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Episode 1 : From Corporate Strategist to Psychic Medium with Lauren Lee · You Already Know Podcast with Ash Cebulka

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the You Already Know Podcast, a show all about intuition and the wild, mysterious ways our inner knowing speaks to us.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: In each episode, you'll hear stories from guests about life-changing moments when they trusted their intuition, even though it completely defied logic and how it changed the trajectory of their lives.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: It will be fun, at times hilarious, and deeply inspiring.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful you're here.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now let's dive into today's episode.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right, you guys, I am so I couldn't actually be more excited about today's guest.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she is a dear friend of mine, and everybody who knows her absolutely loves her, and you're about to see why.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: The beautiful Lauren Lee is here.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Lauren, welcome to the show.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited too.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so we're so happy to have you here.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, you guys, I want to tell you a little bit about Lauren.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna read her bio to you, and then we're gonna get right into it because she has, we have so much to talk about with her.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lauren is a developing medium.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: I would I would say she's already a medium psychic, um, mindfulness teacher and business strategist with an extensive training in meditation and mindfulness, including studies through the Harvard Extension School, and drawing from nearly a decade of mindfulness practice and a career-leading growth and strategy initiatives in e-commerce.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Lauren brings a grounded relational approach to mediumship.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot wait to tell you guys all about it.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she's so passionate about awareness, personal development, and exploring how intuition and connection can be integrated into everyday life.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Lauren, welcome to You Already Now.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's such an honor to have you here.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's so many directions that I want to go in with you because we talk about intuition and all this stuff all the time.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um, but I almost want to start with how our paths crossed again, because even that is such an intuitive, crazy story.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and I don't even know if you remember what happened, what led to you, me freaking out that you reached out.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's start there.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, how long ago was this?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Was it a year and a half ago at this point?
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's it's definitely been over a year.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So to go way, way back, uh like a decade ago, I guess.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lauren was one of my clients and forever ago.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it started with you did the group coaching program, is that right?
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a women's group.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was a women's group.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Definitely free.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, you guys, over a decade I've known this gorgeous woman.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: And we, you know, that was wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: We got close as you always do through women's group, but we didn't spend a whole lot of time like one-on-one talking by any means.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that was like for about a year.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Then cut to, yeah, about nine years later.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Nine years later.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then nine years later, um, I was going through an extremely challenging time.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: I had just split with my business partner and it was a shock to me.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was not something that I was expecting.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: It came out of, it felt like truly came out of nowhere.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you got like I actually said out loud to my brother who is past, he's on the other side, and he's one of my guides.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he's been my guide and gives me very clear instructions when I ask him for them, especially if I'm somewhat demanding, if I'm being totally honest.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I was, I was like, Ian, that's my brother's name.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Ian, I understand that I'm intuitive and I know that if I really tried that I could access the clarity that I need right now, but I'm struggling.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really need help.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I need you to send me somebody who will give me clear direction and messages from you.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I want it to come directly from you.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to know that it is you giving me those messages.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: And you know I'm impatient.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I want you to send them to me right now.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're not even kidding.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually said this out loud.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I kid you not, you guys.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: It I think it was within 48 hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get an email from Lauren.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: And Lauren reaches out and she's like, Hey, Ash, long time no chat.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: I was so excited to see her name pop into my inbox.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: And she said, Um, you know, I would love to introduce you to my friend who who I don't even remember her name at this point.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: And she said, like, you guys, I'm actually in mediumship school with her, and you two are cut from the same cloth.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Backtrack.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing I see is you're in mediumship school.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: Last thing I knew, she was training in meditation school.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so, anyways, of course I said I'd love to meet your friend, but I said, Could I get a reading with you?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm pretty sure we did the reading the next day, and my brother came through with clear messages.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like within 72 hours that that happened.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then we've been connected ever since, you guys.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: And she is the most, I can't say enough about Lauren's abilities as a psychic or as a medium psychic.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you like to be called.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know you say.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: And she just glows from the inside out.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: If you guys aren't watching this video, you can't see that.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: But she, and everybody who meets Lauren says this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like she's like this glowing angel.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't care if you're getting uncomfortable because it's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everything that she shares is with such loving care.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you feel so taken care of in her presence, which is an incredibly important thing when you're doing a reading like that, that you can relax and trust that whatever's meant to come through will come through and that it'll be delivered in a loving way.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what Lauren does.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: So that's our story.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it even starts with intuition and um, you know, the divine popping through in the most magical way.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought that was a fun backstory to tell before we get into your more of your story.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just want to add part, so my side of that story, right?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want intuition.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm in mediumship development classes and I have tutors and we're working, and part of that is to get practice.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like you need to sit with people and you need to tell them, hey, I'm developing, I'm practicing.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so on my side of the of the coin or energetic space, right?
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm saying out loud or I'm saying to spirit or the greater intelligence, whatever words you want to use.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I need, I need more people to like help and work with and practice.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: And up until that point, I really wasn't like ready for that.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I didn't feel like I could be of service yet.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so uh you kept coming up in my like awareness.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'd be in class and I'd be talking to my classmate.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh my God, I need to connect them.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so I sent that email with only the intention to connect the two, you know, people, you and my friends.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: And the most beautiful part of that is that Ash was like so warm and so welcoming.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you were like, let it rip, Lauren, like let it go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you've got the like you were so encouraging.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: I was very nervous.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and your brother came through in like such magical and beautiful ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then from that, you were like, Please let me send you to a few more people that you can practice with.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Okay, yeah, yeah, I I that's what I asked for.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: But of course, inside I'm like, oh my god, Lauren, here you go.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the amount of people that from just connecting with you has just been so profound and I'm so grateful to know all those people and their loved ones.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: So look at what happens though when you follow that intuitive nudge or that that knowing, and it just seems like it pours in with abundance and ease.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's so true, it really does.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody who's had a reading with you, which I've had many, many readings with her, you guys, and everybody is like, Lauren, oh my god, Lauren.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I know, I know, I told you.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just the it's just the best.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: And we even, I remember, well, you know, it's also a funny part of this story is that I've never connected with your friend.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like that to me is so magical in its own right because we just never know why we're connecting with people at this the time that we are, and it could end up being for a totally different reason than we initially think.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me is such a testament to trusting that inner knowing and not being overly attached to the outcome, but just letting what needs to unfold unfold, you know, and understandably so with the psychic mediumship stuff.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like you were nervous about really and we did psyche around it.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember that?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we did, yes, and it was extremely profound, and multiple times we did psyche.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then you were letting it rip after that.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: You were like, okay, here we go.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for that.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is it was incredible to be able and that's that's I think to your point, like right?
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're following these knowings, and it's also so awesome to be in support of one another and share the gifts that you may have or the knowledge you have and share it freely in a way where it's really supportive of both people or all people that are are doing that.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: I remember a big moment for me was I was in my mother-in-law's house, right?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: I yes, I can see it right now.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like uh she's in the Midwest and it's like middle of summer, it's like hot, it's like raining, it's humid.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in her, um, what do they call those?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Where it's like all windows, the room, the room sort of sunroom.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm doing a psyche session with you.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it was just so profound in the way of like being able to be there in that space and feel comfortable enough with being either like this idea that I could be a medium or a psychic and support people in this way.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was deeply profound.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm so glad.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy that it was it was helpful.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I just remember it being like very you feeling almost timid about it.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was just like I watched right before my eyes the unlock of just oh no, here okay, it's go time.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then you've really, you know, and that to me is just like the power of being able to be courageous enough to let go of the stuff that's getting in the way of us really trusting ourselves because that's really what it is at the end of the day.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 11:52
  unknown: Yes.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: So let's hear more about your story of becoming a psychic medium, or even as you know on on this show, it's all about helping people tap into that knowing and that you already know, and that and if you don't know in the moment, you have access to guidance to discovering what the next best decision is.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you help people with that so much with your work.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I loved for people to hear stories about like these pivotal moments in life where it completely defied logic.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't make any sense, but there was a strong knowing that you had to do something or be around somebody, and then you just went for it and how it changed the trajectory of your life.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: So, is there anything that comes to mind?
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it may even be about becoming a psychic.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, go ahead, let's hear all about it.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, thank you for asking the question and thank you for you know holding the space for people to tell what it's like for them.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: So when people are listening, you know, you may have felt felt similar things in your body or your awareness and that knowing.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this is a very cool concept uh to just really hone in on.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: So my uh two things happened um that led me to explore mediumship and psychic skills, right?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the first thing that happened was uh our family dog, he he was 10.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: His name is Daxi Pooh.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Daxi Pooh, that's so Daxi Poopy.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um and he got sick and we wanted him to make it to 10, and he did.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I just would talk to him, and I this is three years ago, okay.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I would talk to him and I'd be like, just let me know when you're, you know, if there is another place that you go, like let me know that you've gotten there.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just was like, let me hear your nails across the floor, let me hear like the sound of you lapping water.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Just I would talk to him about like what it could be.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and again, I had no really any other experiences with mediumship or psychic work, right?
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so when the time came where he was too sick, and we had to go to the vet, and um, you know, the vet was so lovely.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: They had us in this open space where we actually were outside.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: We could hear the birds, there was like blue skies, the wind, it was so peaceful.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we were me, it was me and my husband, and we had our hands like on him and his body, and he was kind of in and out of consciousness.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And the vet said to us, Okay, he's gone.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like in that split second, like the words came out of the vet's mouth, and then in that same moment, there was not like a space between in my awareness, like in my mind and my body, so not external but internal.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: I heard this like childlike voice, like not my voice, but like a childlike voice.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, it felt and sounded like a a boy, was like, mom, I'm so happy.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm free.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: And there was just like this huge wave of peace and calm and joy.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I looked at my husband, he's got like snot coming down his nose and tears, and we're just a mess.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: But in that moment, that wave, I looked at my husband, I'm like, he's happy, he's free.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: And my husband's like, I know.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, I know.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I heard him.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it was so profound in so many ways.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so we left, obviously, and then and and we had to process that, and we had our own ways of processing his transition.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: And in that processing, I just couldn't let that go.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: That experience, it was so real, it was so known that it was him.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how I knew that, but it felt like him.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: And those words to say to me, Mom, I'm so happy and free.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, it's beautiful.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: And yet it's so deeply profound because over the last 10 years that he was part of my life, that was so much of my mindfulness and um meditation training and practice.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: And he was there for all of that.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Every book, every lecture, every paper I had to write, all the meditations that I recorded.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so much of that work is about understanding freedom and understanding happiness.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like he could attain it and he could explain it back to me in a way, you know, that is so profound.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I couldn't let that go.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it took me a few months, and then another event happened, and then that was kind of the undeniable moment.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I was up late and I love watching Teresa.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what Teresa?
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the Long Island medium.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, with the hair.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Love her and her nails and her hands.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's got the whole vibe going.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love her.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Then I've loved her for so long.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm up late and I'm watching her show, and and this voice I just heard within like myself like say to myself, I could do that.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, wait, what?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like it had never been anything I had ever considered.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I went on my phone and I just Googled like uh energy reading class in Boise.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: I live in Boise.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And up pops this event for tomorrow, the next day at 10 a.m.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: with this psychic medium teacher that's here locally.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, so I signed up, I joined it, and was like, okay, I'll do it.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is completely illogical.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make any sense.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's everything you're talking about, right?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I show up in the class, and there's probably like, I don't know, six or eight of us, and we're in the back of like a metaphysical shop because of course it is, right?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, of course.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: The classroom of where, you know, all the crystals and everything are being sold up front.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: And we're all sitting around a table.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so the teacher is guiding us and she's giving us some information.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: She she brings out some cards, you know, like those um uh what are they called?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like tarot cards or yeah.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so everybody takes a card and she's like, okay, now can one person volunteer to be read by all of these people?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so one woman volunteers.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so as everybody's going around the table, I'm probably like the fifth person to go.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's going around the table.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm feeling behind me there's like this presence of a man.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh my God, I don't know what is happening.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm trying to like stay focused on the task at hand.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: And the task at hand is to look at your card and feel into the card and feel into the person.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I can't focus and I can't, I I just couldn't couldn't do it.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so as it's coming around to me, you know, they get to me and they're like, okay, Lauren, it's your turn.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I literally said, I can't do this.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, closed the little book thing, and I turned to the woman sitting to my right, and her to me, it looked like her, her face.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I know this is gonna stick with me, okay?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah, the way that my eyes looked at her face, it looked like her teeth were protruding from her mouth, but that was not the way she actually looked.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so I looked at her again, and it was like her teeth were were highlighted for me and my awareness, and it was like protruding out of her mouth.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I felt a man.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: And so I the words that came out of my mouth were, Do you know a gentleman in spirit?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: And the two of you uh had uh teeth that were like more bucked, and he would use to he used to tell you, don't worry, it will change.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: And she looked at me like, what?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: The actual F is going.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: Holy shit.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: I have goosebumps all over my body.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, wow.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Then what?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, meanwhile, I'm dying on the inside.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: I want to crawl underneath the table.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why she's saying what I'm saying.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And it was just so overwhelmingly like these words need to come out of your mouth.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like you are so in hindsight, of course, I can understand what's going on.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: But in the moment, I was like, here we go.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and she said, Yes.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, Yes.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what do you mean, yes?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: What the heck?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, and then the next thing that came out of my mouth was, I was like, Well, did he have a red pickup truck?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, Yes.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, What the heck is going on?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then the next thing that came in my mouth is, did he have a heart?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Did he have a heart issue?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um and she said uh he the pickup truck fell on top of him.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, okay, I understand.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: I said, is this your uncle?
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: She said, yes.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm I am spontaneously giving this woman a reading.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: I have no training, I've never done this before.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what's happening.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: Talk about intuition coming online and uh leading you down a path.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so then I like picked up the book and I was like, okay, let's return to the world.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: The teacher was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, okay.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Going, like clearly, somebody's here and they want to communicate.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I was like, So you have a picture of him in your house?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: And she goes, Yeah.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: And he I was like, she he just wants to acknowledge and say thank you for that.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: And there was like such a friendliness about him.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh she was like, That was my favorite uncle, you know, and and he was my favorite person.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it was just really so beautiful.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: And after that experience, I was like, Okay, Lauren, something's up, girlfriend, and you gotta figure this out.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it was that experience that I was like, I needed, I needed a teacher, I need a classroom, I need somewhere where I can explore and understand what happened.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then then here we are, you know, almost three years later.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that was three years ago.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, there's so much that I want to unpack here because uh, first of all, it's extraordinary.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just say that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Then thank you for sharing.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I say there's a lot to unpack because I feel well, I know that so many people have these experiences, whether it's feeling a spirit, seeing a spirit, and or just a knowing coming over them.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: And we all know like the all the Claire.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: So there's so many different ways that it can come through, right?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like hearing something like you did.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: You there's so many things that you experienced in the Claire's, like you saw things, you heard things.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: So what was that like for you?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because the, and the reason why I asked that, I just want you to know the intention behind it, is because this is all about helping people learn how to trust that knowing and how it shows up so differently for all of us, and how the logical mind will give us a barrage of doubt, which will distract us from it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: But like, what was it like for you to move through that, through having that inner knowing, it being so strong?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what was the doubt like?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how did you move through that to the point that you are at now where you took a lot of courageous action in order to be where you are now to give so many readings to people?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's I love that you're going you know deeper into it because um it wasn't like, okay, I had that experience, and then now let's just, you know, easy breezy.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: No, it comes with a lot of interpersonal uh reflection and observation.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: So um, like you could hear in the story, you could hear that I at first was very much like, what?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, not me.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: And also uh a lot of doubt, a lot of um, I really believe that you're only able to have mediumship and psychic abilities if you were born with it.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Now I understand it is a developed skill that anybody can do.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um and trusting, trusting those experiences took processing, right?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: It took processing of talking to a few people that were close to me that I felt like I could trust, right?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then processing what's in my way, like what is it that makes me doubt myself?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: What is it that makes me doubt that experience?
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really like inner inner work, right?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's not, I'm not gonna find that information externally.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: So um, first it was let me come from a place of curiosity, let me not have it all figured out.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: So that was really the biggest momentum internally.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: I've had these experiences, they were real to me, and now I'm curious.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me more.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me more about how this could potentially work.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: And the other point of curiosity was could I repeat it?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I really was just looking at at it from like a I maybe even more like scientific, like a little experiment of my own.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to do that privately, right?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: And just see, could I repeat this?
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then when I got into the classroom, that's kind of like going to the gym.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's where you get to build that muscle of trust and know, and trust and know, and what it feels like in your body.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think to your point, I think a lot of times people have something spontaneous happen to them, right?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Or something that's undeniable, meaning I feel so freaking drawn to go and move to Italy.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's like undeniable, right?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's the muscle that you build to be able to have that all the time, right?
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: Or or majority of the time, where it's not just spontaneous, but it's within your awareness to be able to use all the time.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Is that making sense?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it makes total sense.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's the question that I have around which you and I have had a million conversations about doubt, right?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Because I do think that that's the thing.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I know you're saying the muscle of exercising it and trusting, and then eventually over time, it's essentially like it compounds, like you have enough experiences that show you you can trust it, right?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: But what do you do when the doubt shows up?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: What do you do when your mind is trying to convince you otherwise of whatever it is you're hearing?
• 27:29
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• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, personally, I you know what's helpful is I mean, just this this week, you know, there's uh something more personal that I don't want to share here, but but what helps me through the doubt of knowing something and feeling like, yes, this is true for me, and it's a yes for me.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it's not yet manifested maybe in this physical reality, but energetically, like you know it's a real thing for you, you know it feels very aligned.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um I do at times when doubt feels like it's louder, like the thought, the narration of you know, doubting yourself, questioning, am I right?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Am I am I did I feel that right?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I do tend to rest back into the understanding that there is a greater intelligence.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it, you know, use whatever language feels most resent resonant to you, a divinity, a god, a greater intelligence, you know, divine orchestration, whatever it is.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that I've had enough experiences witnessing that, just like we were talking about in the beginning with between me and you and like the conversations and the email and like how that all went.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: There was a greater orchestration, there was a greater intelligence at play.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: So sometimes I do rest back in that.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: What that means to me is I can let go of the doubt.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: I can let go of the narration of questioning myself because I'm in full trust that there's a greater intelligence at play.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't yet know how it's gonna play out.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna go one way, right?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: It feels like a one way.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's an internal dialogue, it's an internal muscle, it's an internal resting, I think is like maybe the best way to describe that.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna park my I'm not gonna be able to figure this one out through the intellect, through the narration of my mind.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna rest back into my heart, I'm gonna rest back into the greater intelligence and and let it go for now.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I do when doubt is really loud.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's so beautiful because what a pure definition of having trust and faith, you know?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's really what it is, having the certainty in in the unknown that you're taking care of.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: And that's it's not always easy, right?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: It is Yeah, of course.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a choice.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it does appear that when I'm able to make that distinction and choice, that like I just did, like I can take a deeper breath, right?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: Return back to this idea that maybe life is easy and maybe it is abundant and abundant in many different ways, abundant in opportunities and abundant in connections, abundant in love, you know, generosity of people, um laughter, whatever, right?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and for sure.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just take the pressure off and yeah, for a little bit, right?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, yes.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Taking the pressure off is huge because pressure is only ever coming from fear.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: And and and in in mediumship and psychic development, we actually you see yourself.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of an interesting self-development work.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: You are expanding your awareness and shifting your attention outside of your your story, right?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: And the narration that you have in your own mind and awareness.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you shift your or I should say, you expand your awareness, and then you start to receive information that is not associated with your story.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you can see, I can see when my mind comes in and will say, You couldn't know that.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, you're not gonna say that.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna be that bold and say something so specific.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so every time that happens, I get to meet or get to see and witness where I stop like the flow of intuition or stop the flow of the greater intelligence, you know.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's what I'm then like unhooking myself from.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Over and over again.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like a fast track in the sense of you're being faced with it so frequently that you're getting the opportunity to overcome that doubt over and over and over again.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure you see this in your work too, right?
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: You're sure.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: You've got those subconscious programs running and you get to meet them and you get to then reprogram it.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so there are a lot of different methods and ways to do that.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, so I'm curious of what your thoughts are and and your take on manifestation based on everything that you know.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I'm asking is I know you and I've had this conversation, I'm sure at least anybody will who will indulge me, I will have the conversation of free will versus not having free will.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm curious what your thoughts are, what your take is in this present moment on manifestation.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think manifestation is a beautiful thing, first of all.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's um, you know, that idea of co-creating, right?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: I do remember when I was so uh I think I told you about this physicist.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: She came and she talked to us at the Harvard Extension School.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: And she really was like, hey, all probabilities exist.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then when you assign meaning to one of those probabilities, it collapses, meaning energetically, right?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: And it starts to form into this physical form.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: I found that so fascinating and so interesting that science is looking to describe that in a real way and and prove it out.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I think today that's kind of how I I look at manifestation.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's like if all these probabilities are real and alive and exist, then what is it that I want to collapse on or assign meaning to and bring in to this physical form that I get to play in?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the part that I think manifestation maybe for me is is uh I'm like learning more about is it may not be immediate and it may not be the way that I envision in my mind's eye.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: It may be a different form or it might be a different experience.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: Energetically, it's the same, right?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: So a good example is um we really felt this intuitive nudge to sell our home.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: It really wasn't logical, right?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: But it was just like, hey, this is what we're gonna do.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it it required trust, it required faith, it required checking in with one another.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, when things are starting to be easeful and things are going your way, uh, meaning that, you know, you're not hitting a lot of resistance when you're choosing to do something, it it does seem like a good signpost, a little trail marker.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like breadcrumbs for sure.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: And um we set out with the intention that it would be easeful and abundant.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what we wanted to manifest.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: So let that ex let all the probabilities right express themselves as long as it's easeful and abundant.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we would collapse on and bring into our world, like to assign it back to that example with the physicist.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that's how I see manifestation.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we are co-creating.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we're an active ingredient because we are physical, like we are part of matter and and we are energetic.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so that we get we have some special sauce, right?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: We get to be able to actually bring things into the physical form and interact it with one another.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: And in mediumship, we're always told, like, you know, you're you're the active ingredient.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: What that means is that when we're feeling and experiencing something that someone's loved one is sharing with us, we are the physical vessel to make that active and alive.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's kind of how I feel about manifestation.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, one, we're so freaking lucky we get to do that.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: And two, that it's a playfulness, right?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: And to release to release like uh uh the outcomes and let it be the most abundant, like the most easeful that it could possibly be for you and all people can be involved.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about manifestation?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe overused or sensationalized.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it just feels very we're very lucky.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: We're very lucky to be able to do something like that.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that was such a beautiful description of it.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I love hearing your real life examples, which is always, I think, the most helpful for people to hear.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think there's so many different ways to manifest.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: I also think we have way less free will than we our ego likes to believe.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean that in actually an empowering way.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: It could sound disempowering, but I think that so much is predestined.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's really just about removing the blocks that are stopping us, which is predominantly control and fear, which is, you know, control is driven by fear, that's allowing those things to just flow into our life.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think whenever you're removing those blocks, however you're doing it, um to me, those blocks reside in the subconscious, which is why I love helping people do that.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because to me, it's like when you remove those blocks, then you just relax into being your authentic self, not your conditioned self.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then what's meant for you just can naturally find you because you're not meeting life with so much performative nature, performative energy, and you're not trying to force your way into outcomes that might not really even be for you.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: I've been thinking about this a lot lately because you know, when you hear something probably 500 times, and then that 500 and one time it just hits you like a ton of bricks, and you're like, oh no, I get it now.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like I really get it, you know.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I feel about the saying of what's meant for you will find you when you're being your authentic self.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're trying to be anything other than the truest version of you, without perfectionism, of course, but obviously just relaxed and being yourself and having fun with life and letting it feel playful.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: When you're being that version of you, the things that are meant for you, you're a magnet.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: You quite literally are a magnet.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: But they can't find you when you're forcing yourself to be something other than what you are, you know?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when you're buying into all the tropes of society and what everybody's saying you need to do in order to be successful, to be loved, to be in a relationship, to be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the bullshit that we hear all the time.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: But then on top of it, I think, and I've personally experienced this, as you know, when you just ask for guidance of what's in the highest good for your soul, not what your ego wants.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's the distinction that I wish was made more frequently in the manifestation world.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because to me, manifestation and intuition go together, right?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's when you are asking to be guided by your soul, that is a very different experience than trying to manifest the things that your ego wants because it's getting a quick hit.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't, it doesn't do much for you.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's why so many people are chasing this never-ending cycle of success, especially in America.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it feels empty inside because that's not to say you can't be successful.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Of course you can't.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: But when it's coming from your soul and then it's like an expression of you, and you would do it whether you were making money or not, then that is when whatever comes of those actions feels fulfilling.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're asking for guidance from your guides, from creator, universe, God, whatever you believe in, that stuff is revealed to you in the most magical, serendipitous way that you can't even believe life is real because it's so fun to follow the trail of those things.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: But when we get fixated on trying to create something from our mind, because we think we're gonna feel wholeworthy and lovable once we get it, but it's coming from the ego, it becomes this rat race.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_00: And people get more and more disconnected from themselves and hearing their intuition.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you take us to church, girl.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes to that.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: What do we do?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: I feel so passionate about it because we're all in this wild ride during this year, right?
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's been so much shedding, so much change.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've watched you move out of that house, move into this gorgeous home of yours, change jobs, change.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: So many people are going through shedding that they just, yes, some of it's external, but a lot of it's internal.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of it's little layers of who we thought we had to be in life, and these subtleties that make a big difference in our everyday life.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I think when you have these grounded practices in spirituality and mindfulness and and intuition, it brings a different level of comfort to you than if you don't, you know.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's beautiful, really.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's authentic, authenticity, right?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: And knowing yourself at that level and continuing to explore yourself, right?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: Of like what that means to be the most authentic, soulful, uh, heartfelt version of yourself.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not that like the mind and the ego go away, like we need them to show up and be and have, you know, form and continuity to your life, right?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's more like I remember, you know, I've I've just been so focused on mediumship and psychic that a lot of my references are that.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, they were giving us a class and they were sharing with us the uh the tutors that I work with, which I would have be happily, happily share their information here.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um they shared like this idea of the inspired mind and living from allowing the mind to continuously be inspired by the soul.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: And the greater intelligence and the divine and God, you know, like what would it be like for you?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: And how how would you perceive the world if the mind was learning alongside you, uh, the soul, you know, and allowing the soul to inspire it?
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because I I feel as though creativity, our creativity, our our ability to be creativity is like the divine allowing us to express itself through us.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so if we can get the mind to be inspired by that and to be uh alongside it, like befriend the things that we're experiencing, then then it's it's a it's a joy ride.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's so true.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Can you share more about your experience?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know everybody wants to know.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, share more about your experience in doing, I don't even know how many readings you've done at this point, but um what you've learned through that experience.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: I always tell Lauren that she needs to teach this stuff.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's gonna love me for saying that on the podcast.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but like what has your experience been from doing that?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm doing that thing where I look away.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: You and I both do that when we're, you know, inform getting information.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but what has that experience been like for you?
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like what have you taken away from it and what how can people hone their gifts?
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: Can you give us a little snippet?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, it has been deeply profound, deeply profound interpersonal investigation work.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's really, it's an inside job on the most deepest level.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, mediumship is this word we use to describe the ability to communicate with our loved ones.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: And they're no longer in a physical form, but they're very much real and alive.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: And their energy, their essence is real and alive.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: And even me saying that phrase has been an evolution.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: I would say the phrase with like an intellectual understanding of it.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: And now I say that phrase with like a deep reverence of knowing that they are very much real and alive.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that has been over the last three years of investigating that.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: Is it?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Is it am I receiving the information from them?
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Am I receiving it, you know, just psychically from the person sitting in front of me?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: And are they real time interacting with me or am I just pulling information from the past?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so all of that that I've been investigating um has been so fascinating because uh like here's a really good example of like the evolution of this process.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, one, to tell my family, right?
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: What it was like a thing.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so cut three years later, you know, my mom told her friend, hey, Lauren does this thing on the side.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_01: And my friend, my mom's friend was like, I want, I want a reading.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh Lord.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: So here I am.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, of course, it bumps up to all my doubt, my worry, fears, and those things are present.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: But I sat down with her and I did a mediumship reading for her.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: And her uncle came through and her great grandmother came through and a friend.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it has been such a journey to get to that place to trust and know, to trust A, and then to trust the information that I'm receiving and share it back to people in a way that they can understand.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so for everybody listening, I think one thing, a few things are really important.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, it's a skill.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's a capability we all have.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I was talking to my mom's friend about this.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I think and I feel like the reason we have this skill and capability, like we can see, we can taste, we can smell, we can hug each other, we can send love to one another, you know, like we can feel one another, all of that is in the same bucket as mediumship and psychic abilities.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I I feel like it's in order to see deeply one another and to help as deeply and as best as you can to help usher one another through this experience.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like mediumship is a healing opportunity to be able to stay connected to our loved ones.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so anybody listening, you can do it.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: You can trust the experiences that you've had in the past, you can take a class, you can listen to a podcast, you you know, like it's all available to all of us.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then the other thing I would say that has really been impactful is this idea of trusting yourself.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the big one.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: Can't wait.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, give it to us.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: So there are so many ways that we give our power away, right?
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I am included in that group, in that.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: I have given my power away in a variety of ways.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so in mediumship, there's this technique that's called sitting in the power.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so you begin by just this meditation of sitting in the power, and it's really, you know, I understood it as like sitting in the divine intelligence power, right?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it's evolved over the years.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you notice where you've given your power away to doubt, to fear, to control, to people, to circumstances.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it's almost like a retrieval, like you're bringing all that back home and being able to sit in your own power and allowing that divine intelligence to run through you and to feel it and to know it and to trust it.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: And in return, you're trusting yourself.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe that exploration or the definition of self is getting bigger.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're not just your thoughts, you're not just your job, you're not just the labels that you've associated with, but you are this beautiful soul, you're this beautiful, great intelligence.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: And even hearing myself say all that, I'm like, I don't know where all this is coming from, but you know, uh it's um to know that to know yourself that way and to begin to trust it is a process, and everybody's welcome to that process, and it can start really small.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so a really good example is you could go for a walk and you could take an intuitive walk, and you can say, I have no place, no destination in mind.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna set out on a walk.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: And when I get to a place where I can turn, I'm gonna check in tide and I'm gonna say, Am I gonna go right or am I gonna go left?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I gonna keep going straight or am I gonna go back?
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: And trust, right?
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: What feels the most resonant yes, most resonant lightness and trust and do that walk or go to the grocery store and walk down the aisle and say, What do I feel drawn to?
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is it peppers?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Is it chocolate?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is it marshmallows?
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever, right?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just getting you aware inside of what that resonant yes feels like and what that resonant knowing feels like, and you can have fun and play there.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love that so much.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's like allowing yourself to be fully guided.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: And the journey has been really interesting for me.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like many people have different journeys to their intuition.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: And so this is just one.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: This is one doorway, right?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: You could be a long distance runner and have all these experiences as well.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: So you guys, don't you think Lauren should teach this to everybody?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: I know you do.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that was so beautiful.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: So you guys give that a try.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: That is such a great practice in being guided and trusting and and also surrendering, surrendering control, surrendering, having to know all the answers, have everything figured out.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: That is such a big, big, big, big part of trusting the intuition is surrendering.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, is there anything else that you want to share with anybody?
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I I get this question a lot, actually.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I I feel like it might be beneficial to share here.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of people ask me, how do you tell the difference between your mind or your intuition and fear or like your mind?
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you actually tell the difference?
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I I would love to hear how you do this too.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I'm sure there's some variances along the way.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: So for me, um, because I've had so much time in meditation, I I reference that as like home base, right?
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, but doesn't have to be like that for everybody.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because I've become so attuned to the way that my narration, like the way I narrate and the thoughts that I generate, right?
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it are sad or whatever, right?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm familiar with the internal dialogue that I have, right?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I know when it sounds fearful, I know when it's worrying, I know when it's pulling from the past, I know when it's idolizing the future.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I can witness that, right?
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: And experiencing that as a witness, I give you some space between the thought, right?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're not that thought and you're the witness of your thoughts, like what else can you witness?
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so sometimes you might have an intuitive knowing or information that comes into your awareness and feel like your thoughts.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't sound like something you'd say.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: It might feel like, oh, I came out of left field.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I would just encourage anybody who's had that experience, don't bypass that, don't toss it away.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, investigate more, meaning bring that, bring that thought, that feeling, that knowing deeper inside, or sit with it, or be quiet with it, or journal with it, or walk and feel into it.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: It has a different resonance than the constant narration.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: And that is your like first telltale sign that okay, all right.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: I am experiencing something a little bit different than just my constant run of thoughts.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's getting more and more familiar with that over time.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's great.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, it's so true.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love that description.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um I do get that question a lot as well.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: How do you distinguish between fear, between anxiety, um, your mind, and intuition?
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll be totally transparent with you guys, that has been such a journey for me because I had a huge psychic awakening when I was going through a divorce, which is a whole story for another day.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and much similar to what you're saying, but slightly different, I will see strong visuals, like very strong visuals, and I will audibly hear things.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then I will notice I the way that it feels in my body is that resonance that you're speaking of.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a knowing that feels like my whole body just knows that it's the truth.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that it's always comfortable.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that distinction is important to make.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: And in the moments where I can just surrender and remember that like this is just information and let it be fun and let it be playful, that's when I feel this huge expansion in my body.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's whenever my mind gets in the way, which I think is very common for all of us, that it creates this, you know, friction with the information that I'm receiving.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just experienced this on my walk before we hopped on this.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: I was walking my dog and I just asked, What do you want me to know?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: And my mind was popping in, like you said, with all the narratives of all the things, blah, blah, blah.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then I just let myself get real quiet.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then all of a sudden, I heard something that was in relationship to all the things that I was my where my mind was going, but it was like it came through me.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't my mind actively trying to figure something out.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was like information that was being delivered to me, right?
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I felt this calmness over my body.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I know that's true.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then I just relaxed.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's a dance of knowing what's the intuition because for me, it's very much a body experience.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's a felt experience in the body of knowing, and I'm sure all of you listeners know that feeling where you just know you know something, even though you don't know why you know it.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the thing, like a muscle, like Lauren was saying, that you exercise trusting.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the more you trust it, the stronger it gets than allowing yourself to give in to the doubt, you know, which again is a normal thing, but that's how that's how I can distinguish.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's very much a felt experience.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love that you brought up the body.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: The body is part of this experience.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I early on, I didn't so much uh acknowledge the body's like the presence in this intuitive knowing.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, our tutors will explain your nervous system is actually uh part of the receptive ability to be able to receive information.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: So, like you said, like um, you know, maybe people do need to have movement in order to calm the nervous system and calm the body to be able even to witness what do I feel like in the body, right?
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: And now incorporating the, I do incorporate the body in like that um somatic release or you know, breath work or meditation or movement or things that are helping you to sink the body in this experience as well.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's that that's such a a good point.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: We we need to include that as well.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you mentioned the nervous system because that's that's why I love doing psych so much, because it's just to me the easiest way to do it.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: But there's of course other ways to balance and regulate your nervous system.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just it's it's removing the blocks that are that are keeping the nervous system in a state of not trusting, you know?
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you do that, then you can hear that intuitive and feel it physically because your nervous system feels safe trusting the body.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, and that's a huge balance that I do for so many people.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's safe for me to trust my body and to trust the signals, you know?
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I mean, when I was going through that psychic awakening, my body was taking me to New York.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that might sound crazy to you guys, but it was, it almost felt involuntary.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: That is the only way I know how to explain it.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was like I physically had to be there and I didn't even know why I had to be there.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was like I my body was taking me there.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what's cool to me about human design is that human design speaks to how everybody's intuition speaks to them differently.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it it highlights that.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: And for a generator and and having a sacral authority, it it's just that your body will physically feel so drawn to something that it will take you there without you even understanding logically why.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: It will be so like a pull in your sacral.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I I feel that so strongly.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's so cool.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, Lauren, I want everybody to know where they can find you, where they can book readings with you.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: So we can tell everybody all the info.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: I do it.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so uh we have a podcast, me and two friends, we have a podcast called the Continue Podcast, Apple, Spotify.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that has a lot of resources and how to connect with me and also just to tune into what I'm up to.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: And then I would say like Instagram is probably the best place.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_01: So it's Laurenlee.love, and you can send me a message directly.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty old school.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um and as I work to get things more, you know, up and running in terms of like booking directly on a website.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll stick to Instagram.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, amazing.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you, first of all, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know everybody just got so much out of hearing your story and for all the amazing tips and tools you just shared with everybody.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're such a light in this world.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_00: I feel so grateful to call you a dear friend.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: I love you.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: I love you.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: And you guys definitely want to book a reading with Lauren because she's the best, as you've already heard me say a million times.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: And is there anything else you want to share with anybody before we close out today?
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just thank you.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, thank you to you.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having this space.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: And thank you to everybody who's listening and curious.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I I really do believe that we are all connected.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's kind of one of those things that we all say, but um, you know, just realize that the impact that, you know, each one of us make on each other and to be kind and love one another.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I'll see you on the next episode, right?
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, for sure.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: I will definitely be having her back, you guys.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: So don't worry.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Lauren.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, bye.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't Lauren so amazing, you guys?
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: I know you got so much out of that episode.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Since recording, Lauren's decided to step away from readings from now because she's diving into a new business venture that is absolutely incredible.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: And she wanted me to tell you guys you don't need a medium.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: You already know.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I know you want to know more of what she means.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: So she's gonna come back on the pod.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna chat with her again.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be incredible.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_00: She's gonna share more about her career pivots and this new business that she's just built completely from her heart.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait for you to learn more about it.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: So make sure you stay tuned for that episode.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be coming out soon.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you again so much for being here.