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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November three. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: And now a guy who should receive hazard pay for
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Speaker 1: working with Masselli, J P. Shad Rick, Maybe who we
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Speaker 1: all should welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday.
0:25
Speaker 1: It's week thirteen. The Jaguars faced the Vikings. We have
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Speaker 1: a busy show ahead a Jaguars Vikings preview. The Jags
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Speaker 1: are headed to US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis for a
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Speaker 1: one o'clock Eastern time kick against a team that's up
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Speaker 1: against it in the NFC playoff picture. They need to
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Speaker 1: win to keep hope alive for a wild card. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are out of the race and the a f C.
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Speaker 1: Of course, we'll break down the game coming up a
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Speaker 1: little more on the aftermath of the day. Caldwell firing
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Speaker 1: after the game. Sunday, Tony Bsselli speaking up joins us
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Speaker 1: at four and the Doug Moron Show at five o'clock
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Speaker 1: and the head coach will join us from t i
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Speaker 1: A A bank Field. Jeff log Human with us now
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Speaker 1: on this Thursday, as he is every week from the
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Speaker 1: home studio, and here we are into December. Logs five
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Speaker 1: weeks last ah yeah and we're kind of counting them
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Speaker 1: down right. I mean, it's ten consecutive losses for this
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Speaker 1: football team. And uh, you know you're talking about now
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Speaker 1: draft positioning with the general manager being fired. I mean
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Speaker 1: there's not a I mean it's it's kind of a
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Speaker 1: somber type gloom I guess you could say around this
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Speaker 1: franchise right now, because it's not even in the conversation,
1:41
Speaker 1: you know. We mean, you were talking just a minute
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Speaker 1: ago about how nice it is to get the December
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Speaker 1: and talk about ways in which your team can get
1:49
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And we're not having that conversation. And
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Speaker 1: that's that's disappointing with his football team because and I
1:56
Speaker 1: don't want to say we had high expectations. I mean
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Speaker 1: the expectations weren't a high to begin with because it's
2:01
Speaker 1: a young football team that uh, the youngest roster in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. But but the one thing you
2:07
Speaker 1: want to see is at least improvement. And uh, and
2:11
Speaker 1: I don't know if if we can say that we're
2:13
Speaker 1: saying we're seeing improvement. I think from early on when
2:15
Speaker 1: this team is getting vote raced by quite a few
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Speaker 1: points and are more competitive. The last couple of weeks,
2:20
Speaker 1: but it's it's not the most positive thing JP. And
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Speaker 1: that's the reality. You know, I get I get those
2:27
Speaker 1: to your point, I get those emails. Now, this is
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Speaker 1: the time of year where the league sends out playoff
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Speaker 1: possibilities each week. If if this happens, then Team A
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Speaker 1: gets in the playoffs or gets this spot in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, man, I can't delete those emails fast
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Speaker 1: enough right now, I'll be honest with them. Just tired
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Speaker 1: of seeing it. I know, I know, I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: it's not easy, right, but it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: And you know, and I think that the fan base
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Speaker 1: wanted to see some type of institutional chain. And when
2:57
Speaker 1: I say chain, I mean there's got to be some
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Speaker 1: type of cha angel leadership at the top. And after
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Speaker 1: this past game what dy've called well getting fired, I
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Speaker 1: think that's obviously a step that will give the fan
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Speaker 1: base hope that this thing can get better with the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: because when when you have essentially what was seven double
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Speaker 1: digit law season under a general manager out of eight
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Speaker 1: seasons in which he presided over, that's not very good.
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Speaker 1: And uh, I think most people that are on the
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Speaker 1: outside look at it, and I think they're very surprised
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Speaker 1: that he was able to hold onto that job. So
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Speaker 1: law Peter King wrote about in his Money Morning Quarterback
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Speaker 1: and he said, just an amazing job that Dave called
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Speaker 1: was able to hold onto his job. And and look,
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Speaker 1: I I don't like beating up Dy've called well because
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Speaker 1: he got fired. But the reality is this is a
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Speaker 1: production based business and when you roll out seven double
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Speaker 1: digit law seasons that that production is not there. And uh.
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Speaker 1: And when you when you go into the National Football
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Speaker 1: League and you want to be a part of the
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Speaker 1: National Football legue, whether it be as a coach or
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Speaker 1: a personnel guy, you better have fixedin and you also
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Speaker 1: have the understanding that you could lose your job and
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Speaker 1: that job security is not one of the greatest attractive
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Speaker 1: parts of working in the National Football League. And that's
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Speaker 1: just the reality of it. Track record on the draft
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Speaker 1: side as well, not very strong. At the top of
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Speaker 1: the draft, of course, the first round draft pick history
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Speaker 1: here has not been great, certainly under Dave Caldwell's running
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Speaker 1: from to present. In that time, only four first round
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Speaker 1: draft picks remain on the roster. The the guy has
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Speaker 1: picked the last three years. Brian Allan Henderson Chason. The
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Speaker 1: others are gone for different reasons. Jokels out of the
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Speaker 1: league like Bordles got paid and then he's onto Denver
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Speaker 1: on the league for a while, that's right, and then um,
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Speaker 1: so you can go through that those lists of guys.
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Speaker 1: Dante Fowler is not around here anymore. Jalen Ramsey got
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Speaker 1: traded last year, and then Leonard Foda had was cut
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Speaker 1: at the start of this season. So he had some
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Speaker 1: hits a little later in the draft. But you gotta
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Speaker 1: hit on those big guys, the cornerstones of your franchise,
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Speaker 1: and that just didn't It didn't work at the top
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Speaker 1: of the draft for Dave Caldwell here. No, and uh,
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Speaker 1: look it, when you draft, it's not always just one
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Speaker 1: guy making the pick. I mean, you have it's it's
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Speaker 1: a group effort. You have you know, your college director
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Speaker 1: of pro purse or college director of personnel. Then you
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Speaker 1: have different scouts at different levels, and so it is
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a mix of people that come
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Speaker 1: together to make that decision. But a couple of surprising things.
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Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost, typically on a first round pick,
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Speaker 1: look that's the general manager's pick. And then once you
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Speaker 1: get later in the draft, then he has a tendency
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Speaker 1: to rely more on his scouts, and that's that's typical
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Speaker 1: because a first round pick, I mean, that's your signature pick.
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Speaker 1: General manager is not gonna let anybody else make that
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Speaker 1: decision but him. And with the Jaguars, when you have
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Speaker 1: a first round pick, that's your highest percentage of being
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Speaker 1: able to hit. And for the Jaguars that hasn't been
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Speaker 1: a very high percent And for most organizations, that's the
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Speaker 1: guy that you typically want to get into a second contract.
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Speaker 1: That hasn't happened for the Jaguars, and so it's disappointing
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Speaker 1: from from that aspect, and that those are the foundational players.
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Speaker 1: You know, the draft is the lifeblood of any franchise.
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Speaker 1: And if you're not picking well, and you're not picking
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Speaker 1: well at the top, which is the highest percentage of
6:29
Speaker 1: success rate, then that's a problem. And uh, too many
6:33
Speaker 1: times this recently, this football team hasn't hit. And it's
6:37
Speaker 1: not just Dave Caldwell. I mean you go back to
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Speaker 1: the Shack Harris, I mean this, this football team has
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Speaker 1: not picked very well at the top of the draft,
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Speaker 1: and this team has not been able to find a
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the draft, and that's you gotta find one.
6:49
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Look at the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Kansas City Chiefs are sitting pretty and
6:54
Speaker 1: they obviously got a generational player and Patrick Mahomes, but
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Speaker 1: they knew the importance of the position into where when
7:01
Speaker 1: they had Alex Smith, they still drafted Patrick my Home.
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Speaker 1: And Alex Smith was a really good player and one
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Speaker 1: of the highest rated quarterbacks in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: and you still drafted Patrick Mahomes. Well, you go back
7:12
Speaker 1: to that same year. The Jacksonville Jaguars were coming off
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Speaker 1: of a year in which they had Blake Bortles and
7:18
Speaker 1: they were winning to spite him, and so it was
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Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity to do what the Kansas City Chiefs did.
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Speaker 1: And you didn't even have to trade any picks. All
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Speaker 1: you would have to done to just just take them,
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Speaker 1: and and you didn't do it, And obviously that's a
7:32
Speaker 1: that's a big mistake. And I'm not even sure if
7:35
Speaker 1: the Jaguars did any work on quarterbacks that year, because
7:37
Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell was still a big believer in Blake Bortles
7:41
Speaker 1: for some reason, coming off of the year that he
7:43
Speaker 1: had previously which was terrible. Um, and I like Blake.
7:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a good guy and and
7:49
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy, and he's a he's a football player.
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Speaker 1: But you're not trying to find football players to play quarterback.
7:56
Speaker 1: You're trying to play trying to find quarterbacks to play quarterback.
8:02
Speaker 1: You know you can obviously you have to remember that
8:04
Speaker 1: a couple of year window, Tom Coughlin was at the
8:06
Speaker 1: top of the football world here as well, So that
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Speaker 1: goes into that decision process for that. And see, I'm
8:14
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I'm not going there. I mean, you know,
8:15
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that that's kind of been
8:17
Speaker 1: a little bit of a of a crutch I mean
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Speaker 1: for because you know Tom Coughlin, it's the truth, it's
8:23
Speaker 1: the facts. Well it's the fact that he was he
8:27
Speaker 1: was making he had the ultimate say so. But but
8:29
Speaker 1: did Tom Coughlin go over to personnel and say, okay,
8:32
Speaker 1: I'm running the personnel department. Yeah. Tom Coughlin got more
8:35
Speaker 1: involved in coaching than he did in personnel. So I
8:38
Speaker 1: don't think Tom Coughlin was was in there putting his
8:41
Speaker 1: hands in personnel saying we're picking that guy, and we're
8:43
Speaker 1: picking that guy and we're picking that guy. I don't
8:44
Speaker 1: care what you think. I don't think that was happening,
8:47
Speaker 1: you know, so, Uh, the reality is is that, uh,
8:52
Speaker 1: you know, with Tom Coughlin being involved for a couple
8:54
Speaker 1: of years. I don't know if that ended up buying
8:58
Speaker 1: Dave Colbill from Extra timer or why. But uh, the
9:01
Speaker 1: reality is that he was able to stick around longer
9:03
Speaker 1: because of Tom Coffin, because they wanted in seventeen and
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Speaker 1: one of the high level But I mean it was
9:08
Speaker 1: Tom Coffin making all the calls and draft picks. I mean, look,
9:12
Speaker 1: Tom Coffin is ultimately responsible and that he should have
9:14
Speaker 1: been able to say that year, hey look what about
9:17
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or what about DeShawn Watson. I mean, those
9:20
Speaker 1: would have been too great statements to make and obviously
9:22
Speaker 1: something that he should explored further. But at the same token,
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Speaker 1: I think that Tom, once he took the job, his
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Speaker 1: main focal point. At the beginning of this transition, when
9:31
Speaker 1: he was as an e v P, it was more
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Speaker 1: of a Okay, I know what I do best, and
9:36
Speaker 1: that's coaching. I'm gonna help Doug assemble coaching staff and
9:38
Speaker 1: then we'll worry about the personnel stuff later on, and uh,
9:42
Speaker 1: and that obviously hurt. Tom should have addressed the personnel
9:46
Speaker 1: side of things right then and there, and certainly should
9:48
Speaker 1: have addressed it from the standpoint of, Look, we don't
9:50
Speaker 1: have a quarterback, we don't have a franchise guy, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get one, so let's look at the ones
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Speaker 1: that we can possibly take in the Springs draft. All
9:59
Speaker 1: right now, moving had here, five more games to go,
10:01
Speaker 1: a month to play for the Jaguars here in Trent
10:04
Speaker 1: Balky is the interim general manager. He'll get them through
10:07
Speaker 1: this season in terms of transactions and day to day
10:11
Speaker 1: football operations type of things. Transactions all that. As we said,
10:16
Speaker 1: Doug Marone and the coaching staff are safe through Shod
10:19
Speaker 1: kind of addressed that after the game Sunday as well.
10:23
Speaker 1: So for Doug Marone and the coaching staff, we're gonna
10:26
Speaker 1: have Doug on at five o'clock on the Duck Moron Show. Um,
10:30
Speaker 1: this is what they have. Five games and then who
10:33
Speaker 1: really knows at that point, but you get an idea
10:36
Speaker 1: that there could be some some more changes down the
10:39
Speaker 1: line at some point. So it's gotta be tough for
10:41
Speaker 1: Doug and those guys. Five games to go there. Already
10:44
Speaker 1: I've lost ten in a row, Bogs, and now you've
10:46
Speaker 1: gotta go out and get these guys going for one
10:49
Speaker 1: more month of football. Knowing that changes likely on the
10:52
Speaker 1: way of some kind. Well, I mean, like like I
10:56
Speaker 1: said before, when when you sign up to be a
10:58
Speaker 1: coach or a personnel guy in the National Football League,
11:02
Speaker 1: h change is inevitable. And so I know the dog
11:06
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff they realize that. But it doesn't
11:08
Speaker 1: mean it's it's good, I mean, or we're great. I
11:11
Speaker 1: mean it's it's tough. I mean, it's tough on families,
11:14
Speaker 1: it's tough on organization. And you know, the one thing
11:18
Speaker 1: I definitely feel for anybody that works in the National
11:20
Speaker 1: Football League when a team is not winning is sometimes
11:24
Speaker 1: the family can hear a lot of that noise, whether
11:27
Speaker 1: it be coaches kids, or personnel guys kids, or look
11:31
Speaker 1: even employees of the organization kids. You know, sometimes like
11:35
Speaker 1: oh the Jaguars suck, you know, and they're giving a
11:38
Speaker 1: kid a hard time because Okay, somebody's dad or mom
11:40
Speaker 1: works for the Jaguars, And I mean that's that's kind
11:43
Speaker 1: of the way it is sometimes. But I think coaches
11:46
Speaker 1: coaches know that when when they sign up to be
11:48
Speaker 1: coaches that there can be change and they have to
11:51
Speaker 1: be willing to move. But but it's still it's not
11:54
Speaker 1: a great situation. And yeah, JP there probably will be
11:57
Speaker 1: some more change and we don't know exactly what that
11:59
Speaker 1: entails until the new general manager is hired and he
12:02
Speaker 1: looks at the organization and evaluates everything, and so but
12:06
Speaker 1: it definitely will look different, I think when we roll
12:10
Speaker 1: around thee and this is it's been a tough year.
12:12
Speaker 1: I mean tough year for for everybody you know from COVID.
12:16
Speaker 1: Two coaches and working remotely and you're trying to put
12:20
Speaker 1: together and build a franchise and build an organization and
12:24
Speaker 1: build the concept of team, and a really challenging one
12:27
Speaker 1: for Doug Moroning his coaching staff because of all those
12:31
Speaker 1: things that are different about you know, the COVID things
12:35
Speaker 1: that I mentioned and remote learning not having the ability
12:39
Speaker 1: and so when you do all this and everything is
12:42
Speaker 1: so different. When you have the youngest roster in the
12:43
Speaker 1: National Football League and you trade away a lot of value,
12:47
Speaker 1: valuable veteran veterans, that makes it even harder and so
12:51
Speaker 1: it's hard to succeed when you're in that position in
12:55
Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, no doubt. And you know, just you
12:59
Speaker 1: gotta get of the coaching staff and those guys and
13:01
Speaker 1: the players credit. Yeah, I know they haven't won. That's
13:04
Speaker 1: the result the end game. But um, you know, it
13:08
Speaker 1: has been a little better the last few weeks, just
13:11
Speaker 1: not getting that result at the end of the day,
13:13
Speaker 1: which is we're not into moral victories here, but we've
13:16
Speaker 1: seen other times where a team can can kind of
13:19
Speaker 1: give it up towards the end of the year, at
13:21
Speaker 1: least so far, that has not happened for this team
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Speaker 1: We've got. You know, it's been it's it can happen,
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Speaker 1: and it has happened around the league before. Let's come
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Speaker 1: back in a moment, Logs, let's get into the game
13:31
Speaker 1: this Sunday, the Jags and the Vikings. Mike Glennon will
13:34
Speaker 1: get another start. We'll see what the Jaguars defensive matchup
13:38
Speaker 1: is this week. It's not ideal for the Jags, but
13:41
Speaker 1: we'll break it all down and then at four thirty
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Speaker 1: So the time that he's had in the National Football
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Speaker 1: college at NC State. You know, I think he didn't
17:44
Speaker 1: have a great offensive line, but he's always had a
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18:07
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18:09
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Speaker 1: at four thirty today, So Mike Glennan gets to start again,
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Speaker 1: and you heard him their logs, A lot of the
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Speaker 1: pre snap stuff just felt a little I guess cleaner
18:46
Speaker 1: smoother with Glennon in there. He's been in the league
18:48
Speaker 1: for a long time. That's a big reason why. And
18:51
Speaker 1: what do you think of Glennon last week and what
18:54
Speaker 1: can we expect now and around number two for the vet, Well,
18:59
Speaker 1: I think you would expect things to be cleaner going
19:02
Speaker 1: from a Jake Lewton to Mike Lennon. After all, Mike
19:06
Speaker 1: Lenn's got a lot more experience and not necessarily a
19:09
Speaker 1: ton of more game experience, because now he's six and
19:12
Speaker 1: I think seventeen as a starter, so it's not like
19:15
Speaker 1: he's got ten years of starting under his belt, but
19:19
Speaker 1: certainly a lot more than Jake Lewton. But he's got Look,
19:22
Speaker 1: he's been around, he's been in this system before, and
19:26
Speaker 1: when I say this system. Last year he was with
19:28
Speaker 1: the Raiders and so he was with Jay's brother John,
19:32
Speaker 1: and the systems are very similar, and so I think
19:35
Speaker 1: that helps. But the reality is is that Mike Lennon
19:39
Speaker 1: is what he is JP and that's a journeyman quarterback.
19:43
Speaker 1: And uh, it's nice to have him kind of be
19:46
Speaker 1: a steady enforce for an offense. But at the same token,
19:50
Speaker 1: there's no excitement associated with Mike Glennon being the Jaguars
19:54
Speaker 1: quarterback because you realize that he is a journeyman quarterback
19:59
Speaker 1: and the excitement will come, hopefully one day when this
20:03
Speaker 1: team finds a franchise quarterback that can lead them onto
20:06
Speaker 1: big things in the National Football League. And so I
20:11
Speaker 1: hope that Mike Glennon plays well and I hope he
20:13
Speaker 1: continues to get a little bit better because the inactivity
20:16
Speaker 1: that he's had for a significant amount of time doesn't
20:19
Speaker 1: help any quarterback. But I like the way that he
20:21
Speaker 1: protected the football, but he missed some throws in the
20:24
Speaker 1: game that could have been the difference in winning and losing,
20:28
Speaker 1: and hopefully he can make those throws this week against
20:32
Speaker 1: a Minnesota Vikings team that is going to be able
20:34
Speaker 1: to put up a lot of points on the board.
20:36
Speaker 1: There's make no mistake about the Vikings are going to
20:38
Speaker 1: score some point. All right, we'll get to that matchup
20:42
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars defense. Here a little bit. Let's hear
20:44
Speaker 1: from Mike Glennan his review of last week's game, how
20:48
Speaker 1: he found out he was going to start for a
20:50
Speaker 1: second straight week. As far as the conversation, the roally
20:55
Speaker 1: wasn't much. Just told me we're going to you again
20:58
Speaker 1: this week. I was left at that um. As far
21:02
Speaker 1: as a week to week, I mean, I understand it.
21:04
Speaker 1: It's a performance based industry and you know, all those
21:09
Speaker 1: stuff have shown flashes and it's about consistency and now
21:13
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah. Doug Marone earlier this week Logs
21:17
Speaker 1: said that those asked, hey, is is this Glennon's gig
21:19
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. He's like, WHOA, Well,
21:21
Speaker 1: we know every position is day to day, week to
21:25
Speaker 1: week in the NFL, including the quarterback position. Down the
21:28
Speaker 1: stretch here he could have a couple of weapons back
21:30
Speaker 1: on the field. Outside Connolly and Chart, the receivers have
21:34
Speaker 1: both been limited this week on the practice field. They
21:37
Speaker 1: both missed last week's game. Colin Johnson stepped up and
21:40
Speaker 1: had a big game for him on the nice long
21:43
Speaker 1: touchdown run and took advantage of his opportunity to step
21:46
Speaker 1: in there last week. And of course, logs, when when
21:49
Speaker 1: you have a guy like James Robinson playing as well
21:51
Speaker 1: as he is and as reliable as he is, that
21:55
Speaker 1: helps everybody on offense, when you can get that running
21:58
Speaker 1: game going, and then obviously bring some guys you know,
22:02
Speaker 1: moving guys around on the defense, and when you have
22:05
Speaker 1: James Robinson doing his thing, that helps everybody else out
22:08
Speaker 1: too well. There's no doubt. And James Robinson's coming off
22:12
Speaker 1: his career best game as far as total yardage output
22:15
Speaker 1: in uh in a ballgame, and and he's a He's
22:18
Speaker 1: a great player. I mean, make no mistake about it.
22:20
Speaker 1: The only thing that James Robinson doesn't have is the
22:24
Speaker 1: breakaway speed to where he can just run away from
22:27
Speaker 1: a pack. But he's got everything else. He's got the
22:29
Speaker 1: decision making, the vision, the efficiency and the power, the
22:34
Speaker 1: commitment to smarts. He's got everything that you want. And
22:38
Speaker 1: on the Colin Johnson touchdown, I don't know if you
22:40
Speaker 1: happen to watch Jags Wired last night, j P, but
22:43
Speaker 1: tellustrated this play on the board and then gonna be
22:45
Speaker 1: doing it again. We're gonna show it again tonight on
22:48
Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access and on the Colin Johnson touchdown catch.
22:52
Speaker 1: I called it the j Robin because the Cleveland Browns
22:55
Speaker 1: were up in the box with the safety which makes eight,
22:59
Speaker 1: and so you're leaving the corners a little bit out
23:02
Speaker 1: on the island with a deep middle safety, and whether
23:05
Speaker 1: you play a three D zone in that situation or
23:08
Speaker 1: you decide to match up in man, it's still leaving
23:11
Speaker 1: the corners essentially out on an island. And so they
23:15
Speaker 1: ran a clearing route by Killian Keelan Cole on the
23:18
Speaker 1: left and then Colin Johnson was running a crossing route
23:21
Speaker 1: all the way across the field and Browns were a
23:24
Speaker 1: man but there was no safety to help that corner
23:27
Speaker 1: cover Colin Johnson, because that's safety was worrying about. James
23:31
Speaker 1: Robinson and j Gruden talked about this play I think yesterday,
23:34
Speaker 1: which I kind of made me happy because that's the
23:37
Speaker 1: play that I picked the draw and like, cool, the
23:39
Speaker 1: coordinator picked one that I really like, and uh, and
23:43
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see how defenses react to James
23:47
Speaker 1: Robinson and they respect him, they respect the running game,
23:50
Speaker 1: they brought the eighth guy in the box with the
23:53
Speaker 1: play action fate. All of those eight guys were moving
23:56
Speaker 1: forward so that none of them were able to recover
23:59
Speaker 1: to be a factor on the Colin Johnson catch, and
24:02
Speaker 1: it was a touchdown. So one of the reasons why
24:05
Speaker 1: that James Robinson is a really good football player, and
24:07
Speaker 1: I just hate to think of where this organization, this
24:10
Speaker 1: franchise would be without him this year because he's been steady,
24:14
Speaker 1: he's been good, and on a football team that has
24:18
Speaker 1: really had little else that's been steady and good as
24:21
Speaker 1: far as the wide receivers go. It's nice to have
24:25
Speaker 1: DJ Chark back, it's nice to have Chris Connelly back.
24:29
Speaker 1: But at the same token, I also think that Keelan
24:31
Speaker 1: Cole is a good football player, especially a good football
24:34
Speaker 1: player when he's playing the ex position, which is probably
24:36
Speaker 1: a little bit more natural position. And then Chris Conney
24:40
Speaker 1: is a good football player too. But I also like
24:42
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson. So I don't want to say there's um
24:45
Speaker 1: no drop off when these guys played last week, because
24:48
Speaker 1: DJ Charks a Pro Bowl caliber type players, So there
24:50
Speaker 1: is some drop off, but not as much I think
24:53
Speaker 1: as with some teams at that position. That's the one
24:56
Speaker 1: position the Jaguars have done a pretty good job personnel
24:59
Speaker 1: wise with is the wide receiver group. One more note
25:04
Speaker 1: here on Robinson since we're kind of on the topic here.
25:07
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned all that bringing extra guys in
25:10
Speaker 1: the box. Now he's facing that a lot of times,
25:13
Speaker 1: and he's still producing with with all that stuff, and
25:16
Speaker 1: he's still and we had the stat last week he's
25:18
Speaker 1: only had eleven negative runs all year. That's still true.
25:21
Speaker 1: He didn't have any last week. He just keeps building
25:23
Speaker 1: onto it somehow finds a way to always get forward
25:26
Speaker 1: even though now, especially this time of year, teams know
25:30
Speaker 1: what what he has to offer. That that says something
25:33
Speaker 1: about the way he's played this season, which is remarkable
25:36
Speaker 1: to see. Well, no doubt, because if you're an opponent,
25:39
Speaker 1: you're you're the defensive coordinator, what are you worrying about?
25:41
Speaker 1: You're worrying about Gardner Minshew or Mike Lennar or Jake Lewton.
25:44
Speaker 1: Hell no, you know you're you're worrying about James Robinson
25:48
Speaker 1: and uh and they just keeping you're saying, you're one
25:51
Speaker 1: safety back to prevent a big play, you know, so
25:54
Speaker 1: give James Robson a lot of credit and one of
25:57
Speaker 1: the plays that I also tellustrated last night for Jaguar JP.
26:03
Speaker 1: You remember when the Jaguars were on the potential game
26:05
Speaker 1: tying drive and they came out and they were throwing
26:07
Speaker 1: the ball around a little bit and have some success.
26:09
Speaker 1: And I made a comment during the broadcast and say, hey,
26:12
Speaker 1: don't forget about James Robinson. Well, the very next play
26:15
Speaker 1: they hand the ball off to James Robinson. It was
26:17
Speaker 1: kind of like a draw look because Glennon was in
26:20
Speaker 1: the shotgun and he reaches over to his right and
26:22
Speaker 1: hands the ball to James Robinson. And it was such
26:25
Speaker 1: a thing of beauty of what James Robinson did on
26:28
Speaker 1: that play. Because the Browns had what essentially was a
26:32
Speaker 1: six man box and the Jaguars had their five offensive lineman,
26:36
Speaker 1: so you gotta find somebody to block that six guy
26:40
Speaker 1: in the box with Tyler Effort was split out and
26:43
Speaker 1: he was a little bit detached from the offensive line group,
26:46
Speaker 1: so he has to come all the way into the
26:49
Speaker 1: formation and block a linebacker, and it's a very hard
26:52
Speaker 1: block and it requires a little bit of time. So
26:55
Speaker 1: when James is hitting this on the draw, he actually
26:59
Speaker 1: kind of veers back to the side where Tyler Eiffort
27:02
Speaker 1: is at to allow the linebacker to freeze just enough
27:06
Speaker 1: to allow Eiffort to get in position. And then also
27:09
Speaker 1: that allows Brandon Lender the center to get a little
27:11
Speaker 1: bit better position on the tackle. And then he breaks
27:13
Speaker 1: it off to the left side where you have the
27:15
Speaker 1: guard in the center or the guard and the left
27:17
Speaker 1: tackle kind of crossing blocking an end in linebacker combination.
27:21
Speaker 1: It was a thing of beauty. I mean an absolute
27:23
Speaker 1: thing of beauty. Where James set this up. And you know,
27:27
Speaker 1: I've watched Jaguars running backs for a long time, ever
27:31
Speaker 1: since this team came in existence. From Fred Taylor to
27:34
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones drew and Fred was an unbelievable talent of
27:38
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber back and Maury Jones Drew a
27:41
Speaker 1: special back. And and I don't want to say that
27:44
Speaker 1: they never did anything like that, but they didn't quite
27:48
Speaker 1: have that knack for setting up things because they just
27:52
Speaker 1: had great speed. They just go, you know, and they
27:54
Speaker 1: beat people from the steve and power. Yeah, And and
27:58
Speaker 1: James can't do that. He's not a guy that's just
28:00
Speaker 1: gonna outrun anybody. But he's gonna out efficient people and
28:04
Speaker 1: he's gonna outsmart people, and that that play JP was
28:07
Speaker 1: an absolute thing of beauty. And if you haven't seen it,
28:10
Speaker 1: hopefully the Jaguars put it up on Twitter because it's
28:13
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to, you know, pump myself up here.
28:16
Speaker 1: This is about James Robinson and the play that in
28:19
Speaker 1: the job that he did on this particular play. Everybody
28:22
Speaker 1: watch the Jeff Logavan segment on Twitter coming up a
28:25
Speaker 1: little bit later. I'm kidding, of course, Uh course not.
28:31
Speaker 1: It will be soon. We're back in a moment. Either.
28:37
Speaker 1: Not my department, you know, so I think it's Joe
28:40
Speaker 1: Fortunato's department. Maybe he might be. It might be we'll
28:44
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28:47
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars all right now ten consecutive losses. Welcome back, Jaguars,
33:40
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33:44
Speaker 1: us now on the program. Tony, good afternoon. First of all,
33:49
Speaker 1: good to see it. How we're hanging in there, Tony,
33:54
Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm doing outstanding? J P. Chili
33:59
Speaker 1: for me it I'm doing good. It's like seventy degrees
34:04
Speaker 1: outside this absolutely, there's no doubt about it. I'm stove
34:11
Speaker 1: a long time. It's like it's like a warm day
34:13
Speaker 1: out there today. It's you can see I got my
34:19
Speaker 1: as what's it called on my hoodie? I see that, yes,
34:25
Speaker 1: inside that you know, you can turn on the heat
34:27
Speaker 1: and doors to Let's get to the big news of
34:30
Speaker 1: the week though, we we we obviously have discussed this
34:33
Speaker 1: on Monday with you, Tony, but a few days have
34:36
Speaker 1: gone by now since the Dave Caldwell firing. Um, anything
34:42
Speaker 1: new at least in your mindset about that. And you
34:46
Speaker 1: know now you just know what's going to happen. That's
34:49
Speaker 1: there's going to be change, and we're gonna have an
34:52
Speaker 1: interesting first week of January. It feels like, well, I mean,
34:55
Speaker 1: I think we all sense it was coming. I don't
35:00
Speaker 1: I guess we didn't know the timing, but we knew
35:02
Speaker 1: it was coming and that it was probably inevitable based
35:05
Speaker 1: on the record and kind of how the season was going.
35:07
Speaker 1: And um, and that's where we ended up, and that's
35:11
Speaker 1: where we are now, and that's where it's going to be.
35:16
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever I don't know if
35:18
Speaker 1: there's ever the right time to do anything, but but
35:21
Speaker 1: I do know this, when you have three other organizations
35:24
Speaker 1: in the National Football League that already had had relieved
35:27
Speaker 1: their general managers of duties. And if you want to
35:30
Speaker 1: be I don't want to say in the race, but
35:32
Speaker 1: if you want to be in the conversation with certain people,
35:35
Speaker 1: because even though around the league it's it's it's expected
35:40
Speaker 1: that you wait until the season to finish before you
35:43
Speaker 1: start talking to people, the reality is that those conversations
35:46
Speaker 1: happen all the time before seasons end. And so if
35:50
Speaker 1: you want to be able to I don't want to
35:52
Speaker 1: say be first in line, but be in the mix.
35:54
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to go ahead and and start
35:56
Speaker 1: having those conversations because I mean, you look at the
36:02
Speaker 1: number of jobs that already opened yet Houston open, you
36:05
Speaker 1: have Atlanta opened, and then Detroit Fire fired their GM
36:09
Speaker 1: the week before, so it's and you have head coaches.
36:13
Speaker 1: I think there's could be as many as seven or
36:14
Speaker 1: eight jobs open this year. So, um, we're still waiting
36:17
Speaker 1: to see if it happened Doug mor Own. But uh,
36:21
Speaker 1: if you want to have your GM in place to
36:24
Speaker 1: allow and to work with that individual to pick your
36:26
Speaker 1: head coach, I imagine you want it done before that.
36:29
Speaker 1: You know, pretty quickly once the season ends, because it's
36:31
Speaker 1: gonna be a mad rush I think for head coaching. Now.
36:35
Speaker 1: Part of that too is that you can't talk to
36:38
Speaker 1: GM candidates who are still have a season going on, right,
36:42
Speaker 1: I mean you have to wait until all that that's
36:45
Speaker 1: what if that's something that you can talk to the
36:50
Speaker 1: rules no JP that those conversations happened. I'm looking at
36:55
Speaker 1: what would be wrong if somebody that was aligned with
37:00
Speaker 1: ownership decided to call an agent and say, hey, look,
37:04
Speaker 1: you know, we really like your guy and just want
37:07
Speaker 1: to let you know that we understand that we can't
37:10
Speaker 1: have a conversation with your guy. He's got a job
37:14
Speaker 1: right now, but we just want to let you know that, hey,
37:17
Speaker 1: we want to talk to him at the end of
37:19
Speaker 1: the year. And here's kind of the parameters what we
37:21
Speaker 1: were thinking about. The job description or you know, page
37:24
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be somewhere around this, but you know, hey, look,
37:27
Speaker 1: we don't want to talk to your client. We just
37:29
Speaker 1: want to give you an idea of what the parameters are.
37:31
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is that that happened. And uh
37:35
Speaker 1: and if if the league continues to I don't want
37:38
Speaker 1: to say turn a blind eye to it, not admit
37:40
Speaker 1: it because they it's not like they're addressing it. But
37:42
Speaker 1: the reality is that those things happen, so do you
37:48
Speaker 1: haven't the Let's get back to this game now. We've
37:50
Speaker 1: got plenty of time obviously to talking about the the
37:53
Speaker 1: GM role and everything moving ahead, and we'll have, as
37:56
Speaker 1: we said, an interesting first week of January. This week,
38:00
Speaker 1: it's an interesting week for the Jaguars defense against the
38:02
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings team that all of a sudden is getting warm,
38:07
Speaker 1: especially in the offensive side. Kirk Cousins with a rating
38:10
Speaker 1: or better the last five weeks or four and one
38:13
Speaker 1: of that span. Feeland is off the COVID list this week.
38:16
Speaker 1: Jefferson is in the running for Rookie of the Year
38:18
Speaker 1: at receiver. They've got the running back Dalvin Cook second
38:22
Speaker 1: in the league in attempts and yardage, and Tony They've
38:25
Speaker 1: got it going really well. And the matchup against this
38:29
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, I must say, is not ideal. Let's put
38:32
Speaker 1: it that way, Well, is there an ideal matchup right
38:35
Speaker 1: now for the Jags defense based on all the injuries
38:37
Speaker 1: they've had, Probably all that's going on. Probably, I mean,
38:40
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the Jets would be a good one. I mean,
38:43
Speaker 1: a team that hasn't won a football game this year.
38:45
Speaker 1: So no, it's tough, and they've got good players and
38:48
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins coming off the UM uh NFC Player of
38:53
Speaker 1: the Week UM last week after a really good game
38:56
Speaker 1: over three yards, three touchdowns, UM played out standing football
39:00
Speaker 1: all brought their team back late against the Carolina Panthers.
39:02
Speaker 1: So you know, we know about Dalvin Cook. He is
39:04
Speaker 1: a little beat up. UM. I think the one good
39:06
Speaker 1: thing is it's not a real physical offensive line and
39:09
Speaker 1: so maybe you can get after that a little bit.
39:10
Speaker 1: But they got some good, really good skilled players, really
39:14
Speaker 1: good skilled players, and including the tight end group, even
39:17
Speaker 1: though IRV Smith is is dinged up and didn't practice
39:20
Speaker 1: yesterday and today. The Rudolph's a good player and two
39:24
Speaker 1: good receivers and pretty interesting. I know Tony is a
39:28
Speaker 1: big subscriber to PFF, but he's like the highest rated
39:31
Speaker 1: receiver according to PF. That there is a National Football League, which,
39:36
Speaker 1: like I know that a lot of times you can
39:37
Speaker 1: take some of that stuff and throw it out the window,
39:39
Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to offensive linement. But for the
39:41
Speaker 1: skill players, some of that stuff I think is definitely
39:45
Speaker 1: applicable and can be used. But to have the highest
39:48
Speaker 1: rating of a wide receiver by PFF. That's a pretty
39:50
Speaker 1: pretty strong accomplishment. And if you look at him as
39:52
Speaker 1: far as yardage, I think he's eight, but in receptions
39:55
Speaker 1: he's twenty four. And so that I'll tell you that
39:57
Speaker 1: every time he touches the ball, he's getting a lot
39:59
Speaker 1: of r good player, I guess there's yeah, good player.
40:05
Speaker 1: And how about the Jaguars secondary of this week? Curious
40:09
Speaker 1: to see who's back. Sydney Jones sniffing around there he
40:12
Speaker 1: could be back. Could Josh Jones be back in the
40:15
Speaker 1: back end? They need all the help they can get.
40:18
Speaker 1: Certainly this week likes, Yeah, they need Sidney Jones. I
40:22
Speaker 1: would think more than anybody. And I know that Josh
40:26
Speaker 1: Jones could be back, but he's more of think of
40:30
Speaker 1: a box type of safety. If he were more of
40:32
Speaker 1: a free type of safety, then I would say, yeah,
40:34
Speaker 1: that's a great, great to get him back. But Sydney Jones,
40:37
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, he's he's your your best corner.
40:39
Speaker 1: He was your best corner even when when you had C. J.
40:42
Speaker 1: Henderson that was out there on the field. He's been consistent.
40:45
Speaker 1: I think he ended up starting about five games this
40:47
Speaker 1: will be number six if he's able to play and
40:49
Speaker 1: looks like he's practicing now, so that's a positive sign.
40:52
Speaker 1: But the issue is is that they have two really
40:54
Speaker 1: good receivers, so Ken Trey Herndon, if he's going to
40:57
Speaker 1: be the starter on the opposite side, can he handle that?
41:00
Speaker 1: And then what would you do at the nickels spot?
41:02
Speaker 1: To Scott still play the nickel and he struggled a
41:05
Speaker 1: little bit against Landry. He was not exactly a speedy
41:07
Speaker 1: guy in the Cleveland Browns. Or would Barkoo be a
41:10
Speaker 1: potential nickel guy? I don't see that happening. But this
41:14
Speaker 1: is this Jack war secondary has a lot of challenges, Jeff.
41:18
Speaker 1: I don't think Barkoo is a short, short area guy
41:21
Speaker 1: that you need to be in nickel and he's definitely
41:23
Speaker 1: he's an outside guy. Who else do you play? You know,
41:31
Speaker 1: do you have any other guys that you can play?
41:34
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Gregg Mayben and he's been with
41:36
Speaker 1: the Jaguars I think for two days of practice prior
41:40
Speaker 1: to the game last week, and can can he get
41:42
Speaker 1: up to speed on what the Jaguars are doing to
41:44
Speaker 1: be a player in the reality is anytime you claim
41:47
Speaker 1: a player off of waivers. I mean, what type of
41:49
Speaker 1: quality player you talking about. I mean, he's probably a
41:52
Speaker 1: journeyman type of player, because that's how you got him.
41:54
Speaker 1: So the other question I think that is in my
41:57
Speaker 1: mind is that you know you lose Von Hamilton's because
42:00
Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost, you gotta stop Dalvin Cook.
42:03
Speaker 1: And if you don't have Von Hamilton's, what do you do?
42:05
Speaker 1: I mean, who who's gonna play the nose? Then who's
42:08
Speaker 1: gonna play the three? And and can constant play the nose?
42:11
Speaker 1: And if he plays the nose, who's gonna play the
42:13
Speaker 1: three technique? And it's not like there's a plethora of
42:16
Speaker 1: defensive lineman on this roster or on the practice squad. Right.
42:21
Speaker 1: The depth is certainly an issue there on the defensive
42:24
Speaker 1: line now, and that's where it starts on the defensive side,
42:27
Speaker 1: certainly against Cook. You know he Dalvin is one of
42:30
Speaker 1: the most explosive backs in the league. We know about Henry,
42:33
Speaker 1: but the way this guy runs, uh Tony is just
42:39
Speaker 1: he can break it at any moment and superstar speed.
42:42
Speaker 1: For Cook, well, he's so elusive JP your point, I mean,
42:48
Speaker 1: he's a guy who is shift. He's great in the
42:50
Speaker 1: open field, He's a good receiver, great the screen game. Um.
42:54
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's not a powerful guy, but a sneaky power.
42:57
Speaker 1: He will run through arm tackles. Um. I mean I
43:00
Speaker 1: thought and Jeff, I mean you remember I thought he
43:02
Speaker 1: was one of the best backs coming out of the
43:04
Speaker 1: draft and it was the wenter Bord that and McCaffrey draft.
43:06
Speaker 1: I thought he was just dynamic watching him with Border State. So, UM,
43:10
Speaker 1: he's proved you thought he was the best of the bunch.
43:12
Speaker 1: I did. I mean, I think he just has stud Now.
43:15
Speaker 1: Obviously mccratt and McCaffrey's probably ended up being the best
43:17
Speaker 1: of the bunch, no doubt about that. Um. But he
43:20
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43:26
Speaker 1: but has certainly bounced back from that. Let's come back
43:29
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43:34
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43:36
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47:22
Speaker 1: Sunday was tough. Uh, there's no doubt. UM sitting and
47:26
Speaker 1: watching it on TV, UM there was some obviously some frustration,
47:31
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I really like to see
47:32
Speaker 1: how the guys went out there and competed in this
47:34
Speaker 1: adverse situation. And uh, you know, obviously we fell short
47:38
Speaker 1: and that's not what our goal is m But but
47:41
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of credit to our players
47:42
Speaker 1: through this transition this past week. Todd washed defensive coordinator today.
47:49
Speaker 1: He missed last week's game and had to watch it
47:52
Speaker 1: from a hotel room where he was quarantined for ten
47:55
Speaker 1: straight days. Welcome Back Taguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick
47:59
Speaker 1: Tony was selly, Jeff Loghman, the Jags and the Vikings
48:03
Speaker 1: coming up, and the coaching staff kind of getting back together.
48:06
Speaker 1: Todd washed back in the practice field this week. Jason
48:09
Speaker 1: Rebovich is back. Stukes is still away from the team.
48:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, there was a lot of moving parts last
48:16
Speaker 1: week for the Jaguars on defense on the practice field
48:19
Speaker 1: and then on the game field as well. Joe Dana
48:22
Speaker 1: had to call the plays on defense a week ago,
48:24
Speaker 1: and I think Todd's glad to be out of that
48:27
Speaker 1: hotel room logs. I'll say that. Yeah, I mean, do
48:31
Speaker 1: you think uh, I don't think they like locked him
48:34
Speaker 1: up or anything, and said you can't go anywhere, but uh,
48:38
Speaker 1: and look, he didn't want to talk a whole lot
48:39
Speaker 1: about the cold situation, but a tough situation to be in.
48:44
Speaker 1: And uh, credit to him and also the staff because
48:49
Speaker 1: they were able to be involved actively all week long
48:52
Speaker 1: in the game plan and and Doug Brown talked about
48:54
Speaker 1: it later in a week he said, look, you know,
48:56
Speaker 1: we didn't have our guys which was essentially for about
48:58
Speaker 1: two hours a day, which was a practice us, he said,
49:00
Speaker 1: but everywhere else they were involved. And so glad, I mean,
49:05
Speaker 1: what a tough situation to be in, and that you
49:07
Speaker 1: have an extremely young defense and then all of a
49:09
Speaker 1: sudden you're hit with four significant injuries to where four
49:13
Speaker 1: guys have to go on I R. And you start
49:15
Speaker 1: to play guys that haven't played and their rookies, and
49:18
Speaker 1: now you've got to get them ready to play, but
49:20
Speaker 1: yet your coaches can't be there to instruct them and
49:23
Speaker 1: to encourage them. And as a player, that's got to
49:26
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a lonely feeling. But that's
49:29
Speaker 1: just the way it is in this COVID world we
49:31
Speaker 1: live in. That's for sure, no doubt. Avery Jones was
49:34
Speaker 1: out there running defensive line drills last week for a
49:37
Speaker 1: little while, Tony. But it was tough sledding. And give
49:41
Speaker 1: the guys credit because they worked hard and they figured
49:44
Speaker 1: out a way to get around it. Um. It was
49:46
Speaker 1: less an ideal Listen, none of us are living an
49:48
Speaker 1: ideal world right now. Um. And it's tough and it's
49:51
Speaker 1: and you hated for the coaching staff to have to
49:54
Speaker 1: go through that. But I give the players a lot
49:56
Speaker 1: of credit because it came out and fought that played hard.
49:58
Speaker 1: It's one thing that this team's has done instantly, and
50:02
Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna be the case down the
50:03
Speaker 1: stretch to the five to go. On defense, the Jaguars
50:08
Speaker 1: have veteran safety Jared Wilson on the team. He missed
50:11
Speaker 1: some time earlier in the year on i R, but
50:13
Speaker 1: he's been back out there and the Jaguars have nominated
50:16
Speaker 1: Wilson for the Athletes and Action Bart Starr Award. This
50:19
Speaker 1: is the award that Calais Campbell won a couple of
50:22
Speaker 1: years ago, and uh it's for the NFL player who
50:26
Speaker 1: best exemplifies outstanding character and leadership in the home, on
50:30
Speaker 1: the field, and in the community. So congratulations to Jared
50:33
Speaker 1: Wilson for the nomination and well deserving longs. Yeah, he's uh.
50:39
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you guys have had a
50:41
Speaker 1: chance to talk with him at any extended a period
50:43
Speaker 1: of time. But when when we were up in Minnesota
50:46
Speaker 1: with the practices with the Minnesota Vikings, what was that
50:49
Speaker 1: a year ago? I guess it was. I had the
50:52
Speaker 1: chance to talk with him and visit with him a
50:54
Speaker 1: couple of different times. And he's one of the most
50:56
Speaker 1: fun guys and interesting guys have talked to e extremely intelligent,
50:59
Speaker 1: well ball Uh, definitely have great conversations with him about football,
51:05
Speaker 1: but also a lot of other things. And and Todd
51:07
Speaker 1: Washed his close about him. Todd Washed talked today extensively
51:10
Speaker 1: about Jared Wilson about how much of a leader he
51:13
Speaker 1: is and how he commands the room and how guys
51:17
Speaker 1: respect him, and that's a lot. I mean, that's the
51:20
Speaker 1: tremendous saying about him. And one thing that we notice,
51:23
Speaker 1: I think is is just football fans and obviously analysts
51:27
Speaker 1: for for the Jaguars, is that how much better the
51:29
Speaker 1: Jaguars secondary plays when Jared Wilson is back there versus
51:34
Speaker 1: when he's not back there as a group, and I
51:37
Speaker 1: think that's the most significant compliment you can give anybody,
51:40
Speaker 1: and that boy, the team just plays better when they've
51:43
Speaker 1: got him, and everybody else plays better around him because
51:46
Speaker 1: of him. And so I don't know if you can
51:48
Speaker 1: say enough positive things about a Jared Wilson. He had
51:52
Speaker 1: to buy this time around here, Tony and kind of
51:54
Speaker 1: back up those guys from that team, and he's kind
51:59
Speaker 1: of hung around and now he's got his opportunity in
52:01
Speaker 1: the in the secondary here Tony. Oh yeah. He started
52:04
Speaker 1: off as a best teams guy and he worked his
52:06
Speaker 1: tale off and you know it was a guy that
52:08
Speaker 1: you know, was had to fight every year. And uh,
52:11
Speaker 1: I think he showed glimpse early that like, hey, this
52:14
Speaker 1: is a guy who's gonna um work his tail off
52:16
Speaker 1: and on special teams. And when he got in there,
52:19
Speaker 1: he looked like he could do some nice things. You know,
52:21
Speaker 1: you know who else is like that a little bit
52:23
Speaker 1: this year and a smaller sample size, Daniel Thomas. I mean,
52:26
Speaker 1: if you look at you talk to the coaches, he
52:27
Speaker 1: kind of set the tone on um how he how
52:32
Speaker 1: he performed on special teams, and I think that earned
52:34
Speaker 1: the trust that when he went out there he'd be okay.
52:37
Speaker 1: And I think Jerald wasn't did the same thing over
52:39
Speaker 1: a longer period of time obviously because he had guys
52:41
Speaker 1: who were established starters in front of him. Um and
52:43
Speaker 1: so good for him. So now the next trick is
52:49
Speaker 1: to see if we can get James Robinson a Pro Bowl.
52:54
Speaker 1: Not there won't be a game this year, of course,
52:56
Speaker 1: but there still will be a Pro Bowl team picked.
52:59
Speaker 1: And you know, he's got a shot. It's a tough
53:02
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit of a long shot though,
53:03
Speaker 1: considering the record everything going on. But if he keeps
53:06
Speaker 1: putting up numbers, you never know, right, guys, James Robinson
53:10
Speaker 1: could get there. I think so. I mean it's gonna
53:14
Speaker 1: be I mean, I think he deserves it. But at
53:16
Speaker 1: the same token, will he get there JP, that's a
53:19
Speaker 1: that's a tough ask because playing on a one and
53:22
Speaker 1: ten small market football team that hasn't been very good lately,
53:26
Speaker 1: and that's that's hard to accomplish. The reality is, though,
53:30
Speaker 1: that he deserves to be on a Pro Bowl, a
53:34
Speaker 1: f C squad. How many tailbacks do they take I
53:36
Speaker 1: mean they take like two or three guys, right, and
53:39
Speaker 1: that right, that's right. Yeah. I just think it's tough.
53:43
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's really tough. I mean
53:44
Speaker 1: you look at the a f C and you look
53:46
Speaker 1: at running backs and you have to start looking at
53:48
Speaker 1: the guys are on, you know, kind of established teams.
53:51
Speaker 1: And you have you have two backs in in Cleveland
53:54
Speaker 1: and both Kareem Hunt and one of them for sure
53:56
Speaker 1: possibly both of those guys could end up going. You
53:59
Speaker 1: have Derek Henry obviously he's in there. That leaves one spot. Um,
54:03
Speaker 1: and if you go through it, I mean it becomes
54:05
Speaker 1: really difficult for a guy. Is Jeff said, you know,
54:08
Speaker 1: no one's paying attention to the Jaguars have lost ten
54:11
Speaker 1: straight small market undrafted guy. So, um, I think you do.
54:17
Speaker 1: I think he deserves a shot absolutely. I think in
54:20
Speaker 1: JP we talked about if this was a normal year
54:23
Speaker 1: where they actually played the Pro Bowl and there's gonna
54:25
Speaker 1: be a bunch of alternates. I think he for sure
54:27
Speaker 1: ends up in Orlando or wherever the heck they were
54:29
Speaker 1: going on the game this year. So um, I mean,
54:33
Speaker 1: he he has he has been remarkable. I don't care
54:35
Speaker 1: if he makes a Pro Bowl or not. He has
54:37
Speaker 1: had a remarkable year. Jeff has said at multiple times
54:39
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, where would this team be without him?
54:46
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be good, right question? No, Josh Jacobs another guy, Yeah,
54:52
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, another guy JP. But uh, I mean, look,
54:56
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs also has a team that's been pretty competitive.
55:01
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars have one win and and I
55:04
Speaker 1: think Jay Gruden said it last week he said, can
55:06
Speaker 1: you imagine what James Robinson's output would be if the
55:11
Speaker 1: Jaguars were able to play with a lead occasionally towards
55:15
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game, and where you can
55:18
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to James Robinson, allow him to
55:21
Speaker 1: kill the clock and get more touches. I mean that
55:24
Speaker 1: it would be tremendous. But uh. But nonetheless, I think
55:27
Speaker 1: I think the people in the National Football League that
55:29
Speaker 1: watch film and and watch it, I think they appreciate
55:32
Speaker 1: James Robinson. And every week that the Jaguars getting ready
55:35
Speaker 1: to face somebody from Mike Tomlin on down, every other
55:38
Speaker 1: coach that the Jaguars have based, one of the first
55:40
Speaker 1: name out of their mouths has been James Robinson. The
55:43
Speaker 1: fan base I think, and I say the fan base,
55:46
Speaker 1: the NFL fan base, there may be a lot of
55:48
Speaker 1: them that still don't even know who the hell James
55:50
Speaker 1: Robinson is. I mean, that's just the reality. Like Tony said,
55:52
Speaker 1: he was undrafted, and when you come in and you're undrafted,
55:55
Speaker 1: nobody knows who you are, so that all of a
55:57
Speaker 1: sudden they keep seeing a name. The one thing I
55:59
Speaker 1: think that has helped j Robinson, I think it's helped
56:01
Speaker 1: every NFL player is the fantasy output, because James has
56:05
Speaker 1: continued to be a pretty good fantasy player. And I'm
56:08
Speaker 1: sure there's some people out there in the draft and
56:09
Speaker 1: I'm really late and we're very happy to have him.
56:12
Speaker 1: But fantasy certainly helps the exposure for a guy like
56:15
Speaker 1: James Robinson certainly does. Final thoughts about the game coming
56:20
Speaker 1: up Sunday, the Jaguars and the Vikings. The Jags that
56:24
Speaker 1: want intend, the Vikings need the game certainly to keep
56:28
Speaker 1: pace in the NFC playoff picture. The offense is playing
56:31
Speaker 1: well up there historically obviously a tough place to play,
56:35
Speaker 1: but the fans will not be an issue this week. Tony,
56:39
Speaker 1: what is your feeling on Thursday going into Sunday's game, Listen,
56:44
Speaker 1: it's tough for all things we talked about, they got
56:46
Speaker 1: really good skill set of skill positions, and uh, this
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Speaker 1: is a team that's beat up defensively. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're not great defensively than theirselves. So maybe you can
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Speaker 1: get something going and score some points. And we talked
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Speaker 1: about James Robinson, but going up to Minnesota for with
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Speaker 1: the plan of team that's fighting to stay in the
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Speaker 1: playoff point you've bought tennant Row, I think it's tough.
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Speaker 1: It's tough task. Yeah, definitely a tough task. Of the
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings are a little bit on a roll. They
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Speaker 1: won four out of their last five. They can score
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Speaker 1: some points. Their defense is young, though, and so if
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Speaker 1: if Mike Glennon can get a little hot, get a
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Speaker 1: little bit better than what he was this pass game
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Speaker 1: and the receivers can have significant games against a very
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Speaker 1: young secondary, then they got a chance. You know. And
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Speaker 1: this football team, I'm not counting them out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Doug Brown has been I think over the last number
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Speaker 1: of weeks, has gotten this team to play extremely hard
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Speaker 1: and to be extremely competitive. And the reality is, I
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Speaker 1: think that that's a job. I think that's been done
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Speaker 1: with some players that aren't exactly the best in the world.
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Speaker 1: So uh, if they can do it again against the
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and kudos to them, it would be a nice,
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Speaker 1: nice day at the office of the Jackson can get
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Speaker 1: something done, certainly this week at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. Tony,
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Speaker 1: thank you for the time. We will talk to you
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Speaker 1: a little bit later. Always great to be with you, guys, Tony,
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Speaker 1: but Elly is out of here. Pride of the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Left Tackle final thoughts logs All Access tonight. When you
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Speaker 1: go out on All Access, we got me. Brent Martineau
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Speaker 1: and n J P. I talked about the James Robinson
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Speaker 1: effect earlier in the show, and tonight we're actually gonna
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Speaker 1: draw it up and show you how the Cleveland Browns
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Speaker 1: reacted to a James Robinson and how it cleared the
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Speaker 1: path and opened it up for Colin Johnson's touchdown kept
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Speaker 1: so tune in for that. We also have Josh Alan
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Speaker 1: going to talk to him a little bit and see
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Speaker 1: how he's doing. And of course the ever lovable Brent Martineau,
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Speaker 1: which I know you're a big fan his and you'll
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Speaker 1: tune in just to watch him. That's right, must see
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Speaker 1: TV tonight All Access Fox Dirty at the seven o'clock
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Speaker 1: and that will come up in just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, though, the Doug Moron Show
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Speaker 1: is coming up. In just a few minutes, we'll hear
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Speaker 1: from the Jaguars head coach from his office at t
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Speaker 1: i A. Bank Fields. The Jaguars head into this week
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Speaker 1: thirteen matchup against the Minnesota Vikings trying to snap this
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Speaker 1: ten game skid. They'll try to do it on the road.
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Speaker 1: Mike Glennan getting the start at quarterback for the second
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Speaker 1: straight week, and we'll see if the defense can get
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Speaker 1: some guys back back on the on the field this
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Speaker 1: Sunday to match up against his Vikings offense. That's all
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Speaker 1: coming up the Doug Moron Show right around the corner.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Tony Boselli for Jeff Blagman. I'm j P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.