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#350 - For Azeroth!: "Arcantina" · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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I would just like to stop tailoring the game to the 97%.
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Victory for the Forsaken, for Lauderon for the Karen Tour.
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For. Pandaria for Calendar to the
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burning region for Gilnaeus, but has not done for the Lich King.
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For the. Sindora for the Alliance for the
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Horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to
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another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny,
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AKA the true villain Manny and I am joined by the other two parts
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of the Triumphant first coming from parts unknown.
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From background Bear we have lexer ants.
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Hello Manny, How are you? How are we doing?
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How does the world work out treating you, Manny?
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I'm done with the War Within. Not really.
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I still have goals in the War Within.
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I'm just ready to move on. And it seems like I'm not the
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only one. Fair you, I have some really bad
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news about that, but best of I I, I do kind of feel you though.
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We finally hit salad bar in Heroic, so we're on the AOTC
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push officially. We're starting to hold instead
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of doing resets and I got my astral antenna so I have
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everything I need other than AOTC.
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OK, there you go. I'm glad.
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I'm glad. So you've got you've got salad
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bar on the ropes. You're going to get through them
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and then go after Mr. Demi Lord. And then Sean, how are you?
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And how's the World of Warcraft treating you?
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Warcraft. Treated me quite well, Manny,
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Quite well. We are probably doing one more
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week of re clear and then extending.
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We are on Nexus King Saladar. We have gotten them to P3
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thrice. But for anybody who's tracking
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Nexus King Salad bar, getting to P3 means you still have like 150
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bulls. It's it's very intense fight.
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So we're getting ready to to extend after this week's re
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clear. So that's going well.
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I've, I've stopped rating on EU for the season because the team
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has shifted into hey, wouldn't it be fun if we all brought alts
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that can't clear this content mode and that's not really a
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mode I enjoy. So my now I'm just doing
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dungeons and stuff there. But things are going well.
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I've dialed back and when I do you guys remember when I came
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into the season, I was like, I'm going to have 4 alts all ready
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to go. That is dialed way, way back.
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I did a bunch of keys last week for the because the week was the
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weekly was the dungeon one. But yeah, I'm I'm shifting back
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into like, let's just one character per region.
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That's more than reasonable, you know.
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So we got the Druid EU and the Paladin NA.
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That's what it is right now. That's correct.
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Yeah, bro, Paladin and Guardian Druid rock and those that tank
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life, and I am sort of like dabbling on my warrior a little
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bit. We're in a really good spot this
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season, so it feels nice. That's that's good to hear.
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That's good to hear. I remember my first kill of
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salad bar. The entire raid was like
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basically dead except for our monk.
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The enrage is coming in and then just before it hits the last
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spike going up our monk gets gets him low enough to touch of
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death hits him with the touch of death, spikes come up, the monk
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dies, but it was fast enough to count.
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The counts, he can't take those wins.
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Yes, so, but much love to our monk for that.
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We've cleaned it up a lot since then and we're going to do our
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achievement run soon, I believe next week.
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And then hopefully that means that I will have my Tuesdays and
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Thursdays free because I've got a lot of things going on myself
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that I'd like to get done. And I'd, I'd love to open up
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those nights that maybe do some mythic plus, get that done, do
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all of those mounts that I was like, oh, I'm going to come back
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and do that. Remember way back at the
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beginning, Sean, when you're like, I did a weekend group and
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I got the like B Mountain, the water mountain, I'm like, yeah,
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I'll get to that later. Time's running out for me.
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It's it's a little scary. Yeah, we're getting very close
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to the end. Yeah.
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And then all that is to say, we have Legion coming up and I want
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to spend some time in Legion, of course.
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But even before Legion came out, it's been utterly eclipsed
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because we now have so much news about World of Warcraft.
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Midnight, the alpha has been announced.
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That's right, Blizzard put out a article saying that the midnight
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alpha is going to be released. That alpha is going to be coming
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on October 2nd. That is a closed alpha.
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So over the course of that test, they're going to be inviting
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friends and family, content creators, all the usual suspects
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to give feedback. If you are invited to this
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alpha, you will get an e-mail directing you to download the
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client. Your client itself will be
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flagged. Watch out for the phishing scams
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guys. There are still so many people
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who are like hey give give you account info all of this
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Blizzard GMs, Blizzard emails will never ask you for your
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account information. Be careful.
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I have had a friend who got their account utterly screwed
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over and it was fun when they logged.
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Well, it was sort of funny when they logged back in and they
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were in the middle of like Stranglethorn butt naked,
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everything gone. They did get their account
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rolled back, but it was just a hilarious sight of them logging
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in being like, Oh no, And like not quite to tears, but like you
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put a lot of effort into this stuff.
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Be safe with it, friends. So the roll out is going to be
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in five phases. Each phase is going to be one
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week starting on October 2nd. That's phase one.
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We're going to be getting level 80 to 83 and that's going to be
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in the ever song Woods. That's going to have the level
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up campaign and the airator story.
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It's going to have a thing called R Cantina, which I am
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currently puzzled about the local stories.
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Of course, housing for all of you guys who are really looking
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to get hands on on housing that'll be there for dungeons.
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We've got Wind Runner, Spire and Murder Row the Delves.
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For you Delve lovers, we've got the Collegiate Calamity, the
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Parhelion Plaza, the Dark Way, and of course you're going to be
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doing those with Valera Sanguinar, who's our new Delve
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companion. For classes, we are going to get
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our first hands on with the Devourer Demon Hunter, and for
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all the other classes, you are getting class updates in phase
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one there. But I do want to tell you that
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because you're at level 83, you're only going to get really
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like one talent point into each of the different trees and
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apparently Apex talents are coming later.
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More on that. Lastly, professions.
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We've seen some buzz about professions becoming simplified,
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so that's going to be there on phase one, which is really cool.
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What do you guys think about this phase one and like the
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general alpha, you excited? Oh, I'm over the moon, Manny.
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I've been do you guys have any idea how long I've been waiting
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to mess with devour Demon Hunter?
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It's literally since we saw the new raid and somebody put in my
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head that there was going to be a void Demon Hunter and I've
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been obsessed with it since then.
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So I'm I'm super excited. I am really curious about delves
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because they are saying there's going to be that like vibe shift
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right at with with losing brand bless up as as your companion.
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I'm sorry, I think I'm the only person who still hates Bran.
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Still hates. No, no, no.
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I never stopped. I'm with you if you hate Bran.
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Oh, good. I'm with you.
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Good. Yeah.
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Yeah, listen, I hope he lives his beautiful little dwarven
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dreams very far away from me. If I never hear that man's voice
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again, we're winning. So I'm really curious what
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that's going to look like, especially since it they're
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obviously still like they're still going to be a little
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goofy, right? There's like the collegiate
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calamity, which is the, you know, like, Oh no, they lost
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control of the magic room sort of vibe.
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So I'm curious what that's going to look like.
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I'm really curious what it's going to be like with Felira.
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So I'm, I'm beyond excited. Yeah, that tonal shift is
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something I hadn't really thought too much about.
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Maybe it'll make me like delves better.
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But still my favorite delve in the war within is actually when
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you have like the pink elephant acid trip delve.
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So yeah, I'm I'm interested in that.
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What about you, Sean? What's phase one got for you
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that you're interested in for? Me, it's going to be all about
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the story and quests. I don't spend a lot of time in
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retail and I, I will Midnight is launching the same way war with
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ended with that three day early access, which I know is a
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contentious subject. But for me it's great because it
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lets me enjoy that story, which I wouldn't normally otherwise
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have the opportunity to do. But I'm going to, I'm going to
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hopefully, if you know, we see alpha and I'm not against
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watching other people do it too. So I'll watch like Mr. GM.
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We all know Mr. GM is going to have alpha access.
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He is the alpha guy. I'll watch other people play
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through story and quests and stuff like that, but that's what
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I'm really looking forward to. The R Cantina I'm also
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interested in. I've heard some group think that
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it's kind of like an Ember court esque thing, but I would really
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like for it to be something more similar to the ecodomes that we
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have in Koresh, where we're using the R Cantina to cure the
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to heal the dread scar. And over time, you have to, you
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know, input these powers because because blood elves have banned
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the use of fell magic in in qual philas.
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So they're healing the the land in the area.
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I would love for the Argentina to be like a phased transition
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of you, the player helping to heal the Dread Scar and you
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know, potentially helping with the rebuild of Silver Moon, if
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that's possible. They may may not want that, but
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I would love for it to be like that.
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So I'm hoping that's what it is. But those are the things I'm
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most looking forward to. But it's called, I mean, I, I
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guess I, I, I'm really curious what it is too, especially
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because it's called the Art Cantina.
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And I feel like I should be able to like guess more from that
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because like, it's going to be a bar, right?
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Yeah, like I, I, I hear our cantina and I feel like it's
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like, you know, a cabana or like this, like, you know, of course
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the, the cantina we must. We might be pronouncing it wrong
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the right 'cause arcane, so it could be Arcana.
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Arcana. Arcana.
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Arcana. Arcana it.
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Might be. Shocked.
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Are you an arcana or an arcana? It's a.
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It's a lot. It's a lot to speculate on based
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on just a name. I think it could go a number of
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different ways. I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it as
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the different factions because they had put that as one of the
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end game sort of things activities, right?
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And that's not coming through until like phase five.
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Who knows? Who knows?
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I, I, I eventually got into the Ember court and it ended up
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being my favorite of those activities.
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So I could, I could go for that again.
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I just hope it has some depth. A lot of the activities, the end
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game activities that they've done as like, oh, this is for
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open world have been incredibly shallow And so I've gotten bored
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of them quite quickly. The you'd calling it like the
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Ember court gives me hope that it's got some depth to it, some
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sort of progression that I build out to stuff and I would like
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that a lot. Yeah, we'll see.
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I hated the Ember Court. I hated all those mini games.
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They were awful. I didn't I didn't like many of
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them, but the Ember court was was the exception.
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All right, go ahead, Lex. Sorry.
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Oh, not to spoil it, but I mean clearly it's something because
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there's another phase. Where is it?
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I just saw this 2 minutes ago. Yeah, on phase five, which is
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the last one, you're going to do the Argentina visitor quests.
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So like, it's, it's clearly chunky, right?
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Because not only are they testing it, they're testing two
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different parts of it at two different times.
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And I'm really curious about the fact that they haven't told us
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about this because they've told us about either.
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I'm forgetting something huge. And when it comes up and we're
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like, oh, it's that, right? Like, you know, I don't know
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something. No, but Prey is being tested
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separately. So kind of crazy that they're
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pulling out this little new thing that nobody's told us
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about. But I'm, I'm really curious
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about that. That could either be the biggest
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capital of nonsense, as Sean likes to say, or it could be
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like in absolutely mind blowing, like make a break for the for
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the expansion. So I'm I'm excited to learn what
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that's going to be. Yeah, considering we didn't hear
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about it at Gamescon, I'm, I'm worried that Sean might be
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right. This might be the flapjack of
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fuckery. Who knows what we're going to
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get on this, but we'll see. We'll see.
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Like I guess we should try and be optimistic, OK?
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Why change now? Why?
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All right, going into phase two, phase two starts the next week,
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that's October 9th through to the 12th.
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That'll be unlocking going up from 83 to 88.
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This will be in the Zulaman zone.
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The dungeons will be the Den of Nalarac and the Mycera Kevin's.
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For dungeons, we've got the delves of Twilight Crypts and
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Atal Amon, and that's going to be the next week again.
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Getting up to 88 is going to unlock a lot more talents, make
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you feel a lot, a lot stronger. And when you're going through
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those zones, of course, that means of that.
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There's the more stories and everything there.
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With Zolomon, it can be the second or the 1st or the 3rd.
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You can do those in any order, as well as what we saw in week
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one with the Ever Song Woods and with Air Thor's story.
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Those are all things you can do in any order.
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But this week they're going to be focusing on Solomon.
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The Solomon appeal to you guys out of all the zones.
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Like I know a lot of people are loving this re exploration of
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the Ever Song Woods, but I like my troll stuff.
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I got to say. What about you Sean?
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You like trolls or you? This is like the least like
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lovely week for you. No, Zulaman has good memories
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for me from Burning Crusade. So is it Burning Crusade?
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Yeah. So I'm looking forward to going
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back and seeing the differences, seeing how it evolves.
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I would. I really hope that we get, I
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mean, you use the term depth earlier to describe the
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Argentina, but I hope we get some depth and it's not just
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trolls bad players good and that it expands a little bit more.
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That would be really nice to see.
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I'm a little weirded out by the orc body type trolls, so we'll
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see how how I digest those. But I'm I'm excited for this.
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The dungeons as well. I didn't mention it in phase
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one, but dungeons. I'll be looking forward to doing
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dungeons in phase two. I really like the phased roll
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out of the alpha because it really focuses testing in
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certain areas that need it and allows them to get that feedback
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hopefully and and put it in. They just need to make sure they
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invite a lot of people because it'll be really bad if the zones
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are just dead. Honestly, I think part of what
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makes the testing on the alpha better is because they have
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these concentrated phases. Usually when you have people
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getting invited to beta and alpha, they jump on.
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They kind of test what they're like, whatever is the new shiny
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stuff, and then they fall off. If there's something new each
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week, it kind of pulls more people back.
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I'm not saying not everybody's going to be back, but it does.
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It does keep the things fresh for a while.
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They do get that focus the testing, especially early on so
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that they can make changes in the adaptations.
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And then of course, once they get later on and finally things
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are 90 and like you can unlock the full power of your
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character, that's when everybody is going to jump back in and be
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like, OK, do warriors suck? Where's my cleave and so forth
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and all of that. Lex, what about you?
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What? What does Solomon have that
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intrigues you? Yeah, so honestly, I am just
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because it wasn't the lore that I was super into when I started
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the game, I'm, I don't have like super strong feelings about
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either trolls or frankly, blood elves.
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Which is not to say that I'm not excited.
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It's just like, it's not like I'm sitting here like, Oh my
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God. Like I've been waiting for
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Solomon to be expanded upon forever, but I think it'll be
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cool. I do have some faith in in
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Blizzard Storytelling has expanded significantly in the
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last few years. And I think the trolls are one
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place where if we're going to have more complex like depth and
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exploration, I do think that's one race that really does need
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to be re explored and dug into. And I do think the Blizzard's
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been doing a pretty good job of going back over kind of sore
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points and places that maybe could have been a little bit
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more thoughtful when being written in original lore and
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making it better. And what's not to say that they
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haven't done a chunk of that with trolls in general, But I, I
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am expecting good things. I, I am expecting that they kind
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of understand that there is something to show to us as
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players that they've learned over time.
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So I think this is going to be I, I, I think it's going to be
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cool. I, I don't really know where
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it's going to go because I don't have a huge depth of
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understanding of troll lore, so I can't be like, oh, and
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obviously XYZ is going to come out, but I'm, I think it's going
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to be fun. I think it's going to be cool to
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explore. I I don't have the exact faith
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that you guys do. We talked a little bit about it
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when we were talking about the Arathi Highlands and sort of how
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they tripped up there in my eyes.
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But this is another bite at that apple.
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I guess we'll see if it goes out better this time.
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Then we move on to phase three. Phase 3 is October 13th through
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to the 19th. Again, it's going to be level 83
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to 88 because you can do these zones in any order.
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For this one, Eversong Woods is coming back again and we have
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Harandar, the home of the Harandar.
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For the dungeons, it's going to be just the Blinding Veil.
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For Delves, we'll have the Grudge Pit and the Gulf of
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Memories. And then for phase three, we
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also have the UI for the encounter warnings.
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This is something that I'm excited for.
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Encounter warnings is one thing that I think is big for, of
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course, their entire changing of how restricted the API is, but
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also I want to see how backwards compatible it is.
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Like, is this something that they have put in a way that they
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have to go back through every fight to add it one at a time?
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Or is this something that it's just going to go forward and
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work with stuff? And it's just sort of like Sean
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and I had had the conversation before, like is it something
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where when they make a change, they have to go back in and be
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like, OK, we have to update the encounter warnings to do that?
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Or is it something that's baked in enough that when you make a
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change, the encounter warnings change along with it?
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I'm interested to see this. This is going to be their first
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introduction since they've said a lot of nice words about how
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they're going to be doing better with it with UI adjustments.
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So this, this landing better on 1st blush is something I'm
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hoping for, but something I'm anxious about I guess.
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John, go ahead. I have heard from reliable
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sources that it will not be backwards compatible out of the
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gate and that there is a large group at Blizzard who wants to
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push for it to be live at the launch of Midnight with old AP
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is immediately turned off so that everyone is on the new UI
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encounter warnings. This feels like the worst case
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scenario. It not being launched.
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I have heard that there is. So there is.
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The the rumor I have heard is that there is currently
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discussions being had where one contingent is saying no, we need
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to have both active at the same time and the other is saying
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it's a clean slate, it's a new expansion, just RIP the Band-Aid
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off. And the ones who make the
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decisions are the ones that are pushing for the thing that I
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don't want. I am very worried also because
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it's not coming out till phase three.
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We will have done four sets of dungeons and five delves before
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with with no encounter warnings at all.
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Now they'll be normal so it won't be so bad.
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You'll be able to figure it out but it doesn't come back in the
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five week. Also, where did the dates come
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from? You've set dates for all of
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these? I don't remember seeing the
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date. I I must be missing content?
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The dates were not specifically outlined, but the dates were
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easily figured out by based on each phase being a week.
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The initial put through. So I just, I just put it in
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because those dates seem very important and you should just
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put them out there. Yeah, because you're smarter
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than I am. You figured it out.
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You're bot farmers, don't think of that.
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But with add-ons available from the get go, that means that
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people are likely to like bring in whatever they can code and
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makeshift in. So by the time this goes live on
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week three, I suspect that the add-ons will have a rough usage.
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Now remember these dungeons are coming in and then being taken
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out on the same the same week. So we're going to get maybe days
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of testing with like whichever add on had the developer lose
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sleep to get it up and running. And so they're not going to be
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in the best cases. It'll be cool to see the the
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differences between the Blizzard one and the homegrown mods that
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we're used to. And then on week 5, we should
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see it all working. Now, if they're going to make
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this push, I would suspect that they're going to allow the
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overlap at least in the alpha and the beta, and hopefully
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they're going to look at what players do and make a more
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informed decision based on that. But from where I'm standing, I'm
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on Shawn's side, I think that they need live time where there
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is overlap and see what is forcing people to to like say
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no, I need my add on and what causes people to say, oh, I
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don't need this add on anymore and drop it.
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And based on that, honestly, it's adoption.
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It's an adoption rate based on that adoption rate and based on
24:24
why that adoption rate turns out to be what it is.
24:27
That should inform what fixes they should do and then they
24:32
should turn it off. And I don't think they should
24:35
think that they just know better than the combined total of their
24:38
player mass and just go with the fresh start and have the the
24:42
game possibly suffer because of it.
24:46
I totally hear you guys and I think I am on your side, but I
24:49
do like to be fair, I am kind of sympathetic to the devs that
24:52
like you're always going to go with the thing, you know, right.
24:56
Like I, of course, if everyone's comfortable with DVM and bigwigs
24:59
like, yeah, they'd rather, you know, like if you're going to
25:02
give them a choice, they're going to stick with the one that
25:04
they've been working with for years.
25:06
I, I do I, I, I agree. I think it would be better if
25:08
there's overlap but I I don't I kind of doubt the adoption rate
25:11
is going to be high until they pull the trigger right?
25:14
Unless they do things like actively hide things from DVM
25:17
and DVM and big wigs. So there's has to be better,
25:19
which would be a little bit weird of them.
25:24
And honestly, I also maybe you 2 disagree.
25:27
I'm feeling very encouraged from the fact that they're putting it
25:29
in as early as the alpha, right? So there will be a ton of
25:33
testing. You know, Manny was saying like,
25:34
oh, we, we do need to make sure. Like I hope it releases better,
25:37
but like kind of it's allowed to suck here.
25:39
I mean, I guess it depends on how much the the World of
25:42
Warcraft player base decides to panic, right?
25:45
Like, because on the one hand, it's alpha, everything's
25:48
supposed to suck a little, a little bit, right?
25:49
If if you're looking at alpha and you're like, well, this
25:51
sucks and then you panic and you refuse to use it.
25:53
I mean, alpha, right? This is, this is suck phase.
25:57
This is bad phase. Maybe beta, you can be like,
26:00
it's crappy and now I'm freaking out a little bit.
26:02
But is is this not suck phase? I'm going to pass it to Sean
26:06
first. The cooldown manager was on the
26:08
PTR for 8 weeks and exactly 0 of the feedback was listened to
26:14
when it went live, and then it was left in that state for an
26:17
entire patch cycle. Oh, fair.
26:18
If they so if, if, if they put it on the alpha and choose not
26:21
to benefit from that, that which, and I hear you, they have
26:25
a history of doing that. So I and I, I, I really, I don't
26:28
mean to be like dismissive. First of all, I do agree.
26:30
I would rather that they put it out together.
26:33
And I also don't mean to be dismissive of the fact that
26:35
like, yeah, they, you know, you make vibes based on history.
26:40
And historically they haven't really been great at UI changes.
26:44
It is only appearing in the in the alpha phase once in week 3
26:49
and then not coming back in the the final weeks after.
26:53
No, no. Once it's introduced in there,
26:56
it should follow through in the in the further phases, right?
27:01
It's. Just the zones go away.
27:02
Yes, the zones go away, but systems don't.
27:05
It's like they have, they have talents that you can access and
27:10
they don't. Those talents don't disappear in
27:12
future weeks. You still have access to them.
27:14
All the systems still carry through.
27:16
It's the. It's the content that you're
27:18
testing. I thought I remembered
27:20
professions only being testable in their specific profession
27:23
weeks in war within, but maybe I'm wrong.
27:26
No, they were, they were testable all the way through.
27:29
OK, OK. Then great.
27:30
Week 3 is great. I would love to see week 1.
27:33
Can we bump it up two weeks? Are we waiting two weeks?
27:37
Because it's not. I dislike that it's being
27:40
introduced in the same week that there's only one dungeon.
27:43
Like multiple dungeons would have been the best week to
27:46
introduce it. Regardless, that brings us to
27:49
phase four. Sorry, go ahead, Lex or.
27:52
I was going to say, I kind of I, I will actually say looking at
27:54
this a second time, I'm a little bit on Sean's side, which is I
27:57
think it's not done. I think they only have it
27:59
written for blinding bail. That's, I mean, if if I had to
28:03
choose to only release it with one dungeon, I'm a little SUS.
28:08
I I'm historically a little SUS of where they're at with
28:10
midnight with midnights right now.
28:12
But that actually when Sean says that I am now a little bit on
28:16
the, IT maybe is not at the right place.
28:18
Like that Apple keynote that Steve Jobs gave and they
28:22
couldn't actually do the demo so they just played a video.
28:27
I'm I'm actually on the other end of this.
28:31
I think that these UI warnings were stuff that they had the
28:34
technology set up before this point.
28:40
And then it's just maybe it's about scripting and the fact
28:44
that they're like, yeah, it's not going backwards that it is
28:47
going to be script scripted going forwards from this.
28:52
I, I think it's a little sad. Maybe it's just let's test this,
28:56
make sure the hooks are work, working, and then they just
28:59
activate it on all of them. So that's why it's it's focused
29:03
on one. But again, I'm not a software
29:06
engineer, I'm not a developer who knows?
29:10
But I will echo what you did say, Sean, which is they put the
29:14
stuff out for testing. And it seems like the large ship
29:19
that is World of Warcraft development has a very hard time
29:23
correcting course even when they're given clear feedback,
29:27
which is just another reason not to just try for that clean
29:32
slate, allow the issues to be addressed and then shut it down.
29:39
That brings us to phase four. Phase 4 takes us into the void
29:44
storm. And the void storm is the final
29:48
leveling zone of this expansion, at least as.
29:53
Yeah, final leveling zone of this expansion.
29:55
You don't get additional leveling zones when they bring
29:57
out new tears, and that means that we're going from 88 through
30:03
to the level cap of 90. The dungeons in here are Nexus
30:08
Point, Zanis, Void Scar Arena, and Magisters Terrace being
30:13
redone and reimagined. I really looking forward to
30:17
seeing how exactly they do that because Magisters terrace was a
30:20
large BC dungeon and then they shortened it a lot when they
30:28
redid it for time walking. Anyways, for delves we have Sun
30:34
Killer Sanctum and we have the Shadow guard point for PvP.
30:41
This is when the PvP testing comes in and we've got the
30:44
Slayer's Rise PvP zone and the 40 V 40 Epic Battleground
30:50
version of Slayer's Rise. Finally, we have Apex talents
30:57
only in phase four, which makes me go like, I guess this is
31:04
something you unlock when you hit Max level, which all right,
31:10
I kind of wish that that wasn't the case 'cause they're not
31:14
adding any other new talents to your to your specialization
31:20
tree, which means as you level up, you're just filling gaps and
31:24
then having to like pull them out and put them back into this.
31:27
That seems very awkward if that is the case here.
31:33
What about you guys? Let's start with you Lex, this
31:35
time phase four. What's interesting you here?
31:41
I'm really excited with the Void Storm.
31:42
I am curious what she's going to how how she's going to be.
31:48
I'm I'm just like in in general. I'm I'm also curious how many
31:52
people do they invite to the alpha if they can test A40V40
31:56
battleground? Yeah.
32:00
Brawl with the Blues on that week, most likely just to really
32:04
bring people in, be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come, come, brawl
32:06
with the Blues. I think some people who don't
32:09
normally PvP might be interested with that kind of carrot for,
32:13
and that's typically how they get that going.
32:16
Just like here's a good night, let's do it at this time and
32:20
then people jump in to play in a very, again, focused testing.
32:25
Wait, I have a stupid what is Brawl with the Blues?
32:30
Devs login and play. Oh, I thought it was like
32:33
Alliance and I would anywhere. OK, yeah, OK, that actually that
32:36
would be very cool. And now?
32:38
My chance of pedophilias. Yeah, let's do it.
32:42
I was like, wow, they're only inviting Hordy.
32:46
You'll be a horde man to get into the alpha.
32:49
Yeah. The only take away I have from
32:51
phase 4 is that I spent three weeks complaining about the lack
32:55
of Pve stuff to test and PvP players don't get anything for a
32:59
month. There will be open roll PvP
33:03
testing. You're right the that there
33:06
isn't like the specific things going here.
33:10
But until you hit level 90, why are we bouncing PvP so?
33:16
Drew, good point. Good point.
33:17
Yeah, I think that's that's why it got delayed.
33:19
Yes, unfortunately if you're a PvP player your bread and butter
33:22
focuses aren't there until we hit hit cap.
33:26
Even with this week, pre made characters would still be the
33:31
way to go. And I don't believe you're going
33:33
to see pre made in phase four actually.
33:36
So there's going to be a weird limitation of who's got a 90
33:40
ready to ball with the Blues at this time, and that seems odd to
33:44
me. Yeah, I agree with you that Apex
33:47
talents, I'm hoping that this is just a an artifact of the
33:51
testing where Apex talents are unlocking in the the week that
33:55
we get 88 to 90. It is it is going to feel
33:57
really, really terrible levelling to 90.
34:00
Granted, that's only going to take 4 hours, but it's going to
34:02
feel really bad for those four hours having to jam points in
34:06
random spots for no reason. Let me start using those Apex
34:09
talents right away so that I can enjoy my 4 hours levelling to
34:14
90. It's going to be so fast.
34:17
Yeah, at the end of it it's going to be a short pain, but
34:20
it's just awkward and feels easily avoidable.
34:24
Yeah, OK. Phase five, the last phase of
34:29
the alpha that looks to be coming on October 21st through
34:33
to the 27th and that is going to be level 90.
34:37
This is this is when they'll most likely have the ability for
34:42
you to create some pre made. All of the week 1 to 4 content
34:47
will return, which means you can start a fresh character level
34:51
all the way through the campaign.
34:52
Instead of having these start at 83 and then go through to 88 and
34:56
not be able to go past that level.
34:59
The level 90 campaign will be unlocked.
35:04
That's your end game campaign and that'll be chapter one.
35:08
We don't know how many chapters there are, but if it is like The
35:12
War Within, that's going to be 5 chapters.
35:16
The as we talked about before, our Cantina or our Cantina
35:22
visitor quests will be Arcantina.
35:26
Arcantina. I'm going to have to rename this
35:28
episode to Arcantina. The Arcantina visitor quests are
35:33
going to be unlocked and you'll get that for this unknown
35:38
activity. Weekly quest will become
35:41
available. Does anybody test weekly quest
35:44
on the on the PTR slash alpha? That's something that.
35:48
I, Mr. GM will oh Dan, Dan is Dan tests everything.
35:51
If you're looking honestly, if you don't have AA access and you
35:55
want to see the best alpha footage with I mean obviously
36:00
nobody knows for sure, but I have no doubt in my mind Dan's
36:02
going to have access to the alpha.
36:05
It would be foolish for him not to be wave 1.
36:07
He is the goat, one of the top go to like sources for alpha
36:10
coverage. So every cycle.
36:13
So just go to his channel. Yeah, he'll test weekly quest
36:17
there. You go, I'll wait for like a
36:19
blur from Wowhead or something. I don't, I don't really care.
36:25
Then of course delves, they will have Torments Rise and the
36:31
Shadow Enclave being tested. The prey system that we talked
36:35
about earlier that will be available for testing and then a
36:40
bunch of level 90 activities including Abundance, Legends of
36:46
the Herrenar, the Stormarian Citadel, the Amani Abyss, and
36:52
for my Co host that were reading along with me, I'm going to
36:54
attempt to pronounce this Sothereals soiree.
36:59
Sotherel. OK.
37:03
Which could also be an Embercord.
37:05
That sounds soiree feels very embercord.
37:09
We know. We know that these we all know.
37:13
Yeah, they were all announced. The Soi, Yeah.
37:14
That's the. Like I'm sorry guys, I don't
37:17
believe I've heard of the soiree the abundance.
37:19
We know that's the go into caves and mine mine stuff or fish
37:24
stuff or whatever gathering profession it's themed off of.
37:27
The legends is the lore based one and we know about that.
37:30
The Stromarian, sorry Stromarian Citadel is help the void elves
37:35
guard their void anchors as such right?
37:39
The Amani Abyss I'm blanking on, but I don't know the soiree so
37:47
let's hopefully you've done some quick little Kung Fu.
37:50
Yeah, that one is the reputation one that we were talking about a
37:54
while ago where we were like, oh, do we think this is going to
37:56
be like a Schreyer Andor thing? Because I specifically talked
38:00
about Burning Crusade, but nobody really wants it to be a
38:02
Schreyer Andor thing, especially with the war bound.
38:04
It was it was that one. I think they might I I also
38:07
needed to Google the name to be completely.
38:10
Honest. And the the Amani thing I
38:12
remember, but I'm like I, I, I, I it's not showing up on the
38:15
article that I definitely didn't Google 2 minutes ago.
38:18
I I mean, honestly, I know that's wasn't in here because of
38:22
the number and I knew how many had been talked about before
38:26
Amani abyss because like each of them were themed after a zone,
38:31
right. So in the in the void storm, you
38:34
had the citadel in Heronar or Heron Dar.
38:39
Sorry, you had the Legends of the Heronar and the abundance
38:42
wasn't with all of the different zones in.
38:45
I guess the Soiree is ever song, right?
38:50
So then we've got additional ones that I don't believe were
38:55
mentioned before. Yeah, I'm having a lot of
38:58
trouble finding. I feel like I remember talking
39:01
about an Imani 1 though on the episode we were talking about
39:03
all of this. I'm going to go back to our show
39:05
notes because I feel like I remember this very deeply.
39:07
The Imani legends of the herin are right and the lower of
39:11
abundance sending you to different places.
39:13
That's both, Imani. OK, so then I think that I am
39:16
wrong. I think this is new cuz I did
39:17
feel like there was one extra. So yeah, I guess there's a
39:24
couple things we haven't heard of that they're testing.
39:26
Yeah. And of course, that leaves the
39:28
last thing professions, sparks. So this is the end game sort of
39:32
thing. I wonder why the spark stuff is
39:36
being tested. I know that it's changed over
39:38
the course of the War Within. Some people don't like that it
39:41
started. It suddenly started costing you
39:43
like 250 valor to like combine the sparks.
39:47
And then those same people are like, Valor's worthless.
39:50
Why do you even give me valor? Sorry I know Venn diagram not
39:55
all of ASB but like it just feels like people complain no
39:58
matter what. I don't know I.
40:01
Think it's because they're changing professions to no
40:03
longer have the lower two tiers where everything now is just the
40:10
top 2 tiers or the top three tiers.
40:11
They're removing the 2 lower qualities, so maybe they want to
40:14
test and see how that looks. And Sparks, I got to be honest,
40:17
just get with, get rid of all of them.
40:18
No, I don't know anybody who's walking around in a rank four
40:22
piece of equipment like that's. I don't know anybody even back
40:25
in like week one, Week 2. Know them, you just don't
40:29
inspect them, you talk to them yeah, they're they they're
40:32
they're a little secret they're. Like, are they in the room with
40:34
us? Right now they're not in the
40:35
room with us right now. I, I refuse to believe Lex would
40:39
splurge for a rank four and not go to her rank 5.
40:42
But I guarantee you there are people right that like would be
40:47
like, I'm not paying that amount and they're like, OK, fine, I'll
40:51
go with the rank four. There are people who are
40:53
particular about their expenses, but I feel like Lex, I'm talking
40:58
for you. So you just tell me if I'm
40:59
wrong. I feel like if somebody was
41:00
crafting something for you, they're going to tell you, get
41:02
me this, this, this, this. They're going to give you the
41:05
list, right? You're going to get them.
41:07
You're not going to, you're not going to look at at options and
41:12
they're going to make you the rank 5.
41:15
That is, in fact, precisely what happens.
41:19
Hey guys, I think I'm supposed to get this crafted.
41:21
Can anyone do it and they tell me what to do?
41:24
Send us this. Send us this, and if they want
41:27
to push their concentration and push it, push it through rank 5,
41:31
they probably say, oh, you don't need to get this.
41:33
If they can't get the spirit of concentration, they're going to
41:36
say get this rank. And that's just how it's going
41:39
to be crafted for a lot of people.
41:41
I'm just using Lex as an example here.
41:44
I I don't, OK, I don't like the ranking system in anything.
41:48
I don't like the fact that there's different ranks of like
41:51
herbs and and stuff. I don't, I just, I miss when it
41:55
was just you just you get the thing and you do, you do you
41:58
craft the thing and it's crafted and it's and there it is.
42:01
She's there. You crafted it.
42:04
I think that when you did not have ranks of stuff, there were
42:10
two things. One was that it was very hard
42:13
for them to make a crafted item that would be valid for mythic
42:17
Raiders that wouldn't utterly eclipse everything that a normal
42:23
Raider could do right. The being able to give it a
42:27
delta, a difference is helpful. There's also the fact that
42:33
people who are doing professions, being able to like
42:36
be good at a profession. If, if it went back to the way
42:40
it was before, it was simply somebody would spend like a
42:44
couple hours in the evening levelling up their whatever
42:48
profession and then they would just flood the market with that.
42:51
So anything that was like desirable immediately tanked
42:55
because there was nothing that like pushed it to be good.
43:00
And then the other part is I hated in Dragonflight where
43:04
there were particular, particular recipes that were
43:08
very hard to come by. And if you got it first, you
43:11
made all the money. And that would be just utterly
43:16
compounded if rank didn't matter.
43:18
And at least, hey, this person can only make so much at this
43:21
rank. Now somebody else gets their
43:23
their turn at the their bite at the apple.
43:26
I'm using that thing again. That's fair.
43:30
I'll accept that. I guess the thing that I don't
43:33
really engage with because I'm a pure gatherer, I guess you guys
43:36
can have it however you want. I would just like to stop
43:39
tailoring the game to the 97%, OK?
43:47
You can just switch to leather working, Shawn.
43:49
Nobody's making you tail. I'm taking that out of context
43:51
and that's becoming the cold eye opener.
43:59
Then, based on all that math, that means that the earliest we
44:03
might see the beta is October 28th.
44:07
The beta coming out at October 28th does not mean that
44:13
everybody who has pre-ordered gets invited immediately.
44:16
Do not come with your pitchforks, with your torches,
44:20
with your devourers. You won't have devourers because
44:22
you're not on the beta and say it didn't, I didn't get in
44:27
October 28th. What the hell, Sean?
44:30
Don't. Don't do that.
44:31
I think they did for War Within. I'm pretty sure everybody who
44:36
had the beta preorder got in that day.
44:38
I'm pretty sure it's a it's a good chance.
44:40
I I would say that likely. I just want to cover my bases so
44:44
that people are not coming after me.
44:47
Well, listen to your beta purchasers.
44:49
I'm telling you, you're getting in day one.
44:50
And if you didn't come on over to day one launches, if you
44:54
don't have the beta and you bought it, come over to bit dot
44:56
LY slash fast Discord, let us know, give us your B net ID and
45:01
password and we'll make sure that you get it.
45:03
OK so 2nd reminder be of worry of phishing scams.
45:07
Yeah, for legal reasons, that was a joke.
45:15
Oh, man. OK.
45:18
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45:28
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46:11
That was great. OK, All right.
46:15
Now ahead of the midnight Alpha and everything we just covered,
46:20
we are getting a deep dive and AQ and A, there will be a deep
46:25
dive that features Chris Metzen, the creative director, and game
46:30
director Ian Hasikostis. This broadcast is going to be at
46:36
noon Eastern, 9:00 AM in Pacific, or if you're over in
46:41
the UK, that is 5:00 PM. Immediately after this, there's
46:48
going to be a midnight Q&A, which is going to be hosted by
46:52
Randy Jordan with, again, Game Director Ian Hazekosis,
46:56
Associate Game Director Paul Cubitt, and the Design Director
47:01
Maria Hamilton. So this is going to be giving
47:04
everybody information about the story, the mechanics and
47:08
everything there before, of course, the alpha releases the
47:12
next day. So we will 100% be covering this
47:15
as soon as we can. And I'm interested.
47:23
I'm interested in it, but I also hate that they put AQ and A out
47:28
before the alpha so all of our questions are gonna be like from
47:32
a place of supreme ignorance versus what how much more well
47:36
informed we would be literally 24 hours later it feels.
47:42
Like it would make sense to sandwich it right?
47:44
You start with the deep dive, you give people alpha, end of
47:47
the alpha before you start the beta, you give AQ and A and and
47:52
then you get people height before they go into the alpha.
47:55
And then you answer people's questions after they've been
47:58
doing free labor for you. Yeah.
48:00
Yeah. I'm excited.
48:02
Randy Jordan is Kyvax, right? That is Kyvax and like show
48:06
favorite community manager Kyvax.
48:08
That's his title, right? Community.
48:09
Manager show favorite community manager Kyvax.
48:11
Yeah, TM, I'm very excited. That's going to be a great,
48:14
great show. Great Q and AI would like to
48:17
have it after when we can ask real questions.
48:19
But hey, you know what I'm looking forward to all the
48:21
questions that that we send. We used to do kind of do a quick
48:25
sidebar from my time in the Navy.
48:27
Sure. We oh he has his own podcast
48:31
films. Yeah, he used to be on the
48:33
instance. When he started working for
48:35
Blizzard, he could no longer do a podcast about video games,
48:38
especially about World of Warcraft.
48:40
He continued working with with Scott Johnson on Film Sack.
48:46
No shit after watching film sack anyway.
48:51
When we were in the Navy we used to have town halls and they
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would at the end they would open it up for questions and some
48:56
people would ask really good questions that were relevant to
48:58
everyone and then some people would ask ultra specific
49:00
questions that were only relevant to them and didn't
49:02
matter to anyone else. I desperately hope that this Q&A
49:05
doesn't turn into that. Some elemental shaman gets
49:08
something is like there's a bug when you use Farsir talents and
49:12
send lava burst at the same time as a sentence is rocking, then
49:16
it doesn't actually spread your lava bursts.
49:18
Will you be addressing that? We don't want those types of
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questions. Everybody just asked them.
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We're going to cross region. Everybody asked this with the
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question that I want. Right.
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That's right. OK.
49:30
Don't worry elemental shamans, your bugs will get fixed.
49:32
You go back to bottom damage next year, No?
49:35
It won't, but I still agree with Sean please.
49:39
Like OK one we have in the show notes a link to where you can
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submit these questions. 2 There's already a ton of
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questions and they're being pre filtered.
49:50
If you ask a very hyper specific question, your chances of it
49:55
being answered are next to nil. It might go up as a final
50:01
question just because Randy wanted to annoy a developer, and
50:06
even then you're not going to get the answer.
50:10
Oh man, how do we get kyvax to ask across region?
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So there's a link in the show notes, Sean.
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I already filled that out. I already wrote it in there.
50:21
Oh, can you only do one? No.
50:22
You can submit multiple. Go to the Reddit thread.
50:24
I'll put the link to the Reddit thread and you can submit.
50:27
That feels that feels weird. I think my question should be
50:30
chosen on its own merit and the fact that it's something that so
50:35
many people want. I don't know anybody who doesn't
50:36
want cross region. I literally.
50:38
I wake up in the morning and I'm like I I don't know how to go
50:41
about my day because I don't have cross region yet.
50:43
Oh, you, I thought you were going to say you don't want it
50:45
for a second. I was.
50:47
I was getting rid of the fight. Collect.
50:49
Well, if you recall, Epidemi is in the UK and like I don't want
50:54
to be out Sean. So like if I keep stay off in my
50:56
own little pool I could be a big fish.
51:01
I think cross region will be insane.
51:05
I know I've fought against it before saying how crazy it would
51:09
be but just think about how that would change up recruitment and
51:17
rating. Like you would have to have the
51:19
raid open at the same time if cross regions also available,
51:23
right? The teams themselves would then,
51:26
because how could you be cross region if you're in incompatible
51:29
versions of the game? It just it could not work that
51:31
way. It yeah, I guess you could just
51:35
make it so that you can't play cross region when you're in
51:37
incompatible versions of the game.
51:39
It feels like a weird thing of doing.
51:41
It feels like cross region to not do cross region.
51:45
Don't let us queue for LFR now if we're in cross faction groups
51:51
so they can obviously just turn it off or something they don't
51:53
want. So then the if that were to
51:56
happen, and this is again weird thing, if that were to happen,
51:59
everybody in EU or whatever connected region would make an
52:03
NA account so that they would always get access earlier.
52:07
There would be no reason to have an EU account, you would just be
52:10
delaying your access. Didn't just release it all on
52:14
the same day, OK. You're right, you press a.
52:17
Button You press a button and then and then it's here we're.
52:20
Inside track. Separately, we got to focus on
52:23
the main thing here. We need cross region now.
52:27
I'm going to unsubscribe to Disney until they give us cross
52:29
region. The Internet told me that's how
52:32
it works. Stop paying Disney, you get what
52:34
you want. I separate conversation OK, so
52:41
make sure you submit your questions guys.
52:43
It'll be crazy if we get some some of the things that people
52:47
are going to wish list and throw in.
52:49
I doubt those questions will actually make it to the ears of
52:52
the developers. From there, we also got just hot
52:56
off the press. Just released today, PC Gamer
53:00
put out the details of the Midnight Physical Collector's
53:05
edition. And so this edition contains all
53:09
the goodies that you get with the digital Epic edition.
53:12
That includes the three day access, the 30 days of game
53:16
time, and then all the digital goodies like the tenders and the
53:21
transmog and the mountain, yadda yadda yadda, right?
53:24
But for physical bonuses, it also contains A hardcover art
53:29
book that looks so good, the collector's pin, which is a nice
53:35
little thing as well. And the piece of the resistance,
53:39
a replica of the dark heart, which in a still photo looks
53:44
amazing. But my good.
53:46
I hope it's filled with like you know how they have the 8th ball
53:49
and they have the sparkles? I hope it's just filled with
53:51
that so I can just shake it. And then the little face comes
53:54
up and it's just sounds at me like no or ask again later.
53:57
That's what I want out of this thing.
54:00
I just want it to be a magic 8 ball.
54:03
Just to be a hater, I I will say I'm looking at this picture
54:06
right now and it could either be so sick or it could be so dinky.
54:10
Like if they I don't know what swears I can say on this.
54:14
If they half bought this, it's going to be a a damn tragedy.
54:18
Like if this is just like a like a like a printed picture that
54:22
they put in. Oh God no.
54:23
Very sad. I would be, I would be highly
54:27
upset if this is like it's just a pretty like I'm I'm yeah, and.
54:31
And and like, look, it won't we have the yeah, they're usually
54:34
stunning. They're going to hold.
54:37
Bucket. I don't think they were supposed
54:40
to release that article yet because they.
54:42
Took down. They took down the thing whoops.
54:46
Sorry PC Gamer. However, your loss is my gain
54:50
because now it's out there and we can talk about it.
54:53
And luckily I already grabbed the picture off of the article
54:56
so it and it's out there on Twitter and everything so.
54:59
Are you not just a little bit upset that they're only giving
55:01
us a replica of the Dark Heart and not the real thing?
55:03
I'm. Going to pass this one to.
55:06
X Yeah, I want to take over. I want to summon dementias.
55:09
He seems fun. I can't take credit.
55:12
I can't take credit for that. That was from Lo Fi Banshee
55:15
Jordan on Twitter. She tweeted that and absolute
55:20
giga giga blast. It was such a good tweet.
55:24
The only way I will accept this as a half but effort is if it is
55:30
actually a Magic 8 ball. Then I just think it's hilarious
55:34
and I'll love it. That would be very fun.
55:39
Anyways, yes, it does look like the article's down.
55:44
We will still put the picture in the show notes for anybody who
55:47
wants to look at the glory that it is.
55:50
And of course, you could definitely find it on the
55:52
Internet. Once it's on the Internet, you
55:54
can't get it off the Internet. Does this seem like a
55:57
collector's edition that you guys want?
55:58
I will say for those who are asking, this thing will set you
56:02
back $140 USD and your shipping wherever it'll ship, whatever
56:08
shipping will be for us poor poor people in little old
56:13
backwater. Ontario, Canada shipping for the
56:16
last one set me back $100 if I wanted to ship it, so I I'm
56:22
sorry I would not purchase a collector's edition for with
56:26
that kind of shipping cost. Because Manny, I was looking to
56:30
order a lyre from Romania and the shipping was $35.
56:33
That's that's real nice. I don't want to make you have to
56:37
be a liar, but the the the shipping cost for this was
56:40
quite, quite expensive. I mean, I didn't OK, I did not
56:46
pay for my collection edition. This was a wonderful gift from
56:48
Blizzard. I did look because I was like,
56:51
oh, I wonder how much that would because, you know, cool statue
56:55
and all of that. The weight of the statue
56:58
definitely contributed to it. And this thing does not look
57:02
like it would weigh anywhere near as much maybe at best half
57:07
the weight. And I think that's even
57:08
stretching it. So I doubt the shipping is going
57:11
to be as bad, but again, depending on where you're
57:15
ordering from and where it's being shipped from, your mileage
57:18
may vary. I don't currently own any
57:22
collector's editions, this will not be the first.
57:26
This will not be the first OK. It's gorgeous, it looks
57:29
beautiful. Like the cost is just for I'm I
57:33
used to have when my brother and I were part of another
57:39
community, a retro gaming community.
57:40
I had a, an entire room in my house did like dedicated to
57:45
retro video games and it was wall to wall games, consoles,
57:51
paraphernalia, custom built cases for figurines.
57:57
And it was a lot And I stopped. I I at one point I sold
58:03
everything and I was just like, I can't just continue to amass
58:08
things. Also how I don't know how to
58:11
dust that stuff. I even have figures behind me
58:13
now where I don't they're packed, but I did that.
58:16
I I don't know how do I like what do I do to dust these?
58:19
It gets so dusty. It's just simple, you just take
58:23
a cloth and wipe it down. It's.
58:27
Where you put up like really high and then like, how is
58:30
everyone going to know? Yeah.
58:34
All right. OK, I guess so.
58:35
I guess so or you get like one of those dusters.
58:39
I'm I'm sure like they they they got the Swiffer hand dusters
58:41
now. If I call Anjali my duster,
58:43
she's going to leave me. My goodness.
58:50
So that's going to be it for us tonight friends.
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If you have any questions, do join us in the discord.
58:57
Obviously, we're going to be very hyped going into the Q&A
59:04
and this this entire preview stuff, we're going to be
59:09
crossing our fingers hoping that we can get as much into the
59:13
alpha and as many things as answers we can for you guys.
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So do stay tuned for the next for Azrof.
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But until next time guys, may all your hits be quits.