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The Late Debate | 15 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, welcome the late play.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Megan Markel claims she is a victim all over again.
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  Speaker 2: What's new? Will bring you that a little later.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, when we look at the papers, the Albanezy government
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  Speaker 3: blasted for its bid to bring a first Nations approach
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  Speaker 3: to foreign policy, I'm sure that'll work great in the
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  Speaker 3: Middle East, and the Victorian State government under fire as
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  Speaker 3: it tries to fix the housing crisis only to make
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  Speaker 3: matters worse. We'll get to all of that a bit later.
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  Speaker 3: But do you remember back in November, the albanesey government
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  Speaker 3: told us they planned to bring eight hundred guards and
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  Speaker 3: refugees to Australia. We later learned it was well over
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  Speaker 3: one thousand, and more recently we understood it's closer to
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  Speaker 3: three thousand. At the time they are sured as security
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  Speaker 3: checks will be done. Then we found out most of
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  Speaker 3: the checks took less than an hour, and more recently
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  Speaker 3: we learned didn't even begin doing security checks on a
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  Speaker 3: number of gars and refugees until after they arrived on
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  Speaker 3: our shores. Back in November, we were told by the
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  Speaker 3: Albanese government. They were given tourist visas, it would be temporary,
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  Speaker 3: and then they told us, well, we can't send them
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  Speaker 3: back to a war zone when they're three month tourist
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  Speaker 3: visa runs out.
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  Speaker 2: And now we're being.
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  Speaker 3: Told it's vital that pathways to permanent residency are established.
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  Speaker 3: You ever get the feeling you're being led by the
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  Speaker 3: nose when it comes to this government and this particular issue.
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  Speaker 3: But today we're told don't worry about any of it
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  Speaker 3: because Immigration Minister Tony Burke will personally supervise and approve
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  Speaker 3: visas for Gazans who want to apply to stay for
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  Speaker 3: three years or longer in the country. The refugees have
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  Speaker 3: been told they can express interest online and then Tony
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  Speaker 3: Burke will personally assess each and every visa. If approved,
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  Speaker 3: these Gars and refugees will be eligible for welfare, pays
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  Speaker 3: for Medicare, They'll be able to work and to study
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  Speaker 3: in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I've just got one question.
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  Speaker 3: If Penny Wong had told us back in November, just
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  Speaker 3: weeks after the October seven attacks, that the government planned
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  Speaker 3: on bringing hear on three thousand gards and refugees from
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  Speaker 3: a radicalized war zone to this country and they do
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  Speaker 3: security checks on them after they arrived, and not on
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  Speaker 3: temporary visas, but to stay here permanently. Would anyone have
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  Speaker 3: been in support. They've treated the Australian public like absolute mugs.
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  Speaker 2: So should we really be comforted now?
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  Speaker 3: They say, but don't worry, Tony Burke will be personally
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  Speaker 3: supervising extended visas. This is a government that can't say
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism without saying Islamophobia in the next breath lest
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  Speaker 3: they upset voters.
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  Speaker 2: In Western Sydney. The whole process and the.
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  Speaker 3: Whole idea was ill advised from the beginning. The government
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  Speaker 3: have done nothing but mislead the Australian public the entire way,
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  Speaker 3: and now they're trying to reassure us that Tony Burke
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  Speaker 3: is looking after the whole thing. This is an absolute
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  Speaker 3: fiasco and I think a total insult to the Australian public.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if he's going to go through every single one
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  Speaker 4: of them, he won't be Tony Burke, He'll be Busy Burke.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, for heaven, the amount of work he would
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  Speaker 4: have to go through as the minister to assess every
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  Speaker 4: single one of these applicants individually, I just can't believe
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  Speaker 4: that that would actually ever happen. It'll be palmed off
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  Speaker 4: to someone in his office who is unelected, who shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be doing it in the first place. And of course
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  Speaker 4: normally these things would be done by bureaucrats.
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  Speaker 1: But we know that the bureaucrats were.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty lackluster in getting anything done, and we've seen a
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  Speaker 4: few cases in the last couple of weeks. We had
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  Speaker 4: an American fellow who stood up in front of the
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  Speaker 4: La Kimber Mosque last week on the anniversary of October
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  Speaker 4: seven and said, what a great day. It was, a
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  Speaker 4: day of resistance, etc. A day of celebration, and he
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  Speaker 4: was feeling good on the day. And so Tony Burke
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  Speaker 4: got on the blower to his department and said, to
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  Speaker 4: do you mind going and checking whether this fellow is
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  Speaker 4: on a visa? And when they confirmed that he on
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  Speaker 4: a visa, mister Burke said he was considering whether or
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  Speaker 4: not that visa should be canceled. Now I don't know
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  Speaker 4: whether that visa has been canceled. We haven't heard any
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  Speaker 4: further about that story. Since I would suggest the fact
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  Speaker 4: we haven't heard any further would be to say that
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  Speaker 4: it hasn't actually happened. We had another fellow just a
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  Speaker 4: day later who was revealed to have hosted members of HAMAS,
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  Speaker 4: high up members of Hamas and Hezbla at his art
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  Speaker 4: gallery over in the Middle East. He is now living
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  Speaker 4: in this country on a visa.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all.
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  Speaker 4: Fine now because Tony Burke is going to assess every
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  Speaker 4: single one of them individually.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe it for a minute.
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  Speaker 4: And even if he does assess every single one of
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  Speaker 4: them individually, how is one man who is charged with
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  Speaker 4: running two pretty big portfolios at the moment possibly going
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  Speaker 4: to have the time to do the job properly.
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  Speaker 1: It's smoke and mirrors to make it.
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  Speaker 4: They know that the perception has been bad in the
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  Speaker 4: last couple Okay, we're taking control now.
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  Speaker 1: How could he possibly do all of that? I just
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  Speaker 1: can't so happen.
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  Speaker 5: Well, either this is a means to silence the fearmongerers,
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  Speaker 5: which has been relentless so the government knows they have
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  Speaker 5: to be seen to do something about this now, or
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  Speaker 5: it's an outright admission that they didn't do it right
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  Speaker 5: the first time around. So to be clear, we're talking
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  Speaker 5: about gardens who are already here in Australia and who
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  Speaker 5: are applying to stay, many of which, in order to
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  Speaker 5: apply to stay for these three years, will have to
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  Speaker 5: then retract their application to be asylum seekers here. Literally
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  Speaker 5: just seeking asylum on the back of one assumes a
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  Speaker 5: tourism visa. But I gotta say just fifteen hundred gardens
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  Speaker 5: here in Australia does not.
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  Speaker 6: In my humble opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Is it is so disproportionate to the mind blowing amount
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  Speaker 5: of fear porn that we have seen.
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  Speaker 6: Over this four months and months. Oh, it's just a
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  Speaker 6: free for all.
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  Speaker 5: They're just letting anyone into the country, thousands of a
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  Speaker 5: flooding in. Well, if that's true, Beryl, if they're not
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  Speaker 5: vetting them, why are seventy percent of applications rejected. And
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  Speaker 5: let's be clear, of the thirty percent that were accepted,
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  Speaker 5: only half of them.
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  Speaker 6: Have actually rocked up.
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  Speaker 5: And also thirty percent of the thirty percent who were
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  Speaker 5: accepted were kids.
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  Speaker 6: Were children, And I I'm not sorry to tell you
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  Speaker 6: if you have a problem.
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  Speaker 5: With children escaping at hellescape, now's a good time to
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  Speaker 5: take a few moments to get right with the lord.
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  Speaker 5: Because who should be against kids escaping the hell scape
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  Speaker 5: that is currently Gaza. I don't think anyone who has
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  Speaker 5: a single scaic of human emotion about them would have
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  Speaker 5: a problem with that. So I do think this has
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  Speaker 5: been blown out of proportion greatly.
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  Speaker 6: There's two point one million people in Gaza. Not all
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  Speaker 6: of them.
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  Speaker 5: Love hermus trust me, they've suffered under this government more
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  Speaker 5: than any of us can possibly imagine. Yes, there are
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  Speaker 5: Hamas sympathizers there, but it is in Asio's best interests
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  Speaker 5: and the Australian government's best interest to ensure that they
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  Speaker 5: are vetting these people. And the fact that seventy percent
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  Speaker 5: of applicants have been rejected goes to show that all
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  Speaker 5: these cries of they're not vetting them at all is nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: The guy that you were speaking about before, he's an American.
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  Speaker 5: He's here from America, Yes, on a visitor's visa, probably.
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  Speaker 6: Just to speak at that thing. He's not staying for long.
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  Speaker 5: The serious case you then raise, though, of that fellow
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  Speaker 5: who had been shown to.
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  Speaker 6: Entertain Hamas supporters etc.
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  Speaker 5: At his own parties and residences art galleries in the
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  Speaker 5: Middle East.
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  Speaker 6: Now that's one where you're like.
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  Speaker 5: You mean to tell me you didn't know, And that's
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  Speaker 5: the kind of cases that we can absolutely grill the government.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the point that they are slipping through the cracks,
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  Speaker 4: whether that be by design, very competent, So they're slipping through.
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  Speaker 5: The cracks, well, I would say by design, because there's
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  Speaker 5: no way they didn't know. That guy is a think
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  Speaker 5: so and prolific supporter.
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  Speaker 6: These guys are his mates. The question is why was.
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  Speaker 5: He allowed regardless, because there's no way you didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way I'm going to give the government that
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  Speaker 5: much leeway. They had to have known, So why did
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  Speaker 5: they approve it? And that is a question. Notice they
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  Speaker 5: still have an answer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone is wanting children to remain in
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  Speaker 3: suffering and not be given refuge.
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  Speaker 2: The argument is not with gars.
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  Speaker 5: But that's something that hasn't been highlighted at all of
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  Speaker 5: the thirty percent who were approved, thirty percent of those
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  Speaker 5: shark kids.
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  Speaker 3: But the argument's never been with gars and people. The
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  Speaker 3: argument has been with yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I'm sorry, I've seen a ramp and I can
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  Speaker 5: only call it racism in terms of some of the
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  Speaker 5: discussion that has happened around these visas.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what discussion you've seen. But the
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  Speaker 3: discussion I've seen has not been anti Garsen people. It's
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  Speaker 3: been a concern that this government misled the public from
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  Speaker 3: the beginning about the numbers, about the security check, about
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  Speaker 3: the length of visits that they would be offering.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Fact that ASIO have balls this up massively. At one
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  Speaker 3: point they said RETRIC in support of a terrorist organization
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  Speaker 3: would not necessarily disqualify one because, let me.
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  Speaker 5: Finish, Surgis is well aware that RETRIC supporting the government in.
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  Speaker 6: Gaza is a survival mechanism.
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  Speaker 5: The government, who the heck in Gaza is going to
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  Speaker 5: be like, oh yeah, hate her mask?
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  Speaker 7: Do you have a death wish?
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  Speaker 1: So how do you have a death wish? How do
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  Speaker 1: you tell?
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  Speaker 7: That's their job.
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  Speaker 5: But that is what he meant when he said it,
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  Speaker 5: and I thank you for bringing that up, because that
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  Speaker 5: was another thing that was blown so far.
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  Speaker 7: Out of proportion.
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  Speaker 3: If you're right, if you're right, Mike Burgess needs to
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  Speaker 3: get someone to help him with his communication, because maybe
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  Speaker 3: he does shocking and it sent the wrong message not
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  Speaker 3: just to Australians but to supporters of message in this country.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing that was sent was by the media
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  Speaker 5: that then took that out of context.
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  Speaker 2: And Blue, No, they didn't take it out.
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  Speaker 5: Is genuinely just like Ka Sarah, if we let a
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  Speaker 5: few terraces in, that was the right.
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  Speaker 3: That was the message that they conveyed and if he
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  Speaker 3: didn't mean that, he should have been.
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  Speaker 5: Fun're misunderstood and made that very clear in back.
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  Speaker 3: In addition, as I said, it's been revealed that ASIO
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  Speaker 3: didn't begin security checks on numbers of gardens until after
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  Speaker 3: they'd arrived in Australia. No reasonable citizen would think that
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  Speaker 3: is acceptable, and that was the argument people have had.
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  Speaker 3: It's never been with gards and childre the government. That's
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  Speaker 3: proved in every area with this.
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  Speaker 5: Mission one into the country without any security checks. So
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  Speaker 5: if you genuinely believe that, then you've been hoodwinked. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't do a good enough job and that has
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  Speaker 5: been shown. If you're spending less than an hour on
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  Speaker 5: an application, perhaps you haven't done due diligence thing.
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  Speaker 6: But to say that they weren't, they were literally just
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  Speaker 6: to the country.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry it was lackless and look to cut
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  Speaker 4: as to cut as small bit of slack. ASIO can
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  Speaker 4: only follow the direction that the government gives it All
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  Speaker 4: of this stuff comes down from the government. They're the
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  Speaker 4: ones ultimately making these decisions, and the pendulum goes from
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  Speaker 4: over here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's not much going on. We bagging it up.
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  Speaker 1: Now the minister is going.
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  Speaker 4: To assiss every single case. Please, I don't believe it
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  Speaker 4: for a minute. Let's go over to the US election
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  Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris is noticing she's got a small problem
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  Speaker 4: with black voters. So she has run out this great idea.
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  Speaker 4: She's calling it the Opportunity Agenda for Black men. Now
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  Speaker 4: you go through some of the things she is suggesting
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  Speaker 4: in here, some of them are just downright racist. For instance,
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  Speaker 4: there's going to be under her plan a million fully
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  Speaker 4: forgivable loans to black entrepreneurs so that they can start
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  Speaker 4: out businesses. I'm sure there are people across Middle America,
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  Speaker 4: through the Rust Belt and whatever who are going, my god,
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  Speaker 4: I haven't had a job for five.
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  Speaker 1: Years because you took away my manufacturing jobs.
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  Speaker 4: If only I had an opportunity to get a fully
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  Speaker 4: forgivable loan from the govern and I might go and
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  Speaker 4: make a go of things. But no, unless you're black,
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  Speaker 4: you can't get hold of that. The rest is full
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  Speaker 4: of motherhood statements. So it goes on to say that
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  Speaker 4: Harris wants to protect black investments in cryptocurrency. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure exactly why that is pulled out, but anyway, that's there.
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  Speaker 4: And also she wants to give opportunities for black men
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  Speaker 4: to work in the marijuana industry. If there was anything
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  Speaker 4: you ever wanted people to get involved in there.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 4: So you might be asking yourself, why is it that
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  Speaker 4: Kamala Harris would three weeks out from the election finally
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  Speaker 4: come up with some plan to appeal to black men.
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  Speaker 1: I suspect this is the reason.
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  Speaker 8: This is the democratic margin among black men under the
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  Speaker 8: age of forty five and presidential elections. You'll go back
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  Speaker 8: to November of twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 2: What do you see? You see Obama by eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: Clinton only won and by sixty three. Then we're all
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  Speaker 2: the way down a.
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  Speaker 8: Byte and last time around by fifty three of tremendous
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  Speaker 8: drop already. And then you take a look at the
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  Speaker 8: average of the most recent pause and Kamala Harris is
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  Speaker 8: up by only forty one points. That is about half
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  Speaker 8: the margin that Obama won them by back in November
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  Speaker 8: of twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Not looking good, is it?
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  Speaker 4: Perhaps black voters in America have woken up to the
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  Speaker 4: fact that the Democrats have taken advantage of them for
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  Speaker 4: a very long time. They have just counted on them
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  Speaker 4: for their vote. That is not happening anymore. At least
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  Speaker 4: it's on the decline. It's not where and you could
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  Speaker 4: see the numbers right from Obama down to Harris. It
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  Speaker 4: has declined at every single election, the black support for
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  Speaker 4: the Democrats because they've gone, what have you actually.
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  Speaker 1: Done for me in the last twenty odd years? Nothing?
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  Speaker 4: Basically because you thought you could rely on my vote.
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  Speaker 4: The tide is starting to turn, and so Harrah's gone,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, what can I do? What can I
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  Speaker 4: possibly do? I'll protect your crypto investments and I'll get
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  Speaker 4: your jobs in the marijuana industry. I mean god, She
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  Speaker 4: sadly pulled the best out of the bag.
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  Speaker 7: And she is just four.
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  Speaker 5: Days after she announces this plan, just four days after
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  Speaker 5: Barack Obama went a viral because he was telling off
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  Speaker 5: black men for their lacklust to support of the Harris campaign.
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  Speaker 6: He literally took them to task.
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  Speaker 5: This, of course, is because black men in America have
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  Speaker 5: traditionally been part of the supporter base of the Democrats,
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  Speaker 5: and as you just saw in that CNN clip, they
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  Speaker 5: are now freaking out so hot on the keels of
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  Speaker 5: Barack Obama taking it upon himself to literally chide these guys,
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  Speaker 5: what are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: Support the Blue team. Now you've got.
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  Speaker 5: Kamala coming out saying that another part of what she
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  Speaker 5: was planning in this plan for helping black men was
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: studying diseases that disproportionately affect African American men, So she's
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  Speaker 5: genuinely pulling out every stop. Another one was more apprenticeships
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  Speaker 5: for black men in America. So it's basically just trying
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  Speaker 5: to offer them any kind of candy they could possibly
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  Speaker 5: want before they go to the polls in three weeks start.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you speak of candy, these are one
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  Speaker 3: million loans of twenty thousand dollars fully forgivable.
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  Speaker 2: I know that's not alone. It's just a bribe.
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  Speaker 3: Will give him twenty grand if you vote for Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 3: And you're right that Obama chided black men for not
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  Speaker 3: being enthusiastic enough about Kamala Harris. But as part of
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  Speaker 3: his chiding, he actually said to them, is it because
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  Speaker 3: he's a woman. So he's accusing black men of being sexist,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the reason why they're not supporting Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the Black Lives Matter.
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  Speaker 3: Riots were instructive as to how the Democrats think about
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  Speaker 3: black people. They think that black people are morally inferior,
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  Speaker 3: which is why they turned a blind eye and said, well,
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  Speaker 3: of course they're going to loot department stores, because well,
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  Speaker 3: what other option do they have. They taught black people
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  Speaker 3: at they're helpless victims because of events of hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: years ago. Well, of course you're upset, and of course
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  Speaker 3: you're down trodden. And while they do that, they promise
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  Speaker 3: repeatedly to fix the plight of black people, but never do.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think black people have finally figured them
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  Speaker 3: out and said, we're going to vote for Trump, who's
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  Speaker 3: actually going to treat us like we're equals and provide
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's the bigotrey of low expectations we seed here in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: We see it, we see it all over the world.
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  Speaker 4: Right, they just take advantage of voters thinking, oh, well
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  Speaker 4: it dad and matter, you're just going to vote for
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  Speaker 4: us anyway, why would we possibly do anything for you?
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  Speaker 4: So she'd forgotten about the importance of black men up
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  Speaker 4: until now three weeks before the election, so she's finally
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  Speaker 4: jumped on that. She also seems to have forgotten that
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  Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty, when Joe Biden was running for president,
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  Speaker 4: the idea was to keep him away from the cameras
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  Speaker 4: as much as possible, because if he wasn't in front
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  Speaker 4: of the cameras, if he was down in his bunker,
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  Speaker 4: then he couldn't cause any trouble for his campaign, he
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: couldn't turn voters off.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: At her latest rally, she says, that's exactly what Donald
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Trump is doing now.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: It makes you wonder.
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: It makes you wonder, why does his sam want him
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: to hide away?
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: One last question?
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: One last question.
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: Are they afraid that people will see that he is
• 17:16
  Speaker 10: too weak and unstableh.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: The irony is lost on this woman.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Until a week ago, you were doing as little as
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: few interviews as possible. Then you've done an onslaught of interviews,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: mostly with friendly outlets, journalists, podcasts, etc. Because you finally realize,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: oh my god, people don't know who I am. Because
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: for all my time nearly four years as vice president,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I've done four fifths of bugger all you've hidden away.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Now you're complaining that Trump's doing the same thing. Quite bizarre.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: But then she goes on to say that Donald Trump,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: if he disagrees with you, he's going to get the
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: military to come and round you up and put you
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: some sort of interment camp or something.
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: He's talking about that he considers anyone who doesn't support
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: him or who will not bend to his will an
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: enemy of our country. It's a serious issue he's saying.
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: He is saying that he would use the military to
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: go after them.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: Think about that, I.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Mean, please, is that the most pathetic attempt you have
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: heard at having a go at your opponent? And look,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: In typical Kamala style, she goes back to the weird
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: cackling and stuff to.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Talk about the debate.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: He is the best she can come up with to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: attack Donald Trump. He's not anything he's done in the
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. It's the debate that was the
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: better part of a month ago.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: You know, likes the debate, right, he has oh concepts
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: of a plan.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: Concepts.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, please, Mariah Carey take it away.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: Why sossin?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, once again, she's hardly pulling her best out here.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Is she please.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I think that was her best.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: The reason for that of Sesscrab, by the way, is
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: did you talk about anything else at this rally? In Pennsylvania?
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: This is the queen of the swing states. Last election,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Biden won it by one point one percent margin.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: The election before that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Trump won it by point seven percent. That is how
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: tiny the margin is in Pennsylvania.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: It swings here, it swings there.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: It's one of those states that everyone knows is a
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: real election decider. If you can get Pennsylvania, you're probably
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: going to get the presidency.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: But all she did seemingly was.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Talk about Donald Trump the entire time. Talk about your
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: own policies, lady, talk about your own vision for the future.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: And in those first two clips where she's accusing Trump
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: of being we can unstable and they're hiding him away.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: He's been so visible in.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: The campaign trail, even before he declared that he was
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: running for the presidency. It's not funny. He hasn't stopped
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: being in our headlines. He hasn't stopped with boots on
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: the ground. The Trump campaign has been working tirelessly and
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: then saying, oh, he's going to weaponize the military to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: round up dissidents what like, you've weaponized the justice system
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: in America to try to take out your opponents. It
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: was Karl Marx who once said, accuse your opponent of
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: doing exactly what you're doing while you're doing it to
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: create confusion.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: And we all know Kamala's dad was.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: A professor who taught Marz, so I'd say she's taken
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: a leaf out of dad's book and said, well, actually,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I'm going to employ that very strategy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: The other thing I just don't understand about all of
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: this is when she's saying that, you know, if you
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: disagree with Trump and he wins, he's going.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: To round everybody up and put them all in camps.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Haven't we just had a third assassination attempt on Donald Trump?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And when you start saying that if you disagree with Trump,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: he's going to round everybody up, are you not just
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: inciting a fourth attempt?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It's completely irresponsible And.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: How dumb do they think voters are that anyone would
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: actually believe that that would happen. And the reason Kamala
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Harris doesn't talk about policies is because she doesn't actually
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: have any, or at least the one she has, she's
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: plagiarized from Trump himself. It was Trump who came up
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: with the idea of removing taxes from tips. Kamala Harris
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: now has adopted that policy. It was Trump who came
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: up with a child tax credit of five thousand dollars.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Caamala then announced a child tax credit of six thousand dollars.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: And of course it was Trump who wanted to build
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a wall. And now Kamala claims that she will build
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: a wall. But it's not just policies that she's plagiarizing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: She's also plagiarizing other people's writing. Her two thousand and
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: nine books, Smart on Crime, which details her great successes
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: and her philosophy as a prosecutor, contains large chunks lifted
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: not just from other authors, but even lifted from Wikipedia.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: JD. Vance called her out. Have a listen.
• 22:29
  Speaker 11: I saw today actually a story that Kamla Harris apparently
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: copied some significant chunks of her book from Wikipedia.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So if you want a president with their own.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Ideas, vote for Donald Trump. If you want a president who.
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: Copies her own ideas from Wikipedia, vote for Kabla Heras.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Now, she'll point out Calebin Liz Kamala Harris has said
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: she will respond to those allegations as soon as her
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: team loads somebody else's words into her flip.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Look, it's true that if this woman had an independent thought,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: it would die of loneliness because this is what she does, right,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: She can do very well as long as she's reading
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: from a teleprompter, much like during Biden.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Actually, so no change there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: But here's some of the read receipts that people have
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: dug out. In the left hand column, you see there
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: her book, an excerpt from her book.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: And on the right hand.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: You see where she got it from. In many cases
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: it is word for word, and she's accused of doing
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: this in at least twelve sections of her book. Now,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: the New York Times, typically being the New York Times,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: went into damage control mode and tried to frame this
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: as just nasty right wing people coming out baying for
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's blood. Their headline read, conservative activists caesars on
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: passages from Harris's book. I mean, by the sound of that,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: you just think that someone was going after unnecessarily. But
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: the read receipts on this are absolutely inarguable.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: These are copy paste.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Instances of plagiarism, and I love that jd Vance has
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: brought this into the international spotlight, because while Chris Rufo
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I believe his name is, had tried to get this out,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: he was just being attacked by the mainstream media for
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: pointing it out. Someone like jd Vance says it, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden it's thrust into the international spotlight.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I have to say, though, I'd rather she'd be plagiarizing
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: than using whatever weird ideas her brain could come up with.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Like for him, and we know that she can barely
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think or talk straight.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I want someone else to be feeding her ideas and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: her to be copying. Can you imagine what the United
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: States would look like if she did what she's actually
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: got going on up there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: It's a sad day when you'd prefer her to quote Wikipedia.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: That thoughts I could go on Wikipedia and write things.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Maybe Kamala, he'll be their next unofficial speech writer. Jd
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Vance has been on an absolute letz Grig of a
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: streak taking on the lefty leaning media, the regime media.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: You would have heard about these instances of Venezuelan gangs
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: taking over entire apartment complexes. Here's a bit of a
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: footage of this, just a few months ago. You can
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: only imagine the terror of the occupants, as these were
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Venezuelans armed with weapons took over apartment complexes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Check it out.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: JD.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Evans was recently talking to an ABC reporter who tried
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: to play this down, saying, oh, it was only a
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: handful of instances of a listen, he wasn't having a
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: bar of it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment ConfL
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: apartment complexes, and they said, our dedicated police officers have
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: acted on those concerned a handful of problems.
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs,
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: and Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: and they have every right to be.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: This is a verified report that has just been swept
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: under the carpet by mainstream media again because this of
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: gause all stems back to that wide open border that
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: over ten million illegals have streamed over. Check out this
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: quote from cb Z Management. They're the landlords of some
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: of these apartment complexes. They write everything was progressing smoothly.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Property values were rising and vacancy.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Rates were dropping.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: It was a win win for both the owners and
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: the city of Aurora. To address this entity, ie the
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Venezuelan gangs. We contacted every city official we could think
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: of to help with the problem. Unfortunately, none were willing
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: to take meaningful action. So once again, hats off to
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: jd Vance going, No, hang on a minute, lady, you're
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: not going to make this out to be only a
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: handful of instances. These were entire complexes that were held
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: ransom by armed Venezuelan illegals just rampaging through these complexes
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: in the United States of America.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of points from that interview.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: The first is what an inspired choice jd Vance was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: as Trump's running mate, because he runs rings around Kamala Harris,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: let alone Tim Waltz, his opposition.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Jd Vance is.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Proving to be incredibly articulate. And notice he's doing all
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: the tough interviews. I mean, Kamala Harris sits down with Oprah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Jd Vance sits down with the ABC and absolutely calls
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: them out. The second thing about that is the reporter
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Martha Raddits lives in a two million dollar home in
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: an estate in Virginia.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't be living in any of these apartments where Venezuelan
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: gangs are conducting sex trafficking and trying to extort the
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: migrants living in these apartments. So it's all very well
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: for her to say from the luxury of her two
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: million dollar estate home. Oh, it's only a handful of
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: apartments that have been taken over by crazy gang members.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And third, isn't Trump derangement syndrome quite something where members
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: of the media so hate Donald Trump that they're willing
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: to dismiss entire apartment buildings of American citizens taken over
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: by Venezuelan gangs.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Is it's just a handful of apartments. Now, that's filely
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: down to there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: They hate Donald Trump so much they don't care about
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: what's happening to their fellow citizens.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: A little bit of crimes good right, culturally, Richmond, what's
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: wrong with that? I just wish the left in America
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: could get this story straight. They might not have picked
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: up on the fact that Kamala Harris is as James
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: said before, now saying that she would bring back the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: border bill if she is elected president and continue building
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the wall that Trump wanted to build. She's now woken
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: up and said, oh, we have problems at the border, ignoring.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: The fact that she was the borderzar for the last
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: four years. So is there a problem with the border
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: or isn't there? I don't know.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Try to work on that message. And we've brought you
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: the story, of course, of all the examples across the
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: US at the moment of the Dems and the arms
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: of the government basically trying to rig the election by
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: stopping states from making sure that it is a fair election. Ie,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: these illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote because of
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: course the aren't citizens of the United States. We brought
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you the story a couple of weeks ago of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Department of Justice going after Alabama because they removed quite
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: a number of illegal immigrants from their voter roles. Well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: now they're going after Virginia for doing exactly the same thing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Now in both cases they've done this because this is
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: meant to be whereby you cannot remove people from the
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: voter rolls ninety days or fewer out from the election. Now,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: you would think that the Department of Justice, knowing that
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: what the states are doing is removing illegal immigrants. Could
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: let this one slide. It's not like they're going through
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: and going, Okay, who's a Democrat voter, let's rip all
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: of them off.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: No, they're removing.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: People who aren't legally allowed to vote in the presidential election.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And yet the Apartment of Justice is still going after them.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Why because all of these people were allowed into America
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: on the agreement that, oh, well, you know, if we
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the Dems let them in, then they're eventually.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Going to become voters.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: They figured, Bagarette, why would we wait for them to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: become citizens.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Let's just let them vote now.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: If they really cared about a fair and free election,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: they would let this slide because all that is happening
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: is that illegal voters are being removed from the voter rolls.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: But they don't want that to happen because they want
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: their votes.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: As you said, this is not a one off.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: This is the second time it's happened, first in Alabama,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: now in Detroit.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It just keeps happening. They're not even trying to hide it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And as you said, they keep banging on about free,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: fair elections, and you're not allowed to suggest that anything
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: is untoward. Meanwhile, they make it very hard to believe
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: that it's all squeaky clean by these ridiculous lawsuits.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Tell me you're not cheating without telling me you're not cheating,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, please, you're clearly doing little cheats here, there
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: and everywhere. But Michigan has recently had a win. The
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Michigan Republics have just won an election integrity lawsuit.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Again, these guys are having to take.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Their own government to got to get a fair go here.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: This time it was over election inspectors. Much like here
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: in Australia, each party will have certain people at every polling.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Booth to supervise the counting.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: But they were only hiring Democrat election watches, no republic one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: So this has been a nice small win for those
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: in Michigan knowing that Elise, there's going to be one
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: tiny bit of integrity carried out at their polls. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: notice they had to fight for it. My goodness, it's
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: just ridiculous because all these little things really add up
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: in an election where every vote counts, especially in certain
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: counties where every vote does.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Indeed, you didn't understand how unfair it was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: They had appointed two thousand, thres three hundred and forty
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Democrat poll workers and three hundred and eight Republican workers.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It was literally a ratio of seven. Wow.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: And they expected no one to call that out.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: And the Republicans had nominated six hundred and seventy five
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: people that they wanted to be used as their scrutinieres.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Fifty two of them were chosen, and then they then
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: chose two hundred and fifty others to be Republicans who
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: weren't indoors by the Republican Party.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So it was like seven to one Democrats to Republicans.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: But all the agreement here is that they'll be allowed
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: to have at least one Republican on every polling booth.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Seriously, what are we talking about here. We are living
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: in a clown world.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And they are going to try, of course, to say
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: that if all of this goes the Democrats way, people
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: will call it out and say, well, hang on, you
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: actually tried to steal the election.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And then I'll go back to January sixth, last time,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: et cetera.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: It's all being set up. We know exactly where this
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: is going to go. Let's come back to Australia. Now,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: back to my home state of South Australia and in
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the city of Mount Gambia tonight, which of course is
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: on the border of South Australia and Victoria, they are
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: discussing installing a piece of public art that would be
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: worth one hundred and thirty six thousand dollars.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Take a look at this thing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: It is supposedly meant to be a mega fauna that
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: once upon a time existed in Australia.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at that. I don't what the hell is
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: That looks like a depressed ard.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Arc or something.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know what they all that is that is
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: supposedly one hundred and thirty six thousand dollars worth of art.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: The Mount Demby Council is considering that tonight.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I hate this stuff like it makes me really angry
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: because what we see continually, whether it be in public
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: art or what we get in art galleries now, et cetera,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: is the degradation of the human spirit. Right, art is
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: meant to be beautiful. And if you haven't read into
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Sir Roger Scrutin's writings on the idea of esthetics and
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: beauty and architecture and art in particular, I would encourage
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: you to go and do so, because when you look
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: at art or you look at architecture, it makes you
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: feel a certain way. And you walk around the greatest
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: cities in the world and even the great cities of Australia,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: and the buildings that you look at or the artworks
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: that you look at make you go, g I like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: this is stuff that was done two three, four hundred
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: years ago, now four hundred ygos in terms of arc
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: texture in this country, of course, But you know, pre
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: or post eighteen hundred essentially until about I don't know
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that the early twentieth century is architecture that makes you
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: feel good. And continually, now what we have is artwork
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: and architecture that makes you go, why the hell am
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I living in this world anymore? It makes you feel
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: like a pile of crap. And I'm not unconvinced that
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: that is the point of his art. It has just
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: sapped the will to live out of you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Just looking at the image on screen, that actually reminds
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: me of do you remember those life being It adds a.
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  Speaker 2: Normal normal, It actually reminds me of him.
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  Speaker 3: That The crazy thing about this is that the Council Committee,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: which has recommended that one hundred and thirty what was it,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty six thousand dollars be spent on
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: this monstrosity. They said that it was bold, relevant and
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: spectacular line, which reminds me of that children's fable the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Emperor's New Clothes. It'd surely have to just be going
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: along under peer pressure to believe that. But then they
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: said they hope that this sculpture would raise the city's
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: profile among the arts and cultural It's going to raise
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the city's profile, all right, people.
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  Speaker 7: To see whatever the heck.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, they do tell us what they think
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: it is. It is a large blue mythical creature inspired
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: by the marsupial megafauna that roamed the region.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: Thousands of years ago.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Of course, how the heck do you know whatever that
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: thing used to look like, if indeed it existed. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: you're quite right, Caleber, and this is so true of
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: our architecture as well. We used to look at the
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: stuff that they built in what we now call the
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Dark Ages. If that was the Dark Age's baby, take
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: me back tomorrow, architects of today, what is stopping you
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: from building stuff like that? Because we have the means
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: now to build it more affordably than ever and create
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: things that make the human spirit. I read a quote
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: recently that literally said, you're not depressed, you're just so
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: uninspired by your surroundings, and it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Was the montage of modern buildings.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Like you walk through any of these beautiful suburbs of Sydney.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: You can tell the old department blocks they are stunning,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: even though they're over one hundred years old, some of them.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: And then you look at the more modern ones they
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: are ugly. They all look like these social housing to
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: go over at some point. They are just so ugly
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: and there's no excuse for it except to like you say,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: is this deliberate?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Well, you saw the sculpture. The thing just sort of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: looks like that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: That's what the rate pays about. Gambi, you're going to
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: feel like and that thing is built.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, We're to go to a break when we come
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: back to look at the papers, including the Albanizer government
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: being slammed for trying to introduce a First Nations approach
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: to foreign policy.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in a money.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's look at what's making news tomorrow, and this
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: might get people excited. Lives the Victorian government are going
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: to spend a fortune, but it's to bring Abba to
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Victoria kind of.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, this is the local government. This is his pitch
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: for mayor. Tell me if you think this is worth
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: ten million dollars, all right.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: The splash reads man money.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Lord Mayor Hopeful commits ten million to bring Abber Show
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: to Docklands. Lord Mayor Hopeful Aaron Wood has pledged ten
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: million of ratepayer funds to help bring ABBA's spectacular three
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: D virtual concert to Docklands if elected to the city's
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: top job.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: So hang on a minute.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: This is a three D virtual concert and they are
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: going to fork out again. This isn't taxpayer money, this
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: is rate payer money.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: So Rhodes rates and rubbish out the window.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: This guy wants your vote and if he gets it,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: he wants to spend ten million dollars.
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: On a three D virtual concert.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: It do you want to win or do you want
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: to lose?
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  Speaker 7: Mate?
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: You thought that sculpture in Mount Gambia was bad? Like, seriously,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: we are talking here about holograms. You're not even going
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: to a real concert. You are going to watch something
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: that is not real. Like have you not heard of
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: the cinema for Heaven's sake, And this bloke wants to
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: pay ten million dollars for what is effectively a film,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: but it's in a hologram form instead of on a screen.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: How is that worth ten million dollars?
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: I mean forgotten, I've livings where people are like, that's
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: nice our own words.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: I'd just like to afford food.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But if you can do it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: If you can do it with ABBA, right, with the
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: power of AI, why can't they just make it themselves, Like,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: just just just come up with the AI version of ABBA.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: They could have any permutation of concert you want. Heck
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: we a Brea back Michael Jackson, we can bring back
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Frank Sinatra. Let's just have hologram with AI.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Aaron Woods could be performing ABA hits.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Correct, correct, and we wouldn't have to do that ascent
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: for that either.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: He wants a percentage of the ticket sales. Do they
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: have to sell a lot of ticket? Is there that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: many people who would want to watch a holograd?
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: Is he hoping to make costs back?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Because I highly doubt it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Once again, Aaron Woods, buddy, do you want to when
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: or not? Something tells me that this isn't the election
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: pitch that you think it is to the second splash
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: on the front of The Herald's son Rental as anything.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: The Allen government is stockpiling rental properties to bolster its
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: public housing numbers, in a move experts worn could force
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: rent's higher homes. Victoria is approaching builders offering to take
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: five year leases on new properties. Well, you don't need
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: to be an expert to know that. Of course, this
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: will raise rents higher. Where are the renters supposed to go?
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: They already have nowhere to go. Everything's already unaffordable. And
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: now you've got the state government swooping in ahead of you,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: snaffling up all these properties to tick their social housing box.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: It's that old Ronald Reagan adage, the most horrifying words
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: in the English language. I'm from the government and I'm
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: here to help help ends up worse. Let's go to
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the front page of the Daily Telegraph. I can't believe
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: this story. It's an exclusive. Australians say no, but defat
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: says yes. Voice goes global. A move to introduce a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: first Nations approach to Australia's foreign policy has drawn criticism
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: from strategy experts, who fear the move could result in
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the Albanezy government losing the hard edge analysis needed for
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: global strategy. A couple of things on that opening paragraph,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Caleb the government could lose its hard edge analysis on
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: global I didn't know the old easy government had any.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Edge, let alone a hard edge.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: But the Daily Telegraph have obtained emails that have been
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: sent on Behald half of the Department of Foreign Affairs
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and Trade, seeking indigenous stakeholders to attend meetings where they
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: will work on developing a strategy to embed First Nations
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: approaches to foreign policy. All of this is being driven
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: by did you know we've got a First Nations people
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: ambassador Justin Muhammad? If you've not heard of him, he's
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: earning three hundred and twenty six thousand dollars that you
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: pay for. He's leading this push on behalf of DEFAT
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: for a first nation's approach to solving the Middle East crisis,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: dealing with yijingping. We've got problems in the Pacific, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: of course there's a war in Ukraine. But if only
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: we could just tap into indigenous culture. We are not
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: a forge our foreign affairs.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: We are not a serious country.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: When you think of everything else that DFAT has on
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: its plate, should have on its plate and this is
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: what they're focusing on.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: It hurls your hair.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: But what is the first nations approach to foreigeign policy?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I mean until about seventeen seventy, the seventeen seventies, they
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: had no connection to anyone else in the rest of
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the world. There was no need for any sort of
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: foreign policy. I just don't get what it is meant
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: to achieve. And by the way, good foreign policy for
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Australia benefits all Australians.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And you know who's.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Included in Australians, Aboriginal people.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: What a novel idea.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the Canberra Times where it says tomorrow
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: money for nothing. Little surcharges here and there might not
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: feel like a huge hit to your bank balance, but
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: stacked up over a year, card surch charges are costing
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Australians and estimated one billion dollars. Canbra customers and business
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: owners are sick of the fees and welcome moves to
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: scrap them. I suspect that's just everyone in the country,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: not just people in camera. But of course the paper
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: is for camera. But this comes on the back of
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Anthony Albanezi basically launching the election campaign as far as
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I could tell today announcing one of his new policies,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: which is that he would ban these card surcharges. And
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: fair enough. I think the banks make enough profit as
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: it is. Why should they be leaving the surcharges on
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: businesses and consumers to use their card. It's just the
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: way of life now. I don't see why it's justified
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: or how it's justified.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Did you just credit Anthony Albanezy? I did I do? Idea?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I did? I mean?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Look, a broken clock is right twice a day, and
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: I think in this case he is raight.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yep, it's a good move.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Nobody will miss those fees to the front page of
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: the Australia Now loan link to charity be artists.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: This is about that Blue b mural.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: It's back.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: The artist behind a Bathurst mural cited in submissions to
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: shut down the Blaney gold Mine in New South Wales
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: worked for a charity that was loaned twenty eight thousand
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: by the activist group that successfully opposed the project, with
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: the money provided shortly after he joined their ranks vested interests.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Much This whole fiasco just gets deeper and deeper, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Tanya Plibasek must be just wishing it would all go away,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: but it's not going to go away because she's never
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: given an adequate response and the media just keep on
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: digging more and more details.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, does this not go back to my point
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: before about the problems with modern art, right? I mean,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: all of this discussion about this gold mine now is
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: centering around pieces of art, a mural that went up
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: about a dream time story that no one had ever
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: heard of until the mural went up, which is what
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: we're talking about here. The woman who went against all
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: of the other local Aboriginal people in her submission to
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Tanya Blibisick, which was then later used as part of
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: her justification for why the gold mine was knocked back,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: included her artworks to demonstrate the connection to the land
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: and how bad it would be for this gold mine
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: to go ahead, and how it is going to destroy
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the joint. Like, seriously, we are not a serious country anymore.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: We've got hologram abber.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Concerts that counsels want to pay lots of money for.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: We've got weird megafauna things going up in rurals. The
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Minister for the environ is making decisions about gold mines
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: on the basis of pieces of art. I mean, what
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: is going on? You could not script this stuff. Forget
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: about utopia. Real government is the worst thing you've ever seen.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: It's an absolute for USCO.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Hadn't heard from Meghan Markle for a while, but she's.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Popped up again.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: And guess what she's claiming to be a victim's coming
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: up in a moment. Well, you've heard that old expression
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: pot calling the kettle black. It doesn't get more relevant
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: than this. Meghan Markle claims that she is one of
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: the most bullied people in the world. She was speaking
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: to a group of girls at a mental health session
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: in California. These young girls all struggling and trying to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: find their way in the world, and so Meghan of
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: course made it.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: All about herself.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Larissa May, who's from told Vanity Fair we did an
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: activity where we talked through a bunch of scenarios and
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Meghan talked about being one of the most bullied people
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: in the entire world. You know, part of being a
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: royal and one of the wonderful things about the royal
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: family is traditionally they've not made it about themselves, but
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: they've drawn attention to other people and let them take
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: the spotlight.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: But not Meghan Markle.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: She's got to be the center of attention everywhere she goes,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: and even with a bunch of little girls struggling with
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: mental health issues. No, no, Meghan is the real victim
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: in the room. But not only that, she's got to
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: be a bit careful because, of course, there were claims
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: of bullying against Meghan Markel from Pallace staff who used
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: to call her quote dictator in high heels and talk
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: about the fact that she could quote.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Reduce grown men to tears.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Will she certainly reduced Harry to something, so she ought
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: to be careful is with some of the stuff she says.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: But this is typical Meghan Markle and exactly the reason
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: why I think the Royal Family are better off without her.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Leopard can't change its spots and the Yoko owner of
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: the Royal Family will not be changing her spots anytime.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: When you said pot calling the kettle black, I thought
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: you were going to go down a racial road there.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I was like hanging on for dear life for him,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: and I thought, on no, he's not going to do it?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Is he anyway? Good saved by mister macpherson here now.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: We talked last night about the fact that Bruce Lehreman
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: apparently can't.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Get a job of any description.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: His lawyer, in the process of trying to get an
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: appeal on his defamation case, said he might be reduced
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: to doing only fans. Well, the story rolls on today.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Do I have the Christmas stocking stuffer for you? Melbourne
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: University Press has decided that he is going to publish
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: a book that is the judgment that was handed down
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: in the case. You will remember Justice Michael Lee who
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: handed down the case and he became a bit of
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: a minor celebrity throughout the whole thing with his dry wit.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Melbourne University Press is now publishing a book of his
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: bloody judgment. By the way, he's had nothing to do
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: with it. They didn't contact available online. They didn't talk
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: to Brittneyigins either. What sort of a mud do you
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: have to be to buy for forty dollars a book
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: for something you can get online.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: For front When you said it's a Christmas stocking stuff
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: or it's a stocking stuff as someone you hate your
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: stocking that person does not like you.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: That's it from us stick around though. Coming up is
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the reader Pennety Show