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Drive Thru News #17 - We Would Be Remiss! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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called a side of golden nuggets.
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It was, would you like fries with that?
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It's changed names several times, but now thankfully it's called we would be remiss.
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So Tanya, what would we be remiss about this month?
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If we didn't talk about it, we would be remiss.
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So I don't want to cover this one, but it's here.
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So we would much like Brad doesn't want to cover Corvettes.
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You get stuck with Tesla's now that's your thing.
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And I'm fine with that.
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It's just.
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The latest gimmick that they're doing, you know, some people think it's quite clever.
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There's those that would say genius.
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I have a different definition for something that's genius.
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Being able to say open butthole for my electric charger door to pop
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open to me as a Fully formed adult is not genius for a 12 year old.
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Yes.
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I could see this being quite hysterical.
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Thank you for bringing this to us.
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And you know, some people might think, Oh, this is just a joke.
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It came out in April, April fools.
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No, I fully believe this is no joke because I have ridden in
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a Tesla with the fart sounds turned on for the turn signals.
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So instead of click click click, so this is completely on par.
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with something musk would do.
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So I fully believe that you can say open butthole.
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Oh, but it gets better because if you watch the video that accompanies
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this particular episode, a gentleman goes through and reviews this
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particular voice command feature.
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There are variants to it.
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If you say open butthole, it opens the charge port.
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If you say close butthole, it closes the charge port.
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If you say open My butthole, it will open the trunk.
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Did you know that?
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You also want to know why this isn't genius?
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If we're going to anthropomorphize a vehicle, its butthole would
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not be on the side of it.
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Where energy is going into.
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Thank you.
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That's, that's my, my, that was going to be my point.
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It shouldn't be open butthole.
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It should be put it in your mouth.
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Oh yeah.
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Because that makes it better.
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I mean, this is the mouth also isn't on the side.
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If you were going to like it, the mouth is where fuel and energy goes in.
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I don't know.
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I mean, personally, I think this is just foreplay and dirty
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talk between Elon and Grimes.
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And they just kind of translate it into.
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You know, Tesla production, somebody, he probably was, you know, getting
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down with, with grimes and, uh, he, but dialed somebody in, uh, somebody
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at work, you heard him say, Oh yeah, open your butthole, open your butthole.
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And they're like, Okay, I guess we'll implement that into the Yes, Mr.
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Musk.
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Yes, Mr.
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Musk.
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Right away, Mr.
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Musk.
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We'll take care of that.
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I mean, clearly it sells.
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People are into it.
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I don't know.
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Hot take.
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It's dumb.
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Speaking of dumb, let's talk about the new door handles on the Tesla.
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Oh, that's not gonna break.
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The video, you kind of get a sneak peek here of the new Tesla Roadster.
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We heard about this on the drag racing episode with Bobby parks.
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He's really excited about wheels.
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I love like, I love that the Tesla Roadster is a coupe.
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You're right on all counts.
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But this new door handle, you know, the current Teslas, the door
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handle kind of pops out at you.
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It's like electromechanical and then you grab it, you know, all this kind of thing.
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This new one is swipe.
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And the best part of it is you get the glimpse of the new quote
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unquote Roadster or coupe rather.
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And you get to see this guy trying a new door handle and
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he must swipe it like this.
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Four or five times and it doesn't react.
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And I'm like, what is that?
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This would be the most infuriating thing on the planet for me, if this
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is how I have to now open my door.
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Apparently he was swiping up and you should have swiped down.
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I mean, I thought it was left and right.
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That's different, but it could be linked together.
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Instead of swipe, they should call it foreplay.
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And he just didn't know how to, how to get the car to do what he wanted it to do.
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Oh my God.
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He should have swiped right.
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Oh man, I, you know, I get, I get that.
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That's where technology and innovation is taking us, but it's just like, the more
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things get so technically complex like that, it's like, There's simplicity in
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simple things that will always work, like a door handle, like a button on a, on a
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phone or, or, or on something, not some touch tone thing that then the screen
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breaks and then you can't turn your AC on or off or something in your, your
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car, all these infotainment systems, you know, a dial, a button it's mechanical.
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Yeah, you can break it off if you're an idiot, but for the most
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part, these things last decades.
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I feel a rant coming.
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I mean, if you've ever used one of those Samsung TVs, and I'm sure
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there's other brands that do this with the touch front where there's
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no buttons, I have one of these.
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I've had the luxury of owning it for many years.
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I refused to touch it anymore because it's infuriating to
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hit the volume 9, 000 times.
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Let me just go get the remote.
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So hopefully my key fob for Tesla will allow me to open the door
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without touching the stupid thing, because if it's anything like the
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Samsung TVs, it'll drive you nuts.
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That's all I'm saying.
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And then how about, how's it going to handle rain when it's pouring down rain
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and there's water flowing down the side or ice it ices on a winter morning and
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you're, you're chiseling the ice off of it or pour it, pouring warm water
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to melt it because I can't open my door because you're wearing a glove.
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So I can't sense that you're opening the door.
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Okay.
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You got to get the new, you got to get those new gloves with the touchpads
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that you can use on your touchscreens or you just don't buy it as well.
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How does that work when it's wet, but I'll just leave that there.
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Let's just leave that.
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I don't know.
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I mean, I guess I, you know, maybe you, I mean, why don't you
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just make an app on your phone?
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Click the button and it opens.
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Swipe your phone.
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How do you get in when your phone's dead?
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You say open butthole and then a charging wire comes out and you
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can plug your phone in enough juice to recharge open my butthole.
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No, my butthole.
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No, no, no, no.
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My butthole.
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Can you imagine?
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You're standing at the charging station?
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Somebody doesn't know what's going on.
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I'm thinking about the scenario where you go golfing with your boss and then
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you're going back to the cars after you're, you're, you're around 18.
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And then you walk up to your car nonchalantly with your boss parked right
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next to, and his, uh, S 600 Mercedes, because that's what he's going to drive.
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And you just walk up and say, casually, Tesla, open butthole.
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What is your boss going to think?
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He's going to say, do you have any gray?
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He's going to say, he's going to say, uh, okay, you're going to,
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this is your last day, goodbye.
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You know, chances are he's a 12 year old boy on the inside too.
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So he'd probably like it.
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I don't know.
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Meanwhile on planet Tesla.
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In other Tesla news, very unfortunate.
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There was a recent accident.
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Not too far from my personal stomping grounds where a Tesla crashed into some
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trees that crash caused explosion, fire, et cetera, the car engulfed in flames.
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Varying reports.
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Saying the fire burned for four hours before it was put out versus I don't
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know, it was put out immediately and the fire department just there for
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four hours quenching re ignition of the batteries, blah, blah, blah, regardless
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of whether it was minutes or four hours.
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That thing definitely burned long enough that there was nothing practically left.
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There was no interior.
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There was no roof.
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There was no hood.
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There were no body panels.
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I mean, granted they might've ripped the doors off and everything and
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pushed them aside and weren't seen in the picture, but it was charred.
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The mystery of this right now, this happened in a neighborhood, this
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happened on a neighborhood street, leaving essentially a dead end, a cul
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de sac, an S shaped street, not even probably too long, as it was negotiating
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the first of the curve, the car lost control, ended up in this patch of trees,
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directly in front of people's houses.
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So obviously people heard the commotion or whatnot and called the
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fire department and called the police.
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The mystery of this is There were two people involved in this.
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Obviously, unfortunately they did not survive.
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There was a passenger in the front passenger seat, and there
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was a person in the back seat.
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The authorities are very adamant in saying that there
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was nobody in the driver's seat.
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So does that mean that this Tesla was put on autopilot somehow?
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I don't know how, cause I don't know enough about their autopilot system and
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engaging it somehow got up to a quote.
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High speed.
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Okay.
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And it must've been a high enough speed to careen off the road and then
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explode into trees because I would hope that the neighborhood speed of 20
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miles an hour, if you hit a tree, you wouldn't burst into flames because every
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fricking accident would be Chernobyl.
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How did that happen?
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You know, the initial report, you know, the authorities contacting Tesla, et
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cetera, Elon is being very, very careful.
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You know, he's saying that, no, the data that we pulled that autopilot was not
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engaged, this, that, and the other, I mean, you know, how can that be possible?
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If there was no, but no, no body found in the driver's seats,
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you know, how did this happen?
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And these weren't 20 something year old folks.
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These were.
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Older gentlemen, 59, 69, you know, so, you know, if they were 20 year
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olds, you could, you could argue, Oh yeah, he was in the driver's seat.
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He's showing off.
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He jumped into the back seat.
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Oh, look, my car drives itself.
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I have a hard time believing, you know, a 59 or 69 year old's
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going to pull that stunt, I could believe that there are people.
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Unfortunately, silly enough to be like, Oh, look at my car.
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It can drive itself.
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I'm not going to sit in the driver's seat.
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I don't know why you do that, because you could still prove my car drives
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itself and sit in the freaking driver's seat like a sane, rational
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person in case something goes wrong.
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I don't know.
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Maybe.
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There was someone in the driver's seat.
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Maybe they left the driver's seat after the accident, somehow trying to get
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out from the back of the car for some reason with the fire and all that.
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I mean, I don't know.
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It's very strange.
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It'll be interesting to see when the, the official black box and all that
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stuff, you know, other third parties get to see the data to confirm or, or not
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confirm whether autopilot was on or not.
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I mean, this is a very bizarre, tragic accident that didn't need to happen.
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Nobody's going to comment on this story.
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No, nothing to say.
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I mean, I don't, I don't, I, there's not much more to say on this.
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I'm sure more things will develop out of it.
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It's, it's very bizarre, very unfortunate in advertising in such a way that makes
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it sound like it's fully autonomous.
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And it, again, people, there is no such thing right now as a fully
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autonomous personal vehicle out there.
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Okay.
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None of the manufacturers have them.
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They, they are driver assist.
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And it's not just Tesla, Cadillac, and Volvo.
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I mean, all these companies are using this, not deceiving marketing, but uh, I
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think, you know what I'm trying to say.
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Well, they, they're all, they all misleading marketing.
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They all claim that they have, you know, the driver assist and all that.
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But I, I really think Tesla is.
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been the most negligent in the way that they advertise it, where they
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very much have always made it sound like it's this fully autonomous thing.
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No, it's not guys.
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The other, the other people, and maybe it's their learnings from Tesla,
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I don't think quite go that far.
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They make it a little bit more clear that it's.
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You know, level whatever, and it's just driver's aids and,
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and that's what they are.
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You're still supposed to be in control of the vehicle.
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You're not supposed to be reclined back and sleeping.
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You should still be paying attention at any rate.
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Please do not just blindly let your car that doesn't know what
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it's doing drive down the road because these people unfortunately,
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you know, lost their own lives.
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But.
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This was a neighborhood.
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Granted, it was, I think, pretty late at night, but what if it wasn't and
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there were children out or, you know, a family coming home in their minivan and,
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you know, you crash into somebody else?
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Like, don't do stupid stuff, people.
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Public service announcement.
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We've mentioned this before.
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Tesla profitability is all very confusing.
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Isn't it though?
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Because they're quote unquote, we sell so many cars, blah, blah,
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blah, ooh, our profits are so great.
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But without personally going through their financial sheet, not the first
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time, you know, allegedly, you know, most of their profits come from the
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carbon credit selling that they do and not from the actual car sales.
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And so they've been selling credits, carbon credits to some of the
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major manufacturers Stellantis.
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So, and you know, and others, and not surprisingly as Stellantis or, you know,
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Ford or GM or Volkswagen, all these people start generating their own EVs.
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They're going to be getting their own credits and they're going to
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no longer need to buy off of Tesla.
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And Stellantis has already said that they're going to save themselves some do
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re mi and pull out of whatever purchasing agreements they have, which we won't.
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Cost, I think somewhere near to the tune of 240 million
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to Tesla that they will lose.
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So considering apparently first quarter 2021 was something like
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533 million pre tax income, now they're going to lose 240 million.
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That's a pretty significant chunk of profit sheet.
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Now, if you've been continuing to follow our sub thread of Unsolved mysteries
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with respect to Stellantis, which Brad usually prefaces by saying, how the hell
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can they still maintain 700 horsepower V8s on 400 year old Mercedes chassis?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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My, I usually say, thank God they can still produce 700
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horsepower V8 monster motors.
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But this is the reason why they can remember we said they walk
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in the door and they go, I don't give a shit about anything.
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They're buying these credits from Tesla so they can continue to
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produce things like the Hellcat.
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I mean, it all makes sense now.
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So if what Tanya is saying is true and Chrysler is going back on that
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or Stellantis rather, that means that might be the death knell for cars.
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Like the track Hawk, the Hellcats, the, you know, the demon, all that kind of
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stuff, whatever's got that engine, that hand me 700 horsepower hand me in it.
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Why couldn't they use those credits for their diesels?
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That's a, that's a sore, sore subject.
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But as we said, months and months ago, as the majors were waiting.
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To see what happened and begin to tool up and develop their EVs.
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They're going to take their pot shots at Tesla.
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So what's coming next on you?
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This question was asked last month because it was like, Hey, what is Mercedes doing?
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I haven't heard anything yet.
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Well, funny that was asked because they're coming out in 2022 with their
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Mercedes Benz EQS, which is going to be their all electric entry into this realm.
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Brad, you look puzzled.
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Do you mean the Mercedes Volt?
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Because that's exactly what it looks like.
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Mercedes Chevrolet Volt.
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I'll give you that.
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It does look like a Volt.
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It is being labeled a Tesla fighter.
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I don't know.
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I will say when I was like, Oh yes, Mercedes.
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Oh, and then when I saw it, I was like, Oh no, Mercedes, what have you done?
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No, couldn't you?
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Oh, really?
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Maybe it'll look better in person.
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No, no, it won't.
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It looks like, you know what it looks like if you've ever been to a sporting
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event and they've got those, uh, the inflatable flying around drone vehicles.
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That's exactly what it looks like.
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I expect to see this floating around a Capitals game at the arena someday.
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No, I just want them to get rid of the EQS, or whatever they're
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calling it, and put a BLA, so we can just go, What do you drive?
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I drive a Blah.
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Unfortunately, from its profile, it has some very Oh,
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Tesla reminiscent lines to it.
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And it's like, come on Mercedes.
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Yeah, no.
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And then from the back, I don't know in the back if the, if the Mercedes emblem
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wasn't on there, I think it was Buick, but not even like the Buick of today,
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which is actually like, that's a Buick.
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That's your grandfather's grandfather's Buick.
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But this is like 10 years ago.
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Don't forget, we still got like the Lucid Air and like all these other
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cars that are back there that are that are chomping at Tesla's bit,
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you know, trying to get in there.
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And so I don't know, Mercedes, come on.
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We just talked about the Brits just take a GLA or C Class and
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dump an EV in it and go boom.
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And everybody goes, Ah, it's amazing.
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It's kind of like the e tron idea, right?
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It's like, right.
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Revolutionize on the design you already have and then retrofit
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the EV power plant into it.
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Everybody expects a certain level of design, quality and style from Mercedes.
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But this thing I'm with you, Brad.
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It looks like something from GM 15 years ago.
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I saw basically when it comes to Tesla competition.
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I say Audi and Porsche winning.
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They've got the best looking Tesla fighters.
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Especially the Tay.
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I gotta, I gotta tip my hat to the Taycan.
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It's way better than the Panamera.
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From every angle, it's not bad.
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You're kind of like, Hey, we got the four door 911 finally right
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after 35 years of trying it.
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It doesn't look bad.
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It's got good numbers and Porsche.
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It's going to take them a minute.
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Maybe they're not necessarily concerned with 600 miles of range or
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whatever, but they're going to build.
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So I stopped listening to you for half a second.
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Cause you said GLA, then something else.
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And if they're going to go retro, could we like a 300 SL going or even
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in like an AMG going all electric?
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Like, please, please.
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Are you listening?
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That sounds like a prime candidate for the electrogenic motor swap.
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I give you that too.
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It'll be unaffordable, but I would love to see it.
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Oh, no.
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Absolutely.
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I'd like to see that in more cars, that's for sure.
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Without further ado, the uh, Plaid edition of the Model S
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is finally slated to arrive.
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It is happening, and it is going to be the, quote, fastest production car ever.
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Ever according to Mr.
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Musk, until the Roadster hits the street, until something else.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Until the lucid air, uh, the labor case I say in, I mean, come on, this is, well
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this is the one that, you know, alleged, the thousand horsepower, blah, blah, blah,
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which I think the lucid air alleges 1100.
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So the Lucid Air is supposed to debut, I think, this year.
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So if it does come out, maybe.
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That will be the fastest production car ever.
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Now there was a plaid plus edition, which was the one I think that got you that
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extra a hundred horsepower, but that has apparently been canceled because
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the regular plaid is just so awesome as it is, there is apparently no need for
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the plus edition, according to Musk.
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So they've canned that.
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Okay.
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Maybe somebody can answer this.
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If you're listening, you know, comment, write us, call us, text us, whatever.
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When I hear the word plaid.
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Two things come to mind, Braveheart and boring, right?
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And not because Braveheart is boring, but plaid is boring to look at.
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So what is the deal with this plaid name?
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Like, what is the significance of this?
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Maybe, maybe Edson can tell us.
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He has told me, and my understanding is, I think it's a space balls reference.
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Like they go beyond light speed and they go plaid.
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I think something along those lines.
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So it's some kind of.
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In the know, kind of, which is why there's ludicrous mode and all that other stuff.
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I might be wrong.
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It's something like that though, but I can tell you the, so we do mountain runs.
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Uh, Edson has a model three and then we have another friend that has a
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model S, uh, the performance or.
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Perfer Monte or whatever they call it.
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And that car is no joke.
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I mean, that one is it's a couple of years old now, but it's zero to 60 and
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two, two, and it is just crazy, but I feel like they probably discontinued
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the plaid plus because of what we were talking about earlier with the roadster
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that's going to do zero to 60 and sub 1.
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1, although I know they wouldn't get a full second out of it.
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You know, at some point you start eating into your own market share there.
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I think there's the roadster that does it sub 1.
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1 with the cannons.
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And then otherwise it's like 1.
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8 or something.
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So.
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I mean, you know, Tesla's lovely.
21:37
They've done a lot to disrupt the car culture and technology and all that.
21:43
And that's wonderful.
21:44
And that's great.
21:45
But for 114, 000, I still want something else.
21:49
I don't care if it has a thousand horsepower and does 2.
21:51
2 seconds, zero to 60.
21:53
Like, I want to, you know, it has a thousand horsepower.
21:55
It costs, you know, it has a thousand horsepower.
21:57
It costs half as much.
21:58
Challenge your Hellcat.
21:59
Just going to put it out there.
22:01
Well, that's a good argument though.
22:02
I mean, and the argument both ways is, well, you know, and I'll keep
22:05
using the Roadster as an example.
22:06
The Roadster is going to be two 50 and it's going to smoke any car.
22:10
There is Bugatti, all of those buying these.
22:14
Here's my problem with it though.
22:15
All of these cars are not particularly attractive.
22:17
I think they're pretty vanilla.
22:19
So you pull up in a road, sort of LA and they park you in the back
22:22
because they don't know any better.
22:23
Right?
22:23
So you pull up in your, your hurricane or your guy or your,
22:27
even, you know, older stuff.
22:28
And they're going to go, Oh, wow.
22:30
That's special.
22:30
You know, even a three 60 Ferrari, which you can get for a quarter
22:33
of this for half this price.
22:35
You're going to be up front.
22:36
That plaid is going to be in the back somewhere collecting dust.
22:38
I mean, honestly, they're vanilla on the outside, the vanilla on
22:41
the inside and they're vanilla.
22:43
On my butt in the seat, because I've driven a model three before, and I
22:47
felt like I was driving a Nissan Ultima that I got out of the Hertz rental lot.
22:53
I mean, other than the fact that if you stop on it, yeah, you get thrown back in
22:57
the seat because there's so much torque.
22:59
Yeah.
22:59
The acceleration is ridiculous in an EV, but I don't know.
23:02
Maybe I need to drive a different one.
23:04
But I say you're just cruising around town.
23:06
It was no different than anything else.
23:08
It felt like a rental car.
23:09
I wasn't blown away.
23:10
I didn't feel like I was in this luxury for spending tens of thousands of dollars.
23:15
And I'm with Tanya where the Tesla doesn't give me anything back.
23:18
It hasn't convinced me yet that I can get rid of a GTI and have more fun.
23:23
It's the fun factor for at least for me.
23:25
There's that straight line performance, but there's not that overall performance
23:28
that I think, you know, like you said, it was visceral, you know, Tanya.
23:31
And it's, to me, that's what I keep going back to is, yeah, it's fast in
23:35
a straight line and yeah, it's faster than my car, but, uh, you know, I
23:38
want to hear it, I want to hear that.
23:40
I think I'd rather be in a, that Trans Am we talked about earlier, right?
23:44
You feel like, well, I'm supposed to be going fast.
23:46
It sounds like I'm going fast.
23:47
I'm probably doing zero to 16, eight seconds, but man, it sounds good,
23:50
you know, and it's smoking and I can smell it when eight seconds was fast.
23:54
Like, wow, it does it in eight seconds.
23:55
It's incredible.
23:57
We can take the plaid to the next level with the, uh, Pikes Peak racer,
24:01
because as we mentioned last year in the attempt at Pikes Peak, you know,
24:05
we kind of joked about this, there were several episodes where we captured
24:07
this and reported on it, Randy Pope's hooked up with unplugged performance,
24:12
made several Pikes Peaks attempt.
24:14
One time it went airborne.
24:15
They did complete the run up to the sky and all that they are returning.
24:19
With a modified Tesla plaid edition and are going to attempt the race to
24:25
the sky yet again, taking to the plaid to the entire next level, probably
24:29
into the stratosphere, because it's going to completely launch into orbit.
24:32
Good on them.
24:32
That's awesome.
24:33
Curious to see how it turns out.
24:34
I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Randy is doing it again.
24:36
I saw a video that he posted a day ago, so that'd be interesting to check out.
24:39
And there's a really great show on Motor Trend about last year about
24:42
them running and wrecking and things.
24:44
So it's pretty cool.
24:45
Boring company.
24:47
Take that as you will.
24:49
That's a real thing, right?
24:50
That's, that's called the boring company, but it's like boring through something.
24:55
This is the boring company that's making the underground hyperloop, if
24:59
you remember tunnels in Las Vegas, where the Tesla's were going to ride
25:03
on skates at high speed, a fully autonomous and zip you through,
25:08
you know, these underground tubes.
25:10
So you could move out Las Vegas without.
25:13
Walking around in the hundred million degree heat and all the
25:16
traffic and congestion and all that.
25:18
So they finally, uh, completed a 1.
25:21
5 mile loop and it's not quite as promised.
25:26
So yes, as most things, yes.
25:29
There are these.
25:30
Tunnels underground.
25:31
Yes, a Tesla vehicle drives through them, but no, they're not on whatever
25:37
these alleged skates were going to be.
25:40
No, they're not self driving and no, they cannot go at high speed.
25:44
So they are driven and it cannot exceed 35 miles an hour.
25:47
And it's basically a car that drives through an underground tunnel.
25:50
So what you're telling me is Tesla has an Uber service in Vegas right now, and
25:56
it was replaced by the existing monorail.
25:59
That already does everything you describe taking people from, you know,
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one place to the other doing a loop and they don't have to walk or be in,
26:06
you know, the sun, you know, the way I read it and the way I looked at it,
26:09
it's like the scariest small world ride.
26:11
You could have ever presented to me being trapped in a Tesla with a
26:14
Johnny cab going around in Las Vegas.
26:16
So I'm kind of glad it's just an uber.
26:19
I mean, it's not done yet.
26:20
There's plans for the next segments to be added on.
26:24
I don't recall all of that.
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Is super boring.
26:31
If you're claustrophobic, I can't imagine this is fun, but
26:34
here's my issue with it, right?
26:36
So it's a mile and a half and it takes you from one side of traffic to the other.
26:41
So it's not like it's avoiding all of the traffic.
26:43
So basically you're just the asshole that cuts line.
26:46
And a mile and a half to get up in the front, just like the guys that ride
26:49
down the emergency lane and traffic, I don't understand the logic here, right?
26:52
It's great.
26:53
You can speed through the tunnel, but you're still going to stop at
26:56
the end, which means you're just going to back up model threes all
26:58
the way back through that tunnel.
26:59
So, because we all know that Vegas is really Disney world for adults.
27:03
I mean, so it's just another attraction ride amusement.
27:08
To add to the amusement park, right?
27:10
I mean, it's just whatever.
27:11
It's, it's, it's a novelty.
27:13
I mean, why not, if you have the technology to allegedly make the
27:17
tunnel boring, way more cost effective than doing something above ground.
27:23
See, and this is where the frustrating thing of all this is.
27:26
It's like, if you have this technology, why don't you just Frickin build a subway.
27:30
Why don't you build a train that can hold people on a rail that would be
27:35
autonomous because a lot of the Metro rail systems actually drive themselves.
27:39
Yes.
27:39
There's a conductor in there to monitor, but for the most part, it's like a plane.
27:43
You put them on autopilot and they go and use that technology to bring the
27:46
cost down and actually move people.
27:49
Not like this gimmick of throwing a roadster in space to be space
27:53
junk, this gimmick to like, Oh, the Tesla drives in the tunnel.
27:57
Like who gives a crap?
27:59
How many people do you fit in?
28:01
You know what you just described?
28:02
You know what you just described?
28:03
The monorail.
28:06
It's autonomous.
28:06
And guess what?
28:07
It's an EV.
28:09
It's already there because we're, we like recreating the wheel.
28:12
Okay.
28:12
That's what it is.
28:13
That's where we're at right now.
28:15
Well, and the thing is, if they've uncovered technology that makes it more
28:18
cost effective to do it underground safely, and you don't have to do it
28:23
above ground and be in the way of putting cranes, blocking traffic, disrupting
28:28
everything, it's kind of out of sight.
28:31
Like, okay, well, let's do it in a way that makes sense.
28:34
Not in the way that's a gimmick.
28:36
I'm getting the feeling through this entire episode that
28:38
Tanya's not sold on Tesla.
28:40
I could be wrong.
28:41
Oh, I mean the entire series of the drive thru, I think at this point.
28:44
I'm making enemies.
28:45
I'm making enemies.
28:46
I mean.
28:47
As we switch gears, there is some good news in the electrified world.
28:52
More progress being made in terms of electrifying America.
28:58
So Electrify America has hit their 600 station mark in
29:02
trying to electrify America.
29:03
Electrify America.
29:04
That's good.
29:05
You know, we need that because that'll help people with range anxiety.
29:09
And obviously even without that, we need charging stations.
29:13
If electric vehicles are going to be more of a thing, people can't
29:15
rely on being able to just go back and forth to their home all day.
29:18
So this is good news.
29:19
And there's more companies than just electrify America that are building
29:23
charging stations and whatnot.
29:25
And actually to follow up on this.
29:28
I know I'm jumping ahead.
29:29
I hate to be remiss, but Tesla actually announced that they're
29:35
opening their charging networks or they're going to plan to open their
29:39
charging networks to other EVs.
29:42
That's if you have the adapter, right?
29:44
Cause they have a proprietary Connector or whatever, that's
29:47
how they're going to get you.
29:48
You got to buy the adapter from Tesla to be compatible.
29:51
Oh, the Apple model.
29:53
A hundred percent.
29:53
Exactly.
29:54
That's all.
29:55
That's all I knew it was coming.
29:56
You know, it honestly, it doesn't specify, but that's a great point.
30:00
That very well could be the case.
30:01
Oh, order your Tesla adapter now for the low, low price of 10 million Bitcoin.
30:07
And you too can charge on our ultra fast charging network.
30:10
How many carbon credits?
30:12
Do I get if I buy the Tesla adapter?
30:15
They have a glut of those now, right?
30:17
Cause everybody's giving them back.
30:18
Moving on.
30:19
We'd be remiss if we didn't move on.
30:21
It's time to talk about Tesla.
30:23
Oh God, here we go.
30:26
So there's three points to hit here.
30:28
And I think it ties back to some things we were already talking about
30:31
earlier around supply chain issues.
30:33
Microchip delays, things of that nature.
30:35
So the Tesla semi truck, was it just me or did that thing
30:39
drop off the face of the earth?
30:41
Cause that, that thing was coming.
30:42
Like I thought five years ago already, it was hot and heavy and
30:45
orders were made and we were going to make so many of them in crickets.
30:49
Which is, let me offend some people, kind of par for the Tesla course, right?
30:52
Because every time, like, we're announcing something, it's always like six years
30:55
later that it actually comes to fruition.
30:58
Whatever.
30:59
But, you know, that boy who cried wolf gets a little old after a while.
31:03
So the Tesla's truck is once again delayed and it's very unclear as to
31:10
what the delay is, but it sounds like it is essentially supply chain issues
31:15
and refocusing kind of what we were talking about earlier with the Ford is
31:19
they're refocusing their energy and The supplies that they do have, the semi and
31:23
the Cybertruck as they both are delayed.
31:26
They do kind of talk a little bit about, We believe we remain on track
31:29
to build our first model Y vehicles in Berlin and Austin in 2021.
31:33
Well, 2021 is almost over folks.
31:35
The pace of the respective production ramps will be influenced by the
31:38
successful introduction of many new product and manufacturing technologies.
31:41
ongoing supply chain related challenges and regional permitting.
31:45
To better focus on these factories and due to the limited availability of
31:49
battery cells and global supply chain challenges, we have shifted the launch
31:53
of the semi truck program to 2022.
31:56
We are also making progress on the industrialization of Cybertruck,
32:00
which is currently planned for Austin production subsequent to Model Y.
32:03
I mean, it goes hand in hand.
32:05
The Cybertruck is also delayed.
32:06
The Cybertruck was supposed to come out this year.
32:08
It's supposed to be in production.
32:09
That's not happening.
32:11
That one's vague too.
32:12
I would assume the whole we're shipping the Model Y is part of it.
32:15
There's also question as to, are they having problems with the design?
32:20
Or, or could it be, they got to figure out how to resell those carbon credits that
32:28
they sold everybody that got returned.
32:31
Or B, is it because they're under investigation for Tesla's
32:34
hitting emergency vehicles?
32:35
Let's unpack that.
32:37
Or before we unpack that, C, they're seeing how well the F 150 is already
32:42
putting presales in and they're like, Hmm, maybe this triangle blob thing
32:47
polygon from Nintendo 64 days isn't what people want as a pickup truck.
32:53
That's specifically why I put 100 deposit.
32:55
Can we get a doi from Brad?
32:59
I mean, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
33:01
So, I mean.
33:01
Those people are all blind.
33:03
You like the look of that thing, I guess, to each their own.
33:05
I mean, I'm not a pickup truck fan, but give me the F 150 all day, every day.
33:11
You can haul so much mulch.
33:13
If you're telling me I have to have a pickup truck, I would like
33:16
a traditional looking pickup truck.
33:17
So give me the F 150, give me a Rivian, give me whatever,
33:20
as long as it looks good.
33:22
Square body Chevy.
33:23
Dan will get you one tomorrow.
33:24
It's hot.
33:27
I do not want one.
33:28
So they are also under investigation right now because of the number
33:34
of times their Teslas have struck emergency vehicles while operating
33:39
in the autonomous mode, which they're still claiming is fully autonomous.
33:44
And then also Elon Musk recently tweeted in the last day or so how
33:48
their autonomous beta testing version, whatever the heck they're on 9.
33:52
2 or something.
33:53
Eh, might not be that great.
33:55
He's like, literally said something to that effect.
33:57
In my opinion, it's not so good.
33:59
Oh, okay.
34:00
Yes, that's what the rest of us know.
34:02
Because A, it is not fully autonomous.
34:04
There's no such thing yet.
34:06
There's no vehicle that you can lay down in the back seat and get to
34:09
where you're going without dying.
34:11
Okay.
34:11
I mean, you might get there once, but I wouldn't put my
34:14
faith in that more than once.
34:16
But it becomes a hearse at that point.
34:18
You go straight to the funeral.
34:23
Converse into a casket and you're done, I guess.
34:25
It's not like there's been like hundreds and hundreds of these accidents,
34:28
but I mean, there's been like almost like a dozen or so over the last five
34:32
years, which is more than enough.
34:34
to make people go why is it always happening when there's an emergency
34:37
vehicle on the side of the road with their lights flashing, particularly
34:41
in night or low light conditions?
34:43
What is wrong with this technology that's not seeing
34:46
what it should be seeing, right?
34:47
And I mean, I think it's Tesla themselves need to investigate this.
34:51
That's pretty serious.
34:52
Often when there's an emergency vehicle on the side of the road, there is a
34:55
human being on the side of the road outside of said emergency vehicle.
34:58
Does seem to be a reoccurring theme, whether it's police
35:01
cars, ambulances, et cetera.
35:03
It's like the camera system on the Tesla target fixates on those flashing lights.
35:08
It must freak out the camera in such a way that it causes The thing to
35:12
become basically like a homing beacon or like a, like a targeted missile.
35:16
I mean, it's just, it's nuts.
35:17
Something's happening, blinding something there.
35:19
I have read, he's very adamant in it.
35:22
Tesla's are only going to be using the camera technology as opposed to other
35:25
people's autonomous vehicles are a combination of the camera, radar, LIDAR,
35:29
all these things, or so my understanding is the, he's kind of insistent that it's
35:33
going to be a hundred percent of cameras.
35:35
It's like, okay, maybe one day, but it doesn't seem like
35:37
the camera technology is.
35:39
Quite as good as the human eye that's paying attention, plenty of people
35:42
at the hands of the wheel that have struck emergency vehicles also.
35:46
So I still think the biological alternative, you know, the organics
35:50
in your head are still far superior to any camera and any computer.
35:54
And that's part of the debate too, is just a computer.
35:57
They're not sophisticated enough to have that reason component and to
36:00
understand and to get the other clues that can warn you about something.
36:05
Not on a computer that small.
36:07
I mean, yeah, sure.
36:07
If you got big blue from IBM in the backseat.
36:10
Yeah, of course.
36:11
Yeah.
36:11
I mean, if you've got three stories of massive mainframe computers, I'm sure
36:16
it can be better than the human eye, but yeah, no, at any rate, we'd be remiss.
36:22
If it wasn't a drive through episode where we didn't talk about Tesla,
36:27
that was your best Siri voice yet.
36:28
Yeah, that was pretty good.
36:31
Thank you.
36:31
I tried Tesla.
36:33
So, uh, you know, it's, it's kind of a quiet month for Tesla in a way.
36:39
I mean, the cyber truck still delayed.
36:42
They're not doing this.
36:43
They're not doing that little roadster.
36:45
Who knows?
36:46
It's still floating in space.
36:47
Hashtag because chips.
36:49
However.
36:50
They're still dealing with a little teeny problem with their autopilot and
36:56
the autopilot hitting parked emergency vehicles, particularly police cars.
37:02
And yet again, another Tesla that is not fully self autonomous, even
37:08
though they think it is sideswiped the police car, nearly hit the police
37:12
officer who I think at the time happened to be getting out of the car.
37:15
So thankfully he wasn't killed or severely injured.
37:19
But it's just adding to the list for the NHTSA to investigate what
37:25
the heck is going on where the cars are seemingly getting very confused
37:29
with the combination of it's always happening in like low light settings.
37:32
So this was like early morning.
37:34
So it was still dark outside and it's seemingly like.
37:38
Darkness plus the flashing of the emergency vehicle lights is just, it's
37:42
like a fly to the electric bug zapper.
37:49
And they're just, they're just going, they're just going and,
37:52
you know, again, the morons.
37:54
Offense or no offense.
37:55
I don't care because you're not paying attention.
37:58
What are you doing that you're letting your car sideswipe a parked vehicle?
38:03
I'm just going to leave it there.
38:04
I can't believe I'm falling in the role of Tesla apologist.
38:07
I'm definitely not one, but it doesn't make national news when
38:10
anybody else sideswipes a cop that's pulled over on the side of the road.
38:14
And usually they don't pull over very far.
38:16
Sometimes they do that defensively to try and protect the car in front of them.
38:19
They Hang their ass out over the line or whatever to right.
38:23
And in a lot of states, it's illegal for you to stay in the lane adjacent
38:28
to the pulled over emergency vehicle.
38:30
And if you cannot exit that lane, you have to reduce your speed
38:33
by like 50 percent or something.
38:35
They do definitely need to program something into their autonomy that would
38:39
move the car in the opposite direction.
38:41
Not towards the, it would just sideswipe the car in the lane next to him.
38:45
So what the fair enough, but it doesn't make national news when
38:48
a Ford escape does it, right?
38:50
I think the problem is it's not, it's not so much Tesla.
38:53
It's so much that it's always the car is in self driving mode.
38:58
That's always the common denominator.
39:00
Yeah.
39:00
Because if it was just like, Oh, dumb ass, Tesla driver was driving and
39:06
texting and they sideswiped a car.
39:08
Yes.
39:08
That's no different than Ford Explorer driver.
39:11
Dumbass was texting lights, white car car.
39:14
You know, when you're somebody like Tesla, that's claiming how awesome
39:19
their self driving capabilities are and they're fully autonomous,
39:22
you're putting a target on your back.
39:24
And you're making it such that you're going to be the attention of every little
39:28
thing that happens because you're claiming you're something that you really aren't.
39:32
See Mark, this is the lesson we all learn about the drive through.
39:34
Remember I mentioned in our, in our pre session, we just
39:37
don't go there with the Tesla.
39:38
You let Tanya do her thing.
39:41
You let her rant, let her get it out of her system.
39:45
It's like, I haven't heard the actual empirical argument.
39:48
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
39:50
Insurance companies ensure all these different cars.
39:52
How many payouts do they make relative to mile driven on these cars?
39:56
Autonomous driving, no autonomous driving.
39:58
Is it doing better or worse than other expensive sedan?
40:03
I haven't seen anybody release that data set.
40:05
I don't know that.
40:06
I mean, obviously they have the data.
40:07
They absolutely have the data.
40:09
You know, I haven't seen any, any news around that.
40:11
I mean, certainly what do they call it?
40:13
Autonomous level three or whatever.
40:15
It's, it's a very dangerous point where it's, it's hard for humans.
40:19
It's hard to have the discipline to pay attention.
40:21
It really is.
40:22
So you either turn it off.
40:24
So you have to pay attention all the time.
40:25
Or you try to have the discipline to pay attention the entire time while
40:28
you're also kind of screwing around, because what else are you going to do?
40:31
I was going to say it's called driving, but I mean, I'm not going to open that.
40:35
Yeah.
40:36
I mean, I don't disagree with you that we don't have the numbers and there's a
40:39
lot of unsubstantiated claims that just say that there's far less accidents with.
40:44
You know, the self driving the set and the other and all these nannies and aides
40:47
that lane assist and all that stuff.
40:49
And, and then that might be very true because I do think there is a subset
40:52
of the population that is incapable of clearly keeping their focus on a single
40:56
task at hand, which would be driving.
40:59
And some of these aides are beneficial to the people around
41:02
them to keep them safe, but.
41:05
I just get very annoyed by, I love the way you worded that, right?
41:10
That was awesome.
41:12
Are you a lawyer?
41:13
I have no idea what you want in real life.
41:14
That was very, that was very specific wording.
41:18
I just get irritated by the ignorance or arrogance of people, the self driving,
41:23
like stop calling it fully autonomous.
41:25
It's not, we're not there yet.
41:27
It does not exist.
41:28
It's full autonomous.
41:28
It's called a monorail.
41:30
It's something like a rollercoaster where the thing is tied to a track.
41:33
That is full autonomous, but we're not yet at a point where we can just take
41:38
a nap in the driver's seat, roll the seat back, put on Netflix and chill, and
41:43
not kill somebody going down the road.
41:45
It's 2 o'clock in the morning and you're on a country road and
41:47
you want to go risk your life?
41:49
And drive off a cliff or into a tree, by all means, live your
41:51
best life for as long as you can.
41:54
I don't know, don't put other people's lives unnecessarily in danger.
41:57
And, and maybe one day we'll get there, but we're not.
42:00
And yeah, you know, it's only like 11 accidents in the grand scheme, sure.
42:07
But it's a black eye in the whole autonomous vehicle thing.
42:10
And I hate the way that they face the market with it, where it's like, if
42:14
they were just going to the market where they're like, yeah, accidents are
42:17
happening and they do happen, they will happen and pay attention, assholes.
42:21
Uh, use the future responsibly, but instead they react so defensively
42:26
and so aggressively against whoever bat, you know, whoever raises
42:31
concerns like, Hey, there appears to be a pattern to these accidents.
42:35
If they were more just transparent about the challenges with the current software,
42:40
I think they would get a lot further.
42:41
I want to say this and I don't want to belabor the point, but the one
42:44
thing that I take from all this is I approach it the opposite way.
42:48
You know, I was jokingly saying, hang up and drive.
42:50
You talked about, you know, being respectful of the future and the
42:52
technology and stuff like that.
42:53
When I look at driving, I think about the era in which we came up as drivers.
42:57
Again, petrol heads of a certain age, we were the last of the analog generation.
43:01
So we didn't have a lot of tech, but we were early adopters of technology.
43:05
But I see driving still as a freedom, as a privilege, things like that.
43:10
And I don't want to get into that debate, but what I also see it as is
43:13
that moment, those 20 minutes, those 40 minutes, whatever it might be, where
43:18
I get to disconnect from the grid.
43:20
I don't have to think about work.
43:21
I don't want to answer emails.
43:23
I don't want to see your text message.
43:25
I just want to turn on the radio, you know, my mixtape cruising in my five.
43:29
Oh, with my carburetor and my hand crank and get where I'm going and
43:33
just have a moment of decompression.
43:35
And driving gives you that opportunity.
43:37
So think about it that way, disconnect for just a moment, even if it's to go to
43:42
the local target or drop your kid off at school, put the phone down and just focus
43:46
on driving and actually driving becomes very much second nature and you do relax.
43:51
It's, it's not a high stress thing.
43:53
As long as you're situationally aware, we talk about that a lot.
43:57
In racing, keeping your eyes up and just being aware of what's going on.
44:00
But you do kind of let the rest of the world fade to gray.
44:04
And it's a moment of clarity that I don't think we can get or harvest
44:08
in a lot of other ways these days.
44:10
Unfortunately, we could tangent on that train of thought for a long time.
44:13
Cause I flat out, there's people that have said they just hate to drive.
44:16
So for a person that just.
44:18
Does not want to drive or be positive with it.
44:20
Then get an Uber, right?
44:21
You're not, you're not going to, you're not going to sell them on it.
44:23
It's their moment to disconnect because they don't want to disconnect.
44:25
They don't even want to be behind the wheel.
44:27
Like if they could have somebody else driving them, they would.
44:29
Right.
44:30
So that's for those people.
44:31
Yeah.
44:32
Self driving when it actually happens will be wonderful.
44:34
So let's, uh, let's switch gears.
44:36
We've hit on this already a couple times, electric cars and police
44:39
cars in apparently West Virginia.
44:42
The city of Nitro, West Virginia.
44:45
I didn't know such a city existed.
44:47
What a fancy name, which is near Charleston for those
44:50
who are geographically not challenged for West Virginia.
44:54
Has bought a Tesla Model 3.
44:56
To be used as a police cruiser.
44:59
Hold on.
45:00
I got questions.
45:02
And they spent an additional 10, 000 on top of the 40, 000 to buy it, to outfit
45:07
it with the light sirens and additional police equipment, the sport model.
45:12
Then none of that is important based on the previous topic.
45:16
We were just talking about, we have a Tesla.
45:19
That's a police car with lights and sirens.
45:22
And we're going to use it on patrol day, night, weather, withstanding,
45:26
does it just like implode?
45:31
The second autopilot's engaged, it actually enclapses in on
45:35
itself in, in like a black hole and it just, it disappears.
45:40
And the police officer becomes like quantum leap.
45:44
It's all downhill from there.
45:46
He now goes backwards in time to right histories and wrongs.
45:49
Oh, my goodness.
45:51
I think that's all we need to say about that.
45:53
I just let's follow this and see where it goes and how long this car actually lasts.
45:59
I mean, my biggest question with all these electric police cars, and
46:02
I believe we're going to hit on.
46:04
On this topic, actually later, what do you do in a high speed chase?
46:08
Like if you're out running the cop, I mean, you probably could get
46:12
away with it now because you only got to outlast the battery charge.
46:16
And I tell you what, a Tesla full tilt, I've done this on track
46:20
and I wrote an article about it.
46:21
It doesn't last a half an hour at wide open.
46:24
We'll call it wide open throttle.
46:25
Well, then you got to consider the battery was probably not
46:28
fully charged to begin with.
46:30
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
46:31
I mean, you can't outrun Motorola.
46:33
I'm not condoning any of this, but you can outrun those batteries.
46:37
I'm not saying you should outrun the cost, but we know it happens.
46:40
It'll be a Florida man story coming up.
46:42
I mean, it's fine.
46:43
It'll be West Virginia, man.
46:44
The last bit of.
46:45
Tesla news is interesting and not necessarily indicative
46:49
of anything electric.
46:51
co they issued an article that says Tesla obtains patent on its wild idea
46:56
to use lasers as windshield wipers.
47:01
And there's just.
47:02
So much here.
47:03
One could unpack.
47:05
This is definitely Austin powers, like sharks with fricking lasers on their head.
47:10
Exactly.
47:11
And you need to put one of those sharks, like, uh, like it's a windshield wiper.
47:16
It's all very confusing and the take that it could just be that they
47:20
came up with this idea and they're patenting it because that's what you do.
47:23
If you think you have an idea, put a patent on it.
47:25
So nobody else.
47:26
Can take it.
47:27
And you might not yet know what you're actually going to use it
47:29
for, but they framed it in this manner that really makes no sense.
47:33
Talk about it specifically for debris on your windshield.
47:36
So think dead bug, mud, bird doo doo, if you will.
47:41
I see it all falling apart very quickly.
47:44
So my windshield wipers are misaligned.
47:46
So my car blinded me,
47:50
then my windshield melted from the heat.
47:53
And then the car got confused by the laser beam lights that were
47:57
flashing at night during the rain.
47:59
And then you crashed.
48:00
Yes.
48:01
It's obvious and very apparent that the patent and trade office
48:04
is full of bad ideas, and this is just yet another one on that list.
48:09
I would have thought they'd use it for heat and like some kind of anti fog.
48:13
It's to give you like LASIK and cataracts.
48:18
We're going to burn dirt off of your windshield.
48:23
That just can't be efficient.
48:24
That can't be energy efficient.
48:25
It can't be efficient.
48:27
And it sounds like they would not have a traditional windshield wiper
48:31
blade going across the windshield.
48:32
It almost reads that way, but that would be impossible because what do
48:36
you do during a torrential downpour?
48:38
There's no, there's no amount of lasers that are going to clear the water.
48:46
And to do it, the laser would be so powerful that yes,
48:49
it would burn your retina.
48:50
It looks like a freaking like Calvin Harris midnight rave.
48:54
It's like, Lights everywhere, laser beams, and shit.
48:57
You might as well get out the glow sticks at that point.
48:59
I mean, it's gonna, it's gonna be a travesty.
49:01
Though it does beg the memory, the Cybertruck does not have
49:05
windshield wipers, I believe.
49:06
No, it has that, it has that Etch a Sketch thing, where it moves, does some
49:10
crazy thing on the, on the windshield.
49:12
Absolutely mental.
49:13
And the Cybertruck was delayed.
49:15
Maybe it was delayed for laser beams.
49:17
Chips.
49:18
Because laser beams.
49:19
The Model X was the Falcon doors, and the Cybertruck will be the Stupid windshield.
49:25
I guess we got to move on since we're already talking, you know,
49:27
we're talking about these new EVs.
49:29
I mean, nothing bad this month.
49:31
We already knew that Elon moved to Austin, um, personally or a year or
49:36
so ago, I guess now, and he lives in one of these solar Einhoven things.
49:42
No, there's too many round edges on, on the, uh, The glass won't
49:48
break if you throw something at it.
49:49
Yeah.
49:50
There's not, they didn't put the laser beams on the windshield.
49:52
So to wipe the water away.
49:54
Yeah.
49:55
So he personally moved to Texas to be closer to SpaceX and all this other stuff.
50:00
I'm sure he had issued, you know, other issues being angry at California.
50:04
It's been recently announced that he is going to move the headquarters.
50:08
Out of Palo Alto to Austin.
50:11
Nice.
50:11
It was every other Californian.
50:14
Along with every other big California company.
50:16
And part of it is citing the fact that California is just ridiculous in
50:21
different ways in terms of just congestion and cost of living, you know, aside
50:26
from the very stringent regulations.
50:29
that they have in place and whatnot.
50:30
So, uh, it'll be interesting to see how happy those California
50:34
workers will be to move to Texas.
50:35
They don't plan on shutting down the facilities they have in California.
50:39
If anything, they're, you know, alleging to ramp up production in the,
50:42
in the manufacturing plants there.
50:44
So what I am hopeful here.
50:46
On this one is Tesla moves to Austin, Steve Wynn owns DeLorean, which is
50:52
also in Humboldt, Texas, not too far.
50:55
They get together and we get an EV DeLorean.
50:58
This is what I'm waiting for, people.
50:59
The way it should have always been.
51:00
A hundred thousand percent.
51:02
But in other Tesla news, there's another drag race.
51:05
And it's this 14 minute video that you got to fast forward to the nine minute mark.
51:10
And then again, to like the, I don't know which minute mark to see
51:14
anything remotely interesting, but it's between a thousand horsepower
51:17
McLaren, whatever the hell it is.
51:19
And a Tesla plaid S version blue.
51:22
They did three runs.
51:23
They did a standstill drag race run, which the Tesla obliterated the
51:28
McLaren, which often no one's surprised.
51:31
I mean, I, and it was to no one's surprise that was.
51:34
Present for this drag racing.
51:36
I mean, off the line, electrics have the advantage.
51:39
We already know this.
51:40
Then they did a rolling start drag due to the fact that of course, McLaren's
51:45
going to suck off a dead stop line and the Tesla still really obliterated it.
51:51
And then their third one was a rolling start with advantage to the McLaren.
51:57
So I think it started with however many feet ahead of the Tesla and
52:01
the Tesla still caught up basically.
52:03
And I think it was.
52:04
Ended up being like a nose to nose kind of finish.
52:08
Hey, I got to add to the funny part of the end of this.
52:10
Not only did the Tesla outrun the McLaren, it also apparently has better brakes.
52:15
Yes, because the guy in the McLaren must've had a code brown moment.
52:19
Cause essentially he ran out of racing.
52:21
He ran out of runway or whatever they were drag racing on.
52:24
He ran out of drag racing.
52:25
And apparently literally managed to stop the McLaren an inch from hitting
52:32
like a fence or a wall or something.
52:34
The barrier at the end of the trash strip, you did some late breaking.
52:39
I have to say, I mean, you know, we talked about Ken Block earlier.
52:42
Obviously he's sold off Hoonigan.
52:44
This is another Hoonigan video.
52:46
He's kind of distanced himself from that, even though he's.
52:48
Kind of still affiliated or whatever.
52:49
It's still Hoonigan stuff.
52:51
It's whatever you're right.
52:51
The first like seven minutes is all about like cleaning products
52:54
and, Oh, isn't my car cool?
52:56
And all this kind of thing.
52:56
It's, it's whatever.
52:57
I looked at the clickbait, you know, McLaren versus plaid, and this is the
53:01
same as the Corvette one they did, which the Corvette also got obliterated.
53:05
It was some like 2000 horsepower, you know, nitrous injected quad
53:09
turbo Corvette or whatever.
53:10
And it was like, all right, yep.
53:11
The Tesla wins every time.
53:13
And it went great.
53:14
Hey, look yet another story.
53:15
Stupid drag race between a Tesla and something else
53:17
that's going to get crushed.
53:18
But you're right.
53:19
That ending made the whole video worth it.
53:22
So I just tell you guys to skip like the first 13 minutes and just watch
53:25
that last poll because it's the best.
53:27
After I lost interest after about five seconds, because like you
53:30
said, there's a bajillion of these.
53:31
I had an idea.
53:33
That's not drag racing anymore, right?
53:34
Nobody cares.
53:35
I want to see a Triumph TR7 and a Fiat X19 drag race.
53:40
Yes.
53:41
Old school stuff.
53:41
You think that video was long?
53:42
It was long.
53:42
It was long.
53:43
Wait till they figure out how to keep those running long enough to get to
53:46
the end of the that's the drag race I want to see what do they smell like
53:52
like fire and oil and they're running rich that's for sure there's other
53:57
Tesla news This month, which it's kind of funny, but also kind of scary.
54:01
Uh, you know, honestly, this is more, I feel like sensational
54:05
click baby than anything else.
54:07
The way the headline reads Tesla tempted drivers with insane mode and
54:11
now is tracking them to judge safety.
54:13
Experts say it's ludicrous.
54:15
Honestly, that title has nothing to do with the point
54:18
that's trying to be made here.
54:20
And so what's happening is Tesla's doing another beta test of their, you know,
54:25
full autonomous driving bullshit that.
54:27
Again, even Elon is admitting doesn't really work yet.
54:31
Okay.
54:32
It's not full self driving.
54:34
They're doing like another beta rollout and they want to do actual
54:38
testing with Tesla owners, as opposed to just dummy vehicles going around.
54:43
And so he's created this vetting process where he's created this
54:47
checklist, if you will, of, Grading scale for judging who will be allowed
54:52
to beta test this new software update.
54:55
So essentially he is tracking how people are driving.
54:58
It's a very stringent grading scale to the extreme of any kind of like
55:03
hard breaking, you get docked points.
55:05
And so you have to get like a perfect hundred, hundred
55:07
score or however your scale is.
55:10
To be allowed to beta test a new full self driving software.
55:13
And he's doing this because he only wants safe, trustworthy people to be trying this
55:18
out, to be the Guinea pig, if you will.
55:20
So it's not so much that he's trying to spy on everybody and,
55:23
and, and track their every moves and control their driving habits.
55:26
Not to say that things don't morph into other things, but it's supposed
55:29
to be this vetting process for people to pilot the new beta software.
55:35
And honestly, this isn't new.
55:37
If people are going to get all in there, Oh my god, everybody's
55:39
spying on me, meh, meh, meh.
55:42
Guess what?
55:42
Who was it?
55:43
Progressive did this already?
55:44
Like, Five, 10 years ago, where they gave you that little sensor to plug in
55:48
OBD port and they were tracking how you drive and you were supposed to save on
55:52
your car insurance and all this bullshit.
55:55
So guess what people it's already been out there.
55:56
I've been there, done that.
55:57
Let's not go conspiracy theory.
55:59
Ancient automotive enthusiasts contend that it is Skynet at the end
56:03
of the day, but Donovan, go ahead.
56:05
How many ways can we rip this part of the article apart?
56:07
Right?
56:07
It's just Um, first of all, experts say it's ludicrous.
56:11
That was, that's obviously a Tesla mode, right?
56:13
So either somebody scanned an article and they're like, Oh, there's a
56:15
little good, let's give somebody the fastest mode in the car.
56:19
And if they don't drive it safely, then we're going to do what?
56:22
I don't think it even has anything to do with the mode in the car.
56:24
It's just nowhere.
56:25
Have I seen where it says the beta is being tested in the cars with
56:29
the ludicrous mode and whatnot.
56:31
It's just a thousand Tesla owners.
56:34
are going to get to pilot the new software and he's vetting them
56:37
by tracking how they're driving.
56:39
So, so two things on that.
56:40
First of all, all those dudes from Hoonigan that we just
56:42
talked about, they're out there.
56:45
Second of all, I'm wondering, can you game the system by using the current, we're
56:50
going to put air quotes around autonomous driving, you know, level, whatever.
56:54
To get the perfect score.
56:56
So you're actually using the current system to qualify
56:58
yourself for the new system.
57:00
Probably not.
57:00
Cause I assume he's able to track that.
57:02
We definitely need Edson for these particular articles, but, you know,
57:06
I don't know if you guys have ever noticed, like every time Tesla article
57:09
you read is something they're doing wrong or something that's great.
57:12
And then you, you get in the actual cars and realize they're doing it all right.
57:16
And this article looks just like another attempt to twist it.
57:18
Tony, like you were saying around the, make it seem like.
57:21
Oh, they're at it again.
57:23
They're doing something dumb there.
57:24
You know, you don't want to buy a Tesla.
57:25
I don't understand why everybody has the hate for the Teslas, but I don't know.
57:29
I think Edson Paul's, we keep calling him Edson on GarageRat, you know,
57:33
showed me things like his in his model three, where, you know, there
57:37
was a feature somebody asked for, Hey, can we get these cameras now?
57:41
And I'm going to butcher it for the Tesla owners out there, but.
57:43
There's like the rear view.
57:44
And then there's like the corner ones that weren't normally on and
57:47
somebody tweeted it or something.
57:49
And Musk was like, Oh, that's a great idea.
57:50
Sent the software upgrade and boom.
57:52
Now they're there.
57:53
He also thought that open butthole was a good idea.
57:56
I mean, come on now.
57:57
Open butthole.
57:58
Yeah.
57:58
You don't remember that?
58:01
You open the gas tank voice command, you say open butthole, and then it's.
58:04
Open my butthole, like open the trunk or something ridiculous.
58:07
He thinks everything's a good idea, but still, you know, the fact
58:10
that we're quick to market with something, somebody made a suggestion.
58:13
That's a great idea.
58:13
Let's do it.
58:14
That to me makes Tesla the winner in the automotive market.
58:17
So, but it's also kind of scary too, that your car is controlled
58:20
by over the air software update.
58:23
So they can render you useless.
58:24
I also heard about something that came across my desk earlier about.
58:27
That Tesla is also talking about the cars will put in their own
58:31
orders for maintenance parts.
58:33
Can you imagine if the car ordered its own set of tires suddenly, and then you got
58:37
docked, you know, 1200 bucks because it's the only tire that's available for Tesla.
58:41
No, thank you.
58:41
There's certain parts of that I want to be disconnected from.
58:44
There's all kinds of, and you should get Paul in here and do maybe just a spin.
58:47
Specific Tesla interview, but there's all kinds of things about
58:50
eventually like he can't buy his car.
58:52
My understanding is he can only lease it because they plan to have this
58:54
back as a fleet later automated.
58:56
That's the Ferrari pyramid scheme.
58:59
Well, it's a, it's a, they can basically have them as automated Ubers down
59:02
the road and they'll be able to go, you can send it, pick up your dry,
59:05
clean, all kinds of crazy stuff.
59:07
So I don't know.
59:07
It's, I think it's pretty interesting, but I'll take that
59:10
84 GTI you were talking about.
59:12
Me too.
59:13
That's all I need.
59:16
But, but, but what about the fact that this wasn't breaking news on
59:20
every major news outlet and thrown in your face every two seconds?
59:24
I mean, if this had happened to Tesla, we would have been hearing about it
59:27
for weeks and weeks, and it would have been the hot news on every major news
59:31
outlet and on TV, it would have broken in as, you know, Breaking news in the
59:36
middle of, you know, Netflix and binge.
59:38
I mean, what the heck, come on.
59:40
Why is it always Tesla?
59:41
Well, we already know that they burned down in parking garages, right?
59:44
We've seen that time and time again.
59:46
So, I mean, is that really news anymore?
59:48
Well, you know what I'd like to address because it kills me.
59:51
You want to know why everyone makes a big deal about Tesla is because
59:55
when you put a bullseye on your back, that's what's going to happen.
59:59
When you're selling Cubix or Cognia.
1:00:02
At the price of diamonds.
1:00:04
Yeah, people are going to pay attention to you.
1:00:07
And maybe it's my perception, but I don't think Chevy, Ford, any of them
1:00:12
have ever pretended that their cars are perfect and that they don't have
1:00:15
recalls and they don't have issues.
1:00:17
They don't sit there saying that their cars are the best thing since
1:00:19
the invention of sliced bread.
1:00:21
So if you act like you're the hottest thing and then you're using Home
1:00:25
Depot to, you know, Build your cars.
1:00:27
Of course, you're going to get more attention.
1:00:30
I mean, I know I'm probably offending people when I say that, but it's just
1:00:33
like, you know, I don't know, whatever.
1:00:36
It's a shift in the status quo, I suppose.
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