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Discord Friends, Having Support & Making it Happen w/Yung JC #140 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: Yo.
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Speaker 2: So before we turned the mics on, we was talking
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Speaker 2: about playing online and stuff, and you spoke about something
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Speaker 2: that we've been talking about lately, having the discord friends. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: basically like the people you meet gaming and stuff like.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of like a crazy thing for people like
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Speaker 2: us because we came up in the era when it
0:23
Speaker 2: was like a big, big mistake to make friends online,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they was always telling
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Speaker 2: you with some like forty year old white dude, you don't.
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Speaker 3: Know who you know what I mean, banging with you
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Speaker 3: didn't know who it was.
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Speaker 4: No facts.
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Speaker 2: I was like back in the day when it was
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Speaker 2: just like the screen name, no profile, pick nothing, you
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Speaker 2: sudden catch predator, no facts. That was that was a
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Speaker 2: wild time online. It was like it was when the
0:47
Speaker 2: Internet first came out.
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Speaker 4: Was literally the wild West.
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Speaker 3: Bro. I used to be in chat rooms and Aol
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Speaker 3: chat rooms thinking I was talking to shorties and I'm
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Speaker 3: like thirteen, fourteen years old thinking I was, and I
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Speaker 3: was like all in love with these girls. And after
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Speaker 3: I know, you know, I'm a little bit older than
1:04
Speaker 3: you know. No, no, no, you could laugh. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: a bit I'm a big old school But now that
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Speaker 3: I see how it's been exposed. I'm like, yo, who
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Speaker 3: was I talking to back then?
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Speaker 4: Non fact?
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Speaker 2: And everybody has that one friend like that they made
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Speaker 2: online that they was in touch with them for a
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Speaker 2: long time and maybe you fell out or whatever that
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Speaker 2: we randomly think about, you know what I mean, You're like, dang,
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Speaker 2: like I wonder what happened to that person?
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I had a few of those, yeah, Bro.
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Speaker 2: The version of that that I had was I used
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Speaker 2: to be in like a rap battle thing online where
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Speaker 2: you would like battle and like upload the tracks on soundclick.
1:45
Speaker 2: You remember sound click soundclick back in the day, bro,
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Speaker 2: And you used to just have people vote and then
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Speaker 2: that's how you would do like the tournaments. So it
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Speaker 2: was like rappers that I knew that would enter those
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Speaker 2: tournaments too, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, I wonder what was going in, Bro.
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Speaker 4: I was going in and I was like one of them,
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Speaker 4: like like fake New York, super tough rappers. Bro.
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Speaker 2: I was like thirteen years old. I was killing straight
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Speaker 2: out and went fourth. Nah facts, Bro, I was the
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Speaker 2: biggest murder. I was like thirteen, like barely had any hair.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Like again, you know, like we talked about
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Speaker 3: it like I grew up making music, That's why I
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Speaker 3: love music so much. And we would just producing music
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Speaker 3: and we used to rap about having guns and then
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Speaker 3: my boy would be like, you don't even have any guns,
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Speaker 3: and I was like, I know, but it's like what
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Speaker 3: everybody's rapping.
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Speaker 4: About, right, That's it.
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Speaker 2: That's what always happens though, Right like when you first start,
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Speaker 2: you always just go right to like the stuff that
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Speaker 2: you already hear, you know what I mean, And then
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Speaker 2: like you kind of start going away from it as
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Speaker 2: you like start discovering your own style and like even
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Speaker 2: like hearing yourself, how dumb you sound saying certain things?
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like like you was mentioning earlier,
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Speaker 2: like just being in the gym as far as like recording,
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Speaker 2: you know what I meant?
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Speaker 5: For sure, you got anything you do. You gotta have consistency,
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Speaker 5: just every day just putting in work.
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Speaker 3: Facts. But looking back as when you started your content
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Speaker 3: and what you were rapping about when you started versus
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Speaker 3: what you are expressing now, what was it change? Like?
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Speaker 3: What what drew to that change?
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Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't when I first started rapping.
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Speaker 5: I wasn't like rapping about some nonsense that I didn't
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Speaker 5: have no idea about. It was more on some kind
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Speaker 5: of like what I was saying earlier off camera.
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Speaker 1: It was like.
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Speaker 5: As far as knowing what song structure is and knowing
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Speaker 5: that going there and make a record, because we come
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Speaker 5: from the era, just like whether you wrapped or not,
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Speaker 5: you with your homeboys smoking gas or something, or in
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Speaker 5: a circle in the garage or outside on the block
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Speaker 5: or something. You get high enough, everybody outside going to
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Speaker 5: turn into a rapper, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
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Speaker 5: jay Z growing up. You know, I grew up having
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Speaker 5: uncles who get drunk as hell. Next thing, you know,
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Speaker 5: they too freestyle.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because it always started like that. And then
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Speaker 2: when y'all actually like get like a little stick mic,
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Speaker 2: you know, something like that that blue everybody go inside.
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Speaker 2: You start seeing who starts leaving the room because they're like,
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Speaker 2: all right, it was cool when we was outside, you know,
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Speaker 2: but now that we're inside and actually got to do it,
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Speaker 2: it ain't cool no more. And then the group gets
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Speaker 2: smaller and smaller, and it becomes.
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Speaker 3: Like two or three dudes.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that.
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Speaker 1: I was actually forced to rap really because.
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Speaker 5: Like really I always had music in my blood because
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Speaker 5: I've been playing the drums since I was like probably
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Speaker 5: like my mom and dad gave me a drum set.
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Speaker 5: I was like eighteen months almost two years old. So
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Speaker 5: when I was like five six seven years old, I
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Speaker 5: played a church. You know, you know you're granted your
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Speaker 5: mom take you to church nine am. Shit, I'm a
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Speaker 5: little five year old on the drum at the nine
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Speaker 5: am service. So and it's funny because it's crazy that
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Speaker 5: church that I grew up going to is starting to
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Speaker 5: play drums at the past of that church. His son
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Speaker 5: is like this big Instagram like viral sensation. He like
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Speaker 5: he's a preacher, and you know what I'm saying, he
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Speaker 5: goes around the world. So I don't know, Like I said,
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Speaker 5: I don't feel like nothing is coincidence.
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Speaker 1: Life be full circle.
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Speaker 2: No facts, it always comes together, especially like kind of
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Speaker 2: like you were saying, Joe, like when you make that transition,
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Speaker 2: like it's not just a random thing or like you
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Speaker 2: can necessarily pinpoint it. Sometimes it's just like as you
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Speaker 2: keep going through the music stuff, like jac was saying earlier,
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Speaker 2: like and I felt him when he was saying it,
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Speaker 2: because like when you do the music thing, especially when
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Speaker 2: you're in it for music, you go in think and
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Speaker 2: everybody's just on the up and though you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean, like you think you take people at face value, like, oh,
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Speaker 2: you say you're gonna do this?
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 4: Cool.
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Speaker 3: And one of the points that I want to make
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Speaker 3: out there, that I want to make here is one
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Speaker 3: thing and that I know about you. It's all these
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Speaker 3: glamorous options and opportunities. It's not something you're drawn to
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Speaker 3: because you already know and you look at something and
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Speaker 3: it's like, okay.
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Speaker 4: With the music.
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Speaker 2: It'd be funny seeing what people react to as far
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Speaker 2: as like what they think is you doing your thing
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Speaker 2: versus what is actually you doing your thing?
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Like, as you kind of get deeper into it and
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Speaker 2: you see, Okay, this is how people actually make money
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Speaker 2: at this, This is how people actually grow.
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Speaker 4: Once you figure that out and you kind.
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Speaker 2: Of see like dang, like what people think is the
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Speaker 2: part that is like the win or whatever. It don't
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Speaker 2: be that, it always be something else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, because.
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Speaker 5: Most people you'll find out you'll learn, Like like I
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Speaker 5: said earlier, like when you get into something like this,
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Speaker 5: like you get into it because the love of it,
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Speaker 5: and at the same time, when you know you love
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Speaker 5: something and you could possibly help change your family, friends
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Speaker 5: and everybody loves trajectory in life. It's like, I'm not
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Speaker 5: trying to be one of those forty year old forty
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Speaker 5: five year old nine to five workers every day of
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Speaker 5: where he got to go home and get drunk at
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Speaker 5: the bar because he miserable and he make all the
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Speaker 5: money in the world, but he's not happy with his life.
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Speaker 5: He's mad, got a wife at home bitching and complaining.
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Speaker 5: He don't like his job, he don't like his boss,
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Speaker 5: he don't eat, or he might be the boss and
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Speaker 5: don't like what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: He's just doing it because you have to. I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna die and be that.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna die doing what I love to do and
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Speaker 5: that I know I can make, I can make, I
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Speaker 5: can make something happen with I'm I'm not the type
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Speaker 5: of person that see that's why I clash with like
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Speaker 5: my father, like he was the man that can go
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Speaker 5: and build you a house and a home with his hands.
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Speaker 5: Like I give credit to people like my brother A. J.
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Speaker 5: All the time, like boy, you good boy, you know
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Speaker 5: how to you know how to fix this?
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Speaker 1: Do that?
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Speaker 3: Do that?
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Speaker 1: I'll be like, boy, that's the type of ship my
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Speaker 1: dad wanted me to do.
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Speaker 5: But it's like I know what I'm capable of and
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Speaker 5: what I'm not capable of. So when I know or
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Speaker 5: feel like I know, that's just not me, I won't
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Speaker 5: even try it. I'm not the type of person that
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Speaker 5: will try put any effort of time into.
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Speaker 1: Anything that I know. I don't think I can do that,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm That's what I was kind of
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Speaker 3: alluding to. It's like the realization exactly, your realization, your
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Speaker 3: realization when you see that situation, you're like, this is
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Speaker 3: exactly what I do.
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Speaker 1: Are you in there?
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Speaker 5: We all in this to get paid eventually take care
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Speaker 5: of our family. But it's like I tell AJ all
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Speaker 5: the time. If my kids, my mother, my brothers, and
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Speaker 5: said all my girl.
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Speaker 1: Everybody was cool, I would do music for free.
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Speaker 5: But the thing is when you got a village and
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Speaker 5: people you got to take care of, Like my girl
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Speaker 5: won't even let me be comfortable doing music.
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Speaker 1: She fucking around having the light bill duer. This going
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Speaker 1: on and.
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Speaker 5: She's like, I don't give a funk about no music,
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Speaker 5: and they believe in me wholeheartedly. They don't help me
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Speaker 5: pay for studio time videos. This Woo woo spent our
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Speaker 5: last But then when you got real life going on
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Speaker 5: and you got everything else around you going on, you're
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Speaker 5: gonna see you like, are you in this ship because
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Speaker 5: you want to live the lifestyle?
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Speaker 1: Or you in this because you really love the music?
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Speaker 3: Do you think that's a big part of music today
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Speaker 3: is there's a lot of artists that don't have that realization.
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Speaker 2: I think, like kind of off of what you're saying, Like,
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Speaker 2: I just think like there's artists that like they're on
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Speaker 2: that line or like they fall on either side of
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Speaker 2: the line of like are you taking this serious or not?
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because another thing we was
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Speaker 2: talking about earlier was like collaborating this stuff, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean. Like sometimes you're like, yo, like you
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Speaker 2: should want to work with more artists and stuff, and
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Speaker 2: it's like you be trying, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: But it's like when you're really putting in the work
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Speaker 2: and you know, like cause the thing that I always
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Speaker 2: find funny, bro is when people try to tell you
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Speaker 2: like they got X, Y, and Z going on, Like
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Speaker 2: if everybody don't got stuff going on, you know what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, yeah, they think they got different a
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Speaker 2: different set of problems or something.
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Speaker 1: It's like, bro, we ahole time. They sitting there next
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Speaker 1: to you better than me, but you're here with me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: That has bro it's like.
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Speaker 1: You're trying to figure it out, just like I am, exactly.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, bro, like if y'all wanted to, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be there, exactly.
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Speaker 4: You can be too cool to try to figure it out.
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Speaker 5: And if you if you wasn't on the same level, man,
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Speaker 5: you felt like you was really See, you can act
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Speaker 5: like you bigger than us, but you know deep down
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Speaker 5: in your heart you're not, because if that was the case,
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Speaker 5: you wouldn't even answer a phone call right now, you
10:18
Speaker 5: see what I'm saying. So it's like that, But that's
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Speaker 5: just life. And I had to learn to stop taking
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Speaker 5: that type stuff, especially in the business where nobody's gonna
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Speaker 5: take you serious until.
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Speaker 1: They have to take you serious facts, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: And some people are blessed enough to have the dessertment
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Speaker 5: and have the vision to see what you see, but
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Speaker 5: everybody don't. It's like I say, he didn't put that
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Speaker 5: in there, He put it in you, so he can't
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Speaker 5: expect for them to see it.
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Speaker 2: No facts, I'll be feeling like another thing that's like
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Speaker 2: super special that people be having sometimes that they waste
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Speaker 2: is the like just the magnetism where people just want
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Speaker 2: to support them. Like you know how sometimes you meet
10:55
Speaker 2: certain people that they just got that like thing about
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Speaker 2: them that no matter what they do, always succeeds because
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Speaker 2: people are always down to support them. And when you
11:03
Speaker 2: see people like that kind of like not living up
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Speaker 2: to what they really could be doing, it's like, oh man, bro,
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Speaker 2: like you got the people in your corner. All you
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Speaker 2: got to do is the work, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Like people be the other way around. They got it
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Speaker 2: work and they get the people in their corner, you know.
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Speaker 5: But don't get it twisted too though, because I've been
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Speaker 5: there and still, like I said, learning as I grow know,
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Speaker 5: because I know I'm not the only hungry, thirsty artists
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Speaker 5: that really want this shit facts. And it's like I
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Speaker 5: like to say, it's like with my granny, my oggenity,
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Speaker 5: same thing make you laugh, make you cry, keep saying
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Speaker 5: good morning, You're telling them to come, whether good or bad.
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Speaker 5: And I know a lot of time in life it's information.
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Speaker 5: A lot of people don't have the knowledge. It ain't
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Speaker 5: not because they don't want to do it. They're not serious,
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Speaker 5: they don't want to invest in theirselves, they don't know
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Speaker 5: the information. They don't have the knowledge, and then everybody
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Speaker 5: that's around them that who maybe can help them, they
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Speaker 5: don't either have the knowledge for real, for real.
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Speaker 4: So that's a good question.
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Speaker 2: Then, like, so what do you think is the thing
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Speaker 2: that's borrowing them from like taking that step to try
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Speaker 2: to figure it out because they're afraid.
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Speaker 3: That's too afraid of what.
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Speaker 5: It's not that you would be afraid too if you
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Speaker 5: had to go jump in a pond full of crocodile sharks,
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Speaker 5: snakes and rats and killers, robbers and perverts, and you
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Speaker 5: had to figure out how to maneuver through all of
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Speaker 5: that and do what you love and still balance your
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Speaker 5: at home life. If you're a real person, If you're
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Speaker 5: a real person trying to balance a real life and
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Speaker 5: a pond full of snakes and rats and sharks, it's
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Speaker 5: not easy, especially when you really came in this for
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Speaker 5: the love of it. You didn't come in here thinking, oh, like,
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Speaker 5: oh yeah, what can I go get over from over here?
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Speaker 1: He's like, damn, that's what it takes to make music.
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Speaker 5: If I'm a person who came up like me, I
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Speaker 5: didn't have nobody in my family that did music. No
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Speaker 5: did that ever went and like, I got a cousin
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Speaker 5: who pursued and still pursuing and acting played a couple
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Speaker 5: of background scenes in movies. You know, I got I
13:04
Speaker 5: got some family members that did something with their life.
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Speaker 5: But when you don't have when you don't come from that,
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Speaker 5: and you don't grow from that and have anybody, what
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Speaker 5: does everybody always talk about in life, no matter what
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Speaker 5: business you're in, they had a what a mentor?
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Speaker 1: Oh how'd you get all? My mentor came and told
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Speaker 1: me and taught me this.
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Speaker 5: And if you don't have nobody a father or uncle,
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Speaker 5: a mom or anybody connected to something, and you just
13:26
Speaker 5: jumping into something for the first time, you gonna make
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Speaker 5: a thousand and one mistakes, especially when you jump into
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Speaker 5: something that's full of people that just want to use
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Speaker 5: abuse and get over. This ain't no game that's like,
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Speaker 5: you gotta find your your your people that vibe with you,
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Speaker 5: connect with you, and that love you and want to.
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Speaker 3: But how do you how do you trust that like
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Speaker 3: they're genuine?
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Speaker 1: Though only time will tell.
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Speaker 5: But the thing is, everybody don't have the space, the time,
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Speaker 5: the mentor the financials to take these risks.
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Speaker 1: That's why.
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Speaker 3: So you take the risk.
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Speaker 5: You take the risk, but everybody ain't worth the risk.
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Speaker 5: You got to pick and choose. It's just like when
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Speaker 5: you pick your wife, or your girl, or your your friend. Everybody,
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Speaker 5: you're gonna have problems with everybody, everybody. It's about who
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Speaker 5: you willing to take risks with and who you willing
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Speaker 5: to fight through things with and get past things. If
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Speaker 5: that was the case, everybody would be married for thirty years,
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Speaker 5: everybody would be friends for thirty years, everybody would be
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Speaker 5: business partners for years. That's not the case. It's about
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Speaker 5: who is worth fighting for in your life.
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Speaker 2: And everybody ain't worth the risk, and everybody want to
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Speaker 2: take exactly But it's experienced that teaches you.
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Speaker 5: You got to take a bunch of else and last
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Speaker 5: experience that teaches you that no facts you do. I'm
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Speaker 5: not saying that, but everybody don't have the the the uncle, father,
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Speaker 5: mother that can that has time and financial freedom.
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Speaker 3: Like I did this. This is what happened. This is
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Speaker 3: what happens.
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Speaker 5: Learn books take you all to practice every day back
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Speaker 5: in all day we had to catch a ride or
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Speaker 5: the bike to practice because our mom and dad was
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Speaker 5: at work.
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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: They didn't have the chance to drop us off.
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Speaker 5: Most of our parents are trying to survive, not invest
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Speaker 5: money into your dreaming goal.
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Speaker 1: They can't even afford that to keep lights and all
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Speaker 1: that every week.
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Speaker 5: So you think all everybody who's made it to where
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Speaker 5: we're trying to hit to had one hundred thousand dollars
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Speaker 5: to invest.
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Speaker 3: Facts dudes, rappers.
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Speaker 5: All of these dude that come from these so called
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Speaker 5: hoods and ghettos, and everybody got this. Oh I was
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Speaker 5: trapping before I made it. Oh I don't even like music.
15:32
Speaker 5: I just had to do it for If you was
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Speaker 5: trapping and made all this money before music, if you
15:35
Speaker 5: don't like music, why the fuck are you doing me?
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Speaker 5: You see what I'm trying to say.
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Speaker 4: That's what I was saying earlier too. With the people.
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Speaker 2: People think a certain thing is the success, but they
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Speaker 2: don't really know, Like they don't know somebody got five
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on this run of music that they're doing.
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Speaker 2: That they're just putting.
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Speaker 1: You don't know that Nigga came up off a settlement
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Speaker 1: because he got in.
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Speaker 3: A car accident exactly.
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Speaker 1: You don't know he got the neighborhood drug dealer putting the.
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Speaker 3: Bag up from it's possiblee a lot of.
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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: You don't know people's story into they want you to
16:03
Speaker 5: know exactly, and unless it's public.
16:06
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, So we can all say anything.
16:08
Speaker 1: And I get it.
16:10
Speaker 5: Everybody has trust issues, everybody has trauma, scars, PTSD.
16:14
Speaker 3: So it's good. It's good to the personal. What drives you.
16:19
Speaker 5: Then doing what I know I can achieve, what I
16:23
Speaker 5: love to do, what I won't wake up miserable doing,
16:26
Speaker 5: and that I can help change my family's life. That's
16:29
Speaker 5: what drives me. I can't sleep without thinking about it.
16:32
Speaker 5: I can't eat without thinking about it. You see what
16:33
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say. Even when I've one had moments
16:35
Speaker 5: where I want to quit and say, fuck this fake
16:37
Speaker 5: ass shit. I don't want to do this shit my heart,
16:39
Speaker 5: my body, my mind, my soul, won't let me.
16:43
Speaker 1: It just won't let me.
16:45
Speaker 3: Can we ask you the same question?
16:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like a little bit of what he's
16:49
Speaker 2: saying too, Like I've always been the type that I
16:52
Speaker 2: just can't like put my fate in somebody else's hands,
16:56
Speaker 2: like with a regular type of job or like.
16:59
Speaker 5: And it's not even I've been a regular because my
17:01
Speaker 5: parents had regular jobs that fed me, put roof over
17:04
Speaker 5: the head lights, bills, clothes enough, we had enough.
17:07
Speaker 1: We didn't have everything, but we had enough.
17:09
Speaker 5: My people sacrifice so I can go to school with
17:11
Speaker 5: white people, so I can live in this area and
17:14
Speaker 5: move away from where my family is from. I'm not
17:16
Speaker 5: even from Florida. My dad and mom had strife in
17:21
Speaker 5: their marriage because my mom would have made more money
17:25
Speaker 5: living where we're from than moving here. My dad didn't
17:27
Speaker 5: want me to grow up where I'm from and die
17:29
Speaker 5: or go be in prison for the rest of my
17:31
Speaker 5: life there, so he rather.
17:32
Speaker 3: Said in Florida.
17:34
Speaker 1: You see what I'm trying to say. So it ain't
17:36
Speaker 1: it ain't even all about that. It's just people.
17:39
Speaker 5: People only want to be real and realistic and realism
17:43
Speaker 5: when it's beneficial and it was for somebody they love
17:46
Speaker 5: or fuk with no.
17:47
Speaker 3: But I mean, what drives you to keep wanting to
17:49
Speaker 3: be an artist?
17:50
Speaker 1: Because I love it?
17:51
Speaker 5: It ain't nothing, it ain't there no deep this all
17:53
Speaker 5: it's nothing deep like that.
17:55
Speaker 1: I really love this ship.
17:58
Speaker 3: Music first. That that that is it's.
18:02
Speaker 1: It ain't really nothing.
18:03
Speaker 3: More, that's it. That's all I'm asking is just for
18:06
Speaker 3: the love of it.
18:06
Speaker 1: I don't see myself doing nothing else.
18:08
Speaker 3: That's it. That's that's that's the response. Yeah, And that's
18:11
Speaker 3: all I want to know. Same thing for you is
18:14
Speaker 3: the drive.
18:15
Speaker 2: For me, it's always like just trying to like do
18:17
Speaker 2: what I feel like it is a perfect song, which
18:19
Speaker 2: is just that's what I'm chasing, you know what I mean,
18:22
Speaker 2: Like just keep making music, keep making music. It's perfective
18:25
Speaker 2: where it's like you got that one song that you're like, man,
18:27
Speaker 2: every element.
18:28
Speaker 5: It ain't even about even just the music aspect for me,
18:30
Speaker 5: because I tell Aja all the time when i'm when
18:33
Speaker 5: it's able to happen, I want, I'm I'm an artist artist.
18:36
Speaker 1: I'm hey, bro you've got.
18:38
Speaker 5: A video idea you need you want to Oh, let
18:40
Speaker 5: me come and help you direct it, put it together.
18:42
Speaker 1: Hey broh, you got a song? Oh hell yeah? Let's collapse.
18:44
Speaker 1: Let's do I want to be. I'm that type of person.
18:48
Speaker 5: I'm I'm, I'm It's deeper from me, the joy in
18:50
Speaker 5: the field that I get just talking about it and
18:52
Speaker 5: doing it.
18:53
Speaker 1: It's just like like, if it.
18:55
Speaker 5: Was up to me, I would trap this dude in
18:59
Speaker 5: the studio twenty four seven and he would never be
19:01
Speaker 5: able to leave.
19:02
Speaker 1: But we would both have to women like, girl, calm down,
19:07
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
19:09
Speaker 5: But when you have a village and people back to
19:11
Speaker 5: that that support you, man too, and what you got
19:14
Speaker 5: the love of it, and they see your passionate drive, Like.
19:17
Speaker 1: Like, I know, I got people in my corner that
19:19
Speaker 1: believe in me.
19:20
Speaker 3: I can relate. I'm not an artist, but I have
19:23
Speaker 3: a love for music. I just have a love for
19:26
Speaker 3: music and the way it's made and the way it
19:28
Speaker 3: sounds and the way it makes you feel. And that's
19:31
Speaker 3: why I just like being involved with it. I don't
19:34
Speaker 3: even know. I mean, you're DJ though, so it's like yeah,
19:36
Speaker 3: but you know, I don't even get nothing out of it,
19:40
Speaker 3: but I know what the feeling of playing good music
19:44
Speaker 3: does to people.
19:46
Speaker 5: But see as a listener and as a creator, it's
19:48
Speaker 5: a little different too, because that's why you earlier what
19:51
Speaker 5: you were saying about how you start off it's ten
19:54
Speaker 5: fifteen homies, then it's eight, then it's five, then it's two.
19:57
Speaker 1: Then it's just you be.
20:00
Speaker 5: Because if I didn't fall in love and I didn't
20:03
Speaker 5: love the actual.
20:04
Speaker 1: Process, yeah exactly, I would have quit.
20:07
Speaker 5: So long ago, just the process of me and AJ
20:11
Speaker 5: going in the studio record and working on the song,
20:13
Speaker 5: going to figure out a video idea of creating us
20:16
Speaker 5: being in that energy. Margaret, It's like when we as
20:19
Speaker 5: kids on the basketball court or something, your mama and
20:21
Speaker 5: daddy had to tell you to get your ass in
20:22
Speaker 5: the house, come eat.
20:24
Speaker 1: It's that ship.
20:24
Speaker 5: You gotta drag me out the studio and say, hey, JC,
20:26
Speaker 5: go get something to eat.
20:28
Speaker 2: And you know, like in the beginning too, like you
20:29
Speaker 2: would always invite like a home mee like.
20:31
Speaker 1: For sessions just don't get me stack and they.
20:33
Speaker 2: Would just come one time and they would never come back, like, oh,
20:36
Speaker 2: this is what really going on? They think it's like
20:38
Speaker 2: in the movies, you know that everybody's popping bottles. The
20:41
Speaker 2: song is recorded in one take. We all high five,
20:44
Speaker 2: and that's what Drake said.
20:45
Speaker 5: He said, I stopped he said, I'm picking through some
20:47
Speaker 5: shit like that, not verbatim, like about allowing people to
20:51
Speaker 5: come record women in the studio because most people you
20:54
Speaker 5: bring to the studio, they think it's gonna be a
20:56
Speaker 5: game winner every night. Yeah, and that's not how it goes,
21:00
Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying. So that's not really how
21:02
Speaker 5: it goes. And I talked to j about that type
21:05
Speaker 5: of shit. We talk about that all the time, and
21:07
Speaker 5: it's like every night ain't gonna be a successful night.
21:12
Speaker 5: I used to we talk about I used to pride myself,
21:14
Speaker 5: me and all Lomans used to pride myself and going
21:16
Speaker 5: to the studio. If we're in there for two, three,
21:18
Speaker 5: four hours, I need to at least do it did
21:21
Speaker 5: three folks.
21:22
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Pride myself rushing hurrying up
21:26
Speaker 1: these days.
21:26
Speaker 5: Bro Ever, since I've been taking my time going to
21:30
Speaker 5: the studio, laying down, it might just be faux balls.
21:33
Speaker 1: It might just be a melody with no words.
21:35
Speaker 2: It's funny too, because, like them first, the first few sessions,
21:38
Speaker 2: you're almost like trying to convince the engineer you're nice,
21:41
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
21:42
Speaker 4: Like when you transition from like let Holmes.
21:45
Speaker 5: It's not even trying to convince it that you're nice.
21:46
Speaker 5: You on some shiit like you ain't because I done
21:49
Speaker 5: got cringe being in the.
21:51
Speaker 1: Studio with other pew and other artists.
21:53
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying.
21:54
Speaker 2: Like when you go there, you're like, noah, nah, I
21:57
Speaker 2: want to I want them to think I'm a real artist.
21:59
Speaker 1: You know what I mean exactly.
22:01
Speaker 2: It's funny, man Like, just like you're saying, like the
22:03
Speaker 2: progression you go through, like in the beginning, you're trying
22:05
Speaker 2: to make like five songs in one session. Then like
22:08
Speaker 2: you fast forward ten years later and you might be
22:11
Speaker 2: super happy that you came up with a dope melody
22:13
Speaker 2: that session and taking my you're like, dangn bro, this
22:16
Speaker 2: melody is insane. I can't wait to finish it. Like
22:18
Speaker 2: you can't even think of about success like that when
22:19
Speaker 2: you first start.
22:21
Speaker 5: I'm honest, ever since I've been recording like that, just
22:24
Speaker 5: taking my time, not rushing when I don't feel it,
22:26
Speaker 5: and because I'm not in here just making up fairy
22:29
Speaker 5: tales all of my music. A lot of the times,
22:31
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get better at that because some people
22:34
Speaker 5: in your life they'll try to like they can't tell
22:37
Speaker 5: the difference from the two, you know.
22:38
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
22:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like I pride myself on being a
22:42
Speaker 5: realist and being a human being, a real person and artists,
22:47
Speaker 5: not just all a willy nilly shit. So it's like
22:50
Speaker 5: I can't even record every day if I wanted to,
22:53
Speaker 5: because I need to continue to live, continue to thrive,
22:57
Speaker 5: to continue to go through adversity, continue to all that.
23:00
Speaker 5: So when I feel it, I feel it, I'll lay
23:02
Speaker 5: it down. I might just got these eight bars, all right.
23:04
Speaker 5: AJ will come back to it later. And then ever
23:08
Speaker 5: since I started recording like that, in the last two years,
23:11
Speaker 5: we've been making some of the best music that we've
23:14
Speaker 5: ever made.
23:14
Speaker 2: Nah. Facts, it's definitely like all those That's the thing
23:18
Speaker 2: that people don't understand about, like doing the failures and
23:21
Speaker 2: going through the grind, Like that's how you learn how
23:23
Speaker 2: to do the good stuff, because like you're getting the
23:24
Speaker 2: wax stuff out the way, Like, bro, oh, I.
23:26
Speaker 3: Did it like this.
23:28
Speaker 1: I used to have to get fronted.
23:30
Speaker 5: Bro, I don't spend so much money trying to do
23:32
Speaker 5: this shit I'm talking about. I'm at Plush with my
23:33
Speaker 5: brother AJ and them, Uncle Mike lu All of them.
23:37
Speaker 5: I'm at missed it be everybody, uncle might be we all.
23:41
Speaker 5: I'm at the studio seven days a week. To the
23:43
Speaker 5: point where I started going broke. I'm talking about arguing
23:46
Speaker 5: with my girl this da aj I come up there,
23:50
Speaker 5: aj let me do two three hours front me an hour.
23:52
Speaker 1: I pay him the rest days later. Some shit like that.
23:55
Speaker 1: I ain't just started like yesterday. It's just yesterday.
23:58
Speaker 5: When I started, I didn't know none of the business,
24:02
Speaker 5: and they know everything. Like dude, I just got my
24:05
Speaker 5: LLC for my music going on two years now. Facts
24:08
Speaker 5: like it took me ten years just to learn, like
24:11
Speaker 5: simple ship, like what a mechanical licensese is? What is
24:14
Speaker 5: a sound exchange? And you see what I'm trying to say.
24:17
Speaker 5: You had to spend thousands of dollars hours time taking ls.
24:24
Speaker 5: Everybody not with that.
24:26
Speaker 3: That That's the point that I made earlier. It's like
24:30
Speaker 3: you meet an artist and they have no fucking idea
24:33
Speaker 3: about any of that, and you're like.
24:34
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, it's something that we always talk about
24:37
Speaker 2: here too, Like bro, you're gonna have to You're gonna
24:40
Speaker 2: have to pay that tax or get them ten thousand hours.
24:43
Speaker 4: Either way like that. If you don't.
24:44
Speaker 2: If you don't go to college, whatever whatever route you're
24:47
Speaker 2: gonna take, you're still gonna have to sacrifice.
24:50
Speaker 4: And you're still gonna come out.
24:52
Speaker 5: Of sacrificing money, time or energy, and it's gonna be
24:55
Speaker 5: all of them and the older I get front.
25:00
Speaker 1: We all thought it was about money.
25:02
Speaker 3: But you can't do anything for free.
25:03
Speaker 1: The time and the energy.
25:05
Speaker 3: But you can't. But also you can't do it, you know,
25:08
Speaker 3: and you.
25:09
Speaker 5: Can't you can't keep doing you especially can't do nothing
25:11
Speaker 5: for free forever too.
25:12
Speaker 2: That is something because like I was talking jobs, got internship,
25:16
Speaker 2: I was talking with my father in law the other
25:17
Speaker 2: day and this goes perfectly with the music things. It
25:20
Speaker 2: is music too, like just about how like when you
25:23
Speaker 2: when people say you can't make music like they used to, Like,
25:27
Speaker 2: it's true, bro, Like you're not going to get twelve
25:29
Speaker 2: guys that are just down to do the music just
25:32
Speaker 2: for fun and see what happens, because dog like the
25:35
Speaker 2: way the way the economy is not the way things
25:37
Speaker 2: are way.
25:39
Speaker 1: Never that was never happening, That's all.
25:42
Speaker 5: And I don't want to get too deep on hair
25:43
Speaker 5: because I'm still trying to make it.
25:45
Speaker 2: But I'm just even saying like from back in the
25:47
Speaker 2: day to people that they actually had to play the instruments.
25:50
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, like you had to get
25:52
Speaker 2: a band again, that's not the artist fault.
25:54
Speaker 5: What it is is it's not even that's none of
25:57
Speaker 5: our fault. That's the that's the culture, and that's the
25:59
Speaker 5: support orders the fans because follow me now, your favorite
26:03
Speaker 5: artists probably still should have been hot today, but because
26:07
Speaker 5: he doesn't get on ato w eights and this type
26:09
Speaker 5: of melody or beat.
26:11
Speaker 1: It's not hard with artists.
26:13
Speaker 5: We try to do what we love to do, but
26:15
Speaker 5: we're also conformed into what the gatekeepers, the bloggers, the fans.
26:23
Speaker 5: It's like you come in, Oh, this is different.
26:26
Speaker 1: We never heard this. They get used to it.
26:29
Speaker 5: Were tired of hearing the same shit. You do something different.
26:32
Speaker 5: Oh we want that old you.
26:34
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
26:35
Speaker 5: It's like what Drake said again, it's like, you don't
26:37
Speaker 5: miss the music I used to make. You missed the
26:39
Speaker 5: times and moments you was going through the memories, the
26:42
Speaker 5: memories from that music. You see what I'm saying. So
26:44
Speaker 5: as an artist, you can't win. You ain't gonna make
26:46
Speaker 5: everybody happy. So that's why I'm just gonna make music
26:49
Speaker 5: that I like and that I want to make, and
26:51
Speaker 5: don't put me in a box because I'm.
26:53
Speaker 3: A human people who enjoy it.
26:56
Speaker 1: I'm a human.
26:57
Speaker 5: I have all emotions, so I make sure all them
26:59
Speaker 5: emotions on a rap song.
27:01
Speaker 1: So don't put me in a box. You're human too.
27:03
Speaker 5: Some days you happy, some days you said, some days
27:05
Speaker 5: you're angry, some days you're mad, some days you excited, some.
27:08
Speaker 1: Days you weary. I feel that way too as an artist.
27:12
Speaker 1: So don't put me in.
27:12
Speaker 5: The box and say, oh, you should just make this
27:14
Speaker 5: kind of song. You should just make that.
27:17
Speaker 2: Especially when you're still on to come up to It's
27:19
Speaker 2: like if if you ain't there yet, like try different stuff,
27:24
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there'd be so many
27:26
Speaker 2: people that are just so stuck, like nah, this is
27:28
Speaker 2: like it's like, bro.
27:29
Speaker 4: It's not working.
27:30
Speaker 2: I mean, at least hasn't you know, made any movement
27:34
Speaker 2: the way you feel it should have.
27:35
Speaker 4: So you know, said, I rough.
27:37
Speaker 5: For thirteen years before I made my first dollar, So
27:39
Speaker 5: why can't you Ain't nobody bigger than.
27:41
Speaker 3: The program in fact, but there's a lot of careers
27:45
Speaker 3: like that where people like like you said, they locked
27:46
Speaker 3: themselves in the box.
27:47
Speaker 1: He ain't making it with them. They're thirty.
27:49
Speaker 3: Once they try to branch out of that, it's like,
27:52
Speaker 3: oh no, no, that's not what we fuck with you
27:55
Speaker 3: exactly with you.
27:56
Speaker 1: It's the fans, yeah, support it, it's not the artist.
27:59
Speaker 2: That's the cool thing about nowadays though, that like you
28:02
Speaker 2: can just have different pockets of fans because different different people,
28:05
Speaker 2: even different countries, like different stuff, you know what I mean.
28:08
Speaker 2: Like there's certain songs that I have that like they
28:11
Speaker 2: just get mad played like in random places that I'm like,
28:13
Speaker 2: what the heck can they say.
28:14
Speaker 5: Them Europeans appreciate us in our music more.
28:18
Speaker 1: That's what facts I.
28:18
Speaker 3: Feel like, just as they say, oh it is this
28:21
Speaker 3: guy's top ten in the Netherlands right now.
28:24
Speaker 5: See that's crazy. You can't even get support in your
28:27
Speaker 5: own cities, you know what I'm saying.
28:28
Speaker 1: So it's like facts.
28:29
Speaker 2: But even even though I'd be like, bro, it's just
28:32
Speaker 2: it's not they vibe, you know what I'm saying, Like.
28:33
Speaker 1: The world bigger than the same exactly exactly.
28:36
Speaker 3: Bro.
28:36
Speaker 2: That's why, like a lot of artists, I feel get
28:39
Speaker 2: stuck into like just thinking about the city and like
28:42
Speaker 2: they want their best friends to like their music.
28:44
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, if your best friend they don't even
28:46
Speaker 1: know music.
28:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, who cares?
28:48
Speaker 1: Bro?
28:48
Speaker 4: Like if the two.
28:49
Speaker 2: Guys around you don't like your music, and that really
28:51
Speaker 2: affects you, I don't know what to tell you.
28:55
Speaker 5: They don't like your music, you probably don't like it
28:56
Speaker 5: neither before they don't like it.
28:58
Speaker 2: But even like sometimes they don't even like that kind
29:01
Speaker 2: of music, you know what I'm saying. Like even like
29:02
Speaker 2: some people don't listen to music, you know what I mean, artists.
29:07
Speaker 5: I may not do country music, but I know what
29:09
Speaker 5: country music is supposed to sound like and what sounds
29:11
Speaker 5: good or not. Yeah, but most people are like that,
29:14
Speaker 5: and most people. You gotta think about it. We come
29:16
Speaker 5: up in a time that's so judgmental. You got to
29:18
Speaker 5: think about it back in all day when we were younger,
29:22
Speaker 5: like you could you people Now today's can social media.
29:25
Speaker 5: Everybody's open with it. Back then, you had to hide
29:27
Speaker 5: that you love Jesus. You had to hide that you
29:30
Speaker 5: went to church. I was I was fifteen sixteen in
29:33
Speaker 5: high school high and that I played the drums.
29:36
Speaker 1: I didn't want people to know I know drums, you
29:37
Speaker 1: se I'm saying, we was young, dumb. Yeah, fact, you
29:39
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we just live in the.
29:41
Speaker 5: World where it's just like, ah, everybody wants to be
29:43
Speaker 5: too cool. Everybody cool, and it be people that ain't cool,
29:47
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
29:47
Speaker 1: Like, so you just gotta do what you love to do.
29:51
Speaker 2: That's why being an artist is so dope, because like
29:53
Speaker 2: you're really like trying stuff in front of everybody, bro,
29:56
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just be super whack.
29:58
Speaker 1: That they were scared to be trial but they're judge you.
30:00
Speaker 4: On no fact.
30:01
Speaker 2: They'll talk about it all day, but they'll never even
30:04
Speaker 2: try to do one thing like that, you know what
30:05
Speaker 2: I mean. But it's like, man, like you said, bro,
30:09
Speaker 2: you don't worry about that. It's bigger than the city.
30:11
Speaker 2: There's everybody out there that you're trying to reach.
30:13
Speaker 5: Because I love my city. It's just it's just a
30:15
Speaker 5: part of the game, like everybody has to go through it.
30:17
Speaker 5: Nobody's bigger than the program, I think, And.
30:20
Speaker 3: That's why I take people what.
30:22
Speaker 1: Not to take personal, what to and not take personally, And.
30:24
Speaker 3: That's why people move to the cities where you have
30:26
Speaker 3: more opportunity like Atlanta, La, New York.
30:29
Speaker 5: Nobody ever gets love from where they're from, like that
30:33
Speaker 5: we know that.
30:34
Speaker 2: In fact, even the people that be from those places,
30:36
Speaker 2: they be saying that they didn't take off until X,
30:39
Speaker 2: Y and Z or somewhere else or something like nobody's
30:41
Speaker 2: bigger than the program. I think that dj MV was
30:45
Speaker 2: saying he broke. I think Juvenile in New York and
30:49
Speaker 2: like really started getting the records hot in New York,
30:52
Speaker 2: and that was like a big thing for Juvenile to
30:54
Speaker 2: like blow up, and you would you wouldn't think like
30:57
Speaker 2: New York, like they're playing Juvenile, But it's.
31:00
Speaker 1: Get what you're trying to say.
31:00
Speaker 5: But Juvenile is a different situation because juveniles from New Orleans,
31:05
Speaker 5: my my, my, I got family from New Orleans, my
31:07
Speaker 5: father's side.
31:08
Speaker 1: Juvenile was already like buzzing and big as hell and
31:13
Speaker 1: that region, you know what I'm saying. So before America.
31:18
Speaker 2: He was like he had the region, but once he got.
31:23
Speaker 4: What I'm saying for sure for sure, and it's like
31:25
Speaker 4: it's just it's a weird connection.
31:27
Speaker 2: But even like you were saying before, like if it's
31:29
Speaker 2: something dope, it's going to be dope.
31:30
Speaker 4: Like it don't matter where it's from.
31:32
Speaker 3: It that's it.
31:33
Speaker 1: That's the problem with social media.
31:34
Speaker 5: Everybody's too busy comparing their story and they situation to
31:37
Speaker 5: the next.
31:38
Speaker 1: Social media has everybody feeling like that.
31:40
Speaker 3: You think it's over saturated at this point, social media
31:42
Speaker 3: and artists.
31:43
Speaker 5: Everything's oversaturated because I can say, uh, cooking with Kayas
31:47
Speaker 5: are oversaturated or workout enthusiasm.
31:51
Speaker 1: I'm okay.
31:52
Speaker 5: I love to see everybody chasing their dream. That's what
31:55
Speaker 5: it is about. It's not about that.
31:57
Speaker 2: Even the podcast game, everybody says it's oversaturated. Everybody say,
32:01
Speaker 2: don't put a tax on podcast mics, you know what,
32:04
Speaker 2: that's the joke going around.
32:05
Speaker 1: The only reason why people and I.
32:07
Speaker 5: Mean oversaturated, the only reason why it's why to say
32:10
Speaker 5: it's oversaturated because now more than ever when they say
32:13
Speaker 5: it's like one hundred and fifty thousand songs uploaded the
32:16
Speaker 5: Spotify day.
32:17
Speaker 3: Facts.
32:17
Speaker 1: Back then, you couldn't do something like that, you know
32:20
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
32:21
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I was saying before with
32:22
Speaker 2: the band, like you needed a band to even get
32:25
Speaker 2: to that point, to even get to record some music,
32:28
Speaker 2: like now like we don't even need that.
32:30
Speaker 5: Well, these days, it's more like popularity because and back
32:33
Speaker 5: in the nineties, you could go see Bobby Brown and
32:35
Speaker 5: those guys or boys to manage something, go sing to
32:39
Speaker 5: an A and R manager on the corner in their
32:41
Speaker 5: neighborhood and get a record deal like that because it
32:44
Speaker 5: was more of a talent over popularity thing.
32:46
Speaker 1: So now it's more popularity over.
32:48
Speaker 5: Talent yea facts, So that's why you have it's oversaturated.
32:53
Speaker 3: That following.
32:54
Speaker 1: It gives you the bunch of boyshit ass music.
32:57
Speaker 3: It's like Big Sean. Big Sean got his break wrapping
32:59
Speaker 3: to Kanye and elevated. It didn't matter how many followers
33:02
Speaker 3: he had.
33:02
Speaker 1: That's just all uh, that's this new age stuff. But
33:06
Speaker 1: keep into the policy of that.
33:07
Speaker 5: But what what I'm saying is that's the reason why
33:09
Speaker 5: it says oversaturated is because everybody is. Back then you
33:12
Speaker 5: couldn't just access it accessible as easy as it is today.
33:15
Speaker 5: So it's like everybody can do it.
33:18
Speaker 3: That's why labels and people who could offer these people deals,
33:22
Speaker 3: they want to know you have a following, Yeah, and
33:24
Speaker 3: that gives you leverage over your skills.
33:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's just it. Ain't that ain't You don't
33:31
Speaker 5: even got to be wrapping. You could be painting houses
33:34
Speaker 5: and we could talk about all of the ship that
33:37
Speaker 5: goes into every business for days. But it's just I
33:40
Speaker 5: know one thing, consistency and keep going to believe it
33:43
Speaker 5: in yourself.
33:45
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
33:45
Speaker 2: That's that's really all it is. Bro, Like you're not
33:47
Speaker 2: going to hit a home run until you go to
33:49
Speaker 2: the plate.
33:50
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you you miss as many shots you
33:53
Speaker 1: don't take.
33:56
Speaker 3: Michael Scott, Wayne Gretzky.
34:00
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, before before we wrap up, man, I
34:04
Speaker 2: know you just dropped your project. Definitely wants you to
34:07
Speaker 2: shout out the name of the project. I want you
34:11
Speaker 2: to kind of like describe the vibe, like however you
34:14
Speaker 2: feel the best way to describe it as you know
34:16
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like if it's if it's with colors,
34:21
Speaker 2: if it's with with scenery, if it's with smells, whatever.
34:24
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Like like, we got our
34:26
Speaker 2: homie mic back there, and he always he always sees
34:29
Speaker 2: music and colors, you know what I mean.
34:31
Speaker 5: That's that's that's one of that's one of my bros
34:33
Speaker 5: who I started this shit with. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned
34:35
Speaker 5: aj I met all of these guys around the same time. Man,
34:38
Speaker 5: I'm like, I said, I didn't this is just not
34:42
Speaker 5: like overnight, you know what I'm saying. And like I said,
34:45
Speaker 5: a lot of people that I know that's been doing
34:46
Speaker 5: this got ten fifteen years on me.
34:49
Speaker 1: I know dudes who's doing big things. Now. I went
34:51
Speaker 1: to school with he was rapping when I was in
34:53
Speaker 1: eleventh grade. You feel me?
34:55
Speaker 5: So my thing is, bro, if you love it, if
34:58
Speaker 5: you put the time, man, you put the craft you
35:00
Speaker 5: believe in, and you work at it, get better.
35:02
Speaker 1: Just go do it.
35:04
Speaker 3: You got some bangers though, I'm not gonna lie.
35:07
Speaker 1: Just time in the gym project. It's Lost and Found.
35:12
Speaker 1: It's I believe it's eight songs.
35:15
Speaker 3: Is there a motivation behind it? Is there like a
35:17
Speaker 3: story behind it?
35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah?
35:18
Speaker 5: Basically, Uh, the song is called I got a song
35:24
Speaker 5: on there called when I'm Around AKA like lost and Found.
35:28
Speaker 1: So it's analogy.
35:29
Speaker 5: It's just an analogy like my heart being fucked up
35:33
Speaker 5: and lost, you know what I'm saying, and just going
35:35
Speaker 5: through all of these trial and errors and emotional feelings
35:38
Speaker 5: and family and friendship, and you know that's all it's really,
35:43
Speaker 5: you know, you know, it's just me giving so much
35:46
Speaker 5: of myself because when you give so much of yourself
35:49
Speaker 5: to people, it could eventually have you, you know, lost
35:52
Speaker 5: and stuck in like, uh damn, what am I doing wrong?
35:55
Speaker 5: Or what am I not doing right? And you you know,
35:58
Speaker 5: mental illness is the big thing.
36:00
Speaker 2: You could definitely lose yourself trying to satisfy a whole
36:02
Speaker 2: bunch of different people and not really to.
36:06
Speaker 5: Do friends, family, your kids, your mother, your brother, your sister, whoever.
36:10
Speaker 5: Because especially when you like in a position I'm in,
36:13
Speaker 5: I'm like the next I'm like the leader now that
36:15
Speaker 5: my dad is dead and gone, and you know what
36:17
Speaker 5: I'm saying, It's like I'm the person that everybody, even
36:21
Speaker 5: my mother, who she's a big dog, but she still
36:24
Speaker 5: looked to.
36:25
Speaker 1: Me, and it's like, you know what I'm saying.
36:26
Speaker 5: So I'm playing a role that it come with a
36:28
Speaker 5: lot of pressure, and you're trying to do all of
36:30
Speaker 5: this shit you put that in your music. Yeah, And
36:33
Speaker 5: I'm really just getting started. I'm still I've been getting
36:36
Speaker 5: better and learning more and more. I've got so slick
36:39
Speaker 5: at knowing how to make music talking about something but
36:43
Speaker 5: really talking about nothing.
36:44
Speaker 3: There's a motion in it. I can hear what I'm saying,
36:46
Speaker 3: I can hear the motion.
36:46
Speaker 5: So I'm really just getting started on really telling my
36:49
Speaker 5: story because I've for a while I had to learn
36:52
Speaker 5: how to do that because, like I told you the beginning,
36:53
Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still to this day learning song structure
36:57
Speaker 5: and all of that. And like I said earlier, my
36:59
Speaker 5: boy and AJ is the two people that helped me
37:03
Speaker 5: learn a lot of that shit. Like half the time
37:05
Speaker 5: I go into booth, I don't have no structure. I
37:07
Speaker 5: just got a bunch of words or a bunch of melodies.
37:09
Speaker 5: I going to do my thing, lu or AJ going
37:12
Speaker 5: in to a bitch and structure it up for us.
37:14
Speaker 5: We structure it up together. Now we got the song.
37:16
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. And I work better doing
37:18
Speaker 5: it like that, because if I go in there trying
37:19
Speaker 5: to force it like, oh this is the hook, this
37:22
Speaker 5: is that Now I'm gonna be fucked up and recording
37:27
Speaker 5: even though I thrive and a lot of us artists,
37:29
Speaker 5: we thrive through strife and agony and shit, and we
37:34
Speaker 5: wouldn't have nothing to talk about without it. Like you
37:37
Speaker 5: need that type of stuff sometimes to push you through
37:40
Speaker 5: and get better, and it helps even with the creative part.
37:44
Speaker 1: So it's just like.
37:44
Speaker 3: What's big is that you know that makes a difference
37:47
Speaker 3: it do, so you know, you're making a big difference
37:49
Speaker 3: in how that song comes across and makes people feel.
37:52
Speaker 5: Because it's I know everybody's going through that same shit
37:55
Speaker 5: because every see that's the thing too. Before we get
37:57
Speaker 5: out of here, it's like, uh, people will not fuck
38:01
Speaker 5: with your music because they don't relate to you or
38:03
Speaker 5: can't relate to it. But then you'll go in there
38:05
Speaker 5: and see a square ass motherfucker on the internet jamm
38:10
Speaker 5: into when Future said mask off, fucking mask off Moley
38:12
Speaker 5: Purser set.
38:13
Speaker 1: You've never taken none of those drugs in your life.
38:15
Speaker 5: You've never been involved in none of that but you
38:17
Speaker 5: And that's okay, nothing wrong with that. You can vibe
38:20
Speaker 5: to music that shit that you've never done or lived
38:22
Speaker 5: or been through. When you are up and coming artists independent,
38:27
Speaker 5: it's like that shit is highlighted even more and it's like,
38:29
Speaker 5: wait a minute, you can actually relate to what I'm
38:32
Speaker 5: talking about. You ain't never shot no damn by that.
38:35
Speaker 5: You see what I'm trying to say. So it just
38:38
Speaker 5: all comes with time, and it's just about I'm the
38:41
Speaker 5: only trying to make music that my kids can listen to,
38:44
Speaker 5: and they kids and my granny can listen to I'm
38:46
Speaker 5: even working on that making music without cussing and shit.
38:49
Speaker 5: So my and I just cussed right there.
38:53
Speaker 1: My granny, My granny and Anti.
38:55
Speaker 5: They real church going and they like, baby, I love
38:58
Speaker 5: your music, but can you make something out all let
39:00
Speaker 5: cussing in it?
39:01
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get better at.
39:02
Speaker 3: Hey, big, that's what Big Girl was known for. It
39:04
Speaker 3: but sometimes you came three verses without saying a cuss
39:08
Speaker 3: and big.
39:09
Speaker 1: But certain things you gotta cuss.
39:13
Speaker 4: Big l was big.
39:18
Speaker 1: It's certain ship.
39:19
Speaker 5: If I tell you, if Ludi Chris would have said,
39:22
Speaker 5: if Ludacris would have said move woman, get out the way,
39:26
Speaker 5: get out the way. Women, get out the way, you
39:29
Speaker 5: would be like, what the fuck is this? In fact,
39:31
Speaker 5: but when he said move bitch, get out the way,
39:34
Speaker 5: get out, it's a whole different emotion because that's what
39:39
Speaker 5: music is. You want to Just because you ain't never
39:43
Speaker 5: shot nobody in their head don't mean you ain't wake
39:46
Speaker 5: up and the bitch pissed you off, and you may
39:48
Speaker 5: you want to shoot their ass in the head.
39:49
Speaker 1: You got that. Instead of you shooting them in the head,
39:51
Speaker 1: you go make a rap.
39:52
Speaker 5: Song about how you want to blow their motherfucking skelly
39:54
Speaker 5: back so you don't go to jail. See where artists
39:56
Speaker 5: were painters Picasso put me in no box.
39:59
Speaker 1: You don't even live like that. But you want to
40:01
Speaker 1: talk about what he rapping about with he living or not?
40:05
Speaker 1: Shut up?
40:05
Speaker 2: Now people are super funny. Dope, Yeah, people super funny
40:09
Speaker 2: with that. They be saying stuff and they don't even
40:11
Speaker 2: know what they're saying. Is like, Bro, you're just talking
40:14
Speaker 2: just to talk. You like it, Bro, you don't gotta
40:17
Speaker 2: you don't gotta just I used to.
40:18
Speaker 5: Think I had to hide that. I like a country
40:20
Speaker 5: song or a gospel song. I love listening to fred Hammock.
40:25
Speaker 5: Whenever I'm going through a rough day or feeling something,
40:27
Speaker 5: I turned that fred hammt on. That's what I learned
40:29
Speaker 5: to play the drums to church music when we come
40:33
Speaker 5: in there. And we in this area of time where
40:35
Speaker 5: people got to hide who they are, what they like.
40:38
Speaker 5: But now it's becoming more open. I will say that,
40:41
Speaker 5: but it's like, damn, be yourself and to.
40:43
Speaker 2: Kind of wrap it up. You was asking earlier about motivation,
40:46
Speaker 2: and that's one of them. Motivations too. Like music is
40:50
Speaker 2: like a sacred thing, bro, Especially like the songs that
40:53
Speaker 2: make you feel that way, that like you go to
40:55
Speaker 2: for certain feelings or like when they come on, like
40:58
Speaker 2: you even get a smell of something, you know what
40:59
Speaker 2: I mean, And like for you as an artist to
41:02
Speaker 2: be that for somebody else is like a super dope
41:06
Speaker 2: like thing to think about, Like, dang bro, like I
41:08
Speaker 2: made a piece of art that makes somebody feel like
41:11
Speaker 2: for example, like for me, one of these songs for
41:13
Speaker 2: me is DMX Slipping Bro. Like that's that was like
41:17
Speaker 2: one of the realist songs, Like it still lives and
41:19
Speaker 2: every time it comes on. I can't say it's funny.
41:22
Speaker 5: Because I don't think me and DMX are nowhere near
41:26
Speaker 5: the same type of artists.
41:27
Speaker 1: But it's funny.
41:28
Speaker 5: I be telling everybody that's the type of artist I
41:31
Speaker 5: want to be because a DMX show. You can go
41:34
Speaker 5: to a DMX show, you could laugh, you could cry,
41:37
Speaker 5: turn up, talk shit, feel every emotion, and then motherfucker
41:42
Speaker 5: pray for you.
41:43
Speaker 4: You don't even got to be a DMX fan.
41:44
Speaker 5: Like it's ain't even about his music, it's about everything
41:48
Speaker 5: else that's arounding it.
41:49
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
41:50
Speaker 5: Fact, So it's like you go to DMX, you're gonna
41:53
Speaker 5: turn off like you want to whoop in the gas.
41:55
Speaker 5: I feel like you want to fuck a bad you
41:57
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I feel like you want to
41:58
Speaker 5: go get some money. I feel like you want get
42:00
Speaker 5: a pit bull. I feel like you want to pray
42:02
Speaker 5: to God cry. You're gonna feel That's the type of
42:04
Speaker 5: artist I dream to be like, because do it make.
42:10
Speaker 1: Sure real.
42:12
Speaker 3: Controversy, but there's still an artist.
42:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all got something fucked up about us.
42:16
Speaker 5: I bet you if we put all of y'all's life
42:18
Speaker 5: in closet ship but on broad stage too, you'll be like,
42:23
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. You might you might think
42:27
Speaker 5: him being a robber is a bad thing. Your grandy
42:29
Speaker 5: might think you smoking weed is a bad thing. Having
42:31
Speaker 5: sex without windlock is a bad thing. So we can
42:34
Speaker 5: all got something. We could be judged for it, just
42:36
Speaker 5: depending who the one doing the judging. Facts, even though
42:39
Speaker 5: God is the only one that you know.
42:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, man, that's the perfect way to go out, yo.
42:44
Speaker 2: Before we wrap though, just give him the project again.
42:49
Speaker 1: Yo.
42:49
Speaker 2: So I'm definitely gonna say, let me pull up the
42:52
Speaker 2: track list here because I don't remember it off to
42:55
Speaker 2: the top of my head.
42:56
Speaker 4: I know the one true.
42:59
Speaker 2: True color in parentheses actually, so I remember that part.
43:02
Speaker 2: I like that True Colors joint, the color blind one
43:05
Speaker 2: that don't love Me, don't love Me. It's probably my
43:07
Speaker 2: favorite one for sure, and I think it was things
43:10
Speaker 2: you do also. But yeah, me and AJ was bumping
43:14
Speaker 2: the last time we was here, and you definitely got
43:16
Speaker 2: some bangers on there.
43:17
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they're gonna have to go tap into the
43:19
Speaker 5: catalog eventually. I got some shit, y'all. Can't see him
43:22
Speaker 5: with my boy uncle Mike and the cut we meet,
43:25
Speaker 5: hear him Luther Cash and that's another thing before we
43:28
Speaker 5: got prided myself on that too. That's why another thing
43:30
Speaker 5: that I felt so like, I hurt little ass boy
43:33
Speaker 5: and shit when I was because I was naive to
43:34
Speaker 5: this music business. Like I prided myself on that for years,
43:38
Speaker 5: fucking with the same people, working with the same because
43:41
Speaker 5: that was the dream that they fed us.
43:43
Speaker 1: I made it with the niggas I started with.
43:45
Speaker 4: I mad.
43:45
Speaker 5: Then you find out you know everybody, you know, it's
43:50
Speaker 5: just but I really like they, Like I said, the
43:54
Speaker 5: album Lost and Found eight songs, you know what I'm saying.
43:59
Speaker 3: Structure.
44:00
Speaker 5: I was looking at my catalogy AJ the other day.
44:02
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I didn't even plan that, but
44:04
Speaker 5: in my shit is said, we don't drop something every
44:06
Speaker 5: two years since twenty eighteen, and I'm like, I'm trying
44:10
Speaker 5: to break that this year.
44:11
Speaker 1: So I got to drop another album this year. So
44:14
Speaker 1: hopefully that's the goal.
44:15
Speaker 5: You can get that done. That should be on the way.
44:16
Speaker 5: That's called FLAW. It's an acronym for favor love awareness.
44:20
Speaker 5: And when most of the song's already done, they're just
44:23
Speaker 5: not they still like in mixing process, but that'll be
44:25
Speaker 5: laid down the line. But yeah, that that lost and
44:27
Speaker 5: found eight songs in Man tap in Everywhere, and uh,
44:33
Speaker 5: you know, by the time y'all see this interview, it's
44:35
Speaker 5: already out.
44:36
Speaker 1: So go send that to your friend, to your friend,
44:38
Speaker 1: to your friend.
44:39
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, appreciate you pulling up my guys. I appreciate you,
44:43
Speaker 2: my guy, Yes, sir sa