Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Getting a Job in Venture Capital | John Gannon - Co-Founder of Going VC
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- 0:00So I guess the question is, you teach these things probably in the cohort in the newsletter,
- 0:15but what are some tips for people that do want to get a job in venture capital?
- 0:21What do they need to do because you mentioned it's not an easy process?
- 0:25Yeah, so if you want to dig into a bit around how I just want to actually get a venture capital job,
- 0:32one thing I like to talk about is what I call the five-legged stool.
- 0:39And the five-legged stool is really a way to think about what are the most important things to a VC,
- 0:45because if you put yourself in their shoes, you're going to be in a much better position to understand
- 0:51what they need, what they want, and how to add value to them.
- 0:54And so in terms of what are those five legs, one of those things that VC's care about.
- 1:00So one of the most important things is deal flow.
- 1:04So, combining companies that are investable and ideally finding those companies before other people do.
- 1:14Before it gets competitive.
- 1:16So that's one aspect.
- 1:17There's also for their existing portfolio companies, another leg of the stool is,
- 1:22and as in helping those existing companies go out and raise more money.
- 1:26So if I'm Quiner Perkins and I do a series A in a company,
- 1:30a company's probably going to need a series B, right?
- 1:33And there's going to be an investor that's going to write that series B chat.
- 1:39And so being able to assist in terms of helping other companies that have already raised
- 1:45venture money, kind of go to that next round is another important piece of the job of being a VC.
- 1:51And if you can help VC with that through your network, that's another big value ad.
- 1:58The third is around the investors in the venture capital fund themselves.
- 2:05So they're called limited partners.
- 2:08And so limited partners could be kind of worth individuals,
- 2:11but if you look at like really big venture funds like the Sequoias and the Quiner Perkins,
- 2:16they're getting their money from large endowment, university endowment,
- 2:24folks like the Rockefeller Foundation, right?
- 2:26Like a lot of these really large long scanning institutions are ones that are investing in venture
- 2:33capital. And so if you as a job speaker through your network and access to people in those
- 2:39worlds or high net worth individuals who are interested in investing in venture funds or in
- 2:45startups, that can definitely be a value ad, particularly for newer funds, which are earlier on
- 2:51in their journey where they've not necessarily locked up the Princeton down to write them
- 2:57$20 million check, but maybe they're raising a $5 million fund. And so someone who can write
- 3:02100K check is actually quite meaningful to them, right? So that's another area in terms of ad
- 3:08and value. Hiring is another piece. So if I'm a VC and I've got maybe I'm on the board of
- 3:15678 companies, one of the most important things that I'm trying to do is make sure that
- 3:20company is staffed properly, has a best talent. And although I'm not directly responsible for it,
- 3:26my CEOs of those companies that I work with are going to kind of expect that I'm going to be sending
- 3:32them really high quality folks who can potentially become employees or executives at those companies.
- 3:37And so if you can help with that through your personal network, that's another way you can add value
- 3:41to a VC straight away. And then there's a kind of a fifth bucket which is around business
- 3:49development sales and M&A, which is if you can help a VC's portfolio get in front of people
- 3:58who can buy their products, buy their company or otherwise partner, that's a big value add as well.
- 4:05So as a job seeker, it's kind of up to you to like inventory your network and your skills and
- 4:10your interest and figure out out of those five legs. You're not going to knock all of them on the
- 4:15part, but there's probably a couple that you would kind of gravitate to or have a strengthen.
- 4:20And those are the things that you'd want to lean on in terms of how you want to conduct your
- 4:24search and sort of which firms you might want to approach with what kind of pitch. And then how would
- 4:30you deliver value to them to really show them before you even have a job that you're someone who could
- 4:35actually do the job? For some jobs, it seems like a simple project or something could show some sort
- 4:44of value to a hiring manager, but for a venture capital firm, would it be an introduction to
- 4:49somebody? I guess it depends on what value you bring to the table, but it seems like it's a big
- 4:52ask before you even sit down with somebody to show value. So you have an idea of how you could do
- 4:58that? To make sure I understand the question you're asking, how specifically can a candidate show
- 5:04value in one of those areas? Yeah, sure. So the old flow is a great one to talk about because
- 5:13it's one that's critical right to a VC. They have to make new investments so they need
- 5:18to deal flow. They need to be ideally getting to these companies before other folks do. And so
- 5:26an example would be maybe you went to the school with a bunch of folks who out of that group,
- 5:35there's a few who maybe they started their own businesses while they were in school. Or maybe
- 5:41they were just like insanely smart and they were the kind of people where you look at it and
- 5:45you said, you know, that person is they're going to really do great things in their career. So
- 5:50if you are in touch with those kinds of people from to be your child, doing to be from your
- 5:55college experience, I think people you work with previously kind of keeping tabs on what they're
- 5:59working on. And if you see them working on a new thing that looks like something that could fit
- 6:06into the venture back start-up space, i.e. a software company, an internet company,
- 6:11right, those types of things, then if you're trying to build relationships with
- 6:16C, those are the kind of folks where you want to try to be that connection basically between
- 6:24the people from your network and the VC because it's very compelling if you're starting to develop
- 6:31our relationships with a VC, to be able to come to them and say, hi, you know, this is I'd like
- 6:37to introduce you to my friend Jen. She started this amazing software company. She was at the
- 6:44top of our class at Penn State and, you know, I really wouldn't highly recommend that you
- 6:51choose to look at this company. And oh, by the way, they've already got some paying customers
- 6:55or, you know, whatever the case may be in terms of their status. Like, that is a great way to both
- 7:02deepen a relationship with a VC, but also, it can give you a reason to get in touch with VCs as well.
- 7:12One of the things that I talk a lot about, and we focus on our going VC program is
- 7:16acknowledging what we call an investment thesis. And an investment thesis is really your sort of
- 7:21unique view on a certain sector or market. And by sort of a well-defined view, what I mean by that
- 7:30is having the ability to deep dive on that entire sector, the companies that are in that sector,
- 7:38both the big ones that are maybe public and also the smaller ones that are just getting funded
- 7:43and everyone in between. And then having a really specific angle in terms of which types of
- 7:49companies in that sector, you would invest in and why. So as someone who's trying to get in touch
- 7:54with VCs or get them interested, it's also quite compelling to actually create almost in a written
- 8:01form, which commonly you might see a 15, 20-slot debt that really articulates that thesis. And
- 8:07now that I've seen folks in our program create these investment thesis, sort of document them,
- 8:13and then share the amount I've linked in. And I just emailed my list about this actually
- 8:17a couple of days ago. There was a team of folks who were in my going DC program, two people.
- 8:24They created an investment thesis around AgTech. They posted it. And the post got over 30,
- 8:33I checked the other day, got over 30 comments and over 100 reactions. And even got an inbound,
- 8:40at least one inbound and feeling when I know about there could be more. From a VCs,
- 8:43you said, hey, I saw the investment thesis. I'm a little confused, right? Which is what you want.
- 8:47But that is going the other way where they're coming to you, which is obviously superior to you
- 8:53going in and sort of asking someone if they have any kind of opportunity.