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Full Show Podcast: 04 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, welcome into the program. One more
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Speaker 2: sleep and then you're on holiday. But we've got a
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Speaker 2: program to do and coming up in the next hour.
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Speaker 2: We're getting lost at sea and in the bush more
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Speaker 2: than ever and we're spending a fortune finding you. So
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Speaker 2: what's happening with search and rescue. We'll do that in
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Speaker 2: five minutes time. Economic data from December shows the bite
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Speaker 2: is real and the road to recovery as long how
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Speaker 2: to survive in twenty twenty five and ten minutes time.
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Speaker 2: And David Seymour is considering campaigning on withdrawing from the
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Speaker 2: Paris Accords. Have they done their time or is there
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Speaker 2: something salgeable and they fight against pollution and its impact
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Speaker 2: on the environment. We'll have that story just before six.
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Speaker 2: We'll have correspondences from around the world and around New
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Speaker 2: Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have your
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Speaker 2: say by giving me a text ninety two to ninety two.
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Speaker 2: Newstalks at b dot Co. Do on n z It's
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Speaker 2: seven U to five.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: So it is Tuesday, the fourth of February, and first
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Speaker 2: to the United States, where the trade war continues. The
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Speaker 2: Trump administration has agreed to pause sweeping tariffs of Mexico
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Speaker 2: for a month. This is while the two sides hammer
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Speaker 2: out an agreement on security and trade. However, Trump's not
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Speaker 2: stopping with the tariffs. He says the EU could be next.
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Speaker 3: It will definitely happen with the European Union. I could
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Speaker 3: tell you that because.
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Speaker 4: They've really taken advantage of I said, you know, we.
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Speaker 3: Have over a three hundred billion dollar deficents.
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Speaker 5: They take almost nothing and we take everything from them.
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Speaker 2: Well, French President Emmanuel Macron took up the challenge. He said,
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Speaker 2: if the EU's commercial interests were attacked, it would have
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Speaker 2: to make itself respected and therefore it would have to react.
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Speaker 2: Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who has arrived in the
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Speaker 2: United States and he is going to be the very
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Speaker 2: first foreign leader to meet Donald Trump since he returned
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Speaker 2: to the White House two weeks ago, which you have
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Speaker 2: to say is a bit of a sub Nisa. Yahoo
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Speaker 2: will begin his first meeting with US Middle East Envoy
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Speaker 2: Steve Witcoff later on today.
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Speaker 6: President Trump has been making it very clear that he
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Speaker 6: wants to see an end to the wars in the
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Speaker 6: Middle East or we've had, the Israeli Prime Minister saying
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Speaker 6: repeatedly to his domestic audience, Israel does reserve the right
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Speaker 6: to return to fighting.
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Speaker 2: Now back home, and Treasury has sent a strong warning
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Speaker 2: to the government. It says significant reform and reductions to
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Speaker 2: public services will be needed in the not too distant
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Speaker 2: future if the government sticks to its current restricted spending track. Well,
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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis says she believes the projections which extended fifteen
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Speaker 2: years into the future what she calls highly uncertain. And finally,
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Speaker 2: to some music cam Beyonce took home Album of the
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Speaker 2: Year at the sixty seventh Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Finally, finally,
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Speaker 2: so Kenya didn't have to come up and complain. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: there was speeches because the whole thing was about La.
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Speaker 2: The city Firefighter Fleet was presented an award as a
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Speaker 2: tribute to the Los Angeles wildfires.
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Speaker 1: It's been many, many years.
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Speaker 5: Every songwriter, every collaborator, every producer, all of the hard work.
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Speaker 2: There we go and that is Beyonce it's nine after
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Speaker 2: five dickens. So the government told us a lot that
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Speaker 2: New Zealanders say no too much, and they've spent their
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Speaker 2: first year saying no a lot, which I was surprised
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Speaker 2: that one of the first things they said no to
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Speaker 2: and stopped in its track was the ent islander replacement
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Speaker 2: program that's known as IREX. After ordering some fairies, kiri
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Speaker 2: Row went back to the government wanting an unlimited check
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Speaker 2: to build some wolves. Now Labor first heard about it,
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Speaker 2: they didn't say no, But then again they didn't say
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Speaker 2: yes either. The National government gave a very loud no,
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Speaker 2: canceled the ships and the wolves. And that's a very
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Speaker 2: important point. The ships were bought and they are a goodbye.
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Speaker 2: They were a good price. The wharves didn't cost a
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Speaker 2: heat because they needed to be bigger. What blew the
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Speaker 2: budget was earthquakes and making the wharves used by both
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Speaker 2: Bluebridge and Kiwi Rail and two state of the arts
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Speaker 2: very fancy terminals, and that was expensive. But Nicola Willis
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Speaker 2: halted the whole lot, ships and all. Now there has
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Speaker 2: to be an answer. We know this because billions of
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of trade crosses every year, and yet there
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Speaker 2: seems no urgency because the latest in this saga is
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Speaker 2: from Business Desk, who revealed yesterday the government has yet
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Speaker 2: to establish the company it said it was setting up
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Speaker 2: to buy the ferries. The Finance Minister announced that they
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Speaker 2: would do that back on December the eleventh. It has
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Speaker 2: not happened yet. It's a critical part of the deal
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Speaker 2: and the creation of a schedule for company is needed
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Speaker 2: if the government is thinking about creating a state owned
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Speaker 2: enterprise out of Kiwi Rail in a drive towards privatization,
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Speaker 2: as suggested by Richard Prebble. So with these things, time
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Speaker 2: is of the essence, but the government seems unaware of
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Speaker 2: the pressure and goodness knows what's happening with that schedule
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Speaker 2: for company. This is a terrible saga because it drags on,
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Speaker 2: partly because the government has a pathological dislike of everything
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Speaker 2: the previous government did, but also because it's being a
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Speaker 2: bit tardy and it's spade work. So Nicola, don't say no,
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Speaker 2: just say yes, because we voted for grown ups and
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Speaker 2: prove in financial management. But most of all, we voted
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Speaker 2: for an aspirational country.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens is.
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Speaker 2: Eleven a half to five. We're waiting for relief. By
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Speaker 2: the way, we've got some new economic data out. It
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Speaker 2: comes from CENTRICX. It's for December. Personal loan areas rose
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Speaker 2: by nine point two percent in December by now pay
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Speaker 2: Later arreas rose eight point two percent. Residential mortgage areas
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Speaker 2: were up seven percent. Reported financial hardships up nineteen percent,
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Speaker 2: half of them related to mortgage repayment difficulties. Construction has
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Speaker 2: been hard hit defaults, some liquidations up forty percent. Residential
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Speaker 2: new home builders recorded the highest number of annual liquidations,
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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five of them. Two hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty five builders went down over twelve months. Transport industry
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Speaker 2: hit as well, a whole load of liquidations there, one
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one transport companies gone. The pinch is
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Speaker 2: real and the recovery is a waiting game. So look,
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Speaker 2: we're going to look at just how we can survive
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. Some handy hacks on how to
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Speaker 2: survive it in twenty twenty five in ten minutes time.
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Speaker 2: But next, why are we getting lost so much? We're
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Speaker 2: talking search and rescue.
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Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your
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Speaker 1: property search simple. You've talk said be.
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Speaker 2: It's a quarter right for five now, Over the last
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Speaker 2: six months, there's been a significant increase in search and
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Speaker 2: rescue operations. This is compared to the year before. Land
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Speaker 2: Search and Rescue say they've seen a twenty three percent
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Speaker 2: increase in the demand for services and a twenty three
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Speaker 2: percent increase in the number of people being assisted. We're
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Speaker 2: getting lost and it costs to save us. So Chief
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Speaker 2: Development and Project Officer Johnny Franklin is joining me now.
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Speaker 5: Hello, Johnny, Good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 3: How are you good?
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Speaker 2: Why are we getting lost?
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Speaker 5: That's a really good question. The data for that last
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Speaker 5: six months or so, it's still a bit fresh, so
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Speaker 5: we've not had an opportunity to analyze it, so it's
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Speaker 5: probably quite difficult for us to answer that at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Well, what kind of operations are they.
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Speaker 5: There's a variety of operations, you know, the typical things
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Speaker 5: that people to expect. Land search a message to be
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Speaker 5: involved in the alpine environment of the bush environments, but
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Speaker 5: also we get involved in operations in urban areas for
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Speaker 5: people who may have cognitive conditions, and that accounts about
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Speaker 5: twenty five percent of our operations, and obviously as our
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Speaker 5: population gets older, that percentage increases.
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Speaker 2: Why you're still analyzing the figures, it's you know, it's
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Speaker 2: very tempting to say we're getting more tourists again, and
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Speaker 2: more tourists are doing this the appropriate you know, preparation
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Speaker 2: before they go into these difficult environments.
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, we are seeing an increase in
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Speaker 5: a number of international tourists coming to New Zealand, but
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Speaker 5: we're still not at the same levels as we were
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Speaker 5: pre COVID.
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Speaker 3: And yet.
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Speaker 5: We're still seeing that increase at the moment. And we
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Speaker 5: also have to remember that, you know, this number of
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Speaker 5: tourists only accounts for fifteen percent of such a rescue operations.
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Speaker 5: You know, that still wouldn't account for this huge increase
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Speaker 5: that we've but still addition in the last six months.
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Speaker 2: But still the numbers go up and we have to
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Speaker 2: find them and we have to save them. Therefore, you
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Speaker 2: have to have enough money to do it, and you
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Speaker 2: have to have enough people. So what does this mean
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Speaker 2: for the amount of volunteers you're having to deploy.
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Speaker 5: Well, obviously the number of volunteers deploying goes up with
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Speaker 5: the number of instances occurring. We have sufficient volunteers At
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Speaker 5: the moment, we have three thousand, three hundred volunteers around
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Speaker 5: the country. But you know, they give up their time
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Speaker 5: and that's their most valuable asset, and we are currently
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Speaker 5: expecting them to provide most of the equipment, which places
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Speaker 5: a huge financial burden on them. So, you know, over time,
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Speaker 5: that makes it more difficult for us recruit.
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Speaker 2: And do you have enough people?
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Speaker 5: We do have enough people at the moment, but I think,
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Speaker 5: you know, for the longevity and the sustainability of the organization,
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Speaker 5: removing those barriers to recruitment is the only way that
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Speaker 5: we can probably continue to be able to provide that
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Speaker 5: service in the future.
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Speaker 2: And how sustainable is your funding model? These increases you
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Speaker 2: need more money even though you depend on volunteers. So
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Speaker 2: how sustainable is your funding model?
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Speaker 5: Well, I think at the moment we're able to well,
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Speaker 5: we're very fortunate to receive eight point seven eight point
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Speaker 5: seven eight million from the government, but in order to
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Speaker 5: fully equip all of our volunteers and provide a fully
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Speaker 5: funded service, that would probably that cost about twenty five
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Speaker 5: million dollars we estimate, and we're able to make up
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Speaker 5: some of that funding by you know, local charitable trusts, etc.
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Speaker 5: But the volunteers do bear the vast majority of underspend themselves.
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Speaker 2: Well, Johnny, could you thank the more for us? You
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Speaker 2: guys do amazing work and great work and we will.
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Speaker 2: Where would we be without thank you for everything you've done.
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Speaker 2: That's Johnny Franklin, Chief Development and Project officer from New
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Speaker 2: Zealand Land Search and Rescue. And don't forget the simple stuff.
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Speaker 2: Take a knee perb. I mean, have you ever thought
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Speaker 2: about a one mobile phone? Now they've got the starlink
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Speaker 2: and tell people where you're going, and don't be silly,
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Speaker 2: don't get lost. It is eighteen after five. It's a
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Speaker 2: hard year. We know this and the figures out us
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Speaker 2: out of December only prove that. So how do you
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Speaker 2: get through? We're going to talk to a mortgage broker
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Speaker 2: at a few moments time as we head into twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five and how you can survive.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens are afili edition with one roof. To make
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Speaker 2: It is five twenty one, so Kiyi's as still waiting
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Speaker 2: to see a shift in the economy. We know it,
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Speaker 2: we feel it, and now we've got facts New Centric
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Speaker 2: data out this morning shows reported financial hardship increased nineteen
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Speaker 2: percent in the past year, and most of those cases
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Speaker 2: were down to mortgage repayment issues. The mortgage is killing us.
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Speaker 2: So I've got a mortgage broker on the line right now.
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Speaker 2: He's from Key Mortgae. It's Jeremy Andrews. Hello, Jeremy, Morning,
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Speaker 2: andrew A. Were you surprised by the nineteen percent figure?
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Speaker 3: Not too surprising, could have been higher, I guess a
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Speaker 3: lot of I guess a lot of that's a lot
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Speaker 3: of that is from mortgages, people going through kind of hardship.
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Speaker 2: So, in other words, you know that the economy is
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Speaker 2: a bit tanky at the moment, and so you were
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Speaker 2: expecting a nineteen percent. It's still not a good number
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Speaker 2: the way it's not.
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Speaker 3: It's been pretty hard out there, especially businesses. Last five
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Speaker 3: years or so, it's been a pretty hard run. They've
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Speaker 3: been COVID supply chain issues, lockdowns rates after that, rates
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Speaker 3: have gone from kind of record loads to the highest
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Speaker 3: a lot of those new businesses would have seen.
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Speaker 2: And all those people are wanting it to improve soon.
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Speaker 2: And can you see improvement in the next coming months
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Speaker 2: or is this going to be a medium term thing.
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Speaker 3: So, so from the interest rate perspective, yeah, that's that
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Speaker 3: is slowly getting better, but it's not it's not going
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Speaker 3: to be a magic turnaround. I think that the hardship
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Speaker 3: levels there is still going to continue on for But
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of hurts out there. Stillest rates really high.
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Speaker 3: It was still still reduced, I guess as people buyers
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Speaker 3: and consumers are still struggling to afford things and spend
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Speaker 3: as much as they used to.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing though, here's the thing that the
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Speaker 2: ocr is coming up, And yesterday all the news was
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Speaker 2: about Trump's tariffs and suggesting that maybe a too too
12:39
Speaker 2: dramatic drop in the in the interest rate might not
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Speaker 2: be in our in our favor, and therefore the interest
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Speaker 2: rates could stay high for a while. So there are
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Speaker 2: a lot of people out there right now with mortgages
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Speaker 2: thinking to themselves, what on earth do I do? What
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Speaker 2: would you what would you suggest?
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Speaker 3: Yes, so we've seen quite a bit of changes in
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Speaker 3: the last six months gone. It's gone from kind of
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Speaker 3: not planned to reduce them to quite quickly reduce them.
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Speaker 3: But the fixed rates maybe haven't come down quite as
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Speaker 3: much as people were hoping or as quickly. It's just
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Speaker 3: in the last week there's been quite a bit more
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Speaker 3: dramatic shifts. So we're now getting interest rates kind of
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Speaker 3: down around the kind of early to mid fives or
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Speaker 3: that kind of short short term. I'll probably suggest that
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Speaker 3: most people, yeah, edge your bets, don't necessarily just hope
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Speaker 3: that rates just can continue to free fall and keep dropping,
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Speaker 3: maybe fixing some of your loans that more more midterm.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of people are actually holding
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Speaker 3: off and floating over the last six months. I don't
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Speaker 3: think I've ever seen so many people on floating just
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Speaker 3: hoping for rates to really go well.
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Speaker 2: I'll take that. I'll take that as a vote of
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Speaker 2: confidence by the New Zealand people to into floating because
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Speaker 2: they believe that things are going to get better, because
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Speaker 2: just a month or so ago, the one year fixed
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Speaker 2: rate was the go for everybody. Now, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Andrews. Jeremy is a mortgage broker from Key Mortgages.
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Speaker 2: It is five twenty four jobs. It's getting hard. It
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Speaker 2: is hard. We know it's hard to get jobs, but
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Speaker 2: it's particularly hard to get jobs if you're young and
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Speaker 2: if you're old. More on listen to moment the early.
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Speaker 2: It be New Talks B. It is five twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. I'm Andrew Dickens. Suddenly it
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Speaker 2: is tough to get a job, which is quite amazing, really,
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Speaker 2: because you may remember a few years ago we had
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Speaker 2: jobs for everyone, and then some we had to import
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Speaker 2: people left, right and center. But now it's tough, and
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Speaker 2: yesterday we learned the teenagers in search of their first
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Speaker 2: job are struggling to land anything in the current employment market,
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Speaker 2: and some are searching for as long as two years.
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Speaker 2: It must be heartbreaking. You can see why we has
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Speaker 2: been talking about it with Jeremy before. In tough times,
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Speaker 2: you need experienced workers, and with so many experienced workers
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Speaker 2: losing their job, saying, there's a whole cohort of older
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Speaker 2: workers floating around. They're taking the jobs the youngsters used
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Speaker 2: to get, and you can't blame those older guys. You
15:07
Speaker 2: need to ditch your humility and concentrate on cash flow
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Speaker 2: to survive in twenty twenty five. We all need money.
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Speaker 2: I'll take a job that's below me. But the older
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Speaker 2: generation is also fitting the heat. Old workers are finding
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Speaker 2: it harder and harder too. They may have the knowledge,
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Speaker 2: but boss is younger than them. Sit there and wonder
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Speaker 2: how many years have you got left in you? How
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Speaker 2: many years can you give the company? The souper is looming,
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Speaker 2: the kids have left home, the mortgage is paid. You
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Speaker 2: want to go fishing, don't you?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 2: I might not put my money on you. It's said
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Speaker 2: that we need to be a meritocracy again. It said
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Speaker 2: that these days we need to hire the best person
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Speaker 2: for the job. Ditch the DEI, you know, the diversity,
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Speaker 2: equity and inclusion. Find the best person for the job,
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Speaker 2: no matter how old or young they are. Surely we
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Speaker 2: should be hiring the experienced guys, even if they can
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Speaker 2: only give five years, because they are experienced. And surely
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Speaker 2: we should be hiring the kids because they are a
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Speaker 2: great vestment. They will pay their way back to you
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Speaker 2: for the next twenty five years. So here's the message
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Speaker 2: to middle management in these tough times. I'll go for
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Speaker 2: an old guy or a young guy. Those guys in
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Speaker 2: the middle not so sure. Five twenty eight seconds. There
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Speaker 2: are sharks all over Sydney right now. The headlines were
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Speaker 2: in the Sydney Morning Herald, yesterday, warmer Sydney waters mean
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Speaker 2: a longest shark season and they're going into the harbor.
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Speaker 2: There are bull and tiger sharks all over the Sydney Harbor.
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Speaker 2: And now the headlines are also saying, maybe we need
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Speaker 2: to be putting in some nets that they do in
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Speaker 2: New Caledonia. Maybe we need to stop swimming in the
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Speaker 2: inner Cidny beaches. Blame the climate, blame the good weather. Whatever.
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Speaker 2: The sharks love Sydney right now. I mentioned that because
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Speaker 2: at the moment, Tony Demayo is joining us and a
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Speaker 2: teenager has died in a shark attack. Don't want to
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Speaker 2: freak you out or anything. I'm sure it's safe in
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Speaker 2: the water. Shark attacks are extraordinarily rare, but not for
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Speaker 2: this one teenager. So we'll have that story for you.
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Speaker 2: Talk about the Grammy Awards on the way as well,
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Speaker 2: because I don't know any of this, and I know music.
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Speaker 2: Is this a Grammy Award winner? It's a Chapel roone,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, oh okay, I know a
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Speaker 2: little bit of it. I'll tell you a little bit
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Speaker 2: more about that. And also should we be out of
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Speaker 2: the Paris Climate Accords? David Seymour Rickens he might campaign
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Speaker 2: on that. We'll talk about this before six. It's Early
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Speaker 2: Edition with Andrew Dickens on News Talk ZIBB.
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Speaker 1: The News You Need this Morning and the in Depth
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Speaker 2: First, what is he? Welcome back to the program. So
18:08
Speaker 2: glad you chose us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. For one bridge,
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Speaker 2: It's Beyonce, Cowboy Carter Texas hold him. She won the
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Speaker 2: Grammy Album Award finally, So the Grammys have come and gone,
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Speaker 2: and Kenny his wife forgot to wear Clothes and the
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Speaker 2: big winners in the Grammy Awards where people most of
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Speaker 2: us have never heard, let alone heard of. Critis described
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Speaker 2: the award winners as a return to a gender setting pop.
18:31
Speaker 2: But who listens to pop for an agenda? So Chapel
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Speaker 2: Rome we played her just before the news. She's the
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Speaker 2: big new talent. She writes great songs. Cloak though in
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Speaker 2: a hysteria and a vocal gymnastic She's like, She's like
18:42
Speaker 2: if you haven't heard her, She's like Kate Bush and
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Speaker 2: Cydey Lauper on Speed and also x rated often it's
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Speaker 2: hard to even figure out her words. Thank god for
18:50
Speaker 2: Spotify's lyric service. Kendrick Lamar was the other big winner,
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Speaker 2: jazzy rapper. He hit pay dirt with a bitchy little
18:57
Speaker 2: hit song about another rapper, Drake who's under a Peter
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Speaker 2: file cloud?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 2: Who needs that playing on a pub's jukebox?
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Speaker 7: Eh?
19:04
Speaker 2: So feel free to feel old and I do. But
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Speaker 2: the glory days of pop saw songs that resonated with
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Speaker 2: many ages. They saw songs that you don't need a
19:14
Speaker 2: subscription to a Hollywood gossip service to understand, which is
19:17
Speaker 2: why you got the Grammys. On one side, but it's
19:20
Speaker 2: now official that Coldplay and Taylor Swift are the biggest
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Speaker 2: artists on the planet after their tours. They write proper
19:25
Speaker 2: pop songs, and yet they weren't the big winners and
19:28
Speaker 2: the Grammys. Now. The big issue of the day came
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Speaker 2: from David Seymour again, the ACT leader. Seior Minister has
19:36
Speaker 2: floated taking a policy of pulling New Zealand out of
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Speaker 2: the planet at Paris Climate Agreement, and he wants to
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Speaker 2: take that to the next election get a mandate, potentially
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Speaker 2: making Paris withdrawal an ACT election promise. What do you reckon?
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Speaker 2: You can text me ninety two ninety two, And now
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Speaker 2: Trump's done it already. Other big nations are considering. And
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Speaker 2: it's fair to say nobody understands the mechanism or the
19:55
Speaker 2: point of the emission's trading scheme, which feels to me
19:58
Speaker 2: like some sort of Ponzi scheme be roarted by someone.
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Speaker 2: I don't know who is watering it, but somebody is
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Speaker 2: pocketing all the money we send overseas. So is it
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Speaker 2: time to admit defeat and that we do ourselves no
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Speaker 2: favors by trying to lead the world from our tiny
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Speaker 2: and isolated position, or should we carry on? What do
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Speaker 2: you think? Ninety two ninety two, And we'll have more
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Speaker 2: on this just before six. It's twenty one to six.
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Speaker 2: Andrew dickens the country. We go Callum Proctor, Good morning
20:23
Speaker 2: to you morning, Andrew. Tell me about the tyfire.
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Speaker 8: Well, this was the big blaze which started Thursday last week.
20:31
Speaker 8: It's a huge cover twelve hundred hectares. Crews at the
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Speaker 8: scene still dampening down hotspots. Will South and Fire an
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Speaker 8: emergency now have an indication of what caused this large
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Speaker 8: scrub fire. They say it's thought to have been accidental
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Speaker 8: fire an emergency, saying prelim investigations point to an electrical
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Speaker 8: event involving a power line as the possible cause. Here,
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Speaker 8: they say, an in depth investigation will continue to determine
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Speaker 8: the full circumstance surrounding the Subjec fire. How's your weather,
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Speaker 8: callm It's mainly fine for today and today cloudy this afternoon.
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Speaker 8: Southerly's turned eastly at eighteen.
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Speaker 2: And I thank you and we go to chrash It's
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Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood, Good morning to you. Good morning, nig Tahoo
21:12
Speaker 2: gets Christopher Luxem for White Tongy.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, this is a rare occasion for night Tahoo.
21:17
Speaker 7: This why tung Y Day. Christopher Luxon of course spending
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Speaker 7: the day at the Aka or Maraia. It's all Nukumdai
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Speaker 7: based on Banks Peninsula, probably about an hour and forty
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Speaker 7: five minutes from the city now. It is believed that
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Speaker 7: this is the first Prime Minister to visit or nuku
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Speaker 7: on Wy Tongy since Halen Clark in the year two thousand.
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Speaker 7: The event is open to the public. They are expecting
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Speaker 7: quite a crowd, which means, of course, lots of catering
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Speaker 7: to be organized and the rest of the hospitality too.
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Speaker 7: Runanga chair Rick Tainui says it's a great opportunity for
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Speaker 7: night Tahoo to spend some time with Christopher Luxeen. He
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Speaker 7: hopes Luxen will listen to the Corridor on the day
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Speaker 7: about the positive things and what's needed moving forward for
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Speaker 7: not only the EWEI but also the country.
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Speaker 2: And your weather.
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Speaker 7: Flatting over this morning there will be a spot of
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Speaker 7: drizzle before midday, afternoon, fine spells, southerlyes easing and a
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Speaker 7: high of twenty.
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Speaker 2: A Max toll is in Wellington. Good body, Max. Good
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Speaker 2: Morning's politic going to close? Oh well, So this story
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Speaker 2: is about FITA and well Tech considering closing their central
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Speaker 2: creative campus Tekahuahua, a typic king essentially reviewing its assets
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Speaker 2: its properties around the country with the government looking to
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Speaker 2: set up regionally autonomous institutes of tech and polytechs. This
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Speaker 2: campus on Dixon Street had only opened in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 2: It's very lavish inside. It's got two theaters. You can
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Speaker 2: go watch comedy shows there, for instance. It's got a
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Speaker 2: fifty five seat a cinema, a gallery, a performance studio,
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Speaker 2: but unfortunately four Fitada and well Tech its numbers are
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Speaker 2: way down post COVID. It says a significant drop in enrollments.
22:54
Speaker 2: The Terseary Education Union warning that this proposal to close
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Speaker 2: this campus is effectively a gloomy sign of further trouble ahead. Wonderful,
23:03
Speaker 2: how's your weather? Should we mainly find a bit of
23:06
Speaker 2: cloud this afternoon? Southerly's twenty the high central neither if
23:10
Speaker 2: your mind? Who now joins me from Auckland? Do you
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Speaker 2: want to go for dinner at Taicho?
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Speaker 9: Good morning?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 9: I do not type people will be thinking what are
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Speaker 9: they talking about now? Yes, this Auckland Japanese restaurant. So
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Speaker 9: it's been at the center of this food borne disease.
23:24
Speaker 9: But it's saying that it's cooperating with authorities following reports
23:28
Speaker 9: of this outbreak. So what we know that the New
23:31
Speaker 9: Zealand Food Safety was informed a number of people have
23:34
Speaker 9: become unwell. So we don't have a figure on that,
23:36
Speaker 9: but a few, quite a few. I can tell you
23:38
Speaker 9: that this is in that outbreak. And those who outside
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Speaker 9: of Auckland, you know this Tycho Japanese restaurant, it's in
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Speaker 9: Ponsonby and that main area the are of where all
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Speaker 9: the eateries are so It says that this is the
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Speaker 9: New Zealand food safety saying, look, we've visited the restaurant
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Speaker 9: and working alongside Auckland Council to put corrective actions in
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Speaker 9: place if required. But you look on those online reviews
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Speaker 9: Andrew at the restaurant and so you know, lots of
24:02
Speaker 9: people have put in their vomiting diarrhea O saying they've
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Speaker 9: had to go to hospital, to the emergency room.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's heartbreaking for them. I've actually eaten at Taycho
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Speaker 2: have you and I lived It was actually quite nice.
24:13
Speaker 2: But you right, you have a bad day, You have
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Speaker 2: a bad day exactly, and it only takes one goat.
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Speaker 9: And you don't go back. I mean, I've never been,
24:21
Speaker 9: but you know obviously with us, you know you don't
24:23
Speaker 9: want to poopoo things on that one. But yeah, Hawkin's weather, right,
24:27
Speaker 9: it's fine apart from some morning cloud. To twenty five
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Speaker 9: is the.
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Speaker 2: High good stuff Neiva Retto amount of seventeen minutes to
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Speaker 2: six Should we stay in the Paris Climate Accords? Luke
24:36
Speaker 2: writes the biggest driver of man made climate change is
24:40
Speaker 2: dot dot dot dot dot funding good text Luke Paul
24:45
Speaker 2: rides Great from Seymour get out of that nonsense, bureaucratic
24:47
Speaker 2: elitist talk fest, and Ollie rides a payment of a
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Speaker 2: foreign tax is not going to save us. Pragmatic use
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Speaker 2: of our resources with the New Zealand will happy days.
24:56
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ollie. More on this just before six.
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Speaker 2: Donald to Mayo is.
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Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
25:04
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 2: It's fourteen to six, fourteen minutes away from the make
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Speaker 2: Hostking breakfast and we go off to Australia and Donna Demayo, Hello, Donna,
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Speaker 2: good morning. All right, it's all about sharks. One kid's
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Speaker 2: dead and another woman attacked in Sydney right by the
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Speaker 2: Opera House.
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Speaker 10: Oh, this is dreadful to hear that a seventeen year
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Speaker 10: old has lost her life. She was swimming at Bribie Island,
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Speaker 10: north of Brisbane late yesterday afternoon and we hear that
25:36
Speaker 10: there were injuries to her upper body. Surf Life Saving
25:40
Speaker 10: were on duty at the time. Paramedics headed to Wooham
25:44
Speaker 10: Beach and unfortunately the young woman, this seventeen year old,
25:49
Speaker 10: died from her injuries. This is the place very popular
25:52
Speaker 10: with locals. They swim there, they serve there they go.
25:55
Speaker 10: Fishing also very popular with tourists on the southeast side
25:59
Speaker 10: of the island, which is what is called an open
26:02
Speaker 10: surf beach. The other side is more calm. Admittedly now
26:06
Speaker 10: it's reported that there were drum lines actually in place. Also,
26:11
Speaker 10: it's supposed to catch sharks using bait and large hooks,
26:15
Speaker 10: and the locals already said that, look, they know that
26:18
Speaker 10: there are a lot of sharks in those waters, but
26:20
Speaker 10: it's the shock that this shark got so close to shore.
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Speaker 10: Third shark attack in Queensland in less than three months,
26:28
Speaker 10: and it's the second fatal shark attack in just over
26:31
Speaker 10: a month.
26:32
Speaker 2: All right. Meanwhile, Neo Nazi's suffering given more of a
26:35
Speaker 2: crackdown in Australia.
26:38
Speaker 10: Yes, the Labor government has rolled out these new sanctions
26:41
Speaker 10: for Nia Nazi groups, targeting these white supremacist groups in
26:44
Speaker 10: the wake of a raft of anti Semitism and a
26:48
Speaker 10: spate of it. So Foreign Mister Petty Wong says that
26:51
Speaker 10: the government needs to use all the tools to tackle antisemitism,
26:54
Speaker 10: So they're focusing on something called Terragram, which is an
26:57
Speaker 10: online network that enables these groups to bred hate, she says,
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Speaker 10: and this is an example of what she says, using
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Speaker 10: all those tools to prevent the rise of extremism. So
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Speaker 10: these sanctions mean now that any engagement with Terogram is
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Speaker 10: a criminal offense. And if you're fan ten years in prison.
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Speaker 2: Donald Demayo out of Australia, I thank you. It is
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Speaker 2: our twelve to six Dickens all right. New Zealand's future
27:22
Speaker 2: involvement in the Paris Agreement is up in the air.
27:25
Speaker 2: David Seymour has hinted that ACT may campaign on leaving
27:28
Speaker 2: the accord after the twenty twenty six election. Now, Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump's already pulled the United States from the scheme and
27:34
Speaker 2: has fortnight of action, and there's concerned that other big
27:37
Speaker 2: admitters could pack their bags too. Talks it up to
27:39
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the people. It might be countries might
27:41
Speaker 2: be leaving now. The Associate Professor of Environmental Law at
27:44
Speaker 2: the University of Wayhadow is doctor Nathan John Cooper, who
27:48
Speaker 2: joins me. Now, hell, Nathan.
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Speaker 4: Kyoto, good morning.
27:52
Speaker 2: Is the whole agreement in trouble with so many people
27:54
Speaker 2: saying we're pulling.
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Speaker 4: Out, Well, I think that's premature. One of the great
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Speaker 4: successes of the Paris Agreement was just how many countries
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Speaker 4: signed up, and so while while obviously the US has
28:07
Speaker 4: signaled that it's beginning to withdraw, I think the vast
28:11
Speaker 4: majority of countries are going to remain in that framework
28:13
Speaker 4: for the CIBUL future.
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Speaker 2: But if the bigger MISSUS leave, you know, if the
28:17
Speaker 2: US leaves as it already has, if China and India
28:20
Speaker 2: decided to scalper, why should a little old New Zealand stay?
28:26
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think China, India or Russia are likely
28:31
Speaker 4: to leave. However, I think climate change, which obviously is
28:36
Speaker 4: the big challenge that the Paris Agreement is there to
28:40
Speaker 4: respond to, it's a global challenge, and so it really
28:42
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense for individual countries to move away from
28:46
Speaker 4: a framework that pulls together our contributions, coordinates things, monitors
28:52
Speaker 4: them in favor of just some sort of independent action.
28:55
Speaker 2: But is it fit to say that a lot of
28:57
Speaker 2: people have fallen out of the Paris Climate Accords because
28:59
Speaker 2: of the mechanisms use to combat climate change, that they
29:03
Speaker 2: feel theoretical, that they don't feel like they're actually going
29:05
Speaker 2: to make any change, and they're expensive.
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Speaker 4: Sure, there's no doubt that some of the action that's
29:14
Speaker 4: required is expensive. And it's inconvenient as we transition towards
29:19
Speaker 4: sort of low carbon options. That's all pretty inconvenient, but
29:25
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, that needs to be
29:27
Speaker 4: balanced against the size of the problem that's being faced.
29:30
Speaker 2: I know the problem, I know their problem. But does
29:32
Speaker 2: the other climate accords the solution? Are they working? Have
29:37
Speaker 2: we seen any of these these mechanisms work?
29:44
Speaker 4: I suppose it depends what you mean by work. Ultimately,
29:46
Speaker 4: the Paris agreement's there to try to strengthen global response
29:49
Speaker 4: to climate change, principally by limiting global average temperature rise. Now,
29:54
Speaker 4: we saw in twenty twenty four that actually, over the
29:57
Speaker 4: course of that year the average temperature rise compared to
29:59
Speaker 4: period industrial levels was around about that one point five degrees,
30:02
Speaker 4: which has always been the sort of first Paris Paris target.
30:06
Speaker 4: So in that respect, the world is warming, it's warming
30:11
Speaker 4: quicker than we wanted to, and so you could say
30:14
Speaker 4: that it's not succeeding. But if we look a little
30:16
Speaker 4: bit deeper as to why maybe there's less success under
30:19
Speaker 4: the Paris Agreement than we would have liked, a lot
30:22
Speaker 4: of it is that commitments are made by countries, but
30:25
Speaker 4: that we don't actually follow through with those commitments, so.
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Speaker 2: In which case it doesn't work. So people it's what
30:32
Speaker 2: people will say is it's virtue signaling. We go to
30:35
Speaker 2: a meeting, we say big stuff, we do nothing, So
30:38
Speaker 2: what's the point.
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Speaker 4: Sure, I think there's a long way between doing everything
30:44
Speaker 4: that's required and the alternatives doing nothing. So countries are
30:48
Speaker 4: stepping up, and it's been encouraging to see recently that
30:52
Speaker 4: some countries newly announced nationally determined contributions they're kind of
30:58
Speaker 4: pledged for the next round of emissions reductions have been
31:03
Speaker 4: pretty ambitious. Unfortunately, I don't think New Zealand's own pledgure
31:09
Speaker 4: has been as ambitious as it could have been.
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Speaker 5: But there's definitely a big car.
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Speaker 4: Sorry no, but there's definitely quite a lot of examples
31:18
Speaker 4: there as to how the Paris Agreement is encouraging countries
31:25
Speaker 4: to step up in a way that we've never seen before.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the biggest, it's the biggest climate agreement,
31:32
Speaker 4: is the biggest international treaty that we've seen.
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Speaker 2: All right, Doctor Nathan John Cooper, I thank you for
31:37
Speaker 2: your time. Associate Professor of Environmental Law, University of Waykota.
31:40
Speaker 2: David Seymour is wanting to leave and now, of course
31:44
Speaker 2: he becomes the acting Prime Minister, doesn't he He's the
31:47
Speaker 2: deputy from now on. And this is going to put
31:49
Speaker 2: Christopher luxon and yet another interesting position. So we'll wait
31:54
Speaker 2: to see about that. You can tax ninety two to
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Speaker 2: ninety two, and I can tell you are if you
31:58
Speaker 2: have something to say about this. Seven to six.
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Speaker 1: Consider the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one room to make
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Speaker 1: your property search and simple.
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Speaker 2: You talk zippy, Yeah, you don't like it. We should
32:16
Speaker 2: pull out of the Paris Agreement before it bankrupts us
32:18
Speaker 2: Saul who says it's a global wealth transfer system. Ben
32:22
Speaker 2: wanted me to ask the professor of environmental law what
32:25
Speaker 2: has the money been spent on so far? And Brent reckons,
32:28
Speaker 2: thank god, a little sense of the world. We should
32:30
Speaker 2: pull out of the Climate Accord. Doesn't make a difference
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Speaker 2: to the climate. No, does it cost us money?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
32:34
Speaker 2: Why are we in a politics? Let's tackle real pollution?
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two, Small charge of players. Mike Cosking
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Speaker 2: call morning.
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Speaker 11: I will be asking, funnily enough, the Prime Minister, who
32:44
Speaker 11: will be in this very studio this morning about the
32:47
Speaker 11: B and Z speaking of climate change and their desire
32:51
Speaker 11: to close down legitimate businesses as a result of Paris.
32:55
Speaker 11: So if we pull out of Paris be interesting to think,
32:57
Speaker 11: isn't it? Because Seymour taps into that zeitgeist and there's
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Speaker 11: a certain percentage of people who will be going about time.
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Speaker 11: Fantastic good on him.
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Speaker 2: Graham's just said, mister Seymour has hit the nail straight again.
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Speaker 11: Problem is they said that a lot before the last
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Speaker 11: election on a lot of different things. Treaty Principles Bill
33:13
Speaker 11: is probably a good example, but they don't get the vote.
33:16
Speaker 11: You know, it's all very well going, Yes, go David
33:18
Speaker 11: and all that sort of stuff. At eight percent? Eight percent,
33:20
Speaker 11: isn't it at the end of the day. But Prime
33:22
Speaker 11: Minister's on the program do you want to play but
33:24
Speaker 11: a quick pop quiz? And I'm being unfair to you. Yeah,
33:26
Speaker 11: but I'm only I'm only doing this because you're a
33:29
Speaker 11: music person.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've already ranted about the Grammys. I'm not
33:32
Speaker 2: happy about the Grammys. It doesn't like the music and
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Speaker 2: the Grammys.
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Speaker 11: Greg Johnson, Greg Johnson, Yeah, what was his third album?
33:38
Speaker 11: Oh Jesus Hotel, No good, good, guess good guess by Vine.
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Speaker 2: Streets, Sinestree Stories. Where did he record that?
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Speaker 11: Don't know?
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Speaker 2: In the basement of his home?
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Speaker 11: Yes, and Vine he rolled a grand piano.
33:54
Speaker 2: Yes, well done. There we go? And where is Vine Street? St?
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Speaker 2: Mary's Bay? I thought in the monopoly we used to
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Speaker 2: we used to teach them about that. Oh, Greg, you're
34:03
Speaker 2: a struggling musician, struggling in Saint Mary's Bay? Are we here?
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Speaker 3: We go?
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Speaker 11: Anyway, I'm gonna tell you that he's on the program
34:08
Speaker 11: today because we get to the country for another two
34:10
Speaker 11: and he was close to the fires. Yes, he was,
34:12
Speaker 11: very much so you evacuated.
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