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Loud & Upsetting (Promo) · Movie Meltdown

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Speaker 1: Times in Babylon fun times speaking of which let's get
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Speaker 1: to some fun movie talk with Nazis and stuff so
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Speaker 1: I did when we were throwing out fun Nazi titles
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Speaker 1: because I went through the um the recent things i've
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Speaker 1: come across in the real world which is going back
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Speaker 1: a ways now and there really wasn't anything good that
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Speaker 1: tied in so the only one i brought up recently
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Speaker 1: i guess was gonna be my sort of threat have
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Speaker 1: you seen the keep no see it's one of those
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Speaker 1: i and that's why i'm using it as a threat
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Speaker 1: because i don't really feel like we need to watch
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Speaker 1: it like i heard about it for years and then
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Speaker 1: i finally like in the last two years or so
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Speaker 1: watched it and i was like oh hey it's fine
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Speaker 1: like It's cool, but again, I don't think it has
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Speaker 1: the budget to do what it probably should do. But
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Speaker 1: it's early Michael Mann, which is cool. Doesn't really feel
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Speaker 1: like a Michael Mann movie, but... So yeah, The Keep
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Speaker 1: is a 1983 film, and Nazis are forced to turn
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Speaker 1: to a Jewish historian for help in battling the ancient
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Speaker 1: demon they have inadvertently freed from its prison. Sounds pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: I do not hate that idea.
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Speaker 3: No, that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: It's a cool concept. And basically what's going on is cool.
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Speaker 2: But again, I think. The original director's cut was 210
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Speaker 2: minutes long.
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Speaker 1: I think I went in. Again, having heard about it,
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Speaker 1: it was always one of those people be like, oh man,
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Speaker 1: it's like super underrated. People forget about this movie. And
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Speaker 1: then I finally watched it and was like, I think
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Speaker 1: it got built up a little too much. Because then
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Speaker 1: I was like, I just kind of wanted more from
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Speaker 1: that scenario. Like that sounds like the kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: You would really kind of dig into.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man. There's a lot of reading you
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Speaker 2: got to do just on the poster.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not a good sign.
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Speaker 1: There's probably some Yiddish they had to translate to. There's
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Speaker 1: probably reading in the movie is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I don't really remember.
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Speaker 1: I just expected more from a giant monster or something.
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Speaker 2: To show up. And they were all drawn to the keep.
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Speaker 2: The soldiers who brought death. The father and daughter fighting
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Speaker 2: for life. The people who've always feared it. And the
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Speaker 2: man who knows its secrets. Tonight, they all face the.
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Speaker 3: You're not done yet.
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Speaker 2: Wait.
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Speaker 3: Still going.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 3: At the bottom, it says, see other side. So you
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Speaker 3: have to take it off the wall, flip it around.
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Speaker 1: So like I was saying, anyway, about Nazis.
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Speaker 3: That's not a very good tagline. Not really. Not very catchy.
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Speaker 1: Not catchy. So that's at least throwing out a movie option.
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Speaker 1: We'll get back to that threat later.
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Speaker 3: I also like to use these as a.
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Speaker 1: Good way to have some sort of weird conversation. So
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Speaker 1: this was mine and it doesn't really tie in with
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Speaker 1: this week's episode, but in a general way, it leads
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Speaker 1: me to a question I wanted to ask. And usually
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Speaker 1: we use you as the example for all of an
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Speaker 1: entire group of people, Nora. So I was watching a
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Speaker 1: movie this weekend and I'm watching it and I won't
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Speaker 1: even out the movie. Doesn't really matter, but.
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Speaker 3: It's really well done for what it's doing.
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Speaker 1: But it's a very guy-centric movie, and there are three
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Speaker 1: female actresses-type people in the whole movie, and man, they
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Speaker 1: are treated like shit. So, I mean, literally, it's a
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Speaker 1: period piece, so some of them are property and referred
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Speaker 1: to that way, and there's a good amount of physical
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Speaker 1: violence thrown in their face, literally, sometimes. So.
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Speaker 1: My question was going to be, cause in the end
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this is really well done.
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Speaker 3: This is good.
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Speaker 1: But even I, as the horrible man person that I
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Speaker 1: supposedly am, I'm still like, still kind of a uneasy
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Speaker 1: feeling that knowing that like, this is all we have
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Speaker 1: to represent womankind.
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Speaker 3: And you guys treat them all like shit. Like, so
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Do you watch movies that treat women horribly and you're
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Speaker 1: okay with it at any point? Like, again, can you
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Speaker 1: think of them like, this is a masterpiece, I love it. Oh,
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Speaker 1: by the way, every female character is treated horribly.
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Speaker 3: Um, I guess it, well, uh, short answer, no.
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Speaker 1: Again, that's why I was like, it starts to factor in,
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Speaker 1: I guess, if you're not a complete Neanderthal. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that I've graduated from that yet, but at least
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Speaker 1: enough that it occurs to me now, that I'm like...
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Speaker 1: I watched this a million years ago when it came
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Speaker 1: out and I was like, cool, this is great. And
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Speaker 1: like now I don't know that I've grown any, but
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Speaker 1: I at least had enough of a thought to go, wow,
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Speaker 1: that's not cool though.
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Speaker 3: I was like, so I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It just made me wonder if, if there's, if you
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Speaker 1: have to detach yourself in some way. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like there kind of is in general, if it becomes like,
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Speaker 1: cause this one was semi-modern, but a period piece. So
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Speaker 1: if it's a period piece, how authentic do you need
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Speaker 1: to be? Because women have been treated like shit. Not
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Speaker 1: that it's much better now, but going back however far
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Speaker 1: you want to go in history, it gets worse. So
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Speaker 1: I'm like, are we supposed to represent this properly? And
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Speaker 1: then if the movie itself is really old, I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: now you're just reflecting the world it was shot in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's nuance and it depends on...
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Speaker 4: the director and do these characters have any other life
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Speaker 4: and purpose outside of being beat up and treated horribly
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Speaker 4: or is that just their thing? But yeah, speaking more generally,
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Speaker 4: I have very little patience for that.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I've seen in the movies we've
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Speaker 1: watched for the show. That's why I was like, is
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Speaker 1: there some sort of loophole somewhere that you can escape
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Speaker 1: through and be like, But other than all the, you know,
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Speaker 1: horrible treatment of women, this movie's great.
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Speaker 4: I especially, I get really annoyed with it when Game
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Speaker 4: of Thrones was really big. Because people would be like, well,
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Speaker 4: it's set in the past, so all of this violence
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Speaker 4: is realistic. And I'm like, there's dragons.
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Speaker 3: There's magic. It's also not really the past. There's wizards. Like,
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Speaker 3: why do we care about historical accuracy?
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Speaker 2: I don't see what you're complaining about.
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Speaker 1: Well, especially not with the dragons part.
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Speaker 3: Because those work. They were cool, but I didn't have
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Speaker 3: to watch a bunch of people.
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Speaker 1: No, they were real.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: There's at least one church in Europe that has what
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Speaker 2: is purported to be a dragon bone hanging from the ceiling.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is... So, yeah, what are you going to
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Speaker 3: do there?
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Speaker 1: To distract from your actual intelligent point. That is one
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Speaker 1: of those things that I think is interesting, and I've
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Speaker 1: had other people bring it up before, that it is
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Speaker 1: one of the few things in all culture, there's a
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Speaker 1: version of that. Yeah. So... at a time thousands of
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Speaker 1: years ago when everyone was separated by oceans and didn't
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Speaker 1: have crossover of cultures they all had their own version
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Speaker 1: of a dragon more or less in whatever civilization it
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Speaker 1: was and I'm like.
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Speaker 3: That is kind of interesting.
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Speaker 1: Just because it shouldn't be like that like now you
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Speaker 1: know internet connects everybody but like you didn't have much
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Speaker 1: of a wifi signal back in the old timey days
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Speaker 1: if you pay enough you know you get a good
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Speaker 1: bounce off of it but yeah anyway Now back to
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Speaker 1: whatever your actual intelligence thought was.
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Speaker 3: Aside from dragons and shit. I don't know. That's it.
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Speaker 3: I'm tired.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'm tired all the time.
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Speaker 1: I certainly understand that one. That one crosses all barriers.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's just tired at this point.
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Speaker 3: I want to see some women beat up some shitty
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Speaker 3: dudes there.
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Speaker 2: I'll make some calls.
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Speaker 3: That's my kind of movie.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, there's some movies. You've got
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Speaker 1: to find the right ones. It takes a little more digging.
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Speaker 1: The other way, there's a lot more.
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Speaker 3: Well, not to.
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Speaker 2: Skip ahead, but the women in our movie this week
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Speaker 2: really stuck together.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's not what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: They'll hear about that later. We'll say many things about that.
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Speaker 3: Kind of like this. I really liked what was going on.
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Speaker 1: It is weird that it's kind of two movies. Like
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Speaker 1: that first half is its own short film almost.
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Speaker 3: And that is so well done.
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like I love the first half and
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Speaker 1: like I'm fine with the second half.
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Speaker 2: It's well made and it's intriguing. My own, my thing
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Speaker 2: about it was just, I just have so many questions
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Speaker 2: that I feel like it would take a whole series of,
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Speaker 2: of other movies to answer.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of biting things. I thought you were about to
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Speaker 3: bite his arm. Nope.
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Speaker 1: Brace yourself.
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Speaker 2: Here it comes.
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Speaker 1: Chomp. I mean, eating people's fine, but I don't like
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Speaker 1: singling out specific groups.
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Speaker 2: In a way, I kind of wish that's how the
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Speaker 2: movie ended.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I would feel a lot better if that's how the
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Speaker 2: movie had gone.
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Speaker 3: It was very, yeah, unfortunately realistic.
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Speaker 2: It was too realistic.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how to read.
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Speaker 2: It's more of an autobiography than it is an adaptation
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Speaker 2: of the novel. Because I read the novel and I
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Speaker 2: was like, how the hell do you turn this into
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Speaker 2: a movie?
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Speaker 1: Exactly. Apparently you don't. You watch that movie and you're like,
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Speaker 1: how the hell is this a book? It neither seems
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Speaker 1: to make sense, really.
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Speaker 3: And it's okay. It's fun. It's fun.
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Speaker 2: There's no heavy lifting involved in that movie at all.
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Speaker 1: There are certain ones that are so good at... doing
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Speaker 1: what they're doing.
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Speaker 3: And that's one of the, I was like, it's.
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Speaker 1: Not, it's not highbrow, but what it does, it does
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Speaker 1: so damn well that I'm just like, if you're a
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Speaker 1: horror fan, like, dude, this should be for you.
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Speaker 2: Like there, there are several moments where you're like, how
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Speaker 2: do you come up with That conclusion, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: the logic of the movie is not great, but if
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Speaker 2: you're not worried about logic or, you know, plot, it's fun.
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Speaker 2: It's a fun little movie.
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Speaker 1: This is also something that occurred to me. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is probably what people need to watch. Because I
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Speaker 1: think we, especially in the world we live in now,
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Speaker 1: are very isolated and we're in our own little bubble,
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Speaker 1: even within... The internet world where we only interact with
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Speaker 1: people who kind of think like we do. And we
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Speaker 1: don't know how many people out in the world are
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Speaker 1: just like this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very like genre bendy, which I'm guessing is
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Speaker 4: how it made so much money.
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Speaker 1: At the beginning, I thought it was just like a
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Speaker 1: drama more or less. And then the more people would
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Speaker 1: sort of allude to other things going on, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: maybe not so much.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like southern gothic....
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Speaker 4: Creepy but then in the second half it becomes a
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Speaker 4: little action movie-y.
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Speaker 3: Which I could have done without. I liked where it
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Speaker 3: was going before that but it's still fun. Fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: And you know one way that this movie was effective
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Speaker 2: is it shows you that anyone can rationalize anything. They
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Speaker 2: just have to try hard enough.
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Speaker 1: So it's a weird crossover of creepiness and overly sexualized
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Speaker 1: grossness than you probably needed so yeah it's it's a
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Speaker 1: lot of weirdness going on there so.
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Speaker 4: She's in the group at first and she's like i
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Speaker 4: she's kind of hesitant she's a little bit freaked out
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Speaker 4: that they're all talking so openly and she's like i
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Speaker 4: don't know if i should be.
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Speaker 3: Here like i don't know if i'm that far along
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Speaker 3: my and then she ends up being.
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Speaker 1: I am kind of interested where they go i mean
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Speaker 1: it is almost to the point of ridiculousness on the reboot, requel,
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell we're doing, legacy sequel. Somebody said if Scream.
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Speaker 2: Can do it, we can do it. But, I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's my.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's essentially a response to Scream being huge anyway,
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Speaker 1: so why wouldn't you redo it after they do the
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Speaker 1: exact same thing with Scream?
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Speaker 4: And Final Destination. I will say, immediately, I just... You
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Speaker 4: get bad vibes from that lady. As soon as she's
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Speaker 4: talking to the kid outside, I was like.
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Speaker 2: I didn't like the way she looked at the janitor.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the creatures are awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the creatures are awesome.
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Speaker 1: The creatures are awesome.
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Speaker 2: The weird man-eating typewriter.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say there's the typewriter version.
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Speaker 1: There's like a full-size version. There's one that's a decapitated
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Speaker 1: head that's also a typewriter.
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Speaker 3: That's a giant bug.
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Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm thinking of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but there's so many variations on this
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Speaker 1: weird theme. And then there's one... And.
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Speaker 3: That's the scary part.
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Speaker 4: And there's so many chances for them to not keep
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Speaker 4: escalating and keep it. And the character of the....
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Speaker 2: No, I did watch that movie one time and I
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Speaker 2: also did not have a good time. But it was
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Speaker 2: a different kind of not good time.
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Speaker 1: Again, to put it in perspective, I'm halfway or so
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Speaker 1: in and I'm thinking ahead of later I can watch
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Speaker 1: a movie that'll be fun. I'm already thinking ahead.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is good.
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Speaker 1: It's quote unquote well made, but I'm just like, later I'll.
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Speaker 3: Watch a fun movie.
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Speaker 2: At the 80 minute mark, roughly, actually probably before I
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Speaker 2: was like, I'm a need a palate cleanser. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just already looking forward to when it
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Speaker 1: was over. I was just like, wow.
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Speaker 2: I will say on a technical standpoint, pretty kick ass.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: If your goal, which I think it was, if your
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Speaker 2: goal was to make people very upset and very uncomfortable,
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Speaker 2: you succeeded there.
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Speaker 1: Like the weird understated part of it that creeped me out.
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Speaker 1: Like as much as the other stuff is very in
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Speaker 1: your face, but this weird upset that it just ended
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Speaker 1: there because it's like, okay, cool, I've just.
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Speaker 4: Been traumatized for an hour and a half and you
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Speaker 4: get that one shot at the end of like maybe.
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Speaker 4: And thinking back to what you were saying earlier about
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Speaker 4: why this movie is important so that people watch these
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Speaker 4: things and realize how relevant to real life it is,
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Speaker 4: even more so now than it was three years ago.
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, do the people who need
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Speaker 4: to be watching this movie seek out movies like this?
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Speaker 2: But i think that's our point yeah supposed to.
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Speaker 1: There is no good answer because that's how life works.
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Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to remind us that yes this
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Speaker 2: is wrong this is terrible but hey guess what this
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Speaker 2: is what's.
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Speaker 1: Going on so if you want to hear us say
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Speaker 1: amazing things like that or talk about the keep or
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Speaker 1: hopefully you'll come up with a better movie for us
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Speaker 1: to watch because you know the keeps fine and all
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Speaker 1: but There's other stuff out there you could give us. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, join the Meltdown Horror Club and give us
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Speaker 1: a better movie to watch.
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Speaker 2: You know, I used to jump in and say, or
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Speaker 2: give us a worse one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think I'm going to do that.
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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, like, one of these times, you're going
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Speaker 1: to regret that. Oh, I regret it.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, we might have hit that point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We might have finally hit the peak of that mountain.
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Speaker 3: And you're like, nope, fuck that. We pushed somebody. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 3: We didn't know.
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Speaker 1: Join the Meltdown Horror Club and give us a good
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Speaker 1: movie to watch that won't ruin our lives.
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Speaker 2: I don't even care if it's good. I just want
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Speaker 2: it to make me feel good when I.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 2: Or not even feel good, but just not feel dirty.
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Speaker 1: The weight of humanity upon your shoulders. The horror that
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Speaker 1: is life.
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Speaker 3: Look out, Hollywood, here I come.
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Speaker 1: Look out, Hollywood, here I come Look out, Hollywood, here
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Speaker 1: I come