Latest / The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon / David Kaplan talks Bulls changes, Blackhawks & Cubs, Bill Seals on the Cyclones & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports
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- 0:10Hour #2 Mallory Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
- 0:13Trenton, Ken with you until two Bill Seals covers Iowa State.
- 0:17He joins us at the bottom of the hour.
- 0:19Let's get to the cap, man. Busy times in Chicago.
- 0:22Hello, Capper. Trenton, Ken, How are you, pal?
- 0:25I'm great man, how you doing? Doing OK, A lot of ground to
- 0:28cover with you, including, I guess we'll start with the
- 0:31Bulls. I know it's baseball season, but
- 0:32the Bulls are getting a lot of publicity because of their head
- 0:36coach and the firings in the front office and how bad they
- 0:38are, et cetera. So a lot of ground to cover
- 0:41Bulls wise. But the Billy Donovan thing,
- 0:43Cap, I like Malone getting the North Carolina job I did.
- 0:47I love the fact his connection to the Joker and his agent and
- 0:51with all the EUR coming as we saw the difference that it made
- 0:53in Underwood's Illinois group. But Billy Donovan, do you think
- 0:57had North Carolina wanted him, was willing to wait till the end
- 1:01of the season? Do you think he'd be in Chapel
- 1:04Hill? They did want him.
- 1:06He was absolutely their choice over Michael Malone and he did
- 1:11not want the job, period. He wants to know part of college
- 1:14basketball. A lot of guys that I'm friendly
- 1:17with that I know a friend of mine was playing a joke on Jay
- 1:21Wright and he said, hey Jay, I just talked to XYZ school.
- 1:26They will give you, they think they can win the title next year
- 1:30with all the NIL they have and the players coming back.
- 1:33They'll give you 500 million for two years.
- 1:36And he looked at him and went tell them 500 billion and I'll
- 1:39still say no. He's done.
- 1:42So why? How come?
- 1:43How come these? Guys hate the business.
- 1:45Yeah, well, I mean, now everybody's got a general
- 1:47manager, I'm guessing. I mean, you, you might have
- 1:50played that role had you stuck in the in the basketball
- 1:53coaching realm. Glad you didn't worked out very
- 1:55well for you. But it's different, right?
- 1:57I mean, you don't have to go in the living rooms.
- 1:59It's all based on, you know, how much your war chest has in a lot
- 2:02of ways. There's no question like if I
- 2:05took a mid major job, I had a school reach out to me.
- 2:10I know the AD well and he said would you get back in this?
- 2:13You got a lot of business contacts.
- 2:15All that he said, are you out of your mind?
- 2:18So you know, I wake up early, I go do my radio show.
- 2:22I just got done on the treadmill before you called.
- 2:25I'm actually doing this interview sitting in a sauna,
- 2:29and then I'm going to take a shower, grab my lunch with me
- 2:33and head to my YouTube studio and have fun with my business
- 2:35partner, Ryan Mcguffey. And we're going to watch the
- 2:38White Sox game. And then I'll watch the Sox game
- 2:40with my son tonight. Do you think I want to be in a
- 2:43car driving to, let's call it, Decatur, IL to convince some kid
- 2:49that I got a booster who'll give him half $1,000,000 if he'll
- 2:51come play for me for one year? No chair.
- 2:55Billy Donovan sticking around to the Bulls hasn't been a ton of
- 2:59success. They're mired in that just under
- 3:01500 get to the play in but can't actually get into play offs as
- 3:04one what one play off game during his career in Chicago is
- 3:08he going to get a choice a say and who the new how the new
- 3:13front office is going to. Look, good question.
- 3:16I think he will get a say. I think he'll be part of him.
- 3:19John Paxton, Michael and Jerry Reinsdorf.
- 3:23I think that's who's going to make this decision now, that's
- 3:27if Billy says he's coming back, he's under contract.
- 3:31He has not said yes, I'll be back and I am staying in
- 3:35Chicago. He said I want to meet with
- 3:37Michael and Jerry and find out where's their head, what's the
- 3:41direction. I'm not looking forward to like
- 3:444 years of rebuilding. I'm not doing it.
- 3:47He just lost his dad like a few days after that.
- 3:50His wife lost her mom and his mom is not well.
- 3:55He's got all the money he's ever going to need.
- 3:57It's not like he needs the job to pay his mortgage and if he
- 4:01sits out for a year, is with the family and then, oh I don't
- 4:05know, the Orlando job opens since his family lives in
- 4:08Gainesville, FL. Maybe that's a move he wants to
- 4:12make. He likes it here.
- 4:14He likes it in the NBA. He had zero interest in going to
- 4:18college and he had the biggest job courting him in North
- 4:23Carolina. And he said, no, I'm not
- 4:24interested. So I think Billy wants to come
- 4:28back. But, you know, here's my take on
- 4:31this. I love Billy, you know that I
- 4:34like him very much. But if you're going to kick him
- 4:38upstairs and make him the president and he's going to run
- 4:41everything, then they should have said that yesterday.
- 4:43If you're going to go out and try and hire the best executive
- 4:47you can find, let's call him Bob Myers.
- 4:50And Bob Myers says, well, I love Billy, he's a great guy, but I
- 4:53want my own coach. I thought, if I come back in and
- 4:57I'm hiring Trent Condon as my coach, guess what?
- 5:01You're. Screwed.
- 5:01You're going to hire. But yeah, you probably get your
- 5:03head kicked. But if you, if you're hiring,
- 5:08we'll call him Bob Myers, you have to let him run the team how
- 5:11he sees fit or why should he take the job.
- 5:15Yeah, fair, fair points, Cap. If if coaching or front office
- 5:18isn't in in his future, does TV make sense to you for him, for
- 5:23Donovan? No, no, absolutely not.
- 5:27No, he wants to coach. He doesn't want to be an
- 5:30executive. He wants to coach.
- 5:33And so my thought is, OK, Billy comes back as a saying who the
- 5:39new basketball boss is. And it's understood whoever that
- 5:43guy is, he's working with Billy. There could be worse things then
- 5:48they should have said that yesterday.
- 5:50That's my problem with how Michael handled it.
- 5:52If you don't think that, you know, you can work with Billy
- 5:55Donovan, then you're not the right fit for us.
- 5:57That's not how it should be done.
- 5:59You should hire the best executive regardless of cost.
- 6:04Your franchise is worth $7 billion, six billion.
- 6:08So the 10 or 12 or 15,000,000 you're going to spend on the
- 6:13brightest mind you can get, you should go find basketball field
- 6:17and go guess what? Walk in here.
- 6:18Please fix this. I talked to somebody.
- 6:21He's a huge name. He's not coming here.
- 6:24I said can they turn this quick? He said, yeah, I've actually
- 6:27watched a bunch of their games on tape.
- 6:30He said you can absolutely turn that thing in two years, not to
- 6:33win a title, but to be a contender in the playoffs
- 6:36because you're in the East. It's nowhere near as difficult
- 6:39as the West. You have the most cap space this
- 6:41summer. You sign guys to shorter deal,
- 6:44like one year deals, and then in a year when the class is better,
- 6:49those guys are gone. If you love them, resign them,
- 6:51and if you don't love them, move on.
- 6:54But he said you have to be willing to blow up the roster
- 6:57right now with anybody that doesn't makes sense and
- 7:01understand next year could be a bad year.
- 7:03But if it is, you have a really good draft pick, You got your
- 7:07pick this year, you have 65 million in cap space.
- 7:10If you do things right, yeah, two years, you should be
- 7:13contending, at least go the playoffs.
- 7:16Get back to that level and then build from there and maybe a
- 7:19ping pong ball will go their way.
- 7:20Coming up here with the draft lottery, what we're talking
- 7:24winter sports cap. It is now 5 consecutive years
- 7:28without the playoffs for the Blackhawks.
- 7:30They have won one playoff series in total over the last decade
- 7:34plus. Now since there's Stanley Cup
- 7:36win back in 2015, they're third. In five years.
- 7:40Said Said. It's been awful, yeah.
- 7:42I mean, talk about a rudderless ship.
- 7:44I am very outside the realm here.
- 7:45But it just, it's shocking again, felt like, well, maybe
- 7:48they're starting to turn the corner right back to the bottom
- 7:50of the standings this year. How's the Yanks with Blackhawks
- 7:53fans? I think Blackhawks fans
- 7:57understood what a rebuild this was.
- 8:02And for Kyle Davidson, who I like, I think he's a good
- 8:05executive. I think he's brought a lot of
- 8:07good young talent to this franchise.
- 8:10But I would also tell him as his boss, OK, you've had some time
- 8:15now here we've got good players, Connor Bedard, Frank Nazer, all
- 8:19these guys. You better make the.
- 8:21Playoffs, yeah. Yeah, they got a good team.
- 8:24Like, I'm cool if he didn't make it this year.
- 8:27I'm not cool if he doesn't get in next year.
- 8:29Yeah. Solve their goaltending with
- 8:31Spencer Knight. Looks like he can play.
- 8:33I'm with you, Kappus. You don't want to get off the
- 8:35part time for the Blackhawks. It's unfortunate they play in
- 8:37the toughest division in hockey, you know, with Dallas and with
- 8:40Minnesota, with Colorado and maybe another year with
- 8:43Winnipeg. We'll see.
- 8:44All right, let's talk baseball cap.
- 8:46The Cubs, I hated their start. I hated the way that they played
- 8:51on Monday. It was great to see the bats
- 8:53come alive yesterday. Good to see Assad, see what he
- 8:56did. Some guys that are really
- 8:58struggling in the batter's box got it together yesterday, at
- 9:01least for 9 innings. Want to see him do it again
- 9:03today. But your thoughts and we'll get
- 9:06to the, you know, the Kate Horton, etcetera, But how
- 9:08important was that win yesterday just for the confidence in that
- 9:11clubhouse? It was huge.
- 9:13You had to win that game. You absolutely had to win that
- 9:18game yesterday. And they did.
- 9:20They were able to go out, find a way to win the game.
- 9:23And now you need to take the series today.
- 9:25Like Assad was really good yesterday.
- 9:27He had a no hitter in the fifth. He pitched you into the 6th.
- 9:31But I'm just telling you, you cannot look at your three games
- 9:35back right now. You're hanging around.
- 9:37You're fine. You better not wake up and go,
- 9:40oh, God, what are we, seven and a half, eight back?
- 9:44That's really tough to recover from without your ace, Kate
- 9:47Horton. So, yeah, I think they have a
- 9:50really good team. I think they're going to the
- 9:52playoffs. What do you think they are right
- 9:54now in Vegas to just make the playoffs?
- 9:56Oh. That's a good one.
- 9:59I looked this up before I came out with you.
- 10:01Really to make the playoffs. And right now, looks like
- 10:05Brewers are running away, with the division still wild.
- 10:07Card gets you in the playoffs, yeah.
- 10:09Tied at 8:00 and 3:00. -120 No. They're not minus.
- 10:13Oh, absolutely. You think they still are?
- 10:15Yeah. They're a favorite to win.
- 10:16Maybe they are. What is a cap?
- 10:17Even money. They are -110 to make the
- 10:20playoffs right in the middle. How about that?
- 10:24Would you bite? Made you make that bet.
- 10:26Laid buck 10I. Probably would, yeah.
- 10:28I there's too much talent there for them to not make the
- 10:32playoffs. So I'm pretty confident that
- 10:34they will make the play offs. Now if you tell me, God forbid
- 10:38they lose though another starter, well then then we then
- 10:42you're in real trouble. But if you keep what you've got,
- 10:45you get Boyd back in, let's call it 3 weeks and then you add end
- 10:50of May, beginning of June, Justin Seal.
- 10:53And then I haven't seen Jackson Wiggins pitch since spring
- 10:56training. I know how talented he is is.
- 11:00Have you seen him pitch for Iowa?
- 11:02No, and I'm watching the Iowa Cubs play live as we speak and
- 11:06he's not pitching today. Somebody else.
- 11:08But no if you tell. Me.
- 11:10Well, I'll get. You know what?
- 11:10I'll get Tommy Birch on and I'll tweet you what Birchy says.
- 11:14Yeah, let me know, because if he's good enough to be able to
- 11:20come in and pitch in the rotation, I'm not telling you
- 11:22he's going to be Cade Horton, but he's not far behind.
- 11:27His stuff is electric, throws 98 and he's got a dirty breaking
- 11:32ball, but he's never pitched in a big league.
- 11:33So not expecting Doc Gooden to roll in here, did did he?
- 11:38But I think, I think they have a chance to be OK.
- 11:41Did. Weakens have.
- 11:42I know Wharton had some injury concerns prior to this being
- 11:47shut down from the game in Cleveland when he came out over
- 11:50the weekend. Is Weakens got a clean bill of
- 11:53health. Do you know as he's made his way
- 11:54through the Miners? He's had a little bit of stuff,
- 11:57but I don't think anything, you know, call me Johnish.
- 12:00Gotcha. So Horton.
- 12:03We'll see. That 90 to 1 ticket that got at
- 12:05Circa? Not looking very good, but Nope.
- 12:08That's gone, yeah. If we could RIP that one up, you
- 12:11know, Cap I'll looking towards the future and and arm injuries.
- 12:15The way that just things go overall.
- 12:17This is not a Kate Horton thing. It's just baseball in general,
- 12:19these young fireballers. It almost feels like you have
- 12:22to, hey, if a guy throws this hard, you're going to have to
- 12:24anticipate he's going to have some kind of arm trouble at some
- 12:27point and he's probably going to have to shut it down.
- 12:28Do you almost in the back of your mind when you see a young
- 12:31gun and you see him throwing like that, just anticipate,
- 12:33well, it's going to happen at some point.
- 12:34Hopefully it's in one of our down years that it actually
- 12:37plays out that way. Yeah, but I don't want to look
- 12:40back and go, yeah, well, that was a down year because this
- 12:43team's too talented to have a down year like this.
- 12:46So he's had a Tommy John before. This is his second one.
- 12:51Have you talked, have you talked to anybody about that, about
- 12:55that again, have you talked to anybody about that guy's coming
- 12:57a second Tommy John? Is it likely that he can never
- 13:00be a full time starter? Is it more realistic?
- 13:03Maybe he has to turn into a bullpen on any conversations
- 13:05about that? No, no.
- 13:08There have been guys who've had multiple Tommy Johns and have
- 13:11been able to navigate it. So we're going to see.
- 13:14But you know, last year he has the rib thing.
- 13:16He had I think a next thing a few years ago in the minors.
- 13:20I mean, at some point you got to pitch, you just do.
- 13:23You've got to be available or you teams got to move on and if
- 13:28you show up, great. If not, we can't count on you,
- 13:30you know. Shane Smith, Opening Day started
- 13:32for the White Sox, started yesterday.
- 13:35I didn't get out of the what do you get third out of the third
- 13:38inning? Gave up a ton of what he.
- 13:40Got into the into. The fourth, Was that what it
- 13:42was? Yeah, his.
- 13:43Stuff yesterday was filthy struck out the the 1st 5 outs he
- 13:47recorded were were strikeouts He struck out eight but he walked
- 13:51five so and didn't give up a run and only one hit but his command
- 13:56not good and his first two starts his ERA was north of 18
- 14:01so he was an. Improvement.
- 14:02Especially command, yeah. I see me.
- 14:05He's pitched 8 innings roughly. He's got 11 strikeouts, so that
- 14:08that stuff is still there. So how long will he stay down,
- 14:11do you think, Cap? That's a really good question.
- 14:14I mean, his next appearance won't be for five days down in
- 14:17the minors. But those that next appearance,
- 14:21you better not look at the minor league numbers on MILB and go,
- 14:25oh boy, walk. How many?
- 14:27Yeah, he better get that cleaned up quickly.
- 14:30Shuffling. Of the bullpen also happening
- 14:32with the White Sox. They're sending guys down.
- 14:34I mean, it just feels like a bullpen for a rebuilding team.
- 14:37You're just trying to see what sticks at this point, right?
- 14:39You're going to take some Flyers, some Rule five guys.
- 14:41I think that was the latest that was called up.
- 14:43That's what you're doing when you're piercing together a
- 14:44bullpen in this step of a rebuild, right?
- 14:47Cap. Correct.
- 14:49A hundred, 100%. They are not going to spend some
- 14:53crazy amount of money on high end bullpen guys.
- 14:56But you know, that's not always the way it is either because
- 15:00look at Bill Maiton who the Cubs signed to a two year deal.
- 15:03We got three or third year option.
- 15:05He has not pitched well. No, he's not look good at all.
- 15:09Didn't pitch well yesterday, gave up a couple runs.
- 15:12So it doesn't necessarily mean because you spent money.
- 15:17I remember having a great conversation over a beer with
- 15:21the late Kevin Towers, the former general manager of the
- 15:26Padres. Great dude, Great dude.
- 15:29And I'll tell you a fast story you'll get a laugh out of I'm.
- 15:32I didn't know him at all. I'm sitting at the baseball
- 15:35winner meetings the year a rod signed with the Rangers.
- 15:39So we're going back, what, 25 years ago?
- 15:42Yeah, we're sitting at the Anatole Hotel, the Lowe's
- 15:46Anatole in Dallas. I get done on my show.
- 15:50A good friend of mine, Tom Keegan, who's a longtime writer,
- 15:54says, hey, let's grab a beer. This guy walks over.
- 15:56Hey Tom, I don't know the guy at all.
- 15:58He said, you want to join us? Sure.
- 16:00He said my name is Kevin. I said my name is Cal.
- 16:03He said, oh Cal, where you from? Chicago.
- 16:05He said, oh Cubs or White Sox. I said Cubs.
- 16:09He goes oh what 35 year old washed up guy you can overpay
- 16:13this year. And I looked at him and I said
- 16:17where are you from? He said San Diego.
- 16:20Again, I have no idea who this guy is.
- 16:23And I said San Diego, I'd love to meet the idiot general
- 16:27manager they got there. Tony Gwynn keeps getting fatter
- 16:31and he keeps giving him more money.
- 16:33And. He looks at me, goes Kevin
- 16:34Towers, general manager, San Diego.
- 16:38I'm like, OK, want to get away, like Southwest Airlines would
- 16:42say. And he laughed.
- 16:44And until he sadly got cancer and died, I would see him at
- 16:48spring training, Cubs playing the Padres, or I would see him.
- 16:52I think he worked for the Giants at the end of his career.
- 16:55And I would see him. He'd be like, hey, how's it
- 16:58going over there, Cap? He's like, yeah, you got me,
- 17:01Kevin. Good.
- 17:03Stuff cap. Apparently the bears will know
- 17:06within two weeks where they're going to call home.
- 17:09Heard that. Some other.
- 17:09Yeah. Is that what?
- 17:10Is that what you're hearing? I mean, I've heard this for
- 17:14months. I've heard this for a year.
- 17:16So maybe, maybe, I mean, I'm going to make a call today to a
- 17:23politician here in Illinois who's intimately involved and
- 17:27just find out, are you guys going to screw this up?
- 17:30What's going to happen? We'll see one.
- 17:32More Angel Reese Two years in Chicago.
- 17:35It is over. Does anybody care over there?
- 17:39Who? Who?
- 17:42I think you nailed it, yeah. No, we have not discussed it at
- 17:45all. I'm not a fan.
- 17:47I'm not telling you she's not a really talented rebounder.
- 17:51The drama that came with her and not my cup of tea.
- 17:57So I'm a I'm a Caitlin Clark fan and it has nothing to do with
- 18:01Caitlin against Angel. I just didn't like Angel the way
- 18:05she carried herself. Very talented player.
- 18:07I'm not telling you that she isn't a winning style player.
- 18:11She rebounds and she plays hard. Just not my cup of tea.
- 18:15I'm glad she's out of town. David Kaplan ESPN 1000 course
- 18:19caps YouTube channel going great guns great stuff cap thank you
- 18:22pal appreciate you coming on We will talk to you in seven days
- 18:25Thank you I look. Look forward to it.
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- 19:19Good stuff out of the cap, man. All right, Bill Seals coming up
- 19:22next. We'll talk Iowa State related
- 19:26topics with Bill Seals. Trent's plays of the day.
- 19:29They're coming up next. What have you got tonight?
- 19:32Just baseball. For the most part, I mean, I'm
- 19:34looking, there's a lot of day games today, there are.
- 19:37And I was looking just took a peek at the NBA slate.
- 19:40It's so ridiculous. The Pistons are favored by 20
- 19:431/2 about. To say some of these points
- 19:44spreads this late in the season are ridiculous.
- 19:47The. Nuggets are favored by 23 1/2
- 19:49against Memphis. It's just how you bet this when
- 19:54we get to the playoffs, it's which is.
- 19:55What When? When does that start?
- 19:56Next week or the week? We're at the end of the regular
- 19:58season, right this. Week's the end of the regular
- 20:00season, so. We'll have playoffs next week.
- 20:02We'll have the, of course, opening Round 9 versus 10 will
- 20:04open things up, kind of. Like that over the last couple
- 20:07years, you know what at. 1st I'm like what are they trying to do
- 20:09here? It felt very convoluted but
- 20:12kind. Of forced, but I kind of liked
- 20:14it in the end and. On top of it, the top ten teams
- 20:16have been locked for weeks now. I mean, there is no drama even
- 20:21yes, for the for the teams that are get there.
- 20:22Well, I just happened to take a peek at it last night and what I
- 20:25did, I was really surprised. So the number 10 seed in the
- 20:28East right now is Miami. They're up 10 games on the 11th
- 20:31place team, the Heat. So that's been wrapped up for a
- 20:34while. The Warriors are the 10th place
- 20:35team. They are currently up 9 1/2
- 20:38games on the 11th place team. So we've known the 10 teams that
- 20:41are going to be evolved for weeks now.
- 20:44The Timberwolves with their win last night, locked in an
- 20:46official playoff bid as they locked up to six seed with that
- 20:49victory last night. So they're going to play nobody
- 20:51tonight. They're they go to a big
- 20:53underdog now against Orlando, who I still think may be
- 20:57fighting for position. I'll I'll wait to the playoffs
- 21:00and just these teams that the non trying like can they just
- 21:04give them like practice jerseys, don't let them wear even real
- 21:06NBA jerseys. Just give them a plain white
- 21:08T-shirt maybe? Take it off the boards too in
- 21:10Vegas. I mean, these point spreads are
- 21:11ridiculous. I'm guessing the minimum's got
- 21:14to be pretty low on these games I would think, right?
- 21:17When you think of put together just money line parlay with a
- 21:19couple of these games. With the big favourites you mean
- 21:22stack 4/5 of them together? Bet 2.
- 21:24Million to win 10,000 yeah no. Never bet a lot to make a little
- 21:28125. Bill Seals coming up next latest
- 21:31on Iowa State. Has there really have been
- 21:33accommodating to the media over this spring football practice
- 21:36session as opposed to previous years?
- 21:38Hats off to Coach Rogers and his staff for making that possible.
- 21:42Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
- 21:51Right, coming up on 130 Miller in Condon, Iowa Sports Radio
- 21:54Network trends, plays of the day still to come.
- 21:57Kyle Green joins the boys this afternoon.
- 22:00I want to say I think 330 is what Sean told me.
- 22:05If you're listening, Sean or Lucas, please text me and then
- 22:08coach Henderson tomorrow from Drake.
- 22:10But today Kyle Green, who newly minted you and I Panther head
- 22:14basketball coach will join the boys this afternoon.
- 22:17Bill Seals joins us right now to talk to my with state Bill
- 22:20Trenton. Ken, thank you for coming on.
- 22:22Really appreciate it. Bill is like, like you, media
- 22:25that's on site and fans, they're trying to get to know this team
- 22:30as best as they can and they're doing so through the media
- 22:33availabilities, which as I just mentioned, going in the break as
- 22:36opposed to Matt Campbell's era, it seems like Jimmy Rogers is
- 22:40making it much easier for the media to provide the fan base
- 22:45with what's going on, which I got to assume is greatly
- 22:47appreciated knowing, you know, the newness of this roster,
- 22:51etcetera. Yeah, it really is Kenny,
- 22:54appreciate you guys having me on and sounds like we might even
- 22:58get practice access in the fall, which is what certainly unheard
- 23:03of. Yes, so good, good sign there.
- 23:06But yeah, it was, it was nice to get out there and put eyes on
- 23:11this team for the first time yesterday.
- 23:13We got about 1/2 hour at the very beginning of practice.
- 23:17So, you know, one-on-one, seven on seven team drill.
- 23:22It was team drills. It was mainly just the the pre
- 23:26practice stretching and just individual workouts.
- 23:30I'm sure a lot of Cyclone fans would like to know that some of
- 23:34the first drills that they ran were special teams drills.
- 23:38So always, always a good sign. They were wrapping that right
- 23:42off the bat yesterday and that was certainly noted.
- 23:46Can you glean much out of, hey, this team looks pretty good or
- 23:50this team, they look the part at minimum.
- 23:52Again, not knowing many of these guys, hardly any of these guys.
- 23:56When you're sitting there watching, does it strike you?
- 23:58Hey, this is looks like Iowa State football teams looked here
- 24:00recently. Great.
- 24:02Well, I think that you know, a lot of these offensive lineman
- 24:07that they that they were well and defensive line too.
- 24:09They recruited from FCS. They got some power four guys
- 24:16that came in, you know, Jake Taylor, Oklahoma DE, Andre
- 24:20Carter, a couple of those guys, Oh, you and and Auburn.
- 24:24So a couple of those guys really look the part.
- 24:27But you know, there are some guys maybe a little on the
- 24:30shorter range than what we had seen under Matt Campbell.
- 24:34You know, a lot of these guys are are seniors too.
- 24:36So they were recruited in a very short time period.
- 24:40They, you know, they like what they saw on tape and, and had
- 24:43them on campus and they committed.
- 24:45So I mean, it wasn't a long drawn out process.
- 24:48And you know, with a lot of these guys there wasn't like,
- 24:52you know, looking well, this guy is this tall, he's got pretty
- 24:55good projectability. We can put 30 or 40 lbs on him.
- 24:58A lot of these guys are seniors. They are kind of what they are
- 25:02and they fill the roster. One thing I will say is, is that
- 25:07you're both these lines. They look to really have a mean
- 25:09streak to them. And I think you're seeing with
- 25:13Tyler roll on the offensive side, the violence, the
- 25:17intensity there that that that group's going to play with and
- 25:20then on defense with Bobbitt and we we saw how good that unit was
- 25:24at Washington state. So I think out of these guys,
- 25:27these one year, these kind of these nomads, the mercenaries,
- 25:31whatever you want to call them, I, I think they're going to get
- 25:33every accounts that they can out of these guys and, and put
- 25:37together A-Team this year. What about receivers?
- 25:40I believe Derek Sherman met with you guys today.
- 25:42Is there? Was there a name or two or a
- 25:44quote or two that stuck with you regarding Iowa State's new
- 25:48receiving corps? Yeah, Amari Hayes is one of
- 25:51them, Cody Jackson, a couple of transfer guy.
- 25:56Evan Boyd was was was another one that was brought up.
- 26:00Those are kind of some of the top guys that they got out of
- 26:04the portal. Dom Overby was a guy and we had
- 26:07him as one of the players and the availability.
- 26:11He's the guy. I think we saw him start off so
- 26:14well last year, the game over in Ireland and he talked about that
- 26:19and kind of disappeared from there.
- 26:20What that experience was like, why, you know, why come back and
- 26:24and got into that a little bit with him.
- 26:26But Overby's been another one that they've mentioned early.
- 26:30I think the versatility of this group, they've got some guys on
- 26:34the taller end of the spectrum, Certainly Overbeast, one of
- 26:37those, Evan Boyd, he's an impressive looking guy at
- 26:41probably 6-3 ish. And then they've got some of the
- 26:44shorter guys, the Burners, the spot type players.
- 26:47So I think they were happy with the mix that they put together
- 26:50there. Also got to hear from the
- 26:53safeties coach, Pete Menage. What did you take away there?
- 26:56In one of the few positions, at least a minimum, you're like,
- 26:58oh, I've heard a couple, couple of these guys that certainly
- 27:01came up with Drew Surges, who we've seen on the field, Connor
- 27:04Welch, a central Iowa kid, what take away from the safety
- 27:07position. Yeah, he right out of the right
- 27:11out of the chute managed brings up those those 3 safeties that
- 27:16came back and, and kind of the the, you know, the transition
- 27:21they've had to make to playing a different kind of defense.
- 27:25You know, he got into the rest of that Group A little bit.
- 27:29Braden Alls does the transfer from Toledo.
- 27:33He's a guy that seems like every media setting where defense
- 27:37comes up. Braden Alls is is one of those
- 27:39guys that's mentioned. So I'll bring him up.
- 27:43You know, first and foremost, he was one of the guys mentioned.
- 27:47But you know, and one thing I Michael Harper and another,
- 27:50another guy, Deron Goodman. Those are a couple of those
- 27:54transfers as well. You know, one thing, I, I know
- 27:57just two out of these DBS, when I kind of put my eyes on those
- 28:00on that position group yesterday, those guys flipped
- 28:04apart. I mean, they're they're mostly
- 28:05across the board. 6162 Keon Washington was a guy and it's
- 28:13got great wingspan to him. Jaheim Singletary, we didn't,
- 28:18you know, we didn't really cover corners today.
- 28:19That'll be coming up. But you know, these D BS, I
- 28:23think they definitely look the part and physicality,
- 28:26athleticism, it's not going to be a problem with that group.
- 28:30Interesting. Is there a holdover from
- 28:33previous Campbell teams that that the new staff is continues
- 28:39to mention, maybe not raving about, but continues to bring
- 28:41them up regardless of position, regardless of whether it was
- 28:44today or in the last couple of days?
- 28:46How about a holdover that Cyclone fans would certainly
- 28:49remember their name that may be catching the new staff's eye.
- 28:55Yeah, Carson Willick is is one who was brought up on on the
- 28:59defensive side of the ball as one who's who's looking pretty
- 29:03good. He's kind of changed positions a
- 29:05little bit too. He's back inside.
- 29:07He was playing Sam kind of got beat out there by Kale Brazina
- 29:12last season and didn't play a whole lot.
- 29:14And you know, he's a guy that's battled a lot of injuries.
- 29:16They've moved him aside to will linebacker Mike's early reviews
- 29:22there and you know, he's the guy that that Mike's playing with 4D
- 29:25lineman in front of him too, instead of three.
- 29:28I think paying dividends for him.
- 29:30You know, he go over to the offensive side of the ball and
- 29:33and actually, well, we already mentioned I already mentioned
- 29:37over be a little bit. He's he's one of those old
- 29:40silvers, I think has a chance to play, play a lot of snaps this
- 29:45season and and it's been a holdover.
- 29:47And I think I learned a lot from his experiences last season and
- 29:53and is on a unfinished business, I think for that guy coming back
- 29:57here in in 26. Away from the position groups
- 30:00that I hadn't chance to talk to today and the coaches over
- 30:02there. Bill, your thoughts?
- 30:04Jalen Rainer, I think everybody anticipates is going to be the
- 30:07starter. Has that been named?
- 30:09Is it just the assumption that is there kind of Moberly there,
- 30:12they brought in Zane Flores, we saw a little bit at Oklahoma
- 30:14State or does everybody just know this is going to be
- 30:17Rainer's job? Yeah, I think that all
- 30:21indications yesterday, you know, we didn't see any of the team
- 30:24grill 7 on 7, any of that. But I think all indications are
- 30:29that Rainer's the guy, you know, the order in which they went
- 30:33through some drift. Yeah, you know, kind of putting
- 30:38two and two together. I think overly probably running
- 30:43with the twos at this point. Then you look at 4:00 as as as
- 30:47the three. But all it needs putting eyes on
- 30:49Rainer for the first time. Granted, we did see him and Ames
- 30:53a couple seasons ago. Iowa State played down there
- 30:56last year and, and he's an impressive looking athlete and
- 31:01certainly passes the eye test and, and I think early reviews
- 31:06on him are good. Away from football to
- 31:08basketball, Bill, there's a lot of rumors flying around, a lot
- 31:12about the Munchilovich entering the transfer portal.
- 31:15We know he's dipping his toes into the NBA.
- 31:17At least he's going to take that get some feedback from from the
- 31:21NBA whether he stays or not. What are you hearing as far as
- 31:24Monchilovich? Do you believe he's going to
- 31:26enter the portal? Is he in the portal?
- 31:29And I want to just put a caveat on that doesn't mean that he's
- 31:31leaving Iowa State. I've been told that it's just to
- 31:34kind of get an indication of what might be out there.
- 31:37What are you hearing from Monchilovich and the fact that
- 31:40he may be at some point you see his name pop up in the transfer
- 31:44portal? Yeah, well, there was a, there
- 31:47was a report out there, Kenny, that I believe from Jake Brenn
- 31:51had put out there that he and teaching we're going to be
- 31:55meeting today. I I think they want to gauge
- 31:57kind of where he's at in the process.
- 31:59Brandon, he's not in the portal at this point, but I think he's
- 32:03a guy already. I've heard some some rumors
- 32:07floating floating around an SCC school 5.
- 32:11Million. Dollars I think yeah, Florida
- 32:14for 5 million that's the the rumor that's out there.
- 32:17But tell you he's got a decision to make though.
- 32:19I mean really does he want to be go be might be a second rounder
- 32:25in the NBA draft go compete maybe to be a two way guy right
- 32:30away bounce back and forth G League NBA next season.
- 32:34Does he want to come back to Iowa State?
- 32:36I don't think Iowa State's probably going to approach what
- 32:39Florida's supposedly offered or does he want to go for one year
- 32:44maybe down to the FCC and and make a huge payday probably more
- 32:49than he's going to make. I would imagine 5 billion more
- 32:52than he would make as a second round draft pick next year.
- 32:55So any of three things that he can do, but I think he will get
- 32:59a raise from Iowa State certainly as he stays and Iowa
- 33:02states got the money to spend a little bit more on him as well.
- 33:07With Jefferson let's he come off the books and you look at some
- 33:11of the early guys that they're targeting in the portal, Kenny
- 33:14and I I don't think these are going to be ones that they're
- 33:18going to have to throw a lot of money out to, let's put it that
- 33:21way. So I think they've got the
- 33:23flexibility to go higher on on deal of it if they want to get
- 33:28close to that that rumor offer from Florida.
- 33:32Bill, a name has emerged in the portal.
- 33:34On the men's side of that is Taj Manning, who we saw at Kansas
- 33:37State. Not big numbers by any means,
- 33:396-7, averaged 4 points, 5 rebounds a season ago.
- 33:43But I know what are your guys reporters over there at on three
- 33:46Pete Naco. So I mentioned that possible
- 33:48connection. You hearing anything on the Taj
- 33:50Manning front? Yeah, I everything I've heard
- 33:54that it is pretty close to being a done deal there with with him
- 34:00and I I'm not sure he comes in and becomes a starter, but
- 34:05probably a rotation guy. And, and you look at them that
- 34:09it's hard to really draw much of A conclusion about Taj Manning
- 34:14based on the. Train wreck that was the K.
- 34:17State, yeah, the K State program.
- 34:19And then I mean the, the, the, the coaching staff, they, they,
- 34:22they fire Tang. And then, you know, one of his
- 34:24top confidants is sitting on the bench during timeouts, not even
- 34:29engaged with the team. So it was just, it was a mess.
- 34:33It's hard to glean too much, but I, I, they, obviously they like
- 34:37what they've seen out of him and the, the bits that he's been in
- 34:40there and, and gosh, he averaged and the role that he had, he
- 34:45averaged over 5 rebounds a game. So I think that's an encouraging
- 34:48thing and a guy probably should be a rotation player.
- 34:51The Abyss, that's well put. Last thing on the portal, Trey
- 34:54Singleton, he is a freshman. He'll have three years left to
- 34:58play. Northwestern Transfer.
- 35:00Is he coming in? What's the likelihood he's a
- 35:02cyclone? Bill, what are you hearing?
- 35:05Yeah, those two guys, I'm I'm pretty, I think pretty safe to
- 35:09say that they're going to become cyclones.
- 35:11I think it's that a foregone conclusion.
- 35:14Everything I've heard with them singles and I'll get in here and
- 35:17visit. I would imagine probably an
- 35:20announcement not too long after that visit wraps up.
- 35:23They find the body of work out of him his freshman year at
- 35:27Northwestern. You know, I don't think that was
- 35:30a system probably that was going to he was going to score a whole
- 35:34lot. Just that coming in as a
- 35:36freshman, what, 6-8, I think he's got a good frame to maybe
- 35:40put on some weight. They'll they'll certainly do
- 35:43that and Iowa, Iowa State. But you know, he's kind of
- 35:48probably improved the three points shot a little bit too.
- 35:51You know, Jefferson's pretty good from out there and I think
- 35:56to kind of get his game maybe a little more well-rounded.
- 35:59I think he only shot at about 16% from three as A2 freshman.
- 36:03So I think still some work to do in his game.
- 36:06But they like what they've seen so far and you know, they played
- 36:09Northwestern in that exhibition too.
- 36:11I think like what they saw out of him.
- 36:14That's. An excellent point, Bill Seals
- 36:16cyclonereport.com part of on three media got you covered with
- 36:19the portal, etcetera. Bill, thanks for jumping on.
- 36:22Appreciate the double dip this week.
- 36:23We'll talk back to you on Monday.
- 36:24Thank you, Bill Seals. Looking forward to it guys.
- 36:28Have a good way. Good afternoon.
- 36:29Thank you, pal. Good to hear from you.
- 36:30Bill Seals, cyclonereport.com, part of on three Media.
- 36:35I like Singleton better obviously with the eligibility,
- 36:37but that's a great point on K State, just how bad they were in
- 36:40that program and. An upgrade of like the motor
- 36:43roll. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is A
- 36:46and he's a. One year deal, right?
- 36:47He's one year, I think, one year I.
- 36:49Think one year left for him. Put a good stop gap.
- 36:52Emergency peace. Maybe he can carve out a roll
- 36:55it. And yeah, maybe there's more
- 36:56upside because of just how hideous things got with Jerome
- 36:59Tang and they say. Do you think the 5 million is
- 37:03accurate? From Florida from Onchilovich
- 37:06led the country in three-point shooting that.
- 37:08Seems like a stretch because a little high, yes, absolutely.
- 37:11Because what we're hearing is that's like that's the going
- 37:16rate for centers, small forwards, power forwards don't
- 37:18go at that level. But Dunga, yeah, I could
- 37:21understand that number. And he's to be, he's visiting
- 37:24Louisville, I think first. Is that where he's going?
- 37:26And I. Think after that he's going to
- 37:28St. John's.
- 37:29Mentioned the update from Pete Nacos.
- 37:32He has another one on Fulgaris. Right.
- 37:34Yes, he says this from the report that sources have said
- 37:40they would be surprised if he is back for another year in Iowa
- 37:43City. The Hawkeyes had a team workout
- 37:45earlier this week that fool Garris did not attend, per a
- 37:48source. The two sides are expected to
- 37:50meet again would be today. So Fulgaris is meeting with
- 37:54McCollum today. Munchilovich is meeting with TJ
- 37:56today. By this time tomorrow we should
- 37:58have some clarity. I would hope so.
- 38:00We might have a very busy show suddenly tomorrow.
- 38:02I'm all for it. Yes, absolutely, I am all for
- 38:05it. Good stuff I have.
- 38:07One more note, the and we're connecting these names and and
- 38:11who knows what's real? And is it just a fan like oh,
- 38:13this kids in the portal. OK, I thought.
- 38:16Price Sanford was in the poison Ige, Yeah.
- 38:18Well, and be careful about that stuff too, but the Butler guard
- 38:23that Iowa is supposedly involved with a lot of people connecting
- 38:26dots there average like 18 points 5 is this all right?
- 38:29That's really good. His name last name is Biz Jack.
- 38:34He I dug into some numbers last night.
- 38:36I'm like, all right, there's some pick and roll numbers that
- 38:38were 18 and. 5 Did you say 18? And five, yeah.
- 38:41And on the surface, that's great, right?
- 38:44Not great in pick and roll, according to Synergy.
- 38:46The other thing, awful defensively, we just saw a guy
- 38:51this past season and they spent a lot of money on it, was not
- 38:54very good defensively. He didn't got off the bench.
- 38:57That's Brendan Hassan right now. This is a different guard.
- 38:59This is a lead guard. That's the guy that's going to
- 39:00handle it more. But regardless being in the
- 39:02case. Stage.
- 39:03You're not going to play defense.
- 39:04You're not going to play for the column.
- 39:05That's right. Again, these are just numbers.
- 39:08I have not watched Biz Jack play.
- 39:10I have not broke down the film. But the numbers indicate not
- 39:15just he's a bad defender. That doesn't seem like a fit for
- 39:19what we know of Ben McCollum. I would be surprised if that's
- 39:23the decision that they're going to go, This is the guy they
- 39:25don't. His team played defence this
- 39:29year and very well. He did.
- 39:32And we're committed as opposed to it was it was great to see.
- 39:37Absolutely. Trent's plays of the day are
- 39:39next. Miller and Condon our final
- 39:40segment coming up off the bench. Kyle Green joins the boys, you
- 39:44and I's new basketball coach. He will be on with the fellas
- 39:47this afternoon. We'll take you until just before
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- 39:57Condon, welcome back. Our final segment coming up next
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- 40:06quarter tomorrow morning, every morning 6:00 until 9:00, Heather
- 40:09Burnside, Alec Bussey, talk sports, etcetera.
- 40:13From six until nine, our morning show trends, plays of the day,
- 40:17circus sports sponsor those boys in a ton of day baseball here
- 40:21today Cubs play tonight. The Twins today are they're
- 40:26tonight they're so that's two. Yep.
- 40:28Going to take the Tigers, by the way, in that one are.
- 40:30You and that's the late game of the day. 641st It's crazy.
- 40:34Framber on the bump for the Tigers will lay the -149 they're
- 40:38going to play the Astros this afternoon coming up here in
- 40:41about 20 minutes -130 in Colorado and right back to the
- 40:45well with the Reds. They're the only team I can win
- 40:46with, so let's just keep playing them and beat them until they're
- 40:49dead. Plus 1:15 this evening, as it
- 40:52will be Brady Singer getting the ball for the Reds in that one.
- 40:56But I told you I will give you my card as it currently is
- 40:59constructed for. The masters for.
- 41:01The Masters, if you are a listener of our program, you
- 41:05know that both Ken and I are invested.
- 41:07And Robert McIntyre, Bobby Mack, 50 to one.
- 41:10Sorry. You should have jumped to board
- 41:12with us when we first talked about it.
- 41:13What's it now, 3533? Yeah, the prices have dwindled
- 41:18on the fine young lefty lad. 50 to 1, though.
- 41:21Got that one in the pocket. Four more guys to win.
- 41:24So I usually take four or five guys, throw 5-10 bucks, 10 bucks
- 41:27on them to win Dechambeau. He was plus 1275 this morning at
- 41:32Circa Ludberg, Obberg 16 to 1, Justin Rose 35 to 1 and Xander,
- 41:39cuz you know, it's a major. You think, of course Xander's
- 41:41going to be out by card, 18 to one on Shafley to get it done.
- 41:45I do have Scheffler in the top five plus money plus one for.
- 41:49It's like kind of what do you call those saver tickets?
- 41:51Yeah, yeah. It's all right.
- 41:53If Scheffler wins, I'm not getting killed, right?
- 41:55I got to get something. Yeah, we'll put a couple of
- 41:57units on that one a little bit more than I normally would, But
- 42:00just to have that, if you win, so be it.
- 42:02OK, I didn't get a great price, but still plus 140 for a top
- 42:04five. That feels pretty safe.
- 42:06Shafly Olberg going to play top 10s with them.
- 42:09Shafly again, that's one laddering this week, a top 20.
- 42:13Cam Young top 20. Patrick Reed, as much as you're
- 42:16going to get him top 20, another one that at least I have
- 42:19something. If he's there, he left.
- 42:21Live right now, he's back on the tour.
- 42:23Yes, him and Brooks both came back and my young guy that I
- 42:26really am intrigued by Nikolai Hogard who bombs it off the team
- 42:31top ten and driving distance. So that's something that.
- 42:33Plays last year for something. I can't remember if it was him
- 42:36or was it his brother but. Oh, that's right.
- 42:38Yes, we bet a Hoggard. Yeah, I don't know which one
- 42:42either. That I don't.
- 42:42Think it. I don't think it was Nikolai, I
- 42:43think it was the other one, if memory serves.
- 42:46Then a couple of goofy ones. I'm going to bet over the
- 42:49winning score for this 127274 and what's part yes, 71, yeah,
- 42:5671. So I think we're going to see
- 42:58more in the range of 910 under something like that wins it not
- 43:02the 1415 that we've seen recently.
- 43:05Justin Rose has LED five times after the first round.
- 43:08You can still get him at 40 to 1 to be the first round leader.
- 43:11That just seems crazy. So if.
- 43:13You're is is that with ties? That would be a different
- 43:17market, yes. It has to be outright to get
- 43:19that price, yes, at 40 to 1. If a tie, though, then that
- 43:23number dwindles down. Zach Johnson to be the top
- 43:25senior and Jacob Bridgeman, my top debutante at plus 650.
- 43:30All right. Best of luck to you.
- 43:31We'll talk about the golf tournament.
- 43:33We got updates throughout it from Westwood one off the bench.
- 43:36Coming up next, we're Miller and Condon weekdays noon to two.
- 43:39Thanks for being with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.