Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Katherine Barresi, Chief Health Services Officer at Partnership HealthPlan of California
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- 0:00This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:02Podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:04Catherine Barresi, chief health services officer at Partnership
- 0:07Health Plan of California.
- 0:09Catherine, it's a pleasure to have you on
- 0:10the podcast today.
- 0:12Likewise. Thanks for having me.
- 0:15Absolutely. Now I am looking forward to digging
- 0:17into some of the cool things that you're
- 0:18doing out there in California, as well as
- 0:20what you're planning for the future. But before
- 0:22we dive in, could you please introduce yourself
- 0:25and tell us a little bit about your
- 0:26background?
- 0:27Great. Thanks, Laura, and thanks again for having
- 0:29me.
- 0:30So, again, I'm Catherine Brassy. I'm a nurse
- 0:32executive,
- 0:33at Partnership Health Plan of California. And in
- 0:35my current role, I'm the chief health services
- 0:37officer.
- 0:39And what that means is that I oversee
- 0:41a huge,
- 0:42piece of clinical operations and and strategic initiatives,
- 0:46for the health plan, really with the focus
- 0:48of including the out, and improving outcomes of
- 0:51our members.
- 0:52I be began my career as a nurse,
- 0:54and worked specifically in case management and public
- 0:56health. And this gave me a really strong
- 0:59clinical foundation,
- 1:01and and structure,
- 1:02for what members experience,
- 1:04in the outpatient world, in health care.
- 1:08Well, that's great to hear. And, you know,
- 1:10really cool that you've got this,
- 1:12role now at Partnership Health Plan of California.
- 1:15Could you tell us a little bit about,
- 1:17some of the biggest issues that you're following
- 1:19in health care and where it's headed in
- 1:21the new year?
- 1:23Yeah. There's,
- 1:24as you know, health care really is top
- 1:26of mind for everybody, especially after, the latest
- 1:29election cycle. And really, the top five things
- 1:32that I'm following and my teams are following
- 1:34both at Partnership and in our work are,
- 1:36of course, first and foremost, the big changes
- 1:38or impacts to Medicaid,
- 1:39with the new administration.
- 1:41While we hear rumors, at this point, we
- 1:43don't have any specific
- 1:46policies or guidance. We know that the budget
- 1:48reconciliation process is is upon us,
- 1:51and there's discussions going on at a federal
- 1:53level.
- 1:54California has a lot of individuals on Medicaid
- 1:58or Medi Cal as it's known in our
- 2:00state.
- 2:01In fact, I think the latest poll shifts
- 2:03something around the order of about 14,000,000,
- 2:06Californians are on Medicaid.
- 2:08Partnership, we cover 24 counties in Northern California
- 2:12with about 900,000
- 2:13lives,
- 2:14providing services and benefits,
- 2:16and high quality health care. So this is
- 2:18something
- 2:19that we are are watching and tracking very,
- 2:22very closely.
- 2:24The other big focus for partnership,
- 2:26as I just described, we are in Northern
- 2:28California, and we have very large communities that
- 2:31are rural communities,
- 2:33that often
- 2:34experience health disparities,
- 2:37just due
- 2:38to scale of cost,
- 2:39economy.
- 2:41And so for us, this is even more
- 2:44important to make sure
- 2:46that
- 2:47infrastructure and healthcare delivery such as our rural
- 2:49hospitals and our public hospitals in those communities
- 2:52are are not disproportionately affected by some of
- 2:54these policy and access changes.
- 2:57And then the two and three other areas
- 2:59that we're focusing on, obviously, improving access to
- 3:02health care in general across our 24 county
- 3:05network with things and innovations using technology like
- 3:08telehealth,
- 3:09with creative solutioning with our specialty network and
- 3:12our primary care providers,
- 3:14but also,
- 3:15with strong emphasis on member engagement and member
- 3:18experience,
- 3:19and use of those those new technologies.
- 3:22And then the two or three other areas
- 3:24that we're looking at, as I just described,
- 3:27AI. We've got an AI committee at partnership,
- 3:30and looking about, how that technology can improve,
- 3:33the operations within the health plan and the
- 3:35service and experience and quality of care that
- 3:37our members experience,
- 3:39and then member choice and member voice
- 3:42as they experience health care.
- 3:44Because, again, I think that ultimately,
- 3:47everybody in the health care space knows the
- 3:49system only works when the system works for
- 3:51for the people it serves. And so how
- 3:53we engage and elevate them in in every
- 3:56aspect of the work we do is is
- 3:58a high focus for us.
- 4:00That's great to hear. And, you know, really
- 4:02helpful to understand some of the challenges that
- 4:05are ahead. I know as you mentioned, it's
- 4:07a lot of uncertainties
- 4:09right now with how things will proceed in
- 4:10the health care space.
- 4:12And and how do you look ahead, at
- 4:14some of these initiatives that you're talking about,
- 4:16expanding access to care and planning for the
- 4:18future,
- 4:19while knowing, you know, that things could change
- 4:21at any moment?
- 4:23I think we we we stay true to
- 4:25the partnerships that we've built and the communities
- 4:28that we partner with to do that,
- 4:30and we look towards the opportunities.
- 4:33Granted, yes, it's it's a lot of change
- 4:35management and it's a lot of uncertainty.
- 4:38But the goals and values are the same
- 4:40no matter which community you look at, when
- 4:43it comes to health care. People want
- 4:46doctors and specialists and providers and hospitals that
- 4:49they can access easily when they need to.
- 4:52People want low cost health care.
- 4:54That doesn't mean lesser quality. It just means
- 4:57lower cost, whether it be for prescriptions
- 5:00or for,
- 5:02specialist visits.
- 5:03Our members on Medicaid, Medi Cal, many do
- 5:05not have a a share of cost because
- 5:07they qualify for income or disability.
- 5:10And so
- 5:11that is,
- 5:13a common thread. And I think as long
- 5:15as we remain focused on that work,
- 5:18where the policy lies in that, as long
- 5:19as our principles are the same, we'll get
- 5:21to that end goal together.
- 5:24That is a really great perspective, and I
- 5:26I think a strong way to approach times
- 5:28like these. Now looking ahead, what are you
- 5:31most excited about, or what makes you nervous?
- 5:34I'm most excited,
- 5:36in three areas. I think first would be
- 5:38the technology.
- 5:39We've seen some rapid gains,
- 5:42as I mentioned earlier with AI, but also
- 5:44other technologies and technology partners in this space
- 5:47bringing new solutions into health care.
- 5:50Health care is, by far and wide, no
- 5:52matter where you're at within the delivery system,
- 5:55whether you're in an outpatient setting, a hospital
- 5:57setting, on the payer side,
- 6:00The data and the exchange of information is
- 6:02becoming more and more relevant and key to
- 6:05optimizing clinical decision making outcomes,
- 6:08risk adjustments, payments, better use of resources. And
- 6:11so it's great to see technology partners in
- 6:14that space to enhance the work that we
- 6:16do and not hamper clinicians or or operations.
- 6:21I'm also really excited about rural health support.
- 6:24I I think when,
- 6:27groups or coalitions use words and terms like,
- 6:30equity or disparity,
- 6:31we often use that in connotation
- 6:34of, you know, somebody's
- 6:35race or ethnicity.
- 6:37I think of rural health disparities. I think
- 6:40of community disparities,
- 6:42areas where there has been lack of infrastructure
- 6:44investment,
- 6:45business opportunity growth,
- 6:47for example.
- 6:48And how they experience and use,
- 6:52and navigate health care is very different than
- 6:54suburban or urban settings.
- 6:56And so there's some really great best practices
- 6:59coming out of there that I'm excited about
- 7:02working and potentially scaling those, not just across
- 7:05partnerships,
- 7:06network, but really elevating those as a best
- 7:08practice within Medicaid.
- 7:10And then lastly,
- 7:12our member engagement.
- 7:14Again, member voice is incredibly important, and I
- 7:17think there is a disconnect between what people
- 7:21understand health care to be,
- 7:23and how it is currently working for them
- 7:26and and that translation and bringing them to
- 7:29make sure that they have a seat at
- 7:30the table and that they understand things
- 7:32about how how benefits get decided, how,
- 7:37how prior authorization works, what, you know, who
- 7:40qualifies for what.
- 7:42The system is set up ideally to be
- 7:44working for them, and right now, it's not.
- 7:46And so having those voices at the table
- 7:49as as key partners is is actually really,
- 7:52really exciting because the insights they lend
- 7:55only improve the the quality of the output.
- 7:59And then it's really great to hear. I'm
- 8:01curious.
- 8:02You know, in talking about the ability to
- 8:04connect with, the broader community and engage with
- 8:07them and and and,
- 8:09figure out, you know, how you can improve
- 8:11and have additional engagement. Is there anything you
- 8:13learned from some of those efforts? Or how
- 8:15did you go about,
- 8:16making those connections, in a way that yielded
- 8:19results?
- 8:21Well, in terms of the, you know, the
- 8:22member engagement piece, partnership has a multitude of
- 8:26existing committees and coalitions
- 8:28made up of,
- 8:30stakeholders for the the folks that we serve.
- 8:33So, in fact, even our our board of
- 8:34commissioners is comprised of county behavioral health directors,
- 8:38hospital CEOs, clinic CMOs,
- 8:41community based organization partners and leaders. And so
- 8:44it really is a tapestry
- 8:46of everybody
- 8:47within the community and and health care delivery
- 8:50network that is meeting,
- 8:52deciding,
- 8:53leading efforts to improve care. And in terms
- 8:56of our members, we have a community,
- 8:59advisory group where we've got our actual members
- 9:03who sit in and provide feedback directly to
- 9:05the health plan on what we are doing,
- 9:07whether it be policies or benefits or experience.
- 9:10We have three of our members on our
- 9:12board as well,
- 9:14who who sit and power share along with
- 9:16our board of commissioners around our finances and
- 9:19strategic operations and vision.
- 9:21So it's it really is ingrained in in
- 9:23our company's culture and mission to make sure
- 9:26that,
- 9:27that engagement piece is there.
- 9:29Lastly, I will add, we have special
- 9:32committees of, subpopulations within our membership,
- 9:36that are unique, that that need,
- 9:39a more strategic and intentional focus. So for
- 9:42example, in California, there is a program called
- 9:45California Children's Services, and it is for children
- 9:47and youth and young adults with, special and
- 9:50complex healthcare needs. And at Partnership,
- 9:53we are,
- 9:54we have a majority of them within our
- 9:56membership in the counties that we serve. And
- 9:58so, we have a special committee of just
- 10:00those clients, their parents, and or their caregivers,
- 10:03to have bidirectional feedback about about their experiences
- 10:07and how we can improve their health care
- 10:09outcomes being that they are unique within the
- 10:12health care delivery system and they are also
- 10:15high users of health care delivery. And so
- 10:18who best to talk to than them, in
- 10:20terms of making sure that we're getting it
- 10:22right?
- 10:24That's such a great point. Thank you for
- 10:26walking us through that. Now before we wrap
- 10:28up our conversation, I'm wondering, what will the
- 10:30most effective health care leaders need in order
- 10:32to be successful in the next two to
- 10:34three years, especially given some of the big
- 10:36themes we've talked about today?
- 10:38Yeah. I
- 10:40first and foremost, my best piece of advice
- 10:42is health care leaders, as always, you've gotta
- 10:44be agile.
- 10:45Things are constantly changing in health care and
- 10:47and more so. The pace feels more more
- 10:50frenetic.
- 10:51But, agile, tech savvy, and financially strategic,
- 10:55and deeply committed to the member voice, as
- 10:58I explained,
- 11:00with having them always at the center for
- 11:02for high quality outcomes.
- 11:04The best leaders will champion quality and accessibility,
- 11:08with personalized approaches.
- 11:10And they're they're gonna need to stay ahead
- 11:12of these policy changes,
- 11:14compliance requirements, reimbursement models.
- 11:17That that's going to be a key component,
- 11:20in order to leverage
- 11:22the existing funding streams and and key partners,
- 11:25that are out there.
- 11:27With the rapid shifts in potential regulations that
- 11:29are coming,
- 11:31leaders in healthcare are really going to have
- 11:34to kind of think outside
- 11:37their existing coalitions,
- 11:40for for broader opportunities for partnership.
- 11:43I think and believe and have seen that
- 11:46we are more more alike than we are
- 11:48different.
- 11:49And so we're gonna need health care leaders
- 11:52that that can work together on the similarities,
- 11:58resources more appropriately.
- 12:01Catherine, thank you so much for joining us
- 12:03on the podcast today. This has been such
- 12:05a fun and fascinating conversation, and I look
- 12:07forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 12:10Sounds great. Thank you so much, Laura, for
- 12:11having me.