Latest / The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine / Leanor Ortega Till: Five Iron Frenzy | Furnace Fest 2024 Series
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- 0:14They're at the festus at the corner your brand new gospel. Then I have
- 0:19any corner you want a blockage, you'll tell your sauce gotta say your sovereignty
- 0:25from saying the Kitten Club something right, check say this. Today we got
- 0:30Leonor from five Iron Frenzy, the second time you've been on this podcast.
- 0:35At this point, you're just a good friend. Uh you know we were
- 0:38on the podcast last year. Uh maybe you're somewhere around this time last year.
- 0:42And then you were like, hey, guys, I'm gonna be at
- 0:44Furnace Fest and you're just gonna like and I still remember. I don't think
- 0:48it was in the recording. I think it was after we got done recording
- 0:50you you said, Colin and Mason, you're gonna be at Furnace Fest.
- 0:54I'm gonna be at furnace Fest. You guys owe me an ice cream date.
- 0:58And so you texted me while we were at furness Fest. We went
- 1:02out and got some ice cream at the festival and it was a grand old
- 1:04time. We met some of your friends, you met some of our friends.
- 1:08It was so much fun. We may have had a little alcohol at
- 1:11some point, and it was a delightful time, and so you know,
- 1:15we just became really good friends at that point. And here you are now
- 1:19not just being a guest at Furnace Fest, but this year you're going to
- 1:22be playing at Furness Fest. So obviously we're going to get into all those
- 1:25kind of details and everything. Yeah, but before we get into all of
- 1:29that, how are you doing today? I'm awesome, I'm doing really good.
- 1:32I'm working on all the details. This weekend, on Saturday, we
- 1:34are playing a Denver SKA festival with headliners Goldfinger, then Less Than Jake,
- 1:41than Us heh yeah goodness, and then also other bands are going to be
- 1:46there too. It's an all day festival. It's going to be really fun.
- 1:48Planet Smashers from Canada are going to be there, so it's a lot
- 1:51of sky, it's a lot of quick turnaround, like not playing a long
- 1:55set, but it's going to be very, very fun. And we're working
- 1:57on old school songs, so much skinking, I know, or they you
- 2:04know, scake mashing, I guess. And then people our age head bobbing,
- 2:07you know. Okay, right, yeah, yeah, but but it's
- 2:10your job to make sure they're not just head bobbing. I'm ready. I
- 2:15am so ready. I I guys, I bought a new shaper today.
- 2:21What does that mean? What is a You're not a woman, are you?
- 2:24So it just holds everything titally in you've heard of these things. Well,
- 2:28you don't need that. I don't need it. But on stage it's
- 2:30good because if you put your hands in the ear, you don't want your
- 2:32T shirt it is Oh, I get I get it. That's part of
- 2:36it. That's part of the you want to be like all you're all about
- 2:38You're all about modesty. You just like ruin like the fantasy of like every
- 2:43forty year old Scott fan right there, because that was like, that's the
- 2:46opposite of what they want to see when you lift your arms up. No,
- 2:51it's all modesty and it's all about you know, in my age,
- 2:53it's also about like, you know, you want to look slim and good
- 2:58and happy, and you are. But it just adds that extra layer of
- 3:01confidence. I guess okay, it's the it's the female confidence. Sure,
- 3:06what do you guys have? What's the equivalent of that? Colin used to
- 3:10wear those uh what are called wife beaters? What's kind of wearing that?
- 3:15He's wearing a Nike y on coaching all day and I literally just got back
- 3:23and so I am, I am. It's one hundred degrees here today and
- 3:27I'm toasty and I'm still warm. You look warm. And I think that
- 3:31the new mason, the new terminology is a spouse provoker. Please, I
- 3:37think it's just called a tank top person. You can cancel me, that's
- 3:44fine. I would never you. You could cancel me. Well, I
- 3:50wish I was in Denver this week, and that'd be so much fun.
- 3:53It's going to be very, very fun and very brad. And I just
- 3:58think it's crazy that, honestly, like, think about this, playing with
- 4:00Goldfinger, playing with less than Jake us, we have more band members now,
- 4:04we are heading closer to fifties with both those other bands and us,
- 4:09Like, it's insane the age now of people that are playing scam music.
- 4:15So so you know how how like a lot of like tradesmen and stuff like
- 4:18that will say we've got more than one hundred and fifty years of experience on
- 4:23our staff. What is the years of experience on five iron friends? I
- 4:27bet you I could ask a fan on Saturday and they'll figure it out.
- 4:31He'll know it in binary because they will have been homeschooled and happy nerds.
- 4:41Wait, I'm happy to keep doing this, like it's super fun. It's
- 4:44still exciting. We have a lot more shows coming up, which I'll tell
- 4:46you about later. But yeah, it just feels good to still have I
- 4:49guess the word is chops. You know, you still have your child.
- 4:53Yeah. So last year we around this time, we interviewed Bruce from Living
- 5:00Sacrifice, and I bet Bruce is at this point in his mid fifties.
- 5:03I'm guessing. I mean they've been around the block since the mid to late
- 5:06eighties, right, so they've been around for a while. And I was
- 5:11thinking to myself, there's a good chance, not to say that it like,
- 5:14I don't know Bruce Wall enough, but there's a good chance he could
- 5:15be potentially a grandfather at this point. And like, you guys are not
- 5:19that Like, given another like ten to fifteen years, you might be starting
- 5:25to at least even if you're not grandparents, you could at least be in
- 5:28that age range where you could have grandchildren. Like, it's not that far
- 5:31off. Well, the first phase though, of all this is empty nesters.
- 5:34So our trombone player Dennis and his wife sent a son to college,
- 5:39and in fact, we're about to play in Nashville where his son goes to
- 5:42Baylor University and he's studying music production. And so yeah, we have a
- 5:46there's a football week we literally Baylor Bayer. Very cool. What are the
- 5:53chances that's where my brother goes to school? Oh, good school. Maybe
- 5:57they can become friends. Maybe he's amazing on the guitar. And so also,
- 6:00my son just graduated this year. I have an eighteen year old's how
- 6:03crazy good grief? Isn't it weird to think that, Like you've been a
- 6:08band and you continue to do this and you've you've birthday child and now sent
- 6:14that child off to college. That is that is how long you've been a
- 6:16band. I know it's true, and it's really fun. It's really cool.
- 6:20Like now it's easy because I said to the festival, I said,
- 6:24can our kids be backstage? And I was like, they're teenagers and they've
- 6:27grown up in this world and they need all access, you know, like
- 6:30they're not babies. And it's like yeah, so it's pretty much like a
- 6:33bunch of teenagers eating our food that's supposed to be on our rider for us.
- 6:40So we have to add. It's like coke. We would never get
- 6:42Coca cola. It's like fine, add you know how much hummus do we
- 6:46need? How many chips? Why do I have to feed all these kids
- 6:48backstage? That's how you know, That's how you know you're a Colorado based
- 6:53band when hummus is the main organic apples, local beer, which what could
- 7:00it be here? Alabama? You guys, let me tell you something.
- 7:05Do you ever enjoy the non alcoholic beers just for fun? They go duels?
- 7:12Yeah, but now they have so I we're taking a little break here
- 7:15and there badly, but it happens here and there, just a reset.
- 7:18Non alcoholic corona is delish. Really, you you have to be high maintenance
- 7:26like me. You cannot just drink it out of the thing. You have
- 7:28to line it with salt and a little tahen and then a fresh line.
- 7:31But the beer itself with all that. Yeah, you know, nas are
- 7:36really taking off right now. Like almost every single brewery has a has at
- 7:41least one NA on on tap that's their own, you know. And you're
- 7:45even seeing really good any like liquors to like mix you know, but I've
- 7:49tried two wines and they were undrinkable. The two wines I've tried were like
- 7:55fermented grape juice. It was, well, that would be wine, that
- 7:59would be wine. So it's just it's literally just grape juice. Yeah,
- 8:03it's you're going to a Methodist church. They probably get it from uh,
- 8:09they probably get it from a Catholic priest somewhere. I know, because that
- 8:11wine is terrible, but it's a waste of your money. Don't unless I've
- 8:13I had about fifty people suggest on my Facebook. I asked, you know,
- 8:18what are the non alcoholic wines I should try? And so many people
- 8:20said them, and I got two of the higher end. I shouldn't waste
- 8:24my money that way. Like, if you're getting wine, real wine,
- 8:26fifteen bucks is my It's not like twelve to fifteen bucks. And we're not
- 8:31talking twisted off. I don't do that crap. But I think that spending
- 8:35more than that is just a waste. And if it's not alcohol, I'm
- 8:39really sad. Now, Yeah, yeah, that's true. Mason's concerned about
- 8:43me. Mason concerned about only drink wine. So my I do love box
- 8:48wine, but my like my sort of any version. If I want to
- 8:52like you know, have like a nice drink at night, but not do
- 8:56an alcohol version is so in in Minnesota, edibles now are like THC edibles
- 9:01are are are available. But I found these little tablets, these dissolvable tablets
- 9:09that you can put in any you know, like a selter water whatever you
- 9:13want to do. Uh, and they're they're tasteless and they're odorless, so
- 9:16you can just you know, throw them in and they're like really really like
- 9:20those are called rufies and you are not supposed to be these are these are
- 9:24these are legal ones. These are ones you can just buy at the store
- 9:28down the block and uh. Anyway, you just like throw them in and
- 9:31then you just get this nice little like TG buzz and it's so nice and
- 9:33enjoyable. And that's like that's my go to right now for if I want
- 9:37to like do something an a but I still want to like have a little
- 9:39bit of the edge taken off. It's great. My concern is it someday
- 9:43though. So I don't partake in the THHC because I am a I work
- 9:46for the Department of Corrections, and I don't know should they ever test me,
- 9:50it could suck. So I just don't know, I get that,
- 9:54I get that good point. Yeah, And also it's kind of fun to
- 9:56like it sucks, but sometimes I have to have this like air of you
- 10:01don't want to lie to your kids, but you also want to uphold this
- 10:03standard. So it's like if I'm gonna be like, yeah, I play
- 10:07around with this stuff, it's like, then you too. Because as soon
- 10:09as I get all these tattoos, my kids are like when am I getting
- 10:11them? And I'm like, I talk about doing weed. Then they're like,
- 10:13when are we gonna get high together? Mom? I know, but
- 10:18you will get to a point where you're you're going to be like heye,
- 10:22child, when do we when can we get high together? Like my like,
- 10:26my dad has not asked me that specific question, but my dad is
- 10:28at that point now where it's like, let's let's break out the whiskey.
- 10:31And it's like I think back to when I was sixteen, and I couldn't
- 10:35imagine my dad and Colin knew my dad when I was sixteen, There's no
- 10:37way I could have ever imagine my dad being like the guy that's like,
- 10:41let's break out the whiskey. Yeah, And now he's that guy. I
- 10:43mean, I made it like we went to a football game with him,
- 10:46and he's snuck in alcohol to this football game. I know, And I'm
- 10:50like, who is this? I don't even know this human anymore? And
- 10:52this Christian conservative dad just took up took up smoking tobacco. Yeah, he's
- 10:58just he's smoking. Would be like Gandalf though in a pipe to be like
- 11:03Colin made him a pipe. I made him a pipe and he's smoking out
- 11:07of it. So give it. Give it like ten more years or even
- 11:11maybe less than that, and your kids are going to be like, you
- 11:13know, my mom's a cool mom. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
- 11:16You better no matter what I do. I'm fairly convinced that I don't
- 11:22know what they think is cool my mom. My mom is a lifelong hr
- 11:26person. My mom has never been in a Scabian like. There's no way
- 11:30if I even think my mom is cool, there's absolutely no way your one
- 11:33of your children won't think you're cool, at least in like ten years old.
- 11:37Well it depends because like so Brad's kids, Brad is our trumpet player.
- 11:39His kids actually like where are merch? They make cute clamation videos for
- 11:45us, like they think it's cool. Our kids tolerated. My kids tolerated,
- 11:48but they don't brag about it. I would. I don't know if
- 11:54I would. It's hard to know. Like with your with your parents,
- 11:56if do you think it's cool? Because it's when you think when I think
- 11:58of my dad. When I think of my dad, he's just silly and
- 12:03dorky and weird, and I can't imagine him being cool. I don't know,
- 12:07you know what I mean? Cool? Wow? You're that guys picture
- 12:13cheech? Have you heard cheech? Oh? Yeah, that's how my dad
- 12:16talks. Are you serious? Yeah? He's Mexican American and he I have
- 12:20a video of him. He had big mustache and glasses. The first date
- 12:24I went on, I was fifteen and my mom was at a church retreat,
- 12:28and so my dad had the neighbors come over to help send me off.
- 12:31When the parents came with their other their fifteen year old son to take
- 12:35me on a date. And as the car's driving away, you don't see
- 12:37my dad, but you hear on the video recording, I need a beer.
- 12:45That's my dad, dude. First time you met my husband, well,
- 12:48who would become my husband? He handed him at to Molly in a
- 12:50shop. That's awesome. Yeah, how old were you and your husband?
- 12:54You guys met when we met? Well scandalous. He was nineteen and I
- 12:58was twenty four when we met, but when we got married, I was
- 13:01twenty seven and he was twenty three. W I was like my parents basically,
- 13:07my mom is older than my dad. Yeah, he asked me out
- 13:09when he was twenty and I said, yes, when he turned twenty one,
- 13:11have you told your kids this? So I remember when I was like
- 13:15maybe eight or nine, and I like learned something about that women on like
- 13:18the life expectancy of us women was like five years older than men. And
- 13:22so I asked my dad about that some No, no, actually, let
- 13:26me back up. I noticed, like at least growing up in church that
- 13:31like most of the married couples, I knew the man was older than the
- 13:35woman. Oh yeah, sure, like usually within a few years, but
- 13:37like usually was like older than the woman, right, And so I asked
- 13:41my dad that of like why why are typically men older than women when they're
- 13:45married, but you guys are like mom is older by six years? Yeah,
- 13:48And so I asked that question that was you know, eight or nine,
- 13:50and my dad like explains, you know, it's just like we you
- 13:52know, we fell in love, blah blah blah blah. But then he
- 13:54was like, but here's the here's the plus side of it, Mason.
- 13:58So I don't know if you've seen meson, but women typically live five years
- 14:05longer than men, and so that means that because your mom is five to
- 14:09six years older than me, that means that when I die, your mom
- 14:13is probably going to die right then too. And so not only did I
- 14:16have to like contemplate the fact at eight years old that my parents were going
- 14:20to die, but that they were going to die at the same time basically
- 14:22on average. That is why tell him? Why tell them? So now
- 14:28you can tell Now you can tell your kids that, like, hey,
- 14:31by the way, dad and mom are going to die at the same time.
- 14:33Well, the awkward thing about me was I was friends with him for
- 14:37a long time. So I was dating another guy, and then I was
- 14:39single for a year, and then I started dating Steven, and so in
- 14:43that time I was friends with him and I even got to know his dad,
- 14:45and his dad would use me as an example. His dad would say,
- 14:48see your friend, she's in college and a band because my husband was
- 14:54always touring and trying out bands and never really wanted like he only did one
- 14:58semester maybe yeah, he didn't finish the first year of school. And his
- 15:03dad would always like shake his head and be like, wow, help him.
- 15:05And I'm like you were seen as like the really mature one, well
- 15:09physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. I just damn dude, I just
- 15:13and still and still are are the more mature one. Have to know what
- 15:18maturity is. I don't know. I'm good with money. I'm really good
- 15:22with money. Well that's good. Yeah. Mmm, I'm a planner,
- 15:26I'm a thinker, I'm a researcher. I don't know what mature is because
- 15:30I don't have the ability. I don't know if I don't feel like you
- 15:31guys are the same. I don't have the ability to get embarrassed. You
- 15:35know that about me? I don't really have. I mean I really don't,
- 15:39like, I don't have this shame or this weird feeling of like what
- 15:43would I say? It could be awkward? And the new joke these days
- 15:46is it's really cute. Like all the movies these days about romance are Oh,
- 15:50I'm so awkward, I'm so awkward. I don't know what that feels
- 15:52like, and so I think in order to I think we equate maturity with
- 15:58confidence, and that necessarily true. So no more shaper for you, then,
- 16:03that is what you're saying. Yeah, you have nothing to be embarrassed
- 16:06about. Raise your saxophone enough, back off, you don't need it.
- 16:14I've been known to flash leaders. I've clashed an entire youth group leader convention.
- 16:19Wait what because I didn't know so I was wearing actually a start and
- 16:26I didn't know the stage would be so high. I know, I know
- 16:30it can happen. It happens, I suppose every once in a while,
- 16:33hopefully hopefully not hopefully not too often. Well that's when you learn these kind
- 16:37of things. Yeah, that's a good point, But not because you're embarrassed.
- 16:41It's just because like somebody is like, hey, by the way,
- 16:44like let's not do that again. Yeah, which someone was like the color
- 16:47was white, and I'm like great, oh oh man, subject change.
- 16:52Yeah, you were just trying to put the saxon in saxophone. No,
- 16:57I'm not speaking of saxophone. Yeah me ask you this. Looking at the
- 17:04Furnace Fest lineup, are we really the only ska band. I think we're
- 17:08definitely the only ska band, right, Yeah, what about the only band
- 17:11with horns? There's another band that I think has horns, right, or
- 17:15a couple of them. I have to look at the lineup again. I
- 17:18mean, certainly there are bands that may have like a song or two that
- 17:22have a horn in it. But a band that would have a touring person
- 17:27that plays horns, I don't. I don't think so. If it was
- 17:30last year, you would not have been the only one. You might be
- 17:33the horniest band last year. We might be this year. Last year was
- 17:37fun because I got to be on stage for Insiders and they are my friends.
- 17:41Yeah. And then what is that other band? Okay, don't don't
- 17:45say the name. It's the band that does second Seasons. I love the
- 17:48Goady hook. Yeah yeah, the Dead Player was it? Or was it
- 17:52Value? Yeah? Yeah? And I got to say I had all those
- 17:55guys and it was funny because I did that thing I do that once a
- 17:57while where you stare at them and you go, oh it is you,
- 18:00Like you have to like look past the age and the wrinkles and then events
- 18:04past years. Yeah, like it's I don't mean to right, away,
- 18:08but I have to look at certain people and be like, oh, yeah,
- 18:11how have you been? And suddenly in the from the Ether Steely danced.
- 18:21But the guy in Gody Hook, he's very tall, and I think
- 18:23he's blonde. Okay, you know that guy? What does he play?
- 18:30I remember I don't either, but I looked at him for a minute.
- 18:33I was like, oh my gosh, you probably have like five kids,
- 18:34and I think I was right, wow, five lot like that one of
- 18:40those guys. Leone a question that I've wondered, partly because like every now
- 18:45and then I'll like bring up like, hey, like I know leonor from
- 18:49from five Iron, and you know, for some reason that impresses people,
- 18:52I guess, and and so anyway, whenever that comes up. One of
- 18:57the like thoughts that I have around like you being in a band for all
- 19:02these years now is especially because you've been in a band as like the only
- 19:07woman in the band, right uh. And I'm really curious, Like when
- 19:11I first met you, I realize like immediately like oh, this is like
- 19:15I don't know if you're like in the Niagram world, but like you clearly
- 19:18to me, like are like Enniagram eight kind of energy, kind of person
- 19:22like very strong, like strong personality, like yeah, don't take shit for
- 19:26anything, kind of like you know, you don't take shit from anyone kind
- 19:29of thing. And so like one of the things that like has become clear
- 19:33to me is like you could easily go like be in a band of like
- 19:37a bunch of like men and clearly like still like kind of have your way
- 19:41in it. And also I'm like curious about like how you have felt like
- 19:47the rest of five Iron over all these years has sort of been in this
- 19:51like I would imagine there's been moments where it sort of feels like we sort
- 19:53of need to like protect her from like all the nonsense of like masculinity and
- 19:57bullshit that men bring in to that scene. But no, but also knowing
- 20:02like they've had to have to they have to probably balance that knowing that like
- 20:04you are going to be, like you're gonna be like the dog right at
- 20:07the beginning of the fight, ready to like you know, beat Someboddy up.
- 20:11So I'm like curious about just like how you've navigated that dynamic knowing your
- 20:15own personality and also knowing like that there might be some level of like impulse
- 20:22from from the guys in five Iron to maybe want to try to protect or
- 20:25like make sure that you're okay or whatever. Right, So I'm curious,
- 20:27like what that dynamic has been, you know, over the course of these
- 20:30five Iron years. Well, in the beginning it there weren't as many conversations
- 20:36about I mean, I was a tomboy. I was a little tomboy,
- 20:38and I wasn't very girly. I guess I had like you know, I
- 20:42never wore makeup, and I had extra large T shirts everybody did, like
- 20:45Vision street wear shirts. And I had a couple of nose rings, and
- 20:48I looked pretty punk rock and kind of intense anyway, so I think they
- 20:52saw me as one of the guys. But there definitely was this big brother
- 20:57kind of vibe and Andy our drummer, he's and I don't always go for
- 21:00stereotypes, but I will say he would throw down if anyone looks at me
- 21:06wrong, like I've had. I've had people at merch tables be mean to
- 21:10me and he he goes, he looks at me, and he goes get
- 21:12on the bus and he tells me to go on the bus, and then
- 21:15he screams in the person's face like like or if another band member in a
- 21:19band is like giving me too much attention like that, he'll be like right
- 21:25there and I won't even notice. I'll be like kind of flirting too,
- 21:26and I be like, Andy's there, like you should leave now. Like
- 21:30he's very protective of me, like a big brother, which is rad.
- 21:34Definitely, I can hold my own. But I've learned in the band Aneagraham
- 21:38speaking, they don't want me to be an eight. They want me to
- 21:42be a seven. It took years and my husband helped me figure that out.
- 21:47He's like, you always take on things. You're always booking or you're
- 21:49booking the openers, or you're doing this, or you're doing that, and
- 21:52you keep getting told by the band not to do it, don't do too
- 21:56much, don't overthink it. And because it's almost motherly, right, like
- 22:02an eight woman in a group becomes the mother, the mother hen And I'm
- 22:07really struggling right now to not text them and be like, okay, guys,
- 22:08for Saturday, it's going to be really warm, so wear's something like
- 22:11shorts and t shirts with them, pack something cool for the stage. I
- 22:15want to tell them that because I think it's true we should look cool on
- 22:18stage and I don't think they're going to be wanting to wear they're sweaty,
- 22:22hot jeans the whole time. But then there's that don't be an eight,
- 22:25be a seven. Just be cool, be fun, be happy, you
- 22:27know, just just go with the fan girl. Just be like the one
- 22:30that the fans talk to and don't try to plan everything. And it's been
- 22:34hard for me to find that role because I'm really freaking good at the other
- 22:38role. I would love for them to boss me around. So lately this
- 22:42whole year, I get to pick the openers. They're letting me do.
- 22:47They're letting me do it. I get to do my gift right now,
- 22:48I'm making a videos, I'm in charge of the posters, I'm doing all
- 22:52this stuff and I'm burning out. But I'm also really happy that they're trusting
- 22:56me to do it. That's fun. That's is that has that been a
- 23:02fun creative outlet for you too? It is the only hard part I think
- 23:06is also taking on like who's going to book the flights, who's going to
- 23:08book the hotel. See, we don't have a manager because we have eight
- 23:11band members. H you can't really afford to pay another person. Plus every
- 23:17time we hire someone, we're like, no offense, but we know how
- 23:19to do it more than you do. Reusally twice as old as you,
- 23:22and so yeah, we're really we become like kind of control freaks and not
- 23:27good at being managed. We had one manager, which was Mike omquest.
- 23:33Do you guys know him? Yeah? We know Mike. Yeah, And
- 23:36we felt bad letting him go because we're like, we're failing you as a
- 23:38person. We will not be managed, and so we had to fire him
- 23:41out of our love for him. Serious, we loved him. See was
- 23:47that before he was that with me without you? Or is that the same
- 23:49time? Same time? Like the reason? So when Engines came out,
- 23:52we hired him. He helped us with all that artwork, gotcha, he
- 23:56helped us with that big release, and we knew, we knew as a
- 24:00fan he'd get us. But then after a while we're like, you can't.
- 24:03You can't handle us, and we can't handle being handled. Did you
- 24:07hear about the mission he's going on? No, is not not like a
- 24:11mission trip. He's like he's working with NASA and he's going to the sun.
- 24:15No, you can't, he well, obviously you can't, Like that's
- 24:18the idea like they're they're sending people to this like to see how close we
- 24:23can get to the sun. The problem is, I know I'm global.
- 24:30I think you're b asking me to the max. You can either listen back
- 24:34to the episode and what you made me do so I will not what look
- 24:42at my dogs back there? I was about to say, is this is
- 24:47this what a five iron frenzy rehearsal looks like? You know what? It
- 24:52sounds like. It sounds bad because we use in ears, so all you
- 24:56would hear is like the horns, and you would hear just like clinking,
- 25:02and you'd hear the drums, but you wouldn't wear any guitars are based.
- 25:07That's fun. Uh Well, speaking of that, actually, when when you
- 25:11have so many uh, when you have so many instruments up on stage,
- 25:15do any of your monitors do they get kind of k sounding? Well,
- 25:18well, they're amazing. There's a thing and you'll love the name master Fader.
- 25:22You have to download master Fader. Nice and you definitely a Colorado based
- 25:26Company's gonna that's gonna flag my accountability partner on coven and Ice. Well,
- 25:33good luck with that. You have to download it and it allows you to
- 25:37turn up and down each individual mic, so I can decide how much kick,
- 25:41how much there, how much Sometimes we ask for room mic. So
- 25:44it's like kind of a little echoey. Yeah, so I can put the
- 25:47horns excuse you, ye, quiet, thank you? You see them there?
- 25:55I don't know anyway, so you can put as much of everything.
- 25:57So it's funny because like Scott kerr our bass player will be like, and
- 26:02he has to say it. What does he say? He goes, no,
- 26:03offense, I don't have any horns in my mix. Why do you
- 26:06say it? Why do you have to tell me? You don't have to
- 26:07There's no reason. Ever, I've never needed to know that. Well.
- 26:12Well, so that's something that's interesting to me. Like you know, in
- 26:17a typical band, usually the bassist wants to have, you know, good
- 26:21connection with the drummers so that they can get he does. That makes sense,
- 26:26But when it comes to horns, what do you listen for? Are
- 26:30you listening for that same groove? Or I need the base from there?
- 26:33I just gave all the drums. What do you pull Reese all the way
- 26:37down? No? And here's why. When he gets off and he doesn't
- 26:42have a great sense of rhythm, and he gets off a lot. So
- 26:45we all need to we all need to what we're going to do fast under
- 26:51the bush, and we have we have click in our ear so shooting songs
- 26:56and you've heard our songs like they're fast face and he needs to stay on
- 27:00it fast. And sometimes he gets off, or sometimes he's being funny,
- 27:03or sometimes he runs out of breath, takes a drink of water. There
- 27:07did I make up for it? So when he does these things, we
- 27:11have to be flexible. Yeah, yeah, So what happens? What happens
- 27:15if you get off the click doesn't click? Colin. We're professional musicians,
- 27:22I understand, but there's all get off for one beat, but then there's
- 27:26another beat. You better get back on, right, you figure it out.
- 27:29We don't just get off. It's like driving if you okay, it's
- 27:33like the sound when you hit on the road and it goes then you yeah,
- 27:37direct to get right back. It's not like, oh, I'm just
- 27:40off roading. Is there to remind you to get back? That's road for
- 27:45a second though, right, No, I've hung around blues bands too much,
- 27:51you know, I mean, they're they're never around a click, and
- 27:53so it's just well, and what's weird is like I my hyperness and my
- 27:57intensity. I'm always like a little front of in front of the click right,
- 28:03and we know this is a band being a band for a thousand years,
- 28:04and Brad's chill. Yeah, he's behind it a little bit. He's
- 28:07behind the beat. And so my favorite part, if you ever listen to
- 28:11Evil Plan to Save the World, my solo is stupid. I can't solo.
- 28:15I can't solo, so it's crap. But when you hear Brad sola,
- 28:18that's awesome because he's just behind the beat. But it sounds really cool,
- 28:22like it sounds very intentional. It's just awesome. Yeah, yeah,
- 28:26yeah, he just want his best, right you are? Yeah? Of
- 28:30course? Yeah? Ice cream? Yeah, ice cream for sure, But
- 28:34I also want to hang out. That's yeah, for sure. We're gonna
- 28:37be Are you going to be there for all three days? Yeah? I'm
- 28:41totally yeah. And guess what the first day is my birthday? Oh okay,
- 28:47well we definitely owe you ice cream. Now it's my forty eighth birthday.
- 28:52Forty eight. El what it's happening, guys? That's wow, that's
- 28:59fun. Yeah, what a what a perfect place to celebrate that too.
- 29:03Yeah, I hope you guys don't buy me a cake, because they did
- 29:04one time and gave it to me on stage, and of course some dude
- 29:07in the front just smashed it in his face. That was so rude.
- 29:12Are you so? Are you playing the first day? You know? I
- 29:17don't remember it's on. The days have been announced. The schedule hasn't,
- 29:22but the days have been announced. I'd have to look. So if you
- 29:25are, you know that Happy Birthday is coming then right? Oh? Not
- 29:29while I'm on stage, I hope. So oh it should all right,
- 29:32culin if that's going to be the case. We're definitely starting. We're starting
- 29:37happy. I will I will go backstage and I will come on stage and
- 29:41not give a ship and I'll be like, no, we're singing Happy Birthday,
- 29:44right, you know what you want to do? Since it's my birthday,
- 29:47you should get stretched armstrong to sing me Happy Birthday during their set.
- 29:51Now that would be memorable. No, that would be fun. Okay,
- 29:56Now we're definitely you can't. You can't opened that Pandora's box. And I
- 30:00think that we're gonna go ask them though, I'll be like, who oh,
- 30:04yeah, uh I remember, Yeah, that's the weird chick that every
- 30:08Cornerstone and every Warped tour because we were on workt with them. She has
- 30:11to be on stage, yes I do. Are you going to bring a
- 30:19stretched armstrong action figure as well? No? But I have one of the
- 30:23T shirts. I cut it out because our last tour of five Arms,
- 30:26last tour ever, our last show ever before we got back together The Onion.
- 30:30You know the Onion, right, the magazine of course, So it
- 30:33said you could buy T shirts from the Onion and they said I'm in a
- 30:37promising local band. Yeah, And so we all wore them for our last
- 30:41show because we played, you know, to four thousand people, sold out
- 30:44Filmore show. But on the back I had sewed it with of course,
- 30:48you guys plan on Saturday, by the way, play on the Saturday.
- 30:52Okay, thank you Saturday. We plan on Saturday everyone. So what I
- 30:56did is I wore a stretch armstrong shirt because you know that quote. You
- 30:57probably know it better than me. You were more than just a tour day,
- 31:03you were more than just a fan. Remember that song? Yeah,
- 31:07yeah, yeah, So it was the quote of that. So that was
- 31:08on the back because I was like, oh, this is you know love
- 31:11it. That's such a cool Uh, such a cool little homage to them.
- 31:18Oh yeah, they don't know, like they know. I think they're
- 31:21cool, But I think they're cool. They're songs. They're beautiful songs.
- 31:25Yeah, they have a color than the other band you have toured with.
- 31:29There's so many bands I've toured with. I don't know who you want to
- 31:30talk trash about. You were talking trash about them before we started recording.
- 31:36But I had a great time with them, and I always have a great
- 31:40time. Of course it should, we should. We give the listeners a
- 31:44hint of as to who Leonora was trashing. You think five and Frenzy are
- 31:48good, very very good, but but the feelings aren't mutual. Oh yeah,
- 31:56they're great guys. Sweethe great, They're great guys. But are they
- 32:01great as a bank? They have a song that I love called After,
- 32:08They have a song that I love called Softer, And they have a song
- 32:13that I love called Be My Escape. Okay, how's that? Oh that
- 32:16just gives away great, Yeah you probably gave it away. But yeah,
- 32:20it doesn't matter. I do love those songs a lot. They're great songs.
- 32:23What about snapcase? They're gonna be playing they are gonna be playing.
- 32:28Is that so? While I was about to get into this, like like,
- 32:30Okay, you're gonna be there the whole weekend. What are some of
- 32:34the bands that you're wanting to see n I V Oh? Yes, okay,
- 32:39I have a memory with n I V I. That's my favorite Bible
- 32:44mine too, actually, mine, absolutely too. I'm the onliest by by
- 32:50the way, saying after this, after this podcast, like wal when it's
- 32:53at the end, you're gonna ask me my favorite five favorite Bible translations.
- 32:57Weren't you gonna ask me that? Yeah? Yeah, and I V number
- 33:00one for sure? Anyway, Wine blind Side? You're a blind Side fan?
- 33:08Okay? Yeah? The bands I know? Right, I don't know.
- 33:12I know Cohed and Cambria a little bit. Is H two oh playing?
- 33:17Yeah they are? They're playing on on song. Dude. They have
- 33:20some songs. They have one of the most romantic hardcore songs I've ever heard
- 33:23in my life. You want to know a fun fact? Sure, uh
- 33:29h two O is actually the band Aqua. I don't understand. Is that
- 33:35also a band? But they have the same name. You heard the song
- 33:37girl, Oh shut up? The same people. I swear to goin yeah,
- 33:42okay, yeah, yeah, check it. They just they just like
- 33:49reinvented their sound. Yeah, okay, look it's definitely okay. So so
- 33:55H T or H two O and IVY stretch on one side under oath,
- 34:00that'd be under oath. You gotta you gotta come do blindside with us then,
- 34:05okay, I don't know what do means. I'm not gonna be in
- 34:07a mosh pit. No health insurance, okay, just like up front,
- 34:13the D O D doesn't have that good at health shirt. Actually I kind
- 34:17of have good health insurance. I just don't want to get you're gonna you're
- 34:22gonna turn forty eight. You don't have to. That doesn't have to be
- 34:24excuse Leonora. There's health insurance that I want. It's not really health insurance
- 34:29because it's hippies, but it's like three hundred bucks a month. But that
- 34:30for that money they tell you like holistically, what's up with you? And
- 34:34what teas and herbs and you know all these but three hundred bucks a month,
- 34:38I almost feel it's worth of the DO O D in the In the
- 34:42I didn't realize the D O D was in the pockets with a bunch of
- 34:45like I think it's Mason. Oh yeah, it's right. You're with the
- 34:51Correuction. Is not that? Not the Department of Defense? And not only
- 34:53that, Mason, I don't get paid. I raise support, so I
- 34:59don't it's not a real job. But that everyone will tell you it is
- 35:05a real job, but it isn't you know what I mean? Sure,
- 35:07So it sounds like there's enough bands where we can go hang out with you
- 35:12and enjoy that band together. And also there's enough bands where but there aren't
- 35:15too many bands where you have to like every single moment moment of every single
- 35:20day at furnace fast, which means which means I see, which means we
- 35:24can get some ice cream and maybe have a little drink. Yeah. And
- 35:28what about so Reggie and the Full Effect. They were one of those bands
- 35:31that for a long time, we're always on the mixtapes, the actual cassettes
- 35:36I would get it would always have like one or two Reggie in the Full
- 35:37Effect songs. I don't know why it's a mixtape band man mixtapes. I
- 35:44wish that I have an old army trunk full of them. Do you do
- 35:49you have a do you have one that like? Did you name them all?
- 35:52To or did someone when they give them to you? And manic and
- 35:58sad or happy hardcore sad hardcore or if the girl won't like because they're all
- 36:04about her? You look, you give love a bad name by bon Jovi
- 36:10first Great, I won't tell you who give me that one? It's wonderful.
- 36:16I love it. Save them h is the next song? Back in
- 36:21the Saddle again. I think there was some rolling stones, though, of
- 36:27course there are. What song for the rolling Stones? What do you think
- 36:32it would have been? I don't remember, see, I don't like it.
- 36:35I probably skipped it. How dare you should be Mia Moore mixtapes?
- 36:43You don't want to hear something funny? You know how my name is Leonora
- 36:45and nobody has that name. Yeah, hardly nobody. So I thought that
- 36:51the Stevie Wonder song my Chia Moore was saying, I said, Leonorre was
- 37:00like five. I thought that song said my name, and you thought Stevie
- 37:04was talking to you. I just thought it was a common name enough to
- 37:07have a name in it, you know, a song with a name like
- 37:08a normal person. Mason. When I grew up, Mason was not a
- 37:13common name now like and then my parents must have been like the hipsters of
- 37:16parenthood, uh in the nineties, because then all of a sudden, like
- 37:20ten years later, everybody was naming their kid Mason. And so I remember
- 37:24when I was like in high school and like all these like sixth grade you
- 37:29know, I was like umping umping games, and I was a coach for
- 37:31basketball, you know, I was like I was working for the parks and
- 37:34rec and so all these kids that were like six and seven years old,
- 37:37they were all Mason. I'm like, well, in the world, like
- 37:38ten years later, like I was ahead of the curb. I'm my name
- 37:42is a hipster name. I'm like, just way ahead of the curb.
- 37:45Does it does a Mason? Is it really just the person who makes jars?
- 37:49Yeahs in jars? Yeah, I think that. I think the name
- 37:52comes from like a free Mason, like a or that or like a like
- 37:55a a person that makes something with like bricks, right, yeah, the
- 38:00Mason. Yeah, So like I think. So I remember, like when
- 38:04I would look up my name, it would be like, you know,
- 38:06the etymology of the definition or whatever, it was like hard worker, and
- 38:09I'm like, that's right out, hard worker. And here's the next question,
- 38:14Colin, tell me about your name? Where does that even? I
- 38:16know? So there's a movie called Twilight, and I've never seen it,
- 38:22but I love one of the songs on the sound it's it's Gaelic and it's
- 38:25uh Gaelic for cuddly. No really, I did not know this. Yeahl
- 38:37Colin and I used to cuddle, especially in high school. We cuddled a
- 38:40lot. We cuddled a lot a lot. I used to spoon all the
- 38:45time. Yeah, So Leonore, you want to hear a funny story.
- 38:49So Culin, Colin and I we you go. We'd go on like mut
- 38:52like mission trips or like uh like a youth group trip or whatever, and
- 38:57we would like always stay in the same bed, right Like that was like
- 38:59we best friends. That's what we would do. Or like when Colin went
- 39:02to college and I was still in high school, we would you know,
- 39:05like hang out and I go to his dorm or whatever. So we always
- 39:07ended up like for whatever reason, we always ended up in the same bed.
- 39:12And I hated sleeping with Colin because Colin just like he's big and he
- 39:15like spreads eagle. I mean, he just like takes up the entire bed.
- 39:19He's the worst person ever to sleep with. But so Culin, after
- 39:23my freshman year of college, got married. So I was like nineteen.
- 39:28He was like, what you were twenty one, twenty two or something,
- 39:30And so Colin got married. So on his first anniversary, I texted Culin
- 39:35and I was like, congratulations. By the way, your wife now has
- 39:38probably slept in the same bed more than I have with you, and so
- 39:44it probably took it probably took an entire year for him and his wife to
- 39:47sleep in the same bed before she overtook him in terms of people that slept
- 39:52in the same bed with Culin. Wow, Wow, it's true. It's
- 39:57true. Yeah, now, let's let's be honest, Bace. You definitely
- 40:00did go to sleep. Well, yeah, because you were cuddled. I
- 40:06mean I would. I would eventually go to sleep, but you were like,
- 40:07it would take me a hot second to like, all right, you're
- 40:10I mean like you're pushing me off the wall or pushing me off the bed
- 40:15into the wall or whatever. It was, the whole thing. But then
- 40:17I would eventually fall asleep. So we lived in a school bus and we
- 40:21paid like thirty five thousand for it, and so we empty. He didn't
- 40:24have it out. We wrote, we drew on what we wanted. So
- 40:28there were bunks, eight bunks, but basically what the bunks were was on
- 40:30the top a long sheet metal and then on the bottom a long sheet metal
- 40:35with individual mattresses and curtains going you know this way. So Mike is next
- 40:38to me because he's my cousin. That's good, and I'm against the wall,
- 40:43that's good. But underneath me is Reeese. It sucks because Reese would
- 40:47bring and I'm not kidding and I'm not exaggerating, a long board, a
- 40:52full sized cello, a full size mask of Darth Maul, and a full
- 40:57sized fan, and his own physical body all smashed in his bunk all the
- 41:02time, constant, NonStop things and moving and noise. And then there's the
- 41:09story of the time singer Move and Andy kept rolling and rolling and rolling onto
- 41:16Reese till finally reached just like started like hitting him hard. Heard a scream
- 41:22and it was Andy's wife, Mindy, who was on tour with us.
- 41:24Oh no, and decking her. You are You're throwing Reese under the bus
- 41:30so many times this is just tour. No, he's a wonderful guy.
- 41:32This isn't He's fun. He beats women, he's a wonderful guy. All
- 41:37right. First, one time Sonny had a crazy dream and thought he was
- 41:45in a zamboni or a pyramid or something, so he was crawling. Are
- 41:51unrelated? I know, I can't remember which He's had both those dreams,
- 41:55rolling around on top of us in our bumps, going through each asleep.
- 42:00That's terrifying, weird. What kind of drugs was Five Iron into? I
- 42:07think Anna freeze was leaking, or maybe it was like diesel. I don't
- 42:10know. You've down the road a lot and Andy would always pick up hitchhikers
- 42:15and I'd get out of my bunk and they'd be like crazy, crusty punks
- 42:20and they'd be looking at me like rolling joints, and I'm like, ah,
- 42:22I'm going back to my bed. This is not happening right now.
- 42:27You're being nice, Andy, but this is too nice. Oh man.
- 42:35I feel like these are things that nobody's ever known about Five Iron, and
- 42:38now all of a sudden, this is going to be sighted on Wikipedia.
- 42:40Like that's my hope. Mason's obsessed with getting incited. I just I just
- 42:45want to be on Wikipedia so bad. We have been sited on Wikipedia on
- 42:50Relying K the Band That Shall name, it not be named. But that's
- 42:53the only time we've ever been sighted on Wikipedia. I had my own page
- 42:58and then it disappeared you had. Most of it. Wasn't right anyway,
- 43:00though it was wrong a lot. It was wrong what I don't know how
- 43:05to do. I don't know how to do computers, so I just had
- 43:07to leave it. I read that that I read about you on Wikipedia one
- 43:12so you had punched a shark. See. I don't even know what it
- 43:15means. Did they say that I ate a spider? That's true. Well,
- 43:19we all eat spiders every year seven years. Oh oh, I could
- 43:25see it. Yeah. Was it like like one of those deadly ones?
- 43:30I don't know. I didn't think anyone could see me. I was in
- 43:31the corner at the band practice and one was like dangling. It was right
- 43:35here, and I don't know why, but I ate it and then everyone
- 43:37just stopped playing and I was like, see, you should have done the
- 43:42Ozzy Osbourne way of doing it and just do it as a while doing a
- 43:46record deal. Yeah, speaking of Ozzy Osbourne and what you're talking about.
- 43:52When I was in a band called Arsen The Arsen at eighteen years old,
- 43:54I did bite the heads off of peeps and throw them into the crash.
- 44:04I bet the bat tasted better. We had a toll of six shows Arson
- 44:08the Arson, We played a sobriety house, We played the VFW, we
- 44:15played a Battle of the bands. Oh I guess four shows, and then
- 44:17we also played our guitar players Dad's divorce party. This is the best.
- 44:23This is the best band history ever. This needs a Wikipedia page, now,
- 44:28oh it does? It does? It can also include how we had
- 44:32a cover of Knocking on Heaven's Door and we opened with that song for the
- 44:36divorce party, and we ended with that song. So you basically just made
- 44:42it one big medley. Yeah, pretty much. And then I had a
- 44:45song about Kurt Cobain and a song called Malkaban. It was a role playing
- 44:49vampire game. This is this is my new favorite band, like right now,
- 44:52like this. I never loved a band more than this right now.
- 44:57This is amazing. That is awesome. I love a band with a great
- 45:02lore, and this is a band with the best lore. So if I
- 45:06bring you peeps, will you bite the heads off and throw them into the
- 45:10crowd? Yeah? Sure, yes, okay, all right, Well that's
- 45:15better than pizzas at mxpx's it's better than it's better than pinatas and half with
- 45:21cream corn. During Cornerstone, Yeah, is filled with cream corn. We
- 45:28never know. We weren't like, we weren't rich enough to go to corner
- 45:31Stone. Oh it's a big Mexican thing like in Denver. You can buy
- 45:38I don't think that was in tune. It's a baby Taylor, so you
- 45:43can buy like child size pinatas in Denver. So we had a friend who
- 45:47was gonna come and drive and we're like, buy like five hundred dollars worth
- 45:52of these things because they're like one hundred dollars each, like they're huge.
- 45:54And we filled half with cream corn and baked beans and then half with candy,
- 45:59and the crowd before we didn't announce what witch or witch, and then
- 46:00we didn't tell the crowd that some of them didn't have candy. So we
- 46:02just start throwing them and people are just getting like cream corn and baked beans,
- 46:07just gone the lud and then something see me for mainstage. It was
- 46:14great. Okay, you guys are about to play a show in Denver.
- 46:16You have to do this because people are older now and they'll get very annoyed.
- 46:22Oh but you can do it at furnace Fest. People already know you.
- 46:25Guys are the only people that don't know people. People won't trust Pinanta
- 46:29from our show. Someone else should do it, some other band. It's
- 46:34been done. They won't trust it. Yeah, but they want it back,
- 46:37you know, if it's at furnace Fest. I mean, people are
- 46:40willing to read people people memories. I think it would work with any other
- 46:46band. But if if I've run throughout pinnandas, they would know immediately.
- 46:51So we're gonna throw out Pinnanas during under Oath, right, Yeah, I'll
- 46:57spim the Bob and Dora ripped Dora's face off, Scout Helper rights. Maybe
- 47:14maybe should do a Piana, Yeah because Saturday. Maybe that would be kind
- 47:20of fun. That would be fun. It would be fun. Be all
- 47:22into that. Yeah, that coun that could be fun. I'm all into
- 47:28it, all right. That's this is so my like my two my two
- 47:31goals, my two goals for Furniture, my two goals on this podcast,
- 47:36one of which is to get on Wikipedia. The other one is to influence
- 47:40a band to like manipulate their whether it's like a song they play or to
- 47:45do something on their set by our suggestion. And so just Mason, you
- 47:50already did that with the unmentioned band, right, but yeah, but that
- 47:53wasn't on the That wasn't on the podcast. That was something I tweeted at
- 47:58them. That's true. Well, hopefully NIV will get somebody hadas who knows
- 48:02somebody somebody? Do it? Please? All right, ask me the question.
- 48:07I know I'm ready alright, yes, top five guilty Pleasure Artists artists,
- 48:15Yes, all right, I don't I think the first one I came
- 48:17up with it, but I will say this one goes for all of five
- 48:20Iron. This is our band, guilty Pleasure Artist and we will pump it
- 48:23so loud and we will dance so the bus will be a shaken. I
- 48:29mean, we'll rock it. Huey Lewis in the news. Yeah, especially
- 48:37dun like oh Man, it just gets it rock. And we once covered
- 48:42and it took months to learn it. We did uh the Power of Love
- 48:46and we played a show and it bombed. Really yeah, We're like we
- 48:52were so into were rock and we had the background vocals like it was so
- 48:54rad and the whole crowd didn't care. Was it because was it because one
- 49:00of you re enacted the Patrick Bateman, Huey Lewis in the news scene.
- 49:05No, I don't know why. I just nobody was into it. That
- 49:07sucks. We tried, but anyway, So hue Lewis in the news,
- 49:09that's number one for sure. My dad, my dad would be rocking in
- 49:15the bus with you. That was my first cassette tape I ever bought with
- 49:19my own money, fifth grade. Happy to be Stuck with You And yeah,
- 49:22that's a good one. Can you think of four more? Yeah?
- 49:28But well I don't know, Like so they have to be crappy that you
- 49:32would be embarrassed of or that, or people would try to make you embarrassed
- 49:37of. I'm not going to be embarrassed. But let's see, I am
- 49:40a big let's see Brittany, Oh, I'm a big Okay? So that
- 49:45the ABBA soundtrack for the movie. Yeah, so rocking the movie version is
- 49:52what you're saying. The movie version is definitely I love it. I can
- 49:58listen son up all the time. Yeah, the movie version takes fun of
- 50:02me for that, especially because I honestly will have like a real tear when
- 50:07it's like the The Winner takes it all and Meryl Streep's like singing it's like
- 50:12talk and her voice kind of shakes. It's like so real. Oh man,
- 50:19that's that's a guilty pleasure for Collins. You both you both share that
- 50:22in common. Here's the next one people might make fun of me for,
- 50:27and it's it's a Pandora station gospel blue group, gospel bluegrass, gospel blue
- 50:36I'll say, you know, Alexa play gospel blue grass because it's spiritual and
- 50:40it gets me hyped, and it's my cleaning music. So what are some
- 50:44big gospel blue grass A single name? I just when I could think of
- 50:49it as like nickel creek guys, Alexa's talking in the other room and heard
- 50:52me. Alexa can Alexa hear us? Okay, but I will tell you
- 50:59one thing, you know that's I've been down. I've been down. This
- 51:00is how you remind me I've been down, I've been down. This is
- 51:02how you remind me of who I really am. That's up. Stop.
- 51:07Yeah. So we had a creepy sound guy and every night he would play
- 51:12and eat stare meani though, no o, the creepiest part about that is
- 51:22the nickelback. That's the creepiest part about that, dude. It was so
- 51:27uncomfortable every single night, just staring at me with that song playing through the
- 51:31mains, testing every night. Maybe he just thinks that constipation sounds good.
- 51:39I love Here's here's actually, what's less cringey or less like guilty pleasure about
- 51:45you listening to like blues gospel is that you said that you uh, that
- 51:51you listen to it on Pandora. Oh the Pandora's imprisoning. Yes, this
- 51:57is like, I love that you listen the bandora this, this makes me
- 52:00so happy. And also like that's the cringiest thing about it. All right,
- 52:06all right, let's see cringey music that I listened to that I wouldn't
- 52:10want anyone to know my favorite boy band and it's it's because I grew up
- 52:16differently than a lot of people listening to like, you know, New Kids
- 52:19on the Block or anything, but my favorite boy band that is kind of
- 52:21cringy, and I know every single word is new addition, Oh, that's
- 52:25that's definitely guilty place Ronnie Bobby Ricky and Mike Who And now my secret,
- 52:30My secret is one of the most few romantic songs ever. I love it.
- 52:35I love that band. That's good, all good? Yeah, cringey
- 52:40for sure. For sure. Fine, that's a good one. Yeah,
- 52:44especially when Brown went solo and I knew every single word, and I know
- 52:46how to do all those I know how to do like the Flavor flav,
- 52:50I know how to do the ed Lover. I know how to do all
- 52:51the g O, MTV raps, all the dances I know. I think
- 52:58you got one more, right, I like one more? It's so hard,
- 53:00I'm okay. This is who I'm gonna say. Freddy Fender and Flaco
- 53:05Jimenez. You guys probably don't know that Texas tornadoes all this Spanish music,
- 53:08but if you were a cool Tanjano, you would be rolling your eyes.
- 53:10Wasted days and wasted nights. Look up that song by Freddy Fender. What
- 53:15the the Hano is a Texan? Yeah? Yeah, so so Freddy Fender
- 53:24and Flaco Jimenez. They're like really famous Mexican music that you only listened to,
- 53:31like at three am, when everybody's drunk and sent home. We're done
- 53:37playing cards and everyone's really depressed and almost getting hungover, but you still want
- 53:43to sing out loud. Sure, so is the difference between a Tehano and
- 53:47a Chicano. Is the difference between where you immigrated to No, it's where
- 53:52you're born. The Hanas born in can be a Chicano, but not all
- 53:57Chicanos are the Hanas. Gotcha mean this is what my parents taught me.
- 54:01When they told me and I grew up, they go, you're a politicized
- 54:05Mexican American. You know your rights. You were born here, you were
- 54:12born here. You know you're right. Tell tell the government funk off.
- 54:22Yeah, be the government, become the government. You are your own government.
- 54:28You could become the president someday. I'm not very good at political things.
- 54:35You don't have to be at least I know. I mean, you're
- 54:38going with money that's gonna at least come. I know it goes m I
- 54:43team smart. Okay, let's move on. So I gave you my top
- 54:47five. Yes, that's a great top five. By the way, our
- 54:52shows I need to plug our shows. Yes, please do plug people five
- 54:57friends. You have some shows coming. We're going to be in the end
- 54:59of June, the twenty eighth, we're going to be in Nashville at the
- 55:02Loft. Then the twenty ninth we will be in Atlanta. No, that's
- 55:06not at the Loft, that's at the Basement East and then Atlanta is the
- 55:08Loft, and then August ninth we're going to be in Orange County and then
- 55:13the tenth will be at the House of Losing, San Diego, and then
- 55:15you guys should come for that San Diego. That'd be a little bit of
- 55:20a trek, but all right, fine, life. You got to live
- 55:22once and then super Nova Scafest and Hampden, Virginia coming up and then Furnistfest
- 55:28nice for my birthday. Yeah, yep, that's love. So yeah,
- 55:35dude, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun ye. So
- 55:37that's all that's right now. Yeah, we have we expect maybe anything else
- 55:40that you want, you know, maybe Wikipedia wants to pull, you know,
- 55:44from there's there's gonna be more. At least there's at least one more
- 55:47weekend this year. Okay, all right, that's good to know. Good
- 55:52to know in the fall, I think in November. In November, all
- 55:57right, sweet because and that we usually always take to sumber Off. I
- 56:01mean we have families, you know, and Andy works for the geek Squad
- 56:05with Best Buy and so he can't take off. Oh yeah, that makes
- 56:08sense. I bet you they're busy around that time. You know, I
- 56:10can't imagine that's the only scot person that works for geek Squad. Well,
- 56:15Brad used to too. But that's pretty funny. That's that's clever. You
- 56:22know what else is funny is that kind of looks like you just got off
- 56:25work at geek Squad right now. I know. I literally it looks so
- 56:30geeky right now. I love it. That's what I get to do now,
- 56:31and why I have to go early? Why what do you have to
- 56:35do? We're get to hang out with my friends and a girlfriend of mine
- 56:37is coming over. She's bringing wine, and we have a hot tub and
- 56:38we're gonna go just sit outside, look at my flowers and chill. Nice.
- 56:43Nice. Why didn't we get invited? I just said anytime you want
- 56:46to come up here, and then I said san Diego, that would be
- 56:50cool. We'll come and hang out. Are you bringing your hot tub from
- 56:52Colorado to San Diego? No, but I'm stoked to have one. It
- 56:55was my father in law's retirement gift to himself because he retired and was going
- 57:00to travel and then COVID happened. But now we can travel and we have
- 57:05a hot time. Nice. It sounds weird to say, but so yeah,
- 57:08so it's the thank God for COVID, right. It sounds weird if
- 57:13it doesn't make sense. But my mother and father in law also, we
- 57:15all share a house together. They live here too. Cool. Yeah,
- 57:20I like it. And the chickens. And the chickens they're great. They're
- 57:24laying one egg day. It's time to go. Let them out, let
- 57:27them chill so I can watch them and relax. All right, guys,
- 57:31to be continued. You guys are awesome. We will see you later a
- 57:36couple of months. We'll see you on your birthday. Thank you so much