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RADIO IS DEAD: The Shadoe Steele Bloodbath · Classic Metal Show

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's up?
• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's Jeremy from the DevWarriors Prada and you're watching CMS TV.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: I have a question before we get too far into anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's been bugging me all week.
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  you said last week you were going to tell me what happened to
• 0:30
  shadow well i was
• 0:31
  going to bring that up i actually was going to bring that up
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  because i had a
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  twitter today yeah there's somebody who said that they've been
• 0:38
  in radio for a long
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  time they really love the whole shadow thing oh nice so so i
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  went back and listened
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  SPEAKER_01: and i forgot i was like damn it we forgot to talk about shadow
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  SPEAKER_02: It's been bugging me all week.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I did not go on Google.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just figured I'd let you tell it because you knew.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what did happen to Shadow?
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  SPEAKER_01: Shadow basically was let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: From Sirius or whatever?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, he actually did a couple of shows on terrestrial radio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he did some part-time things with Sirius XM.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But his background is actually engineering.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's like Scott from KEIM.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that he did in New York City,
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  SPEAKER_01: being that he lives in the eastern part of Pennsylvania...
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  SPEAKER_01: He actually worked in like the NBC control center in like New York and he
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  SPEAKER_01: controlled the satellites.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he more or less directed the satellite traffic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, for radio and whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_01: But he also obviously did disc jockey work.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  And his gig in Pittston,
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  Pennsylvania,
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  which is a borough that was founded in 1863...
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  SPEAKER_01: No, he actually was doing live traffic reports.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, really?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: he was doing traffic reports,
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  and then he had a Saturday show called Live at the Oldies or
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  something like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: He did that show, and get this.
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  SPEAKER_01: He had two radio names.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shadowsteel and another one?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he had another radio name.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what he...
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  SPEAKER_02: This is going to be horrible.
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  SPEAKER_02: I already know it.
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  It's going to be something like,
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  I don't know,
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  I'm a douchebag or something.
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  SPEAKER_01: His radio name to do the traffic report updates.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm serious.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's like, hey, it's me, Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get out of here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  rusty rusty fender rusty fender yep jesus and then he did his
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  regular show and he
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  was marshall stacks right yeah well he uh again he um uh had a
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  couple of gigs in in
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  SPEAKER_01: uh radio
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Rusty Fender exits.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Getting rid of this ad.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rusty Fender exits Intercom Scranton Wilkes-Barre.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
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  Veteran,
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  Scranton,
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  Wilkes-Barre,
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  Pennsylvania traffic reporter,
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  Dale Mikulakczyk.
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  SPEAKER_01: I told you what his name was.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's M-I-K-O-L-A-C-Z-Y-K. Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mikulakczyk.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's his real name?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's his real name.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dale Mikulakczyk.
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  SPEAKER_01: He should have stayed with Shadowsteel or Rusty Fender.
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  Better known on the air as Rusty Fender has exited the intercom
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  cluster in the
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  SPEAKER_01: market,
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  SPEAKER_01: reports the Wilkes-Barre Times leader.
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  Mikhail Oksik,
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  who had been reporting traffic on the station since 1990,
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  was let go on Monday.
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  With market manager Ryan Flynn telling the paper that the
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  company decided to go in
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  a different direction and to retool the position and intends to
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  keep the reports
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  SPEAKER_01: live and local rather than outsourcing them to an outside area company.
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  SPEAKER_02: So he was doing Wooksbury traffic from New York?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, when he was in New York, he was doing the satellite thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then he moved back to Wilkes-Barre.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, you said he'd been there since 1990.
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  SPEAKER_01: At the radio station in Wilkes-Barre.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when he was in New York was in the 2000s, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not positive exactly how that all worked out.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But anyway,
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  Mitsuloxic's weekly Saturday Night Live at the Oldies show
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  under the air name
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  SPEAKER_01: Shadow Steel on Talk Wilk F.
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  SPEAKER_02: Talk Wilk F?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's W-I-L-K-A-F. Has also come to an end.
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  SPEAKER_01: Saying that his time in radio has come to an end.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been in radio for 42 years, starting at the age of 15 at WVIA.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you work for the top cluster, there's nowhere else to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Michael Lock,
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  SPEAKER_01: Vic,
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  SPEAKER_01: however we say his name,
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  told the Times leader that he may return to working for NBC
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  affiliate WBRE TV,
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  where he was an engineer and will continue teaching at Wilkes
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  Wilkes University and
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  SPEAKER_01: producing a TV series.
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  SPEAKER_01: He has pitched to several networks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that'll never happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: He also indicated to the paper that my life,
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  that he may file an age discrimination suit against intercom
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  for the dismissal.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get out of here.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what it says.
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  SPEAKER_02: Self is rusty fender.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: How does that not scream?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm old.
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  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, so you know where he ended up landing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where?
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  SPEAKER_01: KEIF?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Went to work for the Lind company, L-I-N-D-E.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: They do gas and pipeline and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a career change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, not really.
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  SPEAKER_01: No?
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  SPEAKER_01: He put his engineering degree back to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so now he's a commercial engineer?
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  SPEAKER_01: He's an engineer for an energy company, Lind, the Lind company.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's probably making more money than he ever did.
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  SPEAKER_01: You might know him better as Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_01: An oldies music fan know him as Shadow Steel.
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  Nowadays,
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  most of the colleagues at the Lind Corporation just call him
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  Dale.
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  And they know him by his orange hard hat and wide grin rather
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  than his snappy radio voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: He never had a snappy radio voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dale Mikuloksik.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of radio fame for the last 26 years,
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  SPEAKER_01: he went by the pseudonym in Pittston-based WKRZ radio station and other.
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  Last year made the kind of career move fitting for the kid in
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  his late 20s.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: But at 58,
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  SPEAKER_01: Mikloksek finds that fitting as a field engineer for Lind,
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  SPEAKER_01: a pipe building company headquartered in Pittston Township.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  But before you drop your day job for a promising career in the
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  pipeline engineering
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  SPEAKER_01: like this,
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  SPEAKER_01: there is little more to his story,
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  SPEAKER_01: including an extensive background that has nothing to do with media.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mick Loxic went on to the University of Scranton and Duke University.
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  He holds a degree in the aerospace systems engineering and a
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  master's degree in
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  SPEAKER_01: electrical engineering.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's a very educated fella.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sounds like he wasted a lot of time in radio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: it sounded like he went after his passion and,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: went for his passion in radio rather than go for the steady paycheck,
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  SPEAKER_01: maybe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: He started his career as production engineer at WBRE-TV in Wilkes-Barre,
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  SPEAKER_01: overseeing the technical side of the daily news,
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  and soon he was called up to the local affiliate national
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  network NBC in New York
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  SPEAKER_01: City.
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  Nathan in the chat room now he's rusty pipes right this is
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  rusty pipeline rusty
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  pipes at 23 years old the Durea native was controlling NBC's 36
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  satellites orbiting
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  thousands of miles above the surface of the earth so he did
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  this before he became
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  shadow steel and rusty fender okay so he must have did this in
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  the 80s maybe I
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  SPEAKER_02: wonder what his name was before he was shadow steel don't know
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  SPEAKER_02: He had to have a name before Shadow Steel, didn't he?
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  SPEAKER_02: You would think.
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  SPEAKER_01: Using remote controls, Mick Loxic, along with his team, operated...
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  operated thrusters attached to the satellite to keep them
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  inside what he called a
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  SPEAKER_01: 40-mile cubicle mile box or two longitudinal degrees.
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  SPEAKER_01: If the satellite drifted outside of the box,
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  SPEAKER_01: it could result in signal loss for the customers or worse.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look at AOR Rock's got a picture of him in the chat room.
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  SPEAKER_02: There he is, Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_01: There he is, Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_01: Even while he worked in New York City,
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  he found he was spending a lot of cash commuting from his home
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  in the Philadelphia
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  SPEAKER_01: suburb and the high cost of living in the name of an exhilarating career,
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  SPEAKER_01: which was growing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You make huge money in the big city, but you pay it all out, he said.
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  I paid more in taxes every year than my salary ever was at the
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  radio station.
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  SPEAKER_02: What?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what he said.
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  SPEAKER_02: How does that work?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do you pay more in taxes than you earn?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  I think what he was saying is that he paid more in taxes while
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  he lived in New York
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  SPEAKER_01: and did the satellite thing than what he earned doing radio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you follow what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  He had been traveling to the Wyoming Valley every weekend to
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  host his long running,
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  SPEAKER_01: highly rated Saturday night live at the oldies with shadow steel.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I guess he came home every weekend.
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  SPEAKER_01: The highly rated.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what it says.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have the highest rated show in Wilkes-Barre.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: What do you think that is?
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  SPEAKER_02: 75 people?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I attribute it.
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  I compare it to what the classic metal show might have been on
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  Saturday night at WSTB.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was probably the highest rated show in Streetsboro.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had the highest rating of the week every week.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what did that equate to?
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
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  SPEAKER_01: 3,000 people?
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like, I think it was like 7,500 people.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we probably do the same number with this show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Internet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
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  And when KRZ proposed to break new ground in the 1990s with the
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  region's first ever
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  SPEAKER_01: live from the sky traffic reporting,
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  SPEAKER_01: Mikolasik was all in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  So he decided,
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  hey,
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  I want to do traffic reporting and become Rusty Fender.
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  SPEAKER_02: Rusty Fender jumped in the helicopter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: The station sought sponsors to lease aircraft,
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  SPEAKER_01: but in hindsight,
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  SPEAKER_01: the program was doomed from the start,
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  SPEAKER_01: he said.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was even a money loser in those days.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think we used to make $300 in the morning and spend $400 to fly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they had a helicopter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  So they were spending $400 in fuel and taking in $300 worth of
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  morning commercials.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who the fuck pays for the traffic?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly, do people pay?
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  Well,
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  it's like this traffic report is brought to you by the men's
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  warehouse.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but people don't pay premium for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's why it wasn't a high revenue maker.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it failed.
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  I wonder if the stations that nowadays just look at their
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  Google Maps where you can
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  SPEAKER_01: see where there's traffic jams and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, they don't look at their Google Maps.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have the highway cameras now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's true, too.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they can just look and see.
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  Yeah,
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  so they just scan their closed-circuit TVs and see what's going
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  on out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how they do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: The program took a nosedive not long after it started,
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  but Mickaloxic stayed with the station to provide daily traffic
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  updates as Rusty
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  Fender for the next decade and playing host to the Saturday
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  night at the oldies.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was a different name for the show on the oldies.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was Shadow Steel on the oldies.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he was Rusty Fender in the day.
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  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if people couldn't tell the difference.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  it was like the guy that played Superhost on Saturdays and then
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  he did news in the
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  SPEAKER_01: evening on Channel 43.
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  SPEAKER_02: What?
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You didn't know that?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: What was his name?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Look it up.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Superhost.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: Channel 43.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: What was his name?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Superhost.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: His name was Bob something.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Marty Sullivan, that's right.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: He was also a...
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: He was a news broadcaster.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: I did not know.
• 16:33
  Yeah,
• 16:33
  he did the news broadcast,
• 16:35
  and then he did Superhost on the weekend.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there it is.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: In addition to playing Superhost,
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: Sullivan was a longtime floor director and staff announcer for WUAB.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: No shit.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: Also occasionally hosted the prize movie with John Lanigan.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you go.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: Did not know.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it was on WGAR.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, he was the shit.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was all over Cleveland.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: All I ever knew him was was that dumbass super host.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Give me back that shoe.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: So stupid.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was February last year when KRZ's owner,
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Intercom Communications,
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: decided to drop Rusty Fender and the oldie show.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: But it was his radio job that helped the groundwork to his current job.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: What some might perceive as an abysmal circumstance,
• 17:27
  a work schedule that allowed for about three hours of sleep
• 17:30
  each night turned out
• 17:31
  to be the thing that kept him sharp and prepared him for a
• 17:36
  massive career switch.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 17:39
  It's funny how things work out in life because I never wanted
• 17:42
  to teach myself.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: But because that horrible,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: awful,
• 17:46
  terrible shift and split shift I had at the radio station in
• 17:50
  between the window,
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: I had about six hours that I would teach either two,
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: three or four courses at Wilkes-Barre University.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: So he would run from the radio station to the college,
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: teach a class,
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: run back to the radio station.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: You got to know this guy definitely was not married.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: by the way,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: in case anybody was wondering,
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: Rusty Fender still has a very active,
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: not very active,
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: but somewhat active Twitter.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Twitter.com slash Rusty Fender.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: Good to know.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's him.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: It looks like him.
• 18:29
  Teaching a few science and engineering classes each year kept
• 18:32
  him connected with
• 18:33
  the latest technology trends and the promise of work for the
• 18:37
  industry and folks who
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: are already were working in it every day.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: So,
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: let's see here at the Friedland farms,
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: well-paid,
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: let's see at the,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: at the Friedland farms,
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: well pad in Lenox township,
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Susquehanna County.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: I just say that three times.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh,
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: one of the Ms.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Mikuloksik's latest projects he watched,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: intently as the excavator operator,
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: started on a pipe trench,
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: making way for new connections,
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: that,
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: will carry gas away from the well and blah,
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: blah,
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: blah.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, that's where he's at.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he's in Wilkesbury, huh?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: I might have to reach out to him, invite him to the museum.
• 19:27
  How great would that be if I could get a picture of me and
• 19:29
  Rusty Fender together?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good 250-mile drive for him.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 19:35
  but the last tweet that he has is great article on John
• 19:38
  Chedrick and his pinball
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: collection.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, how about that?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well done.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: He's into pinball.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Or at least his buddy is.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: There's my aunt.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: How great would that be?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: So get this now.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the big golf spill?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the pipe that was broken off and polluting the golf?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he contends.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: His contention is he's the one who came up with the solution to fix it.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: He did.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's what he says.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: No wonder they were willing to take Rusty Fender.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:09
  It was late one evening in 2010 when Mikulokzik was sitting on
• 20:14
  the couch watching
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: TV coverage of the BP's Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: His longtime girlfriend, Barba Averza, suggested.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Girlfriend.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Huh?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: Whose girlfriend?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: His.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: He's not gay?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: It says his longtime girlfriend.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: I would have bet any money he was gay.
• 20:36
  Suggested he submit a solution to stop the free-flowing gusher
• 20:40
  of oil a mile below the surface.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: What a life they're living, huh?
• 20:45
  It was his suggestion to use a locking plug on the leaking
• 20:51
  borehole that allowed
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: crews to slow the flow to a trickle enough to apply the static kill,
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: a combination of mud and cement that ultimately stopped the massive leak,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: he said.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: The local headlines gave the man,
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: mostly known for his radio presence,
• 21:09
  a good dose of credibility that his knowledge base spread much
• 21:13
  further than flying
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: satellites and watching traffic trends.
• 21:18
  And his experience with the TV network gave him the confidence
• 21:22
  that he could
• 21:22
  successfully map out hundreds of miles of gas pipe to carry gas
• 21:27
  from the well to
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: the main pipeline.
• 21:30
  So if I'm understanding what you just read there,
• 21:32
  he did get national credit for this idea?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: They said he wrote in.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 21:39
  It just says it was his suggestion to use a locking plug on the
• 21:44
  leaking borehole
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: that allowed the crews to slow the flow to a trickle.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, well, good on him.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what it says.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: He saved the planet.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: He did.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's all about Rusty Fender.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's why we're alive today.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 21:58
  Nothing more is complicated than me flying satellites in the
• 22:02
  Lona sphere orbit for
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: 20 years over the equator,
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: 22.397.5 miles up.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Miklasik said, but this is a complicated business.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 22:19
  Now the former radio man spends his time working side by side
• 22:23
  with guys like
• 22:24
  Corrigan who designed pipelines where each mile depends careful
• 22:29
  consideration,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: uh,
• 22:31
  figuring effects on the environment costs to the company and
• 22:34
  maintaining good gas
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: flow.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's no book to go for this job.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: He said, we're writing it page by page as we go.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hey, good on him.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he's out there directing pipeline operations now.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Shadow Steel laying pipe.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: He is.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: Good on him.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So there is the update on Shadow Steel and Rusty Fender.
• 23:00
  I had no idea that there even was a Rusty Fender,
• 23:03
  let alone a pipe specialist.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: You just didn't do your homework, Mr. Aiken.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: Apparently not.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was not prepared for this interview.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Had we known that years ago, we could have called him rusty.
• 23:16
  Or you could have spouted off 400 facts about underwater gear
• 23:20
  before asking him
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: what his thoughts were on fishing or whatever.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Fishing.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: That would have been too close.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to have something totally unrelated.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: So,
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Shadow,
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: you're well involved with pipelines,
• 23:34
  and pipelines have been around since 1912 when this pipe went
• 23:38
  into the ocean.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: Shadow, what do you think of newsprint?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty good.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Daddy, I've listened to that interview like 10 times.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: So great.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: It was the best.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty funny.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: Do you agree that it's the best interview we've ever done?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: It was definitely one of the more...
• 24:00
  clever ones that we had to plan for well I can't think of
• 24:04
  another one that we ever
• 24:05
  planned for was there I did a little bit of planning right
• 24:10
  after the whole James
• 24:11
  Rivera hit in the bottle thing and we were going to have what's
• 24:16
  his name the
• 24:17
  guitarist for I can't think of it either vicious rumors and he
• 24:22
  ended up being a
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: real yeah and then he ended up being a good friends with us and liking us
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: You planned to sandbag him, and then you didn't.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I did.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: You did, and he just rolled with it or whatever.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: And he was the one who reached out to us and said,
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: hey,
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: can I come on your show and give my side of the story?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: I should get to rebut.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's how that all worked out.
• 24:47
  So,
• 24:48
  uh,
• 24:48
  anyway,
• 24:48
  I got a,
• 24:49
  uh,
• 24:49
  tweet from Jason R that said,
• 24:52
  great job busting balls on radio.
• 24:55
  I worked in radio and love the interview with the 35 year radio
• 24:59
  veteran traffic reporter shadow.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: So nice little tweet there.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thanks.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: Jason R or Jeff R or whatever.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Jason R. Jason R. Thanks a lot.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: You liked it.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: He liked the shadow.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: I like the Shadow, too.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: So there you go.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: There's your update on Shadow Steel.
• 25:18
  I meant to get to that last week,
• 25:19
  but we got so involved with other things,
• 25:22
  it slipped my mind.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Your homework for next week, I want to know what happened to J.D.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Donnelly or whatever his name is.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: We'll find out what happened to him.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: What was his name?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: James Donnelly?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, James Donnelly.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: J.R. Donnelly.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: Madpod.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: Madpod.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: And he really didn't do anything except a couple of...
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: A couple of stingers to lead in and out of the interview.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did those, but apparently he was inventive of something.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because I did rattle off a bunch of facts about J.R. Donnelly as well.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Before asking him if marijuana should be legal.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that.
• 26:04
  yep absolutely so good all right well if you weren't aware of
• 26:09
  it we are live on the
• 26:10
  classic metal show yes and that was in great debate for most of
• 26:13
  the week yeah it
• 26:14
  was you uh you were thinking you were going to be out tonight
• 26:17
  so what what happened
• 26:19
  and what changed we had an event that we were supposed to be at
• 26:22
  and it's not
• 26:23
  happening so okay it was i was supposed to be out till midnight
• 26:27
  doing that six to
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: midnight but
• 26:30
  that got scrubbed and um so i came back to cleveland and you
• 26:35
  know now i'm here and
• 26:36
  you've been been there for the last couple of days in your own
• 26:39
  humble abode yep i
• 26:41
  got here yesterday morning eight o'clock in the morning i ain't
• 26:44
  gonna lie i took a
• 26:45
  day off well good for you i literally laid in bed all day yeah
• 26:50
  i kind of did that
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: today i i i uh got home from work well actually i went out and did the
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: Friday running around just store and grocery store and crap,
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: go to the bank and whatnot.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, you know what?
• 27:06
  I've been eating so healthy the last,
• 27:08
  well,
• 27:09
  the last nine months,
• 27:10
  10 months.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: No garbage in the diet at all.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Just been careful about what I'm eating.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: But for some reason, I was just like craving a hamburger.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:20
  okay last night so i thought you know what i'm gonna go down to
• 27:22
  chili's the playoff
• 27:24
  game between the uh the um toronto blue jays and kansas city
• 27:28
  are playing and it's
• 27:30
  friday got nowhere else to go nothing to do so i went to
• 27:33
  chili's and had this big
• 27:35
  greasy uh hamburger with cheese and bacon and barbecue sauce
• 27:43
  and that's not like
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: you at all no not but i had this like i gotta have this you know
• 27:49
  right sure i went down there and had a burger had some wine
• 27:52
  came home i was uh
• 27:55
  texting with the v of all people what she just text me out of
• 28:00
  the blue you me not
• 28:03
  that i was the only one that got texted no she she texted me
• 28:06
  last night and she
• 28:07
  goes i need to talk to you but i can't talk freely right now
• 28:11
  are you reproaching my
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: friend yeah i'm reproaching yeah
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I text with her until I fell asleep.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I woke up.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: It was like 930 and I stayed in bed till five.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Look at you.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: See, that was me.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: I got home yesterday, 830 in the morning.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: I left.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: I left Pittsburgh at six.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Got home at 830 in the morning.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Just went to bed.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: Stayed in bed until this morning.
• 28:37
  I was just,
• 28:38
  you know,
• 28:38
  it's like watching Netflix and,
• 28:40
  you know,
• 28:41
  just being lazy today.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: That was me yesterday.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: I literally watched all of season eight of NYPD Blue.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I did.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: My life is so exciting.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm almost finished with the Curb Your Enthusiasm series.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: Dude,
• 29:00
  one that you got to check out is this Hand of God on Amazon
• 29:04
  Prime if you haven't
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: checked that out yet.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: I've been finishing up.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in the middle of season seven.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: I got one more season of Curb to go, and I'm done with that.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: It has clay.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's clay from Sons.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: I remember seeing a little promo for that.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it's up your alley.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of fucked up.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's in that weird vein where it's like, wow, this is sort of odd.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: But it's good.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's real good.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'll check it out.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Now, wait a minute.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Was that a movie?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's a 10-part series.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that movie I recommended to you a while back that he was in?
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: He was like a schoolmaster at a girl's school?
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it was all fucked up like that?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a movie.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was kind of fucked up, too.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: This is a series, one of these Amazon series.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: But it's really good.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll watch it.
• 30:01
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  SPEAKER_02: To run a train on the V. What?
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  SPEAKER_02: Somebody's been drinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: I guess.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've got, uh, Philippa Philippa.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's how you say her name.
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  SPEAKER_01: Philippa.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've got the thunder mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thunder mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's who she is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her name is, uh, what did I, what is her name?
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  SPEAKER_02: Her, her, her name, Philippa something or another.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just want to give her credit where credit is due here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Philippa Nassil.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just say Claire Cunningham.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's an easy name in her band, even if it's not her.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the easy name.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a band called Thunder Mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're a Swedish band, an all-girl band, hard rock.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're out promoting their new CD called Road Fever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you like that record?
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  SPEAKER_01: I haven't listened to it enough.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've listened to half of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like it a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's very just straight ahead kind of blues-based rock.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's ACDC with chicks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Philippa Nassil is coming up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we'll check out some Thunder Mother and talk to her and...
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  SPEAKER_01: then we'll get back and we'll start doing our silly shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good to me.
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  Yeah,
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  because I got some updates tonight on some stories we've
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I sent you one this afternoon.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did you get it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, we got stuff to cover.
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  SPEAKER_01: Join us in the chat room, chatandkill.com, Classic Metal Show Live.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into some Thunder Mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: As I said, their new CD is called Road Fever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you can check this out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to play a song here called It's Just a Tease.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I'll talk to Philippa Nassil.
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  SPEAKER_01: So here it is.
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