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Bricks And Mortar With DONITA SPARKS From L7 · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Hey, this is Danita Sparks from L seven and you're listening to the Heavy
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  podcast. L seven were forced to be reckoned within the nineties. Formed in
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  La in nineteen eighty five, the all female L seven were a significant part
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  of the early nineties movement of grunge that saw the days of hair and glam
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  metal being put on the shelves. The band became celebrated for their raw and
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  rowdy live performances and uncompromising punk rock attitude. Their third studio album, Bricks
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  Are Heavy, was released in nine ninety two, and it was this album
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  that saw them being recognized internationally that in stunts like Tampon Gate, a now
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  famous incident in rock music history where during their set at UK Reading, first
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  of all, frontwoman Danita Sparks extracted a tampon from her person and lovingly sent
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  it sailing into the audience. L seven are heading to Australia and New Zealand
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  this December to treat fans to Bricks Are Heavy played in its tyranty plus more
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  cheers for tuning into the Heavy Podcast. I'm es and this episode we get
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  to chat with the legend that is Denia Sparks. Vocalist and guitarist for the
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  formidable L seven as Hasn't Want to Big Cool, Big Cool. Welcome to
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  the Heavy Podcast, right on, Thanks for having me Heavy Podcast. How
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  are you doing today today tonight? What is it? This is? It
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  is a lovely afternoon here in Los Angeles, and I'm just doing some interviews
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  for the upcoming Australian tour in December. I know, how exciting. How
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  how long has it been sinto you guys have been out here? I think
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  it's I think we were there in twenty sixteen. I'm much Yes, I
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  think so. It was kind of a reunion tour. Now we're doing the
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  Bricks Are Heavy tour front to back. Yeah, yeah, and so that's
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  going to be played in its entirety. Was that a daunting prospect? I
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  mean, that's what I don't want to age. Is here but a thirty
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  one year old album. I imagine there's some songs that you haven't played in
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  a very long time. Yeah, we hadn't played the first song on the
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  record. We're playing. The show's going to start with Bricks Are Heavy front
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  to back, and then after we finished that, that's about forty minutes forty
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  two minutes and then we'll go into our other want to be hits from our
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  career. But yeah, it starts Wargasm starts it out, and that's a
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  pretty intense song to play right right at the top of the set. That's
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  funny and fun but we're pulling it off, so that's cool. And we
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  haven't we hadn't done that song since nineteen ninety two, I don't think.
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  Yeah. And then the last song on the record, the same Pleasure,
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  we had never played before, and that's another fast one, so you know,
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  it's it starts and ends pretty uh, pretty excitingly. I should say,
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  Yeah, what kind of prip have you been doing in you know,
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  do you get yourself ready for this or are you just gonna jump in?
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  And well, I'm gonna have to start working out because I've got a sloth
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  the last couple of months. But I need to get my I need to
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  get it takes endurance to do our shows. We're very we're very uh.
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  We like to put on a good show, like physically, you know,
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  and that takes you know, we're older now and that takes you know,
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  I need to I need to stretch before the show. I need to get
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  my cardio up. It's like, you know, it's we've got to we've
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  got to maintain the machine and like like we never have had to do in
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  the past, you know, get gig fit. As I like to say,
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  that's people don't realize how physical you need to be on stage. I
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  don't think. Yeah, And I just uh, I had a rasp in
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  my voice from the last tour, and I was really worried that I had
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  finally finally tour my vocal cords apart, especially singing shitless, which is woo.
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  But my pipes look good, so I'm really I just saw a doctor,
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  so yeah, they just but you know, I've got to take care
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  of them. So yeah, or there's nothing scarier than than blowing the voice
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  out. Yeah yeah, all right, So I know you'd be into a
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  PRIP mode right now. But how often do you guys get together normally?
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  Like, are you writing new material at the moment. No, we have
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  a new single coming out in September, but uh, you know, these
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  days we get together when we either have an upcoming tour or an upcoming project.
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  Susie no longer lives in la and so we're kind of you know,
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  I live on the east side of LA. Jennifer and Dee live on the
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  west side of LA. So it is, you know, it's it's it's
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  kind of an ordeal to to get together and play. So we get together
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  when we need to get together. Otherwise we're all kind of living our own
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  lives. We're not we're not a full time band. We are. Yeah,
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  we get together when we've got stuff to do. Yeah, fair enough.
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  And when you do, does it feel like time has not passed at
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  all? Or do you have to sort of readjust to one another again personality
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  wise or musically? Oh? Both, personality I mean personality wise. You
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  know, we're the you know, we're the same people, a little more
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  mature at times. And and then you know, sometimes I feel, oh
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  god, we've all made such progress, you know, with our with our
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  with our flaws, you know, and then it's like something happens and it's
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  like, nope, same old, same old story. So and I'm saying
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  myself included. So, but it is fun. I think that we all
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  have a love and respect for each other that goes beyond uh, you know,
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  petty stuff or or you know, annoyances, I should say. Musically,
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  Sometimes we're you know, if we haven't played for a while, we're
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  a little rusty and we have to get back up to speed. D usually
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  goes in early to play drums and just to get to shake off the rust,
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  you know. So she she is the most prepared, you know,
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  Like when we come into play, D's not making mistakes, you know what
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  I mean, The rest of us are D is not. So she is
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  totally our rock solid. She is the glue, do you know what.
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  I know that there are a million drumma jokes out in the world, but
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  I find that drummers are the most disciplined people. I know. Ah,
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  I think the jokes were born out of people being jealous for that. Yeah,
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  and I mean, listen, the most noticeable fuck up is if the
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  drummer fucks up, you know. So it's like we can all kind of
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  cover each other, but no one can cover D. And she knows it.
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  And she when she on the rare occasion that she makes a mistake,
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  she's like mortified and beats herself up for like days, you know what I
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  mean, and like it's okay, it's okay, you're great, you know.
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  So, Yeah, she is very uh, she's very conscientious and and
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  very proud to be in L seven and wants to put on a good show
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  and doesn't want to suck up. You know that's the way you want it
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  too. Yeah, so you said that. You know, in some ways
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  you guys have mellowed out and then other ways not. So do you feel
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  like you're still full of radical ideas and opinions like you were back in the
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  day. Have you still got to have you still got a drum to bang?
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  We still have a drum to bang. Our upcoming single is a very
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  big drum that we're going to bang. And so yes, having you know,
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  piss and vinegar all the time. You know, we've never had that
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  all the time, but you know, I you know, we've got that
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  side of like feistiness and stuff, but we've also got some pretty decent songs
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  that deserve to be presented with respect by us, you know what I mean.
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  We just like everything's a joke, everything's this. You know. It's
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  like, I'm very I'm very conscientious about putting on a good show as well,
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  and really it's all about it's not about my enjoyment as much as the
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  audience's enjoyment. So some people are very oh, I need to enjoy myself
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  on stage. I don't care if I enjoy myself on stage, that makes
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  it for a better show for me. But I care about what the audience.
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  The audience experiences, yeah for sure. I mean they're the ones that
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  have pade the money for the tickets, and at the end of the day,
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  I guess you know, yes, it's your art, but you've got
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  a job to do when you're on stage. Hey, So how does it
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  feel to sort of then be more known for some of the outrageous things that
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  you guys have been involved in and not so much those serious songs Because I
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  know, just brushing myself up in preparation for this interview. You know,
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  you pop in our seven and you get you know, reading festival and you
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  know this, that and the other, and it took me a while to
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  like delve in and like dig through to get to some of the more serious
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  messages. Do you still feel like you're sort of fighting an uphill battle with
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  the industry in that regard, I have nothing to do with the industry.
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  We were not involved with the industry. Yeah. The closest thing we come
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  to with an industry is like when we play festival or something like that.
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  Other than that, we're just dealing with local you know, we're dealing with
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  promoters and you know, local promoters or you know, we're really kind of
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  our own island. We have a very small operation. We're not on a
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  record label. We don't have a big management team. We've got one manager,
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  one booking agent. So you know, I'm not really concerned about the
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  industry at all, because the industry lost interest in US, you know,
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  thirty years ago. So it's kind of like bricks are heavy with sort of
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  our peak and then it just kind of, you know, went sort of
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  slowly down from there. Even though I feel proud of the records that came
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  out after that, and I think that they were good records, it's just
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  the industry tired of us, and you know, music was moving on and
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  grunge got really bloated and boring and we were thrown into that category. And
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  you know, and the next generation was you know, tearing grunge down and
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  they wanted new, new music. You know. So anyway, what am
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  I going on about. I think, well, I would like to just
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  say that I think that it's incredibly impressive. Then that, considering all of
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  that, L seven is still this iconic band, you know, thirty,
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  you know whatever, years on. So you know, whether or not the
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  industry chucked you by the wayside, still you're still really important. I would
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  like to sort of think, then, what how different do you think L
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  Seven's career may have been had you been breaking through in this day and age
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  then when labels aren't as important and you can sort of create your own team
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  around you in music. I don't. I don't. I really can't speak
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  to that. I have no idea, but I know that the work that
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  we did a long time ago and the fan base that we have built,
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  and our fans are very dedicated, very loyal. They stuck with us through
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  our hiatus of fifteen years when we were kind of on hiatus, and you
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  know, they were posting stuff to YouTube and posting photos and blah blah blah,
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  and they kept us alive. And we're very grateful for that. And
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  you know, some of those stunts that you were referring to, or what
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  people consider stunts, like the tampon throw and the dropping of my pants on
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  television, those things have kept us alive too. So somebody reads that and
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  they're like, oh, I got to check this band out, you know.
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  So like, even though we didn't get like on the radio much anymore
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  after bricks are heavy, those incidents, you know, remain pretty funny and
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  shocking and rad and people kind of, you know, check us out because
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  of that stuff. So you know, for a while, I was like,
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  oh, maybe I shouldn't have on that, you know, but now
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  I'm just like, I'm like, I think it's I think it's funny and
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  it's feisty, and it's we were being you know, the tampon thing.
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  We were being assaulted with mud our entire set. So I needed to make
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  lemonade out of lemon and had involved had involved a live AMMO tampon straight out
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  of my body. So that's what I did. I wasn't really sure whether
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  I wanted to bring that one up or not, because I feel like you've
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  probably spoken about it to death, and I was conscious of the fact that
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  you might be seek of talking about that incident. Well, everybody has been
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  very respectful about that, with all the all of the Australian interviews that I've
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  been doing, and but the fact that you didn't bring it up was why
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  I started blabbing about it. So a reverse psychology going on that you're playing
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  with me, which is very intriguing. Oh yeah, that was That was
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  totally my pod the whole time. That was no, No, It's definitely
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  one of those iconic moments in rock history. I was saying to my husband
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  last night while I was prepping. I was like, you know who I'm
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  talking to tomorrow, the chick that through the tampon. There you go?
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  Yeah, so there you go. You guys have definitely been an integral part
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  of paving the way for women in alternative music. There's no doubt about that.
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  So how do you feel watching some of the women today that are just
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  kicking us and taking names and knowing that bands like El seven opened those doors.
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  Well, I don't know if El seven opened the doors for Amy Taylor
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  of Emil and the Sniffers, but I think she's phenomenal. I saw her
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  live. I met her on the street in my neighborhood, which was amazing.
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  But I saw a crossing the street. I was like, that looks
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  like a dealer. And I pulled the car over and I went out and
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  I introduced myself and she knew who I was. She was like, yeah,
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  Danita Sparks. I'm like Oh my god, how do you know who
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  was more struck? You all her? I think I was more starstruck.
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  I'm not sure, but I went to see her that night. She put
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  me on the guest list, and I thought she was great. And I
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  think her videos. I think their videos are great. And I just think
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  she's a firecracker of a performer. She's like she's like a very She's like
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  a long, exploding firecracker, like from the beginning tend of the set,
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  you know what I mean. It's like she's just on. And so I
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  like her quite a bit. And I like the chats. The chats are
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  good other bands from Australia, I'm not that schooled. Was it a deliberate
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  move for you guys to form an old female band or did it just it
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  a fool that way? It just fell that way. We had a boy
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  drummer when we started, and he's the only person that we ever let go
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  from the well is he is? He? I don't know, but we
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  Yeah, he had a he had a tough time, he would he had.
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  He drank too much and he didn't like taking He did not have the
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  dedication of d on the drums. Let's just say that, but and he
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  didn't like taking any any comments from women about his playing. But but I
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  wanted to get back to something you said about us opening doors for women in
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  alternative music. Yes, that is due to a certain extent, but there
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  were women before us who opened the door for us, and the women of
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  the punk movement and the new wave movement and the post punk movement, and
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  you know, uh, we just fit into our own recipe of of a
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  of a band, and uh, people saw us and were inspired by us,
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  but we were inspired by others before us. So so you've just you've
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  just passed it down the line. I think things have gotten exponentially better for
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  women in the music industry, but I feel like, also there's always still
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  a little ways to go. How are you guys finding it now? Is
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  and pardon the term, but as seen is in the music scene these days.
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  Well, I think for the most part, we get a lot of
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  respect, which is great. And there's not like because we're older, there's
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  not those dinosaur guys who are like, oh, what's it like to be
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  in at what's it like on the bus? You know? There was always
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  this like kind of like pervert kind of angle to that, like what are
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  you employing like we have we have like naked pillow fights or something like.
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  I was just about to say the whole pillow fighting you're undis thing. Yeah,
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  you know, so it's like that that kind of I don't know if
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  it's because we're older or because that's not as common and the dinosaurs have just
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  died out. It's kind of not acceptable that much to go down that road,
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  because you know, we've certainly done our job of shaming those guys over
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  the years. But so I don't know how how the young the young girls
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  are doing it. I hope that they're I hope that they're faring well out
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  there. As a girl in a band these days, it's it's mostly pretty
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  good, but you do still come across some fuck faces. Yeah. Do
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  you think else seven would have been able to have been as outspoken and sort
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  of campaign for certain things like you have had it been a mixed gender band.
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  I don't know. You know, when Susie and I first started out,
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  it was it was tough to get anybody to play with us, you
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  know, like like the art punks thought we were too a little too metal,
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  and the punks thought we were a little too mid tempo at times.
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  I don't know, it was tough to get people to play with us,
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  and that's how it kind of ended up all females, because you know,
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  you're all fighting the same battle. Probably, yeah, And I'll tell you
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  you know, back then, it took a certain kind of woman to want
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  to be in a rock band, and so a lot of alpha's going on.
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  And we've got a lot of alpha's in L seven. So but I
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  think it took that kind of spirit back then to even pick up a guitar,
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  bass, or drums. So because you know, it was kind of
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  a dude's world, so especially in the hard rock world. Uh yeah,
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  So what have you done with yourself outside of music? I feel like,
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  you know, someone like you has probably been involved in some pretty cool shit.
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  Well, I got a PhD in microbiology. I'm kidding. Oh,
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  it's about to be so impressed, Gelfy impressed because it's not true. I
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  do know. I do know rock stars who have gotten amazing degrees. I'm
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  not one of them, you know, I've just I don't know. That's
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  a tough question, but I will say this. I do is snorkeling very
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  much, and I play Oh my god, I love snorkeling. Awesome.
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  Where are you at in Australia. I'm not anywhere near the beach, unfortunately.
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  I went to Thailand a while ago and snorkeled for the first time and
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  now I want to snorkel everywhere. Yes, and I do at the Great
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  Barrier Reef. So at the end of the Australian tour, my plan is
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  to go to the Great Barrier Reef. So if any of your listeners have
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  any hookup whatsoever, because I think it's going to be crowded because it's like
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  Christmas time, you know, so yes, if anybody you know wants to
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  support the arts and let you know, Danita. You know, I don't
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  want to bunk with anybody, but if they've got a place that or have
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  any suggestions of where I should go to snorkel the Great Barrier Reef, I
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  would appreciate it very much and you can contact me through my Instagram Danita Sparks
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  Official. I do know some people up in cans which is up that way
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  far north Queensland. It's an absolutely stunning part of the country and I wouldn't
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  be surprised if you go up there and you just don't want to leave.
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  Yeah. Now I've seen I've seen videos of Hamilton Island, which I know
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  is a further is further south than that, but I've I've been checking it
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  out. I want to find out where to go. I'm hoping I can
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  find some kind of a you know, cool place to stay and but that
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  is on the agenda. Yeah, that's amazing. So other than snorkeling,
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  what else you looking forward to about getting over here and interacting with your Ossie
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  fans? Well, yeah, I think I think Ozzie fans really love rock
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  and roll. Yeah, like really really into good rock, you know,
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  and a lot of great bands have come out of rock bands have come out
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  of Australia, so there's a sensibility down there that's very It's like it's open
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  minded rock. But they really like to rock, you know, So that
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  we're looking forward to. I wish that we were playing an all ages venue.
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  They just don't really exist anymore. It's really sad. It breaks my
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  heart. And I think if we were a bigger band and we could play
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  a theater or something, or like a bigger like a stadium or something,
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  that that could be all ages. But we're just not that big, so
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  that breaks my heart that the kids. You know, yes, it's liability
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  issues, it's insurance issues. It's a pain in the ass, and I
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  feel bummed out about that, but it's a It's an issue I've been speaking
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  with a lot of musicians about recently, because you know, we're all sort
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  of becoming older and thinking where are the where are the newbies coming up the
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  ranks. There's they're not able to get out to see shows, so therefore
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  they're not being inspired to play music. And you know, I have a
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  fifteen nearly sixteen year old steps on and he's a middle head, and all
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  he wants to do is go to shows and they just aren't any It's heartbreaking,
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  you know, yeah, heartbreaking. I mean I could never go to
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  clubs when I was a kid, but I could go to a concert,
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  you know what I mean. So it is heartbreaking, you know, in
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  LA the clubs, you know, I hear that there's not a lot of
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  residencies for artists, which which have been helpful in the past, and you
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  know, new artists and stuff. So we've got to get back into the
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  groove of like you know, bringing up the next ones, passing thee and
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  come on, keep them comment turn them up. You know. I just
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  hope that the kids maybe hear this and we'll go check us out on YouTube
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  or you know, enjoy us virtually somehow. Yeah, definitely. I mean
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  there's not even any high school Battle of the bands anymore that I see around.
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  And I discuss at L seven because high school friends of mine when I
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  was only fifteen, were in an all girl band and they were obsessed with
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  you guys. So it's, yeah, we need we need the more young
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  people in rock and roll for sure. Yes, for sure. And that's
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  where it hits you the most emotionally when you're when you're young, and really
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  it's kind of for some people it's kind of saving their lives. I mean,
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  not to sound too grandiose or anything, but like I completely agree,
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  the only truth they may be hearing in their lives maybe coming out of the
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  speakers, and it's like, you know, they may get bullshit at school,
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  they may get bullshit from their parents, they may get bullshit on all
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  fronts for who they are, but maybe they're connecting with the person who's singing
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  in some kind of way that that helps them out. You know, Yeah,
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  absolutely completely agree. I'm going to have to wrap things up because I
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  have a day job to get to, which is really gross. But I
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  had like one little fun question that I wanted to ask you before we finish
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  up. If an l seventh song had been selected to be the feature song
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  for a major motion picture, which song and for which movie? Would those
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  be? Oh? God, that doesn't exist already. I mean, like,
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  you know, shitless was in Natural Born Killers. A lot of people
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  really liked that movie and that scene with Juliet Lewis doing a fantastic job in
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  that scene. I'm talking like grand scale, like my heart will go on
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  Titanic style. I think fast and frightening would be pretty rad, you know,
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  like in a chase scene or something, or you know, some kind
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  of high action thing. You know. Man, it was almost in the
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  Brie Larson Superhero movie. What was that Captain America? I don't know,
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  Marvel, I don't know what it was, but it was she was.
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  I wish I could help you, but I'm really bad with superhero movies.
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  Yeah she was. She was training too fast and frightening. Oh amazing.
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  Yeah, she was doing her fight scenes to that and training and it almost
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  got in the movie. And then we were we were we were bumped for
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  nine inch Nails. Nah. Yeah, so those same those same things keep
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  happening to us from the nineties, you know what I mean, Like we
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  get bumped out by somebody else. But nine inch Nails have been in their
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  fair share of movies. They can they can share right right now. And
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  the thing about this movie was that it took place in like nineteen ninety two,
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  So it's like that would have been right in the wheelhouse, you know
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  what I mean. So I would say fast and frightening in a in some
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  kind of a high energy scene would be really cool. Let's just say for
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  us and fronting in the movie that it should have been in yes, yes,
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  right, Well, thank you so very much for your time to Anita.
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  We're really looking forward to having you back in Australia in December. Yeah.
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  Pack your summer clothes because it's going to be hot. Yeah yeah,
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  Well, thank you so much for having me. Much appreciated and we're very
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  pleased that we're getting a lot of love out of Australia, so we always
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  we very much appreciate it. We see we will see you in December,
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  Australia. Don't miss L seven when they are in New Zealand and Australia this
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  December. Tickets are on sale now and hey, if you know a guy
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  and you think that you can hook den eat her up with some red snorkeling
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  opportunities. You heard the lady. Get in touch with her on Instagram.
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  L seven commence the tour on December sixth, then Auckland. They hit Sydney
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  on December eight at the Metro Brisbane, December ninth at the Tivoli December twelfth,
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  they do Adelaide at the gov Perth on December thirteenth the rose Mount Hotel,
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  and they wrap things up in Melbourne on December fifteenth at the Croxton Band
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  Room. Keep Live Heavy and thanks once again for listening to the Heavy pod.
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  Peace Out on my Head, Ran Down, All swear till gun be
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  you my shat