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Murder In Moscow: Kaylee, Maddie And The Final Phone Calls · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Newsweek
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  Speaker 1: has an article out that's giving us some more information,
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  Speaker 1: and filling in a couple of more blanks at least,
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  Speaker 1: about what went down in Moscow, Idaho. Now of course,
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  Speaker 1: we still don't have a suspect, we don't have any
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  Speaker 1: person of interest, but the police have ruled out one
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  Speaker 1: person at least, or at least say he's not a
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  Speaker 1: suspect at this time, and that's the person that was
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  Speaker 1: in the hoodie near the food truck. And I guess
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  Speaker 1: there was an ongoing opinion amongst some of the mavens
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  Speaker 1: that run around and call themselves detectives that they thought
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  Speaker 1: it was this guy. Well, the police have ruled him out.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also a few other tidbits that I found interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into this article and let's get caught
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  Speaker 1: up real quick and see where things stand. This article
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  Speaker 1: was published by Newsweek.com. Headline, Idaho Student Murders Live Updates.
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  Speaker 1: Case Using Most Resources Prosecutor Has Ever Seen. This article
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  Speaker 1: was authored by Lauren Giela and Megan Ruse. Case Using
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  Speaker 1: Most Resources Prosecutor Has Ever Seen. Lotta County Prosecutor Bill
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  Speaker 1: Thompson said, told the Spokane, Washington-based news station KXLY that
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  Speaker 1: the murders last weekend of four University of Idaho students
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  Speaker 1: involves a volume of investigative resources he hasn't seen before
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  Speaker 1: in the three decades he spent in the prosecutor's office.
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  Speaker 1: So that signals to me, at least, that they're working
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  Speaker 1: overtime here to figure out what went on and to
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  Speaker 1: bring somebody to justice. The city of Moscow Police Department,
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  Speaker 1: the Idaho State Police and the FBI are all working
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  Speaker 1: on the case. These law enforcement agencies have brought in
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  Speaker 1: probably more resources than I've ever seen in my 30
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  Speaker 1: years in Lata County. The Idaho prosecutor told the station
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  Speaker 1: on Friday. Well, let's hope that that bears some fruit
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of the family members don't seem to
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  Speaker 1: think that this investigation is going in the right direction. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there, I'm not part of the investigation, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm only curating the story. For those of you
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  Speaker 1: who are just joining me here on the podcast, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a journalist or one of these people who has
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of inside sources or anything like that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going along with the story, the same way we
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  Speaker 1: did with Gabby Petito, the same way we do with
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  Speaker 1: all of these other stories, and try and put the
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  Speaker 1: pieces together based on what the authorities are telling us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, obviously a little bit of speculation goes along
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  Speaker 1: with that. But as far as major speculation on who
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  Speaker 1: did it or theories about who did it, I don't
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  Speaker 1: play those games. Because I don't have the information at hand.
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  Speaker 1: And this is serious business, right? We're not out here
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  Speaker 1: playing a game of Clue. So it's important to follow
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  Speaker 1: along and go on what the authorities are telling you. But...
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  Speaker 1: I will say I have ran into plenty of times
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  Speaker 1: investigators that really don't seem to have a clue. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but when
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  Speaker 1: the families are saying they're not comfortable or they don't
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  Speaker 1: like the direction that the investigation is going, that always
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  Speaker 1: makes me sit up and take notice of what's going
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  Speaker 1: on and maybe even be a little bit more critical.
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  Speaker 1: Thompson said he and the responding agencies don't know why
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  Speaker 1: it happened and whoever is responsible is still out there.
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  Speaker 1: He said he is hoping to find answers soon. Police
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  Speaker 1: had not named any suspects or persons of interest by
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  Speaker 1: Friday evening, though they did share an updated map and
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  Speaker 1: timeline showing four students' movements in the hours before the murders.
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  Speaker 1: Police asked anyone who believes they may have information to
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  Speaker 1: contact law enforcement. Thompson told the station that events that
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  Speaker 1: occurred before the students' bodies were found was crucial information
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  Speaker 1: for investigators working on the case. And that's just common sense.
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  Speaker 1: Like we said earlier, when this all first started, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to rebuild the whole entire day, basically,
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  Speaker 1: of these poor kids. Where did they go? Who did
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  Speaker 1: they have contact with? Who did they run into? And
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  Speaker 1: later on in this story, or in this article, there's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting bit of information towards that end. And we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to wait and see a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more about that. But it's one of the most interesting
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  Speaker 1: tidbits that we have received so far. Police look for
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  Speaker 1: footage near a food truck, according to report. Police in
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  Speaker 1: Moscow are reportedly searching for surveillance footage in the area
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  Speaker 1: where two University of Idaho students were spotted in the
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  Speaker 1: hours before they were stabbed to death. On Friday afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: the city of Moscow Police Department released an updated map
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  Speaker 1: and timeline that said two of the victims, Kaylee Goncalves
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  Speaker 1: and Madison Mogan, were at a food truck along South
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  Speaker 1: Main Street at about 1.40 a.m. on November 13th. Audrey
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  Speaker 1: Conklin of Fox News reported that officers were visiting stores
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  Speaker 1: in the area near the food truck to inquire about
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  Speaker 1: the existence of surveillance footage that might show the movements
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  Speaker 1: Goncalves and Mogan made that night. And there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a whole bunch of this. My guess is that
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  Speaker 1: they're going after like ring footage as well, personal surveillance footage.
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  Speaker 1: If people were taking videos, you know, of their friends,
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  Speaker 1: people live streaming, you know how kids roll in college towns.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing there was some live streaming going on.
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  Speaker 1: And the police are looking for all of that so
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  Speaker 1: they can build this foundation of an investigation by recreating
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  Speaker 1: the steps of these kids. Audrey Conklin of Fox News
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  Speaker 1: reported that officers were visiting stores in the area near
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  Speaker 1: the food truck to inquire about the existence of surveillance
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  Speaker 1: footage that might show the movements Goncalves and Mogan made
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  Speaker 1: that night. And again, I'm sure they're looking for anything.
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  Speaker 1: A Twitch video from the food truck showed Goncalves and
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  Speaker 1: Mogan there early on November 13th. A man dressed in
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  Speaker 1: a dark jacket and white or light-colored hoodie could be
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  Speaker 1: seen in the food truck's video. Idaho State Police told
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  Speaker 1: the Boise-based television news station, KTVB, that officers have spoken
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  Speaker 1: with the man, seen in the video as part of
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  Speaker 1: a standard action, and said he has not been identified
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  Speaker 1: as either suspect or person of interest in the case.
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  Speaker 1: And that's interesting because there were a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: talking on different forums and stuff and throwing around some
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  Speaker 1: ideas that this might be the person who did it.
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  Speaker 1: And I always find that to be a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a foolish task to even engage in or a waste
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  Speaker 1: of time until we have some kind of concrete information.
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  Speaker 1: then I don't see the purpose in trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: point out people who might not have anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with it and cause them all kinds of chaos in
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  Speaker 1: their life. And that kind of stuff does happen. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there that shoot from
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  Speaker 1: the hip without any kind of information, without any kind
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  Speaker 1: of evidence, and just go hard in the paint. And
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that explode way too many times in people's faces,
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  Speaker 1: so I like to reserve my big fat giant opinions
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  Speaker 1: until we have some evidence to base those opinions on.
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  Speaker 1: Because remember, the most important thing is justice for these kids.
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  Speaker 1: But in every case like this, some people just go
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  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy and get real wild with their speculation and
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of it. So this is the part
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  Speaker 1: of the story that I thought was the most interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And a part of... the overall story that might be
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  Speaker 1: something that leads somewhere, to be honest with you. Victims
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  Speaker 1: reportedly called the same person several times. Now, why would
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  Speaker 1: they call the same person several times right before they
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  Speaker 1: were killed? And hopefully this person is being brought in
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  Speaker 1: and talked to by the police, because I would think
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  Speaker 1: that if these girls are calling you that many times...
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  Speaker 1: right before this all goes down, that you're somebody that
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  Speaker 1: needs to be talked to, at the very least to
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  Speaker 1: be ruled out or whatever, right? The sister of one
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  Speaker 1: University of Idaho student found dead last weekend said several
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  Speaker 1: calls were placed to the same person early on November 13th,
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  Speaker 1: the day four students' bodies were found. Olivia Goncalves said
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  Speaker 1: during an interview with Inside Edition that she is looking
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  Speaker 1: for information that could help with the case on her own.
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  Speaker 1: We are not getting any answers and we are not
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  Speaker 1: going to settle for that, she said. So this is
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  Speaker 1: what I mean when I say it's concerning. When the
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  Speaker 1: family members aren't getting answers and they're not being assisted
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  Speaker 1: in the manner that they should be, it's always concerning
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  Speaker 1: about one of these investigations. Goncalves describes seeking out surveillance
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  Speaker 1: footage near the home where his sister Kaylee lived. She
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  Speaker 1: also described a flurry of calls that she said were
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  Speaker 1: made from her sister's phone to a person named Jack
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  Speaker 1: between 2 and 3 a.m. on November 13th. So as
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  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, that's the first bit of real
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  Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence with some legs here. Something that might stand up.
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  Speaker 1: Because this sounds real weird. Who's this Jack guy and
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  Speaker 1: why were they calling him so many times? What's the deal?
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  Speaker 1: What was going on? John Calvis said, Mogan was also
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  Speaker 1: among the students found dead later that day. So who
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  Speaker 1: is this Jack character? And have the police brought him
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  Speaker 1: in to ask him what the deal was? Hey, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: any idea why these girls who were murdered were calling
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  Speaker 1: you right before this all went down? And anything you'd
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  Speaker 1: like to talk to us about, pal? with all of
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  Speaker 1: the articles we've read, this is the one thing, the
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  Speaker 1: one piece of information, the one bit of circumstantial evidence.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't prove anything, right? Could have just
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  Speaker 1: been who knows what the phone calls were for, but
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  Speaker 1: that has to be figured out. Law enforcement has to
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  Speaker 1: dig into that and try and make heads or tails
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  Speaker 1: from what these phone calls were or what they contained
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  Speaker 1: and what they were talking about and why so many
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  Speaker 1: phone calls were fired out to this same person. That's
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  Speaker 1: not normal. Unless, of course, there's some sort of altercation
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  Speaker 1: or there's an argument or a fight and someone keeps
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  Speaker 1: hanging up on the other person. Certainly seems to me
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  Speaker 1: that of all the things we've talked about so far,
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  Speaker 1: certainly more than the guy in the surveillance video by
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  Speaker 1: the food truck anyway. I think that this would be
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  Speaker 1: something that should be pursued and pursued vigorously. And why
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't the cops be pursuing this? That's weird. So there
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  Speaker 1: you have it, folks. That's where things stand as of
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  Speaker 1: right now, as we're recording this at 3.37 p.m. Pacific
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  Speaker 1: Standard Time on November 18th. And again, this is an
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  Speaker 1: evolving story with all kinds of twists and turns so far.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll continue to do our best to add these
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  Speaker 1: little updates here and these new tidbits that we come
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  Speaker 1: across because I feel like out of everything we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about in the past couple of days, past few days
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  Speaker 1: talking about this, I think that this is the most,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say important part of evidence, but
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  Speaker 1: the one that might lead to something, right? Out of
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  Speaker 1: the things that we have seen anyway. Now, obviously, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the police have and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the FBI has. But the things that we've heard about,
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  Speaker 1: I would think that a phone conversation or phone calls
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  Speaker 1: made repeatedly to the same number over and over again
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  Speaker 1: from two of the girls who were just murdered would
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  Speaker 1: be something that would be very important or at the
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  Speaker 1: very least pretty crucial. So we'll see what happens with it.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully it does lead to the person who did
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  Speaker 1: this or the persons because it's time for them to
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  Speaker 1: get arrested and it's time for them to face justice.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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