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- Cody: Everyone, welcome back to another edition of AGT time. It's Glitter, Glitter. And I I'm so glad that we had those guys on because we have here tonight with us the great Minnesota Ryan. It's great to have you back. It's been a minute since we've talked. Welcome to season twenty-one. Minnesota Ryan: No It is great great to be back. And what better reoc like reappearance than Glitter as my welcoming back onto this season. representing the Midwest proud are those boys. We'll talk about later. but no, I'm excited to be back. It has been some time since I've been able to sit and process AGT and run through this stuff and have these conversations. So I'm excited. Thanks for having me back on. Cody: Yeah, it's great to have you here while while Jay's still on vacation for I think I think one this is the last week he's on vacation. I think Jay'll be back next week. but it's great to have you here. We we're we're gonna we're gonna get into some Ryan stuff later on. so we're gonna obviously recap the auditions five, season twenty one, auditions five episode. We're gonna talk little Ryan analytics later on. Minnesota Ryan: yeah. Cody: and then we have some listener questions that we're gonna get to as well. Ryan, what do you what have you been up to these the last few months since we've last talked? Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, so the biggest biggest change is I've officially hit thirty, in my life and so I'm trying to plan out what the next I appreciate that. I I think I should celebrate that. but either way, it just trying to figure out kind of what my life looks like from this point on. But the biggest thing is I'm progressing in my physician assistant career, so now I'm comfortable enough to not only do my job, but I'm actually training students now. So I'm now precepting other PA students and stuff like that. I'm taking on I'm kinda growing an education role. Cody: It's awesome. Minnesota Ryan: to my job. So there's a possibility in the next few years that I'll be kind of re-entering the education scene, maybe furthering my own education or even teaching at some local universities. So that's kind of been the biggest change, I guess, for me. I still do a lot of stuff we talked about, so I still like have the podcast vitally stable. I still do a little bit of mentorship here and there. But I may be taking a transition in my life to those worlds. As well as like I still do some YouTube here and there, but it's a little bit more few and far between as I try and figure out where my life's going in the future. But pretty much work. Girl in my life, excited to be here. Back backyard boys, backyard boys. Yes, no, I'd love to be the backstreet boys. I'd be rich right now. but no, I we're still doing our thing, but obviously we we all have different lives, so it's kind of like we're trying to balance when we can record and when we can just move on in our lives. And you know, it's we'll produce content. There'll be stuff in the future, but it's kind of like a mini halt and reassess situation for us right now. Cody: You and the you and the Backstreet Boys still together? Sorry. That that's yeah Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that happens. Yeah. so of course that kinda leads us into you can find us on our socials at AGT Time Pod. You can email us AGT timepod at gmail dot com. And of course we got the brand new website out there, AGT timepod dot com. it's got it's got the commenters leaderboard out there now. It's got the AGT Hall of Fame, Ryan. If you checked out the the new website. Minnesota Ryan: I can't say that I have yet, but that'll be the literal first thing that I'm doing after we get off this recording. I'm gonna go because I did not know that it had all that stuff up, so I will be there immediately after this. Cody: yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we've got the Commenter's Leaderboard, the whole thing, it's out there. we've got the AGT Hall of Fame. We've got a blog. Commenters been blogging. Mass Senior Homie over in the UK, he's been blogging a little bit too. So it's it's growing. It's it's growing. We got more to come, so keep an eye out for it. but we're gonna here to recap again season twenty one, auditions five. I think we only have two more audition episodes. Minnesota Ryan: Awesome. Cody: to go after this and then maybe another season recap or a highlight episode, something like that along the way. just so you guys don't have to be tortured this week, Ryan has volunteered to do the recaps. 'cause you've all heard me do the recaps and it's it's not a pleasant thing. So Ryan's Ryan's been kind enough to do the recap. So he's gonna play the role of Jay tonight. So Minnesota Ryan: Do my best. Cody: Yeah, so Ryan, we can if there's anything else we don't talk about, we can or we can just kinda get into the episode. Minnesota Ryan: I I think we got a pretty meaty episode here with only the recap but then also the my statistics here at the end, so I think it's just fine if we get j going right away here. I well perfect. Well first stay start off at the beginning here. I am no Jay. I will I will do my best to simulate that and throw a little bit of Ryan Flair on there, but please give me some slack as I'm also learning how to do this role because Jay is just one of the best at doing this. but episode five. we kinda have Cody: Let's let's do it, man. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: I would say we have some of the most acts this night that have actually gone through and been picked guests by the judges. So we actually have quite a few acts to talk about that are worth our time to talk about. But the night starts off with our Barrio Dance Factory group from Madison, Wisconsin. they kind of do a little bit explanation of their past, but at the same time Simon is having like constant microphone troubles while they're trying to explain kind of who they are, where they're from. so it's a little challenging to kind of know exactly what they are, but the biggest thing they say is they're a dance crew from Wisconsin. they're named Barrio, but they really don't have a whole lot of like like a Hispanic part of their dance. They're actually an urban dance crew. Cody: Yeah. Right. I was really confused by that. Madison I was like, how much barrio is there in Madison, Wisconsin? Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Almost almost none. And I I looked up their website 'cause I wanted to see if they did aspects of like Hispanic dance or whatever. And they do none. It's just urban dance and they're they help other dancers grow. They do different age ranges. They kinda have more of like an elite class and then a younger class. Think of them like a kinda like a Brent Street, but not as big as Brent Street was, where they were more international and what they do. I I do. We will be talking about Brent Street a little later. and But for right now we'll get into this. So Cody: Yeah. Well we know how much you love Brent Street. okay. Minnesota Ryan: I'm gonna do my best to kind describe their dance. they come up and say they're gonna do something we've never seen before, and then immediately do something that we've seen many times on the show. they they kind of dance to three different songs that are spliced together. They do Another One Bites the Dust, they do like Bicycle, they do, you know, Don't Stop Me Now. They're like kind of old classics. They're wearing this kind of leather jacket combo where they have this almost red and yellow leather jackets with white pants. So they're coordinated. They dance well. There's nothing wrong with with the dance. But it it as they're doing it, all they're really doing is just dancing in rhythm to these older songs, as well as doing occasional flip here and there, an occasional lift in the middle of the crowd. I think at one point in time, like, I don't know, the choreographer rides through on a bicycle, does almost nothing with it. He just kind of rides through the center of the stage through their dance crew on a bicycle while they're dancing a bicycle. He he does lip sync. It's impressive to use your mouth while you ride a bike. but it I kind of say let's just say like I Cody: He lip synks, Ryan. He lip synks to the song. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: didn't even find the time to necessarily dance moves because it really isn't anything different than we've seen on ADT. It is a coordinated dance crew. They they look good. They obviously have done this before. It's it's exactly what you'd expect, but there isn't any major moment in the dance that l pops out as like, yeah, that was their big moment. On top of the fact the songs they chose don't really have these big accents, kind of like we just brought up Brent Street, right? Brent Street was all about big moments, big kind of drama, stuff like that. You don't really get any of that out of this dance crew. They're just a very solid dance crew. I I don't know what your kind of opinion on it, but that's just how I saw them as I was watching. Cody: Yes. Yeah. No, I saw the exact same thing. It's a typical dance crew that we've seen a lot of. Nothing stuck out at me that was spectacular. I think those were all queen songs, am I right? I Yeah. Yeah, but they yeah, they're classic old style, just rock songs they danced to. They started out with three or four of and then a whole group of came out and Mel B was like, I knew there'd be more of them Like Minnesota Ryan: I they may have been. I definitely two of them were. definitely two of them were. Cody: Of course you did, Mel B. Yeah, of course you did. Y yeah. So no, it's it was not a very great way to start off the episode because there was nothing spectacular. You're expecting them to do something V unbeatable or like you say, Brent Street, one of those type crews and it was just run of the mill, straight down the middle type of dance crew. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, 'cause four of them wouldn't have been as exciting. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah, totally agree. and that's I our comments kind of definitely match a lot of the judges' comments too. Like Mel liked their energy and I will agree, their energy was very solid. They had a lot of they were really into it when they were doing it, even after they were crying after they stopped performing. Like they clearly gave it everything they had and what the chore choreography gave them to do. but really it was just a good dance crew and they had decent energy and there was nothing else more to it. Mel particularly liked them more than the other judges. She talked a lot more about their energy but overall the judges kinda gave general subpar comments on just wanted a little more, wanted to see something new, didn't really see anything new. and at the end of it it ended up being three yeses and one no, how we gave the no on there. But w as a trend you're gonna see tonight, and honestly a trend on this season of AGT, there's a lot of like three yes and one no, like begrudging let them through kind of acts this year. This was another one of those that we may or may not see in the live show. Yeah. Cody: Yeah, I I'm glad we've made this turn the last couple of years with Mel Mel B coming back. We now have this 'cause the let's see, so like seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, it was all four yeses, four yeses, four yeses, or four noes. It was a lot of agreement amongst the judges. And so Mel B coming back added in that extra no, which I'm I'm okay with. It gives it okay, is it a possibility they may not go through. So Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Yeah. The one thing I'll say is we don't have a lot of major big dance crews this year. there's have been like what two, two or three. So there is a chance we see this crew again in the actual live show performances. They're they're probably destined to be a quarter final and then out type of act if we do. but we may or may not see them again. But they weren't bad, just weren't great, as we kinda said, just not maybe the best way to start off the night with the energy. Anything else you want to say on on Barrio here? Yeah. yes. Cody: so real quick, Madison, Wisconsin demographics. seventy three percent white, eight point seven percent Hispanic. So they there's a popul there's a population there, yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: really? Okay. Huh. That is a little bit Course I don't know. I d I wish I would have looked a little closer at the actual dance crew and seen how many of them were actually Hispanic, or was it the same kind of like variantation there? But like, yes, that that sounds like Wisconsin. Okay. Well, let's move on here to Mr. Godfrey, who who actually is gonna get a lot of conversation here because he's actually worth a little bit of our time to talk about. So Godfrey is a Cody: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: clown like like figure who has this tiny little muppet style head with a nose made out of a balloon and as well as a colorful checkered shirt and then a green and white striped pants with suspenders. He he literally looks like like a variation if you combine a clown with like a Muppet creature and put it on the top, that's pretty much what he looks like. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. My biggest question was like where's Ernie? Cause this looked like like a bird. This look like a giant bird. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yes. Yes. It really a hundred percent. Absolutely. Mr. Godfrey never talks. he also has arms that are clearly not real arms. He's def they're more like, you know, like your extended, like, you know, stilt style arms that he has. and his entire act is going to be catching a large red balloon. He does variations of catching this balloon. he starts very, very slow at the beginning, he just throws the big balloon up and he Catches it his arms. And then he throws it up again. He spins in a circle. And he catches it again in front of him. I am surprised he didn't get more red X's before he got to the end of his act. Just because it started really, really slow on how he was doing this here. But he did end up getting two red buzzers from Mel and Sophia pretty early on in his performance. But he, you know, brings up more energy. He does a different thing. This time he throws up. The the red balloon and he runs off stage. And the balloon is slowly, slowly, slowly falling to the ground. And suddenly from the other side of the stage comes another Godfrey, we assume the same one, maybe not. runs in and catches the balloon again before it falls to the ground. he then does another one where he throws it up again and he runs off the stage completely. And then another one comes from the audience, comes in and catches it. As you can see, this is the exit whole entire act is him throwing a balloon up and catching it. Audience does actually like it, or actually quite into it by the end of it. and both of our male judges and Simon and how we do actually like and appreciate the humor that's happening on the stage, but the the girls weren't having it at all. so this definitely split the judges a little bit, but it's a comedy act. It's it's a hundred percent a comedy act. It was never meant to be great. It's meant to make us laugh. I do think it did that. but in terms of what else to talk about, there's not too much else to talk about with Mr. Godfrey from the act component itself. Cody: Ha ha ha. Yes. No, I w I was bored at the beginning. It didn't seem very interesting and like this was gonna be it. And then when he started going off stage and the other one came on stage, I like, okay. I I'm kinda getting it now. but it it took some time to get there. and it's it was a little slow. Now, I mean, if you go see one of his shows, this might be a a recurring theme. but for those of us just seeing him for a couple of minutes, it it kind of started off real slow. But yeah, I c I kinda got the humor as well. And I th I thought it was kinda funny and Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: I enjoy it this one time. I'm not sure if I want to see this this as as Commander would say, this is probably a paper plate act. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Well It's funny that you say that. So he reminds me a lot of Elastic from last year, where it had like one single thing, did his thing, has his clip, and you never hear from again. but it was funny in the moment. We will be talking about Mr. Godfrey later. I will be bringing up him later because he was he's relevant to our future conversation when it comes to statistics here. because he maybe he is a one-time view thing, but there might be some numbers telling us from America that they appreciated him a lot more than maybe we're saying here. Cody: Yes. Nice. Okay. I can't wait to hear that. Minnesota Ryan: We'll leave that as a nice little cliffhanger and we'll move on from Mr. Godfrey. Okay, we get to our first, I would say, fun act of the night. Our first one that really brings a lot of really good positive act onto the stage that we can talk a little bit more about here. So I'm gonna see if I can pronounce this correctly, because it's not spelled how he says it. So the spelling looks like va tang, but I think he goes like vaqtang. Like he has a little bit of almost like a K sound in the middle of it when he says it. Cody: Okay. Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: but it's this very, very happy, energetic dude from Georgia, not the state, the country, Georgia. and he he comes out with his translator. He can speak English, it's kinda more of your kind of broken style English, but he does have a translator out there to help him with some of the judge comments. and he comes out and he says, I'm gonna surprise you. I I also really appreciated that his translator did not know how to use the microphone, so he was like helping his translator hold the microphone up to talking. but Cody: Yes. Yes Yes. Minnesota Ryan: The biggest thing, he's just this big, kind of happy dude who's just really happy to be there, ready to surprise with something funny, he's constantly good energy. You don't know what he's gonna do. He could be a comedian, it could be a comedy act, it could be anything from my how he's describing it. no music plays. He just starts singing, and the song is Black Betty. Now I Black Betty's been around for a long time. A bunch of different artists have sang it. I didn't get exact on who was the original one who sang the first version, but a very well-known song. Cody: Mm-hmm. r r ram jam, I think is what the wiki said. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Think so? Okay, absolutely. But yeah, black very, very recognizable song, but he just is singing. It's straight a cappella. There's nothing else. He kind of gives a little bit of a nice little flare on it. You're like, okay, okay, this is a music act. He's he's singing, but there's no background track to this. And then he starts adding in some beatboxing kind of skills that he has. And he's throughout this performance, he's gonna slowly start to build in beatboxing skills that he has. And it's this is one of the ones that's very hard for me to explain, so I asked Cody to grab a clip here of Mr. my Vok Tang here to kinda show off his skill a little bit 'cause he is a very, very talented beatboxer that is not only beatboxing, but he's also singing and he's definitely a bass singing 'cause he sings very low as he does some of these. so I definitely think we let's listen to the clip and then we can kinda talk about like what he's doing if you gotta hear. Oof, I mean, that's talent. And again, I there's always these levels of beatboxing and singing, and we have these things. He's doing two things simultaneously with one voice box. So I always want to clarify that for the people out there. Like he's singing and creating the noise in his background track the exact same time. When you first heard this, Cody, did you think this was good? Did you think this was like too much going on at once? Did where did you enjoy it right away when you first heard it? Yeah. Yeah. Cody: Yeah. enjoyed it. I thought it amazing. Yeah, I thought it was absolutely incredible when I first heard it. I'm usually not into beatboxing, but this I really, really liked. I thought just with the the deep voice, the deep growl along with singing and and Black Betty's just a fun song as well. I I thought he was absolutely incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, I would agree. And funny enough, there's a lot of people online that say that beatbox has always should should have been a part of AGT. Because it is a skill that nobody else can perform and it's a stage that they can get recognized in a way that's not. A lot of beatboxers have gone to social media instead to make their presence known. so what we perceive as beatbox, if you haven't seen them online, is more of, you know, your boots and cats and boots and cats and whatever, and it's like your background of maybe an a cappella group. But like a lot of beatbox has developed into this because new age music has become more electronic, and so a lot more people are more trying to more mimic the sounds of the reverse. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: and the sounds of the the background track of the electronic music now and so now there's a lot more artists trying to do this. So he's the first to come on to AGT and do this style of beatbox with and being obviously a bass on top of that. So he's bringing that deep tone to it is just it was awesome. Like I I love this type of act. I want more of this on AGT going forward. I hope he inspires other beatboxers to come on and show off this talent because it's it's kind of like an art. Like every artist paints a little differently and Beatbox is also a very artistry type thing that people will do it differently and you'll appreciate it the same way. now with him I always will say, like, you'll he was on the audition stage, right? Surprised us there. When it comes to live show, right, what can you do more? We've lost the surprise factor. Can he produce something more? Is there more that he's hiding? Is there more that he can do, or was this all he has? That's what makes him kind of a big question mark into that next stage. But I think surprise factor awesomeness, he's one of my favorite acts of the night so far for me. Cody: Yeah. I think there's one thing we learned from last season with Chris Turner is someone going into this that may kind of be middle of the road, may not be that great, and had found a way throughout the season to progress. And we thought Chris Turner was kind of a okay, he can yeah, he can rap and he's kinda does this improv thing and then come you know, he finishes second and w we all just loved him at the end of the season. I think that's kinda kinda be what va va tongue va Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Vakt I it's Vaktang, Vaktang. I think it's that. Yeah. Cody: Lock Tang, yeah. I think I think he's gonna be one that we're gonna watch and be surprised by as the season goes along. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: I agree. I completely agree. And honestly, your Chris Turner comparison is incredible, by the way, because the one thing I noticed with him is that so he's doing pretty well on the YouTube based platform right now, but he's struggling a little bit more on Instagram, is exactly what happened to Chris Turner. And the thing is that improv rap and beatbox both exist on the younger platforms, and so people have seen them more often, they're less impressed. But the older platforms he's succeeding really well. It's almost the same trend right now. It's pretty cool. so nice pull on that. That's good job. We will. Yes. Cody: Mm. Okay. Okay. Got we'll have to keep well yeah, we'll have to keep an eye on it. Yeah. And and I just love his like attitude. I love his personality, his attitude. He's so much fun. He's got such a good heart. man, I just can't wait to watch this guy. It's gonna I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. He's a good dude. Real good dude. Minnesota Ryan: He's a good dude. He I'm I'm I think he his personality is gonna go just as far as his his talent is. Almost similar to what Sal Ballatinetti did, right? His talent and his personality are gonna drive him, I think, farther on this show. so I'm really happy for him. He obviously gets four jud four yeses from the judges. It's a pretty easy yes. They're all super happy with it. one of my favorite Vaktain quotes of the day is after they gave him a positive comment, he went, Yes, I'm famous. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: So I love his personality. He's an awesome dude. He immediately goes backstage and is instantly trying to beatbox with Terry. It's just like he's a fun presence on this show. Anything else you want to say on our incredible beatboxer here? Perfect. Okay. So we're gonna move into this is we're gonna spend a little time on these next two because this is a big premise of the show today. And we'll fall into one of our listener questions later that we have. We're about to talk about some magicians here. and they're two separate magicians. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yeah. nope. Minnesota Ryan: They're no back-to-back, but they're almost wrapped together in the way that AGT presents them because they present them as the two magicians that are about to come. and they kind of get different comments as we go through it. So the first one we're gonna talk about is Cameron Marshall. Here he is our close-up card magic magician, our our kind of like he's he remembers he talks about Shinlim a little bit. He didn't idolize himself off Shinlim, but that's more an other magician did that more, but his magic is closer to what we'll see of a Shinlim type magic of the close-up card magic. Now. he's twenty six years old. He started doing magic when he was thirteen years old, so he's been doing magic for about thirteen years. and he did it because a teacher played AGT in his classroom when he was younger and he got inspired and he wanted to do magic. Cody: Ha ha ha Minnesota Ryan: he does a lot of street magic, corporate events, private parties, and that is relevant because that is gonna be kind of the comment he gets later from Simon is his type of magic matches exactly that of what you typically see at those type of events. try my best to explain this. It's always hard with card magic. So he does a bunch of cartridges, they're all close up card tricks. but the premise of what he's doing is he's basically showing that any point in time, he can just change whatever card he places down onto the table into all of the same number of whatever the judges choose as the number that. They have randomly, right? So if a judge s has him stop and he they pull out a two of spades, he now suddenly changes every card on the table to a two of spades that's already been sitting there. So it's like he's basically showing he has full control of all the cards and he can change them at will to whatever number that he wants. he does a bunch of variations of this, with an eight, with a two, with a couple different changes, with a nine, he does it with. and his big reveal at the end is he has each of the judges take a card based on where they stopped in the pile and stuff like that. And it turns out he has a tattoo. on his left forearm, which matches perfectly the order and the numbers and the suits. and he says these are his favorite cards that he ever has. Now they're very random cards. And we're talking like what, it was like an ace of hearts and like a seven of spades. Like there's absolutely correlation to these cards. So if these are truly his favorite cards or not, they're very weird choices of cards, but it does perfectly match what the judges chose. It's a wonderful card trick. I don't know how he did it. If we had commentary on maybe he'd have an idea of how things were happening. Cody: Right. Minnesota Ryan: I'd be intrigued to see what he thought of this compared to Shinlim, 'cause it's always hard to compare anybody to Shinlim these days because he was just on another level of good. but it's a it it's a fun trick. He did a great job. I I don't know how he did it. I was very happy with him. Could his stage presence be a little more? Could he be a little bigger with it? Absolutely. But there I didn't think there was anything wrong with this act. What did you think of Mr. Cameron here? Cody: This is the type of close up magic that I more enjoy, where he's going to the judges' tables, he's doing the interactions, he's asking a lot of questions, a lot of things are going on. But what we've seen on AGT is to really advance in this, you've got to have I don't really want to use this word, but a gimmick. You've got to have a thing. And you whether it's like Piff or it's a John Doran boss, or if you're boring like Shen Lim, you know, one of those things, then you know, then you're gonna advance throughout the show. Minnesota Ryan: Yes. Cody: He just seemed like an average Joe doing card tricks. And I I kinda agree with the judges when they say, you know, it it felt corporate. It felt like yes, this is something you would do at at a corporate gig. You've gotta you've gotta find something else to kinda go along with. Again, whether it's just telling jokes or it's doing motivational speaking, whatever whatever it may be, to kind of go along with the magic trick. Card close up magic is like a dime a dozen. I mean Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: There's a lot of them out there. It's finding a way to kind of stick out and and and making yourself different than all the other types of card magicians. I did enjoy it. I found it little fun. He's he's fast, he's very talkative, it's enjoyable. But he he didn't do anything to make it like stick with me. Like, will I remember him in three weeks? It's it's gonna be tough. So yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. No, that's the perfect way to describe him. he thi him and the next position we're gonna talk about are almost polar opposites, by the way. So this so Cameron's you know, he's he doesn't have a lot of flash or a lot of show. It's like he does his trick, it's easy to understand, you know exactly what he's doing, he's not mixing a lot of words or doing extra explain like explanations, he just does it and he's done. And it's and you're impressed. But you're right, we've seen a lot of that on AGT. We're on season twenty one now. Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Right, we have mobile magicians win the show. Like there's a point when it's less impressive. Not that it isn't impressive, it's just comparatively to the past, we're not gonna be excited by it. and that is exactly Cody: Yeah. Even like a Matt Fran even like a Matt Franco, it seems similar to a Matt Franco, but for some reason Matt Franco was different. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. And I think a lot of that's the charisma. I I think Cameron, I think the biggest thing if he does go on to the next step, the biggest thing is gonna be upping that character, you know, right, making him memorable. Even if it's something yeah, a little gimmicky here and there, but just giving us something that makes him stand out amongst the magicians. Cause you're right, if I were to look at we have like four or five magicians in this season already, and if I were to like you just told me the name and I didn't do the research today, I might have like, Which one was that? And like that's not where you want to be as a magician. but Cody: Yeah. Right. Minnesota Ryan: Get good magician. Very I' I if this is the worst of our night comparatively to other nights, then I'm not sad about this. but it is definitely I want a little more. The judges do give him four yeses. Simon was the only one that wasn't super confident when he was kind of going through his comments. I don't know if we have yeah, we actually may have Simon's comments here, it looks like maybe as one of our files. Let's maybe play that and see kind of what he'd said here. So you can kinda like that. Simon was like, I'm gonna say yes, but I also like, I don't know if I'm gonna pick you to make the live shows unless I know there's gonna be more. He was kind of in that state. and he and he is right. He did say he's like, this feels like something I'd see at a dinner. Well, it turns out the guy he's talking to literally does like dinner events and corporate events, so it's like it's exactly what he does. So if he wants to be a Vegas style magician, a bigger stage magician, he has to up his magic to match that level. just to do more with what he has. But I like him, nice dude. Cody: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: any other things you want to say on Mr. Cameron here? Cody: no. Nope. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect. Well, I guess I it's important to kind of talk about these two together because we're we just left like sound, solid, easy understand magic with no big. To now we're gonna go to someone who has a little more complex magic with it being a little bit more out of control, harder to understand, but maybe more impressive depending on what you're looking at and how you perceive it. So next up is Mr. Daryl Motin. Now, in the video package, it showed Daryl and Cameron talking to each other. And camera was like, I just wanna get this thing over with. I just wanna be done with this. And and Daryl is showing all anxiety, all nerves. He's he's never performed in front of a live stage before. And he tells a little bit more about his story. So he was inspired by Shinlim, like like everybody is, you know, the the boring person that Cody says. He inspired nobody apparently. but he's been inspired to do Shin Lim style bigger magic. but he grew up introverted. so he's only ever done magic in his parents' attic using a webcam and a computer. Cody: Yep. Minnesota Ryan: So he's never once performed in front of a stage. And he is giving all impressions that he is nervous, nervous, nervous. Never done this, all anxious, not feeling well. but he's like ready to just give it a try and just see what happens. I would say I wrote this down. I said his whole act is based around his nerves. So that is a relevant thing to talk about here and to have that be in your mind is that he's doing it and he's showing like he's confident, but you can sense nerves and kind of what he's doing. so I'm gonna try and break this down. There's a lot of steps to his act here. so he does a couple card tricks, he comes up table. And he does a couple card tricks in front of the judges. He like makes a deck a a whole deck appear inside a deck box that he has and he like pulls out a couple cards. He he kinda does a couple basic tricks, kinda like what we saw with Cameron, just less refined than I think that what Camera was doing. So you're like, okay, well maybe this guy doesn't have the talent, maybe he's not as good as the one before. and it's also really relevant as I explain this to say that Simon is currently wearing these red glasses. As he's doing this act, that is very relevant to about what's about to happen. So he's doing most of his tricks with Simon, but he Simon's wearing these red glasses and he's doing these tricks. he then kind of has Simon grab a card from him. And he just says he says, Simon, don't look at this card, remember your card, you're gonna remember your card, right? Like and everything like that. And so Simon grabs his card, holds it, doesn't show anybody but himself. He's the only one that knows the card that he has. Then Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: Daryl goes up back to the stage, has a box on the stage, and he basically tells Simon to just stare at this box and focus on this box and that hi somehow this card is gonna just appear out of thin air by if he just stares at this box. So we get a couple clips back and forth of Simon staring at a box. and then suddenly cards explode from the box and he dramatically grabs a card out of midair, makes it look all great and everything, and he does a whole lead up and then reveals his card. and the card that he pulls out, Daryl pulls out from the box, is the five of spades. Okay, this is relic. So he goes up to Simon, he says, Simon, is this your card? Simon like squints in his glasses and he goes, Yes? Like like a kind of a mid mid confident yes. Yeah. go for it, go for it. Cody: Yeah, let me let let me play this real qu let me play this real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Again, Daryl's holding the five of spades right now. Cody: I I know that doesn't play great on audio, but at least gets the feeling of like the the the drama and like the the panic that's there. So yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Gasp. You're all good. It the awkwardness. Yeah. Exactly. And so again, the clarifies. So Daryl's hole in the Five of Spades. Simon says, Yes, that's my card. Then immediately turns over and goes, That's Five of Hearts, right? Like clearly this is not the right card. And yes, Simon does have the Five of Hearts. That is the card that he has. He shows the rest of the judges, and it actually isn't even Simon that says he got it wrong. I think it's actually like Howie on the other side that goes over and says, like, no, you have the wrong card. Like, that's not correct. Yeah. Cody: Well s yeah, Sophia goes, No. Yeah. So it's like Minnesota Ryan: So we go through this whole like kind of moment, it goes in it ca you saw on that clip there, kinda goes to commercial break in the middle of it. So we sit in this for like three to four minutes as we're watching this episode of like this waiting of the this act has gone completely wrong. and that Daryl has messed this up. He suddenly looks like he gets super flustered and he's like asking like did I get it wrong, did I get wrong? Did I get wrong? And suddenly he finds he got it's wrong, so he so and he goes, I gotta be done. Can I come back another day? Can I come back and do this again? 'Cause I messed something up and then he just bolts off the stage. and then it's like Exactly. Cody: The sheer panic on his face was just Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I hey, I'll give whether or not this was all planned or not, Daryl, you're a great actor. You did a great job with making this really seem hyped up. Then I think the judges were still maybe waiting on is this gonna be a poll? Is this gonna be a change type of thing? And then suddenly the producers come out and go to the front judge stand and they're like, no, we're gonna move the next act. Like they they really hype it up. They're cleaning the stage off from his cards, right? So it literally looks like he just left and they're gonna move on to the next act. And then right? And then Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're picking up all the cards. Yeah. Yep. Bringing the a bringing the amp out for the next singer. So yeah, so it's like Minnesota Ryan: Bam, all of a sudden on a big screen, big projector screen on front, he, Daryl, reappears and goes, I'm backstage right now, and you know what? I know what went wrong. I didn't ask you enough questions, Simon. So I'm gonna ask you more questions. and so he starts asking, like, pick me a number, pick me a color. And Simon's not gonna choose your red, blue, green. No, he's gonna choose turquoise as the color that he's gonna choose. Cody: It's Minnesota Ryan: And he's like, give me an give me a number here, you know? He says one through a hundred number, and you're like, maybe he's gonna choose a deck card number. Nope, he chooses seventy-seven. That was his choice for for things. So we have turquoise and seventy-seven. He randomly chooses these. And then suddenly, Daryl starts to go, What if this conversation we're having right now that appears live? What if it's not actually live? What if it's pre-recorded? Suddenly pulls away and he's holding an iPad of a pre-recorded conversation, making it look as if he was just talking to Simon using a pre-recorded conversation, acting as if he knew all along that this conversation was gonna happen, that Simon was gonna choose 77, that he was gonna choose turquoise, and he's predicted it all. And he starts to go like, you know, I knew all this stuff, everything's great, but what if what if this conversation's not real? And suddenly crumples up a piece of paper and he's like, Who knows what's real now? Nobody knows what's real. I've predicted all this and suddenly Daryl reappears back from from the audience on the backside and he's walking down. He walks Reb Simon and goes, Is this your card? And it is the Five of Hearts. and then he finishes his act up saying he knew all along. He just he knew exactly how to fix this thing. and bam, crazy judges are going through it. Mal is confused as she always is. and and then and then I was left there going, I need to process what just happened on my screen. What do you think, Cody, of this entire magic act from front to back? Cody: Ha ha ha. Yeah, so I was kind of a little bored in the first part of it. And then when we get to the part where he gets the card, quote, wrong, I was like, wow, okay, that's it's interesting. And then he's panicked and then we come back, have the commercial, and we do the whole screen thing, and we did the whole screen thing and I'm like, you know, I'm out. I'm I'm not big on these like pre recorded type magic tricks. I just I d I don't know. There's something about the it seems a little skeevy. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cody: To me, just doesn't doesn't seem right. and then the most impressive thing from the audience perspective is him walking down the aisle. Like they're all like, my god, here he comes, he's walking down the aisle. my goodness, there he is. It's like not that he just like appeared out of nowhere, he's just like just like casually walking down the aisle to the judges table. I don't know. I I I don't feel like either magic act was like that impressive. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. He just walked off stage. Agreed. Cody: Like n neither he's probably gonna be a little more memorable just from the weirdness of it, but I didn't feel like either act was that great. I I I see your point of that he was his whole act is him just being nervous. Cause yeah, even when he like walks, the way he kind of presents himself, it didn't feel like there was confidence there. I I don't know. It's just it's it was a very weird, weird act. Minnesota Ryan: Completely agree. That's it. That's exactly kinda how I would describe it. Now do think I do think Simon messed up his act. And I'll go to one specific kind of area that felt off to me, and it was at the very end, right? Cause I I wrote down specifically I'm like, the end of this act didn't feel like a very big reveal. Cause he literally like Simon just showed everybody his card, told him that no, it's the five of hearts, not the five of spades or whatever, and we get to the end and he's like, BAM, I got your card. I'm like Cody: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right. Minnesota Ryan: For all we know, you went off stage, grabbed the card, and then just handed it to him. It just was like it's just like I I think what it was supposed to be was that Simon was never supposed to show anyone his card, and he was supposed to get it wrong, mess it up, and then come in and be like, Bam, I knew your card all along. And it was supposed to make much more sense, but because Simon showed off his card, because he did mess up the act by reading the thing wrong originally, I think that kind of made it feel really weird at the end. And I think that's what's created a lot of the confusion for people online where they don't understand this act. Cody: Right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he he got it wrong in the wrong way. He was I think it was supposed to be an intentional wrong that I think it's supposed to be intentional that that that that corre Daryl, sorry, Daryl, that Daryl picked the wrong card and Simon's like, No, that's that's not my card. And he's like, well, I'm hold on, I need to go take a break. I need to kind of process this. But because Simon messed up him doing it wrong. Minnesota Ryan: You know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Cody: It threw him I don't say it threw him off, but it just threw off. It just made the act weird. You're right. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Me can you imagine before performing something where you know you have to mess up and then the person messes up the part that you have to mess up and you talk about readjusting on the fly. Like that is that is wild. overall, like I said, all the judges, they did like it. Like he he had he had some sort of weird flair to him, which did do him justice. The thing that Cameron did not have at all. Like he he did have something. But Cody: Yeah. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I think the awkwardness and the nervousness and the confusion of the act I think is going to hurt him a little bit when it comes to like America liking him as a better actor. Cody: Yeah. W when I initially watched it on Tuesday night, I thought that production was in on it, the judges were in on it. I thought everybody was in on it and it was all planned that they were gonna go ahead and go to go to the next act and then this whole thing. I mean obviously production was in on it because they had to play the the video, but after watching it a second time, then I realized Simon actually messed up where he was supposed to have get it wrong. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yeah. Cody: So Minnesota Ryan: You you you'd think you'd think that first of all, why Simon, stop wearing shaded glasses and doors. maybe that's step one. Okay. I I I feel like I've I feel like I know that, but I also haven't processed it. I haven't sat and thought about Cody: So he's he's been doing this for years, you realize that, right? Yeah, he's actually been Yeah. I think he's been wearing these since maybe s sixteen or seventeen. Yeah, it was like yeah, it's been several years 'cause he he would talk about how the lights would give him headaches. And so he switched he so he started wearing these, to kinda help with the the bright lights in the theater. Minnesota Ryan: Geez, okay. I suppose. Okay, yeah, I suppose. You know, it makes me wonder now when he was watching Cameron's act, was he like just did could see any colors and he's like, Yeah, that's impressive and just had no clue what was going on. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Did you play with did you play with Transformers as a kid? Like was okay. So and and and I don't know if it was a your generation, but in my generation, on when you got the when you bought your transformer on the back of the box, there was usually like a little red box that would have kind of this transformer stat and it would have some red lines in it and you would get a red piece of film in your with your transformer, and you'd put that piece of film over that and it would then show you it'd remove the redness Minnesota Ryan: I did. I did. yeah. Yes, yes, yeah. Cody: And show you the graph. So it's possible that his red glasses blocked out the red hearts on the card. Minnesota Ryan: okay. It it's just it was a whole mess. That's all it was. But I mean it's at the end of the day, he Daryl made it through. He got he got his three yeses, only one no from Mel, who is almost every year is confused by one magic act, regardless of of if they're good or not. so this was the one. so Mel said no because she was confused. but everyone else said yes, and we are most likely gonna see Daryl again. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: In the future and maybe he's gonna be more confident or is he gonna do another nervous act? I don't really know where he goes from here. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like AGT is just playing the same I was confused clip every week. 'Cause it seems to be the same like it's almost the same cadence, the same voice, like they're just playing I was a bit confused. Minnesota Ryan: It feels like it. It it does feel the same. It's just I I laughed when I heard her say it 'cause I'm like, yep, yep, we're we were due for that. so either way. Okay, we spent quite a bit of time on Mr. Daryl here. Anything else you wanna add on to to Daryl, anything about his act you wanna add for right now? Perfect. Okay, we're gonna move on to Miss Nene here, who is our fifteen year old singer guitarist from Thailand. so she says she comes from a non-musical family. Cody: Yeah, yeah. Nope. Nope. Minnesota Ryan: and when she was growing up, she kinda had two different supports. Like so her her mom wanted her to be in school. She's gotta study, she's gotta go to college, she's gotta live a normal life because she's, you know, currently fifteen, and that is the right thing to do. and then she's like, No, mom, I hate school and does not want to do that at all. Instead wants to go and pursue a career as an artist. She wants to tour and be a superstar, and that's her thing. obviously clearly her dad is has full given full support to her dream and to support her because her dad is there with her on this performance here. We do not see her mom, obviously, so I don't know if it's like the family's still together or not. Either way, we have now ended up that Nene is here and she's gonna perform and she has this pretty sick guitar. It's like your old school classic rock guitar. It's got kinda like a wood style tone to it. but it it looks like she's ready to rock out. This kind of reminds me a lot of kind of how Bay walked on the stage last year of like Cody: Ha ha ha Minnesota Ryan: I don't know what we're gonna get here, but I feel like we're gonna get some rock. it's gonna be fun. so she kind of gives this very shy appearance when she first is out. She's like, you know, hi, I don't know how much English she speaks fluently. She has a couple grammar issues in there, so it's my probably her second language, obviously. so she's like shy, not saying a whole lot. She's like, I'm just wanna be a rock star, I wanna tour and wanna do all this stuff. and then she's like, I'm gonna perform, and they say, Go for it. Music kinda calms down, or background music calms down, and then she literally is about to play zombie. Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: by Cranberries, which is like one of the most like awesome rock songs of all time. and she's gonna start off by shredding the guitar and going a full-on like rock scream, but not like your bad rock scream. We have a we've had a couple of those this year. but like instead your like really good, well-toned, like good rock scream that gets you immediately into rock music for this always perfect for this song. I before I get talking too much on Nana, I think I think we just gotta hear Cody: Yes. Ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: a little bit of her perform here 'cause then we'll have a plenty to go off of after that. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: I mean it's it's rock. It is good rock. and I wouldn't expect it coming from a fifteen almost sixteen year old girl who's up there super shy. So it was a huge surprise. She has shock factor, she's talented, she's got stage presence, galore. What did you think of Miss Nana? Cody: I loved this. I thought it was one of the best acts of the night. Anytime you can get a good rock band or rock artist on AGT, I am completely on board with it. what it did remind me of though is and I knew Howie was gonna love this, Miss Courtney Hadwin, 100%. I was like, this is exactly like Courtney Hadwin. She's jumping on the stage. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yep. Yes. Cody: play singing some rock songs. You know, Courtney didn't have the guitar, but other than that, it reminded me a lot. Very shy, very timid. And then all of a sudden this like monster comes out of him out of her. and and how he's getting into it. I'm like, this is great. Absolutely love this. And it's a great song. I've been waiting for a a good song that I recognize all season. and I'm glad she picked this one. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect choice. Exactly. And I to me I'm with you. This is one of my favorite acts of the night. I I was incredibly impressed. You could do this completely wrong. So you could sing this song and completely screw up the song. Like if you're not into it, you're not feeling it, you're not r shredding the guitar, you're not doing the right type of like vibe. You can even hear it how she sings. Like the little rasp that comes out at the right moments when she sings get you really into the vibe. She's experienced. I think that was the biggest thing to me that I was surprised by is I was expecting, you know. 15, almost 16 year old to be like, hey, this is her first time on a big stage. She's doing it. No, she acts like she's been doing this for her entire life, which is incredibly impressive. I mean, she she even is like, she's whipping the hair around and she's not even like fixing it as she's rocking out after that. So I mean it's it was incredibly impressive to me. of course, right when she finishes, she just rocked out, she's holding her hand to the sky, classic rock star style, and then she immediately starts crying when she's done. Because it's yeah, it's like it's just it was like the switch. It's like what? Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: demon is inside you that comes out when you play, like that completely changes your personality. and it was just it I loved it. I loved every bit of this. I she's going to be one we're gonna talk about later when it comes to numbers. there she has been a very she's a highlighted starred act from this night and over the course of the season that I definitely want to make sure we spend some time talking about because we're seeing a trend with her that I've only seen with a couple acts in the past few years. Cody: Yeah. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: so it'll be interesting to see when we get there. We'll talk more about it. but I have high hopes for her. I do. I think I think I think if if Bay can make it to the semifinals with what he did, then she should be able to have a shot at making it farther with her talent. Cody: Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping that when she gets to the live shows that they can get her a full band around her. 'cause you know we just had yeah, let her rock 'cause she just had her guitar with the with her amp and then the big backing track, which I thought was a great backing track. so if they can get sh they can get a real drummer, an actual drummer there with you know, other guitars, man, it could be an amazing performance. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. Yeah. Let her rock. awesome. Yeah. Exactly. Like I I think song choice is incredibly important. With her music category, I think song choice is gonna be incredibly important. But if she can find kinda almost do what Richard did, where it's like find that niche of those old rock songs people love, I think she could be a dark horse in the entire show. So it'll be fun to see where she goes. Anything else you wanna add on Miss Nane here? Cody: Yes. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Yep. nope, just aim at my generation. Nana. You're you're gonna get votes if you aim at my generation. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Awesome. True. That is so true. Okay, let's move on to an act I think we'll have a lot of yes, obviously that yeah, let's blow up some clips. Cody: wait, we had sorry, we had we had Howie's comments. Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah. Yeah, and we knew how he was gonna love it. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. He was loving it, loving it. He was having blast. no, it's and it's true. And like I think if her whole goal was to come on the show and have a chance at being a rock star, having a chance at touring, I think sh no matter where she goes, she's done that for herself. The amount of views she's gonna get, the amount of love she's gonna get, I think she's opened up a door for herself. And maybe her mom will not push her so much to go to school after this clip. Okay, let's move on to Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: This is gonna be a fun conversation I'm excited to have with you about our next act, Royal Lasers, here. Cause I feel like, depending on the viewer, they're gonna have a very different opinion on this act and kind of the history, how much they know about the show, what have they seen, when have they been watching? Like I think it's gonna be very fun to talk about them. So, Royal Lasers is a dance electronic act. They are very similar to acts that we have seen in the past. the three main people that we hear of are Cindy, Josh, and Nick. I'm pretty sure she said it was Cindy and Josh, our Cody: Okay. Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: married and then Nick was like a friend, a very close friend. They were previously doing an AGT residency in Vegas, and two of them were backup dancers, one was a choreographer. So they've been working together on an AGT style stage for an extended period of time with this. And they've been working on this act for a long time. My assumption is they probably were working maybe with some of the acts that they look like in that time period when they were doing the residency. They primarily say they want to put themselves into a spotlight. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: That's why they came. It wasn't necessarily like I'm here to win. I'm here to do something you've never seen before. I'm here to do they just want to create a stage and show off what they can do to bring attention to their work. That was kind of the big idea that they brought up. so we do their own introductions, they walk off stage, lights dim, you know, and doesn't seem like we're gonna get any technological difficulties and everything's looking pretty good. And then all of a sudden we get bam, it looks like light balance is back on the stage. Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: That's that's basically what it looks like almost immediately. We have lasers coming down, we have full body suits of lights. I mean, it literally looks like they replaced light balance back onto the stage. so we're sitting here going, Okay, is this is light balance returning? Is this a cameo? Is this something different? Like what what is happening here? And then all of a sudden kind of the they're they're dancing to Backstreet Boys for a little bit, and this the tone changes. And then suddenly out of the sky appears a giant octopus squid-like creature. Cody: Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: That a it is now a boss fight that has entered the stage as they're doing their dance. as we go through, they do a bunch of different type of styles that show as if they're like fighting off this octopus while also dancing and showing off the equipment. At one point in time, they like grab a laser, turn it into a whip, like shoot off thing projectiles that are being shooted to them, and then they defeat the big octopus and they go back to backstreet boys, and they're dancing and they're living it out, and then bam, they're done. So it's it's the best way for me, because it's gonna be you just have to go and watch this to understand exactly what it is. But it's it's kind of like they took a version of light balance and combined it with a version of light wire from last year and put it into kind of one act and then did it. And I think the perception, did they do it better or not, is up to the viewer that watched it. at least that was my perception. What do you think of of Royal Lasers? Cody: Yeah. conflicted with this Ryan because I love you know Team Illuminate started this whole thing. They walked so that Light Balance could run and then Light Balance kids came in right after them. And now we have this. And I'm conflicted because I love this style of act. I s I've seen Illuminate in person. I think I saw Light Balance when I went into AGT in Vegas as well. And they might have been in that show that I went to. it's very possible. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cody: So I I really like this type of act, but at the same time I'm like, man, I really just want Light Balance to like be be the one. I want them to be like the GOAT, right? I I I but the graphics that you the the big octopus looked really good. I'll say that. But obviously that type of technology, that projection technology has really improved. But I thought their outfits looked the same. They were kind of dressed they were dressed as cowboys, right? Cowboys, yeah. Yeah, with the Backstreet Boys Minnesota Ryan: Yes, it did. It looked like cowboys. They did a lot of cowboy based things. Yeah. Cody: songs, they did cowboy outfits, yeah. so I thought their their outf their ost outfits looked good, but it still looked the same as Light Balance. The projections looked really good. Again, that technology's improved. So I'm kind of rambling here, Ryan, because I I don't know what to think of this yet. and it's just the three of them. Light balance had like eight. Something like that. There's a bunch of them. I just I don't know. I don't know yet what to think. I really their dancing's really good. They look good. Minnesota Ryan: Naturally. Yeah. No, it it's the truth though. Cody: But I I just I just want light balance. I just that's all I want. I just want light balance. So Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. They they're good. And I want this to be clear to everyone listening right now. They are good. They're very good. And I think that they are justifiably worthy of a golden buzzer type performance because it is an act that isn't it's impressive. It's special. It is cool. When we go to the golden buzzer conversation, right, we've seen this act as a golden buzzer before. So naturally we don't want to give it again to the exact same act. Cody: Yeah, they're good dancers. Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: It just feels off. Like you Exactly. So it's like I think the challenge with this act, it comes down to what they're doing is impressive. It is really cool. It does deserve to be on this show. But I looked at it and went, are they better than Light Balance? Not sure. I don't think so. Are they better than Lightwire last year? I don't think so. So therefore it's like I don't know. I wasn't blown away. And as a person who's drafted a lot of electronic acts in my time as we do this, like I was ready to love this act. Cody: Tyra ti ti Tyra gave it to light balance. Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: Like I like, this is gonna be the electronic act of this year. It's gonna be fun. And I left it going, I don't feel like I got anything different than I've gotten in the past. And I'm less on board with it. Maybe they'll do something impressive in the next round. This is kinda like like Lightwire had their best performance in the quarters when they came out. Like I thought that was where they really showed off a little bit, maybe the finals back then, but like maybe they come up with something even better. But to me it did kind of feel like a light balance ripoff. And it's it's hard for me to think more of it than that. And it was hard for me. Also, Terry did not let the judges speak. So we didn't get to hear Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: anything about what they thought of it. We just got Golden Buzzer right away, immediately from it. and I know that exact which I don't love that trend this season. It's not my favorite thing. but I like I'm conflicted. I'm with you. It's like a rambling type act because you're like, I do like them. They're better than so many other ones that we've seen. But it feels almost like we've overhyped it in a way and maybe set them up for failure. Instead of just letting them be an act that goes through to surprise us, you know? Cody: Well, he had to do it before someone else stole it from him, so Yes. Yeah. Yeah. My my my biggest question is did they license the light technology from the per to the the lady that created it or did they did someone create their own version of it? That's that's my biggest question. Like did they just like license the light t technology? So Minnesota Ryan: Maybe. I I hopefully they're gonna make I goldmoser, we're gonna see them next. So maybe we'll get some more detail on their background and what they did in their internship, who they were inspired by, what's different about what they do. Cause presumably if you're AGT, you're gonna see the comments about like this act feels like the last one, and then they're gonna do a video package is hopefully gonna answer some of those questions. So we'll learn more about They're either the hardest act for me to predict in the show. I feel like they ev every year we get one electronic act that finishes fifth place. It just always happens. And they have the potential Cody: Okay. Whether it's drones or rope robots. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Exact well, drones were third, they were the highest of it. But Lightwire was five last year, right? So it's like yeah, so it's like i I think if they upgrade it, they can reach there. I think this act does well on on this show. But I also think they could go out as early as the quarterfinals if they do nothing special. It's i they're so hard to predict, but they're a golden buzzer, so if we're going to our like draft potential, do you draft them high, do you draft them low? Like I don't even know what to do with them. and it's it's very they're a fun act, I like We'll probably be talking about them a little bit more when we get to our listener questions a little bit. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: but I'm with you. It's hard to know exactly where I stand on them. yeah, we don't get much there's a yeah, let's do it. Cody: Yeah. let's hear Terry's let's let's hear Terry's gold reason real quick. Minnesota Ryan: I mean it's it's a it's an emotional golden buzzer. Like they did a really good job with it. I mean, Fix you's a fantastic song to put behind I know Commenter mentioned that online. It's it is it really does bring a lot of emotion to that moment. but it's it's another golden buzzer on the show. We'll have a conversation I think at the end of today about golden buzzers on the show this year. but I I like them. We'll see where they go from here. Exactly. I don't think I think that's the best way to describe them right now. Okay, any last things you want to mention on Royal Lasers here? Cody: Just conflicted. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect. Okay, let's move on to our next crew. Now, we just went from an act that seems like very similar to acts we've seen in the past, and we're about to go into an act that I haven't seen a whole lot of on this show, and I have no clue what they're gonna do on this show going forward, and that is Jesse White Tumbling Team. So what they basically are, they're a tumbling team. It it I want you guys to picture gymnastics style stuff, but all they're doing is the tumbling. So imagine just the floor routine is what they're doing. But now add on that they're gonna do trampoline-based floor routine work. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: So it's like kind of a picture of your gymnastics, but instead they're gonna start their tumbling routine on a trampoline. They're gonna fly off the trampoline and they're gonna launch themselves across the stage as they do this stuff. It that's kind of what tumbling is. It's all it is a whole sport. it's not heavily broadcasted. There's a lot of people that do this and it's been around for a long time, but it's been wrapped into gymnastics. So it's kind of like a gymnastics skill now that's here. this specific tumbling team, the Jesse White tumbling team, has been founded It's been around. It was founded sixty-seven years ago by Jesse White himself, who is on the stage and is present for this performance. and it was based out of Chicago, and it's been a long standing thing that's been run like generations of families have come and and done this over the years. their group ages range from eight years old to ninety two. Now, obviously the eighty the seventy plus year olds are not doing any flips. but Jesse himself is 92, so he obviously runs the group, and their youngest is eight years old. So they're one of the, I would say on what we've seen on AGT, one of the largest age ranges of an act that we've seen come on the show for an act of a 20-plus people that's come on, which is kind of fun. they're all wearing red shirts that say, you know, Jesse White, Tumbling, Chicago, Illinois, they're obviously a team together. they lay out one single soft mat that kind of goes across the stage from from our right to our left. And they put one kind of almost launch style trampoline at the right side of our view. And they pretty much, their whole act is they're gonna continue to send constant people that jump on this trampoline, fly through the air, maybe do a flip, maybe land in a weird way, look like they're just flying out of control, but then control it. Like they're gonna do this constantly and just keep sending people through. They clearly have talent levels, because they'll start with the less talented, and then the less talented will build a wall, and then the more talented will jump over the less talented. It's it's obviously like this staged. Flying acrobatic type performance, but all they're doing is jumping and flying through the air. It's not like there's like tarps or stuff or anything. They're just jumping and landing on this mat. they kind of build, build, build, build. They jump over people, they get higher and higher. There's some people I swear could cross the stage with how far they're flying. Like it is actually incredibly impressive. but at the end of the day, they they kind of wrap it all up with the youngest people in their crew, do some tumbling across the mat and they and bam, they're all together and they're happy and they're excited, and that's their act. What do you think of the Jesse White tumbling team here? Cody: Yes. So they're they're a fun act to watch. They they're a fun act to watch. and the story is incredible. This guy that's ninety two years old, that's been doing this for for decades and and watching them have fun, all the different age groups, whatnot. Now, Ryan, I don't know if you noticed this or if you saw this, they were on season four. This was a Yes. So Jesse brought the Tumblers. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What? I did not know I'm excited now. Tell me. Cody: back on season four. They made it to the Veg they made it to the Vegas round and went no further. This is a season four type of act. Minnesota Ryan: Okay, okay. That makes a lot of sense. Cody: This is a season four type of act. Yes, it it fits very well. This is a era one type act. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: That see that that's a kind of where I'm like, I like this act. I do enjoy it. It's fun to watch. But on season 21 of AGT, I sit here and go like, this is not going to compete against current day Modern Acts. But if this were back then, it would have been so incredibly impressive. That's exactly how I see them. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is definitely an era one season four. Exactly and they didn't even ma make it make it past the Vegas round. So Minnesota Ryan: Okay. Well that may you never know. Maybe Redemption Arc, Redemption Story. Maybe they get to the they get a video package that tells that they were on season four and they get like a Jessica bump like she got where they support them, right? Right, correct? So so you never know. I just I I don't know what else. Unless they're gonna start to add dangerous objects in, which seems questionable because what are you gonna do? Have eight-year-olds? Yeah, you're gonna have eight-year-olds jump through fire. Like I don't feel like that's a you could. You could Cody: Yeah. Okay. A Jessica baby bump? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Rings of fire. Why not? Yes. Minnesota Ryan: I've always wanted to be an AGT and l launch myself through fire. Cody: Yeah. I mean V Unbeatable and some of these others, they've had Zerkero, they they'd have they'd have high flyer kids, so it's a Minnesota Ryan: You could. Yeah, it's true. That is that is true. Good point. yeah, yes, forgot. yeah. Okay. Good. Good, good, good. So yeah, they're one of those where I'm like I could see them getting a call back or something like that and then doing something and maybe making it through, but I don't know where they go after that. Maybe they can upgrade it. Cody: Mm-hmm. Well we're gonna have the judges' callbacks. Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Maybe. It's fun. Aga similar to what we just talked about. I like them. I like that they're on the show. But more than this, this might be all we get from from them going forward. go for it. Cody: Yep. Yeah. Let's hear what how he has to say. The the epitome, Ryan. Minnesota Ryan: Pitamy. This is it. This is this is this is our winner. How we said it. man. Cody: Yeah. Hundred years of experience between the two of them though. Minnesota Ryan: It's it's pretty that's it is pretty incredible. I mean, there's not many I wouldn't say there's many activities these days where you can get an eight year old to be excited to do something that a ninety two year old is involved in. Like that is really cool, to be honest. So I I'm really happy for Jesse White. I hope he gets a lot of publicity for this. I hope he gets like more people that wanna do it and he grows what he's doing and it c becomes a legacy for years. but like I said, more on A G T perspective, we'll see, I guess, where they go from here. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Obviously four yeses from all the judges. Terry's sitting over there going, I wish I didn't just use my golden buzzer. I want another one. Cody: I could've sworn that he was gonna give him give them a third Golden Buzzer. Yeah. It would. Yes. Yes. Detroit Youth Choir. Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Right. This this would have been a very Terry act, by the way, to give a golden buzzer to th which like part of me almost Right. Like I I almost kinda wish that the original dog girl act that he had, it we just replace it with this one. This would have been a better Terry fit, I think, to be honest. But Cody: Yes. Yes. Did did Terry not know this act was coming up? Minnesota Ryan: You you think, right? This is a very Terry act. Like I'm like you if you th he stands next to them. Like he he was literally giving his golden buzzer while staring at them backstage. So like I I don't know. But they would have been the same as every other act. It'd have been a golden buzzer, it would've gone on and they would have it wouldn't have heard much more. So it doesn't really change the trajectory of them, but like it would have been would have made sense if this was another Terry Golden Buzzer. anything else you want to say on the Jesse White tumbling team? Perfect. Cody: Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: yeah, we're gonna move through. We have one kind of miniact that didn't get a lot of screen time. We're just gonna quickly bring up here. Israel Isaac was a singer. He was kind of the really tall singer that sang with like a higher voice. He sang the rendition of chasing cars and kind of a higher octave. He had a very nice voice. we we didn't really get much about him, his history at all, anything from him. he did a good job, but the judges just said, Nope, we not enough. We want more. I just want more from you. Anything you wanna particularly say I'm Mr. Israel here. Perfect. Then we'll move on to our one that's gonna be a little bit longer conversation on Mr. Travis Garland, our singer, who kind of his story kind of connects to another show here. so he originally started as a boy band singer when he was younger. and he toured at one point in time with like the Pussycat dolls. He sang and before Justin Bieber, like he obviously had at least enough publicity to have somewhat of a small boy band career, but they eventually did disband. But he felt like he had enough talent to still exist as an artist and as a solo musician. Cody: Yes. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: so he found himself on Dancing with the Stars. and this is I yeah, it's go for it. Cody: Yep, let's let's let's hear him tell that. Yeah. So I wanted to play that for two reasons. R it's you know, I you were you were gonna tell a great story on it, but I I wanted to play that for two reasons. One, I love how he said I'm on a show called Dancing with the Stars. Like no one no one knows what Dancing with the Stars is, right? It's on that other network. It's not an NBC show. It's it's on that Disney owned network, right? So it's over there. And then the way Mel B's just like, you're that guy, aren't you? It's like Minnesota Ryan: Do you know it? Yeah, guy, I've I know exactly who you are. Yeah. Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: It is it is what you know that show where like tons of celebrities constantly go on all the time and everybody's watched it? Yeah that Cody: Yeah. Yeah. And and your former host went on there and hosted it as well. So it's like and was garbage and was garbage on that show too. So it's like Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Correct. True. That is true. I I forgot about that. True. Also true. Yeah, it is it it is, I suppose, yeah, he just I think he was trying to play a little bit of humble with this. I think that's kind of why it came out that way. but yeah, of course we know what Dancing with the Stars is and and obviously it's a very successful show. Now, we don't watch Dancing with the Stars to listen to the vocal artists. So that is that world where i it is unique. Yeah. It's Cody: Yes. Yes. No. No. I didn't even know there were vocal artists on that show. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: When he said it, it kind of made me go like, huh? But then I'm like, wait, though, they only do live music though on Dancing with the Stars. All the dances are all to live music. So every performer the performers are real artists, but they have to perform it and the people have to dance to the performance of the live music. That's a requirement on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, I think one of the only times they did a recorded, I think they had one time in the past had Nelly come on and he was allowed to record something that he sang for the night that he danced it, and they played it for him as he danced it. Cody: okay. Right. okay. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: But other than that, I think it's almost always live show band production. And apparently enough so that Mel B can recognize his voice. So they must repeat, like they must like three, four, or five singers that they repeat through and sing certain songs based on their vocal range. I I suppose you have to be pretty well-versed as a musician to do it though, because unless they have like 30 musicians sitting back there and they can sing anything anytime, like you have to be able to sing different types. Exactly. And it's like it you have to be good enough to not Cody: Got it. 'Cause it's a wide range of yeah, it's a wide range of songs. Yeah. Good. Minnesota Ryan: really just trash the song, because you could really trash the dance if you did it wrong, but you also want to be so good that you distract from the dancers, cause obviously it's supposed to be about the dancers. So I suppose you have to have this middle niche type voice, which is perfect, which obviously he's done well enough to be recognized, but still maybe not enough to be a solo performer. but he comes out, and yes, obviously Mel B recognizes him. Mel B is pretty much fawning over him this entire type of performance from front to back, which we'll have a discussion after on if that's justified or not. Cody: It would not have surprised me if she just hit the golden buzzer immediately. Minnesota Ryan: Same. S exactly. i I I totally agree with you. he decides to be ambitious with his choice of song. And he decides he wants to sing Dream On from from our from Aerosmith. A song that can can make or break vocal artists on on singing shows if you do it wrong. and so I d do we have a clip for him of singing? Perfect, let's play that here. Cody: Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Me it's impr it that is a hard song to sing. And and he sang it well. He d he sang it very well. It it's almost though I looked at that and went, you know, that does sound kinda like Steven Tyler. Which is exactly if you're a dancing with a star singer, how you'd exactly want to sing it. Sound like the original artist and make it and not have the audience recognize it's different. It's it it's impressive. He's a great singer, but obviously this his it isn't necessarily his vocal talent which brings the controversy to him right now. It's all about how he sang this. So one thing we're not gonna be able to show in the clip that we just showed. We wanna show his voice, which is very, very good. It's how he performs it, which rubs both like Simon and Howie the wrong way. He's up there, he's performing it, right? So he's he looks it depends on the person. Mel liked it, but Howie and Simon are saying that it looked like he had practiced this in the mirror, and every time he did any motion, it looked like he had practiced it, and it was all like by script. There's a moment he like dramatically pulls off his glasses and throws him to the side and does like a smouldering stare to the audience. And apparently that really, really bothered Simon and how he as he did that, but Mel loved every bit of it. He's definitely playing to the crowd with this song. Now, it's I think in a way, I think his the him doing that slightly drew some attention away from his vocal talent. Cause like he is a very talented singer, but most of the conversation did not come around his sing. It was had almost nothing to do with his vocal talent. It had about how he sang it and his vibe, which was the part that they had more negative comments about here and there. What did you think of Mr. Travis when you first heard? Cody: Yeah, I think I was I think I was too much in my head about him being on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, that that other show that's over there on that Disney O network. I think I was too much in my head like, well this guy's already kind of on a reality show performing. I mean, I know he's kind of maybe a background and people not know who he is, but I think I was too focused on that. I think Minnesota Ryan: What sh what's that show? I never heard of it. Mm-hmm. Cody: what we've the clip we've just heard, I mean it's really impressive him singing those high notes. I feel like I saw a headline that like this was the highest note ever on AGT, which doesn't sound right. I don't think that sounds right. Christina Ray, Jackie Ivanko, I mean some of those sing those female singers surely are we we always got like the Mariah note on a lot of these singers, so I don't think that that was right, but I didn't really dig into it much. but it's still impressive for a guy to do that. Minnesota Ryan: Really good. Yeah. I don't know. No no no. Christ Christina Ray is high note when she gotta go and buzzer feud. There's no way. Yeah, there no way. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Cody: with the range he was singing tenor and then all of a sudden him to do that was still really good. I don't know y I was so focused on the dancing with the stars thing most the performance, I didn't even notice like the way his stage presence, like what he was doing on the stage until Howie and Simon talked about it. And I'm like, okay. Okay. And then I got to thinking we had that I think it was it last year, maybe the year before, who was it that the the group or the the guy that sang Minnesota Ryan: Performance. Yeah. Cody: last year that would sing cover songs, but like that was his thing? Like he was Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like and and Jay made the argument that, hey, if that's your thing that you're gonna sing the songs exactly like they sing them, then that's part of your talent. And so it I was like, okay, whatever. and so maybe that's kind of what he's doing is he wants to mimic Minnesota Ryan: Sandoval? Tom Sandoval? Is it him? Okay. Cody: Steven Tyler with how he sings and then he's gonna come out next time and mimic another singer. I we'll have to see. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Right. I I was also conflicted. I also didn't see much of the performance that Simon and Howie were talking about. I really like yeah, okay, sure, the glasses moment up. But like, we're watching AGT, first of all, and and he's coming from a Dancing with the Stars production where they are doing performances and big motions. He sees it on an everyday basis. Exactly. So I'm like, I when I he took his glasses off, I went, Okay, I see what he's trying to do. But like I may have not been swooned by it, apparently like Mal B was, but at the same time I wasn't Cody: Yeah. Right. They choreograph everything on that show. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: bothered inherently. And I I wonder if like Howie and Simon thought he was being fake, that his humbleness was fake, and that's why they kind of were a little bit harsh on him with those comments. Do we have any of those comments, like particularly any one of them? Yeah, let's play one of Let's honestly just do both and we'll talk about it after. Yep. Cody: Yep, we have Melbees and Howie's. Yep. Okay, well here's howys. And then here's Mel Beast. Minnesota Ryan: It's like you have two very different perspectives on the same act. The one thing I always bring up is that they we just talked about how they told Cameron, our magician, that he wasn't big enough. He didn't do enough. He didn't use enough of the stage. And now they're telling a vocal act, we just want you to we don't want you to do anything big. We just want you to sing and be in the moment. So I'm like, right? So I'm just like, I I don't know if just Howie and Simon just didn't like him. And then that's where all that was that that's where all these comments came from. But it definitely felt like we had like a this was one of the most split judge panels I think we had. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yet. You use too much of the stage. It's like yeah. Minnesota Ryan: of the day on like what they thought of him. And I think we weren't even talking that much about his talent, his actual singing. It was all about other stuff on the stage. but he did eventually, ultimately, get voted through. he got three yeses. He got a no from Howie. so there's another one of our three one votes through. I I do think we'll see him again. I think that they they definitely I think they want him on the show. So I do do think he'll make the live shows past this point and everything then we'll give see a chance to sing him again. And I don't know, is he yeah is he wanting to be his own vocal artist or is he just gonna sing covers? Well I guess we'll find out. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: what he does next. The one thing I'll say with him, which makes him unique, he has a decent following with the Dancing with the Stars crowd. And I know we've had a lot of conversations in the past about like, does previous followers matter for AGT success? I usually say no, it doesn't, because usually the people that cheer them on on the social media d aren't voters and aren't watchers of AGT. The Dancing with the Stars crowd is a different crowd. They're people that adamantly watch weekly things and vote on stuff. They're used to this. Cody: Of course. Minnesota Ryan: And there is a genuine world where if those crowds decided they wanted to watch American Idol or want to watch Amer American any American other show, American Idol, this voice, that they could put votes in for a person they cared about. So I do wonder if he's gonna be an exception to his talent level per versus his virality because his followers actually are voting followers. I think that may actually matter, but we'll find out. It's good, he's a unique test subject for me this year to see if if the if the Dancing with the Stars crowd can't get him votes. then no followers will ever get anybody votes just by being a follower. That's how I at least stand with it. but anything else you want to say on Mr. Travis? Yeah, go for it. Cody: Yeah. Okay. Okay. just my final thought. normally in auditions, a singer will have and I don't know if you've noticed this, they'll have the two monitors, the two stage monitors there for the singers. 'Cause for auditions, there's so many singers they don't give them the in ear monitors. He had in ear monitors. And so it made me like, did he get some special like did he get the did the get did he get the did he get the Grace Van der Waal white microphone treatment? It's like did he bring his own system and they let him have Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think it's probably his own. I Cody: Getting air monitors? I Minnesota Ryan: I kinda feel like he would have had his own mold for the outside ear because with Dancing with the Stars we'd have it and maybe they was adapted with his equip with their equipment and they were able to like update it to theirs. Because the expensive part's the mold on the ear. So if if he has his own for Dancing with the Stars, then he might have been able to like detach that and bring it with and do his performance. That would be my guess. But yeah, maybe maybe he did. Maybe maybe they did want to give him some special treatment to get some of the Dancing with the Stars fans to cheer for him and be there and g make sure he was better. Who knows, right? You never know what production wants behind the scenes and like Cody: Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Whether they're gonna give someone a white microphone like Grace Vanderwall or stuff like that. but okay, perfect. let's move on from Travish here and let's get to Abresh, Abresh, Abresh, I think it's Abresh here. he is our balancing actor, 33-year-old from Ethiopia. he's been doing his balance style act for longer than 10 years. and he's basically gonna do we've seen a variation of this act before, but he's gonna do it his own unique way. I wanna bring this up because this is relevant. So the song he's performing to is called Hope by NF. It is actually the same song that Brent Street danced to when they got their golden buzzer. So this thing popped on, I instantly had good memories. I'm like, are we gonna get a gold buzzer act here? we're not. But like I was happy to see this song used again because I do think it's a really good performance song for certain acts. I was happy to see that. But he gets up. I'll try to explain this best way I can. He's already standing naturally on an elevating platform. Cody: Of course they did. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: platform you can raise electronically that goes up in the air and all of his act is gonna happen on this elevating platform. He then places other platforms on top of the elevating platform and then it's gonna proceed to balance on it. And the way I like to best describe his act is he's gonna take a flat object, put it on top of a round object, and then balance on top of the flat object so he's never gonna have a stable base at any point in time throughout the entire show. He starts really basically with just a basketball. He kind of takes like a flat board. He stands on a board, he balances on a basketball. He spins around in a circle to show he's got control. At the beginning, he honestly looks like he's maybe trying to flare it up like he doesn't have control a little bit, just to give showmanship and stuff like that. He finishes basketball trick and then he kind of places almost what looks like a thick PVC piping on the bottom. And then now he's gonna start kind of his big thing, which he's gonna c start placing these almost step stool platforms on top of each other while he's standing on them. So he literally is balancing and constantly rotating back and forth on this PVC pipe thing below him, but then he's placing another platform below himself and then stepping up on top of that platform. It's the one thing I like to say, we don't get to see it great from the angle we're watching it. He is actually placing that on the thing he's standing on. He's not placing it in front of the thing he's standing on. He has to actually step up on something that is in the space he's standing on. It's actually really, really hard to do that. And he almost messes up once while he's doing it. Cody: Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: But he has to slip this thing underneath his foot on the platform he has and then make a quick shift up to the next board. I think he does like four or five of these, and then he's like way up in the air. Then they trigger the raising platform and he gets even higher up in the air. He's almost as close up to the X's on the top of the stage. He's super high up. Then they lower him back on down. He does a big showman finish. and then that is his kind of balanced-based act. What do you think of Mr. Bresh here? Cody: Mm-hmm. I love these types of acts. I love these Rolla Bolo type acts. There's there's actual danger there. There's so much skill involved in these. The the difficulty and the trickery involved to do this type of act is absolutely incredible. And I think he did some things we probably haven't seen before. I don't think we've seen the basketball before. If we have it's been a rare, but normally it's the tube, like you explain. So Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: A lot of them do the tube. The basketball isn't is an infrequent thing, so love that. And then him stacking things on top of there to make that center of gravity. I mean the the center of gravity just goes nuts the higher you make these things. And then raising the platform. Now raising the platform, I mean just it moving adds a little bit to it, but it's not a lot other than him actually being higher up in the air. But just having all those different items that he has to continuously stack on top of and basically climb to get Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: I'm a huge fan of the Rolla Bolo act. I think this is great. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. very happy to see this on AGT. Very fun to watch this. it's i I think with this type of act it never feels like the same thing because it is just so impressive. You just almost don't want to believe that somebody can do something like this. So you just you kinda make it new again in your brain. I always will wonder if the danger aspect of this turns away some viewers. like I know like my mom doesn't like the suspense of Balance Act like this, so she won't always watch them. So that's always gonna be the like one caveat is how much viewership are they actually gonna get compared to other acts. But I think everybody loves the Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: The showmanship of a type act like this. And everybody appreciates the talent of an of an act like this. Now, they did say the judges were very adamant that he was shaky at the beginning. I don't know how much it was meant to be that way. It was meant to look that way because he's just talented as trying to make it look like he's out of control, or how much of it was actually he had moments where he was out of control. But they definitely make a point to mention that he looked like he was shaky, he looked like he was gonna fall off. Like that was a big part of it, and almost to the point where even Simon said he doesn't know if this is gonna scale well. maybe even being a little Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: worried that he doesn't have maybe the talent to upgrade it to the way it needs to be bigger to win the show. So Simon actually never gave a yes or no on this act. it ended up just doing the three yeses because Mel just jumped him and said, No, you get three, move on. and then we never really got Simon's full opinion. But Simon was a little bit questioning of this act as he was going through it. Cody: Ha ha. Yeah, we've had success in this type of act. Of course, Christian Stoyev, friend of the pod, Christian Stoynev, was one of the big ones that did this back in the day. He got to the semis. Of course he had Scooby with him, he had a dog act with him to to add to it. So it it can be scalable. It's it's doable. So it'll be interesting to see how he does it. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does next. And it's always you're always fun to watch. I'm I'd rather have more of this going on than just a ton more singers, like we get every single year. So I'm I'm happy he's on the show. anything else you want to Cody: Mm. Yep. Yeah. And with being a balancing any with being a balancing act, he can do other things. It's he's not just limited to this. So right. Yep. Yes. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. Like he'll add fire, he'll add something. There's something there that'll make it extra fun. So no, I'm I'm ha I'm excited. I'm happy he's on the show. So he'll be fun to watch in the next round. anything else you want to say on Mr. Ubbrush here? Perfect. We're gonna move. This a gonna have a quick one here. Nathan Noah, I think it's Suji Suji. A very, very quick they show him in the background. he is a hand he's a handstand guy that's like a hand balancer. And they ask him, Do you think you can do you get a million dollars with your act? And he goes, The way that I do it, I a hundred percent can. And then he proceeds to balance on his hands and take off his clothes with his feet. So that is his entire act, is just removing his clothes while he's balancing on his hands with his feet. Cody: Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: There's not really mu they don't show us much more than that. We get this clip for like twenty to thirty seconds. he d he doesn't get voted through. Is there anything else you want to say on Mr. Nathan? just a quick show. Yeah. Cody: Nope. Nope. Minnesota Ryan: Let's move on to our first comedian of the night, Mr. Daniel Alvarez. Now, he's got for the for the viewers that aren't haven't actually watched AGT and are going for this, he his look is a big part of his act here, okay? he is a comedian that is currently based out of a wheelchair who really wanted a f to find a new purpose in his life. So he tells a story of how in 2007 he got into a Gunshot accident. A gunshot injury. We don't exactly know what was like an altercation or an accidental fire. We don't really get that, but he got a gunshot injury that he ended up hurting his spinal cord at the T3 to T4 level. for people that don't have a good idea of where that is, that is basically where your chest is. So take your like nipple line, that's where T3 and T4 sits. So that means everything below that point he has no feeling and no motion or no ability to do. So he can use his arms. Could use his head, he could use anything above his chest, but anything below that completely can't use it, can't feel it, can't do anything with it. he talked about how he went through a lot of struggles with that. He didn't know what to do with his life. He basically couldn't move and he wanted to find some purpose, something worth his time to go do. So he picked up comedy. That was his way of trying to make light of a situation that was hard for him, which I love that concept in general. So he's taking something and making it a positive in his life, and he's gonna share that positivity with others. his and he's a so he's a comedian. His entire set is basically based around how his accident happened and his current condition. So he's one of those comedians that uses his current situation to make the comedy that he has. I want you all to think of like like a Josh Blue in the old days. He you all of his jokes were about his condition and him. So we're allowed to laugh as f as like an audience because he's making fun of himself and he's giving us the ability to do that. But his comedy is definitely material-based, definitely gray area-based. Cody: Yes. Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: and he is gonna be very dependent on his jokes on kind of whether people laugh to them or not and how uncomfortable or comfortable we feel with the jokes he's making. do we I don't think we have any clips on him or not, but what did you think of Mr of Mr. Daniel? I'll have a coup I have a couple like his jokes I can kind of explain here, but what did you think just in first up with him? Cody: We don't. No. Yeah. Yeah. I I enjoyed him and I immediately like when I heard he was a comedian, I'm like, ha ha comedians with disabilities do well on this show. So yeah, Josh Blue, Ryan Niemiller, Drew Lynch have all done well on this show. it's it's a very I think it's a very easy area to kind of make fun of, if if that makes sense. Minnesota Ryan: They do. Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cody: there's a lot of content there to kind of tell jokes for. So he's gotta make sure he delivers it well though. You still gotta deliver the you still gotta deliver the jokes. I think he did a fine job with it. I think he did pretty good. It wasn't, you know, it's not Josh Blue or or Ryan Niemuler level, but I think there's something there. We've got a few good comedians this year and they're gonna be battling it out. We're gonna have to pick one. Cause I don't think we're gonna get based on commenters' latest blog post. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. He Cody: It's not likely we're gonna get more than one comedian in the final. So we're gonna have to find one and pick one. so he's got work to do to kind of work up to Kev Kev Adams. I think is is kind of the leader in that in the in the pack right now for comedians. But I like him. I think he's good. There's something there. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Kev Adams, yep. I I love his personality, I love his type of what he's doing is so incredibly cool to show off, even if he doesn't do well, just to show people how to take a situation that's very dark and bad and turn it into something fun and give joy. I think I love that concept. He is not an experienced comedian. And that is the clearest thing with him. He's probably the least experienced comedian of the crew that we've seen so far. because he really like you can tell he's trying out jokes. He's never known if people are gonna laugh at these or not. And he can some of his jokes hit really well, some of them don't. And so he's definitely like throwing out material and it's gonna be very dependent on how he gives out that presentation for how well he's gonna do. Cody: Right. Minnesota Ryan: to give you kinda a couple examples of kinda what I mean, one of his first jokes he's he's talking about how he got shot and he's like and he's like, you know, getting shot's not very funny. Like we we don't we that's not a good thing. However, I was dressed as Spider-Man when I got shot and my Spidey senses weren't tingling. so therefore that's what made it funny. He kinda kinda sets it up that way, which is funny inherently. I would like a little bit of a change on kind of the delivery part of it, because once you bring up gunshots, you get people don't laugh. 'Cause it's not a it's not a happy thing. We actually got told I used to do improv a lot in the day, and we were always told in training, don't bring up violence, don't bring up guns, because it's inherently not funny, and people will tend to preserve themselves and protect themselves off. So that's an area if he's gonna continue this type of humor. I want it to be more about him in the wheelchair than about the accident that he had with a gun. I think he'll have better success there. I loved his joke when he talked about how he applied to be a rock climbing instructor and he would tell and he said he would he would tell the trainees that it'd be like, This is what happens if you mess up. Like That I love that type of comedy. I want more of that from him because I think he'll do better if he goes that route. but I kinda called him a a gray area comedian. He is that if he can do those gray area people that hit that like line, when they do it well, they're incredibly successful. But the challenge of it, you go one too far and you lose the room with a joke that's not good, you're gonna lose all of your entire s set. So it's gonna be about he has to refine his comedy and refine his presentation. But I'm excited to see I agree with you. There's a lot of good comedians this year. Cody: Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: But which one will rise above, I'm not sure yet. And it's gonna be intriguing to see kind of what happens next for each of them. But he obviously judges love him. Judges were dying of laughter with him. They they really did love him. he got four yeses, obviously, as expected, and and is gonna move on through. And again, we're likely gonna see him again in the future for sure. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yes. think having the judges' callbacks is gonna help the comedians this year. It's gonna give them that extra round to kinda yep, we'll work on that work on that act a little bit more. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Exactly. More time. Exactly. And I like I I don't need a comedian to win, but I would like to see one make the finals and be a good one. It's just a it's a category we need to see more of. We need to inspire more people to come on and do. So it'd be nice to have one of them succeed. And I do think more time, more experience, don't just throw into the quarterfinals where only three acts make it through and say, Good luck. Like it'd be nice to give them some time to get a a stage presence and a fan base and stuff like that to have a chance. but anything else you want to say, Mr. Daniel? Perfect. Cody: That's right. Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: Let's move on to our very quickly, because they are funny and worth talking about. Jack and Haley are comedy country duo that comes out. they are man and woman here. they are gonna come out and they are gonna dedicate their song to Howie. and the whole judge panel, mostly Mel, is like, why? And Howie's like, because they're smart. They know exactly what they're doing. And immediately when they start singing, their first line is, Why do men care about the size of their c car? Cody: Ha ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: And then they proceed to sing an entire song that's all about innuendos about the size of a man's substance. and that is the entire act. they clarify how size really doesn't matter, and it comes down to the driver, and that their your truck is big enough if you want it to be. and it's basically just a big parody country song to make us laugh. It has absolutely no seriousness to it. How he's like now like maybe they're not smart and is completely taking back every word he said at the beginning and actually is gonna end up buzzing them in the middle of their performance. Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: They are pretty much just a fun random skit based act that we got in the middle. Anything you specifically want to say on Mr. Jack and Haley here? Exactly. No. No, I I would be stu I would be stunned. but you never know. perfect. Okay, we officially I'm excited. We have made it to our final act of the night. and that is Mr. Neil and Mr. Brian. I call the Glitter Boys. they are my pride and joy here from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Cody: No, they're fun. I like but I don't I don't know if we'll see again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: And they are here to sing a song to the Golden Buzzer itself. their story, a little bit of their background, they met in college their freshman year and they've been best friends ever since. They want to again dedicate an original song that they wrote that is dedicated to the Golden Buzzer, because the Golden Buzzer never gets appreciation. It does so much help for everybody else, but it never gets appreciated itself. when Simon asked them, or I think it was Simon, when they were asked if they if their act was better than the previous act we just saw. The country duo, they pause for a moment and go, Yeah? And then and then proceed to then walk off the stage, and the judges are left going, I think this one's gonna be good. You know, last act of the night. They think it's gonna be better, they're gonna dedicate a song, Golden Buzzer. It's gotta be good. They return to the stage with a very different, very positive, fun, almost kidlike energy to the stage, and they're wearing these like matching shirts that say like K O O almost spells coo. It's probably the group that they're a part of. We don't get a lot of information on that. but they come out and they're like We're gonna sing a song called Glitter. Guess what it's about? It's about glitter. And every time we say the word glitter, we want you audience to to sing glitter. Make sense? And then they start doing their song. I don't even want to over-explain this. I just want you to play the gli the clip of one of my favorite songs so far. Cody: Oops. Minnesota Ryan: other one, yeah. Is this the one? There we go. And just like that we have our Parmesan song of the year. Cody: That's exactly what I thought. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: my goodness. I I I love that these guys are from Minnesota. It's just like, yep, this this is what we're representing today. This is what we're bringing to the show. it's an incredibly catchy song. like I I it's it's you wanna sing it, you wanna get on board. this is obviously not an act meant to be incredible singing. This is not an original song that's gonna break boundaries and whatever. And it you they make that very clear right away. This is entirely an act to just get the audience into it and for everybody to laugh. Cody: Yes. It is. Minnesota Ryan: and smile. I think at one point in time they emerge on the stage and they have like a big glittery tarp and they're like, I'm the glitter monster. It's like I just I this type of comedy is right up my alley. Like I love this world. yeah. Cody: Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's it's very similar like a Sethwer type thing, yeah, and like Ben Lapitas and the Parmesan, like you said. Yeah. so they have they have their own wiki. Cook cuckoo. Cuckoo. Build is an interactive dance party duo. Minnesota Ryan: So that's what it is. Okay. Cody: And described as the Beastie Boys meets Sesame Street. Minnesota Ryan: They're not wrong. man. I I think the most fun part of this performance was watching Simon go from utter bewilderment to genuinely can't get this song out of his head and is now a giant supporter of these two. Cody: Yes. Yeah. I think he had the Parmesan realization as well. Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yep. Yep. I I love these guys. I I I mean, we were I don't think they they do a little snippet at the end where they go like, what would happen if we hit the golden buzzer and this song plays every time, you're gonna reenact it, and the whole show they were using this as the precursor that Simon was gonna get another golden buzzer, but it actually was just this moment. but so they do it again, they're like fake hit the golden buzzer, they single it, and it just becomes a whole big way to end the show. I I enjoyed this ending. I like I was I was happy how this ended. Obviously, no, these guys are not gonna be a big presence on AGT in terms of competing on the show. But may they may they maybe become another Seth word, another yeah, Ben Lapitas. Maybe we just hear the main. I hope we get a golden buzzer in the future that this plays. Like please. Right. that would be amazing. But there isn't really too much more to talk about. We just I just wanted to listen to glitter again and share my love of them. Cody: Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. These guys need to get royalties for every time that happens, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So your your your assignment now, since you're from the great city of Minneapolis, is to get them on the pod. Minnesota Ryan: Th no, that that's pretty much it. Five goodness. I can reach out. maybe I should send them a mail that has some glitter in it. And it just pop poop. Yeah, that's gonna look bad. That looks terrible. I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. I'll get these guys. Don't worry. I'm gonna find them. We gotta sing together on the pod. Glitter. It's gotta happen. But that is Auditions 5. The episode ends with literally Simon walking back to his trailer going, glitterrrr. So Cody: Yes. No, don't do that. Don't do that. That's no. Okay. Ha Minnesota Ryan: Clearly got him. but fun episode. I did enjoy this episode. I thought on comparison to the other episodes that I've watched, this was one of my I preferred this episode over a lot of the other auditions episodes. I got we thought we got a lot more quality acts out of this episode than the others. Even though we only really did get one golden buzzer, I actually thought we a lot of quality out of this. So I didn't know if you have any general thoughts on just total auditions five, anything from it. Cody: Mm-hmm. No, I I enjoyed it. I thought it was a very fun episode. It had a had a variety. It had these guys. It had all kinds of stuff. A lot of things that I was just in engaged in. even with a guy that was on Dancing with the Stars and I was too focused with on that. Most of the stuff I was kind of engaged in most of the episode. So yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, no, I totally agree. This was this was a nice pleasant surprise to to be the one I I was h I told my brother, I was like, I'm happy I'm talking on this one. This is a fun one to chat about today and has a lot of cool things to talk about. Perfect. Well, then if we'll wrap up auditions five here, the general, general kind of review here. The next step will be to kind of talk about some stats here. Cause it wouldn't be me peering on pod without doing a little bit of Ryanalytics here, and just bring, I guess, the listener base here into what we're seeing from the acts this season. Now I did not have enough time to review every single act of the season and do all of the specific things of each act. So I didn't like I pretty much did the Golden Buzzers and a couple very specific acts from this audition night that I wanted to bring up that were relevant to the kind of the future of the show. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So to start off to wrap up auditions five, there were two acts I told you we were gonna come back to. it was Godfrey, and it was gonna come back to Nay Nay a little bit here, okay? Cody: Yep. This is just a mini a mini version of of Rye Analytics. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: So starting off with Nene, I went and collected. She's only been on the social media platforms now for about 24, barely over 24 hours when I was collecting statistics, because she's the most recent episode. They did Instagram first, they posted that first. Then they did YouTube later on a little bit later, but I collected the stats from her specifically. On a case, if you were to guess, do you think she is a viral act type viral type of act, or do you think she's more of a casual act? Or do you think she's gonna perform better on one platform or the other? What do you think when you looked at her act, what you think she was gonna do? Cody: I think she's gonna perform better on like TikTok than probably the others. And I don't think it's gonna be viral, I think it's a casual Well, she might be viral in like Asia, like Titan so there's probably a lot of people that have watched her over in Asia, be my guess. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. Well, I after some research, I I looked at her Instagram. and I remember I for to remind everyone how I Ryanalytics, I look at AGT's specific platform. So I go to their Instagram, I go to their YouTube, and I look at the clip they posted for a particular artist in the same way as every single other one. Because I want to compare them as objectively as possible. Her clip went viral not only on Instagram, but it also went viral on YouTube almost simultaneously, almost immediately. So she has Cody: Wow. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Currently on Instagram, within a day, she has 6.6 million views. I mean, it is incredible. In a single day, and she's still rising. I checked this morning. She has over 501,000 likes on that same clip. So people are not only watching, they're liking it. I haven't seen this much success on it. It's only two acts have ever raised this much this fast. One was Astrid, which obviously we never got the full tell on what that would be because she just didn't come on the show. but we never know. But the other one was Ronnie and Rhythm. Cody: Okay. Mm-hmm. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: And we do know that Ronnie and Rhythm made it all the way to second place on their show. So Instagram can sometimes be a very good marker for acts, their surprise acts that can get people. But I'm like, maybe she's just an Instagram act. Maybe that's it. Went over to YouTube when they finally posted it. She already has over a million views. She is already past every single other act on the show, even though they've been going on for about three, four weeks ahead of her. Like, she is the most viral clip right now. Again, we'll get to a listener question later. We will re-answer this question. We get to there. Cody: Wow. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: She is the viral act of the current season of what we have right now. her YouTube views, again, when I looked, they were at 890,000 with 48,000. Her likes are already higher than every other thing. At that time, she's already doubled that since we've even started this show. so it is she's she is very much popping around everywhere. and apparently she has a decent following. She's been doing this for quite some time. Remember, I said she looked experienced. Like a lot of the comments like, I'm so happy to see her finally get appreciation. Like she has a fan base that's there. Cody: Okay. Okay. Wow. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: So I'm excited to see what her next step looks like and to see is she like every other solo guitarist that sometimes as well and then fizzles out, or is she something different that we haven't seen before? Can she finally take a category that hasn't been as successful and make it successful? We'll be really intriguing to see. Now, I say all this to say, she was not the most viral clip on Instagram on this night. That goes to our good friend Godfrey. So, remember when I said he was a lot like Elastic, where he has this one big clip that was incredibly popular and then that we might never hear from again? Well, I was stunned to see that on Instagram, Godfrey had 8.2 million views. Right? And now, like variation, very different, right? So we talked about how Nene being actually a respected artist had over 500,000 likes. Godfrey only had 153,000. So the like count way less, kinda we see, but that whatever reason, his balloon-catching act. Cody: Yes. Holy cow. Minnesota Ryan: Just went viral on Instagram. Now it's doing horrible on YouTube. So this is obviously not an act that's gonna be anything more than that. But whatever reason the Instagram crowd has, they love these simple, singular, like random acts that create a fun joke, because that's exactly what Elastic did last year. But yeah, so actually Godfrey had the most views on the night on Instagram over every single act, which is you never would guess that, right? any questions on both those two? Cody: Incredible. Wow. It's interesting that people are saying for a fifteen year old, it's it's about time she got her recognition at fifteen. It's like Minnesota Ryan: Right? With that's when I saw those comments, I was surprised too, because I'm like, how long has she been doing this? Apparently in her community, she's actually a local figure. Like she's one of their constant artists that always performs live and a lot of them they know her. And I've seen even some comments saying that like the fans of her say she barely touched the surface on her H T performance of what she can do. So who knows if that's just fan talk? You can sometimes get overhype of fan talk. but like it it doesn't sound like she just picked this up. Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: And decide to do this with her current dream. It sounds like this has been something that she's been doing this for a while. And even though she's 15, she's gonna be acting way more experienced when she performs than your typical 15-year-old. But it'll be intriguing to see what she does next. And who knows? She could fizzle out right away. But I just I when I go to the viral part of it, she's definitely the highlight, the star for me of like that seems really different than every other act that's performed. let's get to now, I I per your request, I went and grabbed all the golden buzzers, and I wanted this year to see if we could find trends in the current golden buzzers. I felt in general, watching the Golden Buzzers this year, I felt underwhelmed. I don't know what your guys' opinions have been. I haven't been able to like talk with you straight up about all of them. But just in general this year, I always sound like each of these golden buzzers feel a little underwhelming. There's only been a couple that I think I've truly like stood out a little bit. but I it doesn't feel like last year where we had, you know, a Jessica that appeared. It doesn't feel like we have this like one sole contender that appeared. So I wanted to see if the numbers matched what we saw. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: So we'll play a fun little game here. I can we'll just quickly review the golden buzzers that have appeared to kind of refresh your memory here. So we have from episode one, we have Leigh, who is the 14-year-old girl who sang a lot, looked down a lot older than she sang. we have Luke, who is the rapper from Miami. He was also episode one. we have the Acro Canine crew, which was Terry's dog, dirt girl dancing golden buzzer. we have Sergeant Isaac Atkins, who was the male army singer that Melby's buzzer that she gave. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: We have Lara D, who was the other kind of kid singer who really wanted to be a superstar as well. She was episode two. we have Ruben from ep episode four. I'm pretty sure he was the one one-legged parkour artist that we had. we had Hundred Fingers, who is the returning guy who came back and did the magic act with the group of people. we had McKen Yes, yes, exactly. and then we had McKenzie Soul from episode four as well. He was the, I think, X Factor. Cody: Yep, you hose in. Yeah, you yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Singer that's now back on. I think also was Mel B's golden buzzer as well. And then we have Royal Lasers from this most recent thing. So those are our nine golden buzzers. So we only have one more to really get if they don't add one, which they always could. but we have only one more, so that's we're pretty close to where it stands. Hearing those out, is there one that you would think we'll start with YouTube. Is there one that you think would perform really well on YouTube, or you think would be like the standout on YouTube of that? Cody: Yes. I feel like it's gonna be one of the singers just because of the the male B factor. Probably, you know, Luke or McKenzie or Isaac. I I think it's one of the male singers. Minnesota Ryan: Okay. You're I I'm happy you're I can tell Cody you're listening to when we do these stats. You're you're really picking up it. Yes, it is the singers. We we had this conversation last year where the singers do incredibly well on YouTube. They always have done well. there isn't a clear favorite. So this is where I said I kinda asked what you think, because there is there's kind of different stats they each succeed in across the board, but the singers are dominating the YouTube platform right now. In views, the number one most viewed is Lei. Now again, a little bit of asterisk on here. She performed episode one. Cody: Okay. Yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: So, how much of that is that she is the most viewed versus she's had the most time, but she does have 2.2 million views. so it is very well viewed so far. And she has 34,000 likes on her video. That is third place. So she's most viewed, third most liked. However, her ratio, because of how many views she had compared to likes she got, her ratio falls at again, ratio is where I take their likes and divide it by their view count and look to see on average what percentage of people will like a video when they view it. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: She's at 1.5%. That actually ranks last. So, right? So the question is, like, okay, she's viewed the most. She does, she has the third most likes, but proportionally, when people view her, she's actually the least liked of the people who on YouTube who've who've viewed her. Cody: Wow, okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. She's so far out in front on her views that it's it's messing up her her ratio. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. Exactly. So I don't know what to do with her on those numbers, cause like the first two she should be great, but the last one she's last place. Who knows? The other one that's doing really well, another kid singer, Laura D's doing really well. So she has one point eight million views. So she's third place on views, but she's leading likes. So she has forty thousand likes. So her ratio's much better. She's two point two percent on there. She's first place. So she's first place ratio, first place likes, and third place views. So if you were to ask me, I would say that Laura's probably your number one. Cody: Okay. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: of the YouTube category because when you have both likes and ratio, like the usually statistically you're a good act that people appreciate across the board from what we've seen in the past. But it's not too far off. you are right the other the I think it's right here I got McKenzie. McKenzie's doing really well on YouTube as well. He is your clear shot second place. So it like depending on what stat you look at, he is second place in everything. He's one point nine million views, thirty six thousand likes, one point nine percent ratio. So he is two, two, and two. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: So no matter who you pick as one, he's two as your next one. and then from there, yeah. Cody: Yeah. So it's it it's it's well it's interesting in that because everything that I've seen it's like this was a crappy golden buzzer. And so I guess people are going and like trying to check out to see why like what's the big deal with him? Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yep. Yeah. There's always a world. I know we talked last year on how YouTube is kind of the place people go back to rewatch things to kind of relearn what they missed. And so sometimes that view count can be a harder measure of good acts. And only times we highlight an act is when you get a Jessica type explosion. So when you get an act that shoots through the roof like that, now you're looking at something that's relevant. But otherwise, like I always tend to sit more on like count and ratio when it comes to YouTube because of that rewatch factor. So again, I still go to Mackenzie though. Cody: Yes. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: He's still second place on likes and second place on ratio. So it's like, yes, people are going back and rewatching him, maybe because they want to see if he's good, but people are liking his act. even more than what we've seen from Lei. Like n not as much as Lara, but like still more than we've seen from Lei. and then I think I have on here, let's go to your other prediction was Isaac. Isaac's doing all right. So he's 966,000 views and sixteen thousand likes. Those are both fifth place for both. and then he ratio is 1.7%. It's pretty close, but he is seventh place of nine on ratio. So he is your strong center of the pack. Right in the middle. kind of we we saw this same trajectory last year with like Mamaduke and stuff like that, where they were just solidly in the middle of things constantly and never were top or bottom until the very end, right? So that is where I'd place him as well. I don't know if he'll stand out above the other singers. The only thing I can see is that because he is a military. Cody: Okay. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Person that may give him a nice bump. So we'll we'll see where we go from there. those are the vocal artists. and they are pretty much leading the way of of the board. The next one that kind of stands out above the vo like you take your vocal artist on YouTube, then you go to your next one. It's hundred fingers, so it's your magic act. they are exactly they're 1.4 million views on YouTube, they are 24,000 likes. That is fourth place for both. ratio could be a little better, but it's it's kind of like there's a three-way tie. So I don't like it too. Cody: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. A lot of people love hundred figures. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Like they're sixth place on ratio of nine, but they're more like there's a tie for four through six. so they're right in the middle as well with ratio. They're dead center four. I would put them on these YouTube stats four across the board in everything that we see. the Royal Lasers, it's I can't predict Royal Lasers yet. Give an asterisk to everybody. They just performed. There's no stats on YouTube yet. Exactly. So they're of course gonna be ninth on everything. Their ratio is doing all right, but I have to just wait to see what they do going forward. Cody: It they just performed. It's only been twenty four hours. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Our more bottom, clear bottom of the list is Acro Canine crew, Terry's first golden buzzer. yeah, they are YouTube wise. They just honestly across the board wise, they aren't doing super great. they're 568,000 views, and for an episode one act, they're the worst performing of the episode one act, so that's if they've had time, they're just not getting it. they also only have nine thousand, about nine point two thousand likes, that is eighth. Both of those are eighth, so it's last place of the non like episode five acts so far. Cody: man. Interesting. Minnesota Ryan: And their ratio is also one point six percent, so the ratio's not great either. It's Elpho Ace. They're eighth on every category on YouTube. so they are your lowest performers. And then you kinda have this solid grouping of like Luke, who's the rapper from Miami, and Ruben, who's the parkour artist, they kind of have fallen at like fifth through seventh, right in that range on almost every stat for any YouTube metric as well. So like if you look at YouTube, your favorites are the singers, but for the most part the ones I wanna highlight are Laura D, and Mackenzie. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: They're the ones who Cody: Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: are performing very well consistently on the YouTube platform. any questions on any of those? Cody: No, that's it's fascinating stuff and it's interesting with the numbers because just looking at it subjectively, I like the acro crew. I think they're my number one favorite golden buzzer of the season, so and I think it's just because I'm so down on just singers in general. But if I'm looking just at what I enjoy, it's almost like they rise to the top just because the other stuff is to me just not good. But yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Wow, okay. Okay. A hundred percent. Yeah. I I'm kind of with you this year with the Golden Buzzer. I wouldn't say there's like this clear cut favorite. I wouldn't say there's this one that's better. I do think it's preference. And yes, there's singers are more for people out there listening, singers are more likely to be appreciated. So anytime we do these numbers, it's not necessarily that they're better. It's just that people have more respect for the natural art form of singing. So more people are gonna like it and see it and appreciate it. That's why singers always rise to the top on YouTube. So it's not this isn't a measure of ranking these acts. This is just how YouTube is performing them. So we can take a quick metric into there. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: let's talk Instagram. There's not too many other major big things I want to pull from Instagram. so we'll start with our top performing from YouTube was was Lara. she has she's doing decent on Instagram. She has 315,000 views on her most viewed clip. she has 18.2,000 likes. So her view count is sixth. Her like count is third. so she's getting good like when people see her, they're liking her on both platforms. Her ratio is number one. so she's the only act here that's ratio is number one on both Instagram and YouTube. so again, I would put her as statistically virally the number one act of the Golden Buzzer so far because of what I'm seeing. But it's not like she's performing far and away above on both platforms. then we go down to Mackenzie. he is not doing well on Instagram at all. Now, usually Instagram explodes faster, so we see more of a recurrence. I do think he's just not performing well on Instagram. I don't think this is just because he's episode four. think it's just he's he's not an Instagram crowd but he has two hundred and fifty three thousand views and eight point seven thousand likes that is seventh place out of eight on both of those and then he is 3.4% ratio that is sixth on Instagram so he is even though he's performing great on YouTube he is not performing well on Instagram at least at the current moment in time. If we go up to Lei our kind of third fourth place set she is actually probably performing quite better on Instagram I would say than YouTube. She has six hundred and 36,000 views and 26,000 likes. So she's second place on likes, or second second place on views, first place on likes, and her ratio is 4.1%. It is fourth, but it's pretty close. It's it's she's up there. You have a clear cut, like top three virally, on those are that's kind of where you have. And then the fourth one is Hunter Fingers. they are doing much, much better, I would say, on ratio is confusing, but they're actually the most viewed clip for all of them on Instagram. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: So they're number one at 682,000 views. 12,000 likes. They could be better there. They're fourth place on that, which makes their ratio tough. Cause when you're the most viewed, but you're not the most liked, your ratio is gonna be off. So they're actually last place on ratio at 1.8%. But people are watching them. They're getting a lot of visibility on both platforms. So they're probably your top of the non-singers from a statistical standpoint. from there, your bottom, it's the same story. little slight change. Acro crew. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: has a lot of views on Instagram. They're actually third place. They got four hundred and seventy one thousand views. So they're getting viewed a lot. They only have eight point nine thousand likes though, so they're sixth place on likes of the Golden Buzzers, which means their ratio is still last place. So we just talked about how Lara's first place both ratios. They're last place ratio. Yeah. Now again, I don't know if that's talent or that's just the I don't know. These are just numbers. But they they are last place in both ratios on both platforms. That does mean something. So it'll be intriguing to see. Cody: It's so wild. It's so wild. Yeah, fuck. Yeah. Yes. Oof. Okay. Have to adjust my draft strategy there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Ha we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. honestly there's not too much else to say. I would say the only other big really note here, Luke, our rapper from Miami, he performed far better on YouTube, even though he wasn't top tier, but he was far better than he's performing on Instagram. he is the least viewed act of the like non recently performed acts on Instagram. He's at a hundred and eighty five thousand views. And he actually has less likes than our recent laser show. Alright, currently. so like Cody: Okay. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I do think rap is a really hard platform for Instagram because there's a lot of artists who use Instagram with rap. Like I I think a lot of people aren't don't appreciate it as much. So to me, to see Luke succeed, he needs the YouTube crowd and more of your older crowd to appreciate him and the Jordan Blue crowd to help him rather than the Instagram younger crowd. Cause I think he's actually getting hurt by those other platforms right now. Cody: Okay. Okay. Yes. Mm-hmm. That is point. I've forgotten that he is a friend with that he's friends with Jordan Blue. Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. I I that he that's the biggest wild card with him is are the Jordan Blue fans gonna come out. 'Cause those people last year, they made me believe for a small moment that Jessica might be upset just because of how many of fans there were of Jordan Blue out there. They were commenting on everything all over the place. So you never know. but there isn't too much else to tell on that story. I guess the only big thing, Ruben is doing quite well on Instagram, but we tend to see parkour do well in kind of that younger crowd anyway. He has four hundred and forty three thousand views, fourth place, his likes are twenty two point three thousand at Cody: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: That's second place, and his ratio's five percent at and at second place. He's only behind our our top tier act. So it's like honestly, for all you out here, you want me to read these numbers for you. This is telling me there's no clear favorite. Like last year I remember looking at this and going, Jessica's gonna win. Jessica's gonna win. Like she's gonna win, it was just so clear as day. Now I'm looking at this and going, I don't know what to do with this this year. Do you have any thoughts kind of on the general either Instagram or on the general stats? Cody: I I I d I don't. I mean it's it's all fascinating stuff. And if you look at you know, Ruben, if you look at his numbers per limb, he's probably higher than the others. yeah. We're gonna have to do a right analytics page on the website to like show these numbers. So Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. True, true. I can I can I can yeah, if you if you kinda give me kind of what you're thinking, I can collect and kinda have a storage place of the numbers. I'd be I store them all every year. I always have a big folder for I would not mind sharing kind of how I get my numbers, I get my stats, kind of what I see from them. I'd be more than happy to do that. Cody: Yep. We may have to put that together. Let's see what we can do. It's fascinating stuff, Ryan. Minnesota Ryan: Yes. I I will keep you all updated if I see any other trends. Obviously we have still have two auditions nights to go, so like we don't know what's coming. There could still be a majorly viral act that we haven't seen yet that's gonna win the show. I'm pretty sure Chris Turner like an auditions eight or nine act last year. So it just you never know. But at least what we're seeing now, the singers are doing better, but I don't I'm not seeing enough love. 'Cause last year the singers were number one too. Like we saw like every singer was high, and then half of them didn't make it best quarterfinals. So it's like Cody: Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: There isn't a clear cut favorite this year. So I I will say all you listeners out there, anybody can win this year. I really I don't think this is a year where we get like a clear cut. We know exactly who's gonna win at the end of I think we're gonna find out in the live shows, which will be fun. And I will make one bold prediction. My one bold prediction of tonight. I don't think a golden buzzer is winning this year. That is my bold prediction. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. okay. That that's a even with the even with more golden buzzers. Minnesota Ryan: I a I know it's bold and I could very well be wrong and it's very rare to happen. But th last year it was every other year we had a clear favorite, virally. Like a clear purse act that stood out. We do not have one this year, and I've been underwhelmed by the Golden Buzzers. I don't think I'm alone in that in with America. So part of me wonders if even we're getting b golden buzzer backlash and that we might actually get a non golden buzzer to win. I think this is a year like a Ramadani brother slips out of nowhere and then actually can take the show or something like that, you know? Cody: Yeah. No. No, you're not alone. You're not alone. No. Do we actually get a live show Golden Buzzer in the top five this year? Minnesota Ryan: Depends on who they choose. Depends on who they choose. If we're if it's like last year, no. No, no, absolutely not. But because there's so many good acts that didn't get golden buzzers in the auditions, if they give it to an act that is really appreciated, I do think they can propel them to a shot. But we just know I don't think they do the live show Golden Buzzers for the best act of the night. I think they do it to put certain acts in the finals. And so if they continue to do that, no, we're not gonna have one of the top five. But if they actually pick the best act on a night, yeah, absolutely, I think we can maybe propel one. Later. And I, by the way, my prediction does not include live show Golden Buzzers. It just includes right now auditions, Golden Buzzers. I think the winner will not be one of. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I I I I could get on board with that. so due to me getting the right pick in the hot dog contest with Commenter last week, I do get the benefit of making our team's pick. And after talking through this, yeah. Yeah. So st that was the bet was he took the over on Joey Chestnut. I took the under and I got it. Minnesota Ryan: Ooh. Ooh. I g okay, I love this. That commoner's gotta be probably on his edge of his seat. This is fun. Cody: So I get to make the first pick. Having known this now, I may have to reevaluate my draft strategy. So we'll see. Minnesota Ryan: Ooh, okay. Well, I'll always say like as as speaking as now I guess two-time champ, that feels weird to say, but speaking as that, like, go with the act that you feel is the best. Like I I w these numbers are great, but even when I draft, I do not just draft off numbers. I use them as a almost honing tool to bring me to where is my brand with America. Like I kind of do that. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: So I advise you to do if you're gonna change any draft strategy, still have your own brain in there, but maybe use these as maybe a honing tool to go to where's that spot out? Cody: Okay. Good job. Good stuff. Yeah. Yes, we gotta get less to get no. We got we got all night. Let's do that. Let's get yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect. Well appreciate it. We do have some listener questions if we got time. Let's do it. Let's do it. Perfect. well I have them listed here so we can kinda just walk down. I had five. Did was any more that popped in before we started recording? Yeah, feel free. Cody: Yeah. let me look. Can we Doesn't look like it. If you want to go ahead, yeah, if you want to go ahead, I'll just double check all that. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect. Okay. Yeah, perfect, perfect. Okay. So we'll start off again. This isn't I'm just I just wrote them down on my list, so we're going in the order of how I wrote them down on my list. but they're all very, very good questions. I'll give credit to the one who person who asked the question as well. but all of these come from our Twitter, our X account, so we got fans are jumping on in, listeners jumping on in to ha kind of get their say on what we're going on with this. First question I have. this comes from AGT District, our our good friend, always a a a fun one to talk to online on X. and he wants to ask, is there potentially is this potentially the strongest year for a comedian to win the show since Josh Blue? And so he particularly brings up that we've had so many comedians this year. We've had so many comedians. Is this the year because we don't have a clear-cut favorite, because there's not someone who's gonna steal the show like a Jessica, is this the year that we can get a comedian to slip into that top slot and maybe actually pull off the win that Josh Blue couldn't do a couple years back? is this that year? I kinda have my opinion on this. Do you have an initial kind of gut reaction to that question that you can think of? Cody: I think it's possible a possibility. Yeah. I and we've had several comedians finish second. Tom Cotter and Drew Lynch are finished second, Ryan D. Miller finished third. So we've had comedians do well in the show. It's I I definitely think it's possible. I think Kev if anyone's gonna do it, I think Kev Adams is kind of the leader in the clubhouse right now. we have a couple of others which I don't have in front of me right now. yes. Minnesota Ryan: there was Sosa. Sosa was one of them Cody: Sosa's really good. Chris Chris Sosa. Yep, he was really good. I think that Daniel's gonna unless he can kind of get up there, I think he's kinda the the one that's you know, in the bottom of the pack as far as comedians. But if anyone can do it, I think it's either gonna be Kev Adams or Chris Sosa, kind of the two that are gonna Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I agree. I agree. I I understand the question. Like, yes, statistically on the year. This if we had a Josh Blue on this season, I would be like, heck yeah, no, this is the year a comedian can win. Absolutely, because there's not a clear-cut favorite. I don't know if I personally trust the quality of the comedians this year for me to say that yes, I think this is the year it's gonna happen. now they could surprise us, right? We could come out massive, awesome set, propels them up. Like I think we had what we had a comedian a couple years back who ended up being like fifth place and it was like a big surprise. we had we had one that you had drafted a c like another year or two ago that made it into fifth place as well. Like there's definitely surprises that can appear. but like learn more. Like you you never know if they just have great comedy sets, a lot of energy and pull it up. I just I personally d am not in love yet because I don't think we have a complete comedian yet. I don't think we have someone who has both the energy and the material and the experience. And I don't think you can win AGT as a comedian without all three. I I think you need to know how to play the crowd, play the ups and downs, have r longstanding, successful, knowing material that you can pull out any moment in time, and have the energy to captivate people. I don't know if we have that. And so I'm gonna say this year, no, but not because of the year. It's because of who we have on the actual show this season. I'm not at least maybe we have one. Maybe we get one of the next two episodes. Then I'll change my mind completely. but right now, no. I would say I don't believe that we're gonna get a comedian win this year. but any other thoughts on that question? Cody: Nope. Thanks, thank thanks. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Perfect. Thank you, HT District. That's fantastic question. Next question here. This comes from my guy Groot, one of my pseudo part of my team, Team Minnesota Ryan, who always is supporting me every single season. Groot wants to know just general thoughts on people that come in who already have a following on AGT. What do we think about people who have a following? Do we think that they're tarnishing the show a little bit? Do we think they're getting an advantage, a disadvantage? Like should they even be coming to AGT if they already are successful? Like I know again, you I think you guys and Jay, you've already talked about this before, but like I can give my opinion on it. If you feel like you're just gonna rehash something, I'd be happy to. Perfect. Wonderful. I I understand why these acts are coming on, right? But keep in mind, AGT fans out there, they're not coming on to win the show. That's why it feels like a bothering thing to you, because you want all your people to be nobodies that doesn't you've never heard before. This is their chance at a new life. Cody: Yeah. No, go we wanna we wanna hear your opinions. We've talked we've talked about it, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Those people are coming on because they want to be seen again. They're seeing this as a re-career launch. Okay. That's that's why they're coming. I wanna really remind you all having a follower base does not lead to an advantage on the show. Me and Commentary have broken this down a thousand times. Statistically, we've brought up stats, we've put follower counts, we've done rankings. Like it does not matter because the people that support them online don't always vote. Keep in mind, voting happens in a very particular time. Okay, not enough of that large fan base, especially because social media these days is very I click it and I leave and I come back later type of thing. They're not going on to vote. So very rarely does someone who has a follower base get an advantage for the follower base that they had. Now there's a couple exceptions to that, and I'll clarify that. but don't it doesn't actually give an advantage. Do I think it ruins the show? No, as long as we embrace them as someone who's not coming on to win. Stop seeing these acts with followers coming on that they're trying to win AGT. I know they're saying they want to. That's not why they're coming on. They want to regrow their platform, find new fans, show off their skill to get more people onto their platform. They are never going to succeed on this show because that's not why they're coming to do it. And AGT knows that. AGT is a clip show. It's it's using virality to help grow their fan base, to keep them around. They want these acts to come on to bring publicity, but they do not want them to win because then that tarnishes their show. Okay. So my opinion on it is I understand why they're coming. Why I'm not bothered by them is because I know they're not gonna change how the show who wins the show. They're not gonna do that. And we've just seen that it hasn't given that extra base. Now, the one caveat, the exception, right? Let's take Jessica. Jessica is an AGT alum with a fan base from AGT and American Idol at the time, right? Her follower base is attached to AGT. Therefore, those people are more likely to vote for her, but I'd argue they aren't new fans. They're old fans that also watch the same thing. So they're more likely to vote for someone who watches the does the thing that they want to cheer for. So that's an argument to some people if they're connected to AGT or to one of the judges or to something like a previous winner on the show. They will gather more attention because they have that natural like the fan base is the same that watches them. But people that have a different fan base that come on, they're not going to get an extra bump because of the fan base that they have. So that's at least my my person how we perceived it with our stats throughout the years. Anything you wanna say Cody on just what I just said or anything you wanna comment on. Cody: Yeah, all those are like great points, Ryan. Some people are gonna argue that these acts that are coming on are taking spots away from other acts. And you know, again, those are valid arguments. I would say that we're we're a a show now that they they can pick and choose. They're there's it's an almost unlimited talent pool out there of people that they can pick, and these are the ones they pick to be on the show. Minnesota Ryan: Agree, yep. Exactly. Cody: To get people to watch the show because yes, it's still a T V show. They have to get eyeballs on the screens, they have to get eyeballs on YouTube and Instagram and TikTok. That's how they're gonna make their money. That's how they're gonna keep going. So I think you made some great points. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. Perfect. Perfect. yeah. next question. And this is we've kind of talked a little bit about this, but I think this is another good thing we can bring back up here. we have Taylor's live tweet account. That's what it's listed online as. so I don't know if Taylor's a a boy or a girl here. but thank you, Taylor. Could could be Taylor's- Hey, wouldn't that be something? but no, I don't think it is. but I feel like that account is already used, and a much much more followed. But Cody: Thanks group. Thanks, Group. Yep. Could be Taylor Swift. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: wanted to know our general thoughts on how the Golden Buzzers are primarily singers, particularly this year, and even last year we had quite a few singers as well. On and if we think that that's right or wrong, or if that's the proper use of the Golden Buzzer, when maybe it should be more of a variety of acts. Like maybe one to two singers and then a mix of others. Do we think that the judges are using their golden buzzers wrong by primarily picking singers on a variety show rather than picking the variety acts? I think that's kind of the point we're trying to get to. Cody: Sure. I I don't want to put rules on the judges for how they use their golden buzzer. I think that would not be good for the show to do that. I want them to be able to pick and choose how they want to use it. Do I gr agree at times how they use it? No. And a lot of times I don't agree on who they pick, but I think for it to be the show that it is, we need to allow them to make those decisions, whether they're good decisions or bad decisions, whether that's because they're a little thirsty for whoever the act is, or because the act itself is actually a good performance. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Cody: I think Jay has made the the argument he would use the golden buzzer to advance an act that maybe was not good. And like that others said, Hey, no, we really don't think but he's like, I actually enjoy this act, I'm gonna send you through. So there's different philosophies on how people would use the golden buzzer, and I don't think we should put any sort of guardrails at all for how anyone uses it. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. And I I agree. In an ideal world, if you told me if I had a choice to like design the perfect ADG show, yes, I would love my golden buzzers to be spread out. Because that's the most fun. That's the most fun for everybody involved. That's just not how this works though, right? It's not like they can guarantee that in a given year they're gonna get a acrobatic act that's golden buzzer worthy and that they just they know that act's coming, they're gonna design it for that. Like they get what they get. They get the people to come on, and some years there are more singers that are good. Now, there's just more singers in general, so that's just population versus actual talent. But like it's unfortunately statistically more likely that on a given season more singers are gonna be good comparatively to others than these other acts because it's harder to find those other acts. So I don't think necessarily it's their choice of golden buzzer, like as much. This season's a little bit questionable, I'll be honest. But like I think it's more of just that they they don't get to review the golden buzzer before they give it. They're in the show. They don't know what acts are coming. They don't know I mean we don't think they know what acts are coming. that they have just are swayed in the moment to hit a button for somebody, right? And we've all had an act and we've watched AGT that we've liked that we go, that act should have gotten the golden buzzer. Why didn't they give it? Why that that should have been it? And for all we know, we're completely wrong, right? So it's like we're all driven in the moment for certain acts. We get to see the edited audition tape that's all perfectly done and everything's amazing. We don't see the live show performance where maybe things were off. We didn't have the same sway, the same feel. We don't hear the music. the background music hiding in as they're talking, right? And feel the emotion that the judges like they they just have blank there's just no sound. They're just talking to these people, right? And they're swayed by it. So I wanna I wanna remind you all that. Like they're hyping it up in the audition. So it's very easy for us to have the emotion that an act deserves a golden buzzer because we see the edited product. But when you're in an actual show like that, it isn't always seen the same way. Now, I do think Cody: Ha ha. Minnesota Ryan: Because AGT is a variety show and there's a lot of other singing shows out there, I'd rather have a judge, if they're gonna give it to a singer, truly think that that singer is a next level talent before they give it. I think I think singers should be a little harsher judged because they're gonna see more singers in a day. So I'd rather have it be like, this needs to be a singer that stands out. again, I'll bring up this year like I'm not a giant fan of all of Mel B's golden buzzers this year because they're all just male singers that haven't opened like they've underwhelmed me, right? It doesn't mean they're not talented though. She's not She's an artist. She's a fantastic artist that had a whole wonderful career in a world that I didn't do, right? Maybe she sees a talented eyes and see, and that's why she's putting out these people, but I don't like that golden buzzer. Doesn't mean she's wrong. It just means that that's who she taught in the moment, should be the one that we give credit to. If it if it were me, I want the golden buzzer to be going to the act that deserves the appreciation and the recognition for the work that they did. Okay. It isn't always the most talented act. It's the act that deserves that spotlight. That's what I want the golden buzzer to be. So if you are s if someone performed great And the act was fun and I enjoyed it. And they're a great person that deserves to go viral because they've worked so hard for it, that's who I want my golden buzzer to go to, because that's gonna change their life. If we just throw it to random acts that don't under appreciate the moment, then they're gonna not use the golden buzzer correctly. And that's what I worry of that we're just giving it to the wrong people in that way. I don't know if that makes sense. But Cody: Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. And if we look at the Golden Buzzer, its its primary use is to make clips to go viral. Once these acts are in the live shows, the judges have no control at that point. I mean, other than sending other than having another one they can send to the finals. They can send it to the finals. But as we've seen last two seasons, they'll send to the finals and they don't get anywhere near the top five. So America will and will Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. Another gold buster. Cody: I'm sure there's we've had questions on this as well about voting in America and you know, things have been rigged and all that. Once we get to the live shows, everything will equalize, everything equilibrium will kick in and the ones that deserve to advance will advance. So Minnesota Ryan: He Exactly. And I'm in agreement with that. Yes, I will clarify, some of their golden buzzers annoy me. I'm with you all. I'm a viewer too. We can all be upset about it. But it it I don't think it inherently is ruining the show. And I don't think that we need to have control of who they give golden buzzers. I actually do like some of the variability sometimes. so I I that's my general opinion on it. But feel free, all you out there, have your own opinion. Like if you like, No, they give the worst golden buzzers, then that's your opinion. That's amazing. Like Cody: Yes, yes. That's yeah. Yeah. That's why I love this show and having this interaction because we all have different opinions on this, and that's perfectly valid. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. So no, just a fantastic conversation to have, and I'm sure we'll answer this again when we get a live show Golden Buzzer and people are gonna be like, that didn't deserve it. It should been this one. We'll get it again. And so we'll chat about it then. But thank you, Taylor's live tweet account that I hope is Taylor Swift. th thank you. that would be awesome. but let's zoom on to fourth c fourth of five question here. so I think I did my best earlier. I'll do my best here. So Geekazoid online here wanted to know wanted me to try and explain Daryl's act, because I don't think that Geekazoid understood Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Fully, what was going on? I think we did a whole big conversation earlier on Daryl. The biggest thing I'll remind you all guys is it was meant to be like he was nervous. He was supposed to mess up. However, Simon messed up his mess up. That's why it felt so awkward, okay? The point of the magic was he was supposed to mess up the card trick. He was supposed to run off stage all nervous. Simon was not supposed to show his card to everybody because he was supposed to have read it correctly and just say, no, that's not my card, right? That's all he was supposed to say. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: And then we were supposed to get the video clip. The magic is supposed to be that apparently Daryl knew all along what was gonna happen, and he had pre-recorded a video clip, and he was making it look as though Simon was talking to him live, but it was actually a pre-recorded clip saying that he knew all along this was gonna happen and he actually knew what Simon's card was. That is the magic, okay? So I I can't really explain it to make more sense because it was already kind of messed up as it was. but that's why people freaked out, is it's like he actually wasn't nervous. He did maybe know what he was doing, but it doesn't change the fact that Simon still messed up his act. Okay. That is why it's so weird. Okay, so let that part sink in for you all. Deekazoid also had an additional question. this is really the real question we're gonna talk about here. he brought up that he doesn't necessarily believe he or she, Deekazoid here, doesn't really believe that Royal Lasers, Royal Lasers should have received a golden buzzer, and they are calling them Timu Light Balance. Cody: Yeah, yes, yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: That's the word that So I think I think I think Geek is what wanted us to talk about do we feel like that act deserves it? I we kind of were it's area before we didn't really have a positive answer or not, we didn't know. but that's generally he just does do we think that they deserved it or they just another electronic act like every other year? Cody: I Yes. Yes. Yeah. I will say I would not have given it to him, but to say they didn't deserve it I don't think is fair because Terry thought they did and that's all that's what mattered. I I personally would not have given it to him 'cause I again I would have just seen them as another light balance. I've been like, man, that was incredible. That's awesome. Your dat your dancing is on point. It's a we we hoped we'll we're gonna put you through. Great job. So Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I I'm in the exact same boat. I I love electronic acts. I'm I drafted the drones. I've drafted I drafted Lightwire last year. I love these type of acts. But I remember going off and going like I don't know what to think about that one. And just having that thought, I probably wouldn't have given the Golden Buzzer either, but they a hundred percent deserved all yeses. They deserved appreciation and they should go on to the next round. That's where I believe it's I don't just because they didn't deserve Golden Buzzer in someone's brain doesn't mean they're not a quality act on this show this season. That's I want that distinction to be made. but Cody: Yes Yeah. Yes. Right, right. Yes. There was nothing different that we haven't seen before. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, we co Exactly. Exactly. So that's kinda I think that I don't think we need to over explain that one. I think that makes sense there. So let's move on to the real the meaty question of the final meaty question here from AGT Insider. I have we have two parts. So I have my part of the question and your part of the question. Do you want to do your part first or my part first? Okay. So you have two questions that you have to answer here according to AGT inside insider here. One Cody: Okay. okay. we can do my part first. That's fine. I'll go f yeah. Boy, it feels like it's hey part one A of C subsection twelve. Yeah, let's okay, let's go. Minnesota Ryan: It's a little bit. It's a little bit. First question here is who are you don't have to like super specific, but who are your favorite acts of the season so far? You can do favorite draftability, you can do favorite you like favorite whatever you want, with favorite acts. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. I I really like Kev Adams as as a comedian. I really enjoyed Va Tang this week. I thought that was a really fun act. who else do we have this week? Where'd my notes at? I thought Na of course Nane was really good this week. just looking back through, I'm trying to see of course, come here. I just love that name, come here. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They were good. Yeah. Yeah. Strange name. It's a strange name. Cody: Yeah. And and when I saw it coming in, I like, That's a that's definitely a Minnesota Ryan act right there. let's see. Erwan. I love Erwan. and and those are probably my my top three, top four that I've kind of enjoyed this season. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: It's absent. Absolutely. the second part to your question here, you can maybe expand on what you already asked or just go further. What are your hopes for the final two audition episodes? It can either be like what acts are you looking for? What do just want from the show? Do we think we need them at all? Like, what do you think? Cody: no, I think six or seven, six seven is the right number. Yeah, I think that's the right amount of auditions. When we've hit nine and ten, that's that's getting too many. I think this is kind of the sweet spot. Somewhere in the six to seven range is fine. I just want them to be good episodes, and that's all I ask. Just just give me some good talent, give me something enjoyable. I thought tonight's or this week's act or show was really good. Just give just give me more of that. That's all that I want. Minnesota Ryan: Absolutely. And I I'm in clear agreements. Cody: So if you wanna give me if you wanna give me just a some montages, I'm which I'm pretty sure they're gonna do in the last one, I want Sethword to make a comeback. Just so yeah. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: they will. yes. Glitter. No, I I'm with you. It to make it fun. Like, I'm happy we're not doing nine. I'll say that. but like I I want a little bit more of a standout act. I think I've I've been waiting for an act to like draw me in. Like last year I I literally we started last year and Jessica was like a week one performance and then Circa Maria performed on the same night and I like, gosh, I have my favorite acts of all time. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: Like just immediately. so it's like I want that back. Cause I d I feel like I don't have like a clear cut idea of what this season's gonna look like yet. And I would love a little bit of identity in one of the episodes, whether it's the last golden buzzer or it's like something, a big act that stands out all of a It's like, yep, that's a contender. Like I want something like that. That would be how I'd answer that. But those are your main two questions. I'll go to mine now. we'll see how much of my secrets I give away on this question here. First question, straight up to it. Who is my pick to be the winner this year? So so let's say what do I say what my first overall draft pick is gonna be yet? I don't know. I can't do that, Steven. yeah, let's go, let's go. Cody: Well, I'm gonna kinda change it up a little bit 'cause I'm gonna obfuscate it a little bit. Have we seen the winner so far? Minnesota Ryan: I think we've seen potential winners. I I do think we have some acts that have the potential to surprise and win. However, I do not see a Jessica this year. Not yet. Like I've not s I don't think there's one I would put my hat on to go, that's the one. If I had the first overall pick, I would hate it this year. Absolutely. Because I don't know where I'd be going right away. I don't have a clear cut favorite. I do I don't think this is a year we're gonna get a winner that's not deserving. I don't think that's true. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: I I just don't know who it'll be yet. I think I think our live shows are gonna be a really big part of learning who we're gonna get. obviously you guys all know me, you've learned my picks over time, right? I love the viral acts. I I love the bigger groups, the things that surprise you, the cool stories. Like you could probably you guys have even started to say, like, this feels like a Minnesota Ryan Act. You you've gotten a good idea of what I like now. So I am not any different than I was last year. I'll tell you all that. Like I am still the same type of drafter, same type of person in what I would wanna do. Cody: Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: But I don't have a clerical favorite yet. I can't say I have one that I pick to win. Cody: Do you prefer this type of season where it's not clear cut or do you prefer like, hey, it's Jessica, hey it's Richard, hey it's Minnesota Ryan: Ooh. I don't hate having a favorite. I don't think that's a bad thing for the season, because then it actually makes the other acts perform harder. If the other acts know there's a favorite, they're gonna work harder to try and win. I think we get a better season. I think Chris Turner had to up his game because he knew he was competing with Jessica. So we ended up in a better finale because of that. So I don't hate having a favorite. I don't know if I want it to like Jessica though every year. Like that was almost like there is no shot for anybody else. Like I think the most I would go is Richard. Cody: Okay. Minnesota Ryan: Because I think when they said that the votes came in, like Ronnie and Rhythm were very close to beating Richard. So like I want it with one of those where we get like, sure, there's a favorite, they're probably gonna be top three, but there's this other act that's right there with them, you know, that can keep up and maybe they're gonna surprise. I want more like that. I think that's more fun. I don't know if I want it to be this scatter shot right now, because it's fun it's fun, but it also could be terrible. Like we could get to the end of this and we just have nobody that really deserved anything. Yeah, exactly. Cody: Well, we have like a Dustin Tovella type moment. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: And it's like I I want I always want to look back on a season and be happy with what happened, with who won, be like that act I would go see if I saw them around. Like I want that. And I that's why I don't want it to be so scatter shot, but I'd love like a top five. Give me a give me a top five in there. And any one of them can win it. But I want a solid top five. That's usually what like to see. the second part of my question, which we've kind of already talked about this, but it was who is the most iron viral act this season and can they win it all? We already talked about the most viral act this season. That is Nene. and Cody: Okay, perfect. Excellent. Minnesota Ryan: That is that's not even in question. Like that is she is straight up, without a doubt, the most viral act currently on the season so far. Do I think she can win it? I think she can. Now, I love my solo artists. My artists, they're just single, like instrument players. I've I've drafted all of them. I loved Avery Dixon, I drafted Bay last year. Like I tend to like these acts more than other people. Song choice is incredibly important. Speaking to every generation is incredibly important. Cody: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: And the transition from audition to live show is incredibly important. So there's a lot of factors that still need to go into this. The one thing that makes me think that Nene is gonna be a standout, why I think that she's a finals contender with these numbers, is that she has such good stage presence. The thing that usually hurts child like kid singers or kid performers is they don't have stage presence. They don't know how to use the stage. The reason why Bey did so well last year, even though people didn't think he should, was because he had great stage presence. People wanted to cheer for him because he was fun to watch. Right? I do think Nene has that vibe. I think she can rock a stage. But she has to keep it in more of the classic rock to like more known metal songs. If she goes into more heavy metal or screamo type design, she's going to lose her fan base. So that is the we're area I'm like, okay, Nene, you can you have a shot, but I need you to choose the right stuff, be coached well, and do what you just did in auditions. And if she does that, I think she I think 100% she's a finals contender. Cody: Yes. Minnesota Ryan: whether or not she can win, she has to do it really well, right? Because she's not a golden buzzer. Again, keep that out. Like that as much as I don't want that to matter, it does. Okay, like it does 100% matter. She has to beat the golden buzzers. And the the people that do that are your Chris Turners, right? Your ones who get better and better and better and better every single time we see them. so I do think she can win. She is the most viral act. We'll see if that changes. I will keep you all updated as we go through that to see if she stays the most viral or if she plateaus off. But right now it's not even close on both platforms. Cody: Yes. Yes. Minnesota Ryan: She's doing incredible. So those are all our questions. Cody: Excellent. Awesome. Thanks. Any final thoughts? Okay. Minnesota Ryan: I don't think so. I I'm I've I we've talked so much about all these acts tonight. Right, we're we're doing great. yeah. Feel free to do any closeouts here. If any other questions for me, I'm happy to answer them. But this has been fun. Cody: We we're going on the two and a half hour mark here, but it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. No, thanks thanks for coming on, Ryan. This it's always a pleasure to have you on and I love doing the Ryanalytics and your game for doing Ryanalytics we hit live shows. So stay tuned. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: I think so. I I I think I'm down. I it's a lot of work you all out there. I hope you all enjoy it because it is like three to four hours of work of gathering numbers and doing statistics and doing math. I am not a math guy, by the way. I'm a science guy. So like I want I hope you all appreciate it. But I if if it is well received and you all are liking it out there, like let the show know so that I can hear that and I will work harder for you all. Absolutely. Cody: Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. We'll pass that along. Let us know. so Ryan, thanks. Thanks again. So if y'all wanna if you got any questions for Ryan, Jay's gonna be back next week. Got questions for us, comments, want to talk about the rest of the season, hit us up at AGT Time Pod on all of our social platforms, AGT TimePod at gmail.com and go check out our website, AGT Timepod.com. Find Minnesota Ryan on Twitter at Minnesota underscore Ryan, make sure have the underscore. Minnesota Ryan without the underscores are not an not not an AGT fan. So don't don't message him. so thank you, Ryan again. Thank you, Ryan. We'll see you again in a few weeks at the draft. And can't wait. You and Steven are teaming up. That's gonna be v so interesting. So yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Let's go. Yes. Not the same person. Nope. Absolutely. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. I'm pumped. I'm so I gotta We gotta have a conference meeting and I gotta talk what Steven think is thinking right now because we gotta we gotta get our draft strategy together. We have not talked yet, so it's gonna be good. It'll be fun. I'm gonna enjoy it. Cody: I can't wait to see this. It's gonna be so much fun. everyone, have a great night.