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- 0:00we're not surprising you we are back two weeks in a row we're not just
- 0:03disappearing again for a few weeks heang on every we already done two we've done
- 0:06two already since we were back have we done two I've lost count yeah this will
- 0:10be three I think oh God welcome to multiple
- 0:15nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:20Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:25Things nerdy the oh God that's a bad thing just
- 0:32how could I forget thought you got out of it well there's been so much in the
- 0:35news guys I mean we've got a lot of followup it's it's like the world has
- 0:40said multiple nerdgasm update us on what's going on
- 0:46there's one article that I am terrified to talk about just one if okay if you're
- 0:51terrified to talk about it it's Afterparty I think it should I'm not
- 0:55going to say anything to the listeners but I'm going to say it's the first
- 0:57article in there and I'm just I'm just scared where this conversation's going to
- 1:01go you should be I'm looking at you Dan I think this
- 1:06is right though I think I think Luke's right this is an Afterparty conversation
- 1:09but that's fine we'll have a good Afterparty today we can tease that and a
- 1:14a little bit of a teaser it's also dick
- 1:16news yeah or is it or is it it was join
- 1:22the after party and find out we've got
- 1:25some followup on kanyer West that I want
- 1:29to mention go on go on um uh well first
- 1:33up I I I noticed that Kanye was sorry ye or yay sorry it's yay was on the uh leex
- 1:40fridman podcast and I was like stop giving him a platform I'd be interested
- 1:44to hear what he has to say I [ __ ] turned it off after 5 minutes he is he's
- 1:48he's not interesting I just cannot listen to him he is such a I don't even
- 1:54know I I know he's they say he's got mental issues right but I just can't
- 1:58even listen to him it's just nonsense yeah nonsense it made me angry
- 2:04listening to him just not pay attention to what was being asked and just talk
- 2:08about how great he is and I turned it off but he's been dropped from Adas this
- 2:13week because of his anti-semitic comments it took a while I think that
- 2:18one of the last ones to drop and they they did me they on the one hand I was
- 2:22like it's a bit on the nose to mention it but on the other hand I was like I
- 2:25guess it's sort of letting people know why it took so long apparently Kanye is
- 2:30a good chunk of added ass's money right they're going to lose a lot
- 2:35of money by doing this and but they but then also like okay did you really have
- 2:40to like mention that in the repeat yeah like I could sort of I could sort of see
- 2:45that they're sort of like like are we going to ride this out and just see
- 2:48because he's making us money so are people still going to go buy his shoes I
- 2:53think like quarter of their revenue comes from the [ __ ] they they do with
- 2:56him like that's a lot of money so so so I think were probably discussions
- 3:02like if we keep him how much are we going to lose and if we cut him how much
- 3:05are we going to lose they were probably the discussions that were being had also
- 3:08they're like maybe he'll apologize and no he's he's doubling down further and
- 3:13okay fine yeah yeah oh always talking about Hitler now okay maybe we let him
- 3:18go maybe before this gets even worse we should do something if it could possibly
- 3:23get worse yeah an Instagram post he put Love Speech I lost $2 billion in one day
- 3:29he's complaining a bit but he's got the money's not who I am the people's who I
- 3:32am but you're making the people you're not making people happy for example
- 3:37insulting abusing his school that he owns his non accredited school which I
- 3:42don't know why anybody would want to send their kids there has shut down not
- 3:47anymore man was it was it part of the
- 3:51church probably what kind of schol he's part of he's he's in that church like a
- 3:57music school or just a school school just a school God that's terrifying the
- 4:03da Academy oh my God this sentence the school was non- accredited classes
- 4:08reportedly included choir and
- 4:12parkour um I take it back this sounds amazing [ __ ] up because one of the
- 4:18things I did hear him say on Lex fridman was that basically all classes should
- 4:21just be engineering and then it should just be recess for the rest of the day
- 4:25because all that matters in the world is engineering Nothing Else Matters
- 4:28especially not history history is a waste of time and we should stop looking
- 4:32at it and then it's in the past man Lex is like well I mean we can learn some
- 4:37stuff from history n no did you know
- 4:41that that Kanye printed a whole bunch of white lives Matter t-shirts and gave
- 4:46them to the homeless yes unfortunately I
- 4:50did he's just CAU in controversy Now isn't he he's just trying to get the
- 4:55biggest reaction he can he doesn't believe any of this he's just trying to
- 4:59the problem is I don't know cuz you listen to him and it I mean it sounds
- 5:02like he does sounds like he's just not look I don't think he believes I don't
- 5:07think he I think he just talks yeah and then people start listening to him when
- 5:12he's going down a r and he goes oh hold on I've got a reaction with this R I'm
- 5:15going to go further down this way cuz people are reacting not not not making
- 5:20not looking at how they're reacting just they're reacting comments back there's there's a
- 5:25bit in this podcast at the start right and it's mainly the thing that made me
- 5:29turn off cuz I was just like this guy's [ __ ] annoying so he's talking about
- 5:33how it's subjective that there are the best writers in the world the people who
- 5:38are the best rid it's subjective it's not objective you know it's it's it's a
- 5:42fact and that obviously the fact is number one is Shakespeare and he starts
- 5:47talking about not he starts talking about you no because half was it some
- 5:51more than 50% of the words we use were written by him so therefore subjectively
- 5:55he is and it's like oh [ __ ] what and then he starts talking about any high
- 6:00school student Shakespeare is the best he Kanye is top 10 writers in the world
- 6:06subjectively so so there Shakespeare Kanye and and eight others
- 6:11yeah and then they're talking about the
- 6:16engineering yeah it goes Shakespeare then Kanye then Timothy yeah yeah uh and
- 6:23then the woman who wrote the Twilight books um and then he goes Lex says
- 6:28something about you know I was talking about his engineering thing and Le says
- 6:31oh you just tell children you're just a when they're born you know you have a
- 6:34series of engineering problems to solve or something like that and then Kanye's
- 6:37like yeah you're a human with engineering solve problems to solve and
- 6:40he starts writing that down and he goes mate I was already top 10 but you've
- 6:44just bumped me right up the list of writers and I like wait he wrote you
- 6:49didn't say that cuz you just stole that line from you just wrote down like and I
- 6:53was I like I said I just turned it off I was like this guy's a [ __ ] with wait so
- 6:57if I read Shakespeare out loud and take notes I'm as good a rider as Shakespeare
- 7:01is that is that how it's just nonsense no it's quite scary and the
- 7:08thing is I've because I've never been a fan of Kanye but this isn't new to me
- 7:12this is what I've seen of human interviews for decades yeah every time
- 7:17we've talked about him there's been elements of this but now he's getting
- 7:19into really dark [ __ ] that's the problem he's always been full of nonsense but
- 7:24now it's like offensive the problem is we're still giving people a lot of money
- 7:29we're giving them these platforms to talk and giving them the audience and
- 7:34we're people the bad thing is is people are agreeing with what he's saying but
- 7:39are they or are they just listening like ju there there have been Kanye's right
- 7:45signs being posted up in places but here's the thing and Matt you touched on
- 7:49this last week I I don't like hip-hop but out of all the hip-hop artists Kanye
- 7:54is kind of not that bad you know what I mean like he's got talent he writes
- 7:58catchy songs yeah yeah I mean it's no accident that he's become a successful
- 8:02musician but just because he's a successful musician and writes you know
- 8:09I ain't saying she's a gold digger Etc yeah doesn't it doesn't mean that we
- 8:14just should listen to whatever else he has to say as well and I don't
- 8:19understand where where those lines got blurred like we have to buy his clothes
- 8:24and listen to his ranting as well as just putting the tunes on he also I
- 8:29can't think of any other artists where that's the case like I mean I love David
- 8:33Bowie but like I don't go well what does David Bowie tell me I have to do with my
- 8:36day-to-day life sure say they can't have opinions the Jews what's one thing got
- 8:42to do with who cares what David Bo thinks about that he wouldn't have
- 8:45commented on it because it's irrelevant none of his business and he knows it ah
- 8:50ah yes I found I found the post up so it's yeah white supremacists who uh say
- 8:54like kaner's right well that doesn't surprise me no and also we don't need to
- 8:59listen to them but also hold on I prefer
- 9:02not to can I can I point out the obvious
- 9:06conflict in in this yeah yeah yeah yeah sure white supremacists are using kanyer
- 9:11West as their spokesman of course that's like that's like solid gold he agrees
- 9:17with them it really it really is for them you know what I mean it's like it's
- 9:20like double haven't you seen like you you've heard the stories where they
- 9:23bring someone who goes like this person is africaner and they agree with us and
- 9:27they try and use them to go freedom of speech is also freedom to
- 9:33just turn off the radio so I just don't happy we don't have freedom of speech in
- 9:38[Laughter] Australia dropped by Adidas and then
- 9:42apparently headed down to the sketches office in LA with a camera crew or or
- 9:48filming something of course presumably to drum up you know some kind of
- 9:52controversy that he was going to sign up with them or something like that so they
- 9:56immediately escorted him from the building and then issued a statement
- 9:59says we are not and will not be working with Kanye or or ye or yay sorry so
- 10:05let's clear this up he didn't tell us he was coming down he just showed up and we
- 10:09kicked him out we did not invite him yeah yeah there's nothing going on here
- 10:14Christ yeah okay here's the thing I I I love
- 10:20talking about Kanye but [ __ ] I hate listening to him and I can't even look
- 10:24at his face now because I just want to punch that smug [ __ ] right in
- 10:29like I said I tried I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt and I couldn't
- 10:33even make it like 5 minutes in cuz I was just like this guy's just an idiot now
- 10:38I've seen him live in concert Kanye West and the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
- 10:45and it was [ __ ] amazing that would be amazing it was [ __ ] but what I think
- 10:51I don't think amazing because of him I don't think amazing because of him
- 10:54though I think just any artist even if we want to give him the total credit for
- 10:59it even if it was his idea and he was the band leader and he he drummed the
- 11:03whole thing up himself Kudos no one's saying he's not a good musician no one
- 11:07is saying that although his behavior on that podcast does make me wonder how
- 11:12much he CLA and the other thing I was going to say is this week he came out
- 11:15and he said he said oh yeah Quenton Tarantino stole the idea for jangu
- 11:19Unchained off me and then quent Tarantino was on Kimmel or something and
- 11:23said well that's not true what happened is he came up with the idea to to do
- 11:28like a kind of slave theme for the gold digger music video and I told him that
- 11:33was a good idea independently of the fact that I had already been making this
- 11:38movie he said there are two separate EV which is also partially a remake of an
- 11:41existing film from the 70s anyway kane west did not give me the
- 11:46idea for Jang and I think we should move on but I think the real problem is is
- 11:51people are listening to him agreeing with like remember when he said he was
- 11:53running for president like in that ill planned out ill thought out nothing he
- 11:59had supporters to leave this country AR I yeah there's there's proof that that
- 12:05can work like when Donald Trump said he was
- 12:10running for president everyone laughed then he became the
- 12:13president well not every not everyone was laughing for the same reasons
- 12:17apparently Dan yeah yeah some people were chuckling monly to themselves great
- 12:22idea yeah here we go speaking of speaking of
- 12:27and of free speech and whatnot M and and Megalania taking taking the spotlight
- 12:33he's taking over Twitter as of Thursday he's the boss whether he wanted to or
- 12:38not and and he has really taken over he's really enjoyed taking it over so
- 12:43there's been some funny mixed news this just today actually right so he's he's
- 12:47fired the CEO and the CTO apparently that's true then today I saw a lot of
- 12:52Articles popping up about how he was just firing everybody and they were
- 12:57interviewing people outside the building people with boxes of stuff saying oh
- 13:01yeah I was a data you know data engineer kind of stuff apparently those people
- 13:07didn't work for Twitter and they were just [ __ ] around
- 13:11so so if you if you like me saw those articles and were like oh that's intense he's firing
- 13:17everybody see see when I B corporate shutdown we should just go and hang
- 13:21outside with boxers and be like uh we've just been fired listen to the multiple
- 13:25nerdgasm podcast available wherever you see I I I heard the story that be fire
- 13:32but I didn't I thought like if you it would have been all management types
- 13:35you're not going to fire you day one he might who knows what the
- 13:41[ __ ] he's going to do but I just thought it was but a smart person you're not
- 13:44hiring the people who are working day one it just goes to show the modern
- 13:48climate of of of media like these guys showed up with boxes started telling
- 13:54everybody oh yeah our whole team's just been laid off and then it became news
- 13:57immediately and then scramble later to to say oh actually
- 14:02that's not true but I forget what it's called too late there are people out
- 14:06there who think that's still true because they won't have seen the
- 14:09retractions yeah and we'll always just think that's true well even if you look
- 14:11at this retraction on this article we've got here the retraction is in the update
- 14:18the title still says yes people were just laid off and that's all people read
- 14:21a lot these days why are you looking at me when you're saying that Luke
- 14:27I there's a there's a there's a I forget what this is called but it's
- 14:32where like one part one they'll write an article one paper and another one will
- 14:36write another and then they start referencing each other and then it's
- 14:39just a so there's a book called trust me lying by Ryan holiday about it it's very
- 14:45interesting he's the guy us to do marketing for American Apparel and he
- 14:49used to pull he used to do [ __ ] like this on purpose mhm cuz yeah and then
- 14:52when you try and actually filter through to find out where it is it's everyone
- 14:56just referencing each other and you don't know where the light actually
- 14:59originated from anymore but everyone's reporting it as fact because well they
- 15:03said it but here's the thing too I mean this kind of stuff this might have been
- 15:06an accident and might have just been people [ __ ] around but there are PR
- 15:10companies out there who are paid to do this kind of stuff on purpose too like I
- 15:13remember I when I was working for the Ad Agency we had this uh one job
- 15:20for I don't know if I'm allowed to say but you've already said American Apparel
- 15:23so it was H&M and uh and they had they had a launch and they literally this PR
- 15:29hired actors to just form a huge que around the block so that media Outlets
- 15:34would go and report that there wases around the blog and there was but they
- 15:38were they were paid to be there it's actually a problem we've got with the
- 15:42internet now is because with a news article espe news you don't want to be
- 15:47you can't really spend the time you wanted to check facts as much anymore
- 15:51because well no I'm talking about if if you wait too long people have already
- 15:54read the article and people aren't going to click on your link one of the things
- 15:58he us as an example in the book is there was a he was hired to do some marketing
- 16:02for for this author who'd written a book that had generally very good reviews but
- 16:06had apparently made some some extreme feminists angry right so what they did
- 16:10was they put a billboard up for the book and then they then also paid somebody to
- 16:15deface the billboard with some feminist propaganda and then they emailed Gawker
- 16:21and and said oh feminist hate this book and then so they all blogs started
- 16:26writing about it and then when it's a slow news day the the actual news in
- 16:30quotes just looks at what you know those websites are saying and pool stuff and
- 16:34that kind of stuff and it became huge news and it was all [ __ ] and it was
- 16:38just like some small very small fist extremist group that really where
- 16:43there's nothing wrong with the book no the whole thing was just marketing like
- 16:47like from the the he came up with the whole thing it was nonsense just because
- 16:50yeah somebody had said oh yeah there's you could always find someone who
- 16:53doesn't like something but you guys know Edward Beres Edward beray um see the s I
- 16:59know he is delicious yeah um there's this great book called the century of
- 17:04the self um which is about how before the 20th century people only had one
- 17:08pair of shoes at a time because why would you need more than one pair of
- 17:11shoes and in the 20th century essentially shoe companies were like we
- 17:15want people to continually buy shoes whether they need them or not and so
- 17:18that's when marketing was invented and there this this this guy who worked on
- 17:22Madison Avenue in New York City and he was kind of credited as being the first
- 17:25PR guy and his thing was always get paid
- 17:29twice for doing each one job for example he got one client that was the bacon
- 17:35people and one client that was the egg people took money from both of them to
- 17:39promote their products and put up a billboard saying the perfect breakfast
- 17:43is bacon and eggs and that to this day is why you eat bacon with eggs that's
- 17:50amazing oh I might go get bacon eggs after this yeah I'm it's it's bloody
- 17:55dinner time what are you talking about that all day
- 18:00breakfast does all day breakfast end like does it get to dinner time they all
- 18:04day breakfast is over anyone if I go to a if I've go to a cafe that says all day
- 18:08breakfast outside and when I get in they go oh that ends at 6 I get [ __ ]
- 18:14lied
- 18:16day 24 hours 24 hours in a
- 18:23day yeah let's move on to some entertainment
- 18:28stuff that'll keep yes Kanye West
- 18:35Entertainer uh I watched the TV show that I want to talk about brief I assume
- 18:39you guys haven't seen it so I don't want to say too much I do want to recommend
- 18:42it however I haven't watched the last episode and I'm curious how it's going
- 18:46to keep this up I'm watching The Watcher on Netflix not to be confused with the
- 18:51Witcher or the Watchmen or the watch the movie from the 2000s it's a TV show yep
- 18:58or 80s classic horror movie Watcher in the woods it's also not that one it's not
- 19:03that either no no it's a new Netflix series came out a couple weeks ago
- 19:07starring Naomi Watts and that guy who
- 19:11plays ant-man's wife's new husband I forget
- 19:17Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby Carnaval okay
- 19:21he's in there anyway uh and it's got uh [ __ ] me it Luke have you got it on
- 19:26screen or did you just [ __ ] know that I've got it on screen at Wikipedia I'm
- 19:30assuming it's this guy Mia phoh is in it which I didn't even I do find it weird
- 19:34that someone's going by the name Bobby is she stop being Bobby when you're an
- 19:38does Mia faroh say anything defamatory about um no Woody Allen Woody Allen
- 19:43during the show I'm surprised doesn't come I've not heard her say I've not
- 19:46heard her say anything else for I'm not sure her character gives a [ __ ] about
- 19:49that so they've got Richard kind it's it's a [ __ ] cool so far so I don't
- 19:56want to say anything F he says so far his one episode from the end he's like
- 19:59but this could all derail man real it could it could though right because
- 20:03don't look up too much Luke because the oh no I'm just looking up cast the
- 20:07premise is there's a family Richard kind there's a family who moves they buy a
- 20:13house they live in New York City and they want to move to out of the city out
- 20:17of the city no they move to New Jersey they buy a a house in New Jersey that
- 20:21they potentially can't afford and the husband kind of does some stuff to to to
- 20:27make to get the money to do it that kind of stuff they move into this house and
- 20:29then strange stuff starts happening the okay the they start getting letters in
- 20:34the mail from someone called The Watcher who's kind of um some creepy letters uh
- 20:41all the characters in it are excentric and interesting in a kind of David Lynch
- 20:47kind of way where they're like I mean the premise was almost a bit David Lynch
- 20:51I'm I'm reminded highway it's less surreal it's more like first season Twin
- 20:56Peaks than later do get first season is the only season I can stand so that's
- 21:01fine by me so far and the thing I like about it is that like it does it gets it
- 21:07gets weirder and weirder and crazier and crazier but it's all like like every
- 21:11person in it you're like it could be them like every single [ __ ] character
- 21:15you're like I don't know who it is like it could be any of these people it's
- 21:20really cool could it be stiffler's mom but the mom is in it yeah it's got she
- 21:26will never be able to play any and and be called by that character's
- 21:30name for the rest of Herer she will always be stiff she is fantastic in this
- 21:36I like everybody is so I'm going to have to watch it cuz I'm really enjoying it
- 21:40and I'm worried is a cast of comedians no it is it is funny but it's
- 21:45not a comedy it's funny in like it's you know twin funny right but it's not a
- 21:50comedy it's that's why it's quite like that I think and the Mystery is good
- 21:56I've I saw it's not got great scores which I don't really care about but it
- 22:01did make me concerned that maybe it's not going to wrap up in a satisfactory
- 22:07manner which will which will be annoying but I've really enjoyed the ride so I
- 22:11recommend it anyway look I think if if they're smart
- 22:15any TV show that goes to Netflix end be able to end in one season cuz you
- 22:20probably not get the second one it's true yeah but yeah I I don't know if it
- 22:25would need one hopefully not man limited series are the best I I like that this
- 22:31is a thing now although they they're not always leaning into it but just here's a
- 22:35story we've told it move on if you liked it give us money and we'll make you a
- 22:39completely new story next year sort of like what they did with American Horror
- 22:42even though I never watched American hor horror but it's the whole like if you
- 22:45like what we've done give us more money we'll we'll come back and we'll make
- 22:48another story for you I totally agree and that's a good example except that in
- 22:52my opinion only the first two two and a half series are even worth watching but
- 22:56yes that's what stranger think were supposed to be well yeah also um what
- 23:01was it um miracle workers I don't know it's got like oh it's a it's a show
- 23:07three seasons every season is very very different it's got um Harry Potter in it
- 23:13okay well that's why I the mighty got the character Harry Potter in it yeah
- 23:17Harry Potter did you guys watch Mighty bo back back in the day only never seen
- 23:23it never seen it of course it's probably on it's probably on Brit box it was a
- 23:26man it was a Nazi man yeah that's right um they completely they started off in a
- 23:33zoo yeah they just completely changed it so they were two same characters yes he
- 23:37does yep uh in the very first episode but the the second season they just ran
- 23:43a flat together and it's a completely different story line involving the two
- 23:45characters the third season yeah they they work in a in like a brick or Brack
- 23:49shop and subjectively the best episode
- 23:53is the the horror of Milky Joe yes very good episode but also the crack Fox is
- 23:59all the way crack Fox is good that's who I was quoting before yeah but I just
- 24:03find them so weird because it's not like their careers sort of went very strange
- 24:07after that that after that you don't think that show was weird you know I
- 24:12think it's we you should see the live show it was based on yeah right but then
- 24:17goes off and does like the great great Great British Bake Off and things like
- 24:22that take the money they offer you that's I loveing I got to say and I do
- 24:27think it it does make me laugh that he's on a show like that now because you
- 24:31watch him even on um he's on big fat quiz you've probably seen that Luke yeah
- 24:36and like there's one where he's on there with Russell Brand and it's just two
- 24:40[ __ ] absurd goth looking dudes making these really really abstract and to me
- 24:46very funny jokes and then he goes on the Great British baking show and he's just
- 24:51wholesome gets paid a billion dollar I have a YouTube channel for
- 24:56you Oz Martin was Martin this is this is
- 25:02unofficial unofficial TV streamer he does some great work and I think we'll
- 25:08have a lot of what you're looking for wink wink just don't
- 25:13send video because no he's very much uh he gets a lot of stuff up and I don't
- 25:18know how but he's also very much like I'm not monetizing I'm just doing this
- 25:22that would be illegal that would be illegal but it's also like he's just
- 25:26trying like and he even says like if if you can watch it in your country watch
- 25:30it in your country and do what you do to support it he's just like a get a half
- 25:34Stu I found it it's Oz Martian but I've found it oh sorry it's all right just
- 25:41thought for the listeners I would clarify it's got big fat quiz it's got
- 25:44uh yep eight out of 10 cats I thought that was nine out of 10 cats no it's
- 25:48eight out of 10 yeah you've been saying couple of weeks and uh no I don't know
- 25:53what you've been watching been watching the wrong
- 25:56show it's got Qi it's got would I lie to you I've got Brit box it just doesn't
- 26:03have everything doesn't have that no but I found this channel is quite great cuz
- 26:07I've got Brit box as well and I tend to go here but then also they've got like
- 26:11eight out of 10 cats as countdown we've also the Australian version of that
- 26:15happening now with one of our friends oh yes M Carlo yeah Carlo is
- 26:20actually doing the Australian version which we call it we don't call it
- 26:23countdown in Australia we call it letters and numbers but they're doing
- 26:26the comedy version of that in Australia I think starts this week or something
- 26:29mhm cool yeah he's he's doing very well
- 26:34he's always done stuff yeah funny guy not that
- 26:39Young's another same age as us I think there another TV actor who's doing okay
- 26:46for himself this week um yes and that's that's TV actor and film Enthusiast
- 26:52Henry Cav star of the screen very much stick to it yeah he knows he knows what
- 26:59what he's good at no he says he says to hell with that
- 27:05I'm going to be in some movies listen to me Superman Henry you're doing
- 27:11great everyone's loving this the work he doing I mean in his defense he's just
- 27:15continuing to do what he's already been doing apparently he's still going to be
- 27:19Superman yeah well apparently it took him a while to convince them that he should still be
- 27:25Superman right there's some other DC news if we if we if we want to really
- 27:30just lean into it I'm excited for
- 27:33excited for this DC news same we'll see honestly I don't I think I'm excited for
- 27:40for who it's about I'm excited for him good on him we're doing that thing again
- 27:45I know oh yeah James gun yes has been
- 27:50appointed co-ceo of DC Studios now so what is different though because yeah
- 27:57and they should have it and if anyone's going to do a good job I think James gun
- 28:00can do it yeah but so he's now sort of in charge of both in a way because he's
- 28:05is all of the MCU Kevin FY who we always say is you know the reason Marvel does
- 28:11he wasn't the CEO of Marvel right no that's true wasn't wasn't he just one of
- 28:15their head writers and executive producer you might be right yeah well I
- 28:19think James gun's not in charge of like all of DC just the film stuff right like
- 28:23I well that's fine yeah yeah Comics or whatever yeah it's DC
- 28:27Studios is there film yeah but uh if I mean if he's going to be the one going
- 28:33that's garbage don't do that yeah I think I think that's what it is I think
- 28:37and I think they're giving him that role to sort of entice him over a little bit
- 28:41more so CU he still going to finish Guardians 3 y I think
- 28:46they that'll come out and then he gets to go over there and I think he's still
- 28:50going to be in a very tough spot because DC aren't going to want to start fresh
- 28:54but they're going to want to get rid of stuff so he's
- 28:58yeah but can you imagine how you do that imagine they do Batman v Superman 2 and
- 29:04it's got Henry caval and [ __ ] Ben Affleck bag but it's [ __ ] great good
- 29:10like that's all I want you know what I mean like I want what's happened already
- 29:15to just be better so I'm happy with them not just he's probably coming on at a
- 29:19very good time because what's going to happen with The Flash movie when they're
- 29:22going to basically get rid of all these characters and recast them all
- 29:28I think that's what's going to happen in Flash mo I think that's the whole idea
- 29:31behind it he s to give them a fresh he's just going to destroy the universe yes and
- 29:36then it's going to disappear up his own ass and the universe the characters the
- 29:41characters that people like and haven't been abusing people so fast he actually
- 29:45went up his own ass what
- 29:50happened but yeah go back in time and strike himself with lightning so they'll
- 29:56keep Harley Quinn but they're going to get rid of Batman they're going to get rid of get
- 30:00rid of Batman what are you doing no no no I meant recast so they going keep
- 30:06yeah they'll keep man he's not the problem that's the he won do it I think he was great he
- 30:12won't do it he got burnt yeah he did yeah um doesn't he still have one that he ow
- 30:19him I think he got away with a Cho in something right yeah okay but what are
- 30:26they doing with Robert is he just Batman now like if there's a new Batman versus
- 30:31Harley Quinn is it going to be Robert Pon versus Marg Robbie like is is that
- 30:38now no cuz they're separate those yeah that would make any sense world together
- 30:43doesn't make any sense but that's what I mean but also like then there's Joker
- 30:47too where lady gagar plays yeah no remember this is why I think this is why
- 30:52they brought James gun in they're confusing it by having this universe
- 30:56over here and then we've also got these other movies that have the same
- 31:00characters what Marvel did well and I and I I think they also tried to do it
- 31:04with Star Wars but it was too little too late by the time they got their hands on
- 31:09that I don't have you been watching Andor no do you know why cuz I don't
- 31:12like Star Wars watch it I I know I know it's good but but I don't like Star Wars
- 31:17don't don't think of it as Star Wars honestly take the Star Wars out of
- 31:22it it's good is he um as evil as you
- 31:28wanted him to be luke not yet okay he's got the kids tied up
- 31:34downstairs but so far that type of
- 31:39evil he's just a he'll sh a lovable Rogue no he's not even lovable okay
- 31:45isn't he he he's he's very much no loves nobody they they've tried unlovable
- 31:52trust me watch it I'm going to go I'm a couple episodes behind I'm going to go
- 31:55watch after this is it finished I'm no it's 12 episodes or something and there
- 32:01another season already and the good thing is is even with this there is a finite timeline
- 32:08they can't just keep dragging this out forever but they can actually sort of
- 32:11show building up yeah okay challenge accepted you can watch it building up to
- 32:17Rogue one y and then that can just be the finale they could just film one episode
- 32:24less than they were going to PO up the money and
- 32:28um speak Rogue one yeah Parts one and
- 32:34two the uh so I after last week's conversation I went and did some
- 32:41research and I did a deep deep dive into
- 32:45Thundercats right did you so so come at me with your questions because
- 32:50Thundercats as it turns out the catell is some
- 32:54fantastic 80s science fiction and um I was thinking about how they just don't
- 32:59make that [ __ ] like this anymore and then I thought maybe this generation
- 33:04thinks uh Clone Wars is that and power to them I just can't watch it because it
- 33:09seems too kidy for me whereas well you yeah exactly they have tried to
- 33:15bring back some of those old shows and I know it is sort of going back to the
- 33:19world but like they've tried it with vulture on stuff which they're not bad
- 33:22but they just don't capture that and I think it's because there wasn't wasn't
- 33:26storytelling was different your kids think about your kids yeah do they have
- 33:31access to one channel or do they have access to thousands of choices social
- 33:36media I know you lock it down but really she has access to I don't lock it down
- 33:40that hard to be honest she only requests one video though and it's it's a video of the
- 33:46count and that's all she wants to watch so but I mean well maybe it's not the
- 33:51best time to ask but in a few years they're going to have like a choice but
- 33:55when we were growing up it's you got home and you could watch
- 33:58has choices but did you know that there were social media influencers for babies
- 34:03there are and she watches them some of them have made a lot of money and then
- 34:08like you look at some of their views that they'll have on YouTube and they've
- 34:11got like 48 million I mean as an adult they're unwatchable but they have tapped into
- 34:18something because my daughter [ __ ] seeks she knows how to work the remote
- 34:23because she knows how to navigate to this what it what is it yeah it's this
- 34:29woman called Miss Rachel it's her favorite and she just sits in her
- 34:32bedroom with her iPhone and just sings kids songs and and then just like picks
- 34:38up toys and goes what's this toy does a little man fit inside and [ __ ] Harper
- 34:43a why are you making it sound sexual it's just the way it's just Dan it's
- 34:47just cuz it's Dan to be honest I was joking that I wanted to do a mashup of
- 34:50just all the things she says that sounds really sexual because she does
- 34:54inadvertently do that um but if I I could just swing this back around to
- 35:00Thundercats cuz that's where he stud res you're very excited to bring it up this
- 35:04is what I'm this is what yes I'm doing my PhD at the moment on Thunder Cat my
- 35:08one topic that I know luk you ask what's it about I'll tell you yes yeah go on
- 35:12Planet full of humanoid cats on the brink of Extinction one just having sex
- 35:19one rocket ship no no the planets on the brink of Extinction yeah yeah that's the planet
- 35:24that's the panda planet that would not
- 35:27attracted to one another um pandas one Starship full of the royal family
- 35:34including a little boy called Lio who was the so screw the servants I'm going
- 35:40to get the rich people out of here um Jud to a [ __ ] up one of them has to come
- 35:45out of stasis and steer the ship manually and by the time they arrive at
- 35:52um third Earth I think they call it um which so they messed up Two Earths
- 35:57before well actually they imply it's a different Earth but if you watch enough
- 36:02Seasons you realize it's one Earth different cycles of time so this is our
- 36:07Earth but thousands of years into the Future Okay so I'll come back to your
- 36:12question from last week Matt about mumra right yes please do um by the time they
- 36:18arrive the guy who's been piling the ship is long dead like he sacrificed
- 36:22himself to to to skeleton steering well do you remember there was old man ghost
- 36:28who used to occasionally show up Ben Kenobi Style no I don't no right that
- 36:33was him though that's him just watch the opening credits right at the end they're
- 36:36like and this ghost so he's also they had the settings wrong on
- 36:43lono's stasis chamber which is why when he came out of it his body has aged but
- 36:48his mind hasn't um which is no sense
- 36:53because I mean you you you mentioned the
- 36:56the sexy semi-clothed uh character of uh
- 37:00cheetah right um who was like a good 20 years older than him the day before and
- 37:06now is like you're hot and it's like still a kid yeah but he's quite hot now
- 37:12so she's she's into that I'm going to take it back I I'm going to I did say
- 37:16that doesn't make sense but it actually does make sense because while his body
- 37:20he hasn't been experiencing anything so yeah yep yep y retract yeah it's it's
- 37:26more like that if you just just didn't pay attention to anything for 20 years
- 37:30you you would have an older body but you'd still have the mind of a child cuz
- 37:33he learning any lessons along the way um mamra is there because it's Earth and
- 37:39there are Egyptian mummies and because of magic he's back to life but the the
- 37:45weird thing about it is you said you'd explain it and that's the
- 37:50explanation Space Magic it'll do but I was expecting more no no no but his
- 37:55motivation okay for starters he is the only human being in the entire show huh
- 38:02but he's a mummy well he was a human being and and preserved and that's but
- 38:08but he represents the entirety of the human race and he objects to our planet
- 38:13being invaded by humanoid cats from another planet so if anything so he's
- 38:18just trying to protect with him a little bit yeah that's right so that's what the
- 38:22conflict is they the the now royal family of this cat planet are like well
- 38:27I guess we live here and we rule here now and mra's like the [ __ ] you
- 38:33do yeah right yeah I'm sort of on hiside like they've ruined their own Planet
- 38:37yeah and now they're here to ruin yours
- 38:40yep yeah H pretty good though like yeah
- 38:45not a bad epically sci-fi yeah I mean if they weren't cats if they were just some
- 38:50random alien it it wouldn't even have that camp angle you know it is odd like
- 38:55the cat angle just I mean it's it's cool but like yeah yeah just a little out
- 39:02there I don't think they'd make that still it's it's it's no
- 39:06Robotech it's literally not Robotech no it's not I would say it's Robotech
- 39:11adjacent though I would say you know when you watch Rober Tech and you get
- 39:15that sense that you're really watching a really wellth thought out Universe this
- 39:20has that same thing uh Robotech is not a really wellth thought out Universe it's
- 39:25a bunch of Japanese television shows together three different yeah yeah yeah
- 39:29if you read the books but they had great writers to make
- 39:33it seem like it was one no no I'm just I'm just being a dick no no if you read
- 39:36all the books it's actually very interesting where they go into more about what
- 39:43oh oh I can't even remember what power say
- 39:46ships that's embarrassing petrol unobtainium it is sort of it is pretty
- 39:53much alanium jez it comes from a spaceship that crashes on kyber Crystal oh
- 40:00yeah but that that evidently the rootch movie is still happening yeah yeah
- 40:06they're going to get to it right after um Ryan Johnson's Trilogy they've just
- 40:10got to wait for the the three Japanese movies they're going to construct it out
- 40:13off to finish shooting and then some American Writers
- 40:17who don't speak a word of Japanese and aren't given transcripts they just going
- 40:20to watch them decide what to pick and choose and then just make up their own
- 40:26story uh H I can still be excited it's going to be terrible movie I know it is
- 40:31it might not but but but they got a new director okay that's that's always a
- 40:36good sign where they completely change direction directors keep resigning well
- 40:40yeah I think it's not I think it's more so they bring someone on and then
- 40:43nothing happens and that person goes guys I need to go and get a job yeah am
- 40:48I am I directing a movie or what am I doing here yeah yeah you've given me the
- 40:53office you haven't actually given me any pay yet though so do you guys know Reese
- 40:58Thomas no not personally did he go to our school evidently he's now attached
- 41:04to it as the Director what did he do um British director producer actor and
- 41:10comedian did last Saturday Night Live a
- 41:15producer give me director seems like a very odd Choice oh uh
- 41:21Hawkeye oh maybe maybe that's okay maybe I'm okay with that that show was good I
- 41:27liked hawkey and he did got to do three episodes so
- 41:32okay all right yeah yeah that was great speak in Hawkeye that gives me a
- 41:37Segway uh I've been playing Marvel snap oh if you guys been playing Marvel
- 41:43Marvel snap it's the latest craze in uh mobile games that I at first poo pooed
- 41:49and then I was like I'll install it and now I'm addicted to it now he's right is
- 41:54it snap as in the card game snap no it is a card game it's like uh it's like a
- 42:00faster less like boring version of like Hearthstone and those kind of games well
- 42:06you collect a deck of cards that are made of Marvel Superheroes they've all
- 42:09got abilities you play around against an actual human online there's three
- 42:15locations you can put your cards and then each location has like a different
- 42:19ability or or something going on with it and then you play cards and the cards do
- 42:24different things and then you and each each each game takes like 2 minutes yeah
- 42:30oh okay I'm I'm worried cuz I've played some of these games in the past before
- 42:34and I've come in too late and then all these people know how to play and are
- 42:39got these really big decks and I go how do I play and I get destroyed but I'm
- 42:43going the name of this episode I think it is no I think well
- 42:49this does I mean I didn't have that experience but it only came out like a
- 42:53week ago I'm over 13 we know
- 43:00that he just texting Kevin spy and Kevin is like oh never mind then
- 43:07yeah wrong number I'm assembling at the moment oh
- 43:13you you install it I'll put that down though new reputation who this I'll play
- 43:17this after it's it's pretty fun um you yeah you play cards out this there the
- 43:22locations are a good little add- on to it and probably other games that do this
- 43:27I've not really played them much though so I I'm enjoying it well yeah it's the
- 43:30type of thing you have to constantly keep little updates con happening all
- 43:34the time so the whales no they want the whales looks pretty good but I won't
- 43:40play it but it does look pretty good it's fine and it's like I said the games
- 43:43are quick so you can kind of just you know smash a little game out like it's
- 43:47not like why are you pooping yeah absolutely you can do a few you play a
- 43:51few rounds while you're pooping and it makes I I don't know whe they they're
- 43:56probably doing something to to make it they make me feel like I'm good at it
- 44:01kind of thing either either I'm doing well or they're just really they've got
- 44:05some algorithm that's matching me up with people in a way
- 44:09where yeah like it just makes me feel like I'm doing well you know what I mean
- 44:14or maybe this is a game for kids and you're an adult and you're just you're
- 44:19just kids cuz there's things you got to do like there's there's so like there's
- 44:23a location where as soon as you play a card you can only have four cards at any
- 44:27given location there's one location where you play a card and it will
- 44:31replicate it it'll fill the whole thing up with copies of that card which is
- 44:35very powerful um but if you play the wrong card obviously you waste it
- 44:40because you you it could have had better potential but there's also cards like
- 44:44Iron Fist that says play this card then the next card you play will be moved
- 44:49after you play it so you can do weird [ __ ] like you play Iron Fist then you
- 44:53play a card on the the duplicating one it's called bar Sinister and then it'll
- 45:00you play a card that card will get shuffled to the next location but then
- 45:04you get a bunch of duplicates of it and you do this crazy [ __ ] like it's not I
- 45:07don't like it's it's more complicated than you would think for just hurry up
- 45:11and sponsor Marvel snap yeah it's not a kids game I guess is what I'm saying
- 45:16there's more to it you know what suddenly hit me that is a thing that I
- 45:22want right you remember Pokémon go I'm sure it probably still exist but I
- 45:26played it for play it every now and again I played it for a weekend thought
- 45:28it was really really fun but just couldn't I mean I don't care about
- 45:32Pokémon um you know what they should make they should do a Lovecraft version
- 45:38of that imagine if it was exactly Pokémon go but it was like there's a
- 45:44shogo down at the [ __ ] docks near you I I they've tried other versions and
- 45:50while it does sound great love CRA it won't take off well look it's HP love cat
- 45:57they've tried don't say his name don't say his name they've tried it they've
- 46:01tried it with um the name is password to get to the next level wow don't type it
- 46:06in you need to make a decision don't you yeah they did a Harry Potter one which
- 46:10is shut down they did the origin one shut down I think there was a
- 46:14Ghostbusters one that sort of came and went very quickly I think the big the
- 46:19big problem you've got with a lot of them is there's not a lot more you can
- 46:21introduce whereas what they're doing Pokémon it's you start off with the
- 46:24original 152 and then hey we're going to release these ones and we're going to
- 46:28release so people back to Pokémon like it was catch them there's a reason
- 46:35behind it like when you've got like Harry Potter well what do you do what do
- 46:38you cat what you what what broomsticks kids from the school you had to sort of
- 46:43walk around and sort of fight PE fight things and then you get cards and
- 46:47characters it's yeah my favorite part of the uh Pokémon go phenomenon was that
- 46:51subreddit where people would try to get Pokémon go AR characters onto
- 46:59nudity so be like look I'm doing my girlfriend from behind and there's a
- 47:03squirtle on her back it's Magikarp I'm [ __ ] Magikarp like we always wanted
- 47:10guys come live your fantasies through
- 47:16me don't click that link at work I played something quite good this week
- 47:21for the 4 and a half minutes they allowed me to play it I played the demo
- 47:25of the Nintendo switch version of Resident Evil Village it's good that's
- 47:31one with a tall vampire lady is it not not in the 4 and a half minutes I was
- 47:35allowed to play of it but yes is it was the demo the actual start of the game or
- 47:40does it like Plum I don't believe so I believe well you tell me I was in a
- 47:44castle looking for my daughter is that the start of the game no not yet no and
- 47:49uh I think this was the original demo that you could download for like
- 47:53PlayStation when it was about to launch on that and they' just reused that um
- 47:59this isn't even play to the end of the level this is literally a timed demo so
- 48:04I was taking my my I really taken my time with it and then it was like your
- 48:08Demo's over but sorry mate it played better than I was expecting for stars
- 48:14it's Cloud great game it's cloudbased
- 48:17which annoys me um yeah what meaning so
- 48:22you can't play it offline oh and you don't you don't download the
- 48:27whole game the download takes 2 minutes
- 48:32really of these no the the full game will be cloud-based as well it hasn't
- 48:36been released yet that's fascinating it gets released this week or next week but
- 48:41uh it streams it to the console correct huh fascinating um which I thought was
- 48:47going to be problematic in terms of gaml but we're fine now yeah it was
- 48:52absolutely fine and in fact cuz I've I've found a couple of the higher end
- 48:56games that I've tried to play well no just Arc to be honest ran really poorly
- 49:02and I thought oh okay maybe I need to kind of cap my expectations to certain
- 49:06types of games but this runs just fine this I mean and I think the key might
- 49:12have been that I had not played this on the Xbox cuz I think perhaps if I played
- 49:15this on the Xbox first I would notice all the down resing but yeah smaller
- 49:19screen helps too if you're only playing small screen oh yeah I play it hand
- 49:25Cloud games and stuff I still prefer install stuff to the Xbox or the PC just
- 49:29because it's it's better running from there um cuz you you won't get S
- 49:34sometimes you get like little glitches and things like that when stream but
- 49:37it's it's it's fine these days as long as you got decent
- 49:41internet which Matt does so I do I still play PC games on GeForce
- 49:48now oh actually Dan you will have good internet suit cuz I think with new
- 49:52houses all new houses get built fiber to the premise yeah there you go yeah and
- 49:56I'm running I'm on [ __ ] hotel Wi-Fi at the moment and it still is okay so
- 50:02yeah I'm I'm really I'm really excited Village is excellent and I think
- 50:07a new DLC just came out for it actually you reminded me but but that yeah that
- 50:10game is very I mean even this little demo was creepy as [ __ ] yeah and it
- 50:15changes tone too because you've got a bunch of bad like there's a kind of a
- 50:20set of bad guys and each one has kind of a slightly different theme so I see nice
- 50:24nice nice nice nice yeah so I'm all in I'm all in played that um and then I
- 50:29just played through the entirety of the original Doom which is just never not
- 50:33going to be a good game yeah like just every now and again I'll be like [ __ ] it
- 50:37I'm play through Doom you know I can only really play through the first three
- 50:40levels for some reason I think that's because I had a sh we copy of it when I
- 50:44was growing up and that's all I played yeah that's what you're nostalgic for no
- 50:48I'm I'm the same but uh um it does get gets quite challenging I game I played
- 50:55at p in their PC retro area that brought
- 50:58back memories was alycat oh my God what
- 51:03yes God that was fun that's
- 51:08it and yeah cuz I I I was waiting to play other people play just not knowing
- 51:13what they're doing and then I jump down and all comes back and I'm Wait playing
- 51:18and is it like a remake of it no no they just had an old they had old computer
- 51:23sitting up in the Retro area but it was just game is not if you don't know what
- 51:27the [ __ ] you're supposed to do no because it's not like games today where
- 51:31it's oh you got to a new area let me explain what you meant to do yeah I
- 51:34don't even remember it's a room stuff of some sort So you you're
- 51:39in an alley and then you jump into windows and then some windows you need
- 51:42to collect the mice from cheese or you need to knock a fish bowl over or you
- 51:47need to drink all the do the water from the dogs bowls like it's all different
- 51:51but it doesn't tell you what you need to do when you get in there no you just
- 51:54figure it out yeah I'm going to get a huge cheese with a whole lot of mice
- 51:59in the hole yes that's right yeah and they pop up in the holes you have to run
- 52:02up and get them mhm yeah what a great game God that was fun that I have spent
- 52:07hundreds of hours on yeah and it's not like there's an end
- 52:12to it it's just that you just keep playing and gets harder until you die
- 52:16and then you don't go again speaking of great games I finished I finished secret
- 52:22uh return to Monkey Island it was great oh and yeah yeah no I recommend it it's
- 52:27great it was lovely to pop back into that world I really enjoyed it I've only
- 52:33played literally 2 minutes of it just to pop it on and have a look and it was it
- 52:37was lovely um yeah it's great I you can spoil I don't mind but do you stay as a
- 52:42kid or do you grow up no no I assume you went back into the
- 52:48fantasy at some stage uh okay not not a fantasy no that
- 52:54that that whole being a kid thing plays out in it pretty neat way really okay
- 52:58nice all right cool and uh yeah the game literally made me laugh out loud in
- 53:02Parts just the writing was quite funny like there's a bit it's not a spoiler as
- 53:07such there's a bit where you encounter an old character from the old ones which
- 53:12is nice and then you're trapped somewhere and then you get out and then
- 53:16there's a the premise of it is that guy brush is telling a story to somebody and
- 53:20then that per so you you says You Escape and you go move on then the person it
- 53:24cuts back out to the the story being told and the person goes well hang on
- 53:27what happened to the other guy and garish is like sorry what that's not
- 53:32part of this story anyway and it's just really well
- 53:37done I cannot wait to play it just got to wait until it comes
- 53:41to somewhere with when it comes to Microsoft essentially I don't care if it
- 53:45comes to PC or Xbox just come to Microsoft it's on PC it's not on
- 53:49Microsoft for [ __ ] sake I need the
- 53:54achievements um of 100% of the other two games we're going to 100% this one um so
- 54:00in other games news Well we can get into this bayoneta voice actor drama cuz this
- 54:05just story just keeps growing yeah I don't know what to think about this and
- 54:09I don't want to I'm confused now yeah I don't want to assume anything
- 54:14either way what what happened is bayetta 3's I think has just come out and a
- 54:20couple weeks ago or or or fairly recently the voice actress Helena who
- 54:26played the main character in the original two games said on
- 54:31Twitter uh they offered me [ __ ] all $4,000 to come back and the sprting even
- 54:38actively called for people to Bo boycott the game she said they only offered to
- 54:42pay me four grand so I said no and so I think everyone should boycott the game
- 54:45because that's disgusting and then she said Jennifer hail's apparently taken
- 54:48over and then kind of I don't know exactly what she said but then people
- 54:53started having to go at Jennifer hail and jennif Hal's whoa whoa whoa yeah she
- 54:57was like who I don't know anything about this [ __ ] right I'm just got hired to do
- 55:00a game and she said also please bear in mind a lot of people worked on this game
- 55:05very hard please don't boycott it on because of whatever this is right yeah
- 55:10you know apologies whatever and then the creator of the game who's
- 55:16notoriously uh grumpy Japanese guy he tweeted once he said if you don't
- 55:22tweet me in Japanese I will block you I do not speak any langues other than
- 55:27he goes refer to my rules and his rules are basically if you if you do anything
- 55:30to piss him off or tweet him not in Japanese he just Blocks he's just he
- 55:34just does not give a [ __ ] taking a [ __ ] yeah and he basically said lies and uh
- 55:40now it's come out that she was offered
- 55:44$115,000 which is actually apparently like I said I'm I'm going go on off what
- 55:48people are saying for the amount of days of work is quite good it's a little bit
- 55:54above industry standards supposedly please correct me if I'm wrong but she
- 55:59thinks this franchise is worth so much money that she should have gotten more
- 56:03and then they basically just said nah all right fine we'll get someone else
- 56:07this is our budget for this part of the process and then they came back and
- 56:10offered her a smaller amount for five sessions to do a cameo they said do you
- 56:17still want to be in it in any capacity and that's what she talking about so now
- 56:20everybody that was the four grand so now everyone's turned on her cuz they were
- 56:25like you [ __ ] lied you got us all worked up into a froth and got us mad at
- 56:29this company and now it turns out you weren't telling the truth yeah
- 56:34so so I don't know what to think and yeah I don't know I can kind of see
- 56:39where she's coming from in terms of like when you're angry then when you tell the
- 56:44story of why you're angry you leave out the parts that don't make you angry
- 56:47because they're not what's making you angry right now unforunately you've
- 56:49given everybody the wrong impression yeah if you're doing it on a public
- 56:53platform then they're going to find out the bits that you left out of that story
- 56:57what it sort of sounds like to me and I may be wrong but it sounds like they
- 57:00offered her money and she went no you want me back for a third one I'm going
- 57:04to hold out for a bit more money and you can't make the game without me and then
- 57:08they called her Bluff and just went somewhere else then she's gone oh [ __ ]
- 57:12then still did the right thing by her and came back and went would you take a
- 57:16little bit of money a lot less work and she and that made him even more
- 57:20angry and cuz the other thing is people are saying that she's saying something
- 57:25like I forget the number the figure that she keeps throwing out there she's
- 57:27saying it's like a uh multi-million dollar I forget the
- 57:32figure I don't want to quote because I don't remember she's saying it's the the
- 57:36franchise makes this much money and people saying I don't think it does
- 57:39people saying it doesn't she just pulled some numbers off this steam website that
- 57:44says something about it's something about like numbers of sales or whatever
- 57:47anyway I don't know the specifics but apparently the numbers she thrown around
- 57:50are not accurate so perhaps she's gotten either she's gotten some bad advice from
- 57:55her agent at the time said you can get more or she's
- 57:59just she's just taken it upon herself to say you can pay me more than that and
- 58:03they like yeah I've no I've played the first two and they're not bad games but
- 58:08they're not they're not it's not a triaa title it's flying off the shelf and look
- 58:13and this is not evidence of anything really but the fact that this woman is
- 58:18not a voice actor generally speaking she's done this and and not much else
- 58:24Jennifer hail is a very in demand voice actor for video games the fact that we
- 58:30love Jennifer hail but the fact that they got Jennifer hail to do it tells me
- 58:35the figure can't have been that bad yeah they must have had some decent money
- 58:40either that or she doesn't have some reason they just didn't want this woman to do
- 58:45it I think it may have just been pissed off that they they think they offered
- 58:49her a decent amount and then that she th threw it back in their faces maybe her
- 58:52expectations were were a little I think either her expectations were were not
- 58:57aligned with reality or they didn't want her to do it for some reason do we know
- 59:02if Jennifer hail got paid the same amount no because she's a professional
- 59:07and she hasn't had any of this garbage yeah and not only that even if she did
- 59:12end up getting paid more it's like if this woman was trying to bargain and
- 59:15they're like well we're not going to pay you 20 grand and then she's like well
- 59:19I'm out of here and they're like well we want a professional now we'll get
- 59:21Jennifer hail maybe we will pay her the 20 grand yeah she's worth know that
- 59:26she's going to be yeah exactly right she's a professional we know what we're
- 59:29going to get the thing is has brought the reason why people jumped onto this
- 59:33so quickly is there is a problem with voice actors getting screwed over a lot
- 59:39yeah voice actors composers this stuff always comes up because it's not value
- 59:43well you even look at and then you even look at like some games and um companies
- 59:47they'll just go oh we're just going to get like our staff just the voice and
- 59:50then that's just part of your job now not we're not going to have to pay you
- 59:53extra and so yeah voice actors talking about gearbox you can name names gearbox
- 59:59Roost named them before yeah yeah gearbox and rooster teeth do both the
- 1:00:03same yeah you you work here so you can just voice this for us and then oh you
- 1:00:06want to get paid for it nah I guess on that note though I don't want to poo poo them but
- 1:00:11gearbox I think possibly I could be wrong on this and please don't take this
- 1:00:15the wrong way but I think in a in a in a way they're a unique case because I
- 1:00:20think it would be fun to work at qbox and to do a voice in the game and I know
- 1:00:24probably I should get paid more but I feel like i' probably do it anyway yeah
- 1:00:29he' offer to do it but then it's border that's what start think the atere there
- 1:00:34is different to what you you know we're talking about this in a very she's a
- 1:00:37voice actor is very serious I think the atmosphere at gearbox in that scenario
- 1:00:42is not yeah it doesn't really apply you know but I think that it also depends
- 1:00:47what level of employer you are like I think
- 1:00:51uh like like the the Nazi voices in wolfen
- 1:00:56are just the ID guys yeah talking a microphone right yeah exactly
- 1:01:03my so like but they're not going to be like well since I've recorded this I'm
- 1:01:06just going to take a little bit of extra money but then again they're doing a
- 1:01:09profit share anyway if you were just the receptionist and they came down and went
- 1:01:14can you come and do a voiceover for me for no extra cash maybe that's different
- 1:01:18I I think the problem is the first time it's fun and then then the second time
- 1:01:23third time that's when you go what what PA well I think cuz the problem with the
- 1:01:28problem with Borderlands was that and again I could be wrong about this but I
- 1:01:31think the guy was doing clap trap was just expected that he would do clap trap
- 1:01:34in addition to his normal duties now but clap trap became like a main [ __ ]
- 1:01:38character so it was like a little different yeah hold on yeah it's this is
- 1:01:42me doing an hour or two you but if I was working as a programmer at gearbox and
- 1:01:46Randy pitchf was like a funny voice and i' be like I can do tons of funny Voices
- 1:01:51Randy I'll do whatever voice you want
- 1:01:57yeah and everyone does but yeah I just think it's the second and third
- 1:02:02time Matt you know where you can do whatever you want um I can do all the
- 1:02:07funny voices I want but not get paid any
- 1:02:11money this podcast the I've been doing funny voices and not getting paid for it for
- 1:02:18years some of them in the after party some of them I'm not allowed to do
- 1:02:22anymore but if you go listen old episodes you'll hear them
- 1:02:26not the old old episodes though no no no some of the some of the voices I used to
- 1:02:30do are scrubed at this point there's going to be people out
- 1:02:35there who have all of them I don't even have all of them do you know what I wish
- 1:02:41right and I know this is very selfish cuz I the only reason I want someone
- 1:02:44else to do this is because I can't be bothered is I was thinking the other day
- 1:02:46it would be neat if we had like a Wiki for all of our episodes so we could just
- 1:02:51look up stuff cuz I was thinking it would be good to do compilations of
- 1:02:54things but I'm [ __ ] lazy [ __ ] that yeah so I almost I just wish we had an
- 1:02:59audience that was big enough and willing enough to
- 1:03:05just much like the staff of gearbox to you just do work for free I always think
- 1:03:11uh yeah exactly I always think it could happen while editing each episode if
- 1:03:15there were particularly funny bits you just drag them into a bin but even that
- 1:03:19sometimes you a lot of extra yeah and that too that too yeah or even just I
- 1:03:23was thinking what if if we just had a Wiki that just told me what episodes did
- 1:03:27we have geek of the week and who was who was it that was the thing I was thinking
- 1:03:31of was who was the geek of the week in every episode yeah I don't remember who
- 1:03:36was geek of the week last week well that's and then I was like that's an
- 1:03:38insurmountable t i remember who wasn't Angela
- 1:03:42Lansbury so anyway listen if you for some reason want to volunteer to do this
- 1:03:48yeah I would love it and if not 300 episodes go listen to the Afterparty and
- 1:03:54we can tell you it's funny because we've actually already recorded it because we
- 1:03:57started recording it for this episode and then realized we couldn't talk about
- 1:04:00that in the main episode so we're going to move to the after
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