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Grounded Show Ep. 49 - Musical Therapy · The Grounded Show

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Uh Yo, this be but I can't with this guy. Yo, what
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it do? We live? Baby? What a dude? What a dude?
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We're back It got live my little Nicks. R. Jay Barrett.
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I just rained for a game seven on Sunday. That's all I'm hoping for.
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Okay, I'm with it. I'm with it. I would love to
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see that. A man whooping our asspe is a beautiful thing. Yeah,
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been whooping our ass long. It's been good God. What would you say
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is the missing or piece that needs to be replaced on that team? Because
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y'all definitely missing something. What do you say it is not? Do you
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think the Warriors are missing something? I think the Warriors are missing something,
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yeah, or the Lakers are just better than them right now. The Warriors
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are missing what they thought Jordan Pool would be okay so before Yeah, but
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player performances, played performance. So if you have the players pieces wise,
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I don't think the Warriors are missing it. Yeah, but but they're losing,
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and you know, I think the Lakers so I think the heat.
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You think y'all got the pieces? Yeah, I think we got the pieces
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to win. We know how to win. I just think one we let
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we lose to ourselves in Miami is just a good ass team. Bro.
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Miami is still. Jimmy Butler is an amazing player. Bro. He's one
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of a compare Kyle Lowry's a huster. He hit shots, and he hit
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shots, and he hit shots when he needs to hit shots. They're just
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the balling team, man, and if you're if you don't play better with
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them for forty eight minutes, you're not gonna win that game. I think
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if Randall played like how he played that first year when nothing mattered, yeah,
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wouldn't need nobody. But I think he played like that yesterday with and
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he had his eye swollen, he got his eye poked in, and that's
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how he played yesterday. That's what I'm saying. He got it. You're
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right, but you know what, in the locker room, you're stupid.
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He has to um also know he has it. You know what I'm saying,
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because like that ain't gonna lie. Bro. That press conference when he
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was like, yeah, they're just a better team or whatever, It's like,
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Bro, he didn't have that. He was even with the Jordan fool
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thing, like how he didn't get you know, he kept us back to
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the reporters when they was talking to him after that game that he didn't really
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get no minutes and he didn't really um score a lot of points. I
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think they took him out the whole fourth quarter and they interviewed him after.
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He didn't want to talk to nobody, like, bro, you gotta be
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that all the time. He threw shit to the Knicks. He said that,
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Oh, I guess they wanted more than That's what I mean. Yeah,
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they wanted and that's not the case. But it's like, brother,
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if that's the conversation, you're trying to have what your team have it with
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the team, but that's not how you do as you say, not as
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you do. You know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, you
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know what I'm talking. He got to set the standard. He has to
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play good too. It's funny, man. That's why that that ring culture
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is even funny to me because like I remember, like I remember, and
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I go back and watch and have seen Charles Barkley play, and he was
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a dog in every series, like he was gonna get his You wasn't gonna
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stop him, you know what I'm saying, Like you just had to account
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for He's gonna get his numbers. Who else are we gonna stop? And
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he gets mass shape because he don't got a ring. But it's like he's
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the guy that was the guy, you know what I'm saying. Just because
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he didn't get a ring doesn't mean that he wasn't toughness for sure, and
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he was just It's like, yo, real talk ten fifteen years from now,
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Bro, I don't think any of us would be like looking at Chris
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Paul like he's not Chris Paul, you know what I mean. It's like
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you can't forget like what that person was doing, you know what I mean,
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like whether they got a ring or not. Bro, No, that's
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for sure it was it was a difference maker. He has a lot of
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history. It sucks though, like y'all, you would love to see them
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win one. You know, in every sport there's always the ones who never
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just won that championship, but you know they were championship worthy. Would you
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want one of them rings like they're talking about with Patrick Beverley and Russell Westbrook,
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H Well, we played a war zone, you guys, zero kills
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and twenty one damage and you haven't played in fifteen minutes and they win the
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game. But UK right, big facts aw yo Quincy, um bring up
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that that thing we were talking about yesterday, Man, that that was super
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interesting and I want to get into it before we forget because it was just
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like such a crazy like just go ahead, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.
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So so basically, um, you know, I've been going through therapists
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for about a year now, um, and you know, I wasn't finding
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one that was really doing it for me, like you know what say.
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I was going just because it's you know, trying to get right, but
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it wasn't like hitting the way I've been expecting it too. And so I
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finally found somebody that, like off the first session, I was like,
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Yo, you know what I'm saying, I think you might be the one.
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Like you know what I'm saying, just from the question she was asking,
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the way she was taking information I was giving her, and you know
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the way that things were going. So basically, long story short, you
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know, I was talking to Lester yesterday about you know, essentially, you
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know, one of the things that I've been touching on with this therapist is
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just my relationships and how I approach relationships, how I perceive relationships and things
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of that nature. And you know, one of the things that I brought
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up in the conversation was just how people engage with the music versus how they
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engage with me in real life, and it's just a weird dynamic. And
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then you know, basically, you know, long story short, I have
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this thing about my music that I've always known, and you know, obviously,
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going through therapy, it's helping me kind of reveal it a little bit
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deeper. But you know where essentially, you know, like it feels like
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every song that I make, I'm trying to prove somebody wrong. I'm trying
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to prove people wrong. Like you can hear it in the music. It's
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like I'm literally like you know what I'm saying, almost telling you, like,
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yo, this is me, this is what I'm doing. You can't
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see it, and you didn't see it, you never saw it, whatever,
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whatever. But I'm trying to figure out a way to, you know,
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not only shift the way I think about relationships and about people, but
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shift the way I approached my music when it comes to that thought, because
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it's okay, you know, you hear future and whoever you know what I'm
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saying, make music about like you know, they always hating on me or
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whatever whatever it may be, but not so in your face. You may
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catch it, you know what I mean, but it's not so in your
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face. And I feel like when I'm making my music sometimes it's like in
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your face, and I want to like kind of transition into or out of
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that mindset, if that makes sense. And that's about that, Joe,
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Now, I definitely, I definitely see how you know, your music is
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a representation representation of you. So what you're putting out is representing how you
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feel today. And that's why I like you can tell what kind of things
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artists are going through by the music they put out, and that's unsets.
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Like people want artists to go through heartbreak because that's when they put out their
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best music. The same thing that just anything that is an output of view
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as a representation of yourself. So you're really if people are reading it a
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certain way and it's not the way you want them to read it, that's
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when you really got to think about how you're putting your stuff out and the
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method you're doing, like the way you're communicating, because it's important, it's
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important people get the right message, and but it's important that you feel like
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you're satisfying yourself by the message you're trying to get across when you put things
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out like that. Yeah, And the thing is is that, truthfully,
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I do satis for myself because for me, music is therapy, you know
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what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, I go to mental therapy now,
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but you know, in my life since I started music, bro,
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music is my outlet for everything that I've gone through. I got songs about
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just about everything I've gone through in my life, you know what I'm saying.
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So you know that for me, I don't ever want to get rid
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of because that's what brought me to music in the first place. But at
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the same time, it's like, you know, how can I channel that
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thought and that those you know, those thoughts and those energy or that energy
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into something else where it's not so personal, where it's more of a relatable
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thing. Because don't get me wrong, there's people that relate. But if
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you notice, like the hotter songs or the biggest songs typically are either surface
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level or if they are deep, exactly, they're not deep because because once
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you get too deep, you can kind of lose a lot of people because
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you know, you had me at the surface level, you know what I'm
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saying, And those are easy as I get skipped on the album by other
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people who aren't like really true fans of them exactly, and it's like,
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again, I don't want to get rid of that music, because again,
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if you're a true fan, you're gonna love that music all day. But
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you know, I also want to be able to translate it in a way
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that's not so deep cut. But you know what that's that's J Coole and
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that's Kendrick, and that's what they've always stuck to exactly, and they've never
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always put on music that I've wanted to hear. But I still respect to
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them, and I just know there's certain music that wasn't made for my year
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from them, and then there's because there's a bunch that is. And the
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craziest part is that my favorite music, and me as a person, my
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favorite music from J Coole was when it was nine times out of ten deep
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cut. You know what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong, I like
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the new stuff, but like that Friday Night Lights, you know what I'm
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saying. Hearing those cuts and hearing what he was talking about, then it
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hit a little different for me, so you have that fan base. Do
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not get me wrong. I'm not saying, you know what I'm saying loyal.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying I don't want to, but I
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want to figure out how to be able to do both. You get what
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I'm saying, because sometimes it's hard to get away from the deep cut.
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It's like, how can I channel that deep cut into something a little bit
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more surface level and a little bit more ear friendly? Yeah, what's your
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thoughts? Less? It's super interesting here and um, both of y'all talk
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about it because it's to me, it's like it's the difference between saying I'm
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having a bad day and saying nights like this, I wish that rain drops
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will fall, you know what I mean. Like, there's there's a different
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way of saying those things where like you're saying it's not so in your face,
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but you're still the feeling is still there, and people could kind of
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apply it to themselves a little more because you're putting it. You're capturing the
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feeling, but you're not making it specific exactly what I'm saying. And to
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me, it's like you mentioned the future and you know, say what you
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want about future, but if you listen to his music, the dude is
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an artist, what I'm saying, Like he is really like you could think
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whatever you want to think, but if you listen to a future album,
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this dude is not slacking when he's in the studio. This he don't.
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He takes this serious, you know what I mean. And you know he
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got like you said, he got them surface kind of songs and everything,
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but every once in a while he'll throw one in there and like and it's
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like you said, I think you said, but it's like if you catch
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it, he's saying some real, real real shit. Like it's like some
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real like like it'd be some of the like the realist stuff you ever heard,
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like on a song, you know what I mean, like countless times.
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And it's because it's not because he's not saying anything different from the point
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of view of like he's not going through something more special than what this other
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guy's going through, you know what I mean, He's just finding a way
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to say it that just it's like poetic and it hits at the same time.
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Yeah, that's that's that like magic space you want to be in,
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you know what I mean. You know and you know what took me there
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for him and just real quick, don't want to get too deep in the
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Future lyrics, but like when the Hendricks album came out and I heard those
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songs and I heard like fresh air and fresh Air. Yeah, I be
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like Janet Jackson, it's all for you, Like for him to be so
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vulnerable to just spit that bar in the middle of a hard track and an
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album like that and it sounds so fresh like he would. That's vulnerability right
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there for you to spit a bar like that, you know what I mean.
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But it's it just sounds so clean, it sounds like and it sounds
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so hard while you're doing it. Pause. Bro, Future got so many
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like not necessarily records, but accolades musically, you know what I'm saying,
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Like he'd be on these lists that you'd be like Futures on that list.
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But dog, when you think about it, he's been dropping fire music or
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as long as he's been out, bro, like he you know, even
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the stuff that people say of his whack, like to turn off the lights
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like that, even that stuff, I like, you know what I'm saying.
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So it's like, Bro, he hasn't missed so so let me ask
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this, do you know when you put things out there's gonna be people who
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normally listen to your music that might not enjoy it. Do you ever does
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that thought ever come across your mind? Not really, mainly because I know
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that every song that I put out, whether you listen to me or not,
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you may may or may not like it, you know what I'm saying,
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Because I'm not in the same lane with every song, you know what
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I'm saying. So like if you like, for example, if you're on
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your hippie shit and you're like good Days, I'm not expecting you to like
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Payback, you know what I'm saying. Like it's there, there are two
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different vibes, but at the same time, I'm trying to do me on
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both of them, you know. Yeah, yeah, So I have like
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I categorize my music and like two categories. It's like one of them is
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just I like to think of it as if you don't like this song,
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you just don't like music, you know what I'm saying, Like you may
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not like the genre whatever, like, but it's like, for example,
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like it's okay. When I did It's okay, I knew that that was
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like one of them songs that anybody could like, you know what I mean.
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You don't gotta listen to a certain type of music to like that song,
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because it just had that certain kind of sound and the catchiness with the
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hook, and I knew it was gonna work that way, you know what
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I mean. But then there's other songs like the Comfortable Song that it's a
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very like specific vibe, you know what I mean, And that's like people,
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you gotta like that kind of vibe. And it's something that I was
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telling you Quincy that like, because I used to wrap two back in the
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day, and when I made the transition of singing, it really opened my
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eyes to like why the singing kind of music is falling by the wayside because
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a lot of people don't listen to it, you know what I mean.
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Like people don't they can look for it, you know, even R and
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B artists that they like. People don't even know that they're dropping new music,
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you know what I'm saying. Like somebody would say they're a Neo fan
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and they haven't heard a song from him since twenty twelve, you know what
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I mean. And it's just it's not nothing against neo because obviously he's one
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of the biggest artists out and he has crazy hits. But that's just how
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people be, you know what I mean. So it's like kind of like
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trying to navigate that as an artist and really figuring out that it's like everybody
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around you is not going to be a fan, you know what I mean,
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Like just because you're making a certain type of music or you decided to
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take a certain type of journey in anything, it's not even just music,
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but in anything. Once you start doing something, you got to realize that
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that's your journey, like nobody else signed up to do it, you know
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what I mean. And it's like I always thought about it that way because,
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like you know, growing up Quincy, there were so many people that
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like always just expected help for things that you knew they could do themselves,
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you know what I mean. It's like there's certain people that they won't even
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start doing something unless they enlist that that secondhand to help them start, you
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know what I mean. And I just always looked at that and I was
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like, bro, that's so annoying, you know what I mean, Like,
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you don't I don't ever want to be in that space where it's like
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I'm leaning on something to get me to that next step, you know what
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I mean. And it's like I always carry that into the music too.
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It's like, if you like it, you like it. If not,
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That's why I'm doing music the way I'm doing it, because I'm trying to
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find the fans, you know what i mean. Yeah, once I could
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see like, yo, this this is working. This is not working.
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This is you know what I'm saying. Like after I started taking that journey,
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I kind of already know like, Okay, this is this kind of
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song or this is that kind of song. There's there's a song that um
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I put in our chat that um you know, some people like it.
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I don't like it, you know what I mean? And I can't put
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of. I can't tell you why, you know what I'm saying. There's
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no like, it's just that magic that we're talking about. It's like you
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don't if it don't have it, it don't have it. There's no explanation
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back and forth. It's back to the drawing board, you know what I
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mean. And that's something that I was even talking about earlier on Instagram,
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just like about collaborating with Quincy That's why me and him work well together because
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we're not attached to certain pieces of what we do more so like we're attached
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to the finished product, you know what I mean. It's like you hear
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what has potential in it, you figure out is this something worth exploring,
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and then you you know, swap out the pieces that don't work because at
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the end of the day, you're trying to look for that magic, and
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that magic is not easy no matter who you are, Like even you know,
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even like these big artists that we're talking about, sometimes they can do
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one album and then that's it, Like they just can't make anything as good
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as that thing that they made. But the beauty behind music is that,
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Like going off of what you're said, is that, you know, a
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little slight plug the good Morning Love Joint that's dropping next week. It is
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something that you know, we sat on for about a year, you know,
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like we had that song just in the vault, and even we were
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kind of like underestimating like how good it could be until we kind of like
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laid it down again better quality, you know, because at that time when
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I recorded that, I had just moved here. You know what I'm saying,
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Those walls weren't painted. Nothing in here was sound proved. It sounded
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horrible, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't even a good reference
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track to get an idea of what it what it could sound like, you
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know what I mean. So like that's a whole another process within itself,
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and and you know some people aren't really willing to go through that process neither.
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It's like trying to rush like for you know, for example, the
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song that you're talking about less like you know, even just being able to
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have the conversation like like yo, this could be done better, this could
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sound better here. It's like if we can't have that conversation, then how
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can we really collapse just just because you laid something on it, you know
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what I'm saying, It doesn't mean that it's it's ready, you know what
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I mean. Let's talk about it, let's figure it out, let's make
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it great, not just good like you said. Yep, because even with
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my own music and my own stuff, I'm listening to it and coming back
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and saying, m these you know, this little transition here, or these
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couple of bars here, or man, I could sing this part a little
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better, like you're trying to make this last and this whole notion of oh
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I record a song in fifteen minutes and it's a hit. Like it's like,
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bro, nobody's making hits like that because you know what I mean,
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Like if you were really making hits like that, they would be hits.
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You know, Yeah, there's no you know, it's just one of those
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things where when you make music, like there's people that want to make music
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because there's like a coolness factor to it, and then there's people that want
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to make music because they really are passionate about music, and then there's people
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that fall in between in that area, you know what I mean. And
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it's kind of hard to navigate that as an artist because it's such a it's
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the magic like we're talking about, so you can't force it. You can't
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like negotiate how to make it happen. Like it's like it's got to happen
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or it doesn't happen, and if it doesn't happen, we can try again
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and come with that same energy of hey, we're not coming with no egos,
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we're not attached to none, We just attached to making the dopest song.
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We need to do that or if that's not an option, then you
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know, good luck to you. It's interesting to hear that perspective. And
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that's so like what I would do, what I would have to choose between,
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is fighting that balance. And that's something that just in the podcast I
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put that I put out before like I would sometimes I didn't put content out
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that I wanted to. I put content out that and you people want to
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listen to And there's a fine line there and there's a islands there and I'm
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and I'm sure y'all got to think about every time y'all do something, which
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is it's interesting to hear about that thought process. And it's the same thing
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too, like like people say that they wouldn't do X, Y and Z
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sometimes, but it's like it'd be the same people going to a job,
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you know, taking orders from somebody, Like you know what I'm saying.
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It's like you're willing to take orders from somebody you know it's not on your
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level mentally yet agree with exactly, but but you're not gonna, you know,
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compromise to a certain extent to make your stuff happen, you know what
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I mean. Like, and you ain't never gonna get nothing one hundred percent.
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You know what I mean. No facts, it's not it's not just
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gonna be a you know, the sea parting and you just walk through and
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then there's an oasis on the other side, Like you don't work like that.
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Yeah, it's I think it's something that every artist has to battle with.
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And like there's some shit I've seen Doja Cats said, like her last
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two albums where money grabs it wasn't even like real music. She even gave
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a shit about which is crazy because like I'm not gonna flex dog like,
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uh, you know, Robin got that one Doja Cat vinyl album. I
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can't remember the name of it. That album crazy soun like she'll play that
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trunk on a Saturday or Sunday and I'll let that thing ride all the way
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through skips. Yeah, I thought I thought that was just sound. That's
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crazy. That's crazy. She's like, I'm gonna go not make no music
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and y'all can enjoy that fake pop shit y'all hear in the radio. I'm
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interested now to see to hear her her what she's trying to put out.
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You know what I'm saying, go ahead, No, I'm saying a lot
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of artists are doing that now. It's like there, like the Weekend,
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he said, he's trying to kill the Weekend, and he's like, this
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might be the last project with him as the Weekend, and that's the end
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of the weekend, and you know he maybe go forward. He isn't just
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able tered in hearing that sound. Yeah, he confirmed it. He's like,
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he's like, the can is gonna die. He's like this this might
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be it. He's like, but it's definitely something that's going to happen.
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He's like, he said, I've said everything I could say as the week
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the Weekend. I love that you brought that up, man, because that's
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literally a perfect way to kind of cap off exactly what I just said in
23:15
the beginning. Because it's like, I know for a fact that whether my
23:21
mentality changes on people or whatever it may be, my approach to music may
23:27
always for me be that way, not like you know, but just that
23:33
deep and that intuitive and that conscious you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
23:37
But the thing that you know, I battle on the flip side of what
23:41
they battle. They battle that it's like, yo, that pop shit's too
23:45
much that that you know, I'm not trying to do the weekend shit no
23:48
more, because I've said all I've said in that way, I am able,
23:52
you know what I'm saying, Like you're on the flip side of it
23:56
and I'm on the other side where it's like, yo, I'm Quincy Jamal,
23:59
this is what you get. But at the same time, how can
24:03
I be more pop or be more socially accepted to appealing you know what I
24:10
mean. It's it's very interesting to hear that. I'm glad you brought that
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up because that's a super dope way to kind of like, you know,
24:18
put the other end of it on this conversation and to think about how far
24:23
he had to get in his career to finally be and no pun intended able
24:27
to do that, you know what I mean. He had to get that
24:33
established to be like, all right, I think I could cut out the
24:36
weekend and I still be successful after this point. M Yeah, it's a
24:41
lot of things an artist. Yeah, it's dope because it's definitely like I
24:48
said, you're trying to chase magic. It's that thing that I've mentioned a
24:52
couple of times of like with music, you're like going somewhere, you're transporting
24:56
somewhere to bring something back, like it's like a vibe when people hear it,
25:00
it's just undeniable. And when you can do that, it's like you
25:04
there's no right way to do it. There's no wrong way to do it.
25:07
It's just like you gotta follow whatever whatever it is inside you, because
25:15
that's really what makes the music so it is, you know. And it's
25:17
perfect segue to where I think we can wrap this show up, where we
25:19
have a few minutes left. The ice Spice sound, Yo, I'm telling
25:26
you, it's grown. It just keeps brouh. All these other women artists
25:30
don't get invited to all the ship she's doing, all the mad gallas she
25:34
has, like she's being flown to Paris. She has sponsorship ads contract,
25:38
and she's still making music. And then she's not even putting a new album.
25:42
She's rereleasing the first album with a like it's more addition. That's that's
25:48
smart, give it, that's smart. And she really got Nikki co signing
25:52
her as a princess, like it's the blue print. She's like, she's
25:56
like a female pop smoke to me to be real, like yeah, like
26:02
crossed over, this pop smoke is the same thing he kind of crossed over
26:04
into that like other space where he was like, here, here it is,
26:08
Here's where I want to go. How long before she lets that sound
26:12
go and she transfers to the appealing in the more popular side she doesn't.
26:21
That kind of goes to what we were originally talking about with spices, like
26:23
we gotta see where her sound goes and how it transitions, how she sounds
26:29
five years, ten years, like, and see what kind of turns it
26:32
takes. Because you know, like we said about Future, bro, there's
26:37
only certain people that they just got it and it's just yeah, but just
26:41
I think Future is given us what he gave from day winning now. So
26:44
like when I told you when I talked about from the beginning of Cardi B
26:47
effect, Cardi B on bodat Yellow wasn't the Cardi B who drops tracks today
26:52
of course. And that's what I feel like, I'm gonna be real,
26:56
bro. Even when I heard bold at Yellow, Bro, but that Yellow
27:00
was hard, Bro. I saw you know what I'm saying, Like like
27:03
I was like, yo, she she rocked the show and everything, but
27:08
I wasn't. I wasn't sold on her just yet. Yeah, um as
27:12
a as a superstar you know what I'm saying. But as the sound,
27:17
as the sound changed, and I was like all right. By the time
27:21
she did that that track with Adam Levine and that album, I was like,
27:23
all right, she's on. You know what I'm saying, And I
27:26
think that's what I'm waiting on for Ice Spice, Like, don't get me
27:29
wrong, bro, I'm here for it. I love what they're doing with
27:33
her. She has the image, Bro, she has it. You know
27:36
what I'm saying, Like, absolutely has it. But I'm just interested to
27:40
see how the music translates over time. That's it, because and I wanted
27:45
to keep being the Ice place yes today when she can be and not let
27:49
that shit go. M yeah, because I added like it's it's kind of
27:53
like I was saying, like that attitude and who she is is what makes
27:56
the music. It's not she's not. It works for her because it's not
28:02
her doing something like it's just like the same thing the way I feel about
28:06
twenty one Savage, Like he's so dope to me, it's like it just
28:10
you could tell he ain't faking it. If he is, he's doing a
28:12
real good job because it just sounds so authentic. Everything he says the way
28:18
that's not who he is a great point. I think he is a truly
28:22
genuine artist, and if he's not, he's doing an elevigant job at it
28:26
exactly. And it's like there's certain people that just know how to tap into
28:30
who they are but make it appealing. And that's what she's been able to
28:33
do. And hopefully she can keep advancing that and keep taking it to the
28:37
next level. Yeah for sure. Yeah, she definitely got a super unique
28:41
voice. I agreed. A lot of times, you just keep listening just
28:45
to be like like trying to catch the vibe of the voice, you know
28:49
what I mean. Like, it's kind of like, bro, And then
28:52
if they built, they just keep building that team and the best production,
28:56
the best riders, the best mix, And that's what I feel like.
29:00
You know, as as long as she can get she can get the right
29:03
people around her, bro, they can push her far. Yeah, under
29:06
the right label. I mean, I can't remember what label she's under,
29:08
But as long as they do what they need to do, they definitely can't
29:12
push her far um. But they just gotta do what they gotta do.
29:18
I've sensed it. I seen him like and kind of one more thing I
29:22
want to say is that we mentioned the chat like when Wayne spit his verses
29:26
on So Far Gone and for Drake being probably maybe a couple levels down from
29:32
Ice Spices now. But I think Wayne just seeing that this shit's gonna hit
29:37
for a long time, like this, dude's gonna I'm not gonna lie though,
29:41
Bro, I'm not gonna lie Drake. When I first heard Drake Dog,
29:47
it wasn't very hard to assume that he was gonna beata I'm talking about
29:52
was so Far Gone like he had was a celebration and home coming. I
29:56
think that's what No. So Far Gone was like when anybody could see that,
30:02
like, yeah, I'm talking about come back season. I'm talking about
30:04
comeback Ya, I'm back season. I knew Wayne until So Far Gone,
30:10
so he had to do all that before he had Wayne. But that's what
30:14
I'm saying, Bro, And I'm not going against what you're saying because I
30:17
I'm here for what you're saying. I still gotta see it, but I'm
30:19
here for it. But that's what I'm saying is that I didn't need Wayne
30:25
and Drake's corner to say, like Drake Yo, I like I saw Drake
30:30
as a he was gonna be big back from I think that song July,
30:33
which I think he did with Jenei Eco, way before either of them were
30:37
anybody. Jenei Eco wasn't anybody. He wasn't anybody, and that was a
30:41
banger, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I hear what
30:45
you're saying. Dog, I just like, even with the label, I
30:51
have to I have to still see it, bro, I gotta still talk
30:55
about this, yo. I can't wait. I'm not gonna lie because I
31:00
really want you to be right. I really really have the clips. Yeah,
31:07
I really want you to be right. It's it's always super interesting to
31:15
hear an artists like that and think, like, dang, there's so much
31:18
you could do there. I wonder what they're gonna do, you know,
31:22
up to them. And if she stayed humble and she she keeps making the
31:26
right decisions, she can she can get crazy big And I'm gonna be real.
31:32
If this was twenty eleven, dude, I would have easily said you're
31:34
right, absolutely, But at twenty twenty three and the way attention spans are
31:38
now, bro, because anybody can get there, but everybody can last.
31:41
It's hard, bro, It's so hard to keep people there. It's so
31:45
hard. Like, let's be real, bro, who who has come out
31:49
after like twenty seventeen that stayed relevant? You know what I mean? Like
31:53
a lot of people that we consider like legends are relevant or from way before
31:57
that. Yeah, yeah, you got a good point. Then. Travis
32:04
Scott, he was before twenty seventeen. I was in Travis Scott. I
32:08
think in early, like I think fourteen is when he really loved Yeah.
32:12
Yeah, yeah, I didn't catch until like eighteen, he was even.
32:15
I was super late on Travis Scott. Shout out to my boy Matt,
32:17
he's my boy's little brother, and he thought I was crazy not knowing in
32:22
Travis Scott. But that was like at the time when I wasn't even really
32:25
like paying attention to music. I wasn't even really doing music. I was
32:30
like, yeah, that was like twenty fourteen exactly. I wasn't even it
32:32
wasn't yep. But yeah, the same thing. I call him late.
32:37
And I remember hearing um just like that album the Rodeo and hearing the Astro
32:43
World Joint, like I remember hearing it when it dropped, I was like,
32:46
oh my gosh, one of those where it was like, oh no,
32:50
this is different m for me. It was after goose Bumps. I
32:54
was sold. I think goose Bumps is on days before Rodeo, right or
32:59
is that on after World? That's what it was. He was like a
33:02
bart with Kendall Black Kendall on the cover. R Yeah, yeah, yeah,
33:06
that's that stays before Rodeo. Yeah. Travis Scott was one of those
33:09
that I went backwards, you know what I'm saying and listen to his older
33:13
stuff, and then I liked a lot of it. He's dope, yeah
33:19
man. But yeah, man, we're about to drop that Good Morning Love
33:22
May nineteen. He's getting a lot of good feedback, the little clips and
33:25
stuff, the teachers. I can't wait for people to see the video.
33:28
Got a cool little funny story to it, some plastic little clips in it.
33:31
I'm holding off on the little clips. Yeah yeah, facts, you
33:36
know I say, the little funny ones. I want to start using them
33:37
once we drop it. Because this man, Joe just turned you into a
33:42
jift bro. The the one of you dog, little video of you,
33:47
Bro. That's it. Oh my god, it's a good video. Johnny
33:52
did this thing with that woman for sure, Johnny Man, we caught a
33:54
vibe that video. Man. Yeah. Man. Oh and if you on
33:59
this episode, then Reminisce has dropped. Its dropping tomorrow, but I think
34:02
this think gonna be out Tuesday. So yeah, man, go ahead and
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tap that in. Check that out. You listen to Reminisce, go back,
34:09
check it out. I am Quincy Jamal. Yeah, make sure y'all
34:14
tap in anything you got for him. Joe Nah Man, y'all stay,
34:19
stay, butter m not do not do not. M