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164. Bob Abbate, AKA Dad · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Look in the mirror. Are you happy with what you see?
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Speaker 1: If not, find a dream, figure out how to give
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Speaker 1: it some wings and make it real. Your audience is
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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, Emily and Badi here you are listening to
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Speaker 3: episode one sixty four of Hurdle a While, this focused
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Speaker 3: podcast where I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk
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Speaker 3: about big wines, top moments, and everything in between. On
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Speaker 3: the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, and candid discussions
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Speaker 3: with everyone from top athletes and CEOs to aspiring entrepreneurs
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Speaker 3: on what it really takes to follow your passions.
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Speaker 4: My mission is simple to.
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Speaker 3: Inspire you to be your best self, move with intention,
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Speaker 3: and have some fun along the way. Today I am
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Speaker 3: talking to the One, the Only Bob a body AGAA,
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Speaker 3: my dad, and bringing my dad on the show in
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Speaker 3: honor of Father's Day yesterday.
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Speaker 4: You know, it was really special for me to interview
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Speaker 4: my mom a few.
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Speaker 3: Weeks back, and so I felt like it was only
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Speaker 3: appropriate to get Dad behind the mic. We talk about
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Speaker 3: everything from his proudest and scariest moments as a father
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Speaker 3: to his best advice for me as I continue to
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Speaker 3: grow my business. And it's cool because you really get
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Speaker 3: some insight into where I got this entrepreneurial bug from
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Speaker 3: my dad, Aside from being my best friend, has been
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Speaker 3: one himself since college, an entrepreneur when he opened up
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Speaker 3: his first audio equipment store and then after that multiple
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Speaker 3: marketing agencies. I am so grateful for him in my life,
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Speaker 3: and I know that for some Father's Day and Mother's
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Speaker 3: Day can be definitely difficult time. So I am happy
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Speaker 3: to share him and his wisdom and his insights and
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Speaker 3: his humor although it might be oh such Dad humor
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Speaker 3: at times. I'm so happy to share him with you,
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Speaker 3: and thank you for allowing me.
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Speaker 4: To before we get into it today.
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Speaker 3: Last week I announced the newest pick for the Hurdle
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Speaker 3: Book Club, and that is Green Lights by Matthew McConaughey.
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Speaker 3: I'm putting a link to buy the book in the
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Speaker 3: show notes, but we are going to be meeting and
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Speaker 3: we're going to chat about it on again July nineteenth.
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Speaker 3: let's it's a hurdling.
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Speaker 4: Today.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with Bob a Body better known to
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Speaker 3: my followers as Bam Bam Bob, better known to me
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Speaker 3: as Dad.
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Speaker 2: Hey Dad, I like Dad the best.
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Speaker 1: I am thanks for having me today. Happy Father's Day.
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Speaker 4: Happy Father's Day.
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Speaker 3: So this episode is coming out on the day after
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Speaker 3: Father's Day, on Monday, Father's Day, Monday. I felt that
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Speaker 3: it was only appropriate that you finally make your debut
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Speaker 3: on the show. The show has been thriving for over
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Speaker 3: three years now, and it's hard to believe that the
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Speaker 3: Hurdlers have not had a proper Bob a Body appearance.
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Speaker 1: How did we let this happen? I mean we've had
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Speaker 1: some shared experiences on Pizza Friday videos and things like that,
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Speaker 1: but never on the actual Hurdle podcast.
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Speaker 4: Well, here we are on Hurdle. How are you doing today?
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Speaker 1: Bob doing good? Emily? How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well, getting back into the swing of
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Speaker 3: things after this little trip to Miami. I prepped my
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Speaker 3: voice for this conversation because it was a little harsh.
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Speaker 4: I bought a vocal humidifier.
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Speaker 1: How's that working have for you? You know?
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Speaker 3: So it says that you're supposed to use it for
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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes at a time. Breathing in like to a
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Speaker 3: humidifier on your face for fifteen minutes is an aggressive proposition.
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Speaker 3: I think I did it for like about eight but
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Speaker 3: it felt good. My voice feels better.
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Speaker 1: Good, your voice sounds good today.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Dad, You're welcome.
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Speaker 3: So, I mean, there are so many different jumping off
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Speaker 3: points that we could leap from here. But I think
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Speaker 3: what I learned from interviewing Mom was that I wanted
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Speaker 3: to have more of a structure and some specific questions
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Speaker 3: to ask you, rather than to just a la hurdle.
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Speaker 3: Have you walk me through and us through your entire
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Speaker 3: life story. But I'd be remiss we didn't kind of
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Speaker 3: start there a little bit. So do you have an
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Speaker 3: earliest memory of growing up?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember family vacations that Grandma and
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Speaker 1: Grandpa and me and my sister, your aunt Judy would
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Speaker 1: take and every summer we would do a two week
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Speaker 1: vacation somewhere. In some cases it was on the east
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Speaker 1: end of Long Island in the Amptons, and in other
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Speaker 1: cases it was up in the mountains, which would be
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Speaker 1: the Poconos or the Catskills, and we would go away
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Speaker 1: with friends, you know, the adults and the kids and
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Speaker 1: have just a really really great time.
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Speaker 3: You and your sister and Judy, you guys were close
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Speaker 3: growing up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, we were best buds.
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Speaker 4: What did you when you had a spoiler alert?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've talked about my family, which consists of
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Speaker 3: my father, my mother, and my brother before on the show.
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Speaker 3: But when you had two children and they were a
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Speaker 3: son and a daughter, did you have hopes that Matt
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Speaker 3: and I would be just as close as you and
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Speaker 3: your sister.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean I think having you know, having a
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Speaker 1: boy and a girl, or a girl and a boy,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, the icing on the cake.
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Speaker 1: You want to have one to beach or most people,
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Speaker 1: I think want to have one to beach. And you
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Speaker 1: know we scored. Yeah, we got two great ones.
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Speaker 4: Two great ones.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so you remember traveling with your family growing up,
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Speaker 3: and then fast forward a bit. I'm not going to
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Speaker 3: bring us through the you know, the complete history of
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Speaker 3: Bob Boddy's childhood, but you ultimately, many years later, eighteen
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Speaker 3: years later, decide to go to Sunny Oswego.
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Speaker 4: And what do you study at Sunny Oswego?
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Speaker 1: Cold weather survival, studied business and marketing at Sunny Suego.
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Speaker 3: And when you were at Sunny what did you go
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Speaker 3: to college thinking that you wanted to do?
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Speaker 1: I always had this entrepreneurial bug in me. You know,
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Speaker 1: I watched Grandpa start businesses, and I watched Grandma as
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Speaker 1: a professional woman and was exposed to a lot of
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Speaker 1: the garment industry. So I kind of thought about going
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Speaker 1: into that, but ultimately I gravitated to what my kind
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Speaker 1: of my hobby and my interests were, which was kind
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Speaker 1: of audio and video. And while I was in college,
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Speaker 1: I was working in an audio video store on Long
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Speaker 1: Island and then in New York City. And when I
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Speaker 1: got out of school, and even when I was in school,
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Speaker 1: I wrote a term paper on how I would do
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Speaker 1: a retail audio video kind of a consumer electronics business,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately, after graduating, I was able to make that
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Speaker 1: really happen.
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Speaker 3: A couple of things to make note of here. First
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Speaker 3: of all, Suniasigo reference of cold weather survival. This university
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Speaker 3: was in northern.
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Speaker 2: Upstate New York on Lake Ontario.
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Speaker 3: And secondly, my question to follow up with that about
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Speaker 3: starting a consumer electronics business is when you began that business,
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Speaker 3: how did you even know how to source this to
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Speaker 3: sell to consumers.
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Speaker 1: I learned how to do that by working for someone else.
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Speaker 1: I had two friends who were also in the business.
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Speaker 1: We were working for a company that had three stores.
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Speaker 1: We were the three managers, and we got together one day,
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Speaker 1: as we often did after work, to grab a bite
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Speaker 1: to eat at the diner, and said, hey, we should
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Speaker 1: do this for ourselves. Why don't we meet back here
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Speaker 1: or any about a year, save X dollars and we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about starting the business. So we did that. We
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Speaker 1: each saved and scrimped and borrowed and stole and whatever
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Speaker 1: we had to do to raise the money, and then
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Speaker 1: we started our own business. So we to circle back
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Speaker 1: to your question, we learned how to do that by
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Speaker 1: doing it for someone else and watching others do it,
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Speaker 1: and we learned from some pretty smart guys.
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Speaker 3: All right, So then, I mean you saved up money,
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Speaker 3: you learned a lot from your past experiences, you started
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Speaker 3: your own store, which was called Sounds Alive. In this process,
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Speaker 3: did you find that you liked being an entrepreneur as
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Speaker 3: much as you thought that you would.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really dug it, you know. I got to
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Speaker 1: do a lot of things in that business that I
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Speaker 1: always wanted to do, and some of that, you know,
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Speaker 1: besides being surrounded by really really cool audio and video equipment.
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Speaker 1: Each of the partners had a role. My role was advertising,
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Speaker 1: so it was my job to get people in and
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Speaker 1: so I learned how to place media buys, how to
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Speaker 1: negotiate with radio stations. Back then, newspapers there was no Google.
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Speaker 1: So it really gave me a good firm foundation in
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Speaker 1: what I needed to know. And then eventually, I'll do
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Speaker 1: the transition for you. Eventually I got out of that
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Speaker 1: business and started an agency, not this one, but another one,
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Speaker 1: and applied the skills that I learned in retail in
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Speaker 1: New York City to that advertising agency.
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Speaker 3: Did you like being a little more removed from what
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Speaker 3: I would say to be like customer facing sales and
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Speaker 3: being a little bit more like in the desk office environment.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. To this day, I miss the
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Speaker 1: retail part of it. You know, there's a big difference
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Speaker 1: in what I do now. And for those who don't know,
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Speaker 1: I run an advertising agency called BAM. Those who don't know,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of you do know. So where was
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Speaker 1: I going?
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Speaker 4: For those that don't know, you run a marketing agency
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Speaker 4: today called BAM.
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Speaker 1: So today I run an advertising agency. And in this business,
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Speaker 1: my team has to go out and solicit business. For
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Speaker 1: the most part, there is some inbound, but most of
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Speaker 1: it is outbound. We get the conversation started and kind
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Speaker 1: of sell it through with great content. In retail, customers
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Speaker 1: come to you, they walk into your store, they come
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Speaker 1: in to see you. And to this day I missed that.
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Speaker 1: It's no surprise that some of our clients, some of
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Speaker 1: our good clients, are retailers, and the skills that I
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Speaker 1: picked up as a retailer come in handy now, especially
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Speaker 1: when relating to those clients and having intelligent conversations about
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Speaker 1: what it takes to run a good retail operation.
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Speaker 4: Because you're such a social person.
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Speaker 3: Very different pivot here for a moment, but I would
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Speaker 3: imagine that the past year. If you I mean if
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Speaker 3: you're saying that you missed working in retail and having
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to engage directly with the consumer. I would
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Speaker 3: imagine that the past year pivoting from being in office
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Speaker 3: and then working from home and like really missing out
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Speaker 3: on that person a person interaction was true con for
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Speaker 3: the business and for you.
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Speaker 1: You know, for It's interesting how the dynamics worked during
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Speaker 1: COVID that we have some clients who like shut down
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Speaker 1: and our communication with them was one hundred percent virtual.
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Speaker 1: And we have other clients that said, you know, they
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Speaker 1: kind of shared our view that you know, let's continue
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Speaker 1: to get together and be careful and do those agency
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Speaker 1: client meetings and and move and keep moving forward. God
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Speaker 1: bless them. These are clients that said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: we have sales quotas that we have to meet, and
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Speaker 1: just because there's a virus out there, it doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that we don't have to hit them. So I really
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Speaker 1: admire those clients and respect and appreciate the fact that
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Speaker 1: they found ways to do business through the pandemic, not
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Speaker 1: only with us, but with their customers and in the
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Speaker 1: retail environment. It was tough to do. But the clients
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Speaker 1: that I'm thinking of were deemed as essential businesses, and
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Speaker 1: therefore we worked with them to find ways to keep
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Speaker 1: doing business.
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Speaker 4: Did you have a mentor growing up?
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Speaker 1: I have lots of mentors growing up. My father, certainly,
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Speaker 1: my mother and my father were my biggest influences and
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Speaker 1: my biggest mentors. They taught me not only personally how
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Speaker 1: to be a good man and a great father, but
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Speaker 1: he taught me a lot about business and about the economy,
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Speaker 1: and about I don't know politics, what's right and wrong,
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Speaker 1: and how to do good?
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Speaker 4: How to do good? Would you say that when you
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Speaker 4: think about the lessons that your parents instilled in you,
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Speaker 4: that do good would probably be one of the biggest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Grandpa's thing, do good. And my dad
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Speaker 1: he was a woodworker as a hobby and then professionally,
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Speaker 1: and the way he worked with wood was a life
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Speaker 1: lesson that you started with great raw materials, and you
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Speaker 1: measured twice and cut once, and you never skipped the
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Speaker 1: prep step and you took the time to apply the
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Speaker 1: finish the right way. So you know, that's inspiring and
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Speaker 1: has always served as a model for me in life.
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Speaker 4: It's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about how awesome it would have
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Speaker 3: been for him to like, come and see where I
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Speaker 3: live now. I've never really thought about that before, but
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Speaker 3: just this idea. I mean, how different was life when
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Speaker 3: Grandpa was alive?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 4: Like, life for all of us was just in such
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Speaker 4: a different place.
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Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was a very different place. It's
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Speaker 1: interesting that you live in Brooklyn now, and Grandma and
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Speaker 1: Grandpa grew up in Brooklyn. And I was fortunate to
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Speaker 1: be able to get the two of them in the
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Speaker 1: car and do this kind of back to Brooklyn tour
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Speaker 1: I guess about I don't know, thirteen years ago and
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Speaker 1: go around Brooklyn and see the place where they met
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Speaker 1: and the house that they grew up in that each
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Speaker 1: of them grew up in, and where the family kind
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Speaker 1: of the family was based out of. If Dad was
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Speaker 1: around today, he'd get a real kick out of scene
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Speaker 1: where you live. I know your grandmother is dying to
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Speaker 1: get there.
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Speaker 3: She was the one who was like, are you near Bam?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, Grandma knows my neighborhood better
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Speaker 3: than I do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she knows Brooklyn very well.
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Speaker 3: Well, we have to go on this back to Brooklyn
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Speaker 3: tour so that I can figure out where all of
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Speaker 3: the roots are. I remember once Grandma and I did
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Speaker 3: come into Brooklyn and did some of that, but I
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Speaker 3: think I was a little too young to truly appreciate
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Speaker 3: where we were and now that I know much more
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Speaker 3: about out the area, although we'll be investigating it for
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Speaker 3: many many years to come, it would be like the
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Speaker 3: best thing to do again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be a real kick.
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Speaker 3: We'll do it, We'll do it. Okay, So back to
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Speaker 3: you and your story a little bit. So you mentioned
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Speaker 3: starting your own agency previous to BAM. Now what happened
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Speaker 3: in between starting that agency and where you ended up
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Speaker 3: in your career at this point?
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Speaker 1: Okay, the roadmap was we had that agency. It was
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Speaker 1: named Media Concepts, and we were an agency for small businesses.
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Speaker 1: Mostly did a lot of media work. We bought a
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Speaker 1: lot of TV and radio and cable and newspapers and
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Speaker 1: magazines and things like that. One of the guys who
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Speaker 1: I respected a lot that was running radio stations kept
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Speaker 1: making a run at me to come work for that company,
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Speaker 1: and eventually the numbers made sense, so I sold that
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Speaker 1: company and went to work for a company that owned
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Speaker 1: radio stations. Wound up running radio stations for seven years.
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Speaker 1: During that seven year years, I got bought bought and
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Speaker 1: sold about five times, and at a certain point, you know,
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Speaker 1: you feel like a commodity. And I also missed being
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, so I started Baba Body Marketing. Wow, it
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Speaker 1: was a long time ago, twenty three years ago. I think.
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Speaker 3: Wow, Well, as you said, you got your entrepreneurial interests
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Speaker 3: from your parent, what would what would you say early
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Speaker 3: on was something you didn't expect about being an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think if you own the company, at
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Speaker 1: least my philosophy is, you know, in an agency, you
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Speaker 1: have clients and you do work for them. But in
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Speaker 1: addition to all those wonderful clients that the agency has,
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Speaker 1: I have five clients. I have myself and the people
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Speaker 1: who work for me. And as an agency owner, I
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Speaker 1: feel that I'm responsible for their mortgages and they're putting
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Speaker 1: their kids through school and providing health insurance for them
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Speaker 1: and security. And you know, that was a real challenge
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Speaker 1: last year that there were many many sleepless nights when
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Speaker 1: we figured tried. I tried to figure out, you know,
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Speaker 1: how we're going to make it through the next day.
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Speaker 1: But what I didn't expect is how tired I am
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Speaker 1: to my staff and to our family. We called them
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Speaker 1: the Bamily, the Bammers, and the family is truly a family.
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Speaker 1: During COVID it was rough. I had many sleepless nights
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Speaker 1: worrying about how we're going to keep the company together
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Speaker 1: and kind of keep the band together. And we did it.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're here. We are a year and change later,
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Speaker 1: and we're still standing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a testament again to your upbringing
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Speaker 3: rate and to who you are. I am sure, having
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Speaker 3: unfortunately dealt with some and I'm sure that you have
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Speaker 3: as well, that not every single entrepreneur is going to
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Speaker 3: come at their business with the same amount of compassion
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Speaker 3: and thought and care. Some people, you know, attack business
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Speaker 3: with a more removed point of view.
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Speaker 4: And I although know that sometimes you have to do that.
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Speaker 3: I when it comes to people and relationships, that's not
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Speaker 3: in my wheelhouse.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think you probably understand as I
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Speaker 1: do that when you are an entrepreneur and you own
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Speaker 1: a company, your name, whether your name is in the
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Speaker 1: name of the company or not, your name is quote
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Speaker 1: unquote on the door, and the product that you turn
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Speaker 1: out reflects on you. Hurdle is an incredible product and
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Speaker 1: you you are you should be proud of what you're
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Speaker 1: putting out there. And I feel the same way about
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Speaker 1: the work that my agency does for our clients that
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Speaker 1: if it's not great work, we're not We're not letting
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Speaker 1: it out, we're not sending it to the media, We're
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Speaker 1: not going to share it with the client. We make
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Speaker 1: sure we do great work. Just like Grandpa was. He
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Speaker 1: would never put a product out that didn't have a
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Speaker 1: flawless fin on it. We're not turning out content here
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Speaker 1: that isn't isn't buffed and shined up and ready for
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Speaker 1: prime time prime time.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So you transitioned into starting your own media company,
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Speaker 3: and at this time you said, twenty three years ago,
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Speaker 3: I'm thirty three.
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Speaker 4: I was ten years old.
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Speaker 3: Talk to me about what it was like to have
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Speaker 3: a ten year old daughter and a fourteen year old
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Speaker 3: son while starting your arguably hope to be forever big business.
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Speaker 1: Listen, there were many many times that Mom and I
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Speaker 1: looked at each other and I would and we would say,
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Speaker 1: are you epping crazy? You have what? You have? No clients?
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Speaker 1: You know, I have a couple of clients I brought
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Speaker 1: with me from radio. But it was a real crapshoot.
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Speaker 1: You know, you just kind of roll in the dice
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Speaker 1: and see what happens. I mean, I had a background
19:52
Speaker 1: in marketing. I ran another agency, but I wanted to
19:55
Speaker 1: do something bigger and better. I wanted to do something
19:57
Speaker 1: that was more than just me at a desk. So
20:00
Speaker 1: it was it was wild, man, it was. But if
20:03
Speaker 1: you don't roll the dice, you never know. You know,
20:05
Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur means failing sometime. And that was okay
20:09
Speaker 1: with me. I don't know if it was okay with Mom,
20:12
Speaker 1: but it was okay with me, and if I failed,
20:14
Speaker 1: I would do something else. I knew I had skills
20:16
Speaker 1: that were kind of portable. I was getting calls from
20:19
Speaker 1: other people who wanted me to come work for them
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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that.
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Speaker 3: When I started freelancing, I thought to myself, well, if
20:30
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20:33
Speaker 3: going to start like working the front desk at.
20:36
Speaker 4: Some sort of a fitness studio and it'll be fine.
20:39
Speaker 3: And at this time, this is like at the very beginning,
20:41
Speaker 3: and both I believe, actually both you and Mom said
20:46
Speaker 3: to me, well, if you want to come live back
20:48
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20:50
Speaker 4: I was like, this is not this is a non option,
20:53
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20:54
Speaker 3: I will work sixteen jobs before I packed my stuff
20:57
Speaker 3: up and move back to get like I wasn't moving
21:01
Speaker 3: back in. But to your story here, what's interesting to
21:06
Speaker 3: me is that I was a freelance writer when I
21:10
Speaker 3: started Hurdle and didn't rely at that point or even
21:14
Speaker 3: think at that point that Hurdle would become some sort
21:18
Speaker 3: of a viable way to sustain my life and like
21:22
Speaker 3: a career to the extent that it is now. When
21:25
Speaker 3: you went on your own, like you weren't side hustling,
21:28
Speaker 3: bob body marketing, like you just kind of jumped in.
21:32
Speaker 4: So from my POV, that is just it's hell of scary.
21:38
Speaker 1: Well, you know we jumped into the deep end too,
21:42
Speaker 1: so you know there was no life jacket and little
21:45
Speaker 1: floaties on our arms. So yeah, I mean, if you
21:48
Speaker 1: haven't do it, do it, you know, just just jump
21:51
Speaker 1: in and there was no safety net. But I think
21:56
Speaker 1: you know you hearing mom and I say, well, you
22:00
Speaker 1: could always move back home. Is a motivational tool, isn't it.
22:04
Speaker 1: And not having a paycheck every week being cut by
22:08
Speaker 1: someone else is a motivational tool. Isn't it. It's the
22:11
Speaker 1: same thing.
22:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Okay.
22:15
Speaker 3: At this point, I wanted to be a journalist, and
22:18
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22:21
Speaker 3: major in political science. What did you envision would be
22:25
Speaker 3: like where I was going at that point?
22:28
Speaker 1: I just wanted I always wanted you and your brother
22:30
Speaker 1: to do what you wanted to do, not what would
22:32
Speaker 1: provide the highest income or anything else. And when you
22:36
Speaker 1: were in middle school, you wanted to live in Manhattan
22:40
Speaker 1: and work for a magazine. So what do you do?
22:44
Speaker 1: You went to college. First of all, in high school
22:47
Speaker 1: you were writing for a yearbook in newspaper. In college,
22:50
Speaker 1: you were writing for the newspaper. And then you started
22:54
Speaker 1: interning and you got out of college and you found
22:57
Speaker 1: a way to live in Manhattan, right for a magazine. Yeah,
23:01
Speaker 1: that's that's all I ever wanted for you. Yeah, you know,
23:04
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23:06
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23:13
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23:16
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23:20
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Speaker 3: that you and I are, like, you're my best friend, right,
26:00
Speaker 3: I hit you up when I'm doing everything from like
26:05
Speaker 3: negotiating contract to ineborated with one of my best friends
26:09
Speaker 3: in a hotel in Spain. And when do you think
26:14
Speaker 3: that was a fun call? When let's just say this
26:19
Speaker 3: about that call. I could have called anyone ineborated in
26:23
Speaker 3: Spain at eleven pm, but instead I chose to be
26:26
Speaker 3: at the hotel bar, not gallivanting around Spain, but just
26:30
Speaker 3: at the hotel bar calling my dad.
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Speaker 1: I remember, I was in bed. I remember everything about
26:37
Speaker 1: that moment. Who was that Emily. She's totally inebriated and
26:43
Speaker 1: he's on the other side of the ocean. Oh okay, good.
26:45
Speaker 4: Night, Okay, cool.
26:48
Speaker 3: Well when do you think that When do you think
26:51
Speaker 3: our relationship evolved from like the just father daughter stuff
26:56
Speaker 3: to like being more friends.
27:00
Speaker 1: I think part of that is the adult child thing
27:01
Speaker 1: that transitions to the adult ault adult thing, adult adult thing.
27:06
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, we look back at let's look,
27:09
Speaker 1: you know, I keep going back to last year because
27:10
Speaker 1: it was such a pivotal hurdle that we all had
27:12
Speaker 1: to get over. And I don't think there were too
27:16
Speaker 1: many days that we didn't talk multiple times, and it
27:20
Speaker 1: wasn't me. A part of it is always the parental thing,
27:24
Speaker 1: where you know, I just sent you one hundred and
27:26
Speaker 1: fifty masks and six gallons of hand sanitizer and I
27:30
Speaker 1: scored some Lysol wipes at Costco, so ups those to you.
27:34
Speaker 1: But part of it is just you know, us relating
27:36
Speaker 1: as friends. And I think it was kind of reinforced
27:39
Speaker 1: last year, but it's something that's kind of grown senior
27:43
Speaker 1: year high school or when you were away a college.
27:46
Speaker 3: I think also, especially as I started to make bigger
27:51
Speaker 3: decisions in my career, it had to get to a
27:55
Speaker 3: point where it couldn't just be surface level shit, right,
28:00
Speaker 3: Like I needed your real opinion on things like numbers
28:03
Speaker 3: and changing opportunities and sometimes in life. And this is
28:08
Speaker 3: where I think you find the best relationships, whether it's
28:10
Speaker 3: with your family or with your friends.
28:12
Speaker 4: Really you need someone just to give it to you straight.
28:16
Speaker 3: And I'm very lucky that I found that opportunity within
28:20
Speaker 3: both of my parents.
28:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm kind of non judgmental to a
28:25
Speaker 1: certain extent. I think it's would be handy for every
28:27
Speaker 1: kid to have a dad who's a business and business
28:30
Speaker 1: guy in the marketing.
28:31
Speaker 4: Guy, you know, or anything.
28:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can talk content creation and you know,
28:38
Speaker 1: and tax strategies and shit like that.
28:41
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Dad is also sitting at his computer with a
28:44
Speaker 3: ring light that if I release any of this video footage,
28:46
Speaker 3: you'll see just a hint of the glare of it.
28:48
Speaker 3: So I moved to New York. Do you have any
28:52
Speaker 3: What are your worries about that?
28:54
Speaker 1: For me, nothing, just wondering we're going to move back
28:57
Speaker 1: to Connecticut.
28:59
Speaker 3: Dad is anxious, waiting for the moment where I tell
29:01
Speaker 3: him that I'm going to stop spending the exorbitant amount
29:03
Speaker 3: of money I spend to rent a home in Brooklyn
29:06
Speaker 3: and move back to Connecticut and invest that in a home.
29:09
Speaker 1: Financially, this is just like the worst thing, you know,
29:12
Speaker 1: you need to invest in a home. Just think of that,
29:16
Speaker 1: that that mortgage interest deduction you're missing. So I understand
29:20
Speaker 1: why you're in why you're in the city. I'm totally
29:22
Speaker 1: psyched about this new apartment. It's beautiful. I love the
29:25
Speaker 1: location and wish you nothing but happiness.
29:28
Speaker 4: There, Thank you so much. But when I first.
29:30
Speaker 1: Move come the back home, held back home to Connecticut.
29:33
Speaker 3: Come on, when I first moved in though you didn't
29:37
Speaker 3: have any qualms or hesitations about my choice.
29:41
Speaker 1: No, No, if I did, I wouldn't have helped you
29:45
Speaker 1: move all those times. Facts understand something. You were moving
29:48
Speaker 1: into Manhattan and your brother was in law enforcement.
29:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did I lose?
29:56
Speaker 1: Sleepover?
29:58
Speaker 3: I want to say it was like me be twenty
30:01
Speaker 3: sixteen when I got mugged on the other east side.
30:07
Speaker 3: What does a parent even think about when their kid
30:09
Speaker 3: calls them and tells them.
30:10
Speaker 1: That getting in the car and driving to help you. Yeah,
30:15
Speaker 1: you know, you got mugged and you were worried about you,
30:17
Speaker 1: but also you were worried about calming me down. I
30:19
Speaker 1: guess mom down too, So you were you made the
30:23
Speaker 1: best of a bad situation, and you know I kind
30:26
Speaker 1: of felt that, Okay, now we got that out of
30:29
Speaker 1: our system. That will be safe.
30:31
Speaker 4: Now we'll be safe.
30:32
Speaker 3: Hopefully nothing like that is going to happen to us
30:35
Speaker 3: all Again. I'm wanting to bring this back to some
30:37
Speaker 3: of the questions that I had prepared for you, sir,
30:39
Speaker 3: What would you say has been one of the best
30:43
Speaker 3: lessons that you have learned as a father.
30:49
Speaker 1: When you become a father, you leave the hospital, they
30:52
Speaker 1: hand you a baby, They don't hand you an owner's
30:55
Speaker 1: manual or an instruction book. You just have to go
30:58
Speaker 1: home and figure shit out. And you learn lots of lessons.
31:02
Speaker 1: You learn how nothing that happened before matters. It's all
31:07
Speaker 1: a clean start, and all of a sudden, you have
31:09
Speaker 1: this little being that is totally reliant on you for everything.
31:15
Speaker 1: So the lesson is stuff doesn't matter. Things that were
31:22
Speaker 1: important to you before don't matter. They may matter, but
31:26
Speaker 1: they're way way way down the list compared to taking
31:29
Speaker 1: care of this new life.
31:32
Speaker 3: What would you say is one of the biggest lessons
31:36
Speaker 3: that I have taught you, not general children, not your children.
31:41
Speaker 4: Me, Emily, one of.
31:45
Speaker 1: The things, one of the things that you taught me
31:46
Speaker 1: and you continue to teach me, and you will continue
31:48
Speaker 1: to teach me, is how to be a good podcaster.
31:51
Speaker 1: Because it's true. We have a podcast coming up here
31:53
Speaker 1: at BAM starting starting this fall.
31:55
Speaker 3: I think, look at Dad using Hurdle as a promo
31:58
Speaker 3: tool for his own.
32:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe I'll announce the name of the podcast
32:03
Speaker 1: on Hurdle. Wow, not today, We're not ready. So this
32:08
Speaker 1: is a tease. So podcasting one O one from Emily Abody.
32:12
Speaker 1: I've been through the tutorial. I've been presented with the PowerPoint.
32:18
Speaker 4: That's true.
32:19
Speaker 1: You're providing us with some really, really good tools to
32:21
Speaker 1: be successful.
32:23
Speaker 4: Thanks dad.
32:24
Speaker 3: Okay, what has been one of your proudest moments as
32:28
Speaker 3: my dad.
32:30
Speaker 1: As your dad as a dad? Watching you and your
32:35
Speaker 1: brother graduate from Yukon was really really a proud moment.
32:39
Speaker 1: You know, in our family, I was the first college graduate,
32:43
Speaker 1: so we always want something bigger and better for our kids.
32:47
Speaker 1: You know, every generation better than the one before, and
32:49
Speaker 1: that was that was huge. You know. I have the
32:53
Speaker 1: ability here to reflect back and think about some of
32:57
Speaker 1: the things that Mom said when you interviewed her, and
32:59
Speaker 1: I think she mentioned something called the Barnum Festival, which
33:03
Speaker 1: is a regional festival here in the Greater Bridgeport area
33:05
Speaker 1: in Connecticut that celebrates the heritage and the traditions of Pt. Barnum.
33:09
Speaker 1: And Emily was in the what they call the royal family,
33:14
Speaker 1: and in that role, I wild view about eleven eleven
33:19
Speaker 1: years old, had to get up in front of hundreds
33:21
Speaker 1: of people and you know, kind of talk to them
33:23
Speaker 1: and address them and talk to them about the festival,
33:26
Speaker 1: and not only did that eloquently, but did it in
33:29
Speaker 1: two languages at eleven years old, So that was a
33:32
Speaker 1: that was a big That was a big deal.
33:34
Speaker 3: Wow tbt. Yeah, public speaking from a young age, How
33:38
Speaker 3: do you think people describe you.
33:43
Speaker 1: Professionally hardworking, creative, focused? Oh, someone would disagree with that,
33:50
Speaker 1: but driven to succeed and personally loving, empathetic, caring, a
33:56
Speaker 1: good cook wow, and a hell of a good pizza maker.
34:03
Speaker 3: The competition in the body family is real. Do you
34:06
Speaker 3: think you expressed how people describe you? Would you say
34:09
Speaker 3: that you live that out all the time in that
34:13
Speaker 3: like and I always ask people this, but if you
34:15
Speaker 3: walked into a room today, I actually feel like you
34:18
Speaker 3: are very much the way that you just described, which
34:21
Speaker 3: is great. But if you were to walk into a
34:23
Speaker 3: room right now, and you would be with like a
34:25
Speaker 3: group of five to ten people for ten to fifteen
34:27
Speaker 3: minutes when you left that room, do you think that
34:29
Speaker 3: they would describe yourself how you just described yourself.
34:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. If it's people that I had never met before,
34:40
Speaker 1: I think they'd have more questions. But people that I
34:44
Speaker 1: network with on a regular basis, I think see me
34:48
Speaker 1: in that way.
34:49
Speaker 3: Is there anything you wish that you had told your
34:54
Speaker 3: parents that you haven't?
35:01
Speaker 1: No? No, I mean you know, Dad's been gone for
35:06
Speaker 1: a while, and you know, I wish I told him
35:08
Speaker 1: I loved him more. But I told him I loved
35:10
Speaker 1: him a lot. But you can never express how much
35:12
Speaker 1: love you have for a parent. So I wish I
35:14
Speaker 1: told him that more. And I'm blessed that my mom
35:17
Speaker 1: is still with me. And we never ever in the
35:21
Speaker 1: conversation without saying I love you.
35:24
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Emily memory?
35:30
Speaker 1: One of my favorite Emily memories was running a five.
35:35
Speaker 2: K race with you, good memory.
35:38
Speaker 1: Our job was to bring up the rear of the
35:40
Speaker 1: race and hang out with the cop at the end
35:42
Speaker 1: of the race.
35:44
Speaker 4: But we've run more five k since then, we.
35:46
Speaker 1: Did, but that one was just memorable because not because
35:49
Speaker 1: of the successes we had. The success wasn't at the
35:52
Speaker 1: front of the pack. The success was that we crossed
35:55
Speaker 1: the finish line. So that's the one that I remember.
35:58
Speaker 1: We've run others. We've run the Fairfield of race a
36:01
Speaker 1: couple of times, I believe, and that you know that's
36:04
Speaker 1: that was a Those were great, great memories. Great race
36:07
Speaker 1: that begins and ends on a beach. How do you
36:09
Speaker 1: not love that?
36:10
Speaker 4: How do you not love that?
36:11
Speaker 3: I think one of my I have a few favorite
36:14
Speaker 3: Dad memories. One of them was after my last breakup,
36:20
Speaker 3: when you came into the city and we went to Tommy
36:23
Speaker 3: Bahama and had like three martinis. We had the martinis
36:27
Speaker 3: there and then we had a dinner reservation near Union Square.
36:31
Speaker 3: And the goal for all of this was to do
36:33
Speaker 3: it on the earlier side so that you could get
36:35
Speaker 3: back to Connecticut. I think you must have gotten in early,
36:37
Speaker 3: like at like four or four thirty, so happy hours
36:40
Speaker 3: from like four to six.
36:41
Speaker 4: Dinner was out like six fifteen.
36:44
Speaker 3: Before dinner, we decided to rampage this store in New
36:47
Speaker 3: York because Dad wanted these specific pants.
36:51
Speaker 1: The poor people who worked there. We go into this
36:53
Speaker 1: men's clothing store and totally we're rambling on and I'm
36:57
Speaker 1: trying stuff on in the dressing room, and all of
37:00
Speaker 1: a sudden, like three days later, this big box wines
37:03
Speaker 1: comes up in my house. You know you ps goes
37:08
Speaker 1: do you order all this? I can't remember doing it.
37:11
Speaker 3: I don't remember ordering all this before guy and then
37:15
Speaker 3: the poor guy, that poor guy, that poor guy, and
37:18
Speaker 3: the designer was like in the store helping us out.
37:21
Speaker 4: Like one on one.
37:22
Speaker 3: And then because Dad like had to catch a train,
37:25
Speaker 3: at like seven fifteen. I think, I want to say,
37:27
Speaker 3: like the bachelorette or something was on. So I had
37:29
Speaker 3: a plan to go to my best friend from college's
37:31
Speaker 3: house in the West Village, and I told her that
37:33
Speaker 3: I would bring wine.
37:35
Speaker 4: I am slammed, like I should not be buying more wine.
37:38
Speaker 3: But Dad carefully walks me into the liquor store before
37:43
Speaker 3: putting me in a cab and him getting in a
37:45
Speaker 3: cab to go back to Grand Central so that I
37:47
Speaker 3: didn't show up empty handed to my friend's house, and
37:50
Speaker 3: then of course made me call him as soon as
37:51
Speaker 3: I got into my friend's house.
37:54
Speaker 1: I remember that wine shopping expedition. This is good. Just
37:58
Speaker 1: take this one nicely.
38:01
Speaker 4: Oh my god, definitely that was a good time.
38:05
Speaker 3: I think the best nights with both friends and family
38:08
Speaker 3: for me are ones that have like a loose plan
38:11
Speaker 3: that evolves into something even better than you maybe anticipated
38:15
Speaker 3: for it.
38:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, kind of just flying without a
38:20
Speaker 1: flight plan, if you will. And we're still blessed to
38:23
Speaker 1: be able to have some of those things. You know.
38:25
Speaker 1: My mom, Emily's grandma, lives out on the east end
38:27
Speaker 1: of Long Island, and we tend to gravitate to that
38:29
Speaker 1: area for holidays and you know, some summer family dinners
38:34
Speaker 1: and things like that, and it's always loose and we're
38:37
Speaker 1: cracking lobster shelves around the table or something and drinking
38:40
Speaker 1: a lot of wine. It's fun time.
38:42
Speaker 4: What are your hopes for me?
38:48
Speaker 1: Happiness in whatever role it is that you feel fulfilled.
38:54
Speaker 1: It's it's very general. It's gratifying to me to see
38:57
Speaker 1: you succeed professionally doing what you want. Hurdle has grown,
39:02
Speaker 1: I think beyond what you thought it would ever be.
39:06
Speaker 1: I get joy from seeing you be successful in it
39:09
Speaker 1: as well as in your writing endeavors. And I just
39:14
Speaker 1: want you to be happy at all.
39:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, me be happy.
39:19
Speaker 3: What would you say reflecting on me being an entrepreneur?
39:24
Speaker 3: What would you say has been one of your proudest
39:28
Speaker 3: moments of me as an entrepreneur?
39:35
Speaker 1: I think the way I mean, anyone can start a business,
39:39
Speaker 1: and almost anyone does, but watching the way that you
39:43
Speaker 1: handle your business with an eye on long term success
39:52
Speaker 1: is really to be commended. Trademark issues, copyrights, not just
39:57
Speaker 1: throwing something together to get it going, but really doing
40:01
Speaker 1: the homework and putting your business together the right way.
40:06
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the way Grandpa would build furniture,
40:10
Speaker 1: that story, you know, starting with great war materials and
40:13
Speaker 1: building something that's going to stand the test of time.
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Speaker 3: What advice do you have for me when it comes
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Speaker 3: to this new chapter that I'm in here in Brooklyn.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a new chapter. I know
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Speaker 1: it's a new house, a new place to live, but
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Speaker 1: it's still you. You're doing what you were doing before.
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Speaker 1: You can spread out a little bit more. You have
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Speaker 1: a studio, you have color coded books on the shelf
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Speaker 1: behind you, all these things that you didn't have room
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Speaker 1: for before. So if that's a new chapter, professionally, I
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Speaker 1: acknowledge that. Personally, I don't think that you're going to
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Speaker 1: change because you're in Brooklyn instead of Manhattan. I think
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Speaker 1: you'll change Brooklyn. They have no idea what they're up against.
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Speaker 3: When you think about your values, what comes to mind.
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Speaker 1: My values right now going through a period here, If
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Speaker 1: I was to swing this camera around, you'd see lots
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Speaker 1: of boxes and furniture, and this room has six lamps
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Speaker 1: in it right now, and that's because my girlfriend and
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Speaker 1: I are now living together, so her stuff is here
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Speaker 1: and my stuff is here. And during this process we
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Speaker 1: have discovered that we have a lot to give away.
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Speaker 1: So it's really kind of cool to be able to
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Speaker 1: take perfectly good stuff and bring it to the veterans
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Speaker 1: or Habitat for Humanity or the people at Goodwill because
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Speaker 1: they need this stuff a lot more than we need
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Speaker 1: this stuff. So that's gratifying to be able to help
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Speaker 1: others out.
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Speaker 2: Generosity, generosity.
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Speaker 1: Sparked by necessity.
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Speaker 2: I guess, but still generosity.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we're trying to you know, six thousand square
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Speaker 1: feet worth of stuff in three thousand square feet of house.
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Speaker 3: Wow, three thousand square foot of house. That's yeah, so
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Speaker 3: much room for activities.
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Speaker 1: So much room. It's just we could just you know,
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Speaker 1: play tennis.
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Speaker 3: I'levanter the house. Well, I mean that's not even to
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Speaker 3: count the backyard here. Okay, So we're sorrying to wind
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Speaker 3: down our conversation. Dad, when you think about being a father,
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Speaker 3: reflecting because it is Father's Day week here, what would
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Speaker 3: you say is something you are looking forward to in
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Speaker 3: your fatherhood journey?
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Speaker 1: Still grandfatherhood eventually it would be nice. You know a
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Speaker 1: lot of our friends have grandkids, and I think as
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Speaker 1: much as becoming a father changes your life, I think
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Speaker 1: becoming a grandfather does that too, and I was blessed
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Speaker 1: to have two great dads that were role models and
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Speaker 1: taught me a lot about fatherhood. I'm also looking forward
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Speaker 1: to more great family time that was kind of stolen
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Speaker 1: from us last year, and I don't want to wait
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Speaker 1: to get it back. You know, I feel like to
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Speaker 1: a certain extent, as a father and as a member
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Speaker 1: of a family, we're making up for lost time. So
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Speaker 1: you know, I get to see my mom this weekend,
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Speaker 1: and that's a treat. And you know, oh wow, moment,
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Speaker 1: we get to go to Kathy's mom's wedding this weekend.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of a kick in the pants. That's something
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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to. And then you know, Christmas Eve
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Speaker 1: dinners and Thanksgivings and things like that. Always always a
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Speaker 1: favorite of mine, always a family favorite, so many many
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Speaker 1: more of those.
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Speaker 4: What's your hurdle moment?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've never thought about this before, but to me, hurdle.
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Speaker 1: Moments are our career moments at professional moments. Okay, I mean,
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Speaker 1: just getting through last year was a major one. Leaving
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Speaker 1: a job to start a business is a real big one.
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Speaker 4: What about when your father passed away?
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Speaker 1: That's not a hurdle. That's death valley. Yeah, that's a
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Speaker 1: hurdle you never clear. So I have a picture of
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Speaker 1: Grandpa in the kitchen that I it's strategically positioned. So
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Speaker 1: I go get my stuff to go to work. I
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Speaker 1: work at home now, but every morning I have to
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Speaker 1: go to where this picture is and I always say
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Speaker 1: hi to him, and he always, you know, gives me
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Speaker 1: a pat on the back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's special.
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Speaker 1: It tells me to do good.
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Speaker 4: It tells you to do good. All right, Bob, we're
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Speaker 4: winding down here.
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Speaker 3: If you could offer me a piece of advice as
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Speaker 3: I continue on here as an entrepreneur, as your daughter,
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Speaker 3: just going forward in life, what would your piece of
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Speaker 3: advice be for me?
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Speaker 1: Be true to yourself. Success is measured in happiness and
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Speaker 1: smiles and not in your bank balance, although you and
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Speaker 1: I can talk about that stuff offline. Just do what
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Speaker 1: you want to do, not what someone else wants you
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Speaker 1: to do. The expectations that you have to meet in
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Speaker 1: life are the ones that you set, not the ones
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Speaker 1: that anyone else sets. And I think that you're just
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Speaker 1: killing it. You're knocking it out of the park, and
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Speaker 1: it makes me very, very happy to be your dad.
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Speaker 4: Thanks Dad.
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Speaker 3: This isn't the conventional last question here, but you have
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Speaker 3: an opportunity right now to offer the hurdlers one last
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Speaker 3: piece of advice getting over their hurdles.
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Speaker 4: You have the opportunity to.
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Speaker 3: Be everyone's stand in dad for this moment, right now.
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Speaker 4: What do you tell them?
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Speaker 1: Look in the mirror. Are you happy with what you say?
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Speaker 1: If not, find a dream, figure out how to give
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Speaker 1: it some wings and make it real. Your audience is
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Speaker 1: younger rather than older. This is the time to make
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Speaker 1: shit happen. This is the time right now. Go make
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Speaker 1: it happen. Find that hurdle.
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Speaker 4: And conquer it concrete.
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Speaker 3: Oh Dad, what a jem I know you're not ready
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Speaker 3: to announce your new podcast plans here on the show yet,
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Speaker 3: but please make sure to reach out to me when
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Speaker 3: you are, and we'll give it some airtime. How do
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Speaker 3: the hurdlers keep up with you? How do they follow
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Speaker 3: along with you? Some of them already? Do?
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Speaker 1: Many of them already? Do? I love you, guys, I
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Speaker 1: love you, and you love Bam bam bob. So you
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Speaker 1: see me lurking in the background commenting on Emily's contents
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Speaker 1: all the time. So if you if you follow me,
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Speaker 1: I'll follow you back. Oh love you guys.
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Speaker 2: Bye.
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Speaker 3: Over on Instagram at Bam Bam Bob. I'm over on
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Speaker 3: Instagram at Hurdle Podcast at Emily a Body, Another hurdle conquered.
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Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time.