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Hour Two | What Went Wrong in Nashville, U2, and LSU Baseball at the White House · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in our number two of O
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  Speaker 5: Anybody remember the name of a dried up river or
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  Speaker 5: river that is not all wet.
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't have experience an arroy you.
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  Speaker 3: I was right on tip of my tope right there.
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  Speaker 2: Carlo is a really good point guard.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's it as a whole fact.
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  Speaker 4: The name gotcha, uh, Cody in said the Bouty four
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  Speaker 4: Chattel love how everyone into the station picked LSU to win,
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  Speaker 4: yet the chat is hating on the scone and celebrating
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  Speaker 4: him being wrong. Cody, you think, like when we do
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  Speaker 4: the picks with Marlar by the way, and yeah we did,
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  Speaker 4: I'll pick LSU and in the picks of the other games,
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  Speaker 4: I think I went undefeated.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the most.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna hear about it, because it's like we get
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  Speaker 4: those in me and Matt sometimes we look at each
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  Speaker 4: and be like, hey, this sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, Sin,
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't put a lot into that. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 4: honest with you. I'm not gonna have my picture next
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  Speaker 4: to somebody else's logo. I'm gonna tell you that right
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  Speaker 4: now l should be twenty eight point dogs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be the same.
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  Speaker 5: I think this is the week.
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  Speaker 2: This is the week.
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  Speaker 5: That's what that's gonna be our thought process.
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  Speaker 4: I might just put like a picture of Marshawn Lynch
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  Speaker 4: and just my score prediction. I'm here so I don't
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  Speaker 4: get fined. Yeah that makes you feel Maybe that makes
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  Speaker 4: you feel better about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I wouldn't look at when we when you're
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  Speaker 5: asking LSU fans, I don't care if we do radio
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  Speaker 5: or not to pick a score for LSU. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: pick with my heart. I pick what I want. Would
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  Speaker 5: I want the score to be? Yeah, it's what I'm like.
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  Speaker 5: Why not.
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  Speaker 3: I did speak to a.
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  Speaker 4: Group in Nashville on Friday, and I could tell they
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  Speaker 4: didn't like my vibe of how it needs you to
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit or positive to I was like, look,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you where they're really good and it
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  Speaker 4: could be uh be a little troubles me if if
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  Speaker 4: if you didn't contain. My whole point was like, if
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  Speaker 4: you don't contain, diego Pavia and you don't have good discipline, Yep,
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  Speaker 4: this is what can happen. And so many times in
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  Speaker 4: that game, you had the right call, like Blake Baker
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  Speaker 4: had the right call, the execution wasn't there and it
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  Speaker 4: was clear as day to see, like when you rushed
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  Speaker 4: from the outside and you're the guy who is rushing
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  Speaker 4: off the edge, be it at a corner, be it
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  Speaker 4: a linebacker star or whatever. When you rush, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: rush to the upfield shoulder, like the highest point because
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  Speaker 4: you're contained right in Diego Pavia, how many times he
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  Speaker 4: saw that you rushing into his front shoulder and he
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  Speaker 4: had old spin move, yeah, and bro Contein and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of all hell breaks loose when that happens to
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  Speaker 4: that guy.
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  Speaker 3: That guy's really good.
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  Speaker 5: At it, and a guy's gonna look kind of like
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  Speaker 5: that's gonna make his plays in any game that he played.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care what defense he's playing, even if you
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  Speaker 5: have the perfect technique, but you did kind of make
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  Speaker 5: it easy on him by just taking bad, like you said,
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  Speaker 5: bad rush angles. But then I just I just felt
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  Speaker 5: like there was bad angles taken all over the field
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  Speaker 5: throughout that game. I didn't think there was that many
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  Speaker 5: mental mistakes, Like I didn't watch it. Of course, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't watch the defensive film against Vanderbilt with as close
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  Speaker 5: of an eye as I did the offense, because the
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  Speaker 5: offensive struggles are more way more glaring, yeah than the
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  Speaker 5: defensive struggles. But I just didn't notice as many missed
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  Speaker 5: assignments and things that were glaring, except for you know,
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  Speaker 5: just physically, we didn't as a whole. We didn't make
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  Speaker 5: the plays. You didn't take the right angles, you couldn't
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  Speaker 5: get down on the ground. You just didn't make the
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  Speaker 5: plays that you were like an opportunity presented itself. And
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  Speaker 5: then when you do that against a guy that is
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  Speaker 5: playing his ass off like Diego Pavia and a team
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  Speaker 5: that is outstandingly coached for the details of every every position.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody on that field did their one to eleven, did
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  Speaker 5: their job and was coached to do their job, and
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  Speaker 5: executed it from like a very very minor detail to
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  Speaker 5: a big picture thing. And when you got a guy
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  Speaker 5: that plays off schedule like that, there's a couple of
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  Speaker 5: plays you just you got to take your hat off
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  Speaker 5: to him and be like, hey, hell of a play man,
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  Speaker 5: got there's there's there's not a defense we can call
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  Speaker 5: up to defend that play you just made, because you
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  Speaker 5: can't expect a guy that's beating you with his feet
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  Speaker 5: to scramble around for eight seconds. Back there, of course
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  Speaker 5: in the back is blocking. Of course, the guy that
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  Speaker 5: has the backman demand is gonna be like, all right,
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  Speaker 5: it's been like eight seconds. I'm gonna try to rest
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  Speaker 5: this quarterback now. And the running back of course pops
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  Speaker 5: free and more time buys more time. Like it just
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  Speaker 5: plays that are gonna happen. But when you were presented
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  Speaker 5: the opportunity to make plays, it just it didn't always
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  Speaker 5: didn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: But again, let's yeah, we can we can get into
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  Speaker 4: some of the defensive stuff and maybe here in the
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  Speaker 4: next couple of seconds we can actually pull it up
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  Speaker 4: and show you because like the thing for the defense.
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  Speaker 3: And I know I've heard people be like, oh this
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  Speaker 3: defense they said they were relieve they're not.
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  Speaker 4: But if you watch it, like the things that happened
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  Speaker 4: to the defense, like when Vanderbilt just lined up and
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  Speaker 4: ran the football, which they've done on everybody, they didn't
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  Speaker 4: make any hay.
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  Speaker 3: It was the off schedule stuff. They gave you problems.
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  Speaker 4: The receivers didn't really have placed Now the tight ends
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  Speaker 4: yet again all old miss game gave you trouble. The
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  Speaker 4: tight end continues to give you trouble. But it was
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  Speaker 4: the chaotic plays that you didn't handle. And this felt
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  Speaker 4: like a game in which, like there's games Witweeks can miss,
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  Speaker 4: this was a bad one for him to miss because
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  Speaker 4: maybe he could handle some of the chaos. But look,
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  Speaker 4: there's quarterbacks that you're about to play won this week
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  Speaker 4: certainly went against Oklahoma. Guess where they thrive in the chaos.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not an excuse, it's just facts that that's
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  Speaker 4: what you didn't handle well. And like on the fourth down,
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  Speaker 4: like Jack Pibrin has a good rush. It surprises Diego
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  Speaker 4: Pavia and like he because they had it. That was
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  Speaker 4: a throwback screen. Nobody's called it that, but that's what
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  Speaker 4: it was on the fourth down. It was a throwback
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  Speaker 4: screen to the running back and you can see the
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  Speaker 4: offensive lineman set the release, and so Diego Pavia gets
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  Speaker 4: surprised because Jack Pibrin's in his face right now. He
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  Speaker 4: doesn't bite on the play action or I think it
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  Speaker 4: was play action to the right.
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  Speaker 3: Either way, we'll go back and look at it.
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  Speaker 4: And so Diego's like, oh gosh, I gotta buy some
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  Speaker 4: time because this has got to develop. And he makes
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  Speaker 4: you miss and he throws it back across and you've
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  Speaker 4: got Lineman there trying to get out there as well.
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  Speaker 4: It went wider than I think, but like that's a
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  Speaker 4: play where you had a guy in the backfield.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good rush, good play red.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he recognizes the play and the recognition of
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  Speaker 4: the plays right there. But Diego knew what he had.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't panic, he didn't get away from the play.
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  Speaker 4: He just continued to buy time. And then those are
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  Speaker 4: across the field on a fourth down conversion. Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think defensively, we I feel like in the
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  Speaker 5: game gets very close, very close to the entire game.
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  Speaker 5: It was like the game of like we were right there,
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  Speaker 5: like so close to stopping them multiple times. At the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day, when you look at the big picture,
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  Speaker 5: with the game still undecided, but still with then I
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  Speaker 5: think it was four points into the second half, get
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  Speaker 5: a big fourth down stop, give your offense the opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to take the lead going into halftime. How different does
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  Speaker 5: that game feel? They can execute and they get the
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  Speaker 5: ball in their own in Vanderbilt territory. Into the game,
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  Speaker 5: we hadn't been able to stop them, stop them. You
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  Speaker 5: get him two stops in a row to try to
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  Speaker 5: get back in that game and potentially take a lead.
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  Speaker 5: Much How different is the narrative this week? The offense
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  Speaker 5: executes the small things. Yeah, football is about the small things.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta execute the details, and we laid out a
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  Speaker 5: lot of those details. But so we can we can.
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  Speaker 5: We can sit here and harp on the defense is
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  Speaker 5: all we want. And they had plays to be made
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  Speaker 5: that weren't made. And sure there's certainly, of course there's clips,
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  Speaker 5: you know, floating all over the internet of LSU getting
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  Speaker 5: out physicaled in the trenches, which did happen, didn't happen
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  Speaker 5: every play. It's not like they just came out and
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  Speaker 5: physically dominated us every single play. But LSU needs LSU
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  Speaker 5: defense needs to get that swagger back a night game
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  Speaker 5: at home this week versus top three opponent. Get the
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  Speaker 5: swagger back, become the hammer again, don't be the nail
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  Speaker 5: because for a lot of that game this past weekend
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  Speaker 5: as a team as a whole, was the nail and
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  Speaker 5: not the hammer. So you got to get the swagger back.
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  Speaker 5: We got to get back, and it has to start
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  Speaker 5: with the defense. The offense has to make its improvement, certainly,
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  Speaker 5: but if we're going to win this game, if we
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  Speaker 5: want any chance to beat A and M this week
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  Speaker 5: at home, that defense is gonna have to come play
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  Speaker 5: with a tear on fire and dominate the.
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  Speaker 2: Game inside the boy four chats.
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  Speaker 4: So all you need is a good tight end and
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  Speaker 4: a mobile quarterback to beat Blake's defense. No, because there's
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  Speaker 4: somebody assigned to the tight end. He's gonna execute your
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  Speaker 4: job like it's man coverage. Is its man coverage? Like
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  Speaker 4: you don't leave.
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  Speaker 3: And that was a problem I think in the Vanderbilt game.
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  Speaker 4: And I haven't had a chance to ask like this,
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  Speaker 4: but like we're people trying to do too much to
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  Speaker 4: stop Diego Pavia. And you could see it live in
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  Speaker 4: the game any big down, any big down, and anytime
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  Speaker 4: that Diego Pavia put it in the running backs belly,
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  Speaker 4: like you had like four people like halt and stop.
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  Speaker 4: There's somebody for the running back, there's somebody for the
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  Speaker 4: tight end. There's somebody for Diego Pavia. And you have
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  Speaker 4: to play your part. We always talk about b your
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  Speaker 4: one to eleventh but and I get it. Look, I
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  Speaker 4: get it, like he's a game changer, he's taking it.
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  Speaker 4: But the problem was you were hon in on that,
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  Speaker 4: and even if you were doing your job, you froze
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  Speaker 4: and worried about him when he wasn't your responsibility. Then
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  Speaker 4: you're a second late getting to your responsibility. Then it's
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  Speaker 4: too late because it's a seven yard game.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, you're right. And I noticed that last the
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  Speaker 5: South Carolina game, I noticed breaking down the film watching
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  Speaker 5: how we how we went about defending Lenora's Sellers, especially
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  Speaker 5: like on third downs a lot of times there was
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  Speaker 5: two defenders that were spying him, and I thought it
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  Speaker 5: was like, I was curious when I was watching, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, you don't need two spies, you just need one.
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  Speaker 5: We ran We ran what was essentially a cover zero
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  Speaker 5: type defense against Lenora Sellers, so four across, four DB's
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  Speaker 5: across for four man to man on the receivers. It
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  Speaker 5: was clear like it was zero coverage. But the point
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  Speaker 5: of bringing to zero coverage is that you get one
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  Speaker 5: extra guy blitz in and you make the quarterback get
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  Speaker 5: the ball out really fast because you had an extra
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  Speaker 5: guy blitz and that can't be accounted for. But they
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  Speaker 5: they kind of took away their blitz advantage and left
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  Speaker 5: two linebackers to spy for Lenora's Sellers. Now it worked out, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but it was to me it was kind of an
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  Speaker 5: unsound approach to that. Now, maybe it was a misassignment, right,
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it was somebody was supposed to blitz and the
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't supposed to proy. But I've noticed multiple times
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  Speaker 5: in this past game, Pavey is scrambling out and two
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  Speaker 5: people trying to account for him. Harold Perkins leaving any
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  Speaker 5: thought that he have of being a curl flat defender
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  Speaker 5: or a post defender, or a man defender for that matter,
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  Speaker 5: to go chase Pavia from like twenty yards away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just can't do it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, you get away with it a lot
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  Speaker 4: because you are an athletic, freaking you can close that
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  Speaker 4: gap against Clemson. You did it, and Kate Clebnick didn't
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  Speaker 4: have an answer for it. The Eagle Paviy is not
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  Speaker 4: Kate Clubnick, and it was something that then got you
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  Speaker 4: multiple multiple time.
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  Speaker 5: A LSU two and two versus quarterbacks this season. So
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  Speaker 5: let's get back to the winning record.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we will take a break, continue some more
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  Speaker 4: of this conversation. I do want to get to the
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  Speaker 4: Saints at some point today, and I know we have
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  Speaker 4: uh Nick Underhill joining us at nine to go over it.
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  Speaker 3: Man, he's probably gonna be so excited.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna get him on film. I want to see
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  Speaker 5: the joy in this face.
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  Speaker 5: in my wife's car, you know, it automatically would like
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  Speaker 5: connect to your phone or whatever it was, YouTube and
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: YouTube will start playing. I'm like, you love YouTube. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: swear I never listened to them, but it always plays
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: on my phone every time I start the car.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, how did you miss that?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I really that was the thing.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: YEA plus he was in green Bay.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure news travels there automatically.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: It was part of like a software update.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they literally just put it on your phone.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Everybody. It happened to everyone.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: It happened to YouTube.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: There's our button sound board.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I feel violated here.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's pretty violated.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got violated, Bud.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: They fully violated you. We all got violated by YouTube.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Like great little lawsuit against that. My wife had to
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: listen to those songs every time.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: She turned limitations is over there?
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: Like, hey guys, somebody Matt Felin issuing fifteen years later,
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: apparently he just found out about.
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: This is still the backup quarterback in Green Bay.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: The published art.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know why that. Maybe giggle so hard last
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: night when you sent that in the group chat. It's
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: called being a poolished.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: It's called being a poolished ardor Alandro.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I know, I wouldn't know about it. Do we want
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: some good news?
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Bring the back?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: L C Baseball all up in the White House.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: So was l C Streetporte.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Let's go undefeated baseball Sea Yeah yeah, God they were dominant.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: We've all said it. LSU shreetport Su predominant, no doubt,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: real and great.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: I think they we read the stats off in the summer.
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, like they like sept records for like consecutive wins
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: all that, Like they're they were like, actually, we're.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Saying the best baseball team Louisiana.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That was that actually would have been like you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: something like in the sixties and seventies. They would have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: done like they used to have, like like the college
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: All Star team used to play like NFL teams Like
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: that would have been fun if they'd have had LU
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: would have been play against LSU like in the box
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: and it wouldn't had to have been like you know
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: l s u's top guys because they got drafted.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I get that, but that would have been fun.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, was it was it?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: The national champion would play like the Pro Bowl team
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: or something like that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks so sharp. Look at Steven Blom Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: All hey, nice fits all around.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Look, Matt and I got a chance.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Matt did the Tennessee team that did it three times
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: three times once.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Very cool experience.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care like what your politics are like
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: when you get a chance to meet like the president
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: like a big deal. Like I've said, I told the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: story a thousand times, but like George W. Bush telling
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: me come on in here, man, get in here. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: was like, the President, I'm giving you this football. Can
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I I don't know, like you wanted to picture. I'm like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: can you touch the.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: President of people with some automatic weapons?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but like, very cool. That's something none
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of those players will ever forget ever. Those period again,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: You've done it three times are.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Going to be awesome. I'm like, I'm going to look back.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Was the best one.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: J Johnson's speech was awesome too, Yeah, yeah, I saw.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: Trump's was great, Like, yeah, it's an experience that you'll
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: never forget.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: I've never experienced.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: I'm sure it's great, but I can only imagine that
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: it's just the biggest honor and experience that it's fantastic.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: It is, like you said, no matter what your politics are,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: it's the president of the United States of America. Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. So I went there and let's see
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: three oh seven and then two thousand and eleven, Sous twice,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Obama once, And it was amazing all three times, right,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: and amazing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: They kept saying, hey, y'alls quarterback keeps asking the president
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: about nineteen ninety five Texas Rangers stats and we really
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: need him to stop.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like, what's this guy's deal?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, now Bush, what are we doing?
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: It is humbling to know that, all right? So No, seven,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Like we were, we were pretty close to the president
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: during that very close. So it's like hand shoulder.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It was nerve racket yea, yeah.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Other other teams. I was like, you know, back left corner,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: but that your background podder, background podder, for sure. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: was on the staircase, like thecase like a wedding picture. Yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: but being closer to him, it was like it was
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: humbling knowing that I'm definitely in the crosshairs of somebody
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: was looking at me one safety and yeah away from
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: don't make a wrong move though, So to your point,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: it's like I'm gonna hand you this football. How close
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: can I actually get?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: And the President had to tell me get on in here,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: in here, yeah, win for the real thing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like dude, when we were there with Green Bay
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: and T was an eleven, we had a player in
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: our team, linebacker who forgot his ID.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Oh no I had to sit on the bus. No, no.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: He didn't.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: He didn't get to go made the trip.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: It was awesome the plane because I mean, like it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: like a charter charter plane, like you just it's a
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: private chart. They have like a they have like a
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: booklet basically that has like everybody's I D picture and
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: like they just flip it and they see and he was.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Like and I felt we felt so bad for him
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: because like he was so excited to meet Obama. He
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: was like a thing. It's a big deal. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: absolute he forgot his idea.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: Dang, I feel so bad for.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Him, like thinking I hadn't thought about that in so
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: long to feel bad.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: All over he get a chance, Like did did he
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: go to any other team and maybe get a chance
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: to No?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't think he did.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Not many people get to go three times. This guy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: Jelish Thompson tweeted that out. Josh Pearson tweeted that out.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: That's him and Trump shaking hands.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So cool, so cool.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: I love it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Also, whoa why is that man catching a straight short?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Even guys low.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Man wins right, he looks, he looks.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: He looks exactly like Ricky Faller in that picture. It's anybody.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Well, if he had the all orange want to be perfect, I.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Would be perfect. He looks just like Ricky. Sorry, who
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: was the what was the team? What was the year
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: that they came? And uh they came? Trump had like
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: all fast food there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Year before L s U was that COVID situation.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, yeah, I think it was after Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: Right, it was the year before Clemson won in eighteen
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: and then LU was eighteen.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, either way, it was Wendy's right, it was.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It was like three. It was like three or four
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: different things.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they like it was we didn't get food, we
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: got nothing. Yeah, yeah, George, he.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Didn't feed you.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: He did not feed us. Crazy, he did not.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: He did say when three because we had you were
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: looking at the White House during the ceremony. L s
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: U team was on like the left staircase and into
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: the stage. USC was on the right staircase, and he
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: famously said, you know, it's big debate on whose best
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: team is. You know, I got a pretty big front
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: yard here.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That's one tiking about how about that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's settle this.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Let's settle this right now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Clemson.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: So McDonald's and Wendy's Dominoes and then like some other
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: like fries all that, but burgers from McDonald's and Wendy's
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: and the Domino's pizza.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: It was Yeah, Matt and I enjoyed going to a Nationals.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: We went to a Nationals game, had.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: A couple of cold pops, had a couple of Little
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Marlin's Nationals.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: We were there first year in the Mall Park.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: We travel as a team, and every time he travels
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: the team, there's like, you know, there's a curfew, there's
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: rule you got to go to these team events, team meetings. Well, e'ester.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Now we get there and we're like, wait a minute,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: weren't we're not on.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: The team anymore, Like we graduate, Like we were like
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: getting ready for the the had the combat already.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Happened, the Combina. It was the spring. It was like
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: we were a couple of weeks away from the draft.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, were about to get drafted and we were about
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: to like leave the baseball game early because we're like
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: we got to make it back for curfew.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And we like we had the same thought at the
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: We look at each other, We're like, they can't do
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: anything to us, wouldn't play for them anymore.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I have to do anything. Well, Les can't run us,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: and so we talked about Richie Emergan. He's like, yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I'll get you some get some tickets.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun. It was a good ballpark. It was
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: new at the time.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: You know my Mariners, y'all know me, huge Mariners fan,
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: been a Mariners fan forever.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: That was tough. That was tough. Last night was tough.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: True Yankees fan.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: No, I've I've always been weird. I don't know, weird,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: like I don't have a dog in the fight. But
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the Manners have never made it to the World Series.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: I was pulling for him.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pulling for.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Him like something like my nineteen nineties. The Ghost.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Martinez is Alex Rodriguez King.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Metaphorical ghost of King Griffy Jr.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: He's a guys. Don't worry, he's still He's still with us.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: King Griffy Junior Baseball Super Nintendo the best, one of
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: the best video games of all time.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I wanted them to do it for him, for each row.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Randy Johnson, Yeah, I used to give the Rangers fits.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: They've had some they've had some great players and just
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: through m.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Man, but I could not get enough of the big dumper,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: Like that guy is awesome and I wanted to see
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: him keep going.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: But he was great. Yeah, Okay, he just doesn't look
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: like an athlete to right, it's just kind of like
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: a kind of like this round face.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He's like unassuming face, and then he just.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: What's the tweet? This is peak mill performance performance.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So Blue Jays Dodgers, Dodgers.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty grossy, but.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going for the Dodgers. I can't go against I can't.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I can't go against America. It's an American team version behind.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: We did our show yesterday. I think I'm Blue Jays
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: on this one.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I think we lost a little credit on our show
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: yesterday because on our weekend winners, nobody said show, Heytani.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Well we were, we were.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of because I think his performance. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: think his performance was on it Friday night. So this
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: part of the weekend, it was going pitch hit three
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: dingers three.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: For three and then what six innings the.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Biggest yeah, and like no no earned runs, Like it
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: was probably the greatest performance in post season history as
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: a player.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody said, degenerate gambler that through his translator under
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: the bus, looking.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: At half fall people. If I show it makes you
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a degenerate somebody.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody's like, hey, I know baseball is not popular anymore.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So for you football bros.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: That's like going uh fifteen of eighteen, throwing for two touchdowns,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: having eight tackles, two TFLs, a sack, and also blocking
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: a punt.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, maybe went in there somewhere.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. He almost said that out of the park too.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: It almost got parking lot. Oh well, he's pretty good.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: A little bit baseball.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: All right, So we got two Blue Jays. I'm going Dodgers.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I'm going Dodgers because of America. Yeah, I don't care
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: how much you hate him. Sorry, I don't care if
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: you think it's the evil Empire. It's still America.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Are you calling America evil? Nope, sounds like that's what
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: you're doing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Saying that happens.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Happens.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: No, I love America. Support the troops.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Who doesn't.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Really want the marriage to win, though I still wanted
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: they did not.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a break and when we come back,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I do want to get into all the conversations surrounding
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Spencer Raller and Tyler Shuck and how people just want
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to see Tyler shuck just because even though Spencer Railer
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: had one bad and if you're gonna have one bad
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: game and get replaced in the NFL, I don't think
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: that's a recipe for success. But we've got a lot
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: to get into when it comes to the Saints in
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: the quarterback position, and we'll do it once we come
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• 31:55
  Speaker 4: A lot of talk, a lot of chatter about Spencer Rattler.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And you knew it was going to happen as soon
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: as he had one game where he had some turnovers.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It was going to be. I need to see Tyler shuck.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: You got to see what you drafted.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: And again, I'm just telling you, fortieth overall does not
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: guarantee you anything.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And you say, well, you got to know, you got
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Well, he had a shot to win the job at
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: a training camp and he didn't do it. So I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: get the sentiment that you need to find out what
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you have, But you found out what you have so
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: far in practice leading up to your decision to name
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Spencer Ratler the starting quarterback. And look, I understand what
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: you're saying, like the season's loss, you might as well see,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: but I'll caution you. What is that telling Spencer Ratler
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: a guy that right now is thirteenth in the NFL
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: in passing yards. He's got more passing yards now, He's
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: got more than like Jordan Love. But Jordan Loun's played
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: one less game. He's got more and the same games
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: played as Geno Smith. He's got more than cam Ward
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: to a tongue of Ailoa, Bryce Young, he's got more
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: than c. J.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Stroud.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: He's got more than Aaron Rodgers. He's got more than
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of names that you would know. I mean,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: right now, I think you can make the argument he's
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: playing better. Like Matt said, he's playing better than probably
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: three of the six quarterbacks that got drafted in the
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: first round that we talk so much about I think
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: he's playing better than Michael Pennicks right now.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: So well, yeah, go watch Pinix play on Sunday, Like, yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: time the game of the line. Ball's in the dirt,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: ball's out of bounds, balls thrown over his head.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: So my whole point is if Spencer Ratler, who's completing
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: sixty eight percent of his passes fourteen hundred yards, like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: if you take him out right now, like, what does
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that do to his development? Right? Because he could be
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: your quarterback of the future, right, So if you take
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: him out right now, you put Tyler Schuck in for
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: four games, that's four games that Spencer Ratler does not
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: get to continue to develop.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: What he's done so far this year.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And you could look around the NFL right now, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I think, just without question, there's eight spots where he.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Would be the starting quarterback for other teams.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: And I heard yesterday he's basically a backup quarterback in
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the NFL, which is just so incredibly false and just
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: not the truth.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: It's just not the truth.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: You talk to NFL scouts, and you talk to Drew Fabiani,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: who runs the Senior Bowl, who's a scout in the
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: NFL for decades, and I'm like, hey, I keep hearing this.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Are my eyes telling me a lie? He goes, No,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: there's circles in the NFL right now. And that's the
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: conversation about Spencer Rattler in the level of play he
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: has right now.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: So what do you do?
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Because I think if you sit him because you want
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: to see what you have in Tyler Shuck, doesn't that
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: hurt his development of not having the four games or
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: however many you take him out for?
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that to give like credence to
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: people's concern and like the voice, so like it's not
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: just a couple of people saying it. Like I've been
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: getting like just absolutely blown up on Twitter since the
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: game because I've been out there, you know, trying to
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: like put out those flames, and people like conversations like
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: why why would you want to do that? So now,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: to give credence to that at a certain point, like
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: if you only have one win and it's at the
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: end of the season, like we're talking about the like
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: the like the end like back half of December, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: you want to get some people some extra playing time,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: that's I think at that point it's fine. But we're
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: sitting here in mid October, and you got a quarterback
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: that is I'm going to call it his first like
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: real year as being a starter last year, let's take
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: that out his first top four pass catchers or five
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: pass catchers on absolute and shambles. So this is a
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: kid that is shown that he can make every throw,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: he can make the read, he can execute an offense.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: He goes out in a game, a sloppy game that
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: was wet ball, raining, muddy field, and doesn't have his
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: best game. He has three interceptions, one fumble. Yeah, who
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, quarterbacks fumble on sacks all the time, right,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: So it's just a shame that in this situation where
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: you do have a guy behind him that's young, albeit
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: a year older than Rattler, he is a second round
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: draft pick and everybody just wants to see, wants to see,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: wants to see. So Ratler basically has to play perfect
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: better than twenty five quarterbacks out there in the NFL.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: They're starting for them to shut up. But then it's
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: you have one bad game, and I men say, like
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: as a whole is bad as bad because of the picks,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: but you look at the picks. His first one bad
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: throw Okay, see bad throws all over the place. It
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: was a bad throw. It's it's unexcusable. There's no excuse
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: for it. He would say, my god, that was terrible.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Second one pushes the ball down the field points safety
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: makes a play because he points, that's the thing that's
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: something to learn from right there. Yeah, he was open
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: just once, he pointed, if you threw a litt little
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: split second earlier, he gets it there, it ends up.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: I think it was second down. You don't want to
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: throw that pick, but at the end of the day,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: it becomes about a fifty yard punt. So like that's
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: how we would always look at it in the quarterback room, like, yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: I don't want you to do that. We lost the ball,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what would have happened on
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: third down. Well, let's throw it away and see what happens.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: But you know what, it's not the end of the
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: world because it's bad on the stat sheet because you
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: get an extra pick, but it turns out to be
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: a forty five to fifty yard punt. They get it
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: backed up anyway, So we live with it. We move on.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Let's wash that one, let's improve from it. The third
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: pick fourth down, Like, who know, Like it was a
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: two man route. It was you see that play all
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: the time. Kamara kind of thought bailed to the flat toil.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: It didn't give any presence of a play action fake.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He got knocked down.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: He got knocked down, so you gotta throw it. I mean,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: it looks bad, but what are you gonna do. It's
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: fourth down. You can't take a sack. You gotta try something,
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: So not make excuses. Certainly, he's done a great job
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: of protecting the football. That's why nobody, none of these
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: haters could say anything, because he has protected the football
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: and look efficient.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But like what he said as soon as he did,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you talk people.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: In the NFL. This guy's a starting quarterback in the NFL.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's the top five, top ten quarterback. Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: at least right now.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, come on, he's he's starting in Miami,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: he's starting in He's starting for the Jets, starting in Cleveland, Tennessee, Vegas.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just I mean, anybody else, any other top ones,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: like kind of come I'm Carolina Arizona, Arizona.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Like I'm done with Cali Murray.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, so my whole point is, I get
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: what you're saying, wanting to see what you drafted.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But my point is, like fortieth overall doesn't guarantee you anything.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Fourteenth overall it does. Now, if you do this, which
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: it does seem like it is inevitable, at some.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Point, it will happen.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: If you do this, you just have to know that
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: it is going to change the growth of Spencer Rattler.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: And I think Spencer Rattler is somebody you can grow with. Now,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck might be really, really good. He might, but again,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Spencer Ratler beat him out in camp. I don't care
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: if it was close. I don't care if it was
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: by a mile. A second year quarterback that you drafted
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: in the fifth round beat out a quarterback that you
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: drafted just a year later in the second round. It's
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: not like you went with Spencer Rattler because he was
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: a seventh year guy and you wanted to vet in there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: He was a second year guy that only had a
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: handful of starts under his belt, and he beat out
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck. So when you say you gotta see what
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: you have in Tyler Shuck, they saw enough from both
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: to make the decision to go with Rattler out of camp.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the chair now. Yoda in the chat says,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Rattler's ceiling is very low. He's not a franchise CUBI.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: What do you mean the ceiling's not low. He's accurate,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: he's got a big, strong arm. He's accurate down the field.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: He manages the game very well. Ghoso's reads. He can move,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: he can run, he can scramble. I don't understan the
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: comments of people saying his ceiling is low. He's got
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: all the athleticism, he's got the arm, he's got the accuracy.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: He's had some issues, like he's thrown some inaccurate passes,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: but watch the entire NFL. Nobody makes perfect throws every time.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: I don't understand what the this is not a knock
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: and get shucked. We hadn't seen him like it might
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: be great. I don't know. But like what I'm saying
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: is the starting quarterback right now should not be benched, No
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: for any reason, right now in the season. Now, if
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: you still have one loss and whatever later in the season,
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: that's the time to have the conversation. But I'm so
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: sick and tired of people saying his ceiling's low?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Why why he was?
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: He was somebody at one point in his career before
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams beat him out and he did, and Caleb
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Winn's number one overall pick, like he was thought of
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: as somebody that had first round talent. Go back and
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: you can pull up article after article after article of
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: what his talent is.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Talent doesn't always translate to everything. Yeah, but like Matt said,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: he's doing the things that you have to do as
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: far as his reads and his throws in the tight
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: windows and controlling the offense. So talent's not it just
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: because he's not six'. Five you don't have to be
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: six' five to thrive a. Quarterback anymore that's like nineteen ninety.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Eight stuff, guess what you got to be accurate passer down,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: The field you have to make, Good decisions you got
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: to be have a little athleticism. To you check, Check
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: check we. Got it what why is this? Ceiling low?
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Do WE and i got? Another question we feel good
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: enough about rally to not take a first the FIRST
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: round qb in next. Year's, draft yeah why don't you
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: draft some people that can make a play when you throw,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Them ball why don't you draft some people that can
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: help you not give up six and a half yards
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: per carry to. Running backs.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe with this, quarterback class After what i've seen in
• 41:45
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• 41:48
  Speaker 4: fact get the number, one, pick man, Oh man i'm
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: trading that thing for four or five. Six picks your
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: roster right now needs so much more than. One player
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: we're also a part of the conversation that we're not
• 41:59
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• 42:11
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• 42:14
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• 42:17
  Speaker 4: you are throwing a wrench in the development of your
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: quarterback that's playing well enough to be the starter in
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: multiple places IN, the NFL and i think can continue
• 42:27
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• 42:27
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• 45:18
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• 45:25
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• 45:28
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