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Matt Hepworth spoke with Deputy Opposition Leader Gerard Maley · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: You are our eyes and ears in the Territory Mix
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  Speaker 1: one oh four point nine.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Hepworth filling in for Katie Wolf this morning. If
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  Speaker 2: nine one o four nine, or you can text four
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  Speaker 2: one eight nine five seven three six nine. Well, at
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  Speaker 2: this time on a Wednesday morning, we usually have the
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  Speaker 2: Opposition Leader Leah finochi Arero. She's off to Canberra, so
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  Speaker 2: in her place this morning we have the Deputy Opposition Leader,
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  Speaker 2: Jared Mailee Jered.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning mate, Good morning listeners. Jared.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into the issue surrounding Alice Springs, Leah,
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  Speaker 2: what's she doing in Canberra this week?
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  Speaker 1: She's down there meeting with some federal ministers.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's got fifteen ministers to meet, just strengthening
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  Speaker 3: the right ship we've got with the federal government. And
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  Speaker 3: also I think today she met with Ken White and
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  Speaker 3: talked about the current affair interview and the story in
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  Speaker 3: the on the TV about that.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard anything of what the reaction has been
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  Speaker 2: like from Canberra following the airing of that report on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't anything personally, but I understand that Leah met
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  Speaker 3: with Ken White today and she wouldn't know about that
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  Speaker 3: when she gets back to your bag of some more
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  Speaker 3: information about that. Yeah, well certainly I can imagine it
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  Speaker 3: would be pretty pretty damning because it was a very
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  Speaker 3: daming report and I was shocked.
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  Speaker 1: I had goosebump and I was watching how about it
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  Speaker 1: really was?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess for us in Darwin and for
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  Speaker 2: those in our springs, you know that was no secret.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is something we've been we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about for a long time. Tell us a bit more
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  Speaker 2: about your reaction, you know while watching that report.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, I was watching on the TV and it
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  Speaker 3: was I just couldn't believe how the violence and just
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  Speaker 3: no respect for the law.
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  Speaker 1: These the people were running riot.
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  Speaker 3: There was shovels involved, there was sticks, and it was
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  Speaker 3: just it was like chaos.
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  Speaker 1: It was a mayhem down there.
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  Speaker 3: And our three members down in our springs have been
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  Speaker 3: talking to us repeated about that, and we've raised it
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  Speaker 3: in Parliament on many occasions, and in fact, last time
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  Speaker 3: we had a matter of public important about it. The
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  Speaker 3: Country Party spoke about it and only one labor person
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  Speaker 3: spoke about it, So I find it hard to believe
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  Speaker 3: that they can't pick up on the amount of crime
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  Speaker 3: that's in the right across the terity, not just our Springs,
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  Speaker 3: Tenant Creek, Catherine, in the rural area of Parmesan in
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  Speaker 3: the northern suburbs. It's spread right across the territory, and
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  Speaker 3: labor just do not want to talk about it. They
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  Speaker 3: seem put the head in the sand and it's hoping
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  Speaker 3: it's going away. But what I can say is not
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  Speaker 3: going to go away. Something needs to change.
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  Speaker 2: There was some suggestions or comments that the report was
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  Speaker 2: unbalanced and biased in the way that it shone a
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  Speaker 2: light on Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think what it did is there was a
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  Speaker 3: TV crew out at nighttime reporting what happened, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what happened. You can't say that those those fights were
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  Speaker 3: set up or that's what happened. They were in the
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  Speaker 3: street and I've been Alice Springs many times, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure lots of your listeners have as well. It's not
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  Speaker 3: a big town and it doesn't take long to walk around,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what they saw. So it's really it was
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  Speaker 3: really shocking to see the level of violence and the
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  Speaker 3: amount of police and they're just constant, constant police going,
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  Speaker 3: coming and going, and there's just more and more kids
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  Speaker 3: on the streets.
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  Speaker 4: What kind of effect do you think this is going
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  Speaker 4: to have on the town.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hope it doesn't have effect at all because
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  Speaker 3: we know COVID's hit and it's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: drive and we know that Alice Springs is the center
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  Speaker 3: of Australia. He's got airs, rock, there's got lots and
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  Speaker 3: lots of things in our springs and we want this
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  Speaker 3: tourism with the market to come to Darwen and to
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  Speaker 3: all the territory and all across it. But people got
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  Speaker 3: to come up from down south drive through our springs.
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  Speaker 3: What we don't want is just stopping getting fuel and
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  Speaker 3: keeping going. We want people to spend the money in
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  Speaker 3: the territory, in the north and the south, right across
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  Speaker 3: the territory. So it could have a really dramatic effect.
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  Speaker 3: I understand there's like a million odd views of that
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  Speaker 3: current affair program, so it's gone right across the Australia
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  Speaker 3: and it needs to be dealt with.
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  Speaker 4: Following the airing of that report.
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  Speaker 2: I believe the COLP will be introducing tougher bail laws
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament next week.
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  Speaker 4: What will that look like.
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  Speaker 3: Because remember in twenty nineteen, the Youth Justice and the
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  Speaker 3: bailac was very to give the use of presumption for bail.
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  Speaker 3: What we're going to do is we're going to change
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  Speaker 3: that and we're going to reverse that presumption so there
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  Speaker 3: is no presumption because at the moment if you get arrested,
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  Speaker 3: there's three different levels. There's presumption for bail, neutral and
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  Speaker 3: presumption against bail. Everyone that basically starts with a presumption
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  Speaker 3: for bail unless the prescribed defense, and then it goes
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  Speaker 3: into the neutral and then it goes into presumption against bail.
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  Speaker 3: And what we're going to do is make it so
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  Speaker 3: that these use there will be a psumption against bail
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  Speaker 3: so they don't automatically go out onto the street.
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  Speaker 2: One of the other things that report highlighted that was
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  Speaker 2: part of those changes was only being able to detain
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  Speaker 2: youth for a maximum of four hours before charges are laid.
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  Speaker 2: Will you be looking at reversing that as well, or
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  Speaker 2: is it just around the bail laws.
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  Speaker 3: We're just talking about the resumption of bail because remember,
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  Speaker 3: if someone gets arrested, the police are got to do
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  Speaker 3: their job to make sure they're resting the right person.
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  Speaker 3: But once they're charged and they're going to either get
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  Speaker 3: a police bail or court bail, that's where that presumption
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  Speaker 3: needs to kick in.
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  Speaker 2: Currently, the COORP obviously don't have the numbers on the
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  Speaker 2: floor to pass the bill. Do you hope you can
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  Speaker 2: get the Independence to vote with you on this? And
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's probably highly unlikely, But do you think
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  Speaker 2: there's a few Labor members that might vote on conscience
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  Speaker 2: rather than party lines.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they can vote on conscience. I
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  Speaker 3: think they get into a lot of trouble if they
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  Speaker 3: don't vote on party lines. But if the Labor Party
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  Speaker 3: don't vote for this, they're really putting the red flag
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  Speaker 3: up saying do or you want criminals? It's fine, we
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  Speaker 3: don't care. We're not going to change anything. We've done enough.
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  Speaker 3: But people out there in the community are crying out
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  Speaker 3: for help. There's right across the socials to see the
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  Speaker 3: reports about crime, people breaking in violence right across the
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  Speaker 3: alcohol fueled violence and just people breaking into people's houses.
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  Speaker 3: That needs to stop, and we need to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that people out there there are consequences for that and
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  Speaker 3: if you do a crime, the only to be a
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  Speaker 3: presumption against bail.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, reversing such a law would go against the recommendations
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  Speaker 2: from the Royal Commission into Youth Detention. We've had this
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  Speaker 2: conversation before that it's obviously a tough balance between striking
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  Speaker 2: those recommendations and ticking those off. But then we're in
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  Speaker 2: a situation where we are Now. Are you worried about
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  Speaker 2: reversing recommendations from a Royal Commission?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I am worried, but ultimately, the Northern Territory have
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: We need to protect the whole territory and at the
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  Speaker 3: moment there's crimes right across the territory and people need
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  Speaker 3: to know that if you commit a crime, there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a consequence, and the first consequence is you
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  Speaker 3: don't get released straight on bail. You need to spend
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  Speaker 3: some time in remand or in because you need to
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  Speaker 3: have some consequences for your actions. And at the moment,
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  Speaker 3: it seems that these youths break in, get arrested, get out,
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  Speaker 3: break in, get arrested, get out, breaking get arrested. That's
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  Speaker 3: the cycle that needs to stop. So we need to
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  Speaker 3: think of the broader community, not just the criminal here.
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  Speaker 3: When you talk about the victims, the victims need to
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  Speaker 3: come first.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Closer to Home. Yesterday we heard news that police
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  Speaker 2: have defended their handling of an alleged sexual assault of
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  Speaker 2: a child in Darwin's northern suburbs. The incident happened on Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: however details were only released on Monday. Are you concerned
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  Speaker 2: about the delay in media receiving this information.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am concerned.
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  Speaker 3: This is a serious offense and people in the community
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  Speaker 3: deserve to know what's going on. The police do a
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  Speaker 3: great job and I understand. Are they attended and arrested
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  Speaker 3: the alleged offended very quickly. By what needs to happen.
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  Speaker 3: It needs to make sure that the police media department
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  Speaker 3: get that information out so people know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Another rather horrific report we've heard this morning, reports of
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  Speaker 2: a team assaulted in a home invasion in Legena overnight.
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  Speaker 2: Are you worried we're hearing more of these stories in Darwin,
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  Speaker 2: and not just Alice Springs now here.
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  Speaker 1: It right across and I'm very concerned.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine how that poor forty year old feels
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  Speaker 3: she's at home or I think it's a female. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not even sure who was a female at home someone
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  Speaker 3: breaks into her house and then they assault her. You know,
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  Speaker 3: your home should be your car, so you should be
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  Speaker 3: where you should feel safe. But unfortunately, right across the territory,
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  Speaker 3: the suburbs Palmerston, in the rural area, Catherine, TenneT Creek
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  Speaker 3: and out of Springs, people aren't feeling safe from in
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  Speaker 3: their own homes. And that's where the problem is. That
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  Speaker 3: needs to change. You need to be able to come
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  Speaker 3: home from work and go my house. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: be safe. It's going to be how I left it.
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  Speaker 3: Or more importantly, you go to bed at nighttime and
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  Speaker 3: you wake up in the morning and it's the same.
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  Speaker 3: It's not somebody coming in breaking your house and then
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  Speaker 3: physically assaulting you in your own home.
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  Speaker 1: That's just disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an awful incident.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have more on that in local news at around
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  Speaker 2: nine point thirty this morning, Jerreed, just before you go
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  Speaker 2: on a much lighter note, today marks the three year
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  Speaker 2: anniversary of cyclone Markers. We're asking territorians of their memories
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  Speaker 2: of it this morning. Where were you and what were
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  Speaker 2: you doing when Marcus.
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  Speaker 1: Hit well, I was at home and how it springs.
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  Speaker 3: And I live right next auto my mum, who was
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  Speaker 3: a birthday yes, Toad, and I promise I wouldn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: She's eighty three, so I'm not going to tell anyone that.
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  Speaker 3: But she was her birthday and she was at my
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  Speaker 3: house because we bring her over when there's a big cyclone.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually it was a very gut reaching because
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  Speaker 3: we're here in cyclone Tracy and my mum lived in
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  Speaker 3: the same house that she was living in Cyclone Tracy.
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  Speaker 1: Which got destroyed it was rebuilt, and the Cyclone Marcus.
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  Speaker 3: We had toiled mahoganies which were all around the house,
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  Speaker 3: which grew right over the house. You physically couldn't see
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  Speaker 3: the roof from the trees, and they fell over and
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  Speaker 3: my mom was obviously and right beside at the time,
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  Speaker 3: was watching that from our verando when the tree fell
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  Speaker 3: over onto her house, and she was very devastated.
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  Speaker 2: She your mom must be one of the few Territorians
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  Speaker 2: that went through both Cyclone Tracy and then Marcus as well.
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  Speaker 1: And her home got destroyed on both occasions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a wild time. I think I've been
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  Speaker 2: back in down in about four weeks. Obviously, twenty six
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  Speaker 2: thousand homes without power. That damage bill less mattered to
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  Speaker 2: be over one hundred million dollars. But I think one
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  Speaker 2: of the only positives to come from it was thankfully
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  Speaker 2: no reports of major injuries or deaths.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we're very lucky about that.
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  Speaker 3: I've got horses as well, and I had a big
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  Speaker 3: mahogany rock beside my horse stable and that blew over
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  Speaker 3: and flattened my horse stable. So the horses they all
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  Speaker 3: ran out in the paddicck And I remember back of
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  Speaker 3: cyclone Tracy, we had horses in as well.
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  Speaker 1: They did the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: They went stood in the middle of the paddock and
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  Speaker 3: just put their their bums to the wind and just
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  Speaker 3: stood there with the heads basically on the ground. And
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  Speaker 3: they did the same thing a cyclone Markers even though
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  Speaker 3: their stable got flattened, they were out in the paddock
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  Speaker 3: and they just waited for the wind to go down.
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  Speaker 3: So our house was pretty well devastated and by cyclones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared, we could talk about this for hours, but
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  Speaker 2: we better wrap up a wide range of topics there
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  Speaker 2: this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Opposition leader Jared mainly, thank you so much for.
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  Speaker 2: Coming in this morning. Deputy Opposition leader Deputy Opposition lader.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't given the promotion just yet. No, I'll leave
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  Speaker 2: that one alone.