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86 I Thought Vampires Were a Joke Until This Interview · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: She switched her hand out and she says, hello, my
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  Speaker 1: name is Cecilia or something like that, and I took
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  Speaker 1: her hand. I took it, and I made it fell
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  Speaker 1: out shaking hands with a dead person, okay. And I've
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  Speaker 1: been around a lot of dead bodies, okay, And that's
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  Speaker 1: what it fell like. I mean, not just cold, you
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  Speaker 1: know how some people have a problem with cold hands
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  Speaker 1: and cold. It was beyond that. It was just like
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  Speaker 1: it was dead flag.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. This week we
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  Speaker 2: had on doctor Dennis Carroll. He's a paranormal investigator, he's
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  Speaker 2: a podcaster, he's an author. And this week we got
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  Speaker 2: into vampires and werewolves actually too, so you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you're into that, what's also on here, but mainly vampires,
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  Speaker 2: and we got into you know, different types of vampires,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the energy type, the blood and flesh ones,
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  Speaker 2: the undead, the demonic, and his encounters with them, and
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  Speaker 2: one particular encounter towards the end of the episode where
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  Speaker 2: he was in a.
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  Speaker 3: Cemetery and a young woman walked up to him and
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  Speaker 3: started talking to him. Quite an experience. If you have
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  Speaker 3: any strange encounters or you have something that you want
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  Speaker 3: to tell me. Please do me a favor and write
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  Speaker 3: me an email at the Eye of Jupiter podcast at
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  Speaker 3: gmail dot com, THEI of Jupiter Podcast at gmail dot com,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll have you on the show and we'll go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and talk about those experiences and encounters. Either way,
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  Speaker 3: just reach out and I'll have you on. So enjoy
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  Speaker 3: this episode with doctor Dennis Carroll.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening, whatever may be there. I always I always
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  Speaker 1: begin my podcast with the good evening, good afternoon of
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  Speaker 1: the morning, wherever you may be in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I am currently on a mountain time, so it is
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  Speaker 2: seven o'clock for me, but later this year I will
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  Speaker 2: be on Central time because Mexico doesn't do daily savings time,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So, So how's it going with you? How
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  Speaker 2: are you today?
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  Speaker 1: Doing good and pretty good. It's kind of downtime for
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  Speaker 1: me to getting ready for my podcast tomorrow night, and
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  Speaker 1: so I've been doing some research and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool, do me a favorite, man, tell us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about yourself where we can find you and
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  Speaker 2: promote anything that you'd like to promote. Please.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm a I'm a doctor of metaphysics without philosophy,
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  Speaker 1: doctor y and theology and I've been involved in the occult,
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  Speaker 1: the paranormal and all that the supernatural investigation of it
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  Speaker 1: well over half a century now. I started back when
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  Speaker 1: I was about fourteen fifteen years old and I had
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  Speaker 1: an experience then that sort of lit the fire under
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  Speaker 1: me to find out about the unseen aspects of this universe.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what started me on my journey I have.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I tell people a lot of times that
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  Speaker 1: I don't just want one particular glass of the paranormal
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  Speaker 1: by I want the whole bye, and so I went
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  Speaker 1: into demonology, demonology, at ufo ology, cryptozoology of the whole works.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it also the fact is I love folklore.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a member of the American Folklore Society and also
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  Speaker 1: a member of the Ghost Club of England. And so
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  Speaker 1: it's been an interesting journey now through the years looking
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  Speaker 1: into all these different things. And I really only tagged
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  Speaker 1: myself as more or less a less sagative researcher into
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  Speaker 1: these things. But you know, the good thing about it,
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  Speaker 1: tomes I've been able to help a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: over the years, and that's that means a lot to me.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just my experiencing things and having you know,
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  Speaker 1: experiences in that is being able to actually help people.
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  Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I have become something of a
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  Speaker 1: paranormal consultant for people all over the world with their
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  Speaker 1: paranormal problems and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of like that too. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of like dipping my toes and everywhere. I just
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  Speaker 2: like to provide people with a place that where they
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  Speaker 2: can come and tell their side of the story because
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these people, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: confront you know, encryptids, or they're confronting demons, or they're
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  Speaker 2: confronting ghosts or anything out of the ordinary, and you
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  Speaker 2: just feel ostracized and you just have no place to
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  Speaker 2: go to talk to anybody. And I want them to
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  Speaker 2: be able to come here and feel comfortable with it. Uhud,
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  Speaker 2: do be a favor. Tell me a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: The Midnight Hunter. What is that? What is that? A podcast?
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  Speaker 2: You got the.
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  Speaker 1: Storage times they've tagged me as so do they come
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  Speaker 1: with the Midnight a Hunter in a way? And that
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  Speaker 1: kind of and also it's connected with my podcast Hunting
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  Speaker 1: of the Shadows. I like to think upon these things
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  Speaker 1: as sort of like shadows of the physical world around
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  Speaker 1: us and Uh, that's why I became a doctor of
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  Speaker 1: metaphysics to understand how the unseen, you know, uh, operations
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  Speaker 1: with a scene aspects of our of our universe. And
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  Speaker 1: so uh that's kind of what they tag me as
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  Speaker 1: sort of the mid nine hunter, because I've hunted a
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  Speaker 1: lot in the daytime too. Definitely, I wanted a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things over the years. I've looked for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of cryptids, a lot of ghosts, a lot of demons,
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  Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on. I've tracked werewolves,
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  Speaker 1: I've tracked I've had, you know, instance, encounters with vampires.
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  Speaker 1: I have actually here, you know, I'm writing a book
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  Speaker 1: right now. It's called Paracryptislog paracryptis Altage is called Honting
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  Speaker 1: Monsters and Things of Night. Mari and I have on
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  Speaker 1: the back of the book this statement, Okay, and I
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  Speaker 1: have always, i mean since dayed once, since I can remember.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been interested in the supernatural and the paranormal.
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  Speaker 1: But here's what I put on the back. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when you are a child, you believe in monsters, true,
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  Speaker 1: then you go up to find out they are real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's awesome. That is that is awesome. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: a quick question about like, okay, you say midnight hunter.
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  Speaker 2: You know they always say there's the Witching hour. Why
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  Speaker 2: is it that, like paranormal activity is more prevalent in
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  Speaker 2: the night than it is during the day, because it
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  Speaker 2: does exist during today too, But why is it more
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  Speaker 2: prevalent during the night.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there is one certain time of the night check
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  Speaker 1: Tree call it the witching hour, which really goes from
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  Speaker 1: midnight on till about four o'clock in the morning. And
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  Speaker 1: there is actually a twofold answer to that. Sure one
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  Speaker 1: thing is the darkness of this world. The evil or
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  Speaker 1: whatever name you want to attack it with, sort of
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  Speaker 1: is making them a mockery of the hour three o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: That's the main demonic hour, three am. And it was
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  Speaker 1: supposedly that at three o'clock in the afternoon is when
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  Speaker 1: Jesus expired on the cross, So they're sort of making
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  Speaker 1: a mockery of that. But there is also a physical
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  Speaker 1: explanation for that. I've investigated a lot of times and
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  Speaker 1: have seen demonic power rise up to the very point
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  Speaker 1: of about three to four o'clock in the morning, and
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  Speaker 1: then it slowly begins to dissipate. And here's an interesting,
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  Speaker 1: an interesting little tas for you on that. That is
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  Speaker 1: exactly when the earth itself begins to turn back towards
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  Speaker 1: the sun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well it actually starts to kind of think
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  Speaker 2: over power. Yeah, it isn't also like the three knocks,
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  Speaker 2: like a three knocks some type of like you know,
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  Speaker 2: messing with the trilogy kind of thing. Isn't that also
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  Speaker 2: part of it? That's trilogy? Yeah, it was trilogy. What
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  Speaker 2: are we talking?
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: The Trinity the trilogy? Now? That was really good man. Thanks,
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  Speaker 2: there we go. I'm good on that one. So is
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  Speaker 2: isn't the three knocks or or the talking in the
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  Speaker 2: left of ear? Because I've heard that myself, where you
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  Speaker 2: will hear the voices for me when I do hear them,
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  Speaker 2: which has not been often in my life. A couple
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  Speaker 2: of times, two three times. It's always seemed to be
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  Speaker 2: in my left ear. Do you have anything that you
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  Speaker 2: can add to that?
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  Speaker 1: Well? That ties directly into witchcraft, you know, which is
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  Speaker 1: also known as the left hand pass. The left hand
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  Speaker 1: path is mentioned in the Bible, actually in and I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting into theology now, but it kind of is mentioned
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  Speaker 1: in there as being sort of the direction of evil
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  Speaker 1: right is the direction of good and left is the
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  Speaker 1: direction of evil, so to speak. You know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times these things like I have actually been attacked
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  Speaker 1: by the demonic on many occasions, and I have been
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  Speaker 1: scratched and they always leave three marks like on you.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's the three scratch marks on you, and they
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  Speaker 1: did if they do things in three, And if you'll
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  Speaker 1: think about it, here's another interesting mathem mathematical sort of
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  Speaker 1: part of this. The mathematical part is three is the
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  Speaker 1: derivatives of the number six, and six is the number
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  Speaker 1: of Satan and demons. So that's how that ties into it.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's a funny thing. And I was
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  Speaker 1: talking about this very thing that somebody know ongo that
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  Speaker 1: there is a mathematical property attached to the supernatural as well.
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  Speaker 1: And mathematics are definitely the foundation of the universe itself,
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  Speaker 1: So why would it not be an involvement of the
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  Speaker 1: mathematics in it.
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  Speaker 2: I think even who said that, I think it was Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: If you know the if you know the connection between three,
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  Speaker 2: six and nine, you can understand the universe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he thought about He also talked about
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  Speaker 1: the three major things frequency, vibration, and energy, right, those
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  Speaker 1: three things that is supposedly is what the universe is
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  Speaker 1: made of. And I definitely when you get into the
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  Speaker 1: things the spiritual nature, which science doesn't have a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot to do is. But you know, that's denying a
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  Speaker 1: whole big section of the universe around us, the spiritual
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  Speaker 1: aspects of things. When you get into that, that's where
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  Speaker 1: the spiritual aspects are coming from. In any ways from that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mathematical property.
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  Speaker 2: I can see right now, I'm gonna have to have
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  Speaker 2: you back on again and then get in to get
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  Speaker 2: into some other things. I would love to pick your brain,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like I feel I have so many questions
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  Speaker 2: that tonight I don't want to really get into, but
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  Speaker 2: we will get into in the future, if you would
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  Speaker 2: be so kind to go back on in the future.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason I contacted today is because I've seen
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  Speaker 2: you on Jim Powell's on his show The Night's Watch,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, I just seen I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh wow, I didn't look into it, honestly, didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I know Jim, and I know Jim is awesome, and
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  Speaker 2: Jim is great, He's a great podcaster. And I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: if he had him on that I definitely need to
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  Speaker 2: talk to them. And the reason I reached out to
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  Speaker 2: you and you were so kind as to respond and say, sure,
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  Speaker 2: I come on, you were something about vampires. What can
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  Speaker 2: you tell me about your you know, what they are,
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  Speaker 2: your experiences, and let's kind of like get into this
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  Speaker 2: and maybe break it down chronologically or you know you're
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  Speaker 2: through thought process on it and et cetera. Could you
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  Speaker 2: do that for me please?
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the interesting thing about vampire When you get
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  Speaker 1: into monster hunting, I like to call the monsters, that's
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  Speaker 1: what they are basically. But then when you get into
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  Speaker 1: these supernatural creatures, and I've had several different types of encounters.
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  Speaker 1: I've encountered skin walkers, I've encountered wishes that were doing things.
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  Speaker 1: As the list goes on and on. Life have tracked werewolves.
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  Speaker 1: I've tracked the wampat cat through the mountains of North
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  Speaker 1: Carolina one time. I've been on the trail a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these things. And you've got to understand one thing,
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  Speaker 1: very important thing about monsters, uh, is that they are
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  Speaker 1: more intricate than you think. They're like several different types
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  Speaker 1: of were wolves. A lot of people don't realize this,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not just talking about dog Man supposed to
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  Speaker 1: wear wolf. There are different types of wear wolves that
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  Speaker 1: you can deal with, just as there are different types
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  Speaker 1: of vampires that you know that you deal with, and
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  Speaker 1: I have dealt with a few of them on my
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  Speaker 1: own as well. I've actually done a lot of vampire
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  Speaker 1: hunting in the past, and it's not what you see
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  Speaker 1: in the movies. It's definitely not like that, but it
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  Speaker 1: has some ramifications of that. But what you're dealing with,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to understand most of the time, is a
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  Speaker 1: demonic fear type thing, and whether it inhabits a decomposing body,
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  Speaker 1: or whether it inhabits somebody a living body, or whether
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of these young people that get involved
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  Speaker 1: in vampire cults, and there are actual vampire cults sort
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  Speaker 1: of like motorcycle games. They get together, they control some
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  Speaker 1: of these cities. They're different than the kids, the goth
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  Speaker 1: kids doing the vampire thing. So you've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different vamps you're looking at here. Some are truly
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  Speaker 1: the undead, they're not living things. Some are spiritual aspects
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  Speaker 1: of this thing, sort of lut the money. And then
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  Speaker 1: you have human valnires and then on top of that
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  Speaker 1: you've got sacking and energy valnbres extensive, yes, and extensives live.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, the energy vampire is for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Those people will latch onto you and they're very negative
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  Speaker 2: and they start by being very you know, nice, and
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  Speaker 2: they seem to be nice, and next thing you know,
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  Speaker 2: slowly they wear on you and they start you know,
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  Speaker 2: they they they're uncomfortable to be around, and they always
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  Speaker 2: seem to have negativity surrounding them and they bring you down. Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a little bit like I kind of come
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  Speaker 2: out of through maybe a little bit more of an
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  Speaker 2: Eastern mysticism point of view, but those for me absolutely
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  Speaker 2: experienced those myself. So yeah, please let's go. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: into it.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever ones that you know that you've had experiences with,
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  Speaker 2: you can you tell me a little bit. And yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm all ears, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had trouble cases. Well, I land on a
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  Speaker 1: few of the cases and now if you want to,
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  Speaker 1: but I've had trouble cases that had different types of
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  Speaker 1: the umpires. I had one case that was actually involved
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  Speaker 1: with voodoo. I got a call from a near group
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  Speaker 1: that was nearby to the city where I live, and
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  Speaker 1: they said, we you know, we heard about you, and
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  Speaker 1: we know you know a good bit about voodoo and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and we've had a case come up
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  Speaker 1: like that. And it turned out. I won't go too
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  Speaker 1: deep into it, it's a long story, but it turned
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  Speaker 1: out that this lady, well a man and her husband
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  Speaker 1: actually who owned a dog grooming service, were visited by
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  Speaker 1: a Mama Loa who moved into the neighborhood. Now Mama
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  Speaker 1: Loa is a voodoo pricist, okay, and she had actually
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  Speaker 1: put a curse on this woman. She gave a woman
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  Speaker 1: some kind of weird black liquid and said, keep us
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  Speaker 1: in your house, honey, you know you'll have money and
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  Speaker 1: you'll have good fortune and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and which the wrong thing to do, definitely. She just
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of these people who have and
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  Speaker 1: we won't get into wishes and I that's the story
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  Speaker 1: for another time, but a lot of these people who
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  Speaker 1: have inherit magical dark magical dark arts stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: Some of their hobbies of these people are just to
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  Speaker 1: see how much they can bedevil people, how much they
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  Speaker 1: can miss their lives up, how much they can use
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  Speaker 1: this control over them. A lot of times you don't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what this woman was doing with her. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is very nice woman. There was a nice couple
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  Speaker 1: and she did this and they began to have some
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  Speaker 1: bad stuff going on in their house. And one of
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  Speaker 1: the bad things was that this lady who did the
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  Speaker 1: dog room. And here's what she told me. She said, said,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Carol, I have been able to do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ten or twelve dogs a day. And now I'm lucky
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  Speaker 1: if I do want her to. She said, I have
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  Speaker 1: lost all my energy, you know, I've and I've gone
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  Speaker 1: to the doctor. There's nothing wrong with me. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a naemic. I don't have any clauthlems that way. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what. But ever since I took that low
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  Speaker 1: all of liquid, this has been happening to me. She said.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like there's something on my back drawing energy
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  Speaker 1: out of me. Well maybe when I heard that, I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a vampire spirit. Okay, Now, valmire spirit is
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  Speaker 1: a demonic enterity. They can attach to you and draw
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  Speaker 1: the life energy out of you a little bit by
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And we have in the state of
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina where I live, we have what's called A.
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  Speaker 1: We have a an entity called A. It's sort of
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  Speaker 1: like a skin walker, but it can attach to you
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  Speaker 1: and draw the life breath out of you. And every
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  Speaker 1: breath you take is shorter and shorter and shorter, and
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  Speaker 1: it sits on your chest supposedly and draws energy very
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  Speaker 1: much like the night Hag. You hear people say, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is. That's sort of like an energy v umpires someoney.
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  Speaker 1: It's drawing the very essence of your life's soul out
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  Speaker 1: of you. That's what it's doing. And I warned people
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  Speaker 1: about this song. I tell them, I tell you, look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you've got listen very close to what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to say. You've gotten an energy field around you.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of a spiritual field. And that's what we
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  Speaker 1: call our personal space. We don't like, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: to get into our personal space. It makes us uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Even animals have a personal space, dogs and cats, they
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  Speaker 1: exhibit this. I think this is something our creator built
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  Speaker 1: into us. It's sort of a safe up thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we can feel that something gets in our personal space.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of what I call bruising or spiritually like mess.
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  Speaker 1: It's messing with us. And if it gets too deep,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: too deep into you a personal space, it can start
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: transferring energy in or out. Most of the time it's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: taking it out, but it can also put bad energy
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: back into you as well. And I've had a lot
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of cases people come up and make a well, I'll
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: just shook hands with this person, or this person just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: put their hand on my shoulder. Now I'm having horrific mindmares,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm having energy problems, I'm having you know, things going
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: on online. This is what these things will do to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you sometimes. This is what these people can do to you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: They're exhibiting what I call dark psychic tendencies against this
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and these things. They can either draw the energy from
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you or implant bad energy in you. And here's the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: interesting thing to think about a lot of people, why
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: would they want to put bad energy in you? Well,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: here's what the cycle is on it. They put the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: bad energy in you and then draw it back out again.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like a perpetual spiritual emotion machine thing
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: on on you. They're feeding they're putting negative energy in
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you and feeding off of that negative energy that you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: begin to generate from that. I've seen that demonic do
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: this in many different forms. They live a lot of
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: people call the you know, the bad, the bad vibes,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the bad energy, that the negative. They live all of
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: this stuff. That's where they get their energy. They energize
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: us all people. Yeah, these people that are doing that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: are doing that the very thing to you when they
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: get in your personal space, touch you and all that. Uh.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I've warned people, be careful who you let in that space,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Be careful who you shake hands with, who you interact with.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Of course, everybody out there is not out for your
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you know, all the good intentions in the world, some
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of them are not.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could that that could even affect you? For example,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: if you're watching just like nowadays, let's go ahead and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: bring it today. If you're watching constant, awful, horrible news
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and you do all you hear is negativity, that's also
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the same thing, isn't it. Aren't They just using it
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: as a like, you know, like a portal the television
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and psychically draw your your positive energy
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: away from you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But there are some people tom who can give you
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a high vibe energy. These are healers. This is what
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: they do. They can heal you that way. Or or
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a what I like to call it is put your
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: your spiritual aspects of you in balance. Okay, that's how
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that begins to help you heal in certain ways. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: we're talking about spiritually healing, and also this goes into
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: physical healing as well. But you gotta always remember the
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: body and the physical body and the spiritual body are
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: hooked together with that golden cord. There's a definite connection there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And what if one gets out of boalance, the other
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: one goes that way too. And some of these people
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: are born with that ability to be able to transfer
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: what I call the high vibrations. You've got two things
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in this world and you got to watch out for it,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: low vibrational entities and high vibrational energy. And sometimes the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: low vibrational energy energies will you down and lower on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: their level because that's how they operate. See, and they
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: get they can take that, and then that's where it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: begins that process I told you about earlier where they
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: c ate that negativity and draw it off of you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You see this happening in a lot of cult activity
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: with blood samples and stuff that they take out of people.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: In your blood energized blood which is energized mostly by
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: fear and high emotions and trauma, is like a narcotic
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to these people. That's what Baumbyer's looked for. They're looking
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: for that, and it's a narcotic effect. Put it this way.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: You've got you've got blood, and then you've got sort
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of the French chambaine of blood. Okay, and that's what
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that is. That's what they're looking for, and they're highly
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: addicted to this stuff and it it energizes them. As
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I think I saw an article
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the other day where they have actually I think proven
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to a certain degree that young blood will if you,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you know, depending on how you want to take it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in whether you bathe in it or whether you drink
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it or whatever. The said, we're injected. It has a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: tendency that gives you more of a handle on use.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's the founder youth, but there
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: are exhibit properties of rejuvenation that you will not find
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and other things. And that's what vaum mares are looking for,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: real true voum bires. They're seeking rejuvenation, not only physical,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but spiritual rejuvenation as well.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's a question I have. It's it's kind of personal.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get into too many details. Now,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: could a person stay in the past, A person have
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: something very bad happen to them, and this person kind
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: of takes their power away, it takes their loose away,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: or it takes their interpositive energy away, and it affects
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: them negatively their whole life. And uh, and then another
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: person comes along, is in a relationship with that person,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: can go was then emotions and negative feelings then be
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: pulled through you as well, like through like they're the intermediary.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: If you know what I mean, Well, you know I've talked,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I've counted a lot of people with these problems and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes things traumatic, things that happened in our past. I've
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: had some owns. If we all have episodes of that,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I think once in a while that can very badly
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: affect us. And I'm gonna tell you what. It doesn't
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: not only affects you mentally, but it affects you not
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: just physically. It may leave physical scars, but it affects
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you spiritually as well. And if you get scarred deeping
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: though spiritually it never goes away. But here's what I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: tell people, and I caution them about this. If you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: had something in the past that still has a hold
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on you, it's a good idea to break that as
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: soon as possible because and I tell people this, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I won't you listen very closely to what I say
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of this evil darkness, whatever name you want to take
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it with, wants to keep you as a victim because
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it fears you as a lawyer. Right And once you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: understand that key, you can kind of get what I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: call a leg up in the saddle. You ready to ride,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: You get on that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Understand that bad things happen to everybody, okay, and bad
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: things can affect us, but you don't want to remain
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a victim to it forever. I'm an ex cop. I've
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: been in law enforcement. I retired out of law enforcement,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and I used to talk to a lot of victims,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: women that were reviews and stuff like that, and I say, well,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the look, you know, you've got to allow yourself time
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to heal, and you gotta start trying to put this
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: past in your past and not let it have a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: hold on you in the present and definitely not in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: your future, because it will ruin your life. If you
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: let it. You've got to move past this point spiritually, physically,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and mentally and emotionally. These are the four ways the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: demonic forces will attack you. I call it the four
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: gates that they come after. There's several other gates, but
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I call those of the whole main gates mentally, physically, spiritually,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and emotionally. Once you get a handle on these things
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and bias them out the right way they need to be,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: then you can be more of a whole and healed person.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But unless something is holding you by and keeping a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: hold on you from the past, you need to break that, okay,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: because you got to remember something very important. There's not
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a whole lot you can do about the past. Its horror,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it's done with, it's behind you. But you can do
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: something about here and now in the future. Yes, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that's what you've got to keep keep in mind. Definitely.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you are killing it. Man. I love everything
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you're saying. That for me is all. That's what I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: all about. Man, It's like, you know, you have to.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I think a big part of that is people will
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: not honestly reflect upon themselves. They will not honestly look
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: into the shadows of themselves. If they're negatively affecting someone
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: in their life because of something that happened to them
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: in the past, and they won't be honest with themselves
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: about it and they won't fix that, then they can't
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: move on and they can't move forward. So that is
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: an incredible message. Man, I really really like that. That's
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's my that's my shit. Excuse me, but
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm into part part in the expression. But
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I really really really enjoyed that. That is that is incredible.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Now let's get into like the actual physical ones, the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: ones that we may you know, I know you said
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: are not Hollywood like, but that are that are similar
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to that, like where they actually do something of that nature.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: What can you tell me about those?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I had several several cases in the past
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: where it actually had me physical entities like show up
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: in now. Like I said earlier, there are two main
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: categories as you guys think about about the undead. There
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: can be a demonic reanimation of the dead, which is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: where you get into uh, watching a on is a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: necromance tea. You know, that's a very dark part of it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: You know you've heard of that, and you're raising the dead,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you're contacting the dead, and you're doing stuff like that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But also this is where vampires can be born that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: way as well. You can reanimate the day at corpse
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: by putting and placing, just like a ti big box,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you're placing a spirit, a dark spirit in that body.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But now while you're dealing with there, it's going to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: be something that deteriorates, very much like a zombie in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: some ways. It's going to deteriorate over time. Okay, But
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: then you have another kind of undead almhire, which is
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: partially human physically and partially spiritually. And this operates too.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: It is also demonic in many aspects. You know, you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: have to keep going back to a very rude of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the cause of a lot of this stuff, and it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: is definitely demonic and it's nature. But you got to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: understand this. They operate in two different ways. A true
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: undead vampire can be someone who has lived for centuries
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and they keep resuming that in themselves. Awful blood.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: This is a true.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Vampire that we're talking about here. Now you've got undead
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: vampires that can be reanimated, corpses that can be sent
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: out as assassins or whatever mission you want to send
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: them on. They can be done that way too. You're
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: actually raising a demon inside of a dead body, that's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: what you're doing with it. And these things can be
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: controlled by dark sorcerers or dark witches or witch guy
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: in that respect. So you've got different times. Like I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: said before, you got many different types of vampires that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you're dealing with. The most dangerous one of all would
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: definitely be the part physical, part spiritual valumbire. These guys
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: can use I don't know if you're familiar with the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: term I'm about to use, but they can exhibit tendencies
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: of illusional glamour on you. Now by that, I mean
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they can make you see things they want you to see.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: But what's not necessarily really that, So they exhibit powers,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they exhibit demonic powers. Let me tell you this, there
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: are certain aspects and where werewolves and vound byres come from.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: They are mostly by products of climbing the dark witchcraft ladder.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You reach certain levels, you can become these things. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: can become a valmire, you can become a werewolf. You
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: can turn into a lion or a tier or whatever
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: it is you fancy is you can do this shape
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: shifting thing and turn into this. But it takes intense,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: very dark and very powerful demonic energy to do this,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: but it can be done. And you don't want to hear.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You don't want to know how what you have to
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: do to do this horrible to get to this level.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: You don't have had people. I have had young people
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: come to be with you. Tell me how do I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: become aware wolf? How can I become a vampire? I said,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you don't want to go that way. You definitely don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: want to take that dark road, because there's no coming
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: back from it. When you step over too far until
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the darkness, you will reach a point of no return.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And if the darkness will eat you up alive, it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: will eat your soul, will lead all of you, you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: will become the darkness. And I tell these young people
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: you don't want to go. You don't want to mess
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: with that. I can tell you how to become a werewolf.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I can tell you how you count, but you don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: need to know that because you might be tempted to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: do it, and that would be definitely a bad idea
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: on anybody's part. They did that, but these people have
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: sold out completely to the darkness. They have attained this
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: demonic power. They use it. The werewolf, by the way,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: which is my favorite cryptid of all, is a prime
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: example of an apex predator that is a psychotic killer.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He is a killer on land like a shark would
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: be in water. Once the werewolf gets on your trail,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he gets your sin. I mean they literally, Okay, he
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: will not stop until he tas you into pieces and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: eats you. Just the way it works. And a lot
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of people come to me, Tom said, was this the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: work of a dog man? Or was this the work
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of a werewolf? I say, look, if there's any pieces left,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it's probably dog. If there's no beaeces left, it's probably werewolf.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: That's just the way it works. Werewolf in joys what
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: he's doing. He he bathes in your blood, in your
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: flesh while he's eating it. He enjoys it. Arctic killer.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He's not just killing you because you're in the way
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: or something. Dog Man might do that to you. I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, just one thing I remember about
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: dog man and wear wolf. Okay, if people have asked
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: me a lot of times, how do you tell a
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: difference in them here's the one distinct difference. If we
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: do not have them any were wolf reports. Why because
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: nobody ever lives to get them. Okay, And here's what
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I mean by that. If you encounter will werewolf nine
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: nine under chance you get if you live to tell
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: about that, you are incredibly lucky. Dude, You are definitely
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: incredibly lucky. Dall Man will usually cut your brake and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you will walk away from the experience. Werewolf will not.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Let you do that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You will definitely not walk away from that because once,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: like I said, it gets in the killing. It's like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a shark gets in that blood mode. It doesn't stop.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: That's it, that's just working. But that is the demonic
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: rage behind it. Vampires are very much like that, except
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they've got more control over it than the werewolf does,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: because the werewolf gives more into the bestual side of things,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the animalistic side, whereas in the vampire what makes him
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: so darned dangerous, He's still got the mind of a man,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: right and that said he told him in weapon and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: so as the werewolf, that's what makes him dangerous. He
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: still got the mind of a man. But the beast
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: can overcome the man. But with a vampire. He can
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: overcome his condition and control it more so, that's what
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: makes him so insidiously.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You will, that's so fascinating, because I mean, I just
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: recently ran across an adult man. Honestly know. He said
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: it was the size of a grizzly bear. That's what
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: he told me, the gentleman. And he was afraid to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: go back out there. And he finally went out there
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: with his wife and she wanted to go to bathroom
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: on the side of the truck around the back quarter
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: panel there, and she's screaming and hollering, and he could.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: He jumps out the truck and this thing's got her
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: by the arm. He shoots it four times with a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: forty four right. I talked to the gentleman and he
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: said it left no blood trail. It barely even winced,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and it ran away from him. And he's talking about,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out there. I'm upset. I'm gonna go
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: get this thing got it. And I told him, man,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to do that. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: think he's just best just to stay away. I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: it's just about to stay away these things like okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: like characteristically speaking, we're kind of all over the map here.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: But you're you're, you're you're incredible at what you're saying.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Like everything you're saying is lining up with the with
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the the experiencers that I'm talking to. Like, what would
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: be the difference physically? You told me the difference, you know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: like and their motivation and how they go about it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: But physically, what's the difference between a dog man and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a werewolf?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: The main thing about the doll man the werewolfs You
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: got to remember it is very important. The dog man
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: is dog man twenty four to seven. The werewolf, on
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the other hand, could be your next door neighbor, You
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: could be married to a werewolf. And I know, see,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. The doll man, he's always
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: dog man. He's gonna be dog man from now on.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: That's what he doesn't change. But here's the interesting thing
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: about the werewolf. The werewolf. When anybody that uses shape
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: shifting abilities, which are very dark and insidious and very
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: evil talents, okay, it's never for a good thing. Anybody
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that does this stuff. Tom eventually they get to the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: point where they lose their humanity. It becomes harder and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: harder for them to get that humanity baby. Eventually, one
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: day they're gonna be stuck whoever and where will form.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That's just the way it's going to And usually that
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: will be the day of their destruction. That will be
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the day they go down the jube. You might say,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: that will be when they'll either unlive by themselves.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: The werewolf can commits an wants to it can depart
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: this world, and they may do that. They may take
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that route out. The self destruction is very powerful with
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: these things. But you got to remember one thing in
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: dividing the dog men from the werewolf. The dog man
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is more apart supposedly of nature in some ways. But
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I think it can be conjured too. I think it
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: can be part of dark witchcraft, and some in says absolutely.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of cases people who reported me
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: as even hearing ritual chants with dog man doing tons
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: of ritual chance out there. Yeah, I think there can't
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: be that connection. But there's more attached to the animal
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: kingdom then the werewolf. The werewolf is more attached to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the the mooney in that respect. That's where his base
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: of power, that's where he's plugged into the the money
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and anything that plugs into that. My friend is one
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: of the most dangerous things that walks his planet because
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that is the true power of darkness, and he gets
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: things done, the horrific things. It not only controls the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: mind and the body, for the spirit as well. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's where it comes into the line with that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: When you've got like like I mentioned earlier, about that balance,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: if you balance that in the wrong way, demonically speaking,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you become a very powerful individual. Absolutely, but not for
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: good definitely not for good reasons. I had, akay, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: had a case of the vampire case. I'll tell you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: about this right. I had a young lady come to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: me and she told me this very interesting story. She said,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: doctor Carroll, I want you know, I saw you on TV.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I think she saw me on television. Said I wanted
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to you know, I wanted to get we didn't tell
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you about my problem? And I said, sure, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I talked to all the people about all the problems
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of death. So well, I met her at a restaurant
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and you're where she lived. She told me this story.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: She said, my mother and I have never gotten along.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: My mother is a very vindictive, malevolent, evil person. My
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: mother's got to run everybody, so we were all along.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: People like that, okay, She said, she is just you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: narcissistic to the max, you know, and my mother has
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: just always been this way. She's an unforgiving person. She's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: just you know, just dark. And said, me and my mother,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: we never got along.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I take my wife and my father and then I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: do my mother. You know, I'm not like her, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: but my mother always kind of around my life. Said well,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: my mother came to me a few months ago and said, look,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I'm dying of cancer. You know, I'm not going to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I got maybe a couple of months and I'm going
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to live with you to thend. You know, I got
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: no wheels to go. And her mother even you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: said her mother said she would tell her mother, you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: got to fight the cancer. You know, you need to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: fight the cancer and not be fighting everybody else around you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You need to fight the cancer, you know. But your
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: mother wouldn't do that. She just said she never changed.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I worse you know in her outlook
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: on things. And said, my mother stayed with me for
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the last few you know days of her life, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: my mother she never changed, got worse and she said
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: she made one request cover. She said, I have a
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: white satin gown that I want to be buried in. Okay,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and she gave her the gowns. She said, please make sure.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And that's my last thing I want. And I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: want to be buried in this because I had a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: lot of good time parties and all this in it
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and I want to be buried in it.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And she says, pure mother, I do whatever you want,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I do whatever you want. And so so
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: when her mother passed away, she had her buried in
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: this gown and she said, here's what it gets interest in.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Doctor Carrol says, for the last my mother. I'm buried
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: my mother two weeks ago, and every night since the funeral,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: my mother has been coming back to me in my dreams.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: And said, she's not acting like my mother. She's not,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you know, she's she's she's loving, and she's you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: putting around my neck and holding on to me and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: trying to kiss me and doing all these things. She's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: wearing that white gown in this dream, you know. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: she said, and this is really bothering me. This this
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: is a nightmare. I said, it's not like, you know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a bloody night man. But this is a nightmare that's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: just really bothering me deep down inside that these nights,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and it's getting worse and worse every night. I don't
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: even want to go to sleep anymore, you know, I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: don't want to dream this. And the same thing, he said,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And my mother has this is ealing feeling of evil
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: around her in this dream, you know, and said that,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: she said, She said, honest, I believe my mother is
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a lambire. She don't know. I wants I'm kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a lambire or something. She's not resting, you know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: She's not on.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So when I heard this, I said, oh, okay, this
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: sounds very interesting. Definitely I think you would definitely have
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a problem. He said. This one more thing I didn't
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: tell you about, She said. A couple of hours ago,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I found this piece of cloth on my bedroom floor
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and looks like it come off of that down that
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I buried her in. Oh my god, she gave me
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the cloth. Sit here, daked. I don't want to. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: think I got around here somewhere else, she said, Take it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want it in my house. Said but this
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: she's I think, without doubt, come off of that dress
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and we buried her in that thing. How did he
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: get in my room days later?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: So when I heard that, that was that was the
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: icing on the cake, you know. I said, Okay, tell
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: me where your mother was buried. And she said, well,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: she's buried in a mausoleum. She told me where at,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and uh, I think it was like the third row
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in the mausoleum where it was buried at. She gave
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: me your name and all that, and I said, well, look,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: here's what I want to do for you. I'm going
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to spend the next seven nights in that cemetery because
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: according to the ancient folklore, on the seventh night of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the third week, the vampire is supposed to return, okay,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And this was about like the third week of the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: seventh night of it. So I said, look, just to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: be on the stay, said, I'll spend the next seven
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: nights out in the cemetery watching your mother's vault, okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And that's where I did for the seven long nights
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I watched. I stayed out in that cemetery watching that vault. Well,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: here's an interesting thing that happened about the third night
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: or fourth night. I see something white moving out among
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the tombstones in the cemetery up there. Okay, so I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: made this say, oh this is my hood good? You
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: know this is not good. So I got out of
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the car and I walked out there and started looking around,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and I walked up on a big white dog that
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: was sitting there. Now I'm a big dog person, okay,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: dogs like me usually. This dog was very strange. It
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: didn't get up and come to me. I called to it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: You know. It was a big white dog or something
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like a Golden retriever, but it was white, and he
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: just sat there looking at him. It's very strange. Now,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: whether that had a really true connection with this or not,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I have to wonder about it
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: because the dogs totally walked off and left. But I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: got a weird vibe off of that dog. Okay, whatever
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: whatever that means. But anyway, Uh, these nights passed when
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: nothing happened. So what I did. The girl called me
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: back a couple of days after that and said, the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: dream's still going on. It's getting worse, you know. So
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I said, there's one more thing I need to do. Okay.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I could not have the bones about eggs soon to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: do what needed to truly be done, because you got
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to get court orders and all that stuff to do that.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't going to go that route right then,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because if I had actually seen her, I would have
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: done that. Okay, But here to what I did. I said,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: let me take care of this another way. So I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: went back to the woman's vault. I took some blessed
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: chalk that I have, and I've done a lot of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: spiritual cleansing. I've done thousands of them. I've been attagged
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: by demons doing it and all kinds of things. That's
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: another program for another time too. But anyway, I put
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a cross on this vault with a blessed chalk, cast
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: salt on it and on it. It was annoying. All
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: prayed over it. And here's what I said to the woman.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I said, I called her by name. I said, I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: think her name was Sherry or somebody said, Sherry. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: want you to know something. You don't belong here anymore. Okay,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: there's no place for you here anymore. Your daughter doesn't
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: need you to be here anymore. You don't need to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: be here anymore. You need to go on to where
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you need to go okay. And I said, there's nothing
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: else to tie you here, there's nothing to hold you here.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You go on to where you need to go right now.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I let you. I release you. I released you to
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: go back into the darkness from which you came out of.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Don't you come back anymore. Don't return to your dog
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: or her daughter's name. Don't return to her, don't come back.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: You go on back into the outer darkness. Okay. So
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I called the girl back the next day and she said,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I got to meet with you. I gotta meet with you.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So I me at her again. Let's send at the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: restaurant again. And she said, what did you do? I said, well,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you mean what that I did. I hadn't told her
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: what I was going to do, you know. And she said, well,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you must have done stopping, because the dreams have stopped.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: She said, I feel a whole lot better my energies
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: by I looked, I feel like a different person. So
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like one hundred pounds has been taken on
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: my back. She said, what did you do? I said, well,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: we just put your mother to the rest for good.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And I said she won't come back about you anymore.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: And that's that's the end of the story.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: It's as extremely fascinating that the mere fact that that
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: part of the dress is found in her room, that
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: people don't understand that, like if they go on these
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: paranormal you know, hunts, whatever you want to call them
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to go and like talk to the afterlife or however,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: that is perceived by many and if they ever bring
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: anything back with them, they'll have that hitchhiker effect that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: happened to them. And the mere fact that you found
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: that in her or she found that better set in
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: her room is is so it's so incredible because I'm
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: sure she didn't like kind a piece off her mom's
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: dress and bring it with her or left it there
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: or something like that makes them no sense that she
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: found that there. That is that is incredible to me.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: That is that is so scary? What what what? What if?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: What a fascinating is encounter? Man? That is crazy. There's
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: no question.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: They're definitely definitely that. When I heard that about the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: dress the piece of the address, and I looked at it,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I said, well, and she showed me a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: picture of the dress, I said, it looks like them all.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: They're definitely you know, but I didn't want to say anymore.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: When you have clients come to you like that and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: very disturbed, very up, and it set and nervous and word,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you don't want to you know, it's found upon me.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: You don't want to make it bigger. So I try
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to downplay it with them. You know, but I don't
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: know what's going you know, I know what's going on.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: But you got to You got to always think about
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: your clients, you know, safety of us think as But uh,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: let me tell you about the next story. The encounter
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I had with a vampire girl out in the cemetery. Uh.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: This happened to me many years ago, and it was
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: one of the this This happened many years before all
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: these other cases happened. I was probably by it. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: was probably in my early twenties when this happened, and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I was in the city of Charleston, South Carolina. Was
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: busy there many times. I know that city very well,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: as I had investigated a lot there and run into
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: pirate ghosts and all that. We'll talk about anyway.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I love old cemeteries. I'm gonna tell you something about cemeteries.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I like about cemeteries. They're like an opening a history book,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you can read about the different tombstone, different battles that
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: people have fallen in all that. It's like a it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: like you know, reading a history book. In anyways, there's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of history and cemeteries and graveyards. You know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: it's the graveyard. Don't bother me. I've actually taught classes
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: out in graveyards telling people how to investigate paranormally and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: all that. Done a lot of investigations, and of course
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: as ex police officer, I could get into cemeteries. It's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: against the law, you know, after Sun said, unless you
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: have permission to do that. But anyway, oh yeah, and uh, anyway,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I was out in one of the I think exactly
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: which cemetery was. I can't remember that. I might have
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: been Saint Joseph somebody. I mean, anyways, hey, John's. There
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: are two big cemetery downtown in Charleston was one of them. Okay,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why I was there for that day.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And it was a it was a laid in on
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a fall eddy. It was late in the day. It
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: was kind of a hazy day. There wasn't that much sun. Okay,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that's important that you remember that Okay. Anyway, I was
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: out of looking at this great because I was looking
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: actually for one of the signers of the Decoration of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Independence was buried and I want to see his grave.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's what I was looking around for. And I think
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I found it, and I was not very impressed. They
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: didn't have that much of a marker on it. And
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I said, my gosh, guy, you know, it was one
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of the signers and they didn't do that much to it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I was looking at that, and I'll hear
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a voice behind me, and this female voice, she said,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: do you you like cemeteries.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Like that?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: So I turned around and there's this real pretty girl there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: She's sort of I must say, probably like maybe five
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: nine something like that, kind of pretty tall and slim,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and she had sort of dark hair, and he's very
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: pale looking, okay, and very pretty good. But I get
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: a weird vibe off of this girl then, and I
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: look at her that I said, it's just something. I'm
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: not saying. I had tamels of her and all that stuff,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: but I just thought they had a bad feeling about it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: It's just something not right here, you know, kind of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: a deal. And uh, And I think we're all build
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: with a spiritual barometer ground us. We can pick up
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: on these things if we'll only pay attention to it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Years and years of training has made me that way. Anyway,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling, you know, and she feels pretiant
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: and she takes switched her hand out and she says, hello,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: my name is Cecilia or something like that. And I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: took her hand. I took it, and I made it
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: fell out shaking hands with a dead person, okay. And
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of dead bodies, okay, and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that's what it felt like. I may not just cold,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you know how some people will have a problem with
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: cold hands and cold. It was beyond that. It was
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: just like it was dead flesh, you know what I'm saying.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: It was just no why. And I thought that was
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: kind of weird. I thought, well, maybe she got some
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: kind of disease, maybe she got some kind of infirmity
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: that causes just or something. So I kind of just
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: shrugged it off and she and I said, yes, I'm
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: very interested in cemeteries, you know. I said they're very
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: interesting and all that, and she said yes, I she said,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I just I love them too. I live here.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, that's an interesting way to put it.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you live here? And she said no,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, actually I do live here. This is my home.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: She said, I'm a vampire. I said, oh, that's very interesting,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I said, And when I thought when she
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: she said that, I thought she remember one of these,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: you know, vampire societies and all that. All the big
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: cities have them, you know. And I said, well, you're
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: in one of these vampire societies, one of these clubs
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and all that. I call them vampire country clubs, you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: something like that, you know. And she said no, no, no,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: she said, I'm the real I'm the real vampire. I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and eighty some years old, and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I'm buried here. I said, really, And I'm beginning to say,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: maybe I need to distance myself from this person, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. Uh. Maybe she got some you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: metal problems or something. And she said, no, I'm really
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: a almier, you know. And I said, well, I said
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. What are you doing out in the daytime?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: And she kind of laughed and let me tell you
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: something about the way she was dressed. By the way,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: we say this one. She's sort of modern kind of dress,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: but also kind of antique, like she had like a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: bobetone that life would have come out of eighteenth century.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: With her dress as she had on was more modern looking.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: She was a mixture of both. And I think, if
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not for sure, I remember her wearing boots maybe
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: or something, you know that was prevailing at that time,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: you know, amongst women wearing a lot of boots. Anyway,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I'm picking that up, you know. I picked that up
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: as a vibe off of her, and I said, what
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: are you doing down the daytime? You know, it's daytime.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's about like maybe an hour or so before twice here,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and it's a dark, tidy day. And she said, oh,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: we can come out in the daytime. We can day
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: walk when we want to, but it just need we
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: just don't walk out in brought sunlight, and we don't.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: We don't come out bright sunny days. We like a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: daylight to day, perfect day to go daywalking.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: That's what she said.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, that's very interesting, you know, And
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: and she had a very I began to pick up
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: a very strange live off of her. On the long run,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I talked to her. It's almost as if and here's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: what I called about it, and we're gonna get into
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the illusional glamoury thing. In the moment, it's almost as
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: she was I was seeing something that wasn't there, and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I want to explain that to you in a few minutes.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: But it was almost that I was experiencing something that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. So anyway, I said, well, I'm beginning to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: think anybody, I said, you don't get away from this person.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: This person may have a problem here. You know, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't thinking anything about ever being a real lambire, you know, uh,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in that respect. So I said, that's very interesting, you know.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: She said, well, all the things you hear about vampires
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: are not true, but but there's some things are some
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: things are and said we really need blood or something.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And that was about me. You know, I'm looking, oh, well, okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: this conversation is going mad. Yeah this is.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so I know, I.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Looked down for just a minute. I kind of looked,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and and there's nobody out in the cemetery
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: but me and her. I think there had been a
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: group of people earlier and they had moved on they'd
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: be left tourists or whatever. They moved on, and you
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: could see all through the cemetery tone I mean, there
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: was no place, there was no There's some big trees,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: but they were way over there, you know. And I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: looked down for just a moment, just a moment. Now,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I looked down, I look back up, and she was gone,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: just I mean gone. And I'm saying, that's why I
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: got the most of all. This is when I really
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: began to go and get disturbed by this. How did
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: you get gone? There was nowhere she could go, you know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I thought, you hide my own tombes on somewhere, you know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: And I started looking around, started walking around, looking mind.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: She was gone, gone, I mean gone. As far as
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I could see. There was no way through that temperature
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: she could have got away from me without seeing it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying that thing, what the heck just happened here,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you know. And by the time I'm doing that, I'm
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: standing there look at us, kind of glance up, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: honest to us, one of the biggest bats I've ever
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: seen in my life flew off through the trees and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: was gone back over that way. And I'm going I'm
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: shaking my head down. There just one of those answers
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: where I said, and nobody's ever going to believe this, Okay,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I got my eye finding. I order myself to believe
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: that this has happened. Okay. And here's the thing about it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I remember her name. And I went back the next day.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: This to bothered. Man. I had dreams that night. I
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: had dreams aware that night, and I had and in
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the dream she kept saying one thing over and over,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and we will meet again, we will meet it and uh.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: And the next day I went back to the cemetery
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: and I said, I'm opening I meet her again, you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see her again. And I found a
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: tombstone that was very similar to the name that she
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: gave me, and it was like one hundred and seventy
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: five years ago. And I'm going out right, but I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: have a funny feeling tom that definitely I will meet
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: here again one day, and I think she'll see it
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: look the same when I do.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Oh man, dude, that is a terrifyingly You're You're so
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: nonchalant and candid about it. That's what was driving me crazy.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: You're just like, yeah, this happened, and then you know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and I felt this and I was like, this is crazy,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: but it's like it's it's it's fascinating. It is absolutely fascinating.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: You said, do people actually contact you still to to
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: like to you know that you can help them if
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: they're having some type of demonic attachment or something like
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: that that happen still with you?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, all the time. I get, you know, probably
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: two or three times a week. I do a lot
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: of phone consultations mostly uh with people all the world.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I've had cases in India, Uh, Norway. I've had cases
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: in Mexico, I've had the Alaska. All the world. People
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: come to me with these demonological problems. A lot of
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you would not believe how many so called ghost hunters.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I don't like that term ghost. I always call myself
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: a spiritual researcher. But uh, you would not believe. In
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: any cases, I get people playing around with Wuizi boards
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: or they get attachments from doing ghost HUDs, and they
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: here's the one thing I remember. If you ever find
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: yourself in a situation where you're about to deal with
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a paranormal encounter of some sort, or whether you're actually
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: going to go on a ghost hunter or whatever. Make
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: sure that you prepare yourself safely, in fit, physically and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: spiritually for what you were about to do going into
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: it and coming out of it. If you don't do that,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: you foolishly leave that door open. You're asking for trouble.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: You do not believe. In many cases I've had over
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: these I had. Let me tell you a quick case.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I had a girl call me one time and said, uh,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I saw you on a podcast and said that you
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: were talking about wigeboards and said, I got a story
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: about a wisi board today. She said, I remember what
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you said on the you know the podcast. You don't
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: break them. You don't throw them away, you don't burn them.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: You bury them. That's the best way to hear it
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of them. And she said I had one in my house.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I buried my wisi board just like you told me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: You know. I said, well that's good. She said, well
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: what do you do, doctor, girlf it comes back? I said,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: what do you mean, what do you mean to come back?
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And she said, well, I come home the other day
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and it was like it was, you know, I buried
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it about a week ago, and I come home the
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: other day and it's laying on my porch, she said,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: but I think my friends and I told my friends
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: about doing that. I think they were doing that, playing
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: a trick on me. I said, well, here's what you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: need to do. You need to reverd that thing and
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: then you need to find some new friends. Okay, wear that.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: If it comes back, call me, call me back. Okay,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: but it shows you never called back, so every day
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and they didn't come back again. But that was an
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: interesting story.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's been an hour, man, it felt
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: like literally ten minutes. And I would definitely have you
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: back on to talk about the wand bat Cat, which
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: is uh demon pirate ghost. You are such an encyclopedia
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: of knowledge and information man, you need to be. I
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: want to promote you the best way I most possibly can.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And it has been an absolute pleasure, a pleasure on
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: this side that you can't want to talk with me today.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: So where once again, where can people find your podcast?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: The name of your podcast and if they if they
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: need any type of spiritual guidance or help, you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: whatever it may be, where they can reach you, my friend.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I have three podcasts that I do three
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: times a week Monday nights at nine o'clock em Eastern
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Standard Time. I do the road Let's Travel with my
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: different der Old Fountain. We do the offbeat stuff of
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the paranormal nobody else's talking about. And on Wednesday nights
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I have Hunt English Shadows at nine o'clock e on
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Eastern Standard townel. All my shows are nine o'clock on
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Eastern Standard Time, and then I do Friday Nights a
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: paranormal point of view. We talk about books, movies and
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: all that with a paranormal slant to that as well.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: All of these shows can be found on Hunt English
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Shadows YouTube podcast channel. Just look up Hunting the Shadows
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: YouTube podcast channel. You'll find it on there. And of
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: course if you need to contact me, you can reach
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: me at DENNISW. Carol dot com. I put the W
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: in there because there's another dinnist Carol. Well, he's a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: soccer player and I don't play ball. Okay, anyway, I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: think that's at Anyway, if you need to contact me
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: any consultation, got a question, want to tell me a story,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: whatever the situation is, you can contact me at Dennis W.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Carol dot com. And also my books. I have several
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: books that I've written. The latest one is called The
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Road Unseen, a Paranormal Journey into Highest Rangess. All of
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: my books are available on Barnes and Noble and Amazon.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Just look up the author Dennis WR. Cairl and you
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: will find them there. Also, if you need to contact me,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you can also contact me at Dennis W. Carol at
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: gmail dot com if you want to go that route.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: But all of my links are on the website, so
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: if you need to contact me that way, if you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: need some consultation, whatever the situation is, on them.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Plastic man. Once again, thank you so very much for
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: coming on talking with me, talking with us today. We're
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: talking with me, somebody. You're talking with somebody. We'll go down.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you for talking with me today.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: You know, let's put I'm joining it, but look forward
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: next time we get together.
• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:21
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