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Bittisode 011: The Island that Despised Doing it! · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to an airwave media podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to Hooded Want Now the history podcast.
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Speaker 2: It's not your history class, but ysod's those little bits
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Speaker 2: of history that don't.
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Speaker 1: Quite fit in anywhere else.
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Speaker 2: With me, your host, Katie Charlwood, history harlot and reader
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Speaker 2: of books. Spooky season is almost upon us, and you
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Speaker 2: know what that means. Pumpkins are everywhere, Like every time
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Speaker 2: I see any of that family of vegetables, they're vegetables.
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Speaker 1: Wait are they fruit? Are pumpkins fruit?
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Speaker 2: Because their seeds are on the inside, so that that
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Speaker 2: makes them fruit?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So, over the last few years, I've gotten into the
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Speaker 2: habit of saying, oh my gourd, like because who doesn't
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Speaker 2: love seasonal puns, thank you very much. I think last
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Speaker 2: year I was very much into the Kaiser Chiefs and
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Speaker 2: I was.
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Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I can't believe it.
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Speaker 2: I've never been this far away from home and similar
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Speaker 2: but not the same. It's been Marina and the Diamonds.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: Because I thought that was funny. Because I think I'm funny.
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Speaker 2: Nobody else has to, That's fine, But anyway, I wanted
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Speaker 2: to do something a little bit more fun and less
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Speaker 2: depressing than our last episode, because we're getting into spooky season,
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Speaker 2: and that means I'm going to be talking about the creepy.
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Speaker 1: Dark, violent, awful.
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Speaker 2: Horrific, disastrous history, lots of witches. Very much into the
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Speaker 2: Witches this year, and surprisingly enough, not the happiest of tales,
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Speaker 2: and as such it's gonna be a thing. I thought,
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Speaker 2: we'll do something a little bit lighter, and I thought,
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Speaker 2: what would be more fun than leaning into the stereotype
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Speaker 2: of Ireland and the island that didn't have sex or
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Speaker 2: the island that despised doing it, which is my favorite title.
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Speaker 1: I just wow.
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Speaker 2: I remember reading about this back when I was looking up.
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Speaker 2: I did this series called thirty two Counties and thirty
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Speaker 2: two days Irish History in sixty seconds or less, because
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Speaker 2: there are thirty two counties in Ireland and as such,
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Speaker 2: I wanted to do a piece of history on each
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Speaker 2: one over thirty two days, which it literally took me,
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Speaker 2: I think, two months to gather all the information for
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Speaker 2: thirty two counties because some counties did not have a
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Speaker 2: lot happen in them, and then some had two more
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Speaker 2: and then I had to choose what I was going
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Speaker 2: to talk about. But anyway, And I remember reading about
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Speaker 2: this island because it was something to do with a
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Speaker 2: weird Eastern tradition somewhere which led me into this rabbit
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Speaker 2: hole which trickled down, trickle down, trickle down, I end
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Speaker 2: up here Inishbug. Now a lot of her information comes
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Speaker 2: from John and Betty Messenger, who were anthropologists who visited
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Speaker 2: the island in the sixties. Now, a lot of the
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Speaker 2: stuff regarding that was produced regarding this island.
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Speaker 1: It has John C.
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Speaker 2: Messenger's name on it, but doesn't have Betty's. Why are
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Speaker 2: we fucking surprised?
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Speaker 1: Like she was there.
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Speaker 2: She did a lot of the fucking work to me,
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Speaker 2: like she was also an anthropologist.
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Speaker 1: It's not just you, John, sit down.
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Speaker 2: So while the rest of the world was getting into
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Speaker 2: the swinging sixties.
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Speaker 1: Inishbug was not.
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Speaker 2: The Messengers had moved to Inishbug in order to conduct
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Speaker 2: some ethnographic research between nineteen fifty eight and nineteen sixty six,
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Speaker 2: so eight years, and they came to the conclusion that
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Speaker 2: this devout Catholic island off the coast of Galway was
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Speaker 2: one of the most sexually repressed slash sexually naive places
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Speaker 2: in the world. So shocking was this discovery that when
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Speaker 2: John Messenger released his book, he had renamed the island
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Speaker 2: so as to not embarrass the people and ensure their
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Speaker 2: anonymity and their privacy. He renamed it Innish Bug. The
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Speaker 2: island's real name is in Asher, which means easterly Ireland,
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Speaker 2: because it's like the most eastern island, I think, off
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Speaker 2: the coast of Goway, off the coast of Cannamara. That
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Speaker 2: was a fucking atrocious accent.
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Speaker 1: I've lived in Ireland most of my life and I
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Speaker 1: cannot do an Irish accent.
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Speaker 2: Maybe like a culture donegal farmer person, because that's kind
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Speaker 2: of how my accent swings sometimes. I just cann't naturally
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Speaker 2: fall into that sort of vein. But yeah, so they
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Speaker 2: wanted to protect the island's privacy so much so that
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Speaker 2: in the book it included a detailed history, directions, local landmarks,
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Speaker 2: and also a fucking map, a map of the island.
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Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, no one's gonna know what it is
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Speaker 2: when we give them directions and fucking longitude and latitude.
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Speaker 2: What why give them a punonym at all? What was
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Speaker 2: the fucking point of it?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Look, we care about people, We're protecting their identities.
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Speaker 1: This is where they fucking life of.
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Speaker 2: What oh, in a way the audacity of men.
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Speaker 3: Why are you complaining about him and not complaining about
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Speaker 3: Betty because his name's on the fucking book, not herts.
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Speaker 3: You know what, he wants to put his name on
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Speaker 3: the book. He gets the brunt of my aggression.
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Speaker 2: That's how it works. The people who called this island
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Speaker 2: home were descended from those who had escaped Cromwellian I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna call it dictatorship because he was an absolute candlestick.
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Speaker 2: So they fled British persecution and escaped to this fucking
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Speaker 2: island practically cut off from the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: You know what, some of you have probably seen in
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Speaker 2: a share but not realized you've seen in a share
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Speaker 2: because if you've seen the opening credits of Father Ted,
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Speaker 2: there's like an old steamer that's like shipwrecked or washed
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Speaker 2: up on the shore of an island that's in a share.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, on this island, the messengers soon discovered that
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Speaker 2: sex education was non existent. It it didn't exist. But
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Speaker 2: this is nineteen sixties Ireland, so with the best of times,
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Speaker 2: there isn't any sex education. Like everything is ruled by
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Speaker 2: the church. It's just how it was, you know, because sex,
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Speaker 2: sexuality and being ashamed of that is one of the
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Speaker 2: most effective ways to make people subscribe to our religion
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Speaker 2: because sex and sexuality and sexual interest, for most people, it's.
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Speaker 1: Very natural and it's it's fun, and.
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Speaker 2: Well, it should be fun, it should be enjoyable, it
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Speaker 2: should be pleasurable. And by making people feel bad about it,
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Speaker 2: you create that split in them and they begun to
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Speaker 2: see or they begin to see, and they begin to
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Speaker 2: see their very nature, their very own ways of being
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Speaker 2: as sinful and dirty and bad and just plain wrong,
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Speaker 2: which then causes them to become more reliant on your religion,
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Speaker 2: your church for their salvation on what is or what
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Speaker 2: it should be inherently natural, typical, and what is a
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Speaker 2: very healthy way to be. It's it's kind of really
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Speaker 2: clever when you think about it, that it's a way
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Speaker 2: of subjugating and controlling people by telling them to go
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Speaker 2: against their innate ways of being. And sidebar, I know
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Speaker 2: I've just sidebarred. But sidebar again is that somebody gave
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Speaker 2: me a two star review because I rambled and now
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you fucking hate this episode, then, wouldn't you?
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Speaker 1: But back to in his year. So because you know, the.
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Speaker 2: Repressive ireland, especially a remote island in the sixties, wasn't
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Speaker 2: exactly the most progressive of areas. That after interviewing all
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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty inhabitants of the island, or I
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Speaker 2: assume three hundred and fifty adult inhabitants of the island,
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Speaker 2: I don't believe they question children about sexual habits because
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Speaker 2: that that'd be fucking creepy, right. Oh, And they discovered
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Speaker 2: out of everybody there, only three mothers had told their
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Speaker 2: daughters what to expect on their wedding night. Young women
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Speaker 2: got married and didn't know what sex was. They didn't
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Speaker 2: know that they were going to have sex. They didn't
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Speaker 2: know to expect sex. They didn't know what sex was,
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Speaker 2: They didn't know about p's going in v's, none of that.
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Speaker 1: Stuff like what And when they were asked why.
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Speaker 2: They didn't feel they need to pass on this information
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Speaker 2: to their daughters, they were told that it.
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Speaker 1: Was better to let nature take its course.
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Speaker 2: Jesus fucking Christ. Women, if something is indeed so natural,
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Speaker 2: fucking tell them, tell them. But it wasn't just sexual
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Speaker 2: intercourse that they had failed to inform them of.
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Speaker 1: They knew nothing.
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Speaker 2: Most young women knew nothing about periods menstruation, so much
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Speaker 2: so that many young women were fucking traumatized by their
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Speaker 2: first period because they just thought they were bleeding. They
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Speaker 2: thought they were hemorrhaging, that something bad was happening to them.
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Speaker 2: They were in pain and blood is coming out of them.
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Speaker 2: They did not know what was going on. So girls
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Speaker 2: and women would get their first period and no one
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Speaker 2: would explain to them what it was because many couldn't
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Speaker 2: explain it, like there was such a shame over the
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Speaker 2: female body and what it does that a lot of
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Speaker 2: women were unintentionally ignorant. They could not explain to their
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Speaker 2: daughters what was happening. They didn't have the information. So
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Speaker 2: when Betty Messenger was there, many of the women were
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Speaker 2: asking her questions regarding menstruation and the physiological the physical processes.
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Speaker 1: That go along with that.
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Speaker 2: Far more interested in having that information about knowing their
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Speaker 2: own bodies than they were interested in talking about sex.
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Speaker 2: Like the majority of the questions asked were to do
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Speaker 2: with the menstrual cycle and everything that pertains to that,
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Speaker 2: as opposed to shagging. But like what they knew about periods,
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Speaker 2: fuck me, they knew even less about the menopause, like
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Speaker 2: Islanders generally believed that the menopause would just make women
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Speaker 2: mentally ill, like they would go cocoa bananas up.
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Speaker 1: In Cloud Cuckoo.
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Speaker 2: And it was pretty common that once women hit menopause,
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Speaker 2: they would just stop, like they would hit their forties
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Speaker 2: and just remove themselves from public life, Like they wouldn't
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Speaker 2: go to any of the church meetings, they wouldn't go
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Speaker 2: and speak to their friends, go to the shops, none
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Speaker 2: of that. Or I'm assuming there was a shop where
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Speaker 2: they would get flour and things, right, like I feel
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Speaker 2: like something. But yeah, they'd start the menaphause and then
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Speaker 2: they would just hide the fuck away, with many and
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Speaker 2: I shit you not, with many of them just confining
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Speaker 2: themselves to bed until they died, like they would just
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Speaker 2: stay hidden away from everybody until they died. Oh oh
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Speaker 2: they died of old age. They didn't just like crawl
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Speaker 2: into a bed and then wait for death.
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Speaker 1: So back to sex.
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Speaker 2: The island elders, they claimed that there was no premarital sex,
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Speaker 2: no extramarital sex, none of that was happening on the island.
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Speaker 2: Everybody was good, and when the messengers started asking around,
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Speaker 2: they discovered that sexual intercourse in the missionary position was
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Speaker 2: like the only thing regarding sex that the islanders knew,
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Speaker 2: the ones that did. No and no other sexual act.
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Speaker 1: Was considered like. They were truly shocked.
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Speaker 2: They were fucking surprised and bewildered and kinfuddled and aghast
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Speaker 2: that anything out with this existed. They had no concept
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Speaker 2: of heavy petting, well, manually masturbating women anyway, male masturbation.
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Speaker 1: They were aware of that.
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Speaker 2: Now heavy petting, oral sex, anal sex, nah, blew their minds.
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Speaker 2: The very concept of this existed. The only sexual acts
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Speaker 2: officially reported on the island were men whanking and heterosexual shagging.
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Speaker 1: In the missionary position.
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Speaker 2: No foreplay, not even a little bit. Sex was always
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Speaker 2: initiated by the husband, like didn't matter. Husband was always
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Speaker 2: the man who initiated sex, and it was always fairly quick.
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Speaker 2: There was again no fore playing, and it was always
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Speaker 2: in the missionary position, under the sheets and still wearing
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Speaker 2: their nightclothes. I mean this is the time where people
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Speaker 2: were wearing they were still wearing night shirts, so it
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Speaker 2: would have been a week guinea, as I would call it,
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Speaker 2: a wee guinea, a wee nightgown. Think Ebony's all screwed
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Speaker 2: in a Christmas Carol when he comes out in his
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Speaker 2: week caps on and he's gets his week guney on.
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Speaker 2: Because like, pajamas weren't really a thing until World War Two,
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Speaker 2: when it was seen as unseemly to be running to
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Speaker 2: a shelter in your wee guiney, so pajamas came about.
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Speaker 2: So this is pre pajamas. So they were still in
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Speaker 2: their nightclothes, like they were still dressed having sex. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm like anybody's yum, but.
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Speaker 1: They had no yung in this.
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Speaker 2: For women, sex wasn't enjoyable. It wasn't to be enjoyed.
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Speaker 2: It was to be endured. And like today, men had
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Speaker 2: no concept of the female orgasm, and frankly, quite a
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Speaker 2: lot of men nowadays don't seem to be able to
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Speaker 2: grasp that either. But yeah, on in a share, nobody
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Speaker 2: knew what a female orgasm was like, they didn't know
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Speaker 2: what could happen. Like there's this middle aged fella and
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Speaker 2: he is a bachelor. He's the bachelor of the island,
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Speaker 2: and he is known for shagging tourists. So lady tourists
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Speaker 2: would come across the island to look at the lovely
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Speaker 2: inn share and he would woo them with his rugged, country,
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Speaker 2: rural island day ways. And he was a pretty proud
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Speaker 2: of himself. He saw himself as quite the cad and
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Speaker 2: as you know, a casanova of sorts, and he felt
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Speaker 2: that he really was wise in the ways of the world.
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Speaker 2: But he wasn't that wise because he was chatting to
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Speaker 2: John Messenger and he asked him, this weird thing happened
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Speaker 2: to this woman when we were having sex, Like she
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Speaker 2: had these violent bodily convulsions, and she was making strange
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Speaker 2: noises and messengers like.
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Speaker 1: She had an orgasm.
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Speaker 2: And this fella was absolutely fucking shocked because he had
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Speaker 2: absolutely zero clue that women could also climax. He didn't
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Speaker 2: know that was a thing, and he was incredibly surprised
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Speaker 2: to find that out. But it wasn't just people who
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Speaker 2: were incredibly repressed on this island. They conditioned their animals
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Speaker 2: into it too, Like if a dog licked itself, you know,
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Speaker 2: as they do they're always looking at their goolies. Whenever
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Speaker 2: they did that, they would get beaten, like people would
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Speaker 2: beat their dogs for licking their bits. Now they were cleaning.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it a cleaning thing? I feel like it's a
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Speaker 2: cleaning thing. Jesus Christ. What would they do if they
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Speaker 2: saw a cat? Can you imagine them like trying to
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Speaker 2: deal with a cat licking its entire body. They'd freak
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Speaker 2: the fuck out because it wasn't just like sexuality and
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Speaker 2: stuff like that that bothered them. They were also really
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Speaker 2: freaked out by being in the nip, Like being naked
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Speaker 2: wasn't an option. They were like Tobias Fumeke, like fun
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Speaker 2: Ke pun Key fume Ke him, you know him, and
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Speaker 2: he is a never knude. And they were, you know,
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Speaker 2: the living embodiment all of this this thing. So the
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Speaker 2: only people that ever got naked were babies and infants.
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Speaker 2: So they would be bathed once a week in the
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Speaker 2: absolute lip. And I'm not sure at what point they
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Speaker 2: would stop being.
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Speaker 1: Bathed in, you know, naked.
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Speaker 2: I think it would be once they're big enough to
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Speaker 2: wash themselves. I feel like that will be it.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: So children, adults, the elderly, they would wash their hands
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Speaker 2: in their faces, which is good, you want to have
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Speaker 2: clean hands. They would wash their necks, their feet, and
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Speaker 2: their lower legs, like they wouldn't wash the thighs. They
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Speaker 2: wouldn't wash the tummy, the bomb, the chest. How did
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Speaker 2: they wipe their arses? Did they just like never wipe
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Speaker 2: because that feels like, I mean, everybody.
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Speaker 1: Had to peece it down. They had to.
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Speaker 2: I feel like they would try and avoid touching as
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Speaker 2: much as possible, So everybody had to pee sitting.
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Speaker 1: Down right right.
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Speaker 2: So because they were so I don't know, terrified of
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Speaker 2: being naked. A lot of the times when they were
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Speaker 2: getting dressed out of their NightWare into their dayware, they
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Speaker 2: would do it like under the sheets, like.
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Speaker 1: In the bed.
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Speaker 2: They would get changed so that they could not be
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Speaker 2: seen like by their like siblings, like husbands, wives, all
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Speaker 2: of it. Like they would just they would just do that. Now,
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Speaker 2: some women on the island did They did say that
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Speaker 2: they had bathed in the rock pills off the island,
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Speaker 2: and for a hot minute, the messengers thought these women
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Speaker 2: might be, you know, the rule breakers. They might be
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Speaker 2: going against the grain. Were they skinny dipping?
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Speaker 1: They were not.
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Speaker 2: They were wading up to their ankles stealthily dressed. They
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Speaker 2: were in the water up to ankles, clothes on, and
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Speaker 2: all alone.
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Speaker 1: Like they did it.
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Speaker 2: They were isolated, you know, they didn't do it near
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Speaker 2: anybody else in case anybody saw their ankles, I guess,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. It wasn't what they were expecting
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Speaker 2: at all. It was wild speaking of being in the water,
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Speaker 2: because they were never nudes. Effectively, they wouldn't take off
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Speaker 2: their clothes to learn to swim. Now. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you've ever been or loved on an island, but
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Speaker 2: it is recommended that when you live near large bodies
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Speaker 2: of water that you should probably learn to you know,
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Speaker 2: not die in it, just as a precaution. At least
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Speaker 2: learned to fucking float. But yeah, no one on this
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Speaker 2: island could swim, not even the fishermen. So at this
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Speaker 2: point the main sort of the mainstay of the island
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Speaker 2: was crafting and fishing and farming like it was very
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Speaker 2: very traditional, and the fishermen couldn't fucking swim, so the
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Speaker 2: anything happened to them, anything happened to their boats, they
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Speaker 2: were fucked effectively, they were going down like a sacus buds.
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Speaker 2: But the fishermen told the couple that they didn't need
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Speaker 2: to learn to swim because they were such good fishermen,
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Speaker 2: like they were on their boats like nobody's business, so
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Speaker 2: they never actually needed to learn because it was never
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Speaker 2: going to be a problem. But another issue that comes
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Speaker 2: with never allowing yourself to be naked or have someone
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Speaker 2: view your body, that when they were ill or there
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Speaker 2: was an issue or a problem, they weren't able to
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Speaker 2: check it and get it cured or remedied within you know,
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Speaker 2: a workable timeframe.
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Speaker 1: Like there was this nurse that used to come.
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Speaker 2: Over from like Mainland Island and would come to the
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Speaker 2: island to you know, just check people out, treat them,
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Speaker 2: do all the necessary medical stuff. And she couldn't do
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Speaker 2: her job because people would not want her.
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Speaker 1: To examine them.
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Speaker 2: They didn't want to have to take off their clothes,
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Speaker 2: they didn't want to be physically examined. And that by
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Speaker 2: the time they actually went to her, when it was
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Speaker 2: so bad that they were desperate for treatment, when they
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Speaker 2: were willing to forego everything that had been conditioned in
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Speaker 2: them and allow her to examine them, it was too late.
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Speaker 2: Like the stuff, the condition, the illness had progressed to
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Speaker 2: a point where nothing could really be done. The chokehold
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Speaker 2: that Christianity and the Catholic Church had on this population.
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Speaker 2: It created stigma and trauma and isolation and mendal an
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Speaker 2: emotional damage, physical damage. People died because they couldn't get
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Speaker 2: the treatment they needed because they were too worried. Their
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Speaker 2: hygiene levels must have been awful, like again the whole
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Speaker 2: not being able to wipe thing. It's not good. Women
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Speaker 2: wouldn't know a p after sex. They probably got UTIs
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Speaker 2: all the fucking.
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Speaker 1: Time, like they didn't know anything.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of it stems from the fact that
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Speaker 2: this community was so insular, like it didn't have a key,
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Speaker 2: the ferry couldn't come in, so it was very much
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Speaker 2: cut off from the majority of like the mainland of
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Speaker 2: the world. Like if you wanted to visit the island
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Speaker 2: during this time, your ship had to anchor off the
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Speaker 2: coast and then canoes would take you from your ship
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Speaker 2: to the island. But then when the Fairy Link started,
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Speaker 2: the island was no longer isolated. They had radios and television,
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Speaker 2: and I think it was nineteen ninety seven that the
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Speaker 2: full island had electricity, Like it wasn't all over, it
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Speaker 2: was only bits of it that had at first, and
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Speaker 2: the island changed with the times, like it's no longer
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Speaker 2: like a sexually repressed, you know area, but it's still
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Speaker 2: very much champions like traditional Irish culture and heritage. It's
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Speaker 2: a big tourist spot for crackougs, cull and all of
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Speaker 2: the fun stuff that comes with traditional Irishness. Like I
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Speaker 2: think they still have one of the oldest forms of
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Speaker 2: Irish I think is there. I think they still speak
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Speaker 2: Old Irish there. That's actually something my papa called it,
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Speaker 2: Like the Irish that I learned growing up was he
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Speaker 2: would call it old Irish, like the Ulster dialect, and
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Speaker 2: he would refer to anything out with that as book Irish,
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Speaker 2: because I think the books are all like printed in
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Speaker 2: like kerry or cork, and he'd be like, ash, sure
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Speaker 2: that's that book Irish exastin exhast, it's egg Imrish. But yes,
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Speaker 2: that is the story of Ennishbug or Nish Year, the
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Speaker 2: island that despised doing it. If you liked my retelling
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Speaker 2: of this weird piece of Irish history, feel free to
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Speaker 2: wait Interview five style. You can follow me on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram,
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Speaker 2: and Facebook, and I do have a YouTube, but there
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Speaker 2: is nothing on it yet. I am hooded what now
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Speaker 2: pod everywhere apart from Twitter, where I am hooded what nowped.
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Speaker 2: Links are in the description down below. You may also
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Speaker 2: find my personal Twitter under History, Harlot, so.
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Speaker 1: I'm there too.
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Speaker 2: Tweet me, I'll respond and yeah, I think that's it
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Speaker 2: for to day. And with that I shall bid you
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Speaker 2: good night. Adios au Revoir of What is em my friends,
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Speaker 2: Bye bye,