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Rerouting Hurricanes | Editing Embryos for Designer Babies · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus is coming back.
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  Speaker 3: IM six forty Bill Handle Here. It's a Monday, June
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  Speaker 3: twenty nine. Supreme Court handing down some big decisions. We'll
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  Speaker 3: talk more about that tomorrow because this is the week
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  Speaker 3: in which the major decisions are handed down. The Court
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  Speaker 3: always says this last week before they go on their
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  Speaker 3: recess until October, and so we'll talk more about that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: In a couple of cases that the President did not
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  Speaker 3: win and a couple of cases that he did. Now,
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  Speaker 3: this is something that I just shake my head. And
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  Speaker 3: when we talk about the polarization, one of the big
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  Speaker 3: aspects of polarization is religion. And it used to be
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  Speaker 3: in the seventies, the concept of separation of church and
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  Speaker 3: state was absolute. I mean Nativity scenes in Park's Thank You.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't talk about religion, even to the point where
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  Speaker 3: the Pledge of Allegiance had some problems because it's under God.
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  Speaker 3: So let me tell you what Texas did on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: They passed a law that mandates more than five million
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  Speaker 3: public school students must study Bible stories. Texas is emerging
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  Speaker 3: as a leader in the conservative effort to infuse Christian
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  Speaker 3: teachings into school The Texas State Board of Education voted
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  Speaker 3: and passed a measure that would establish Biblical children's stories
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  Speaker 3: and Bible verses as required in the CA to twelve curriculum.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, Texas became the largest state to require classrooms
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  Speaker 3: to display the Ten Commandments, where you couldn't before. Man
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  Speaker 3: there was case after Casus said no, thank you can't
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  Speaker 3: do it in the classroom. Well, they passed a law saying,
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  Speaker 3: you bet, you must put the Ten Commandments up in
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  Speaker 3: a classroom in a way that everybody can see it
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  Speaker 3: and determine what the font is and the size, and
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  Speaker 3: that was upheld by the courts. So some new titles
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  Speaker 3: that are required in the schools. There's a picture book
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  Speaker 3: adaptation of the story of David Goliath that's for elementary school,
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  Speaker 3: Bible passages about Adam and Eve for older students, and
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  Speaker 3: the same meaning.
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  Speaker 2: The board took.
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  Speaker 3: Up a vote to rewrite the state's social studies curriculum,
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  Speaker 3: focusing more on Texas in US history, de emphasizing some
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  Speaker 3: of the teachings about global history and cultures because it's
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  Speaker 3: all woke and the change eliminates a course any course
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  Speaker 3: of world cultures and expands the evils of communism as
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  Speaker 3: being taught in the schools. And as you can imagine, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this goes into effect in twenty thirty, so we have
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  Speaker 3: a long time to wait. But the schools or the
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  Speaker 3: proposals sharply divided teachers, parents, community members, and in front
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  Speaker 3: of the school board during public hearings. Man, was it
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  Speaker 3: a enthusiastic group of people on both sides that were
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  Speaker 3: going crazy. Now, those people that oppose the changes say
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  Speaker 3: the mandatory reading favors Christianity among over other religions and
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  Speaker 3: violates the separation between church and state. And I guarantee
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  Speaker 3: you the Supreme Court is going to uphold this, because
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  Speaker 3: the court now is the separation of church and state
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  Speaker 3: is going to disappear. And we've already seen cases where
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  Speaker 3: religious beliefs overrule almost anything because its first Amendment. And
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  Speaker 3: so they also say, we're talking about those that oppose this,
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  Speaker 3: that the teachings infringe on parents' ability to lead their
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  Speaker 3: kids religious education. That is probably the strongest argument against
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  Speaker 3: this law, this new mandate, and in recent years.
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  Speaker 2: Texas is above is ahead of the game across the board.
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  Speaker 3: Here Texas has broadly eliminated studies of racial and cultural diversity,
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  Speaker 3: expanded the school's abilities to introduce Christianity to students as
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  Speaker 3: part of the curriculum, even to the point where now
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  Speaker 3: it is mandatory. In twenty twenty three, the state became
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  Speaker 3: the first to allow chaplains to be counselors to students.
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  Speaker 2: The following year approved.
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  Speaker 3: A measure that offered more funding to schools that teach
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  Speaker 3: an optional Bible infused elementary school curriculum. That was twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty three. Now it is mandatory, and the state's Education
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  Speaker 3: code right now or even before this bill already required
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  Speaker 3: ca to twelve schools to teach religious literature, including the
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  Speaker 3: Hebrew scriptures, Old Testament and New Testament, and its impact
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  Speaker 3: on history and literature. And man, do I have some
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  Speaker 3: stuff to say about you? And this is really fun stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a big question to ask you for
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  Speaker 3: those of you that espouse teaching religion and particularly Christianity
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  Speaker 3: in the public schools, and supporters of this new curriculum
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  Speaker 3: argue Christian texts should be inseparable from from lessons on
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  Speaker 3: the nation's founding.
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  Speaker 2: So let me throw something at you.
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  Speaker 3: There was one of the people citizens for education reform
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  Speaker 3: at the school board meeting. We don't have to incorporate
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  Speaker 3: every religious belief in the history or literary works. Because
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  Speaker 3: our nation was founded on Judeo Christian values. That was
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  Speaker 3: the president of this Christian parent advocacy group. Okay, our
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  Speaker 3: nation was founded on Judeo Christian values. Actually it wasn't. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: our nation was founded on democracy. It was the vote
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  Speaker 3: of the people control the government. We are governed by
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  Speaker 3: the people, not by religious concepts at all. The word
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  Speaker 3: God does not appear in the Constitution. And for those
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  Speaker 3: people that argue, we'll look at the Declaration of Independence
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  Speaker 3: where they talk about the word God. The Declaration of
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  Speaker 3: Independence has zero influence on the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: Zero.
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  Speaker 3: And they argue, well, look at the founding fathers and
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  Speaker 3: their signatures in the year of our Lord seventeen seventy six.
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  Speaker 3: Prove positive not only that we believe in God, but
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  Speaker 3: we believe in the Judeo Christian concepts. Okay, back to
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  Speaker 3: the Old Testament, even the New Testament. Where's democracy anywhere?
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  Speaker 3: Is this slavery that governments had? Didn't Jesus say, we
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  Speaker 3: follow the rules of the of the government.
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  Speaker 1: We live I would suggest you step on different ground
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  Speaker 1: because if you want, if you want me to actually
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  Speaker 1: answer those questions, I can.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it would take forever, Neil, it would take I know,
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  Speaker 2: it would take forever. It would.
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  Speaker 3: But you're saying that the word democracy and the concept
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  Speaker 3: of democracy appears in the Old Testament.
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  Speaker 2: In the New Testament.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was one of the main fights of
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  Speaker 1: Christ was the the to go against the theocracy at
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So where does I understand that? Now we're getting
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  Speaker 3: into minutia. But slavery, Uh, it was part and parcel
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  Speaker 3: of a new movement. They you know what, Neil, Neil,
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  Speaker 3: You and I always it, we always get into this.
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  Speaker 2: We always get into this, want.
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  Speaker 1: To get into what you call minutia because it's factual.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Understand slavery did not exist. I get it. Slavery was
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  Speaker 2: not part of it. I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Nowhere in the constitution it was the Brandbury Baptist Society. Neil,
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  Speaker 1: letter has nothing. It's not in the constitution.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So how a constitution says that the that the
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  Speaker 4: state cannot demand one religion, because that's what we were
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  Speaker 4: fighting against to leave the European rule of a one religion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we have to read the Constitution where it
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  Speaker 3: says the state that was probably one of the amendments
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  Speaker 3: where the state cannot abridge religion.
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  Speaker 2: Now it can't make it okay on religion. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: It's protect the church from the state, not the state
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  Speaker 1: from the church.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: This is where I get so upset with you when
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  Speaker 3: we go in no facts kind of get all, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I have no facts. I understand the word God appears
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  Speaker 3: in the Constitution, and I get it.
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  Speaker 1: What about the washing word prayer that is sided in
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  Speaker 1: places where he actually says to you, Where.
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  Speaker 3: In the Constitution is Washington's prayer? Explain that journey.
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  Speaker 1: The Constitution is the separation of church and state.
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  Speaker 3: It's a one of the amendments that the state cannot
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  Speaker 3: abridge religion.
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  Speaker 2: That's its separation.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's say to break Neil, Neil, Neil, We're
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  Speaker 3: not going to do this, Neil, we are not going
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  Speaker 3: to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so sorry that.
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  Speaker 3: Job. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Love could be so cruel.
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  Speaker 2: We're having a Neil and I are continuing on.
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  Speaker 3: That this religious argument, which it's I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: do two days of this and I've had discussions with
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  Speaker 3: Neil before and they have gone on for hours, literally hours. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so let me go back to what Texas has done
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  Speaker 3: and saying that Christianity must be taught in school as
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  Speaker 3: part of the curriculum. That not only well the Old Testament,
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  Speaker 3: which doesn't say much about Christianity except a word about
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  Speaker 3: the Messiah coming, and the New Testament where the Messiah
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  Speaker 3: has already arrived. And that's what's supposed to be taught. Now,
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  Speaker 3: it's go back to a little bit of history, which
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  Speaker 3: I really love. In Kansas, there was a school board
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  Speaker 3: in this past and by the way, the people of
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  Speaker 3: Kansas were fine. Local school board passed a law saying
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  Speaker 3: that the theory of evolution must be taught in the
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  Speaker 3: same way as the theory of creation. Is not even
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  Speaker 3: throwing up scientific evidence. And they say, no, there is
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  Speaker 3: no scientific evidence about evolution. It is merely a theory
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  Speaker 3: because it is the theory of evolution. And I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, You're absolutely right. It's only a theory.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the theory of gravity where when you get
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  Speaker 3: out of bed your head hits the ceiling, or the
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  Speaker 3: theory of flight. It's a theory so look up in
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  Speaker 3: the sky and the next time you see an airplane,
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  Speaker 3: you go, no, it's only a theory. There aren't actual airplanes.
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  Speaker 3: And that is the stupidity of this and the problem.
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  Speaker 3: It's not only stupidity, it's forcing Christianity onto students is
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  Speaker 3: very tough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't buy it. Now. Can the Bible be taught? Well?
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  Speaker 3: When I was in junior high, we did have a
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  Speaker 3: Bible class. Actually high school. It was an election, an elective,
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  Speaker 3: but it was a Bible. The Bible was studied as
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  Speaker 3: literature and its historical importance, not whether it is true
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  Speaker 3: or not, or belief systems didn't exist. That was not
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  Speaker 3: part of teaching. There was no Christianity that was pushed
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  Speaker 3: on anybody. It just look at the historical import of
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  Speaker 3: the Bible, which probably has more historical importance and influence
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  Speaker 3: than anything else that's ever been written, more in politics,
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  Speaker 3: more in interpretation of what the Bible is. And if
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  Speaker 3: you look at the wars, if you look at the Crusades,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the historical wars, what's happening right
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  Speaker 3: now between the Arab, the Muslim in those various countries
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  Speaker 3: and Jews, it's all based on the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: It's all based on what is.
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  Speaker 3: Believed, and so you can't you cannot ignore the Bible's
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  Speaker 3: importance in world literature, even as literature and world history.
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  Speaker 3: But pushing the theocracy that this is the word of God,
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  Speaker 3: that this is how we're going to teach. We are
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  Speaker 3: going to teach that Christianity is the word and certainly
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  Speaker 3: not Islam. That's not part of it, because that's not
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  Speaker 3: a real religion. Certainly not atheism or agnosticism. You can't
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  Speaker 3: teach that. It's only Christianity. They can be taught. And
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  Speaker 3: I am telling you, you know, coming from someone who
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  Speaker 3: is not particularly religious, who really does believe separation of
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  Speaker 3: church and state, truly, I have a huge problem with this,
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  Speaker 3: and this is going to be upheld. I guarantee you
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  Speaker 3: by a very conservative court under the guise of freedom
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  Speaker 3: of religion. In other words, you are free to believe
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  Speaker 3: in Christianity, which of course you are, and you will
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  Speaker 3: be allowed. This is the school districts in the state.
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  Speaker 3: You will be allowed to push Christianity to the exclusion
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  Speaker 3: of any other religion. There's no Buddhism, there's no Taoism,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing that's allowed except Christianity, and man, if you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that, I have absolutely no idea. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: now I'll tell you what else is really bad, and
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  Speaker 3: that is the magnitude and the number of hurricanes for example.
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  Speaker 3: In this case, this is a story out of USA
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  Speaker 3: today in which scientists are saying, when it comes to hurricanes, now,
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  Speaker 3: you can't control earthquakes. All you can do is try
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  Speaker 3: to get them as early as possible and tell people
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't control that, but you can control hurricanes.
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  Speaker 2: What is that? I mean, that's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 3: Because here is their solution using existing technology, and they're
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  Speaker 3: talking about cloud seeding, which in and of itself is
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  Speaker 3: fairly controversial. You see the clouds with the what chemical
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  Speaker 3: is it's iodide or whatever, and you supercharge this with
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  Speaker 3: data and analysis. What do we have well that we
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  Speaker 3: may be able to disrupt huge weather systems and protect
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  Speaker 3: densely populated areas. Now, the cloud seating is something where
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  Speaker 3: the airplanes go up in the sky and these crystals
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  Speaker 3: are throwing the clouds, and the theory is that rain
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  Speaker 3: water vapor forms around these crystals and it causes rain
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  Speaker 3: to fall.
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  Speaker 2: And even that's up in the air.
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  Speaker 3: No one really really don't know at this point, and
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  Speaker 3: the scientists are saying, this is a study. They just
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  Speaker 3: came out that small, carefully time cloud seating operations apply
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  Speaker 3: during the peak of an extreme weather event. For example,
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  Speaker 3: could have shifted the track of Superstorm Sandy in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twelve by three hundred miles to miss New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Could have raised the low.
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  Speaker 3: Temperature the twenty twenty one Texas freeze by eight degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Could have reduced.
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  Speaker 3: The amount of rain in the twenty twenty two atmospheric
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  Speaker 3: river that caused flooding in California by about five percent.
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  Speaker 3: Now that is fairly controversial, to say the least, but
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  Speaker 3: technology is doing some amazing things. What this proposes is
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  Speaker 3: using existing technology, not new technology, to make it all happen.
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  Speaker 3: And then the weird ones study authors what they do
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  Speaker 3: is use jiu jitsu as an analogy. The co author said,
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  Speaker 3: the basic principle of jiu jitsu is to achieve maximum
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  Speaker 3: efficiency with minimal effort, and it relies on the core
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  Speaker 3: philosophy that a smaller, weaker person can successfully defend themselves
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  Speaker 3: against a larger, stronger attacking using leverage, proper weight distribution,
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  Speaker 3: and momentum. How that connects to cloud CD and steering
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  Speaker 3: hurricanes away from large urban centers is beyond me. Cloud
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  Speaker 3: seating has been around for a long time and nine
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  Speaker 3: states actually are using it. Ten states have banded or
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  Speaker 3: considering banding cloud seating or weather modification any in general,
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  Speaker 3: which that I don't understand either, because if there's technology
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  Speaker 3: out there that can steer hurricanes away from major metropolitan areas,
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  Speaker 3: and then there's some ethical considerations if you do that
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  Speaker 3: and you steer it to where the hurricane would not hit.
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  Speaker 3: How about those poor people that now are going to
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  Speaker 3: be a victim of what you do? Scientifically? Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: you move a hurricane away from a major city and
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  Speaker 3: you move it over to a rural area where nobody
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  Speaker 3: has teeth, and all they do is they don't actually
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  Speaker 3: have money. They pay themselves with sides of bacon. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm making fun of those people, and I shouldn't. But
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  Speaker 3: the point I make is do you save eight million
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  Speaker 3: or ten million people and move a hurricane over to
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  Speaker 3: an area that has a population of thirty thousand, and
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  Speaker 3: that is it. It's silver eya died, by the way, is
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  Speaker 3: the chemical that's.
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  Speaker 2: Used, and so.
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  Speaker 3: Here is the issue, and that is number one, the
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  Speaker 3: ethical issue. And there's a religious aspect to this too,
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  Speaker 3: where people think that God is creating the hurricanes, and
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  Speaker 3: there are religious people that say that, and therefore we
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't mess with that. We should never mess with what
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  Speaker 3: God intended, which, by the way, is going to be
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  Speaker 3: our next topic. All right, I want to finish the
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  Speaker 3: show talking about gene human gene editing during the embryonic stage. Now,
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  Speaker 3: as I said, I had a bunch of stuff God
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  Speaker 3: very bad luck for these students. At the law school
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  Speaker 3: I went to, which is not a lot of it business,
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  Speaker 3: I taught a seminar in third party reproduction and it
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  Speaker 3: had to do with surrogacy and sperm donation, etc. And
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  Speaker 3: one of the car Yeah, I know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: believe I was a professor. One of the concepts that
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  Speaker 3: I talked about is gene editing because we knew the
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  Speaker 3: future was going to be there. I actually knew that
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  Speaker 3: we were going in that direction based on what I
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  Speaker 3: was doing. I also knew that there was going to
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  Speaker 3: be IVF as a major as a major medical issue, and.
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  Speaker 2: This was when I started a class.
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  Speaker 3: It was two years after the first IVF baby was
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  Speaker 3: even born, and so this was brand new stuff. So
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  Speaker 3: the class was a lot of science fiction what's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen in the future, which has all become science fact.
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  Speaker 2: And one of those facts is gene.
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  Speaker 3: Editing, the ability in the embryo stage to make someone. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what actually is happening, change genes.
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  Speaker 2: So African Americans.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get tase acts disease, or sickle cell anebia Jews
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  Speaker 3: don't get tas acts, and you can actually remove the
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  Speaker 3: predilection or even the gene and change it that causes
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  Speaker 3: those horrific diseases.
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  Speaker 2: That is there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're on the verge. But here's the ethical dilemma.
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  Speaker 3: This is a couple of studies that just came out,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, on DNA editing of human embryos, one
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  Speaker 3: out of England, a couple out of the US at
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  Speaker 3: Columbia University, for example, there's a gene editing that lowers
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  Speaker 3: bad cholesterol. Another one that is you to treat sickle
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  Speaker 3: cell anemia anemia anema. As I said that disease. But
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  Speaker 3: here is the ethical dilemma which everybody in this industry
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  Speaker 3: talks about, and that is the ability to remove diseases,
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  Speaker 3: which everybody thinks is great. I mean, who's going to
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  Speaker 3: say no to that? That same technology can make a
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  Speaker 3: kid smarter, taller, heavier, have blonde hair, blue eyes. You
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  Speaker 3: imagine if Hitler had this technology. That is boy, there's
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  Speaker 3: an ethical dilemma where in the em embryonic stage you
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  Speaker 3: can make your kid have an advantage. So people that
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  Speaker 3: have money, their kids have advantages anyway. They have better nutrition,
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  Speaker 3: they have better education, they have more opportunities, which they
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  Speaker 3: do as a matter of just the way we live.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine using science, and we're there, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: using science to give your kids even more an advantage.
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  Speaker 2: That is here too.
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  Speaker 3: And boy, you talk about an ethical dilemma that medicine
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  Speaker 3: has to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: I can't hear you. Now go out?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Okay did he have me up? Now?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're up.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. What about the fact that factoring cost only rich
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: people are going to be able to do this?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's correct.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Also, same thing with IVF. It just keeps on going.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: The rich do better. The rich always have advantages. Now
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: we've reached a new level of advantages where a kid
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: is going to be able to run faster. Great for
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: a Little League, Uh be bigger, great for Pop Warner Football.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Just it's such an ethical dilemma, and I remember we
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: dealt with it, by the way.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: That was also during the course.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Remember I told you that I was stoned on cocaine
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: when I took the bar and I went into a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: drug rehab. Well, between the bar and drug rehab, I
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: taught this class. So I was stoned out of my
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: gorge on cocaine while I was teaching. Let me tell you,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: going into the bathroom every half hour to store cocaine
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: really got in the way of the class. And I
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: was a lot of sniffing during the course. That's a
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: different story on its own, but it was. I love
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: doing it. I love doing that class. Okay, we're done,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: guys coming up, it's Gary and Shannon. We're back again tomorrow.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: The whole crew is back. Will is back, and Neil
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: is back because God intended Neil to come back. Amy's yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: damn right, Amy and Kono and Ann We're all back here,
• 23:29
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• 23:31
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