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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - October 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to another exciting PSM's current events.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: These are really picking up now.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: Now the football season starts.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: These are going to get fun.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: So first off, we'll start with uh I guess we're gonna call it our football Palooza.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! Woo-hoo!
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um Pitt beat Duquesne in one of I can't remember which directional Michigan school, but um I I think was it Central?
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Central, maybe, yeah.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: Eli Holstein, he looks good stat-wise, but when you watch him play, he he threw an interception against Duquesne that kind of kept them in the game, and then he definitely threw one against that Michigan school that kept them in the game for the whole first half.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: So he's been kind of doing that, and that kind of leads us to the backyard brawl.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_02: Pitt did blow a 10-point lead after not scoring a lot of points early, and then um they gave up like a touchdown with 10 seconds left and then got sacked on third down and had a long fourth down, which they didn't have Jake Hofort and Pete Gonzalez around to convert.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: So uh yes, Pitt lost in overtime to a really, really bad West Virginia team.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: Now I understand this is a rivalry game, Tim, and that's important to West Virginia.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's important to Pitt, and that's probably the best game that West Virginia was gonna play, and as hard as they were gonna play, but um yeah, I uh that one sucked because West Virginia, I think, lost its last two games by like, you know, 30 points each.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not like they're playing Ohio State both of those weeks.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: They're playing, I think, Kansas State or somebody in I don't know.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: They weren't they were good teams, but they weren't excellent teams.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's one thing to lose that game, like you say it's a rivalry game.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Pitt basically gave it away.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: And and I I won't get too ahead of you, but they they kind of did the same thing.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: The week after.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: So so I guess my question is, is this a trend with the team?
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I apparently the answer is yes.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: So they played Louisville.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: Louisville was uh, I think three-o, two and oh coming into this.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: Three-no, they were three and oh, and James Madison had been kind of the toughest team Louisville played in.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: You say, oh, who's James Madison is a decent program.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: They're not like you know, top flight, but they're like that Appalachian State kind of team, like or North Dakota State.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't want to really play them and take them lightly because they will beat you.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so Pitt in this game, Pitt had leads of 17 and 10 points and blew them both.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I kind of thoughts where the offense can't stay on the field, and then the defense just keeps giving up scores.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: Holstein ended up getting benched late in the game.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a play early, they were up 17 to nothing, and the defense was playing well, stopping a run.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't think Louisville really ran the ball hardly well at all.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like Pitt did really well at that.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: And they're punting, and the guy for Pitt gets there's a hand on the he puts his hand on the back of the Louisville player, and the Louisville player doesn't change direction at all, but continues in his path and runs into the pit player who's signaling for a fair catch.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's not called fair kick care kick interference.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: It hits off the pit players hand barely and falls to the five.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's a bad call by the officials.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Even uh if the guy was pushed by the pit player, wouldn't that be an illegal block in the back to him?
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't understand that call.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you have to call that too then if he was pushed into him, because they said, Oh, he was pushed into him.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: Or it was kind of a late signal, but whatever, bad call.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: So what?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's only seven points.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: Louisville didn't score 30 points on one play, and it just seemed like Pitt just kept like dinging their own hole.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like the next drive, they go three and out, and it's because this I don't mean to like criticize this offense, but they run so fast, they really don't give the defense a break.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so they're punting, and literally, this is the worst punt I've ever seen, and I've watched football for a long time now.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh it was Junko just literally dropped the ball.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_02: It was like he wasn't looking or something, it was just ridiculous, and it just added, and once again, the defense just lets them score, so now they're right back in the game.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: You're like, oh my goodness.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Late in the third quarter, Holstein throws a costly interception in the red zone again.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: He throws a big pass because there was literally a point in the game where the offense hadn't been on the field for a half an hour.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: I timed it.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was one to one thirty, they were not on the field, and it's this wiki whack offense that doesn't stay on the the field much to begin with.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: And even that drive, remember, Tim, it was just like a one deal.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like a long pass, and they got down inside the five, and then Holstein throws an absolutely horrible pass.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's like just take the sack there or throw it out of bounds, and he just tries to loft it over the defensive the defensive lineman.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of his passes have been getting tipped, so I don't know if he's trying to finesse it, and it just it was bad.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's throwing an interception in the end zone.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if it's every week.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm uh it's I can't remember if that Duquesne one was in the end zone, but yes, it was, yeah.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I mean it that's that's so brutal.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: You get down that was first in goal, too.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: And they were gonna be up what what was it?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: It was twenty.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: They were gonna be up seventeen again.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Or thirteen at the worst.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and and that's just so br such a brutal way to turn the ball over.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's you can't just so both lost pitch would be four and oh right now.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: Both like if you get beat, that's fine.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you you know you feel like there's more meat on the bone with this team, don't you?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't have a problem with the K I like Cade Bell's offense, actually, because if you score points.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: But you look at Oregon, I watched some of that Oregon Penn State game, and I'm I I I get the vibe that's kind of a similar offense.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like they run the shotgun.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: They're not afraid to have a big back out of that shotgun run the ball for a couple yards and have a long five-minute drive.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, five-minute drives aren't the end of the world, you know.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: But but that offense would be fine.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: It would be scoring enough points to win if you weren't committing total implosion mistakes.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the punter dropping the ball, the fumble, the the interception on first and goal, then he throws the other interception later across the middle of the field, which really is responsible for the winning score.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: It it's just you can't so so to me, it's like you and and and and the frustrating thing about Eli Holstein is he's not a bad quarterback.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's actually a pretty good quarterback.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because we've had enough bad quarterbacks, and they're just like, okay, he has he has an arm and he the thing he does well is when he runs around, he can like on the one touchdown.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, didn't they have him roll out and he threw a touchdown?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: I or no, that was the long pass.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: That was the one at the end of the half.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was that's well no, there was another, the long pass that set up the other interception.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: They rolled, they like had him roll out.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's like he just for whatever reason, and I remember in the Duquesne game, he missed uh a wide open guy for a touchdown.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: When he's in the pocket, he is not seeing the field.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I I wonder, you know, on the offensive gym, maybe start rolling him out more and running him more because him from the pocket right now, and get his confidence back.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I don't think he he has confidence right now.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: He he did this last year too.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: He would make some like massive mistakes, but he would usually make them in like the third quarter and then he'd and then in the fourth quarter he'd recover, and this year he's making them later and not recovering, and that's been the difference.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Again, they should be 4-0 right now.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: And and so in some ways it's promising because maybe they do have a decent team and they're just still putting it together, but these last two weeks were just beyond maddening.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think if they had a big back and they could put the like to help Reed that would and Reed is always hurt.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's the other problem.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think Reed's at every down back, I think he's very good at what he does.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: But if you pair him with like a big back kind of guy, like he's much he's gonna be much more effective.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna stay on the field and you're gonna really have something then.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: And when you need to give your defense a rest and just keep that Louisville offense on the sidelines for five minutes, you'll be able to do that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: But anywho, uh, that's enough of pitch.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: On to the Steelers.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, in the first game of the season, the Steelers beat the Jets in the shootout with former quarterback Justin Fields.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the Steelers didn't run the ball that well, but Aaron Rodgers threw the ball.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: I was surprised to see how well Aaron Rodgers played.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think he was that good.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but they won and Jalen Ramsey, boy, I the more I watch him, the more I realize like what the hype was about with him.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um then this the Seattle they lost on the game that kind of turned on a fluky pass interception.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um then the Steelers beat the Patriots because literally they probably should have not won that game.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: The Patriots could not figure out how to not turn the ball over five times.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: The Patriots thought they were like the Pitt Panthers or something and just decided to have like fumbles and all kinds of stuff.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: So Amy any comments on those first three games there, Tim?
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, they got wins on two of them.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and they didn't look great, they didn't look sharp, they had a lot of problems on defense.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Offensive line looked really bad.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, the that we're now in this era where the first four weeks of the NFL season is an extended preseason because they don't play preseason games anymore for real.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: They limit the practices, all that stuff.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Guys hold out, you know, all that stuff.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so you really don't have cohesion for, especially a team like ours where we have so many new guys.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: And we have a lot of new players this year.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a lot.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: So to me, those first three weeks were a man, get as many wins as you can, but don't we also have injuries.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: We've also had really unlucky injuries.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, defense we've had a lot, like the big first round pick.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: He missed the first couple games.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Porter's been hurt, Elliott's been hurt, um, Highsmith's been hurt.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: So so you can't really judge.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, and then and then going into the the Dublin game this week, I mean, they they seem to really put it all together finally, for the most part.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, the Steelers went to Ireland and boy, they they might do this every couple years, Tim.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Did you see that crowd?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: It was like basically you you if you would have not told me that was not on the Norse side, I wouldn't have known the difference.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: It was so many Steelers fans.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: There were some Viking fans there, but man, they were singing.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, normally, if you ever watch these international games, it's a very like blah crowd.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's they're they're they're not really into the game that much.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_02: They're kind of like, ooh, yay, you know.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, that was really impressive.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, of course, the connection is um the Rooneys are from Ireland, their great grandfather lived there.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Dan Rooney was ambassador there from 2009 to 2012.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he did a lot of charity work.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: He started in the 70s during all the uh they call him the Troubles, which was like a bunch of political unrest between the factions in Northern Ireland.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: Some that wanted to stay, some that won their own country, and it took like 40 years to work that out.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: So gee, Tim, political rest that takes 40 years to work out.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: I guess we're not gonna see political, uh, non-political turmoil in our lifetime, huh?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yo, Aaron Rodgers, you know, for so the Steelers win 24-21.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Aaron Rodgers plays great.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: He's 18 for 22, 200, 200 yards, one touchdown, no interceptions.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, my question going into the game was why can't the Steelers run the ball?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: 63 yards per game.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: They're 31st in the NFL, Tim.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Kenneth Gainwell had 99 yards and 5.9 per carry.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: He looked really sharp, though.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: He looked really he had two touchdowns also.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And the NFL network coverage sucked.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it was funny.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, when he scored a second touchdown, they gave the points to the Vikings.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: And they missed, um, did you see the uh the touch push with uh DK Metcalf?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: So they weren't and they they they totally missed it in like real time.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: They they had to show a replay, but um the other question was why can't the Steelers stop the run?
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: They're 1993 yards per game, 26 to the NFL.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see how many how many rushing yards.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: The looks like 57 rushing yards for the running back from the Vikings.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and remember, this is a Minnesota team that scored.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know the Cincinnati's defense is bad, but they scored like 49 points last week.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like they're a bad Minnesota.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: But there was like a bunch of defensive scores, like that one guy had a bunch of.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Fine, fine.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying Minnesota is a good team.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think they have a lot of injuries, isn't it?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: So do we.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: We were missing our starting running back, Steve.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Jalen Warren didn't play, uh, High Smith didn't play.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: There was somebody else.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Porter was still out.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, you know, we've been missing guys all season.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: I that's a quality win.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was finally, you know, we could stop the run, we could stop the pass.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: I know they came back at the end, but well, part of the reason they were able to stop the run is because offense uh the offensive line for the Vikings has been hurt.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: It got worse.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Brian O'Neal from Pitt got hurt on what looked like to me, I didn't see the replay, but it looked like a cheap shot on the uh why is he playing on field goal coverage anyway?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: He was he was the one of the offensive linemen for the field goal unit, and I I think I look like one of the Steelers tried to jump over him, quite honestly.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, we said when we previewed the season, we said two and two at the bye week we would beat.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's sort of we were expecting.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think we would have been happy with that.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: So three and one and and teams that you know are decent that we beat.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: I I I mean you can't complain.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: And again, they're they're coming together.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's been a slow process, but again, a bunch of new guys, extended preseason.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not disappointed at this point.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I think I'm surprised they're three and one.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm surprised with the performance of Aaron Rodgers, and if the defense can come around at all, I mean, boy, they they they're at least they're gonna make the playoffs.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: If the if the defense, if the defense can gel and if the offensive line can continue to improve, because that's the other big thing.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the like you said about not being able to run the ball.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I get stopping Minnesota's run because of injuries, but Minnesota has a good defense, yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Brian Florey.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was that was a good yeah, that was a good day.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: And they protected Rogers because Rogers kept getting flat.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they got sacked like the first part of the game, he got sacked a lot, but then they figured it out.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um Jalen Ramsey had a great game.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: He played hurt like on that play.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know if we talked about it.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the officials, you know, once again, the officials, because you know, when I show up for football this weekend, I was like, can I see some, yeah?
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: I want to talk about the officials twice in a row.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they made some really questionable calls.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: There was a this one was more of a rules call.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: The running back from Minnesota had fumbled, but he was laying out of bounds, and he literally just put his hand on the ball.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't have possession, and Jalen Ramsey took it off him and ran it in for a touchdown, and they called it back because apparently the rule is when you're laying out of bounds and you touch the ball or you have a body part out of bounds, that automatically kills the play.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: So whatever.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there was an interception late in the game that got called back.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: It was a close one.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: I at first glance I thought he double caught it, and I guess he did.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, and then there was two, like there was a Tiki-Tac call on Patrick Queen right after that, and a very dubious call on TJ Watt for offsides.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, the only you know, Aaron Rodgers, the in you know, when it's your day, it's your day, you know, he had a fumble and it bounced right up to Broderick Jones, which was just amazing to watch an offensive lineman run like five yards with the ball.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, how did you uh the end of the game, what what was Mike Tomlin thinking?
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: This this is a head scratching division when he punted?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Or when he took the delayed game penalty?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, there was uh uh 414 in the fourth quarter up 24 to 14.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and they went for the four and they went for it from the four instead of kicking the field goal.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't mind that.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's terrible.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's a terrible call.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because in the end No, if you kick the field goal, they have to score a touchdown instead of and they let it come down to that.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: At the end of the game, all that they had to do was get to the 50.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they were 10 yards away from kicking a game-tying fick field goal.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: The difference, the difference, it was the difference between a two-score lead and a three-score lead.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: And the other thing is if you don't get it, they're pinned at the one-yard line.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Now they have an 80-yard pass to Addison, which that was because somebody got hurt, I thought.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, was that 25 or was it 21?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: It was Clark.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: Clark shouldn't have been in there, but the guy that played before a guy got hurt, and he just bit on like a route or something.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: But if that doesn't happen, if they don't have an 80-yard pass and then Stewart just play pre-vent defense, then it probably takes the Vikings until like one minute left to score.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: They use all their timeouts and they have to and they have to do an onside kick and then the game.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that was the problem, is like even when they got down, you were like, okay, just don't score before the two-minute warning.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: As long as you don't score on the front side of the two-minute warning.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, what did they they scored on fourth down with like 205?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because and that hurts because it it's like what a they they score.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: It hurts because they get the two-minute time, they had still had two timeouts at that point.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have a problem going for it.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: I had a I you kick the field, you kick the field goal there.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: You I like because it doesn't matter.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, because it it doesn't matter.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: The clock isn't going to run anyway if you don't get it.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's a three-score lead.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's a difference between two scores and three scores, it puts the game away.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I had a bigger problem with him punting and not going for it on fourth one, fourth and one with like a minute 20 left.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: And they punted the ball through the end zone.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: That was what I had a problem with.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: I thought maybe they should have there, I would have gone back to the Tush push play, but I mean, I don't know.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Carson Wentz, once again, like what my original thoughts on this game was, you know, it we'll go.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess we'll agree.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: See, wouldn't have been much more comfortable at the end of that game, though, when when they're trying to come back, instead of just having to get to the 50, they actually have to score a touchdown.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because they got the ball back, and it like without with like a minute left, and they at their own 20 and just needed to get to the 50 to attempt the field goal.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Take away, like I said, Steve, take away the 81-yard pass to Addison, and there's no way that they're getting the ball twice unless they recover the onside kick.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because it could to drive 99 yards all the way down the field to score a touchdown was going to take them the whole rest of the clock.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's the reason I think I I think I don't have a problem with the throw on second down, but and especially you were on the four.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you were at the in closer, I'd have been like, uh, maybe.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'd even let him throw it.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: As long as you don't throw an interception, the clock's gonna stop anyway.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Play play call play call wasn't great.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm I was more just saying I like the decision, but you're right, the play call wasn't great.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: Even if you're gonna do it, throw the ball in the end zone.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it gets picked off if you tackle him, as long as he doesn't return it very far, you're okay.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because the ball, the clock's gonna stop no matter what.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: You're only gonna take seven seconds off the clock there.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: And like like if you score there, that's the dagger.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with you there.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: But when you're at that part of the field, it's like that's such a no-man's land.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: You either throw it in the end zone or kick the field goal.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: You don't run some half-ass little play.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: That that I do agree with you on.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, anyway, uh the Steelers run the ball, the Steelers stop the run, they don't turn it over.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Broderick Jones gets to get a rushing stat.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's why they won.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Also, Minnesota having all those injuries.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: And also, I said before the game, I said Minnesota, I was picking Minnesota to win this, and I wasn't confident because of Carson Wentz.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, if Minnesota can run the ball, they should be able to cover for him.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what happened to him?
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: They weren't able to run the ball, they weren't able to cover for him in freaking who who was it was that one tight end who announces the games, who's supposedly like normally he's not I don't know.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: He he kept saying, Oh, Carson Wentz is so great.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he completed eight passes in a row, but he's thrown two interceptions, dude.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Oh, that one was tipped.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't tipped.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: He threw it straight to Jalen.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, what are you looking at?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: This is like whatever's.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, like you said, three and one.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, who thought we'd be here?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and now they're at the bye week.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Some of these guys that are hurt can hopefully heal up.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I honestly like if you would have told me in in preseason we'd be three and one at the bye week, I wouldn't have been disappointed with you.
• 21:59
  unknown: No.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Who do they play after the bye?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: Cleveland, maybe.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: Anywho, uh Paul Skeens went ten and ten with like a one point nine seven ERA, Tim, switching to baseball.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, how do you feel about that, Tim?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna sit back.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's Steve, Steve calling from Beachview.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, that Paul Skeens gonna win to Cy Young.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: He went, he got 10 wins and had a 1.97 ERA.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think of him?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'll hang up and listen.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: So before I go on a rant, what do you think he's already one of the top five best pitchers in the history of the franchise?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll um not exactly a real starting.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, list.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, what are you looking at?
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: Vern Law, who was Bob Freddy Blast, Babe Adams, like you'd have to go way back.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, Doug Drabock won a Cy Young Award.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's so again, we don't exactly have a uh Deacon Phil.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're not we're not exactly the Baltimore Orioles.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, but I mean I think he's already one of the best pitchers in the history of the franchise.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: But my God, how do you win the Cy Young Award?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: He's a lock for the Cy Young Award.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: And you're 10 and 10.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so so here, Steve.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: I I I've done enough complaining on the show about Bob Nutting.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to rip into Bob Nutting.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I want to make a plea to Bob Nutting because I'm sure Stevie listens to this show.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: So so Mr.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Nutting, Mr.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Nutting, I don't want to attack you.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: Look, I'm sure you're not a bad human being.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: I am imploring you to please take this opportunity that you have with some foundational pieces, including, like we said, one of the best pitchers maybe in the history of the franchise.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Take that opportunity to do whatever it takes to field a competitive ball club for next year.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: It won't be easy and it won't be cheap, but just imagine what your legacy would be in this town if you were to get the Pirates to a World Series.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: People are remembered for what they did at the end, Mr.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Nutting.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Andrew Carnegie was a miserable miser who abused his workers and he's revered in this town.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Even Henry Clay Flick Henry Clay Frick, who busted the union down there, uh, has got a park named after him.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he heck, Steve.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Darth Vader blew up an entire planet.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: But he saved his son at the end, right?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Something like that.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: And Mr.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Nunning, like I know you're not exactly on your deathbed, but you won't ever have a better chance than this.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: And if you go all in to build a winner, or even if you go all in and you just get us close, then years after you're gone, people won't remember all the years of losing and all the sell-to-team chance.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: They would remember how you did the right thing by all these people in this town who have shouted out their hard-earned money to you over the years.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: So please, sir, I implore you, I beg you, do the right thing here.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is this like a role-play thing?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like on PTI, do I like hold up a little mask of blah blah blah and say?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is just my open plea to him because this is this is our best chance, Steve.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is our best chance.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: I can only I I I approve this message, Tim.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: In 30 years, we've never had it, we've never had a phenomenon player like that.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: If they just get a couple hitters, maybe they'll go out and get Aaron Judge.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't they don't have to get, you know, they don't have to sp spend a billion dollars.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: But but just try.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like they don't they Well, maybe they could sign O'Tani as that he played, you know, Otani plays for the league minimum.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he has a billion-dollar contract.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: Backloaded.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Backloaded.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, you'll never I mean, I say you'll never pay it.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: I say sign them for a$2 billion and it'll all be backloaded.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: You'll never see that money.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's the Howard Baldwin gambit.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you don't have to go that big.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying just go out and sign some some good peace.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Do what the Milwaukee Brewers have done.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Look how good they are.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like you don't have to be the Dodgers, you don't have to be the Yankees.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Just be just be a little bit more competent than you are, and you could really have a winner here.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: We get into the playoffs, Steve, and he pitches.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's that's we could really do some damage.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not that hard.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: They could do it.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: They could do it.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: But how could how can you let this guy go 10 and 10?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just unbelievable.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's unbelievable.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, Mr.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Nunning, I don't want I don't want to complaining and bashing you, everybody does that.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm just asking you.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is your legacy on the line.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: You could you could do the right thing.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: People would forget all the bad stuff and they would just remember what you did at the end.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: I want the storybook ending, Steve.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I like I said, I approve this message.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: I hope it works out for you, Tib.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of storybook endings.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Penguin News.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: Can you believe Penguins preseason is happening?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: And uh here's a question for you.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: Would you pay$200 for a ticket to a penguin season, to a preseason game for the Penguins?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: A$200 for a ticket.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Anytime I've ever gone, I get them for free.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like somebody just gives them to me.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, when when you got number 29, I guess you would because people did.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: I know, that's crazy, isn't it?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: So Mark Andre Fleury um signed like uh what do they call it, like a pro tryout or something for the penguins.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: He's obviously going to retire, and this was just his last draw.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: He wanted to retire as a penguin, and um, you know, that's so what's what he did.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: He played in the game.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he he actually stopped all the shots he saw, and they actually had like a little exhibition shootout because I think the penguins are won anyway.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: So they they had him do a shootout, and he went, he he stopped everything but one goal.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like a couple of the guys didn't even try for were they playing?
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think they were playing Columbus, but one guy really did, and he really made a nice save on him.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: So there you go.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: Class Act, class again for a class act.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: They interviewed him during the game, and everybody loves him.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, that's it was a great way to end his career.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what a what a cool moment.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they guys do that all the time.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: There's one-day contract so that they can retire, but usually you don't put them into a game.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't Rod Woodson do that or no?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: Or Tomzak.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think Tomzak did that.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like like six years after his last game or something.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, guys do that all the time, which is which again is cool.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: I like I just like the concept of that.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: But man, actually getting to put him in.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: I know it was a preseason game, but he got to play the whole third period of that game, and people were canning one more year.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was just a cool moment.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And and the penguins aren't going to have a lot of cool moments this year, so it was nice to have that.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's it for our Pittsburgh sports memories, current events.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, thanks for listening.
• 28:45
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• 28:48
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• 28:50
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• 28:57
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