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The LAMBETH Pedophile Ring_ The DARKEST Cover Up In British History · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: to get away with these cover ups for decades, hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of deep corruption, strange deaths, victims that were unheard for decades,
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  Speaker 1: As a child, we're told to trust the people who
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  Speaker 1: take care of us. We're told to do as they say,
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  Speaker 1: and we believe that they would never harm us. Our
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  Speaker 1: minds are still innocent, and for the fortunate ones, they
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  Speaker 1: will remain that way until we reach an age where
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  Speaker 1: we begin to understand more of the damning aspects of
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  Speaker 1: our world. As children, we believe that people are good
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  Speaker 1: by nature, that they want to help us, and that
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  Speaker 1: we want to help them. Through the eyes of a child,
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  Speaker 1: the world is good, vibrant, and an incredible place place
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  Speaker 1: where those we love take care of us, and we
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  Speaker 1: love them in return. Most people can never bring it
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  Speaker 1: upon themselves to harm a child. We see their trusting
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  Speaker 1: and innocent nature as sacred. We see them as the
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  Speaker 1: young ones who must be protected at all costs, who
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  Speaker 1: we would give our lives for in place of theirs.
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  Speaker 1: But for those children who are unfortunate, for those children
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  Speaker 1: who their caretakers betray, that innocence is not so hallowed.
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  Speaker 1: For these children, life is a nightmare of never ending obstacles, fear,
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  Speaker 1: and mistrust. This is the horrifying truth for the little
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  Speaker 1: ones who lived in the Lambeth Children's Homes from the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixties to the nineteen nineties. These children do were
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  Speaker 1: horrible assault as well as racism at the hands of
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  Speaker 1: those they were meant to trust. London. I was just there.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier this month we did a whole documentary on the
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  Speaker 1: Elms guest House. That's an episode that's coming on here soon.
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  Speaker 1: We also did a full length documentary on Mark to
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  Speaker 1: True and the chateaus and the elite society of childs
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  Speaker 1: that operated in Belgium and probably still does. So those
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  Speaker 1: are two big documentaries that are coming soon. But I
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  Speaker 1: was just in London, and I love London. There's so
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  Speaker 1: much history, so many great people there, and London is
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  Speaker 1: thought of as an idealistic place for many, a place
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  Speaker 1: where the streets are vibrant and lively, somewhere that you'd
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  Speaker 1: want to visit on a vacation like I just did.
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  Speaker 1: Yet within those streets lies the darkest of shadows, which
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  Speaker 1: can seal the most disturbing of secrets, secrets that remained
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  Speaker 1: sealed because people apparently allegedly were murdered the Lambeth child
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  Speaker 1: abuse ring. A harrowing reality hiding behind the beautiful streets
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  Speaker 1: of London has recently come to light, revealing the depths
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  Speaker 1: of depravity that some will go to, destroying the innocence
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  Speaker 1: and even live of the most vulnerable among us. This
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  Speaker 1: is the story of the Lambeth Children's Homes. London, a
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  Speaker 1: city that's been around for over one thousand years, formed
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  Speaker 1: the borough of Lambeth in nineteen sixty five. Lambeth covers
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  Speaker 1: around seven miles running from north to south and three
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  Speaker 1: miles from east to west, with its most populated areas
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  Speaker 1: being Kennington, Valhall, Clapham, Stockwell and Norwood. Lambeth lies close
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  Speaker 1: to central London, with the iconic River Thame lying at
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  Speaker 1: its northern border. Its population fluctuated over the years, at
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  Speaker 1: one point falling into the two hundred thousands and then
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  Speaker 1: rising back up to its current population nearly a third
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  Speaker 1: of a million, and like most boroughs, Lambeth had its
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  Speaker 1: own council with their own rules. One of those roles
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  Speaker 1: was in regard to social services and the care of children.
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  Speaker 1: The Lambeth Council created the role of Director of Social
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  Speaker 1: Services in nineteen seventy one, which replaced the previous role
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  Speaker 1: of Children's Officer. There weren't only roles dedicated to their care.
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  Speaker 1: There were government sponsored children's facilities as well. In the
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  Speaker 1: years between nineteen sixty and ninety ninety four, the London
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  Speaker 1: borough of Lambeth had opened thirty three children's homes. That's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of children's homes. These homes were places where
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  Speaker 1: parentless children and kids with disabilities, as well as children
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  Speaker 1: with behavioral issues, could go and receive care until they
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  Speaker 1: were able to be returned to their parents or were
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  Speaker 1: able to live independently. One of these homes was Shirley Oaks,
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  Speaker 1: a sprawling, massive land that could accommodate around three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty children at any time. Shirley Oaks was opened
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen oh five and was organized differently than most
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  Speaker 1: children's homes of the day. It was organized in such
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  Speaker 1: a way that children would live on the sprawling grounds
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  Speaker 1: in cottages, rather than in a large facility as most did.
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  Speaker 1: It covered eighty acres and had at least thirty eight cottages.
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  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks had its own school, medical and leisure facilities.
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  Speaker 1: It was meant to be a paradise with its green
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  Speaker 1: fields and streams, a beautiful place for a child to
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  Speaker 1: grow up, but for the children who lived in the
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  Speaker 1: Lambeth Children's Homes, it was far from a joyful place
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  Speaker 1: to live, and now we get to the victims. The
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  Speaker 1: approach of cottage style living was considered out of date
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  Speaker 1: by nineteen sixty five, when the Lambeth Council was created.
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  Speaker 1: In that year they became responsible for Shirley Oaks. But
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  Speaker 1: even when the Council took over, Shirley Oaks was not
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  Speaker 1: held in high regard. Just a year before, in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty four, the Regional Inspector wrote, the house mothers in
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  Speaker 1: these crowded cottages rarely achieve a high standard of care,
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  Speaker 1: but this is only the beginning. Not only did the
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  Speaker 1: children suffer from neglect, but they also suffered the worst
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  Speaker 1: kinds of harm a person can inflict on a child,
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  Speaker 1: physical and racial abuse. Who's nambanneu to Luckdar, an Iranian woman,
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  Speaker 1: was only around twelve years of age when she entered
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  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks. There, she suffered unspeakable crimes at the hands
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  Speaker 1: of her caregivers. She had only been at Shirley Oaks
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  Speaker 1: for a few weeks when she woke to see the
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  Speaker 1: child in the bed next to her being assaulted. The child,
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  Speaker 1: Dorothy Winter, had a pillow held over her face as
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  Speaker 1: a member of staff committed the monstrous act of who
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  Speaker 1: s Nambannew and Dorothy became friends as they lived at
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  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks, but sadly it wasn't long before who Musato
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  Speaker 1: began to suffer the fate so many other children did.
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  Speaker 1: She also faced racial discrimination, being called hateful language associated
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  Speaker 1: with her ethnic group. She was subjected to peer hatred
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  Speaker 1: by her caregivers, with staff telling her things like don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get you scrubbed up white. Many other children faced
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  Speaker 1: the horrors of Shirley Oaks, such as James Kenny, who
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  Speaker 1: was in Lambeth Children's Homes from roughly nineteen eighty six
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety eight. His childhood was so filled with
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  Speaker 1: physical abuse that he came to believe it was a
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  Speaker 1: normal part of life. He believed that he was responsible
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  Speaker 1: for what happened to him, saying that he must have
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  Speaker 1: upset his abusers and that if he had stayed out
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  Speaker 1: of their way, he wouldn't have been harmed. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize that the abuses were far from normal until he
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  Speaker 1: grew older. He lived his every day by the phrase
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  Speaker 1: watch your back, and in a BBC interview he stated
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  Speaker 1: that at night, whenever he heard his door open, he
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  Speaker 1: would feel chills run down his spine. Later in the interview,
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  Speaker 1: he breaks down in tears remembering his experience at the
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  Speaker 1: children's home. You could never relax.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be lighting in my room and you'd
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  Speaker 2: hear your door open and it'd run chills down your back.
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  Speaker 2: So oh came back to me about the abuse, seeing
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  Speaker 2: people's faces. I was waking up terrorized in Mosley. I've
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to cry.
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  Speaker 1: His life was nothing less than hell, all the hands
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  Speaker 1: of sick and twisted people who promised to protect him.
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  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks had over two four hundred resident children between
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five and nineteen eighty three, and a staggering
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  Speaker 1: number of these residents reported their abuses. You see, by
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  Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty, at least five hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine people had come forward to the Lambeth Council and
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  Speaker 1: stated that they were steadily abused while living in the facility.
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  Speaker 1: Almost five hundred and thirty children really abused there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is just an insane number. Their abusers, well, they
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  Speaker 1: were the over one hundred and twenty adults who were
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  Speaker 1: employed by Shirley Oaks or other children's facilities. Over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty adults were connected to this abuse, yet
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  Speaker 1: there were no successful prosecutions at all until the year
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and one, years after they closed. It seemed
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  Speaker 1: that the Lambeth Children's Homes were covering up the abuse.
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  Speaker 1: You see, seven hundred and five former residents had come
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  Speaker 1: forward about their ordeals at three different Lambeth Children's homes,
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  Speaker 1: but in four decades only one staff member was disciplined.
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  Speaker 1: Seven hundred and five victims come forward, and you discipline
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  Speaker 1: one staff member. That is unbelievably fipped. More children's homes
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  Speaker 1: were noted as guilty than just Shirley Oaks, such as
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  Speaker 1: the facilities of Angel Road and South Vale, but Shirley
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  Speaker 1: Oaks is by far the most notorious. Who's the Banou,
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  Speaker 1: even as an adult, is still overwhelmed by her past
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  Speaker 1: and the dark memories associated with the children's home. The
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  Speaker 1: flashbacks she suffers plague her every moment, and she sadly
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  Speaker 1: attempted to take her own life a few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: She recalls going into a and when the hospital staff
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  Speaker 1: attempted to wake her, she cried out for her attackers
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  Speaker 1: to stop and for them to not harm her. Surely
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  Speaker 1: Oaks closed in nineteen eighty three, but Whosna remembers those
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  Speaker 1: dark years as if they were yesterday. Husna Banuz survived
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  Speaker 1: her attempt to take her own life, However others didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Others such as Dorothy Winter, the little girl whom Housna
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  Speaker 1: had shared a room with at the children's home, she
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  Speaker 1: took her own life years after the abuse ended. And
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  Speaker 1: like we said before, Whosna is not the only victim.
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  Speaker 1: And at least seven hundred and five people have come
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  Speaker 1: forward to state that they were victims of abuse at
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  Speaker 1: the Lambeth Children's Homes. One girl recounts a horrifying experience
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  Speaker 1: that she was not only raped and abused at the homes,
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  Speaker 1: but that she was taken out by workers and sold
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  Speaker 1: into prostitution for years. And like we said, approximately seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred of those victims reported their abuse. But that's most
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  Speaker 1: certainly an underestimate of how big the number of abuse
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  Speaker 1: victims really is. You see, most victims of abuse don't
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  Speaker 1: come forward for many years, if they even come forward
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  Speaker 1: at all, and with a nonumber of children at these
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  Speaker 1: homes over the four decades of reported abuse, that number
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  Speaker 1: could measure truly into the thousands. But it wasn't only
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  Speaker 1: the staff members that abused the children of Lambeth. It's
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  Speaker 1: reported that members of staff let members of the public
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  Speaker 1: come into the premises and take children with them. It's
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  Speaker 1: also reported that staff members would allow public people, anybody
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  Speaker 1: out the street to come into the children's home to
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  Speaker 1: kids there on the children's home grounds. And some of
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  Speaker 1: these reported rapists who entered these homes, according to victims,
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  Speaker 1: were high status individuals, members of the upper class, people
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  Speaker 1: that were prominent, and people that were well known. The
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  Speaker 1: extent of the abuse is absolutely horrific. Children regularly reported
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  Speaker 1: hearing screams throughout the night as other children were assaulted,
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  Speaker 1: and some victims reported being photographed as the attacks took place. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: these sicks were wring these children with practical immunity, and
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  Speaker 1: they were photographing and videoing themselves as they these children.
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  Speaker 1: And like we see in these cases all the time,
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  Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if they had been selling
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  Speaker 1: these child party images and videos all across the world
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  Speaker 1: into these pasprings. And these children were abused by nearly
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  Speaker 1: everyone in some cases, from their foster parents to their
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  Speaker 1: football instructors, to their swimming coaches. And even their doctors
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  Speaker 1: as well. These places were infested with pass everybody was
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  Speaker 1: a PA that was in on this. The foster parents
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  Speaker 1: were pimping out the kids, the doctors were whipping children
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  Speaker 1: in their offices. I mean truly, truly horrific stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: who could do such a thing and how was this
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  Speaker 1: all allowed to go on for decades? The reports of
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  Speaker 1: abuse spanned from nineteen sixty all the way to the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, and over the ensuing investigation, over one hundred
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  Speaker 1: different pals were later identified. And now we get to
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  Speaker 1: the criminals of Lambeth. There are many alleged abusers in
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  Speaker 1: the case of the Lambeth Children's homes, with at least
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  Speaker 1: two of them being volunteer police officers, but most of
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  Speaker 1: these perpetrators went unnamed, especially in a later inc report.
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  Speaker 1: But there are still cases open that are being investigated
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  Speaker 1: right now. As it stands, only a few, a select
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  Speaker 1: small group of these pos have ever been charged. In
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  Speaker 1: the first place, You've got over one hundred identified, but
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  Speaker 1: only a few have been charged with a crime. This
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  Speaker 1: gross miscarriage of justice was allowed to happen through fraud, corruption, racism,
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  Speaker 1: and nepotism by the staff and counselors of Lambeth. Those
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  Speaker 1: who wanted to report the abuse were intimidated into keeping
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  Speaker 1: quiet or forced into silence through murder. Out of the
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  Speaker 1: six of those pasts that were confirmed to be charged,
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  Speaker 1: the most notable are Donald Hosgood, Leslie Paul, and Michael
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  Speaker 1: John Carroll. Donald Hosegood was one of the earliest reported abusers,
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  Speaker 1: with his case marking the beginning of major child abuse
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  Speaker 1: reports at the homes. Donald worked as a house parent
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  Speaker 1: with his wife at Shirley Oaks starting in nineteen sixty eight,
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  Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy five he was tried for eleven
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  Speaker 1: charges of an assault. According to the victims, there were
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  Speaker 1: at least four children that Donald had ripped, and yet
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  Speaker 1: though his crimes were diabolical, Donald's trial only lasted four days.
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  Speaker 1: He had been asked only to leave their family cottage
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  Speaker 1: for two weeks pending developments, and a sickening letter had
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  Speaker 1: been provided by Lambeth Council on Donald's behalf. This letter
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  Speaker 1: was sent by the Senior Children's Homes Officer, Mister n
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  Speaker 1: Elliott to Lambeth Council's Chief Solicitor or prosecutor. It described
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  Speaker 1: the belief that the allegations were pure fantasy, that the
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  Speaker 1: children's history was given to fantasy, and that the previous
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  Speaker 1: relationship between Donald and the children he cared for suggested
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  Speaker 1: personal victimization against him. The management of the Lambeth Children's Homes,
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  Speaker 1: the home that he was associated with, wrote in essentially
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  Speaker 1: to the prosecutors after he was accused of ripping four
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  Speaker 1: children and said, oh, those kids were just making that up.
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  Speaker 1: There's reason to believe these kids would want to take
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  Speaker 1: him down, and we don't believe the victims. Donald's victims
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  Speaker 1: then received no support from the Lambeth Council through the
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  Speaker 1: justice process, which they made matters worse. But the most
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  Speaker 1: horrific part of Donald's allegations came two years after the trial.
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  Speaker 1: One of his victims, named LAA two by an inquiry report,
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  Speaker 1: was found dead in a Shirley Oaks bathroom. So Donald's
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  Speaker 1: victim who came out and spoke against him just two
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  Speaker 1: years after the trial, was found dead in that same
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  Speaker 1: children's home. Now LAA two. The victim's sister stated that
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  Speaker 1: he had received proper support throughout the trial and that
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  Speaker 1: if Donald was still imprisoned, her brother might still be alive.
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  Speaker 1: The end of Donald's trial was treated as the end
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  Speaker 1: of this entire matter, and there was no disciplinary investigation
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  Speaker 1: at all. Even though Donald was reinvestigated again in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight, it was again a failure of justice where
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  Speaker 1: they swept Donald and his rips and his crimes completely
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  Speaker 1: under the rug. Now Donald died in twenty eleven, never
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  Speaker 1: the subject of further police investigation, meaning Donald got away
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  Speaker 1: with being violently rung four children, probably more children, and
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  Speaker 1: possibly allegedly murdering a child to keep them silent. Completely.
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  Speaker 1: Died facing no repercussions at all, no prison time, no
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  Speaker 1: fees to pay, nothing. I hope he's enjoying the view
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  Speaker 1: looking up at us right now. Leslie Paul, the second
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  Speaker 1: infamous criminal, was implicated in child abuse at the South
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  Speaker 1: Vale Assessment Center in West Norwood. He was accused of
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  Speaker 1: grooming children with gifts and then molesting them. Leslie had
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  Speaker 1: something that his victims called the bad Room, where he
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  Speaker 1: would lock the children away and assault them while acting
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  Speaker 1: like he was performing medical examinations. So he would lock
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  Speaker 1: these kids in a room, act like a doctor and
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  Speaker 1: these children while he was doing fake medical procedures on them.
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  Speaker 1: Leslie Paul, the same guy, was also later implicated in
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  Speaker 1: producing child as A girl who visited Leslie's home stated
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  Speaker 1: that she saw photos of topless children pasted all over
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  Speaker 1: his walls. She stated that when she tried to report
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  Speaker 1: him back in the nineteen nineties, she was threatened by
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  Speaker 1: the Lambeth Council with legal action. So you can see
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  Speaker 1: here the Lambeth Council not only doesn't want to hear
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  Speaker 1: about this, but they want the victims to stay quiet.
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  Speaker 1: They are not going to get exposed for hiring hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of them. Leslie the same went on to commit further
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  Speaker 1: atrocities relating to his abuse of children, and when he
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  Speaker 1: would later finally be charged for his crimes, he called
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  Speaker 1: all of his victims liars now. Leslie was jailed for
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  Speaker 1: offenses against children in nineteen ninety four, but he was
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  Speaker 1: released in two thousand and two, eight years later as
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the sentencing judge believed he had achieved rehabilitation. But in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Leslie was found guilty of fifteen indecent assaults,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: one count of indecency with the child, one count of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: aiding and a betting, indecent assault on a boy under fourteen,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: and one count of making an indecent image of a child.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: He was jailed for thirteen years in response to his crimes,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: so Leslie at least got some jail time, not enough.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: If it was me, I would give these people life
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: in prison, even more hardship punishment if you know, we
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: could get to that. But at least life, not this
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: measly twenty years that these people get. Think of all
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the lives they ruin, the multiple children they lock up
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: in rooms, they physically abuse, they harm, they reap, and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: they get it just like a measly prison sentence. But
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the third back on this list, who is by far
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the most notorious, is a man named Michael John Carroll.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Michael was in charge of the Angel Road Children's Home
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety and Michael himself
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: had been charged with the still abuse of a child
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six, fifteen years before he started his
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: position as the manager of a children's home. But because
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: of certain statutes in British law, the Lambeth Council was
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: not aware of his conviction when he applied to be
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a house manager, and of course Michael had refused to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: disclose it to them. However, they eventually learned of his
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: conviction through a fostering application check made by a neighboring borough.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: A disciplinary hearing was conducted while he was the house manager,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and at the end of it it was decided that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Michael neglecting to disclose his prior conviction was not grounds
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: for misconduct. Michael, even after being proven as a svender
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: who had been accused of ranking children, was then allowed
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to go back to running the Angel Road Children's Home. Now,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Michael would go on to be accused of soliciting children
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to adults, running parties where children were offered to members
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: of the public. And once again, some of these people
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that allegedly came to these parties were high ranking public officials,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: people that would be recognized out on the street. It's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: always a common theme that we see in these stories.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: People get access to kids, they abuse the access that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they have, and then they start, for some reason, offering
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: children up on a silver platter to put these high
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: ranking parties. It's crazy to me. It's like throwing out
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: chum into sharky water. You can't see the sharks, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the moment you put the chum out, those sharks are
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: gonna emerge from the darkness. And you just gotta imagine
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: there's like a million fund sharks in the water. That's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: how many pasts are out there waiting for these opportunities.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But back to Michael. Michael was also frequently accused of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: assaulting children himself and would eventually receive a ten year
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: sentence for doing just that. But of that ten year sentence,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he only served five. And now we get to Operation Middleton,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Chile and Operation Traller. So how did this abuse go
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: on for so long? How did hundreds, almost probably thousands
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of children? How were these thousands of kids allowed to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: be raped by staff members for decades? Reports were being made,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: There were hundreds of reports made, yet no one looked
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: into it deeply at all. In the late nineteen nineties,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: operations were conducted to look into the allegations of child
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: abuse which had been made frequently in the past, but
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: resulted was nothing more than an effort to hide the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: extent of that child abuse. You see. In nineteen ninety three,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Michael John Carroll's abuse of children was revealed. An investigation
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: by Merseyside Police and Operation Care finally showed the world
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: what a monster this man was. It began in nineteen
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: ninety three, focusing on the abuse that Mike inflicted on
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: children at Saint Edmund's Children's Home in Liverpool, where he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: had worked before coming to Angel Road. By the year
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, they were investigating allegations related to his
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: employment by Lambeth Council. Now Michael would eventually plead guilty
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to thirty five charges of indecent assault and buggery of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: young boys in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Buggery in
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: US terms is intercourse obviously non consensual, and one of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the key players in this investigation into Michael was a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: man named Clive Driscoll, a detective inspector on the Lambeth
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Child Protection Team. He advised that the Mercyside Police, who
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: had begun the investigation into Saint Edmunds, needed the aid
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: of the Metropolitan Police, and that assistance became known as
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Operation Trawler. In this operation, victims of abusers were invited
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to come forward and what resulted was additional allegations against
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: other staff at facilities such as Angel Road and South Vale. Driscoll,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that investigator, after learning that Michael liked to make high
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: profile friends, began to speak with individuals connected to the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Lambeth Council children's homes, such as Miss Anna Tapsil and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Miss Teresa Johnson, a former councilor and former Angel Road
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: manager respectively. Miss Johnson believed that Michael was hosting parties
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in an apartment on the premises of Angel Road, inviting
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: people who were not connected at all to the children's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: home into this apartment so that they could pay to children.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Driscoll the investigator also learned that Michael Carroll had petitioned
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to become a foster parent in the past, and that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: this process was marked by confusion and disagreement. You see,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the Lambeth Council itself was extremely supportive of Carroll's petition,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: but Carroll needed the support of the neighboring borough of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Southwark also, But Southwark refused to grant him this support,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: finding him unsuitable obviously as he had that prior conviction
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of child abuse in the nineteen sixties. But that seemed
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to be fine with the Lambeth Council as he had
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: retained his positions in their child care facility, and a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: fight between the two councils ensued. That's right, The Lambeth
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Council actually went out of their way to fight, saying
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that Michael, this man who has been accused by children
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of them, a man who has in the past been
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: convicted of a child, that he should be able to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: become a foster parent. What the fuck is that? The
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: official who blocked a petition in Southwark would eventually receive
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a call from a man named Paul Bodeng who asked
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if there was anything he could do to resolve this
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: disagreement between the two councils, but the official refused his help.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Now Investigator Driscoll confirmed allegations that miss Johnson had made
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: about Michael's parties with a list of ten children he
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: found who had all made complaints during that time that
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Michael was in charge of Angel wrote. These kids all
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: testified that Michael was conducting these parties on campus. It
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: also came to light that Michael Carroll would attend children's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: camps and dick dignified visitors. Members of the elites, the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: governing class would often show up to these camps unannounced.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Now Clive Driscoll, the investigator, eventually wanted to talk to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this Paul Bohdang, the man who had made the call
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to the Southwark official Paul had also been connected to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Michael's parties as well as Michael's camp visits. Paul had
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: also recently been appointed to the position of Minister of Police,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: essentially the police chief. Yet, suddenly, when this line of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: inquiry was opened and Investigator Driscoll began to tell others
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of his suspicions, Driscoll found himself removed from the case.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: This is the one period in my career which just
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: troubles me lightly.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Driscoll was accused of stirring up a hornet's nest, but
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he was also accused of serious indiscretions. He was informed
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that political sensitivities resulted in his removal from the Lambeth
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Child Protection Team. In short terms Layman's terms, he was
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: looking at exposing the crimes of a minister and he
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: suffered for it. Nigel Goldie, another Lambeth official, knew that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Driscoll was about to approach Paul. Goldie believed that Driscoll
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: told too many people about his intent to speak to Paul,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and Goldie informed the Lambeth Council of his concerns. Within
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: days of this meeting, Goldie was approached by Officer Richard
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Gargini Gargini reportedly told Goldie to quote forget about Driscoll
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and his leads end quote. He was also told nothing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: more would be done and that the matter was closed.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He was especially told to keep the matter to himself.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Driscoll's career suffered because of this action, and after he
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was removed, he was told his case had no substance.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He had found credible witnesses, adults, He had found a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: list of ten children who could testify that these parties
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: were happening. The locations were there, they had found the apartment,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: they had found everything, and yet he was taken off
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the case and told there was no substance. But Driscoll
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: himself was mostly concerned at how that Officer Garginie knew
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: about his intentions with Paul, as he had never told him.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: That Officer Gargini had to have been told by someone else,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: someone connected to Lambeth Council, after Nigel Goldie expressed his concerns.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So they get close to exposing parties happening on campus
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: with rich, powerful individuals, and all of a sudden, the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Lambeth Council starts hiring their cronies and informing people they
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: need to go shut this shit down before it goes public,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: or it goes any further. Now, what's interesting is that Driscoll,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the investigator, had handed over all of his investigative material
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: on Operation Trawler to that officer, Richard Gargini, and a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: new inquiry took place shortly after Traller was disbanded. Richard Gargini,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that officer, was asked to head up the new inquiry,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: called Operation Middleton. This operation was larger in scope and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: enlisted the help of a team of specially trained social
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: workers known as the Child Abuse in Lambeth Team. The
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: operation became known as the Children's Homes in Lambeth Inquiry
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: or CHILES. In this new inquiry, Michael the man who
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was holding those parties, he was no longer the only suspect.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: They instead looked at all of the allegations that had
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: been made against Lambeth Children's Homes spanning twenty years of history.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, all of a sudden, that investigator Driscoll,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: who connected all these people to the home, who had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: figured out that a Minister of Police was involved in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: these past parties, who had gotten the names of ten
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: kids who had been at these parties, who had been
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: writ at these parties. All of Driscoll's notes and his
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: work went missing, and none of his leads were ever
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: followed up on. Miss Johnson, one of Driscoll's best witnesses,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: never spoke to detectives again except during a general sweep
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of former social workers in Lambeth. Because her testimonies were
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: suddenly unwanted. She began to feel that the police weren't
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: helping the children of London, they were ignoring their cries
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: for justice. This only became more obvious when documents were
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: presented to the police that suggested that Paul had had
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: visited Angel Road while under Michael's care during the eighties,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: yet nothing was done to follow up. So there was
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: legit documentation that the Minister of Police had actually visited
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the exact orphanage at the exact time that he had
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: allegedly visited it, at the exact time that Michael was
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: having these parties, and they never even looked into it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Even with all these witnesses and evidence. Now, in the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: early days of Operation Middleton, officers announced that they had
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: forty offenders that they intended to investigate further. However, conveniently,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: sixteen had died nineteen of those people couldn't be identified,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and only three convictions were secured. In its final report,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Operation Middleton stated quote it would be unreasonable to judge
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the success of the operation solely on the basis of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the number of successful prosecutions end quote. Now Paul the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Minister of Police, in a statement, said that he only
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: became aware of Michael when he was arrested in the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: late nineteen nineties, and he went on to say that
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he would have been happy to help in the investigation
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: if he had ever been approached, and that he had
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: no recollection of ever visiting the children's home. But Operation
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Middleton had other failures, like ignoring Donald Hosegood's crimes the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: first pedophile we talked about. Witnesses to Donald's abuses of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: children were ignored or never followed up on, and there
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: was even some suggestion that the Lambeth Council had told
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the police that Donald Hosegood was already dead and could
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: not be interviewed. This, however, was obviously false. Operation Middleton
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: ended with only six criminal proceedings, the proceedings of Leslie Paul,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: William Hook, Jeffrey Clark and two more offenders. But Operation
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Midland's failures would not be allowed to stand, especially not
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: by a man named Raymond Stevenson. Raymond, another victim of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks, was a music producer who in twenty fourteen
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: had a chance meeting with a friend whom he had
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: met while living at that care facility. When his friend
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: confessed that he too had been ripped while living at
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the children's home, they decided to create the Shirley Oaks
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Survivors Association or SOSA, and it only took a few
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: months for the association to have hundreds of child abuse
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: survivors in their ranks. They all vowed to put an
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: end to the cover up and to reveal what had
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: been done to them. You see, Operation Middleton and Operation
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Trawler had been a gross miscarriage of justice, and according
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to them, it was time for the truth to come out.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Raymond in the past had promoted rising stars like Jesse
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: j in his South London production office, but his studio
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: became more kin to a police incident room as SOSA
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: began their work. They had lost faith in the authorities
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: after years of abuse went unadjudicated, and began interviewing victims
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and hearing their stories.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: We've spoken to over four hundred children who were Shirley Oaks,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: and where as most investigations followed the victims, we wanted
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: to follow the pedophiles, and we decided that would be
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: the best way.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: These volunteers members of this organization acted as social workers, counselors,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and investigators. Now Raymond and his close colleagues quickly realized
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that there had been a PAS behavior. It wasn't simply
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: one or two people who just happened to be buss
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: who worked there. They saw that management was conspiring together
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and even allowing people from off the premises to come
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in to abuse the kids of Lambeth Children's Homes. SOSA
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: identified through their work one hundred and twenty different peoples
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that had br children inside of the Lambeth Children's Homes
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: or on their campuses. And it wasn't long after this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: group formed that the members crowded into the Lambeth Council
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: chambers and relayed what had happened to them to their faces.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: After hearing the mini stories of abuse, the Lambeth Council
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: seemed to be apologetic. The council expressed their deepest sorrows
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: over what had happened and it was a good first
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: start at reclaiming justice. One of sosa's first demands of
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the Council was to look into the case of Peter Davis.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Peter Davis was LAA two, the boy who had spoken
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: up about what David Hosegood had done to him and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the other children in his care, and two years after
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the trial at the Old Bailey, David was founded in
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: a bathroom with a court around his news. And even
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: though there were signs of seal activity happening before or
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: during he's dying, Peter's demise was ruled by authorities as
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: quote death by misadventure. Obviously, SOSA the group disagreed. They
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: believed that this was murder, reprisal for speaking up about
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Peter's abuse, or perhaps an effort to silence him from
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: ever speaking up again. Peter had been fifteen at the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: time of his death in nineteen seventy seven. There was
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: never an explanation, and his was considerably sudden. As the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: BBC looked into the death, they found court documents from
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the time that had been sealed for one hundred years.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, Senior Detective Clive Driscoll believed
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it would be prudent to reopen the case, as did
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Chuka Umna Labor MP for Stretom, but their advice was disregarded.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The police acknowledged that the investigation performed so long ago
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: did not meet the standards of a proper investigation as
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: they happened today. Yet as the police received the request
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: for a new investigation, they ruled that the matter would
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: remain close in the absence of further new witnesses. Now,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: though this was crushing news, it wasn't the end. In
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, on November twenty seventh, Southwest Londoner reported that
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: an independent child sex abuse inquiry would take place across
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: England and Wales. Their objective was to investigate the historic
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: failings of the Lambeth Council. They included the Lambeth children's homes,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches and politicians in their inquiry.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: They vowed to shine a light on these criminals who
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: would abuse the most vulnerable of people. And now we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: get to the inquiry. This is crazy. So there had
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: been several previous reports of the abuse of Lambeth children
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: in the past, but none seemed to amount to much.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: The reports that the new inquiry would reference span from
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five to two thousand and three, a staggering
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: twenty eight reports, and though reports began as early as
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, important Metropolitan Police Service investigations would not
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: begin until nineteen ninety two. One of these was Operation
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Bell from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety four. This
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: looked into allegation of abuse at the South Vale Assessment Center.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: If focused on Leslie Paul remember that guy, but implicated
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: others as well. Operation Prigada ran from nineteen ninety three
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to ninety four following allegations made from a victim. These
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: came to light from a publication called the Harris Report,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: which identified reports made of Lambeth Housing directorates creatingfic material
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: involving children as well as pic material involving beast reality.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So there were staff members creating child point and animal
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: report sound like some great people. Operation Middleton we talked about.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: This ran from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: three and covered the allegations of abuse spanning from seventy
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: four to ninety four. Of the many cases involved, sixteen
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: were sent to Crown Prosecution Service and charges. Like we said,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: were brought against six of the offenders. Operation Trinity ran
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen and resulted in charging Leslie,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Paul Patrick, Grant, June Enticott, Brenda Ball and Philip Temple.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yet with so few new names, the public was unsatisfied.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: More needed to be done, and the new inquiry promised
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: just that. This investigation was announced by British Home Secretary
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Teresa May on July seventh, twenty fourteen. She admitted the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: serious failings of the system in the cases of these
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: children who were abused, and that the inquiry would fully
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: establish the extent of the crimes committed. While the inquiry
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: began its work, BBC reported on what was being found.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: SOSA compiled the testimony of allegations they received from victims
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: of Lambeth Children's Home abusers. The early compiled testimony, named
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: thirty two. Independent Inquiry into Child Still Abuse or IICSA,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: published its final report in twenty twenty two, many years
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: after its convening, but in the meantime they brought many
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: facts to light through their nineteen different reports. The formation
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of this specific inquiry began after investigations in twenty twelve
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and twenty thirteen into the Jimmy Savil abuse scandal. This
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: investigation alone revealed widespread abuse, including prominent political and media figures,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in adequate abuse prevention measures by childcare organizations. The investigation
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: went through two chairs quickly, or leaders, Baroness Butler Sloss,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: who served for only about a week, and then Fiona Wolf,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: who served only a month and a half. They were
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: both removed due to fears that they were too close
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to those being investigated, which you don't want in a
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: case like this. You want someone with no association with
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: these people so that you can properly dig into them
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and that they can't be bought or intimidated. Dame Lowell
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Goddard was then named chair, a New Zealand High Court
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: judge with no ties to the United Kingdom. She was
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a promising appointment as she couldn't be accused of favoring
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the criminals in the case because she literally didn't know them. However,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: she too was removed with little to no explanation in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and replaced by Professor Alexis j What started
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: out as promising quickly went downhill. The affair had a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: bleak outlook for SOSA and they would go on to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: explain these reasons in a letter. The appointment of Alexis
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: j caused SOSA to pull away from the IICSA investigation,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: as they did believe that she was the right person
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to chair the inquiry, but they had far more complaints
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you see. The SOSA pressed statement published in twenty sixteen
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: started with this quote. Our decision to pull out of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the independent inquiry into child's abuse should have come with regret,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but we are sad to say the only emotion we
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: feel is relief. Now our members do not have to
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: relive their worst nightmares in this stage managed event, which
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: has now been contrived in such a way that it
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: enables the guilty to wash their dirty hands, whilst the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: establishment pats itself on the back end quote you see
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Alexis J that new leader had refused to meet with
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Sosa since her appointment as chair and would not listen
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to the victims themselves. Along with this complaint, SOSA went
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: on to state that the inquiry was little more than
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a cover up itself. They explained that nothing the inquiry
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: would accomplish would truly illuminate the government's past of cover ups,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: but effectively virtue signal without truly doing any justice. Sosa
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: went on to implicate the Home Office or the British
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Government in the cover up, saying that over six months
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: they had asked questions about the Home Office liability in
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the case, and their answers were only ever vague or evasive.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Sosa believed that the Home Office was also guilty of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the initial cover up, and the fact that they refused
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to open a door into their own filthy past was
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: concerning at best. This is essentially like the Home Office
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: linking these cover ups to our government, to senators and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the President and all that. So this was a really
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: big step. Yet the inquiry moved on without the support
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of the victims and Sosa making their promises to illuminate
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the crimes committed by Lambeth Council null. The inquiry delved
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: into matters such as the removal of Clive Driscoll, that
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: investigator from Operation Traller, but they reported on matters such
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: as corruption, the nature of life at Lambeth's facilities, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: accused pass and mishandling of funds. But they also looked
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: into far more disturbing matters the deaths that happened in
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Lambeth Children's home care. Tyra Henry was twenty two months
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: old when she was killed by her father. He had
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: previously severely injured her brother as a toddler, but Tyra
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: had not yet been born at that time. She had
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: been in Lambeth Council's care, yet she was allowed to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: go live with her father, even though he was deemed
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: highly unfit to care for the child. Lambeth's obligation to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: protect this child was completely forgotten, and both individual staff
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and systems failed to protect her. As a result of
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: her return to her father, her young life was lost.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Mia Gabelli was killed by her mother at seven weeks
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: old in nineteen ninety two, despite also officially being in
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Lambeth Council's care. Lambeth's staff had known about the mother
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and that she had a previous record for harming her children.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: The mother had thrown me as sibling through a third
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: story window, and yet Mia was allowed to stay in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: her mother's care, completely defenseless. So the Lambeth Council wasn't
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: held accountable for allowing these terrible parents to murder their
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: own babies. But even more deaths were found to have
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: occurred as a result of Lambeth's failures. In nineteen seventy five,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: an infant died in Lambeth Children's home under horrifying circumstances.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: She was found after she had already died, strapped to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a top bunk bed in one of the homes. There
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was somehow no police investigation into this, and the brother
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of the infant stated that he and his family have
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: never gotten an explanation as to what happened to his
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: infant sister. Another child, after having been placed in Burtley
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Farmhouse in Surrey in the early nineteen nineties, alleged that
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: he had been abused by staff. Some years later, he
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: took his own life while still a child under Lambeth's care.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And of course there was Peter Davis, that young fifteen
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: year old who had been a witness at the trial
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and was found in a bathroom on Shirley Oak's premises.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: After so many deaths were reported, it was clear that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: something was really wrong in Lambeth Council. After the deaths,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the ICSA report delved into the rampant corruption, racism and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: intimidation that had embedded itself within this organization. You see,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight, a woman named Helen Kenward, tried
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to look into the records of children being kept in
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the homes. She was an independent consultant with thirty seven
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: years of experience, and when she tried to locate files,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the staff lied to her, they hid files, or they
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: told her that the files were gone they had misplaced them.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Helen was a part of an investigation that was taking
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: place during that time, and she was constantly faced with
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: staff who denied knowing the people being investigated, even though
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: she knew that they knew them. The entirety of Lambeth Council,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: it seemed, was corrupt. A previous report that the IICSA
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: looked into described Lambeth's staff being severely involved with fraud,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: with up to five hundred employed staff members benefiting from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: illegal activities. Lambeth Council's actions from the eighties to the nineties,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: specifically their policies, created the perfect conditions for systemic abuse
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: by dishonest employees and ps. One former councilor, Miss Anna Tapsel,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: described everyday corruptions such as children's home employees taking food
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: from the children's home out of the mouths of the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: little ones that resided in these facilities. Yes employees were
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: stealing food from the impoverished children. The Lambeth Council also
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: obtained leverage in the community, giving free labor to elected
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: members through their direct labor organization. Once a council member
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: accepted an offer of a free repair or the like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: they were caught in a blackmail scheme that would threaten
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: their public image should they try to blow any whistles.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: This corruption went hand in hand with the abuse of
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the children at Lambeth. An initial investigation into the abuse
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: of children at Ivy House, another Lambeth children's home, was
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: derailed by fraud. Children's Home officer mister Thomas was instructed
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to investigate allegations of abuse in the late nineteen eighties.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: The officer in charge of that Ivy House had been
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: implicated in food fraud with mister Thomas, the home officer,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and as a result, the investigation was carried out poorly
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: to ensure that both kept their public image claim. So
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you had government officials working with fraudulent members of the
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Lambeth Children's homes specifically to keep their reputations clean. If
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: one was found to commit food fraud and child abuse,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the other would be revealed as having committed food fraud
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: as well, so they kept it hidden. It was a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: clear sign that blackmail was used by the council to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: keep their realistic acts a secret. They would implicate others
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in crimes by persuading them to take food or free repairs,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and then threaten them if they ever got too close
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to the child abuse allegations. So it seemed like all
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: these fraud charges and everything like that, these schemes were
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: meant to protect the paths. I want to make that
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: very clear, mister Thomas. That home officer also presented in
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a large case related to child abuse. Michael John Carroll,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Michael the Party Guy, was eventually dismissed in nineteen ninety
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: one for fraud. He had been misusing children's home funds
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: for his own personal gain. In a nineteen ninety two
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: meeting document, it was discovered that the police had previously
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: refused to investigate Michael for fraud. It was noted as
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: consistent with Lambeth local practice involving theft against an employer.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Perhaps if the police had investigated Michael sooner, he wouldn't
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: have been allowed to continue his crimes. It is highly
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: disconcerting that Michael wasn't fired for the child abuse allegations
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: that were already swarming against them, but instead he was
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: fired for fraud. He wasn't fired for the ten children
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: that claimed that he was bringing men onto campus to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: them and that he was from them. He was fired
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: for a financial charge. After the IICSA reported on the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: corruption related to fraud, it also discussed people who wanted
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to stop the corruption but couldn't due to intimidation. Lord
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Herman Oosley believed that his office at Lambeth Council was
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: bugged at the instigation of one of his staff members.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: He knew of corruption and Lambeth Council and he wanted
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to do something about it. Yet his home and office
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: were broken into soon afterwards, and computer records were stolen
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: from him. As he attempted to deal with the corruption.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Lord Oosli would tell the ICSA that he was getting
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: calls in the middle of the night that his tires
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: had been slashed and that his windshield had been smashed
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: as a result of his attempt to handle Lambeth's corruption issues.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: So this guy made it his mission to expose the corruption.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Then his office is broken into, his computer records were stolen.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: He's getting threatening calls in the middle of the night.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: His tires are slashed, his windshield is smashed, so it
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: seems like they're trying to cover something up. One person,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: an extreme right wing organization member, told Lord Oulislie that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: his phone number had been plasted on the walls of
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: every public convenience store throughout Lambeth. This was how so
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: many different people had been able to get his phone number,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: as he was getting hundreds of calls a day at
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that point. Mister Henry Gilby, Amenity Services Director, was also
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the subject of a serious arson attack when he tried
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to tackle the corruption of the Lambeth Council. His records
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: were stolen, his office and his home were broken into,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and his car was vandalized. There certainly was corruption and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: intimidation here, but there were still even darker things happening
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: behind the doors of Lambeth Council offices. The Harris Report
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: identified the racism, sexism, nepotism and corruption of Lambeth in
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, following allegations of abuse committed by Lambeth
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Council members themselves hmm go figure. It described an informal
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: network of men who used a department of favoritism to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: sustain organizational racism and corruption. The Harris Report also identified
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a person named less Or LP who was believed to
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: have links to Housing Directorate officers associated with Purphy Exchange.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: This may have referred to Leslie Palm, the care worker
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: for the Lambeth Council who was also that convicted fender.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: And remember previously there were these allegations that Housing Directorate
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: officers were producing childhood at these home care facilities to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: pile onto the corruption schemes and crimes against children. It
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: was also thought that trade unions had too much of
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: a hold on the Lambeth Council staff. That same Lord
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Lord Ouseley especially believed that counselors and trade union leaders
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: colluded together. This collusion may have resulted in an inadequate
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: investigation into that baby, Tyra Henry's death. The trade union
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: NALGO National and Local Government Officers Association interfered constantly postponing
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: hearings into the crime and preventing inquiries from being made.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: The IICSA reported all these facts, taking them all into consideration,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: while also not truly doing anything to resolve them. It
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: was mostly lip service an attempt to silence the massive
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: group of survivors and outraged members of the public. But
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: how in all of these cases, with so many witnesses
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: could there be so few people arrested. And if there
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: had been so many criminals that SOSA had identified, where
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: were the rest? Well it could be that the British
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Home Office, the British government itself already knew. A twenty
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: fourteen news story by The Guardian reports that more than
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: one hundred potentially relevant files to the nineteen eighties Westminster
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Ring were destroyed, lost or are now missing. Eh And
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: we are going to talk about the Westminster Ring soon.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: That is the most fucked up thing in British history.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's the most thing in
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: British history, but that's what we just did the documentary
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: on and it's real. It's one hundred percent reeal. They
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have tried so hard to this day to make that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: thing look like a hoax. No, we were about to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: blow the lid off of this VIP call ring. But
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: back to our story. One hundred files and documents that
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: are lost, by the way, one hundred more than one hundred.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Actually all of those files that were lost related to
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: allegations of a child's ful abuse network or a pass
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: call ring, but they all completely disappeared. The story of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks and the rest of the Lambeth Children's homes
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: were not the only ones happening at the time, As
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: stated by the inquiry, there were implications for the church
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: as well as other organizations in Britain and Wales. The
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: discovery of the files already comes after an investigation into
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a lost dossier given to the British Home Secretary, Leon
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Britton by campaigning Tory MP Jeffrey Dickens. Now Dickens passed
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: away in nineteen ninety five, but he had stated that
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the information that he had given the Home Secretary would
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: blow the lid off of the lives of powerful and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: well known child Allegedly, the documents contained the names and
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: evidence against eight prominent, very prominent royal lords, MPs, government officials.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Eight of those people were in that document. So, by
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the way, if you're wondering what the Home Secretary is,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the Home Secretary in Britain is basically like the Attorney General,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the head of the Department of Homeland Security, the head
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of the CIA, the head of the FBI, and the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Secretary of State. All of those roles in the United
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: States rolled into one. So they are an extremely powerful
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: government official. And this guy handed over that file to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Leon Britton, the Home Secretary, with documented, serious clear information
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: on eight extremely prominent, high profile figures who are members
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: of a disturbing island childing. Now Leon Britton, the Home Secretary,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: after receiving that file, said that it would be given
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: directly to Scotland Yard, which is basically like Britain's FBI.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But Scotland Yard said they never had any record of
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: an investigation into child abuse at the time, and that
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: file never got to them. That's right. Leon Britton himself
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: lost the file or did he lose it? I wonder
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: what he did? Huh. I have no idea where that
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: file went, not like it was just or anything. Then,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: after already claiming that important documents relating to this per
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: ring were lost, Moore turned up missing one hundred and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: fourteen documents. To be exact, Mark saidwell, the Home Office's
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Permanent Secretary made a statement to that effect. The discovery
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: was made by an independent review of information received about
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: organized child's abuse. However, this information was never published in
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: their report. It seemed that interfering in police investigations wasn't
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: enough for the cover up, They needed to destroy all
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: proof as well. Not only could that dossier have had
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: enough information to convict the one hundred and twenty Paunds
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: that SOSA identified, but the one hundred and fourteen missing
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: documents could have put a permanent padlock on their cells alone.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: But perhaps the Lambeth Council wasn't acting alone. One disturbing
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: part of the iicsa's final report, amongst its mini pages,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: is section eight point five titled Freemasons. Apparently there was
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: enough evidence in this case that certain paths were associated
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: with the Freemasons to cover an entire section. However, it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: was eventually ruled, of course, as an unsubstantiated claim there's
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: no evidence. The section begins with the explanation that the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: inquiry explored evidence of Freemasons influencing the investigation into the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: sexual abuse of children at Lambeth homes. The evidence put
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: forth is that when Donald Ho's Good, that guy who
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the multiple children was arrested for his crimes against those kids,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: he took out and waived the most unimaginable of things
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: in the air, a Masonic handbook. It was quickly accepted
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that this was done to influence the arresting officers, perhaps
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: in an effort to get himself released. Donald obviously thought
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that being a Freemason would curry him some sort of favor.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: So you just got to imagine that how bizarre that is.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: This PA was getting arrested. This whole thing is already
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: incredibly corrupt, the entire thing, And when this PI is
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: getting arrested, he takes out a Freemason Masonic handbook and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: waves it around to show the officers that he's a Freemason.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, unsubstantiated. Forget that. I told you that. But
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Donald was not an isolated reference to Freemasonry, you see.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Applebee QC. Created in nineteen ninety five a report that,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: among other things, investigated the extent of Freemasonry within Lambeth.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: She exchanged correspondence with the Grand Secretary of the Freemasons,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and in her report she commented the following quote. During
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the course of my inquiry, I've received numerous allegations as
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to the cause of Lambeth's problems, including the influence of Freemasonry,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a mafia exerting pressure over the officers, and a portkring
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: holding officers and members to ransom. I have received no
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: evidence to substantiate these allegations. End quote. However, later on
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: in the Inquiry Report section, it describes that Donald Hosegood
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: was confirmed to be a Freemason by the Grand Secretary.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: On the SOSA Twitter page now called x so sus
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: stated the following quote, so, so we're right. Freemason's running
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Shirley Oaks house parent Donald Hosegood, the person the police
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: said was dead but was alive hashtag Shirley Hell. A
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: list of names of perpetrators was given to the Grand
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Lodge in order to identify if these people were members.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: David Staples, the Grand Secretary of the Freemasons, stated that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: while there were no other matches, quote, it would be
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: difficult with absolute certainty to say that someone was not
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a Freemason end quote. It was also discovered, however, that
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Clive Driscoll, that investigator who was pushing for justice, who
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: had gotten the name of the names of the ten
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: kids who were attending the parties, who has taken off
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: of the case, Clive himself was also a Freemason. Clive
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: said that while he had been a Mason for over
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: thirty years at the time, no one at the police
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: station had ever asked him to look the other way
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: because of his status. Strangely, though a few names connect
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Lambeth to the Freemasons, their role in what happened at
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: those children's homes remains shrouded in secrecy. But beyond the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: failures of Operation Trawler, Operation Middleton, the redress scheme, the
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: missing files, and refusing to reopen the investigation of Peter
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Davis's death, more failures have continued to happen in this investigation.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: On July twenty eighth, twenty seventeen, the BBC reported a
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: story named hundreds of Sensitive Council documents found in London estate.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: These documents were found on the Gowden estate in Clapham
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and contained names, addresses and confidential information pertaining to child
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: protection and rent arrears. SOSA, upon hearing of this discovery,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: believed the files could contain missing information related to the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: historic sex abuse investigations that were covered up by the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: police and government entities. However, before SOSA could get to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the files, Lambeth Council moved them to a secure location
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: for review. Clive Driscoll agreed with SOSA that these documents
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: could prove the fact that the Lambeth Council knew the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: full extent of the child abuse allegations and that they
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: could prove that they covered up industrial scale abuse within
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: those children's homes. However, these documents were kept guarded by
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the Lambeth Council and to this day they have never
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: been revealed. To this day, nobody knows what happened to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: those files. Nobody knows what's on those files. And to me,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: why the fuck are they hiding the files if there's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: nothing to hide? You get what I'm saying. And now
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: we get to the mysterious death of Bulick Forsyth, perhaps
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the most damning element in the aspect of this entire
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: story though, and this is the part that intrigued me
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: about this story. It was a report about this death
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that really set me off when I read about it
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: on a BBC article that showed me there's more than
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: to this than the official story. Bulick Forsyth was a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: manager in the Housing Department of Lambeth Council. He managed
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: around ten social services around the Lambeth borough. It was
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Thursday February twenty fifth, nineteen ninety three, when at nine am,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: a neighbor of Bulix noticed that mister Forsyth's alarm had
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: not gone off as normal and his shades were open,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: strange for that early in the morning. Clearly he hadn't
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: gone to work or gotten up. Only thirty minutes later,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a colleague of Bulix called his home and noticed that
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: he didn't pick up. Bulick was never late for work.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: He was considered to be a model employee, and so
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: his not coming to work with no explanation was incredibly strange,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to say the least. Around the same time that Bulick's
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: concerned colleague called his home phone, a longtime resident of
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Foster Court noted three men leaving the building in business attire.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: They were carrying folders and briefcases, and the resident noted
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that the men looked official. Then, at one fifty five pm,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that same resident noted a strange car parked in the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: parking lot with two men inside that he had never seen,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: but they were not the same men that left the building.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Four hours earlier, at five PM, a coworker of Bulick's
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: dropped by his apartment to check on him. The curtains
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: were now closed, and she called through the letter slot
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in the door to see if he was home. No
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: one answered. At one am on Friday the twenty six,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: another resident of Foster Court was woken up from their
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: sleep by people running from the back of the building.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Only an hour later, his upstairs neighbor came down to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: find smoke billowing in the building and they called the
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: fire brigade. As the fire brigade responded, it was found
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that a gas stovetop had been left on but failed
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: to explode. It was discovered that missing from Bulick Forsyth's
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: apartment were documents, but the nature of those documents has
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: never been revealed. Also missing was his silver rolex. Bulick
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: himself had been found severely beaten, especially in the areas
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: around his head. He had been dead since at least
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: five pm, when his coworker had dropped by to check
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: on him, then yelled through the letter slot. There were
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: many theories on why Bulick may have been murdered. You see,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Bulick was theorized to be bisexual, and though he had
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a new wife and daughter, he still would have been
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: a target for homophobic killings. Another theory was the culture
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: of racism in the department of housing where he worked.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: He may have been killed as a part of some
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: sort of racially motivated attack. Another theory, though, that cultivated
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: all three, is that Bulick was disliked for more than these.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Bulick did things by the book. He was honest and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: confronted people about things that they were doing that were
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: against the rules. One coworker called person A, allegedly dislike
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Bulick very deeply. The culture of the Housing department was toxic,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: to say the least, with black workers being marginalized and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: prevented from advance, women reporting social harassment, and reports of
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: male staff members showing hardcore porphit to others openly in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the office. After Bulick was moved to Social Services away
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: from Housing, person A felt they could quote still get
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: to him in Social Services end quote and told Bulick
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: something to that effect. Bulick told a friend of his,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: yet it was never followed up on. But Bulick's integrity
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: was about to get him into more trouble. It is
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: suggested that in the early nineteen nineties, Bulick discovered that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the basement of Lambeth Town Hall was being used to
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: make partic films. These films, according to a confidant of Bulick's,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: involved children. This discovery would eventually lead to the Harris Report.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: So the discovery and the allegations are that they were
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: making child in the basement of the Lambeth Town Hall.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Take that in for a second. All of this corruption,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the Lambeth City Council being so involved with children and
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: pass then cover ups and high profile people and official
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: now you've got them making child porn in their official
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: building that they're probably selling. Bulick told one person in
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: particular after this discovery that the Youth Assessment Center was
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: closed but was still being used horrifyingly to make child
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: that's right. The Youth Assessment Center was another property managed
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: by the Lambeth City Council and inside of that abandoned building,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: according to him, officials were bringing children there to reap
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: them on camera. A witness in Social Services stated that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Bulick told her he would come forward about everything he
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: had learned he knew of as abuse ring, a ring
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that was running on Lambeth City Council premises, and he
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: just couldn't stay quiet. And then three days later he
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: suddenly turns up beaten to death inside of his apartment.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: After his beating, it seemed that his attackers wanted to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: ensure that whatever he knew died with him because his
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: apartment was set ablaze. His family believes ever since his death,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: that he was murdered to keep him silent about what
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: he knew. When the when i CSA created their reports
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: looking into this murder, they papered over the incident with
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: this statement quote. The murder of mister Forsyth remains unsolved.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: It was the subject of a recent review by the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police Service Operation Red Snow as a result of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: concerns that there was a connection between mister Forsyth's employment
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: at Lambeth Council and his murder, but no evidence of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: such a connection was found. At the very least, the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: murder of mister Forsyth is likely to have caused concern
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and fear on the part of staff and counselors. End
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: quote what a joke. Perhaps Bulick's murder was more than
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: just a message to keep him quiet, but a warning
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: sign for others who may stumble upon damning information that
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: if they ever want to speak out about the Lambeth
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Council and their child pouring, you should stay quiet too,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: unless you want to die. When The Wadsworth Guardian reported
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: on the story, they reached out to the Metropolitan Police Service,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: which conducted the investigation into Forsyth's death dubbed Operation Red
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: snow Wadsworth Guardian had to speak to them because no
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: records were publicly available, but concerningly, the po last never
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: responded to their inquiry. They got no information about the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: investigation out of them. There are a few witness statements, though,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: that seemed particularly concerning and point to this being more
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: than just a senseless murder. Bulick was brutally killed and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: his rolex was discovered missing. Some believed this to be
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: a robbery gone wrong, but then why would the three
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: men have been seen leaving the area with briefcases and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: folders of documents. The same resident later noted that at
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: almost two pm, near the time Bulick was killed, a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: white car was parked in the corner of the building
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and the two men inside were staring at him. This
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: guy had lived there for a very long time at
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: that point, almost twenty years, and he had never seen
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: a car parked in that location before, nor had he
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: ever seen the men in the vehicle. What's more is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: that person A was Bulick's former superior while at the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Department of Housing, and they stated that Bulick had used
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: a Lambeth Council employed moving company to get into his apartment.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: That means that the Lambeth Council moving company had a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: set of his keys which could have easily been used
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: to make copies, because remember, there was no struggle to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: get into the apartment. There were no broken windows, no
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: broken doors. Allegedly, there was a close relationship between this
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: moving company and the City Council. These removal men had
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: nearly unlimited access to the council offices and it suggested
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that these same removal men cleared out the evidence of
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the child film creation in the basement of the town hall.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: But his murder to this day remains unsolved and uninvestigated.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and according to the government, it has nothing
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to do with that child bring that he happened to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: allegedly stumble upon in the basement of a city council building.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: After all was said and done, the inquiry had found
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: that Lambeth Council had been grossly negligent. The current state
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: of Lambeth Council agrees, and the Strategic Director of Children's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Services gave a full apology to the victims at the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: inquiry's public hearing. The icsa's closing remarks are that the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: abuse was widespread and horrific, expanning four decades of crime.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Though approximately seven hundred and five victims were reported, like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: we said before, the true number of victims was likely
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: much high. The inquiry heard from numerous witnesses who described
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the nature of their abuse. Included indecent assaults and disgusting
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: sele abuse by numerous individuals, as well as rampant racism,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: violentual assaults, violent physical abuses, beatings, punchings, slappings, broken bones,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: children that were allowed to go home and were murdered,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: so much more. The victims also expressed what hardships they
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: had to endure throughout their lives because of their experiences.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Many of the victims stated that they had reported their
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: abuses to adults, but they were ignored or investigations launched
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: went nowhere. The ICSA recommended that Lambeth Council should create
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: a comprehensive action plan to respond to issues that would
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: arise after the conclusion of the ICSA. They advised further
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: training for counselors, improved vetting processes, mandates for reporting abuse,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and finally that the Metropolitan Police should reopen the investigation
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: into fifteen year old Peter Davis's death. After so much
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: pain and horror endured by these children, there were little
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: to no recommendations for putting anyone behind bars. The report
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: was little more than a virtue signal, a slap on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the wrist for the council. It seemed once again that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the victims of Lambeth Children's Homes were ignored. Section j
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: three of the inquiry report recorded the mass amount of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: reports and the date ranges they were received by the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police. From nineteen sixty three to eighty eight they
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: received eighteen reports, From eighty nine to ninety nine they
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: received sixty three, from two thousand to twenty ten they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: received one hundred and nine, and from twenty eleven to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty they received ninety three. The section goes on
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: to paint Obleak portrait with the following information quote. Five
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine individuals made allegations against a total
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: of one hundred and seventy seven adults employed at or
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: connected with Shirley Oaks, one hundred and forty individuals made
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: allegations in respect of South Vale, and thirty six individuals
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: made allegations arising from Angel Road against nine adults and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: further unknown persons. It states that the children who made
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: complaints were stereotyped and ignored, that those who ran away
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: from the children's homes and reported they were abused were
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: for to return to them, that the police were unsympathetic
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to their cries of abuse, and that the children reported
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: abusers that were in the police department itself, but they
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: were ignored. So many children had been betrayed and none
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: received true justice. Raymond Stevenson, above all others, had been
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: denied the justice deserved. Raymond had been a hero in
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: this process, bringing people together and pushing for the law
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: to make things right. Raymond used his exceptional talents as
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: a music producer to highlight the suffering of the victims
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: with a music video called Don't Touch It, It's Mine.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: The music video spoke about the emotions and experiences of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the victims of Lambeth's and what horrors they had to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: endure because of their past. But Raymond, although he was
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: a victim, was treated unkindly by the council. Unsurprisingly, he
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: was even banned from attending Lambeth town hall meetings in
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen for accusations of scuffles with security and racially
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: abusive comments. Raymond himself denied these allegations, yet he was
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: still banned from the premises. There was one small victory
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: for the victims, yet it may have done more harm
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: than good. The Lambeth Redress Scheme was opened in January
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, vowing to provide monetary compensation for the victims
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of abuse at Lambeth Children's Arms. The Redress scheme paid
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: out at least over forty nine million pounds in twenty twenty,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: which equates to roughly fifty eight point five million US dollars.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: The Redress scheme was designed to allow victims to receive
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: compensation without a lengthy court process, thereby lowering the suffering
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: of having to relive the memories. But the Redress scheme
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: was yet another nightmare for the victims. The Council initially
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: offered insultingly low payments ten thousand dollars for lifelong suffering
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: at the hands of their government, and sadly, in twenty twenty,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Mirror UK reported that the victims suffered further through the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: redress process, with some being driven to This was the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: case for Hu'snabanu, who we started off this episode talking
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: about who because of the Redress process attempted.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I had to go through those procedures and stop talking
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: about those deep top things that only spoken in childhood.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Now I'm an adult, and it broke me. It literally
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: broke my every single being, and that resulted in a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: speed attempt. I ended up in coma and a coma
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: for quite a while in the intensive gay unit.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: She lived through the attempt, but others did not. Jason McKenzie,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: forty one, sped while waiting for his repayment process to end.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: The average waiting time was eighteen months, a year and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a half of having to relive the memories of horrific abuse,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: and his was not the only others accused the Redress
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: scheme of racism, as the all black children's home of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Brixton was not included in the project. For many of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: the victims, opening back up about the abuses they suffered
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and then waiting for eighteen months for the process to
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: end was too much. The darkness of their childhood was
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: brought flooding back and it was too painful for them
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: to bear. One victim, Judy Jessa, stated the scheme only
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: made things worse. In looking at the Redress Scheme application, document,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: it's clear why the victims are required to provide details
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: of their assault and the severity that are told what
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: their abuse is are worth in compensation. So basically, you know,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: getting your touched by an isn't worth as much as
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: getting aimed by a bun, or being forced to give
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: oil to a isn't as bad as being full on
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: its disgusting. It should all be the exact same, and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: it should all be a large amount of money, because,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: after all, these kids were forced to relive their memories,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: even if not in court, and then they were told
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: how much they had earned from the destruction of their lives.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: The process advertised itself as swift and compassionate while offering
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: insulting amounts forcing the victims to relive their abuse and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: wait a year and a half for the process to end.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: The redress scheme, as with every other detail of the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Lambeth child abuse scandal, was unjust cruel and demented, costing
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: further lives and inflicting even more harm upon these tortured
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: souls who had already gone through so much. Such a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: story sadly is not isolated. More springs are reported around
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: the world, More are discovered every year, and some are
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: even more extensive. Child abuse is one of the cruelest
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: actions that a human being can undertake, as their victims
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: are helpless and innocent, unable to understand what is happening
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to them or get the proper help. The victims of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: lambeth Children's homes suffered to an immense scale that their
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: lives will forever be altered, and no amount of money
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: that redress scheme would offer would change that. No amount
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: of money could resolve the deaths either. Several children died
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: at the hands of Lambeth and were denied a proper investigation.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Then Lambeth claimed more lives later on during the redress
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: scheme process. The victims wanted justice, not money. James Kenny,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: one of the victims of Michael Carroll, told BBC that
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: he wanted to hear that it wasn't his fault, that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: he didn't deserve what happened to him. The children of
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Lambeth deserved to see their abusers in prison, yet in
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: the end, so many more watched free than were put
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: behind bars. These herring of events occurred in what is
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: some people's own hometown, the city of London, a place
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: that is supposedly vibrant and beautiful, but down every street
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: in the Lambeth Borough, the past stains the streets with
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: the blood of unanswered crimes.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I just got a chill going through that. Wow, guys,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: holy shit, that was a super long episode. Oh look
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: at all my hairs on end. I just got goosebumps
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: from reading that. That is crazy. I feel so bad
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: for all those kids. I'm really hoping that some of
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the victims watched this episode. I'm going to try and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: reach out to them, and I hope that I did
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: their story justice here by trying to expose Thish. There's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: so many unanswered questions here in this case, Michael that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: hosting those parties on the property with prominent people, police
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  Speaker 1: officers being involved in these rings, hundreds of bills that
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  Speaker 1: were involved in children that were never held accountable or
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  Speaker 1: even publicly identified. Then the unsolved murder of mister Forsyth,
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  Speaker 1: and how he was going to expose a child production
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  Speaker 1: ring that was being ran in the basement of the
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  Speaker 1: Lambeth Council offices and in an abandoned care facility. So
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  Speaker 1: there's just so much in filth in this story that
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's absolutely mind blowing. Be sure to share
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  Speaker 1: this out everybody. Let people know what you're listening to
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  Speaker 1: and what you're watching, because these are stories that need
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  Speaker 1: to be told, that people need to know about, that
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  Speaker 1: we need to raise awareness about. Because this has happened
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  Speaker 1: so many times, you know, somewhat major has done. It
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  Speaker 1: will continue to happen. And like I said at the
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  Speaker 1: start of this podcast, I just want to say I
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  Speaker 1: am doing this because this is like a passion for me,
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  Speaker 1: and every time I read these stories, I get so angry.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to do my part to use my
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  Speaker 1: platform that I built doing something completely different that makes
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  Speaker 1: me happy. I want to use it to point and
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  Speaker 1: shine some light on this injustice because it's really important
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  Speaker 1: people understand that there are criminals that got away that
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: are walking amongst you right now, especially if you're watching
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  Speaker 1: this in London. There are hundreds of bulls that were
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  Speaker 1: never convicted of crimes that are probably shopping at your
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  Speaker 1: same convenience store or at your same supermarket, eating dinner
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  Speaker 1: right next to you at a restaurant. You just never know.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, y'all, thank you for watching. I will see
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you guys on the next one. It's always a pleasure
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: to have you here with me. Thank you from the
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: bottom of my heart for joining me on this journey.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking around this long. If you're still here,
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  Speaker 1: we'll catch you next week. Keep that tinfoil hat on,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and yeah, stay suspicious.