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Clydesdale Media Podcast - Sandy Fent & Debbie Wagner with 9/11 Climb. · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  I was born to kill it.
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  I was meant to win.
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  I am down and willing,
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  so I will find a way.
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  It took a minute,
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  now it didn't have to ride away.
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  When it get hot in the kitchen,
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  you decide to stay.
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  That's how it win us, man.
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  Stick a fork in the hay to
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to an early edition
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  of Lunch with the Clydesdale
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  My name is Scott.
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  I'm the Clydesdale.
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  And we are early today
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  because we have a couple
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  special guests with us.
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  And that is we have Sandy Fent,
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  who is here with public
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  safety with the state of Ohio.
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  And just I'm a state employee as well.
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  My title is super long.
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  I don't even remember what it is.
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  Mine's long as well.
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  Right.
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  I think that is tradition with the state.
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  You are the first responder
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  physical wellness administrator.
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  That's correct.
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  And then we have Debbie
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  Wagner with expanding horizons.
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  And I think this Debbie and I were talking,
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  I think this is our fourth
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  time on the show.
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  I usually she's here with
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  Matt shingle Decker,
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  but she has kicked him out
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  for the day and she's riding solo.
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  That's right.
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  And I don't know my job title.
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  Yeah.
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  Does it even matter these days?
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  You do what you're told to do.
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  And at the end of the day,
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  you hopefully get a paycheck.
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  That's right.
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  So,
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  We had you guys on last year
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  for the nine-eleven climb.
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  I think we had you on the year before.
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  And so this is the third year.
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  Yes, it is.
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  And Sandy with being the first responder,
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  physical wellness administrator,
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  what does this event mean to you?
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  So this is our signature
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  event and director Wilson is,
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  has instructed me that I
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  need a thousand people at
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  this event to keep my job.
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  So we know he's sort of,
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  at least I hope he's joking,
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  but this is our signature event.
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  And this is what we work all
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  year long for to bring this
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  event because it's so
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  important to all of us here at DPS.
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  So from my understanding,
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  this event does two things.
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  It pays tribute to those
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  first responders who lost
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  their lives in nine eleven.
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  Yes.
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  And that number is four
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  hundred and twelve first responders.
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  And that number is very
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  important to this day.
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  Yes, it is.
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  The other thing that this is
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  important is to make aware
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  the importance of physical
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  fitness and moving for
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  first responders to stay in
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  shape and be able to do
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  their jobs at the best of their ability.
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  Correct.
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  So let's talk about the
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  honoring of the first
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  responders from nine eleven.
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  So we honor them by doing a workout.
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  Yes.
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  So that workout is forty one
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  minutes and twenty seconds long.
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  It is we have four different options,
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  so anyone can be included.
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  And what we're looking for
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  is any first responder,
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  their families and or
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  friends to come to the
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  historic cruise stadium.
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  And you have choices of yoga.
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  You can climb stairs.
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  You can do just the walking
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  path that we have.
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  And then also we have a CrossFit workout,
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  which consists of a hundred stairs,
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  twenty burpees,
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  thirty sit ups and forty
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  lunges or air squats.
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  And that is for forty one
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  minutes and twenty seconds.
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  So it's an AMRAP.
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  And I've pulled that up on the screen.
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  what, what I've, what I love about this is,
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  um, I know Debbie, I know Matt, I know me,
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  we are CrossFit junkies, right?
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  But sometimes that can be
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  intimidating for people on the outside.
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  And really what this is
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  about is getting you there
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  and doing some kind of
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  movement for that time
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  period of forty one minutes
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  and twenty seconds.
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  Yes.
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  We just want people to move
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  and whether that, you know,
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  not everyone does CrossFit.
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  Um,
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  Not everyone is capable of
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  doing the stairs.
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  Maybe they have a knee issue
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  or something like that.
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  So we do have other options
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  so that we can include as
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  many people as possible.
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  So that's why we have the walking option.
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  We also have the yoga option.
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  And you use the entire stadium for that?
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  Yes, we are spread everywhere.
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  Now, I've done a walk at the stadium.
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  Do you do the walk around the top?
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  Yes.
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  So the walk is around the top.
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  The yoga is in the, I believe,
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  southeast corner, kind of in the shade.
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  So that's probably the could
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  be the best place to be.
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  And then the rest of us are out,
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  whether you're doing the
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  stair climb or the CrossFit workout,
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  you're out on the field.
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  So we actually do most of it
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  on the field and we use the stairs,
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  obviously, for the stair climb.
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  Yeah,
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  and for people who aren't from Columbus,
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  we have two soccer stadiums.
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  The soccer team here is named The Crew,
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  and so we say Crew Stadium.
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  Sandy,
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  it was very important to say the classic.
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  The historic.
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  The historic Crew Stadium.
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  It was the first stadium for
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  the Columbus Crew,
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  and it's now used for
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  events and concerts and all
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  of those types of things.
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  But we have a new stadium downtown.
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  and this one is the one out
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  by the fairgrounds right
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  off of seventy one that's
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  great off seventeenth
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  avenue seventieth avenue so
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  you can go there to hang
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  out with these people or if
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  you are unavailable to make
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  that trip you can always do
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  this in your own home in
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  your own gym and just do
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  that movement for forty one
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  minutes and twenty seconds
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  and then you can
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  post that, tag it,
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  and show that you are
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  supporting this effort on
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  your social media?
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  Yes.
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  So I know at the gym that I attend and own,
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  we are doing that as our
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  workout of the day.
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  So we will have on Thursday, we have two,
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  three, five classes that day,
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  and that will be the
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  workout of the day for the entire day.
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  And then we'll send pictures
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  in attaching each class to the hashtag,
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  which is ODPS climb for our
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  social media tags on that.
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  So ODPS climb is your hashtag.
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  Yes.
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  And you slipped in there
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  that you own a gym.
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  Yes.
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  What gym do you own?
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  I own a BB fitness nine three seven.
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  It's in Springfield.
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  And it's a B or BB Metfix
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  would be the other name.
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  Yeah.
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  So you're a MedFix gym?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  We've been only open just over a year.
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  Okay.
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  And you do functional
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  fitness type classes?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  So you are doing the long
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  workout with the lunges and
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  the burpees and all of that?
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  That's correct.
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  Okay, cool.
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  How's it been being a gym
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  owner for a year?
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  Honestly,
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  I've had much more success than I
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  thought I would have.
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  And I have a great community
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  of gym members and clients
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  that come in and they're quite fantastic.
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  That's cool.
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  Very supportive.
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  How does that,
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  do you have other family
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  members that take part of
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  the day as you're working your day job?
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  I have other coaches that I, yeah, my,
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  I have a thirty three year old son.
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  And he is a non-active
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  participant and neither is my husband.
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  So they joke that the only
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  time they're at the gym is
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  if something's broken.
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  But they all claim they have a key.
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  But no, they're very supportive.
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  My community is very supportive.
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  Anytime I bring anything like this or,
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  you know,
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  if we do MRF and that type of thing,
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  they all show up in droves.
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  My family's supportive.
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  So it's great.
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  We have about fifty,
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  fifty members right now.
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  Is the goal for next year
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  when this comes around that
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  your son and husband are
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  active participants?
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  That would be great.
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  My husband refuses to come
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  at my five and six a.m.
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  classes, so.
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  Isaac went like, well,
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  we have afternoon classes as well.
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  So he's like, well,
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  I get him out walking and
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  he does lunges in our dining room.
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  So as long as he's moving, we're good.
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  Yeah.
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  You might have trouble
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  getting me at a five and six as well.
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  Just saying.
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  It's not for all of us, I should say.
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  No, no, no, no, no.
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  It's a special breed of
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  people that show up at five and six a.m.
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  Well,
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  and what's crazy when I was at
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  CrossFit Polaris,
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  like you had to be like the,
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  the class would release at eight.
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  And if you didn't get your
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  name in by eight Oh one,
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  you didn't get in those classes.
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  That's wow.
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  So not only is it a special breed,
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  there's a lot of them.
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  Yes.
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  Those are my largest classes.
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  Yeah.
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  That's crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  Crazy.
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  I always say that we like to
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  get moving before our
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  brains start working.
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  I used to do five AM.
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  I really did.
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  And you're right.
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  I'm not even awake until eight.
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  So did I work out this morning?
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  I think I did.
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  I think I was there.
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  So you are in,
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  your job is about physical
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  wellness for first
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  responders here in Ohio.
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  Yes.
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  Why, why that job?
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  So how I,
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  kind of got involved with it.
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  I am a retired Springfield
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  police detective.
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  I worked twenty eight years
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  in law enforcement.
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  I had three and a half years
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  with Greene County
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  Sheriff's Office in Xenia
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  before I came to Springfield.
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  And in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
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  Long story short,
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  we started a critical
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  incident stress management
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  team and I had that until I retired.
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  So with
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  That background,
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  along with my CrossFit
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  level two credentials and
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  things like that,
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  this position became available.
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  I applied for it.
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  And at that point, here I am.
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  So, yeah.
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  So the good thing about it is trying to
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  educate people,
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  promoting physical fitness for police,
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  fire, EMS, corrections, communications.
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  Did I say EMS?
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  And just trying to get people moving.
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  That's the key.
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  I've actually had some firemen on.
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  I've had some police officers on.
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  And these are people who've
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  made the CrossFit Games.
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  And they say...
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  What's difficult for them is
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  working side by side with
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  people who have let their fitness go,
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  right?
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  When they had the first
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  become a firefighter or a police officer,
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  there were certain measures
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  they had to make to get in.
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  But then once they're in,
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  there's no test or
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  requirement to stay in.
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  Are those things that you're
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  noticing here in Ohio?
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  Yes.
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  So I also was an instructor
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  at the Clark State Police Academy.
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  So I would get the recruits
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  when they would first
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  getting them through the academy.
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  And obviously our objective
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  and goal is to get them to
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  pass the state test.
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  And it's at that point that
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  you have the most
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  availability to them and
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  try to influence them about
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  staying fit and different reasons why.
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  I would often show them
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  videos of um there happens
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  to be one trooper um this
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  was several years ago who
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  um within six I believe it
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  was within six weeks um he
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  got into a fight alone on
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  seventy one um or south
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  south of seventy one and um
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  ended up having to take
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  this man's life and he was
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  in the fight for his life
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  and everything was recorded
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  because it happened right
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  between the cars
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  And had he not been in the
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  physical shape that he was
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  in just out of the academy, he would have,
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  we would have had a police
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  funeral for that.
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  So just giving them examples
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  and explaining that, you know,
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  we're not trying to just get you to pass,
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  but you need to continue
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  this because your life will depend on it.
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  We often during our workouts, well, okay,
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  now I need you to sprint to
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  the top of this hill and
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  start doing pushups.
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  basically to simulate doing
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  compressions on your
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  partner that was just shot.
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  So we just incorporate
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  different scenarios as we
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  go along so that we could
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  keep that in their mind.
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  So even if all you're doing is walking,
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  that walking is very valuable as well.
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  So you are truly preparing
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  for the unknown and the unknowable.
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  Absolutely.
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  And you're trying to
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  simulate instances where
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  those could arise at any
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  time during the shift.
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  So they get out of the academy.
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  What is available to these
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  first responders at their firehouse,
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  at their police station to
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  help them stay fit?
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  I can only speak for
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  Springfield specifically,
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  but I do know that a lot of
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  the firehouses have a workout area.
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  Springfield happens to be
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  building some new facilities,
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  firehouses in Springfield.
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  And so they do have gyms
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  that are also included in that.
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  I know at the Springfield Police Division,
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  we have a whole gym area.
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  So that is all free to them.
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  It's up to them if they want
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  to work out there.
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  They didn't quite have the
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  equipment that I liked.
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  And so that's why I had
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  joined a CrossFit gym.
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  And so, I mean,
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  there's so many gyms in Springfield,
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  Planet Fitness for all different
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  ranges of what you're available to afford.
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  So, you know,
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  it doesn't matter what gym you belong to,
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  as long as you're doing something.
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  We would prefer group
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  workouts because it also
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  incorporates the
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  camaraderie and the
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  community that personally
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  CrossFit brings.
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  So all of that is good.
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  That's what we're looking for.
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  Just move.
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  And the beauty of most
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  CrossFit gyms is they offer
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  first responder or military
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  discounts for those people
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  who are doing those types of jobs.
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  I want to bring Debbie into
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  the discussion here.
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  Expanding Horizons has done
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  a lot about how physical
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  fitness changes your
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  mindset and the mental
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  aspect of what you do.
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  And it started with like
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  juveniles that are in a
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  detention center trying to
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  get them to not be sent
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  back to that when they get out.
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  But you often have the
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  officers working out with them.
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  Have you noticed a change in their mindset,
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  the officers themselves,
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  when they're working out
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  with the people in these classes?
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  Oh, a hundred percent.
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  And actually at Sandy's gym,
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  they host one of our
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  expanding horizons groups.
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  So they have their probation
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  kids and probation officers
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  come in to the gym and work
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  out several days a week.
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  And it is, she's exactly right.
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  When we're trying to bring
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  back that sense of community,
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  both in the expanding
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  horizons program with the kids,
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  but also in the first responder world,
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  because we know both situations,
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  both parties,
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  the kids and the first
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  responders feel completely
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  isolated most of the time.
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  whether they're just feeling
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  alone because they can't
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  relate to anybody at home
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  or at school or feeling
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  like an outcast as a youth,
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  or you're a first responder
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  riding in the car alone,
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  or you're chasing after
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  somebody alone and you
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  don't have that teammate.
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  So what we're trying to do
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  is bring that community,
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  that sense of community back
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  with fitness,
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  which is why we love the climb.
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  We need to add in there that
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  you are able to partner this.
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  Yes.
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  So if forty one minutes of
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  twenty seconds of that
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  movement sounds like a lot
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  like at the crew stadium,
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  most of our people will be
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  partnering this for several reasons,
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  bringing community back.
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  supporting our first responders.
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  We know that suicide is one
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  of the leading causes of
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  death for first responders.
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  And so we, as community members,
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  friends and family members,
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  maybe even friends and
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  family members at a
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  distance to a first responder.
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  I might not be close to any
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  of my first responders in my community,
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  but I support what they do.
• 17:50
  And so one of the ways I can
• 17:51
  support what they do is
• 17:52
  show up to this event,
• 17:54
  whether I'm coming to the
• 17:54
  Historic Crew Stadium or
• 17:56
  whether I'm contacting our
• 17:58
  local high school and saying, hey,
• 17:59
  Let's go do this with our
• 18:00
  first responders to show
• 18:02
  them that support,
• 18:03
  bringing that sense of community back.
• 18:07
  I know in the past you've
• 18:08
  emailed like every CrossFit
• 18:10
  gym in the state of Ohio to
• 18:12
  get them to partake.
• 18:14
  Did you do that again this year?
• 18:16
  I did.
• 18:18
  I'm trying to take some
• 18:19
  things off Debbie's shoulder.
• 18:20
  She's a busy woman.
• 18:21
  But yes, I did.
• 18:24
  What has the response been like?
• 18:26
  I would have to ask Anna or...
• 18:30
  assistant that we have here.
• 18:32
  But we do have over two
• 18:33
  hundred twenty people that
• 18:34
  have registered and we
• 18:36
  believe one hundred and
• 18:37
  basically one hundred ninety are on site.
• 18:40
  So even if you are doing it at your gym,
• 18:43
  whether it's in Iowa or
• 18:46
  Michigan or I'm sorry,
• 18:48
  Michigan or anywhere else like that,
• 18:52
  sorry, we we still want you to register.
• 18:56
  Just so we can kind of keep track of that.
• 18:58
  So wherever you're at,
• 18:59
  we would like everyone to
• 19:02
  register regardless of
• 19:03
  where you're doing that at.
• 19:05
  Did you see an increase in
• 19:06
  numbers from year one to year two?
• 19:08
  Yes.
• 19:09
  Every year it has grown.
• 19:11
  We have already registered
• 19:13
  over twice of what we had last year.
• 19:18
  So at this point,
• 19:20
  so they need a ton of
• 19:22
  credit because they
• 19:23
  literally have worked
• 19:23
  diligently all year on this.
• 19:26
  So not only has Sandy
• 19:28
  emailed every CrossFit that
• 19:30
  we have email addresses for.
• 19:32
  So if we missed someone, we apologize.
• 19:34
  We're not the best detectives at this,
• 19:36
  but they also have emailed
• 19:38
  every first responder
• 19:39
  office in the state.
• 19:42
  And every time,
• 19:43
  Andy, Director Wilson goes out and visits.
• 19:45
  He talks about this to every
• 19:46
  first responder office,
• 19:47
  and they have tracked that
• 19:49
  in their office and gone
• 19:50
  back to follow it up.
• 19:53
  It's up to us as affiliate
• 19:56
  owners or a police chief or
• 19:58
  a fire chief to spread that word.
• 20:02
  I know that I don't probably
• 20:04
  read every email that I get.
• 20:07
  And same thing with Matt.
• 20:08
  He doesn't read every email
• 20:09
  he gets as an affiliate owner.
• 20:10
  So it is,
• 20:11
  it's imperative that we as
• 20:13
  affiliate owners take time
• 20:14
  to read this and then challenging myself.
• 20:17
  I just had a call this
• 20:18
  morning to take that flyer
• 20:22
  and print it and then walk
• 20:26
  it into the local police department,
• 20:27
  walk it into the local fire
• 20:29
  department and invite those
• 20:30
  people personally to come
• 20:32
  into the gym to participate.
• 20:36
  That's awesome.
• 20:41
  I look at you guys as people
• 20:42
  who are like salmon,
• 20:43
  you're swimming upstream
• 20:44
  against our current culture
• 20:48
  kind of looks at is what's needed today,
• 20:53
  right?
• 20:54
  And to have political
• 20:56
  backing on this program is
• 20:58
  pretty freaking phenomenal.
• 21:01
  So
• 21:03
  how do you not get
• 21:04
  discouraged when you're
• 21:06
  battling culture's way of
• 21:10
  looking at fitness these days?
• 21:13
  Or do you just surround
• 21:14
  yourself with people that don't let you?
• 21:19
  Oh boy.
• 21:21
  You can only do what you can
• 21:22
  do and you can, for lack of a better term,
• 21:25
  you can lead a horse to water.
• 21:28
  but you can't make them drink.
• 21:30
  So you just keep pushing,
• 21:32
  keep trying to be that positive influence,
• 21:34
  surround yourself with
• 21:35
  people that want to be where you're at.
• 21:44
  And all we can do is keep pushing,
• 21:46
  keep getting the word out
• 21:48
  and trying to get people, you know,
• 21:51
  they have to care themselves.
• 21:54
  And celebrate the wins.
• 21:55
  A lot of times we get
• 21:57
  focusing on the losses when
• 21:58
  really we should just be
• 22:00
  focusing on celebrating the wins,
• 22:02
  however it comes.
• 22:03
  And it's going to come in
• 22:04
  the most unique ways.
• 22:05
  I was telling the story the other day.
• 22:07
  I was talking to a gym and said, hey,
• 22:08
  have you heard of the nine eleven climb?
• 22:10
  And they were like, actually, yeah, we do.
• 22:12
  We just heard of it because
• 22:13
  now Sandy has told me we
• 22:15
  had a SWAT team member who
• 22:17
  competed in June at a
• 22:20
  competition that we had at
• 22:21
  one of our juvenile
• 22:21
  correctional facilities.
• 22:23
  So he came in and he
• 22:23
  partnered with two youth at
• 22:25
  the competition that we had.
• 22:27
  And in his words,
• 22:29
  when he finished that competition,
• 22:32
  he felt wrecked.
• 22:35
  Left the facility,
• 22:36
  called and joined a gym
• 22:38
  because he realized that
• 22:40
  there was a need.
• 22:41
  I'm going to guess just like
• 22:43
  every first responder,
• 22:44
  he has heard the importance
• 22:46
  of physical health.
• 22:48
  But until he had in that
• 22:50
  situation that day,
• 22:52
  face the competitive level,
• 22:55
  not the pursuance like chasing a criminal,
• 22:58
  but trying to partner with
• 22:59
  these youth and be a good
• 23:01
  example for them.
• 23:02
  That was the wake up call that he needed.
• 23:06
  And it not only inspired him
• 23:08
  then to be better,
• 23:09
  he also had conversations
• 23:11
  with these youth who were
• 23:12
  incarcerated about how do
• 23:15
  these youth get to be where he's at.
• 23:17
  Right.
• 23:18
  So that that community of
• 23:19
  the fitness then
• 23:21
  organically transforms
• 23:22
  everyone who is involved.
• 23:25
  And to kind of give you a
• 23:26
  little bit of background about myself.
• 23:28
  So I I was a runner my
• 23:30
  entire life and never,
• 23:33
  ever lifted weights,
• 23:34
  never did anything like that.
• 23:35
  Tried CrossFit and probably
• 23:36
  twenty twelve went to a gym
• 23:39
  that didn't tell me to scale.
• 23:41
  And even though I was
• 23:42
  physically able to lift
• 23:44
  whatever weight it was, I was wrecked.
• 23:46
  I was done.
• 23:47
  So I was like,
• 23:47
  this isn't fun when I can't move.
• 23:50
  It's not fun.
• 23:51
  So then fast forward,
• 23:53
  I'd been training for some triathlons, um,
• 23:57
  was encouraged, you know,
• 23:58
  to try CrossFit again, give it a chance,
• 24:00
  but scale everything.
• 24:02
  Um, so, um,
• 24:04
  that I will do that after I
• 24:06
  finished my race, I had been training for,
• 24:08
  um, an Ironman.
• 24:10
  So I finished the Ironman in
• 24:12
  two weeks later, I joined a CrossFit gym.
• 24:15
  And from there I thought, oh,
• 24:16
  I'm in shape.
• 24:17
  You know,
• 24:17
  I just swam two point four miles
• 24:20
  and biked one hundred and twelve and then,
• 24:22
  you know, ran a full marathon.
• 24:23
  I'm in shape.
• 24:25
  I was not.
• 24:26
  CrossFit's a whole breed of itself.
• 24:29
  And so I can understand where he came from,
• 24:33
  where he thinks that he's
• 24:35
  physically healthy and in good shape.
• 24:39
  But in reality, you're not.
• 24:41
  Right.
• 24:42
  So.
• 24:43
  It's funny because I saw the
• 24:44
  video played of that
• 24:47
  competition on Savan on Monday.
• 24:50
  And I thought you guys had a
• 24:52
  great discussion around that.
• 24:54
  But one thing that popped
• 24:55
  into my head is what a way
• 24:58
  as a first responder to
• 25:00
  realize how fit the people
• 25:03
  are that you're going to
• 25:04
  have to chase after than to
• 25:06
  partner with them at a
• 25:07
  competition and see what
• 25:09
  they can do during the
• 25:10
  competition in comparison to you.
• 25:14
  like what a wake up call and
• 25:16
  an eye opener that could be.
• 25:17
  Right.
• 25:21
  So, um, at the police Academy, uh,
• 25:23
  we get part of the class is, um,
• 25:26
  everything's based off the
• 25:27
  Cooper Cooper standards.
• 25:29
  So the average police officer, um,
• 25:32
  when they get out of the Academy,
• 25:34
  not out of the Academy,
• 25:35
  the average police officer
• 25:36
  is thirty Cooper standards,
• 25:38
  about thirty five percent,
• 25:41
  which is crazy.
• 25:42
  Um,
• 25:43
  the average inmate when they
• 25:44
  get out of prison is at fifty percent.
• 25:47
  So they're already more
• 25:49
  physically fit by the
• 25:52
  studies than the officers
• 25:54
  when they get out.
• 25:55
  So that's how the training
• 25:57
  has changed over the years from, you know,
• 26:02
  possibly moving to the you know,
• 26:04
  everyone's involved in MMA
• 26:05
  and all that stuff as well.
• 26:07
  So the ground fighting
• 26:07
  techniques have all been
• 26:09
  everything's being changed.
• 26:11
  at the basic level to
• 26:18
  anticipate the changes
• 26:20
  around society as well.
• 26:24
  And just before I forget,
• 26:27
  we did invite the CrossFit gyms,
• 26:30
  but we also invited all of
• 26:34
  the police academies around
• 26:35
  the state as well,
• 26:37
  hoping to get them
• 26:39
  motivated to do this as well.
• 26:43
  Awesome.
• 26:43
  One of the reasons I asked
• 26:44
  you what was available to
• 26:46
  the first responders in
• 26:47
  their stations and such is
• 26:51
  I'm sure stuff is available
• 26:52
  for the prisoners in the jails.
• 26:55
  And are we adequately
• 26:59
  supplying our first
• 27:00
  responders with the same
• 27:01
  amount of equipment that
• 27:03
  we're supplying our
• 27:05
  detention centers and jails with?
• 27:08
  Oh, you're slippery slope here.
• 27:12
  I would say the answer is no.
• 27:15
  No, we are not.
• 27:16
  Wow.
• 27:18
  I think that is, yeah.
• 27:21
  Wow.
• 27:23
  The vast majority of
• 27:24
  agencies have under fifty officers.
• 27:28
  So your Columbus's, your Cleveland's,
• 27:31
  your Cincinnati's,
• 27:32
  those all probably have a
• 27:35
  significant gym network.
• 27:37
  Toledo.
• 27:39
  Springfield,
• 27:40
  we have one hundred and thirty
• 27:42
  officers or thirty five
• 27:43
  officers that we're supposed to have.
• 27:44
  And we have a gym.
• 27:46
  But that gym was put
• 27:47
  together by donations and
• 27:49
  officers for years.
• 27:52
  And just within the last five years,
• 27:53
  I know the city of
• 27:54
  Springfield bought some
• 27:57
  items for that gym, which,
• 27:59
  to my knowledge,
• 28:00
  they never have done before.
• 28:01
  So I know they I believe
• 28:02
  they bought a treadmill and
• 28:04
  some different things.
• 28:04
  So but there's also a gym at
• 28:07
  City Hall that you can work out at.
• 28:09
  that we're all privy to.
• 28:11
  So, I mean,
• 28:12
  it's every everybody's different,
• 28:14
  but I would say the vast majority, um,
• 28:17
  they depend on memberships at gyms.
• 28:21
  So the next difficult
• 28:22
  question is as a state employee,
• 28:25
  one of the,
• 28:26
  one of the frustrations that I
• 28:28
  find is my boss could
• 28:31
  change every four years.
• 28:33
  Yes.
• 28:35
  as salmon who are trying to
• 28:37
  swim upstream and do things
• 28:39
  that are new and innovative
• 28:41
  and you get buy-in how hard
• 28:44
  is it with a new
• 28:45
  administration to keep that
• 28:47
  buy-in going are there are
• 28:50
  there this is going to be a
• 28:51
  multi-faceted question are
• 28:53
  you putting things in place
• 28:54
  to the best of your ability
• 28:55
  to make sure that they stay
• 28:57
  in place for the next
• 28:59
  administration or is it
• 29:00
  just roll the dice and hope
• 29:02
  that they buy in
• 29:04
  We are hoping to make
• 29:07
  everything that we do so
• 29:08
  successful they can't turn it down.
• 29:13
  And that is our drive for the next two,
• 29:15
  two and a half years is to
• 29:17
  make it so successful that
• 29:18
  the next administration
• 29:19
  that comes in says, wow,
• 29:22
  that's a great program.
• 29:23
  We need to keep this going.
• 29:24
  Yeah.
• 29:28
  And I think honestly, sorry, Scott,
• 29:30
  as community members,
• 29:31
  that's something we can do
• 29:33
  is make sure that we're
• 29:34
  publicly supporting the
• 29:36
  efforts our first
• 29:36
  responders are making on
• 29:38
  initiatives like this.
• 29:40
  Sandy's office works so hard
• 29:42
  to improve physical and
• 29:43
  mental health of all first responders.
• 29:46
  I'm what,
• 29:46
  two hours away from her in a
• 29:48
  small community,
• 29:48
  but I have an impact in my
• 29:50
  community and I can let my community know
• 29:53
  how important this is and
• 29:54
  how appreciative I am also,
• 29:57
  because even locally,
• 29:59
  our elected officials need
• 30:00
  to be held accountable for
• 30:01
  those kinds of things.
• 30:02
  And if it's something that's
• 30:04
  highly valued in the public eye,
• 30:06
  not just first responders eye,
• 30:07
  but across the board publicly,
• 30:09
  they're gonna be slower to shut it down.
• 30:12
  And one way they can show
• 30:13
  that support is to show up at nine a.m.
• 30:17
  on September eleventh at
• 30:18
  Historic Crew Stadium here
• 30:19
  in Columbus and join in on all the fun.
• 30:22
  Yes.
• 30:23
  And it's one hundred percent free.
• 30:25
  And make sure they register
• 30:26
  so you can count them.
• 30:27
  Yes.
• 30:28
  Yes.
• 30:29
  And you can do it in your
• 30:30
  gyms and you can do it at home.
• 30:32
  But please register as well.
• 30:34
  Yes.
• 30:34
  So that we know you're participating.
• 30:36
  Yes.
• 30:36
  Because what politicians
• 30:38
  love are numbers to show success.
• 30:41
  Absolutely.
• 30:43
  And then they do repost
• 30:44
  anything that you use the hashtag with.
• 30:46
  That's one thing that our
• 30:47
  small town was like, oh my gosh,
• 30:48
  we were on the Department
• 30:49
  of Public Safety social
• 30:50
  media because we use the hashtag.
• 30:52
  So that was a really cool feature.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:57
  And that hashtag again is, Sandy?
• 31:00
  Oh, it is.
• 31:01
  Well, we've got a few,
• 31:02
  but it's hashtag ODPSCLIMB.
• 31:08
  So ODPSCLIMB.
• 31:12
  All one word.
• 31:13
  So the initials for Ohio
• 31:14
  Department of Public Safety.
• 31:16
  And then the word climb, yes.
• 31:19
  ODPS climb.
• 31:20
  Yes.
• 31:22
  Before I let you go, Debbie,
• 31:24
  every time I talk to you,
• 31:25
  you have new things
• 31:27
  happening with Expanding Horizons.
• 31:30
  So where are you guys at
• 31:31
  today and what do you have new happening?
• 31:37
  In thirty seconds or less,
• 31:38
  we currently have an
• 31:41
  uncounted number of
• 31:42
  probation programs around the country.
• 31:45
  We are currently in four
• 31:47
  juvenile correctional
• 31:47
  facilities in the state of Ohio.
• 31:49
  We have two more that we
• 31:51
  hope to have up in the next few months.
• 31:53
  We also go in just over a week, I think,
• 31:59
  to get to present at the
• 32:00
  American Correction
• 32:02
  Association Conference in Denver,
• 32:04
  Colorado.
• 32:06
  So this is our first
• 32:08
  national opportunity to
• 32:09
  speak to both juvenile and
• 32:11
  adult corrections about the
• 32:12
  importance of community
• 32:14
  fitness for everyone.
• 32:16
  And then that might be it for now,
• 32:20
  I think.
• 32:21
  You know, a long time ago,
• 32:23
  Greg Glassman said that the
• 32:26
  cure for the world's most
• 32:27
  vexing problem is CrossFit,
• 32:31
  physical fitness, getting off the couch.
• 32:36
  And you guys are putting
• 32:37
  that to practice every single day.
• 32:43
  You have one,
• 32:44
  one big story to tell me to
• 32:45
  prove where that,
• 32:47
  where that has played out
• 32:48
  in a way that shows your success.
• 32:52
  Yeah,
• 32:52
  actually we have a youth who was able
• 32:55
  to start the CrossFit program.
• 32:57
  at Indian River Juvenile
• 32:58
  Corrections Facility about
• 32:59
  six weeks before he was released.
• 33:02
  And he was released in May
• 33:03
  of twenty twenty four.
• 33:05
  Part of our program is to
• 33:07
  provide that same community
• 33:09
  that they have in the
• 33:10
  CrossFit program in the facility.
• 33:12
  when they leave.
• 33:13
  So we have a reentry section
• 33:15
  where we work with the parole officer,
• 33:18
  parents,
• 33:18
  or whoever the child is going to
• 33:19
  live with.
• 33:20
  And we find them a community
• 33:21
  fitness gym nearby.
• 33:24
  And we work with the state
• 33:25
  to make sure that there are
• 33:26
  no barriers for entry.
• 33:27
  If they need tennis shoes,
• 33:29
  we're going to give them tennis shoes.
• 33:29
  If they need a bus pass,
• 33:31
  we get them a bus pass
• 33:32
  figured out so that they
• 33:33
  can have success.
• 33:35
  Our
• 33:36
  our standard is we like to
• 33:38
  provide the gym membership
• 33:40
  for them for at least the
• 33:41
  first three months while
• 33:42
  they're getting
• 33:43
  re-established because a
• 33:44
  lot of these kids have been
• 33:44
  incarcerated for a number
• 33:45
  of years and the kid just
• 33:47
  has to commit to going
• 33:48
  twice a week and my staff
• 33:50
  is able to communicate with
• 33:51
  the youth after they're
• 33:52
  released for that
• 33:53
  accountability if they need
• 33:55
  help beyond the three
• 33:56
  months we're able to
• 33:58
  petition the state to do that.
• 34:00
  But we also have kids who have said, hey,
• 34:02
  I can pay this much of it,
• 34:03
  or can I clean the gym in exchange?
• 34:06
  And we have a youth who made
• 34:07
  a shout out to CrossFit Expedition.
• 34:10
  They have a youth who has
• 34:11
  been going there since May
• 34:12
  of twenty twenty four.
• 34:14
  So fifteen plus months still
• 34:16
  as a member at the gym.
• 34:18
  He is also on the spectrum.
• 34:21
  So being part of a group is
• 34:24
  very difficult for him.
• 34:26
  And one of the first things
• 34:27
  his mom came back to the
• 34:29
  gym to talk to them about
• 34:30
  was at his work study graduation things,
• 34:34
  totally the wrong title,
• 34:35
  but that's essentially what it was.
• 34:36
  He spoke at that event.
• 34:39
  So you have a kid who's on
• 34:40
  the spectrum who does not
• 34:42
  like to be in groups,
• 34:43
  who doesn't relate well to
• 34:44
  people now getting up and speaking.
• 34:47
  um this was probably within
• 34:49
  the first six months of him
• 34:50
  getting released so I still
• 34:52
  get videos from nicole
• 34:53
  every few months the gym
• 34:54
  also an important part of
• 34:55
  this is the gym embraces
• 34:57
  the entire family so in the
• 34:58
  last fifteen months his
• 35:00
  mom's breast cancer has
• 35:01
  returned and the gym has
• 35:02
  been able to surround her
• 35:04
  with love and support as
• 35:05
  well which is lacking for
• 35:07
  parents of kids with struggles
• 35:11
  That's amazing.
• 35:12
  And your recidivism rate is
• 35:15
  like freakishly low.
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  Yes.
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  Compared to everywhere else.
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  Like I want to say Matt told
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  me typically eighties percent.
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  You guys are in the twenties.
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  Roughly.
• 35:30
  Yeah.
• 35:30
  So typically depending on the demographic,
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  it's about sixty to eighty percent.
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  But ours hovers around
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  twenty three to twenty five percent.
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  We're actually working with
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  the state to increase our
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  data and have some more
• 35:42
  specific numbers coming out
• 35:44
  in the next couple of months.
• 35:45
  So I'm super excited to hear those.
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  That means your clients or
• 35:50
  the people you work with
• 35:52
  have a much greater chance
• 35:54
  of succeeding once they
• 35:55
  leave and not returning to
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  a detention center or a
• 35:58
  prison because of what you
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  guys are doing.
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  because they're choosing to
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  be uh to change their
• 36:05
  trajectory they're choosing
• 36:06
  to change the generational
• 36:08
  curse that their family has
• 36:09
  been under um they're
• 36:10
  choosing to change their
• 36:11
  relationships they're also
• 36:13
  given um love and support
• 36:15
  like you've talked about um
• 36:16
  that they don't typically
• 36:17
  have at home possibly and
• 36:19
  so now they have a support
• 36:21
  system I love people they
• 36:24
  used to see thank you the
• 36:25
  people they used to see as
• 36:26
  enemies that the law
• 36:27
  enforcement the probation officers that
• 36:30
  school administration.
• 36:31
  They used to see those as enemies,
• 36:33
  and now they can see them as partners.
• 36:35
  At our gym yesterday with our kids,
• 36:36
  we had four probation
• 36:37
  officers and the school
• 36:38
  resource officer working out with kids.
• 36:40
  What better role models and
• 36:43
  relationships that they're
• 36:44
  forming right there that
• 36:48
  they've not had the
• 36:49
  opportunity to do that.
• 36:50
  They've not had the
• 36:51
  environment to do that in.
• 36:55
  I think what's missed in
• 36:56
  that is not only are you
• 36:57
  forming that partnership
• 36:58
  and doing all those things
• 36:59
  for the kids those
• 37:02
  probation officers are now
• 37:04
  fit and it is probably
• 37:07
  improving their life moving
• 37:09
  forward as well and
• 37:11
  improving the county budget
• 37:14
  right I mean insurance
• 37:15
  rates probably go down all
• 37:17
  this all the good stuff right yeah
• 37:22
  When we talk about,
• 37:23
  Debbie hasn't really brought it up much,
• 37:24
  but the Unity games, we had all of,
• 37:29
  Debbie talked about the Unity games.
• 37:30
  I don't want to shortchange it.
• 37:32
  It's just amazing.
• 37:35
  What we did was we had the
• 37:36
  four facilities that we're in.
• 37:38
  We took youth from the four,
• 37:40
  we bused them to one facility,
• 37:42
  which is a process in itself,
• 37:44
  bringing the youth through
• 37:45
  security and searches and all of that.
• 37:46
  But we had partners, two youth,
• 37:49
  and then we brought in law enforcement.
• 37:51
  So Sandy's office,
• 37:53
  all the way up.
• 37:54
  We had Homeland Security, SWAT.
• 37:56
  I don't even know all of the agencies,
• 37:58
  but they partnered with the
• 37:59
  kids and our staff had four workouts.
• 38:02
  It was a competition and
• 38:03
  they went head to head,
• 38:05
  but it was a team of three.
• 38:07
  The physical fitness is the
• 38:10
  hook to get them in,
• 38:12
  especially these kids.
• 38:13
  right the conversations then
• 38:15
  that happen around that
• 38:17
  between events we were we
• 38:18
  gave them homework like
• 38:19
  find out what your law
• 38:20
  enforcement partner does
• 38:21
  during the day um teaching
• 38:23
  them again that these are
• 38:24
  partners these are not your
• 38:26
  enemies first time ever
• 38:29
  first time thought for
• 38:30
  those kids um these are
• 38:32
  people who want to be part
• 38:34
  of your life for good not
• 38:36
  to punish you to grow you
• 38:40
  And the camaraderie there with,
• 38:41
  between the officers,
• 38:42
  it didn't matter that they
• 38:44
  were in juvenile prisons
• 38:45
  and it didn't matter any of that.
• 38:47
  It was, you're my teammate,
• 38:49
  let's go win this thing.
• 38:50
  So I should put a shout out
• 38:52
  because if I don't, I might get fired,
• 38:54
  but Director Wilson and his team won.
• 38:59
  But it was, it was hard fought and it was,
• 39:04
  it was a hard fought competition.
• 39:06
  My goal was not to finish last.
• 39:08
  And I did not, so I was happy.
• 39:12
  That's my goal with every day in class.
• 39:14
  Every day.
• 39:15
  Every day in class, that's my goal.
• 39:18
  I like to say you get your money's worth.
• 39:21
  You're using the entire time
• 39:23
  that's allotted.
• 39:24
  You're getting your money's worth.
• 39:26
  Yeah,
• 39:26
  until they have to keep the lights on
• 39:28
  for an extra hour for me to come in.
• 39:33
  But yeah,
• 39:34
  I think that's most of us are
• 39:36
  trying not to be the last person done.
• 39:38
  But if you are,
• 39:39
  you're cheered on like nobody else,
• 39:40
  right?
• 39:41
  Absolutely.
• 39:43
  So the best way to support
• 39:44
  these ladies is on September eleventh,
• 39:47
  show up in Columbus at
• 39:48
  historic cruise stadium, go do some yoga,
• 39:51
  go do some walking,
• 39:53
  climb some stairs or do some CrossFit.
• 39:56
  Hang out with them, register,
• 39:58
  and partner up with your best friend,
• 40:01
  partner up with a first responder,
• 40:03
  show up at the event,
• 40:05
  do everything you can to
• 40:06
  get those numbers up so we
• 40:07
  can show what these ladies
• 40:09
  are doing every single day
• 40:11
  to make our state better here in Ohio,
• 40:13
  and in turn, sharing that with the world.
• 40:16
  Exactly.
• 40:18
  So in order to register,
• 40:20
  just so if you can put this
• 40:21
  out there as well,
• 40:22
  if you go to the Ohio
• 40:23
  Department of Public Safety's website,
• 40:26
  the link is on that website.
• 40:28
  And then there's also a QR code.
• 40:30
  There's a video you can watch.
• 40:31
  There's a whole lot of stuff
• 40:32
  on there you can look at to register.
• 40:36
  Yeah,
• 40:37
  I tried to put the links into Sevan's
• 40:39
  chat.
• 40:40
  YouTube does not like links.
• 40:43
  They do not,
• 40:44
  or I would put it in the
• 40:45
  comment and the thing,
• 40:46
  but the section below,
• 40:48
  but they do not like me
• 40:49
  putting links in there for some reason.
• 40:51
  So I'll try again, but yeah.
• 40:56
  DM me.
• 40:57
  I'll send you to these lovely ladies.
• 40:59
  I have the link.
• 41:00
  I can send it right.
• 41:01
  You have our emails.
• 41:02
  You can send our emails, whatever.
• 41:04
  It doesn't matter.
• 41:05
  Yeah.
• 41:06
  Awesome, guys.
• 41:07
  Thank you so much for
• 41:08
  jumping on with me today.
• 41:09
  Thank you so much for having us.
• 41:10
  Great to hear everything you're doing.
• 41:12
  And it makes me proud to be an Ohioan.
• 41:14
  Thank you so much for having us.
• 41:17
  All right, guys.
• 41:18
  Thank you for joining me.
• 41:19
  I will see you next week on
• 41:21
  Lunch with the Clydesdale
• 41:22
  and Sunday night for Sunday
• 41:23
  Night CrossFit Talk.
• 41:24
  We'll see everybody next time.
• 41:26
  Bye, guys.
• 41:27
  Thank you.
• 41:27
  Bye.