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Mac & Bone Hour 1: USMNT Exits World Cup After Belgium Loss · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: Maxtell on his cruise right now unless he threw himself overboard. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Based off the US's performance yesterday, Fiddy and myself t
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Speaker 1: Bone holding it down here today as we sit here
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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, trying to figure something out that we
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Speaker 1: often do every couple of years, that is what happened
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Speaker 1: to US soccer and where we go from here. I
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Speaker 1: think Braves fans also trying to figure out their baseball team. Still,
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Speaker 1: we're getting ready for football season. This season has me
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Speaker 1: just completely befumbled. I'm not sure befumbled the word, but
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Speaker 1: I feel that way today, And certainly the main story
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Speaker 1: today is going to be especially early on here as
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Speaker 1: us reacting to the performance or whatever we call it,
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Speaker 1: of the US men's soccer team last night, A lot
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Speaker 1: of hype, a lot of anticipation.
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Speaker 3: The world was watching.
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Speaker 1: I think it was the most anticipated I've ever seen
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Speaker 1: our country to watch our team in a World Cup.
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Speaker 1: It just felt like maybe it's social media is bigger
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Speaker 1: than ever. It just felt like that was the biggest
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Speaker 1: moment in US soccer history. And they came out and
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Speaker 1: played like it was a friendly along the way, and
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Speaker 1: credit to Belgium, they showed up. We were came out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, we were played early, we were disappointed late.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know, Fitty, if you could even name
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Speaker 1: guides that played well outside of a tellmey kick last night.
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Speaker 1: But that's what happens, and now leads to more questions
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Speaker 1: that we have about the state of US soccer and
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Speaker 1: will we ever get past this point of always trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out who we are as a soccer nation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you brought up the best point.
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Speaker 4: The lead up to the match was something that quite frankly,
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Speaker 4: I've never seen and we've never seen. The scene outside
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Speaker 4: Seattle behind that Fox setup was tremendous.
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Speaker 2: It was electric.
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Speaker 4: Even the crowd was liking what Alexi Loss was having
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Speaker 4: to say, which is not usually the case when he
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Speaker 4: opens his mouth and the build up was there. There
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Speaker 4: was a nervous energy that existed that I usually don't
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Speaker 4: feel this time of the year in the sports calendar,
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Speaker 4: but it was there last night, and then Bone they
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Speaker 4: had to play.
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Speaker 1: I think nervous might be the right word, right, because
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Speaker 1: I feel like I think it was Stu Holden maybe
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Speaker 1: that said it, but they used the word nervy during
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Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I feel like nervous energy is one
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Speaker 1: thing fitty, but I felt like they almost came out
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Speaker 1: and played nervous last night from the very beginning of
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Speaker 1: that game, as soon as the open, as soon as
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Speaker 1: the ball was kicked off to begin that game, you
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Speaker 1: could see that we were in trouble. We were never
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Speaker 1: in the game. Belgium had six shots in the first
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Speaker 1: eleven minutes. They had pressure on Freeze. They were forcing
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Speaker 1: their attack on our defense. We were giving them way
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Speaker 1: too much space early. I don't know what we were
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Speaker 1: doing there. Belgium was doing whatever they wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: Belgium came out really for the first time in this tournament,
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Speaker 1: in full and looked like the number nine team in
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Speaker 1: the world. They had not looked that way through the
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Speaker 1: duration of a game all tournament long, and they finally
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Speaker 1: showed up as a team that said, hey, look we
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Speaker 1: bet here before. We're veterans, although some veterans were sitting
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Speaker 1: last night for them. But Belgium came out and said
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Speaker 1: we are going to play like the number nine team
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Speaker 1: in the world. And it's almost that with all the
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Speaker 1: balligin stuff, Belgium said, oh yeah, I don't forget, We're
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Speaker 1: still a pretty good soccer team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: For a US side that had made their way to
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Speaker 4: where they got to in this World Cup the round
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Speaker 4: to sixteen, with constant pressure on the ball, it just
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Speaker 4: never felt they were able to get their press, their
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Speaker 4: pressure set and it felt like from the moment the
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Speaker 4: match started we were chasing. And even when we got
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Speaker 4: leveled back at one and you thought, okay, now we
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Speaker 4: can just take a deep breath, settle into this thing,
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Speaker 4: I'm sixty one seconds later, we're back down again, and
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Speaker 4: I thought, I.
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Speaker 1: Said, we are so back, and then immediately had to
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Speaker 1: say never mind, sorry about it.
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Speaker 4: It's so cliche to say because you go on to
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Speaker 4: lose for one, But when that happened, that's when I
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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I don't know if this is was
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Speaker 4: what what.
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Speaker 2: The US had done so far in this World Cup.
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Speaker 4: Whatever a little bit adversity they had faced, they were
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Speaker 4: able to attack it head on and and respond to it.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna say that they cowered to the
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Speaker 4: pressure last night. I think they got beat by by
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Speaker 4: a better side. But it just wasn't the same team
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Speaker 4: that we had watched the previous four matches, the three
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Speaker 4: matches we watched in group play, and then what they
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Speaker 4: did in the first knockout round match against Bosnia.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't the same US team.
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Speaker 4: And you just you just have to wonder how much
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Speaker 4: of the.
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Speaker 2: Ballog and stuff impacted that.
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Speaker 4: But on the on the flip side, I don't think
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Speaker 4: it would have mattered, Like if if he would have played.
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Speaker 4: They said, if he wouldn't have played, they still probably
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Speaker 4: would have lost, for one, because he didn't have the
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Speaker 4: impact that we needed him to have. Last after the
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Speaker 4: after the red car suspension got overturned and I thought,
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Speaker 4: I thought, our guy, you're a guy everybody's guy. I
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Speaker 4: thought Tim Reim had had a pretty rough night at
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Speaker 4: different points last night. Don't want to single him out individually.
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Speaker 4: It was a collective effort but I thought there were
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Speaker 4: different points in the match where the concerns that we've
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Speaker 4: brought up to MAC or I've brought up to MAC.
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Speaker 4: I thought they showed themselves last night and they were
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Speaker 4: too big to overcome.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Reid wasn't good, but there was nobody played well.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to find to single out somebody where you say, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he he played well.
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Speaker 3: Hats off to him.
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Speaker 1: Tillman had the you know, on the on the goal,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that was pretty extraordinary, but that outside of that,
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Speaker 1: that's the high moment. Maybe you say he did all right,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know. And and from the star player
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Speaker 1: on the team, Captain America, to the goalkeeping, it was
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Speaker 1: just bad all the way around. Matt Freeze was awful
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Speaker 1: last night. All the goals you could put blame on him. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the blunder there where he comes out and misplays it
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Speaker 1: was sort of the summary of the evening, where what
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Speaker 1: are you doing in this spot there? You're making that
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Speaker 1: play just a terrible like, you know, almost like a
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Speaker 1: U Soccer type mistake there. But it wasn't just that
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Speaker 1: he was bad all night. He misread the first goal.
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Speaker 1: On the second goal, he was out of position, But
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna It doesn't matter if you've got flow
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Speaker 1: or Polistic shows up. If your goal your goalie is
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Speaker 1: that bad in that game, it doesn't matter. So they
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Speaker 1: weren't putting pressure on Belgium when they were getting looks.
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Speaker 1: The goalkeeper wasn't stopping them. I mean, and that's not
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Speaker 1: even counting what polistic was last night. He leaves with
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Speaker 1: an ankle injury. Look, I know that, I know he's
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Speaker 1: not at the level of the the elites, of the elites.
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Speaker 1: I know that he's not and Bope and Messi and
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Speaker 1: Holland and he goes on. I know that he's not there,
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Speaker 1: but he's supposed to be there as that guy for us.
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Speaker 1: He's nickname is Captain America for crying now allowed. And
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Speaker 1: you think about all the things that describe America, never
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Speaker 1: back down, and all the terms we use to describe resiliency. Well,
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Speaker 1: our Captain America goes out with an injury last night
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Speaker 1: and he did not have the best tournament. And what fitty,
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Speaker 1: how do you have the name Captain America? And you go,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to drag some of these guys
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Speaker 1: off the field. I don't, I don't quite understand what
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Speaker 1: what that was last night. I know that he's kind
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Speaker 1: of Sometimes people question the reputation for playing, but that
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Speaker 1: to me is ridiculous last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah we we.
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Speaker 4: But sometimes people get given nicknames they shouldn't been given nicknames,
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Speaker 4: like the nicknames.
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Speaker 1: Probably my nickname is t bone, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: a rough cut of meat. And I don't really think
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Speaker 1: I'm a I don't really think.
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Speaker 2: I'm probably not.
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm more of a probably a medallion.
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I've earned the nickname around here, the station, the signal, the.
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Speaker 3: Transmitter, some of those you gave to yourself, And I
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Speaker 3: think I've.
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Speaker 2: Earned those nicknames.
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Speaker 4: You know for someone that loves Captain America as a superhero,
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Speaker 4: and they just take it from that. Does he embody
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Speaker 4: with Captain America embodies as a superhero? No, when you
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Speaker 4: look at will take it from the literal sense, like
9:09
Speaker 4: look at who have been our previous Captain America's. You'd
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Speaker 4: look at Landon Donovan, you look at Clint Dempsey. How
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Speaker 4: big those guys were, how impactful those guys were for
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Speaker 4: US soccer. Christian Polisic has yet to have that type
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Speaker 4: of impact on the on the national stage, and we
9:27
Speaker 4: can get to the Carly Lloyd sound here in a
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Speaker 4: moment if you want to. But she didn't hold back
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Speaker 4: when she offered her opinion of him, And there was
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Speaker 4: so much there was so much talk around around flow
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Speaker 4: going into the match, and rightfully so, because he'd been
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Speaker 4: the most electric player for the US men's national team
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Speaker 4: in this World Cup. There was never a scenario bone
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Speaker 4: that I thought where they could win if Christian Polisic
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Speaker 4: was not the best or the second best player on
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Speaker 4: the pitch last night.
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Speaker 2: And that just quite simply was not was not the case.
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Speaker 4: And that's something that at some point, either he has
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Speaker 4: to embrace being what he has been labeled to this
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Speaker 4: generation of US soccer, or we just got to move
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Speaker 4: on and put our hopes and dreams into someone else, right,
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Speaker 4: because it feels like every single time that we turned
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Speaker 4: to Christian Polistic as a nation and we're waiting from
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Speaker 4: to have that big American.
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Speaker 2: Moment, he comes up empty, He comes up short.
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Speaker 3: The President had more impact on this World Cup than
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Speaker 3: he did.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned me.
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Speaker 5: I'm getting a lot of blame, a lot of blame, Rosenberg.
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Speaker 5: I saw your video, Flounder, I saw your tweets. I
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Speaker 5: am not to blame.
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Speaker 1: The big question now as we try to figure out
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Speaker 1: what happened last night. Of course we always sit here
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Speaker 1: and try to figure out what is the future of
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Speaker 1: United States soccer? And that's what's disappointing. I think about
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Speaker 1: this one. All the momentum was there both in the
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Speaker 1: lead up. The attention was never has never been greater
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Speaker 1: from the sports world on the US. It was played
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Speaker 1: in the United States. It was all there to take
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Speaker 1: that next level, to take that next step there. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying win it, because obviously when you've got Spain, France, Argentea,
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Speaker 1: I get all that, but could we have at least
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Speaker 1: gone to maybe the you know, compete against Spain, take
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Speaker 1: them to the max, go to the I don't know,
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Speaker 1: to go out in that way embarrassed. That's disappointing and
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Speaker 1: that leaves more questions about the future.
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Speaker 3: If it's not now, when will it ever be.
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Speaker 1: For the men's team, this was set up for them
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Speaker 1: to at least go as far as far as if
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Speaker 1: ever gone before. And I never thought i'd quote this
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Speaker 1: man when it comes to soccer, but Frank the Tang
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Speaker 1: from Barstool brought up a word fitty that we know
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Speaker 1: well from college basketball to describe the United State. When
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Speaker 1: will we ever not be considered a mid major in
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Speaker 1: the soccer world, a team that, you know what's kind
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Speaker 1: of feisty all. Maybe it's their year, but ultimately when
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Speaker 1: they have to battle either the blue bloods or the
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Speaker 1: teams that are at a higher level, it just feels
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Speaker 1: like we're never quite there.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: It's a very appropriate way, I think to label where
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Speaker 4: they are. And it's it's amazing, especially in elimination tournaments
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Speaker 4: like this, how one match, one bad day can ruin
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Speaker 4: everything that you feel like you built. Because it felt
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Speaker 4: like we had built towards something, we had taken that
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Speaker 4: next step, and maybe bone we have and maybe we'll
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Speaker 4: maybe in the next four years, depending on what they
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Speaker 4: do with Pachettino, was we get clear?
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Speaker 3: There's another major question as we get.
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Speaker 4: As we start looking ahead to the twenty thirty World Cup.
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Speaker 4: Maybe with the full cycle with him, maybe then we'll
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Speaker 4: be able to see the growth that we've seen from
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Speaker 4: the US men's national team. But we don't feel that
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Speaker 4: way right now. And this has been the same feeling
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Speaker 4: that I think we have felt at the end of
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Speaker 4: the most recent World Cup exits in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 1: China, seems like a positive, but at the same time,
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be here. We don't know
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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be here. Also, we got we've got,
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Speaker 1: we didn't get any further, like we've been here before.
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Speaker 1: So I know, he did a great job and we
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Speaker 1: want him back, but you know, at the same time,
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Speaker 1: he gets a lot of credit, rightfully, so but yeah,
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Speaker 1: actimately we ended up we ended up basically driving in
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Speaker 1: circles around here.
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Speaker 4: I heard whoever was the ESPN late night show. They
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Speaker 4: were playing some audio and they were kind of giving
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Speaker 4: credit to pachetin know how long it took him to find,
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Speaker 4: you know, a starting lineup.
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Speaker 2: To still achieve what this group did achieve.
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Speaker 4: Then you look at what his record is against I
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Speaker 4: think top twenty five FIFA clubs or our top twenty
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Speaker 4: five teams according to ta FIFA, and we.
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Speaker 2: Were three wins. I think it was one draw in
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Speaker 2: nine losses.
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Speaker 3: What it was.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would suggest that there hasn't been progress made.
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Speaker 4: So it's kind of it's kind of back to I
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Speaker 4: don't want to say it's back to ground zero, but
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Speaker 4: you kind of got to kind of start over again
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Speaker 4: and really try to figure out what's to disconnect with
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Speaker 4: American soccer when they get into the knockout rounds.
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Speaker 2: I think I was.
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Speaker 4: I saw a message on the text line talking about
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Speaker 4: the physicality is the biggest difference. Then once we go
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Speaker 4: against these big European nations, we're not as physical as
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Speaker 4: side as they are.
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Speaker 3: We won't even attended to be physical early on in
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Speaker 3: that game.
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Speaker 4: Was so it feels like it felt like after every
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Speaker 4: time that we've exited a World Cup, we've got to
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Speaker 4: figure out something at least get us back to where
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Speaker 4: we were in twenty twenty two or two thousand and
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Speaker 4: two when we they were a quarterfinal, you know, the
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Speaker 4: best result they've had in the modern era of the
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Speaker 4: World Cup.
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Carly Woyd, who on Fox last night
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Speaker 1: after the game did not hold back on her feelings
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Speaker 1: towards what we saw.
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Speaker 3: Here's Carly.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's a bit of a downer for us
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Speaker 6: being out here now after this loss. But I just
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Speaker 6: I felt like they lost the game before they even
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Speaker 6: stepped out under the pitch. And I'm not sure why,
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Speaker 6: and I don't know the reasons, but just from the beginning,
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Speaker 6: just chasing, tentative, scared, just not confident on the ball.
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Speaker 6: And I think big time players. You wanted some of
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Speaker 6: those big time players.
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Speaker 2: To step up in big moments.
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Speaker 6: And I gotta be honest, you know, I was a
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Speaker 6: bit disappointed with Christian Holsk I think whether he wants
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Speaker 6: to be the star of this team or not, we
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Speaker 6: didn't see enough of from him in this particular game
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Speaker 6: and really the whole World Cup, little glimpses here and there.
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Speaker 6: But you know, look, aside from this loss, I think
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Speaker 6: on the brighter storyline, it's been.
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Speaker 2: A fantastic World Cup.
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Speaker 6: This team has united the country. They have you know,
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Speaker 6: gotten American fans call in love with them, and they're
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Speaker 6: is a bright future. But this is just a real
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Speaker 6: disappointing loss to go out on.
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Speaker 1: I think disappointing the right word, both in the loss
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Speaker 1: and of course the best player not showing up.
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Speaker 3: Look fiddy.
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Speaker 1: I don't think the loss is what drives us crazy.
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Speaker 1: It's the fact that how they lost. If they would
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Speaker 1: have lost to Belgium and it was a draw in
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Speaker 1: ninety minutes and they went to extra time and they lost,
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Speaker 1: either in that you know, in that thirty minutes or
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Speaker 1: you know they lost in pks. That's one thing. But
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Speaker 1: the fact that of all these teams at this stage
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Speaker 1: they showed up the leads. Look at the teams that
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Speaker 1: have gone out and the fights they put up, and
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Speaker 1: how hard it is to knock these teams out. Look,
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Speaker 1: I know the US is in Portugal even but look
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Speaker 1: how hard some of these teams are so hard to
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Speaker 1: take out. You can't do it in ninety minutes or
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Speaker 1: it tasts all the way to stoppage time or whatever.
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Speaker 1: It feels like all these other teams show up in
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Speaker 1: these rounds and here we are, you know, in the
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Speaker 1: first ten minutes, where thinking, oh, here we go. This
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Speaker 1: is a disaster. That's the problem. It's not the loss,
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Speaker 1: it's how they lost.
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Speaker 2: Yep. I think that's at least a fair way to
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Speaker 2: put it.
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Speaker 1: You can, well, Belgium's number nine in the world, we're seventeen.
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Speaker 1: There's no shame in losing to Belgium. But not showing
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Speaker 1: up at all, that's the problem that I have.
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Speaker 4: It's it's the old Dean Smith quote on the ever
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Speaker 4: coach probably has one. But like Dese would always say,
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Speaker 4: if we played to the to if we played to our.
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Speaker 2: Standard and we got beat.
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Speaker 4: I could accept losing because you're gonna lose, but it's
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Speaker 4: when you don't play to the way that you've you've
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Speaker 4: set the expectation, and that's what they There was never
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Speaker 4: a moment last night where they look like the team
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Speaker 4: that we have seen in the previous four matches. We
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Speaker 4: never saw that version of of the US men's national
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Speaker 4: team last night, and I don't want to take it
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Speaker 4: put full blame on all the US. You do have
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Speaker 4: to give Belgium a ton of credit, like they walked
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Speaker 4: into that environment and took control of the match from
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Speaker 4: the opening kick on. It was it was very clear
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Speaker 4: who the better who the better side was.
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Speaker 2: It just felt like we were past that.
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Speaker 4: It felt like we were prepared to maybe see them lose,
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Speaker 4: but maybe lose to them the way they lost to
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Speaker 4: them in twenty fourteen, or they lost two to one
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Speaker 4: and Tim Howard put on one of the greatest goalie
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Speaker 4: exhibitions we've ever seen, you know, sending us a World
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Speaker 4: Cup record for saves and losing in dramatic, heartbreaking fashion.
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Speaker 4: Last night wasn't dramatic. Last night wasn't heartbreaking. Last night
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Speaker 4: wasn't ass kicking last night was disappointing, and I feel
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Speaker 4: like whenever we've seen this team lose on this stage,
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Speaker 4: we've been using those words more often than not.
18:51
Speaker 1: I also think Belgium found new life in the way
18:54
Speaker 1: they beat Senegal, in that kind of miraculous way, scoring
18:58
Speaker 1: the latest ever in a World Cup. Okay, that to me,
19:01
Speaker 1: that's like the old NTAA tournament thing where a team
19:04
Speaker 1: survives and all of a sudden they take a deep
19:07
Speaker 1: breath and they go on to the next one and
19:09
Speaker 1: then you realize, oh, they they've they've found something after
19:14
Speaker 1: their soccer wife, or the basketball version of it, their
19:18
Speaker 1: their their tournament wife flashed before their eyes. And I
19:21
Speaker 1: think Belgium found new life and they found themselves. They
19:25
Speaker 1: had not looked like the number ninth even the world
19:27
Speaker 1: at all throughout this sting, but they came out last
19:30
Speaker 1: night and they looked like it.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
19:32
Speaker 1: When we come back, we put soccer to the side
19:35
Speaker 1: momentarily because football this season is out still going on.
19:40
Speaker 1: But ESPN, with the Panther's biggest strength and weakness entering
19:46
Speaker 1: the season, they might surprise you find out. Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: ninety two seven Macket Bone showed here on this Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: pick up the pieces Tuesday as we try to figure
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Speaker 1: out what exactly happened to the US last night against Belgium.
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Speaker 1: It needs to be said also not trying to take
20:12
Speaker 1: away from the run that the US went on, but
20:15
Speaker 1: they didn't play the hardest draw leading up to this
20:18
Speaker 1: game either, So was there a lit old fool's gold
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Speaker 1: in there? And we ended up playing Belgium, who was
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Speaker 1: the best team so far? Maybe that's part of it too,
20:28
Speaker 1: although like I said, fiddy, Belgium had not played to
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Speaker 1: that level either. They barely survived in won in miracle
20:34
Speaker 1: fashion against Senegal.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know.
20:37
Speaker 1: I guess we ran into the best team, We ran
20:39
Speaker 1: into the best team we faced so far, and we
20:41
Speaker 1: played our worst so far. I guess that's the best
20:42
Speaker 1: way to describe it.
20:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was pretty much the way that Alexi Lawless
20:46
Speaker 4: put it on the FIFA on Fox postgame broadcast, talking
20:50
Speaker 4: about how the US picked the worst day to play
20:53
Speaker 4: the worst that they have played so far in the tournament.
20:56
Speaker 4: And I think i't seed Landon Donovan talking about, you know,
20:59
Speaker 4: they go where he expected them to get to, like
21:04
Speaker 4: he you know, because he was I guess very bullish
21:08
Speaker 4: on what they can maybe do in in this event,
21:11
Speaker 4: and there was the expectation for them to win the group,
21:14
Speaker 4: advanced out of the group. There was the expectation to
21:18
Speaker 4: beat Bosnia, which was the first time they'd been favored
21:21
Speaker 4: a knockout round match. I think, ever, if I have
21:24
Speaker 4: that stat remembered there correctly. But everyone thought this was
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Speaker 4: a Belgium side that had to come back in the
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Speaker 4: final minutes against Senegal. You know, they were down two goals,
21:34
Speaker 4: tied the match, Laten in the extra time scored the
21:37
Speaker 4: latest goal and World Cup history to advance to the
21:40
Speaker 4: round of sixteen. Everyone thought they were vulnerable, you know.
21:43
Speaker 4: John Strong said, you have to worry, worry about how
21:45
Speaker 4: how tired is this this team gonna be after having
21:48
Speaker 4: to exert so much energy in their last match. Didn't
21:51
Speaker 4: look tired to me, John. They ran circles around us.
21:55
Speaker 4: So it was disappointing. But I do think maybe tomorrow,
22:02
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it takes until Thursday, we'll be able to
22:06
Speaker 4: really look back and reflect on what was a pretty
22:09
Speaker 4: fun and magical three weeks for US soccer.
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Speaker 1: We will focus at the top of the seven o'clock
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Speaker 1: hour more on what does this mean for the future,
22:18
Speaker 1: does this completely you know, take away what you think
22:22
Speaker 1: we can be or do we need some reflection time
22:26
Speaker 1: to try to figure out what exactly happened. That's at
22:28
Speaker 1: the top of the seven o'clock hour right now. Without
22:31
Speaker 1: the World Cup, our minds in full here soon will
22:35
Speaker 1: start to fully focus on whether it's college football season
22:39
Speaker 1: or the Panther season. This season and analyzing roster season,
22:45
Speaker 1: if you will, is still out there in full.
22:48
Speaker 3: Fiddy.
22:48
Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports yesterday excuse me, SI dot com yesterday put
22:54
Speaker 1: out the top five cornerback duos in football. Number five
22:59
Speaker 1: was Patrick rick Certain and Riley Moss or Ja Kwon McMillan.
23:02
Speaker 1: He was in there as well. The Rams new duo
23:05
Speaker 1: of tre McDuffie and Jayalen Watson was four, Seattle was
23:09
Speaker 1: three with Witherspoon and Eamon Worri, Number two was Houston,
23:15
Speaker 1: Lasseter and Stingley, and number one was the Young Eagles
23:19
Speaker 1: duo in Mitchell and de Gene. I'm not saying that
23:24
Speaker 1: the Panther duo was snubbed by any means, but where
23:27
Speaker 1: would you say that our duo may rank Horn and
23:32
Speaker 1: Mike Jack are they Are they a top ten duo?
23:35
Speaker 1: Where do you think that ultimately they can end up here.
23:37
Speaker 2: I would say there that they are top ten duo.
23:41
Speaker 4: I think was probably hurting them from getting, you know,
23:43
Speaker 4: a top five ranking was just the inconsistency you saw
23:46
Speaker 4: from Mike Jack in the first third of the year
23:49
Speaker 4: last year. Bone like Mike jack played the way he
23:52
Speaker 4: played from let's just say the Green Bay game on
23:55
Speaker 4: last year for the entire season, combined with what j C.
23:59
Speaker 4: Horn is able to do, I think there'd be a
24:01
Speaker 4: lot more national respect for for those two guys. I
24:04
Speaker 4: still think they're an under that they're a top ten
24:07
Speaker 4: duo in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: Owns penalties. Also, he he didn't necessarily have his best
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Speaker 1: year last year.
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Speaker 4: He did not, And I think, you know, that's what
24:17
Speaker 4: was really impressive about about Mike Jackson is we put
24:21
Speaker 4: so much faith and trust into JC and I'm certainly
24:25
Speaker 4: guilty of that. But he wasn't the best corner last
24:28
Speaker 4: year either, Like Mike jack was was the best corner
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Speaker 4: despite him having those issues and some of those games
24:34
Speaker 4: early on, i e. Against the Patriots, the Cowboys, and
24:38
Speaker 4: the Dolphins. So I think if Mike jack carries that
24:41
Speaker 4: level of play over this year, J C. Horn gets
24:44
Speaker 4: a little less handsy, gets some of those penalties to
24:47
Speaker 4: be cleaned up.
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Speaker 2: I think we could do that when we do this list.
24:50
Speaker 4: Next year, you can see that that that that than
24:52
Speaker 4: being inside that top five.
24:54
Speaker 1: Now Yahoo Sports Frank Schwab is putting out his and
24:59
Speaker 1: if Power rankings right now. He has the Falcons at
25:05
Speaker 1: twenty six, Giants at twenty four, Saints excuse me, Falcons
25:10
Speaker 1: twenty six, Giants twenty five, Saints twenty four, and yesterday
25:14
Speaker 1: checked in with the Panthers at number twenty three. I
25:19
Speaker 1: like the fact that they are ahead of the Saints
25:21
Speaker 1: and the Falcons.
25:22
Speaker 3: What's bey honest?
25:23
Speaker 1: If they finished fitty twenty third best team in the
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Speaker 1: league this year, that's a disappointment that we haven't seen
25:30
Speaker 1: since the US ben soccer team I was played.
25:31
Speaker 4: And if they're checking in twenty third, but they're ahead
25:35
Speaker 4: of the Falcons and ahead of the Saints, right, that
25:38
Speaker 4: would suggest to me they're gonna come in behind the Buccaneers.
25:42
Speaker 4: And I maybe I'm just looking at this through black
25:46
Speaker 4: and blue lenses. I liked what Carolina did in the
25:49
Speaker 4: offseason more than what Tampa did in the offseason, and
25:51
Speaker 4: I know they were able to add Ashean Robinson to
25:54
Speaker 4: their defensive front. But I like the additions of Lloyd
25:59
Speaker 4: and Phillips to the Panthers front seven. I really liked
26:03
Speaker 4: what they were able to do in the draft, particularly
26:05
Speaker 4: on on Day two. And you know, I guess we
26:09
Speaker 4: have to see how this all plays out. But yeah, Bone,
26:12
Speaker 4: if if they finished the season with the twenty third
26:16
Speaker 4: best record in the National Football League or their ranking
26:19
Speaker 4: would come in twenty third, I would say that it
26:24
Speaker 4: would be a disappointment because they didn't build off the
26:27
Speaker 4: success of last year.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what the reason why Frank Schwab basically
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Speaker 1: had them twenty third in the league.
26:34
Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume he's not a big Bresce young guy.
26:36
Speaker 1: It's Bryce Young and the schedule. Whenever you see them
26:40
Speaker 1: rank that well, because normally, I shouldn't say normally, a
26:43
Speaker 1: lot of times in these power rankings they fall, you
26:45
Speaker 1: know what, seventeen eighteen, nineteen. But when they're that low,
26:50
Speaker 1: normally it's the schedule and or Bryce Young.
26:53
Speaker 3: Are the two reasons. And there you go on that one.
26:55
Speaker 4: Did Frank Schwab watch him win a game at lambeau
26:58
Speaker 4: Field last year against the Packers, who at the time
27:01
Speaker 4: were number one in the NFC, beat the Rams at
27:04
Speaker 4: home last year at the time when the Rams were
27:07
Speaker 4: first place in the NFC, And oh, I don't know,
27:10
Speaker 4: go throw for throw, play for play, used for a
27:13
Speaker 4: drive with the MVP in the playoffs last year.
27:16
Speaker 1: He used the word lucky to describe how they won
27:18
Speaker 1: some games last year. Also, he's not a big believer.
27:21
Speaker 1: This is Frank Schwab from Yahoo also not a big
27:24
Speaker 1: believer in the defense making the league this year. He
27:28
Speaker 1: says that they might be an offseason away from being
27:30
Speaker 1: a top half of the league defense, which I think
27:32
Speaker 1: here we've kind of thought, hey, we're not only talking
27:36
Speaker 1: top half, we're talking maybe top ten. We're not talking
27:38
Speaker 1: top fifteen sixteen. We're talking top ten defense. He doesn't
27:41
Speaker 1: think they're there yet.
27:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I.
27:44
Speaker 4: Think the floor for this defense is to is top twelve, Like,
27:48
Speaker 4: I think that's the floor. I think there's a scenario. Yeah,
27:51
Speaker 4: we're talking about a top ten defense depending on how
27:55
Speaker 4: you you know. Is it top ten defense and points
27:58
Speaker 4: per game? Is it top ten d defense? And yards allowed?
28:01
Speaker 4: Is a top ten defense in the in in d
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Speaker 4: o A, you've got different analyoks at people.
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Speaker 1: Vout is when you you show up in your oh
28:11
Speaker 1: you're dead on arrived, and we we don't like that.
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Speaker 3: Kind of like what would you say? Last night? Soccer
28:16
Speaker 3: team was the O A.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I was gonna make a waffles joke,
28:20
Speaker 4: but I think it's too early.
28:22
Speaker 3: But that's a great point. I'm gonna do we ban
28:24
Speaker 3: waffles for a while.
28:26
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a big waffle guy as it is.
28:29
Speaker 4: You know, I tried to get it stirring up in
28:31
Speaker 4: the group chat the other day and you came to
28:33
Speaker 4: the defense of waffles. Josh hart Nick's NBA champion, tweeted
28:38
Speaker 4: this out last night. Pancakes are greater than waffles. You
28:42
Speaker 4: know what else is great in the waffles, French toast
28:45
Speaker 4: at So at some point French toast needs to get
28:49
Speaker 4: the respect that it deserves. Because from that trio of
28:53
Speaker 4: breakfast items waffle, French toes, pancake, if I had my
28:59
Speaker 4: choice of which I'm choosing out a buffet, I'm getting
29:02
Speaker 4: the French toast, man, because the French toast is the
29:05
Speaker 4: most versatile of those three items, because you don't do
29:08
Speaker 4: you see waffle sticks, you see pancakes sticks I can get,
29:12
Speaker 4: I can go get French toast sticks at a fast
29:14
Speaker 4: food place. I think we do a lot of different
29:16
Speaker 4: things with French toasts that you cannot do with others.
29:19
Speaker 3: So we've really gone off the rails here. And I
29:22
Speaker 3: kind of like this.
29:22
Speaker 1: I would rank them waffles, French toasts, pancakes. As I've
29:28
Speaker 1: gotten older, pancakes has falling down a little because they
29:30
Speaker 1: are kind of heavy. Like if I start by, if
29:33
Speaker 1: I start my day with pancakes, I'm in.
29:35
Speaker 2: Trouble unless you get flapjacks.
29:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this though. What I like about
29:39
Speaker 1: waffles is the little pockets that contains you can drop
29:44
Speaker 1: the butter and the syrup in those pockets. They are
29:46
Speaker 1: the cargo shorts or breakfast foods. They can carry everything
29:49
Speaker 1: for you.
29:50
Speaker 2: That is that is a fair point.
29:53
Speaker 3: I just see that comparison coming to you.
29:55
Speaker 2: I did not.
29:56
Speaker 4: I just I prefer and I maybe eat French toast
29:59
Speaker 4: like tw year, Like it's very very rare that French
30:03
Speaker 4: toe shows up on the table. But when I do
30:06
Speaker 4: have it, I enjoyed a lot more than I enjoy waffles,
30:09
Speaker 4: a lot more than I.
30:10
Speaker 3: Enjoyed pankin what was our topic here?
30:12
Speaker 2: We were talking about the Panthers.
30:13
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's get back to that.
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Speaker 1: Send in your breakfast thoughts seven oh four five, seven
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Speaker 1: that really caught my eye, and we're going to do
30:25
Speaker 1: a full discussion on where Aaron shot of ESPN and
30:31
Speaker 1: his analytics where he ranked the Panther starters in the
30:34
Speaker 1: league at eight o'clock. But they also on that article
30:38
Speaker 1: that Aaron Shotts did, they they listed off what they
30:41
Speaker 1: thought was the each team's biggest strength and weakness fitty
30:46
Speaker 1: and biggest strength and weakness sort of caught my eye.
30:49
Speaker 1: They listed offensive line entering the season as the Panther's
30:55
Speaker 1: biggest strength. So it wasn't something on defense. It was
30:59
Speaker 1: they that there's offensive line, which is kind of wild
31:03
Speaker 1: when you think about all they had to do to
31:05
Speaker 1: get it to that point.
31:05
Speaker 2: And the question that exists at left tackle.
31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess they I guess they believe in
31:10
Speaker 1: Walker to be able to hold it down. I I
31:14
Speaker 1: guess with the guards. Yeah, I mean, it's not a
31:16
Speaker 1: to me, it's not a weakness. But it was a
31:19
Speaker 1: little bit surprising that they did put it as the
31:21
Speaker 1: biggest strength of the team.
31:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that does that does raise a really good question.
31:28
Speaker 3: What is the biggest strength of the team.
31:30
Speaker 2: What is the biggest strength of the Panthers Right now?
31:34
Speaker 3: It could be the defensive front, but there's a question.
31:37
Speaker 2: That's where I was going with the line.
31:39
Speaker 1: We have to see Phillips and play, we have to
31:42
Speaker 1: see score. In year two, we have to figure out
31:44
Speaker 1: the spot. And that's Derek Brown. I think by the
31:46
Speaker 1: end of the year we might say, oh, yeah, it's
31:49
Speaker 1: the defensive front. Secondary to me, but there's you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: there's a safety question. But Horn, Mike, Jack and merrig
31:57
Speaker 1: that's that to me is pretty damn good.
31:59
Speaker 4: Tree And the thing about that safety spot, because I
32:02
Speaker 4: agree with you, Nick Scott wasn't the liability last year
32:07
Speaker 4: that I had labeled him to be going into the year. Like,
32:11
Speaker 4: I was really concerned about Mike Scott and the role
32:14
Speaker 4: he was gonna have.
32:17
Speaker 2: Why I called him Mike Scott, I thought that.
32:20
Speaker 1: We don't we don't. We don't make mistakes here, all right,
32:23
Speaker 1: as a co host, you just don't do that.
32:26
Speaker 2: I thought he played really, really well.
32:29
Speaker 4: I know people are gonna point out the flag and
32:31
Speaker 4: the loss of the Rams in the playoff game, but
32:35
Speaker 4: I thought he had a much better year all things considering.
32:39
Speaker 2: I would vote, and I'd probably go secondary.
32:42
Speaker 4: I'd probably I'd probably lean that just slightly slightly over
32:46
Speaker 4: that defensive front. Just because you do have that question
32:49
Speaker 4: with Ashan Gon who was playing opposite Derek Brown.
32:52
Speaker 1: Do you have a guess on who Aaron shotts at
32:56
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com what area they listed as the team's
33:00
Speaker 1: biggest weakness. This one is one you normally don't see
33:07
Speaker 1: a lot of on this for this team.
33:12
Speaker 4: I was gonna say linebacker, offensive side of the ball.
33:17
Speaker 3: They listed running backs as the team's biggest weakness.
33:21
Speaker 4: I'm open to that because you don't know what you
33:23
Speaker 4: have behind Ceba Hubbard.
33:25
Speaker 1: If that's the case end of the season, we got
33:26
Speaker 1: a problem because that means Brooks is not progressing and
33:28
Speaker 1: we've called him the biggest X factor on the team. Look,
33:32
Speaker 1: if you want to say that, now, I get that.
33:34
Speaker 1: But if we get into you know, mid September October,
33:38
Speaker 1: and that's the case that Huba's not running well, and
33:42
Speaker 1: also if the offensive line is the biggest strength of
33:45
Speaker 1: the team, well then I would assume that helps out
33:48
Speaker 1: the running backs there who you now have as the
33:50
Speaker 1: biggest weakness right now, So you would think that your
33:53
Speaker 1: biggest strength would help out your biggest weakness ESPN dot
33:56
Speaker 1: Com right, like, these guys are great, but these guys
33:59
Speaker 1: are Look if the offensive line holds up in the
34:02
Speaker 1: run game. Now I know Ike, he's not in there,
34:04
Speaker 1: who's a great run blocker, But still I don't look.
34:09
Speaker 1: I of course we worry about Brooks because of the
34:12
Speaker 1: unknown and the injuries. To say we're not concerned about Brooks. Yeah,
34:16
Speaker 1: we have to see him stay healthy. But I'm looking
34:20
Speaker 1: at the upside of that guy, and I think by
34:22
Speaker 1: the end of the year, if he does stay healthy,
34:26
Speaker 1: which is a question, I think Brooks takes over.
34:29
Speaker 3: As a number one guy on this.
34:30
Speaker 1: Team because of his ability to catch bloout of the
34:33
Speaker 1: backfield as well and being a safety val for Bryce
34:36
Speaker 1: that he really doesn't have at a tight end spot.
34:38
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's a tight end, but he can be
34:40
Speaker 1: that guy that you say, oh I'm in trouble, dump
34:42
Speaker 1: down away we go.
34:44
Speaker 4: That's a fair point. I'll be interested to see. I
34:49
Speaker 4: do think if he's healthy bone there is there is
34:52
Speaker 4: potential there, and I think internally, you think the Panthers
34:56
Speaker 4: are maybe rooting for that for him to maybe emerge
34:59
Speaker 4: as RB one, just because I think he is more
35:02
Speaker 4: dynamic and more explosive and versatile than Cuba Hubbard.
35:05
Speaker 2: They won't they won't say it outwardly because of the
35:07
Speaker 2: role that Cuba has as a leader.
35:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wonder when they're talking behind closed doors,
35:13
Speaker 4: I wonder if they're kind of whispering if this guy's healthy,
35:17
Speaker 4: it would benefit us as a football team for him
35:19
Speaker 4: to become our our our lead.
35:22
Speaker 3: Best well because they traded up for him.
35:23
Speaker 1: It was Morgan's first draft, right, and we get has
35:27
Speaker 1: it panned out, although Cocher as it undrafted free agent
35:30
Speaker 1: has But you know, Dan Morgan's just ego wise has
35:34
Speaker 1: to be thinking, all right, I need I need that
35:36
Speaker 1: draft to be a little more solidified. If XL's not
35:39
Speaker 1: going to work out, the guy had traded for also
35:41
Speaker 1: can't fail. So you're probably right, there probably is some
35:44
Speaker 1: internal like, hey, we invested in this guy. Uh, we
35:47
Speaker 1: don't want to have him go down as a miss.
35:49
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Speaker 1: he would pay her back by selling his. Organs you
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Speaker 1: talk ABOUT i have a theory here on these. Things
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Speaker 1: if you are at the point that you would sell
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Speaker 1: your organs to, somebody you might be in.
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Speaker 3: Trouble that's my.
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Speaker 1: Line that's my, line BECAUSE i gotta tell YOU i
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Speaker 1: value my organs a. Lot, YEAH i don't use all
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Speaker 1: my organs all the, time BUT i know that they're.
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Speaker 1: Valuable you never use one of your organs by the
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Speaker 1: way how many.
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Speaker 4: Days now four, years two, months twenty eight, days twelve,
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Speaker 4: hours twenty seven, minutes fourteen seconds and.
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Speaker 1: Counting get by the way he sold these he tried
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Speaker 1: to see he was the frauding. PEOPLE i believe On
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Speaker 1: facebook marketplace is what he was. Doing Also facebook or,
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Speaker 1: whatever you could sell your fresh organ fitty On facebook
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Speaker 1: market WHICH i think you kind of do, ANYWAY.
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Speaker 2: I need to start doing.
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Speaker 3: That this is a wild one.
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Speaker 2: HERE i am really really.
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Speaker 3: Glad tending his.
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Speaker 1: Mom needed cancer treatment was how he was how he
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Speaker 1: was getting money out of.
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Speaker 4: People this was a player THAT i, think for two
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Speaker 4: transfer portal, cycles begged and pleaded and made the case
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Speaker 4: for Why North, carolina Why Hubert davis should want. HIM
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Speaker 4: i am really really glad they did. Not they did
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Speaker 4: not add him to the basketball.
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Speaker 1: Program tended to be a woman along the way Named
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Speaker 1: irene that needed.
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Speaker 3: MONEY i just.
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Speaker 4: Want TO i just want to, know between being a
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Speaker 4: full time college basketball player while being you, know so
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Speaker 4: supposed to be a full time student at these, universities
39:52
Speaker 4: amidst all the different travel and the, workouts how did
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Speaker 4: you have time to do? This AND i would just
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Speaker 4: love to see how many people knew about this before
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Speaker 4: he got car, Right, like there had to be a
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Speaker 4: buddy or two that knew that he was pretending to
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Speaker 4: be a, woman that he was scamming.
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Speaker 3: People did you hear About irene.
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Speaker 2: Scamming people out of out of?
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Speaker 4: Money this is this isn't what The brendan soarsby level
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Speaker 4: OF fbi, stuff but this is more.
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Speaker 3: Concerning, YEAH i mean you're you're selling.
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Speaker 1: ORGANS i, mean at some, point Though, swordsby if he
40:31
Speaker 1: kept gamble and made to sell his.
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Speaker 3: Organs but he didn't get to that. Point.
40:36
Speaker 1: Thankfully he's been released from his current. Team, fitty do
40:39
Speaker 1: you know what team he was? ON i have no
40:41
Speaker 1: idea where he's. At he's in THE tbt on The
40:43
Speaker 1: Kentucky alumni, team by the, Way Kentucky. Alumni he was
40:49
Speaker 1: there for about two and a half. Months, Right, yeah
40:53
Speaker 1: BUT i guess you know you talk about a guy
40:54
Speaker 1: playing hard though for your. Team he needed the money
40:57
Speaker 1: more than, anybody because this guy's about to lose a
40:59
Speaker 1: weaver and a.
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Speaker 3: Kidney if you didn't did they announce him.
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Speaker 1: As irene Guard irene And kentucky fans are, like who's?
41:07
Speaker 1: That we never had a guy Named irene on. Here
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Speaker 1: that's my impression Of kentucky. Fans by the, Way, fiddy
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Speaker 1: you sent us a list last.
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Speaker 2: NIGHT i knew this was gonna get.
41:16
Speaker 1: You really really burnt my biscuits last. Night and it
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Speaker 1: Is Chris lowe's of on Three sports top ten quarterbacks
41:26
Speaker 1: in THE sec entering the twenty twenty six. Season they've
41:31
Speaker 1: Got kenny. Minschee he's Got Kenny minschie Of kentucky, Ten
41:36
Speaker 1: Camarrio Taylor Mississippi state, Nine Byron Brown auburn, Eight Marcel
41:42
Speaker 1: reid seven OF a AND. M then he's Got Lenorris seller.
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Speaker 1: Six he's Got Sam levitt, Five lsu new to the scene,
41:51
Speaker 1: There John matteer, Four gunners stocked in Of georgia three
41:56
Speaker 1: and then number ONE a had. Two number One's Trinidad,
41:59
Speaker 1: chambele too's Arch. MANNING i can't argue, that LIKE i,
42:02
Speaker 1: agree like those guys are, Special they're they're at a
42:06
Speaker 1: very high. Level When Norris sellers Behind Sam, Levitt John
42:11
Speaker 1: mattier And Gunner, STOCKTON i have a problem With levitt's got,
42:15
Speaker 1: talent but he's new to THE. Sec there's a ceiling
42:19
Speaker 1: With John. Mattier we know he's, good but is he
42:22
Speaker 1: better than good last. Year he kind of fell awful
42:24
Speaker 1: on the. WAY i don't, know AND i Respect Gunner,
42:28
Speaker 1: stockton but he's At. Georgia if you Put Lenora's sellers
42:33
Speaker 1: with those offensive linemen and that talent there in full
42:36
Speaker 1: and say go play quarterback for, Us Lenora's sellers is
42:39
Speaker 1: probably in The Heisman trophy. Discussion you Put Gunner stockton
42:42
Speaker 1: last year behind the offensive line That Lenora sellers had
42:45
Speaker 1: to play through play. With what Is Gunner stockton last?
42:48
Speaker 3: Year to?
42:49
Speaker 1: ME i Think Lenora's sellers belongs Behind shambliss And Arch.
42:54
Speaker 1: Manning BUT i think he's the third best quarterback in
42:56
Speaker 1: this conference when he's when he's got the right.
42:58
Speaker 4: Help, YEAH i have no problem With Sam levitt being
43:02
Speaker 4: ranked ahead of.
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Speaker 2: Him he Took Arizona state to the.
43:05
Speaker 4: Playoff he's gonna play in A qb friendly, system be
43:08
Speaker 4: coached By Lane. Kiffin if he stays, healthy he could
43:12
Speaker 4: he could emerge as the best quarterback in THE sec
43:15
Speaker 4: this upcoming. Year The materi thing is interesting because you
43:19
Speaker 4: mentioned there being a, ceiling but before the injury into
43:22
Speaker 4: his hand popped, up there Were Heisman trophy conversations around
43:26
Speaker 4: him last Year, now part of that bone was that
43:30
Speaker 4: there just wasn't that clear Like Heisman trophy front. Runner
43:34
Speaker 4: it took us really late into the year before that
43:37
Speaker 4: the guy that was going to when The heisman did.
43:39
Speaker 4: Emerge but we were having those conversations About matier with
43:43
Speaker 4: what he was able to do if he transferred in
43:46
Speaker 4: From Washington. State SO i at worst case, Scenario i'd
43:51
Speaker 4: Have leonora's fifth because BECAUSE i would have him Behind
43:55
Speaker 4: chambliss And i'm drinking the arts cool after the way
43:59
Speaker 4: that he finished season last. Year best case scenario for
44:03
Speaker 4: what you brought up the argument he's a better all
44:06
Speaker 4: around player Than Gunner. Stockton, yes and If stockton was In,
44:14
Speaker 4: columbia he would not be the third ranked quarterback in THE.
44:17
Speaker 4: Sec If Leonora sellers was In athens and had all
44:22
Speaker 4: That georgia has to offer, him we'd probably be talking
44:27
Speaker 4: About georgia as the front running favorite to win THE
44:30
Speaker 4: sec and probably at least get back to the national title.
44:34
Speaker 4: Game but that's just not the reality. SITUATION i do
44:37
Speaker 4: think Why georgia will not achieve those things is because
44:40
Speaker 4: they don't have that difference maker at the quarterback.
44:44
Speaker 1: SPOT i know this is dangerous to, say, too because
44:46
Speaker 1: these guys are are new to their. SCHOOLS i Know
44:48
Speaker 1: Byron brown From South florida To auburn is pretty highly.
44:52
Speaker 1: Touted but the depth of the we talk about the
44:55
Speaker 1: changing of the guard fitting and college, football not exactly
44:58
Speaker 1: the deepest quarterback class there at byto with the top
45:01
Speaker 1: ten right now as we look at. It Marcel reid
45:04
Speaker 1: struggled down the stretch last year for a and M
45:06
Speaker 1: Byron brown maybe moves up this list a little. Bit we'll,
45:09
Speaker 1: see But Camarrio, Taylor Mississippi, State Kenny, Mitchie. Kentucky starting
45:14
Speaker 1: to see where a little bit of the transfer portals
45:16
Speaker 1: hitting THE sec quarterbacks. Here, yeah guys are coming, in
45:19
Speaker 1: but that's not the deepest group that we've seen in this.
45:22
Speaker 4: Conference, yeah you're seeing guys come, in they commit to these,
45:26
Speaker 4: schools and they may get developed to a certain level
45:29
Speaker 4: by these, schools but then they're leaving in the portal
45:31
Speaker 4: because they're getting paid by other. SCHOOLS i. Think BUT
45:35
Speaker 4: i think THE sec season is going to be absolutely
45:38
Speaker 4: fascinating BECAUSE i don't really know outside of, like you,
45:44
Speaker 4: KNOW i think it's fair to say What Texas cannon will.
45:48
Speaker 4: BE i THINK i know What georgia can and will.
45:52
Speaker 4: Be AND i Think i'm very confident IN. LSU i
45:56
Speaker 4: think outside of, that, man, like is it a guarantee that,
45:59
Speaker 4: Band i'm a?
46:00
Speaker 2: Ghost ten and?
46:00
Speaker 4: Two If bama's a playoff team this, year are we
46:03
Speaker 4: sure That Ole miss is going to build off what
46:06
Speaker 4: they did last year in the playoff or how much
46:08
Speaker 4: of that run was just them rallying behind their head
46:11
Speaker 4: coach quitting on.
46:12
Speaker 3: Them but they Have champbells.
46:13
Speaker 2: Back they do Have Chamberlas. Black you played it, again insane.
46:16
Speaker 3: Guy they've Got lacey back as, well right running? Back they.
46:19
Speaker 4: Do BUT i Is Pete golden ready to be that guy?
46:22
Speaker 4: Weekend it's easy to motivate a team in the playoff
46:25
Speaker 4: when your coach quits on, You LIKE i is he
46:29
Speaker 4: ready to be the guy week, in week out at
46:32
Speaker 4: a school that now has expectations on an annual basis
46:35
Speaker 4: because because What Lan kiffin was able to do In.
46:37
Speaker 4: OXFORD i don't, know, MAN i know that people get
46:40
Speaker 4: tired of us talking about THE, Sec BUT i am
46:43
Speaker 4: going to be fascinated to watch this league on a
46:46
Speaker 4: weekend weekend basis this year.
46:47
Speaker 1: In oklahoma's got top ten hype as. Well i've got
46:50
Speaker 1: The Sporting news right. Here they've Got oklahoma number. Nine
46:54
Speaker 1: so another interesting part about college football IS i just
46:56
Speaker 1: read the top ten year From Sporting. News is you
46:59
Speaker 1: know A big ten has Been Ohio, State, Michigan Penn,
47:02
Speaker 1: state Net. Oregon there's a lot of hype this. Year
47:05
Speaker 1: you're starting to see through the. SUMMER Us seed's getting
47:08
Speaker 1: a lot of hype as. Well so The big ten's
47:11
Speaker 1: been good and they've won. Championships throw A top TEN
47:14
Speaker 1: usc in that mase all of a, sudden the depth
47:16
Speaker 1: of that conference grows out even.
47:17
Speaker 4: More and the two schools that you just mentioned there
47:19
Speaker 4: that are getting a lot of hype as we're getting
47:21
Speaker 4: closer and closer to the, Season OKLAHOMA.
47:24
Speaker 2: Usc what are those two schools have in?
47:26
Speaker 4: Common these feel like make or break years For Brent
47:30
Speaker 4: vinnables And norman And Lincoln riley IN La, like it
47:33
Speaker 4: feels like they have really got to hit something to
47:36
Speaker 4: secure themselves if they want to be there for the long.
47:39
Speaker 1: Haul we didn't get she had to get to it.
47:41
Speaker 1: Here maybe, tomorrow but The College football Video game out
47:44
Speaker 1: in full On. Thursday looking forward to getting reactions from
47:48
Speaker 1: that as the week goes, Along we come. Back THE
47:50
Speaker 1: us gets embarrassed last night By. Belgium how do we
47:55
Speaker 1: react not only to the performance of last, night but
47:58
Speaker 1: what does that mean for the hope for the future
48:01
Speaker 1: and exists make you think that we're never going to get,
48:04
Speaker 1: there and you, say hold.
48:05
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