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The IndyCar Report with Elijah Poe & Michelle Garmon: Freedom 250 Preview (3.4) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the indie car report with Elijah Pope every week on the Central Indiana Sports Report this week joined by Tipped and Tribune and L. Wood Collider Sports Editor, the Shell Garmin.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, Dave Chandley as an alleged game and is unable to join us, but Elijah, Michelle and I are going to be talking about the DC race this weekend.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So fascinating.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the Indie Carport with Elijah Poe.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Elijah Poe here with Greg Ming out.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Michelle Garmin as we preview what should be one of the most unique races of the year as the Indie Car series heads to these treats of Washington, D.C. and racing around our nation's capital.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: It should be super, super fun.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's going to be a great time.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe the drivers are really excited.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rumor has it that presidential motorcade is going to do the very first lap around that circuit on race day.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of excitement surrounding it.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the drivers are very excited about this race course and give credit to DC.
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not going to be another Toronto.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've already started.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Constructing the courts they are probably got more done and a week in Toronto got done in months I've been saying for a long time since they announced that this could just be an absolute disaster It there was potential for absolute saster It seems like they've handled it really well.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah Compared to Markham, it seems like they're really progressing well and
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They probably could have had practice on Friday if they'd want to do, but shutting down DC for two days on a weekend, pretty special event.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you said they could have practiced on Friday, but I honestly think it's beneficial for any car just to get everything done and have a jam packed schedule on Saturday and Sunday.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to please the fans that are there.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be, I mean, literally non-stop running from 9 a.m.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: qualifying that starts at 5 p.m. on Saturday.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's going to be just a great event.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've seen some track videos of Aaron Lykins.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's the, he's in the flag stand for Indie car.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is one of the best around.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you have a chance to watch Indie car race, I would watch that flag stand because he is incredible, especially at the 500.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: He absolutely kills it.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he's shown some videos of the Capitol building on the course itself.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just can't believe Indy cars are going to be racing here in just a couple days.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what Elijah, the secret service, the stand on top of the roof at the White House, they're going to have a spectacular view of that race.
• 3:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, Kudos because they may not all the racing may be done on.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Saturday, but the drivers will get there and they'll be able to walk the course a little bit them and their crews on Friday or Thursday.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Something they couldn't do at Markham and Dad.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indicard needs a big, a big win this weekend.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know they had decent ratings for the Markham race, but I thought last weekend overall was disappointing.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have had less time than DC to prepare.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I granted you knew with being in DC and the security and everything that they weren't going to run behind, that it's still going to be.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, you're going to let them do that.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was fully expecting them to run beyond the government.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you were great, but I wasn't because I mean, there are protocols and you just can't run behind there.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or you're going to have to cancel the event.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there is no way that the president is going to be a good answer.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big answer.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was a big answer.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm mostly gesting, but when you,
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: When the Indie Car got involved with the government, my first thought was that could be, it's just tragic.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I, of course, Michelle is completely correct.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: The people who are in charge of this are taking it very seriously, and it seems like it's gone very well.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And really, this weekend is more about the spectacle, I think, than even the racing, although Michelle's right.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: The series needs to take advantage of this.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to meet more eyeballs than usual.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as bad as the prep was for Markham last week, the racing was incredible.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if the racing is anywhere near as good as it was last week, I think the entire country is going to be fascinated by this.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's interesting you said spectacle because really the only spectacle indie car has right now on the schedule is the end 500 and I think they need more races like this every year where you know obviously you're going to have the hype and momentum around the 500 but if you can have one race and maybe two races that just fuel and important you know that's all fans want they want the moment and the race to feel important and sure
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, we know it's important for championship points and standings and everything like that but to have an event that's bigger than the race itself is rare in Indie car other than the 500 and I think they've nailed it here Let's get what you see these cars on track.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's going to be a lot of laps 147 laps to get that 250 miles in so it's going to be quite the hole for these Indie car drivers, but you know what I'll just when you
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: read stories where they've been interviewed or you watch their interview clips.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: These drivers are excited.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: They like that it's longer.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of excited about the challenge.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And probably I'm guessing the crew chiefs and the racing team leader, you know, they might not be as excited wondering how their cars are going to hold up.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's a great thing for indie car because I think
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: cars are able to survive the majority of the cars are able to do the whole 250 miles.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we could see another long road race or street course race next year.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something that they might look to try to add one of those every year.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think it's going to be so interesting strategy wise.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're going to have five plus pit stops.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if I was someone's going to have to send an extra set of tires, I may just see how the strategy plays out.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I think that's maybe part of the excitement around it.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even with the drivers, it's DC.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's still long range.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot going into it.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's going to take driver talent.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take great strategist.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did, again, I just think it's exciting.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's exciting all the way around.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I, the fact that the drivers are excited about what's coming up this weekend is fun too, because like you said, even the drivers, they enjoy racing every weekend.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think for them, even this race right here has given them some of that extra excitement.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: joy that they get from the end 500.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Since that race happens in May, it's kind of nice to have something towards the end of the schedule that brings that same kind of motivation and excitement energy.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we're going to take a quick break when we come back.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Elijah, I want you to tell us a little bit about the race course.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: As Greg mentioned, this track is a super super interesting and it starts at the start finish line which is going to be pretty much dead center, so it's not a stage capital and it hit down the term one.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to turn into Pennsylvania Avenue by a time they go through passing the National Gallery of Arts.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: They got a few paddocks section and I think it's going to be so we're going to see this meet the video.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though it's different
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest, I've got to be honest
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: to the United States Capitol building in man.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I cannot wait to see what Fox does.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a pretty square layout to be honest, but nevertheless, I think Fox is going to be able to absolutely crush the camera angles this weekend.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do too Elijah, you know, and I'm thrilled and really looking forward to the Cindy car race, but I'm also really excited to see the Iraq race.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's going to be fun with the drivers that they have.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like the
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: broadcast team that they put together to cover that part with camera angles.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that is going to be a lot of fun too.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the pit lane looks interesting as well.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the word that keeps coming to my mind is spectacle.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every time they turn somewhere, you're going to see just an amazing view.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's interesting that we got the I rock paddock at a different location and that's a great call Michelle, this is going to be I mean, some of those racers in the I rock race are going to be just hilarious to watch.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're talking about people who haven't driven it in professionally in years Pair it up with some of the best drivers I've ever ever seen, but he'll be such a
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say this.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you a guy like Jeff Gordon has been, he's been out in a car racing some doing laps and racing somewhere since he knew he was going to be driving an iraq car in this event.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably never stop driving fast somewhere.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're probably right.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's hard to imagine guys like Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon not having a course somewhere where they go out and let it hang out, you know, you wonder has Roger Tinsky has he opened up, I am asked the road course for any of those drivers if they want to get in the I draw and that haven't driven them while and get behind and get re familiar with racing.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be surprised, I feel like there's somebody always on that indie course, I really know, matter the time of the year.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there are always courses like Barber and things like that that we couldn't go and brim time to see the track.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, exactly right.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm sure that some of these guys and some of them will just show up on race day and have fun.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sure some of them will be super competitive and some of them will just be out there to have fun.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a really interesting event, especially considering we haven't even heard the name of Iraq in such a long time.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also looking forward to because I think what you're going to see is I think it's a great weekend, not just for racing, but just for drivers themselves that want the current indie car drivers.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know they've
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: socialize and mix around with other drivers like a Jeff Gordon.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Tony Stewart did any car racing for a while.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, and then this guy's, but I think you're going to see a lot of the indie car drivers watching the I rock race and then I think it's going to, you're going to see a lot of those I rock racers hang out and watch the indie car race the next day.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's a second week in a row.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going into a race weekend blind last weekend, produced and so just some of the best racing I've ever seen.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was all so much fun.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I I don't know that I would call it some of the but there were some great racing.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Mark is Eric's and what he did is phenomenal at the end, but even I heard some of the driver or some of the drivers even talking about they don't have to make a huge adjustment, but they do have to open up that real close tight hairpin turn just so they know that.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not I don't want to watch a race that there's a caution every five or six laps early on until it only happened three or four times.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had an adjustment period and then they made it through every single time Elijah.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the only issue with the hairpin is that it just looks silly.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that you have a hairpin going around just one pointed corner, just looks a little for better lack of term, it's just a little amateurish by the track building itself.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which I don't want to see in the car do.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, a second week in a row that they are going completely blind into a course, so you would think that like last week in kind of favors the big teams.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think obviously the race winner last week, I look to him dreading to be pretty strong here.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: On all street courses, I think in dreading is the top tier team.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I look at Alex Blow, of course.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be another one of those weeks.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you never know, maybe RLL, if we saw Louis Foster capture the poll, maybe they pull something magical.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's extra special and maybe a little extra motivating to RLL, they have an American race car driver, their own by Americans.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think just being the race itself in DC and celebrating the 250th birthday of the country, I think it's maybe, you know.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you saying the learning of Irkins a lot to win this race, Michelle?
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is I think what it does is for Ray Hall, I think they may have, maybe even just a little bit more emphasis and into preparing for this race and extra time and effort just because I think it, it's going to be very special to them to win it because of just not that it's different course, but the significance of everything, the celebration of the United States 250th birthday.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Graham Ray Hawk could win this race.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be my best outcome.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be crazy.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it could happen.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a long, long time since he's been in victory lane and, you know, the, the Ray Hawk car seemed to excel on this kind of course, and I'm going to call him my dark horse guys.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll be my dark horse, too.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we all know that I, I really like Alex below as much for the what he does off the track.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of most all indie car drivers are really good off the track as well as on the track with fans, but I will probably be pulling for Graham Rahol a little bit because I'm not going to say that only an American can win this race, I just think it would be extra special if an American did win this race.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think a good dark horse.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, we know how good Reno's VK is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Louis Foster is able to kind of build off of what he built last weekend and maybe deliver a result.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: We know he's a very talented driver.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, that's three polls.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: and in the any car series it in the last two years and I think probably could have competed for a podium if he didn't kind of crash himself out there in Markham.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I look for him.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: My question is though, if a Brit, if a Brit wins the race, does he get booed in victory line?
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they should, they should, for sure.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's always boring when I pick Alex below, but I guess since I'm picking against American me picking Alex blows a little less boring this week,
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's hard not to take below.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I'm going to take Marcus Erickson again.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that drive was just so convincing last week.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's able to replicate any of the success he had on another new brand new street course.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just really hitting his stride with Andrew right now.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's going to, if not when I think being the podium, you know, he has an American teammate, right?
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: He could bounce back.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kirkwood definitely needs the result.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another American that I wouldn't be surprised, you know, I would not be surprised if Kirkwood wins on the podium.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he and Graham Ray Hobo can definitely finish in the top five.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They always had their fingers on the pulse and with this being something new and the extended laps and everything.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just that 10 team.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just look for them to have just a slight advantage.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just seem to just always
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: make really good calls and have real good instincts on this.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't be surprised if the 10 is in victory lane.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ray Hall or Kirkwood would be, it would be pretty cool.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I believe Malukus is another American.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Am I not right?
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I mean, hey, I'm going to say this.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bet this race means a heck of a lot to Roger Penske too.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I won't kind of out Malukus
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even though they haven't been great, that's necessarily great on the street courses this year I just think this race is a little bit different.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all know we've covered on those sports and watching it there are certain events that happen that you can kind of throw out what history says about success in the on.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: the in an environment are on that quarter whatever because there's just something extra special about the event that changes it kind of puts everybody on on even square kind of like a high school basketball in the end of everybody's zero zero when you enter the posties and turn them it.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would not be surprised if somebody that a team that maybe.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is really good, but extra motivated if they find their way to victory lane that hasn't snipped a lot of victory lanes this year.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Perfectly said.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, yeah, obviously we know there's no practice on Friday.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to jump into the action on Saturday with the first practice being at 9 a.m. Second practice coming at 1 p.m. And qualifying at 5 p.m. And I know Indie car is going to start on Sunday.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: The warm up at 9, but there is going to be a pre-race show that starts out at 11 30 that will take us up to the Indie car race at 1 o'clock Eastern on Sunday should be just an awesome jam packed weekend.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: full of indie cars that honestly, we're probably going to ever see again in the place that racing.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So let's enjoy this weekend and hopefully we'll get some good racing.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we do and I'm guessing that because of the event where it's at that clock is not leading into this with anything that's going to overrun, right?
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good bonus time if you don't mind because I do want to talk about that.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: More sports talk in bonus time Bow this time on this intro game
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fox has, and we knew as it was happening, I don't know if you were even old enough to lie to you to remember, but how bad the coverage was on ABC and how bad, how little they gave a damn about anything other than the ND500 and Fox is a giant corporation that doesn't need our thanks, but NDCar should be really grateful that Fox has is putting so much into this series, and it's been pretty cool.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: and Hinch and Townsend are so good compared, especially compared to Scott Goodier, who is just the worst.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we had to deal with him for 20 years and it just, I'm so thankful every weekend that I won't even complain very much about, well, Bucks and I do miss Lee Diffy.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because the other two are so good.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my only thing with Bucks' him is not bad except when he thinks he's got to have like a Emil Ward, sports Emil Ward performance every week, every call and he, you know, just I think that took the cake for me He was last weekend and qualifying win.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: and plowed it in even destroy the car and he says, well, this could put a, and you, you know, hurt his talking about how it could really hurt him, it's a cause he's been so stupid.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been so dumb.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going, what the heck you just made yourself sound like an idiot?
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what's happened.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Five or six times this year or I'm just like, what is he saying?
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't believe when there were five laps left in the race
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: that Erickson might have a chance to catch him.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, he's gonna catch him by the end of this lap.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're more on.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not an understand racing at all.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you're right, most of the time is fine.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just gets these, where he goes full bucks, then is one of our, one of our cometer said on YouTube.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Never said full little bucks, then.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And those moments kind of ruin it because, you know, because he can't even have a great time and then he just gets and I think he's a, you know, I think he's a nice guy.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He really seems to, you know, I think he respects the series, the drivers and everything.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: he's just he probably needs to on his downtime he needs to just really watch a little book more racing and he needs to ask somebody to critique him in a positive.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, kind of, it's a good way.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, constructive way.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you should listen to this.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, well, we think you're pretty good.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need to say some less dumb things sometimes.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, and I don't want him fired or anything, but why have they just not made Kevin Lee that guy?
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin knows everything about it.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a great voice for it.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every Indian car fan loves him.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, it makes you wonder.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it must be a fox thing.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Wilbux and with his time and formula one, I just think maybe they're thinking he brings more fans from that side.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he does, and I think obviously year two, I'd be interested to see what his announcing looks like, and year three and even in year four and five here coming up.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's still better than anything ABC ever did.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Although I liked Eddie Chiever, these two guys are way better than Eddie Chiever ever.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I always thought like with ABC and wait, especially when it came to the 500, I always thought they'd been better off getting some of our local guys or the radio guys to do it, because even the analysis, I always liked that.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I always felt like ABC is CBS and, you know, well, channel 6, channel 13, channel 8, then it's 4 now.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that they always brought in, they always went, got the driver's skirt.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: that they knew really knew and were really good about providing analysis through the month of May.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Sam Posey was awful in the 60s and 70s and Bobby answer wasn't very good in the 80s and then Scott Goodier just drove me nuts every Sunday.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I agree with you.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it wasn't.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it wasn't bad.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did it occasionally.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was Johnny Ruffin for it.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there were some guys who came in and did it occasionally who were really good.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: There were guys who did it for a year or two Danny Sullivan who was pretty good, but they never stuck around.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, they did.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they stuck with Scott Goodier for some reason.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said the same thing every Sunday and almost the exact same order.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was cool.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm to, we are kind of, you're kind of behind that, we're kind of, I want to say that.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Elijah, we're discussing people and events and races.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's broadcasting.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You probably have no clue about.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do not.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember even Scott Goodier?
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll go back and watch some classic races and you'll see what we said.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He talked to the audience like they were all four years old and nobody understood racing and he tried to un-every race, tried to explain racing to everybody who was watching every week.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's Greg, this is what I'm guessing.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing Scott, good to your head of friend, and a journalism professor, friend, or somebody.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was harmless, they loved him because he was harmless, and he didn't talk to me.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But told him that you get, you know, because I remember, I'll never forget the late great time Kerry told me once he said, because I'd used the word in story, because I really liked this word he goes, but I'm gonna leave it in and he said, but something to remember,
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: you need to when you're riding you need to believe that not that no one's got you know that you're riding to a fourth grade level reading that's right you're riding to the dumbest people who are reading the pick that's right yes and i think he probably got that that's not the same when you're on tv as when you're riding a story a complicated story that's right that's great
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he was I'm sure he was great told the new people who are watching every week but for the one the two million people who were watching every week the same people it got really annoying anyway yeah especially the true racing fans because they know what about racing it no it's ugly I think that's one of the biggest reasons I hate all of this
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: and like this in-game interviewing and that the NBA and WNBA, they do and even baseball.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, baseball shoot.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Cardinals outfielders or the Cardinals, somebody's outfielders other night, was, was Mike's up and they were talking to him during an inning.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: If a game might not have that during the All-Star break, because the All-Star game, the All-Star game is just entertainment.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: As well as what I don't look at it.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: They do it on all the games now and it's, I, as a traditionalist, just not a big fan of it.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big fan of it as a sports fan, because my thing is I'm here, I want to see the competition and the competitiveness and I know you're trying to bring in the new viewers are trying to engage more fans, but I also get tired of it.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they do it trying to get the quote unquote, the female fans acting like females don't know about sports and that might have been the case.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: 30 years ago, might not have been as intuitive sports, but you see more females in the sports journalism, and in the field, females are more sports knowledgeable and savvy than they've ever been, and so to me, that's just terrible to continue to do this.
• 27:33
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