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WorldSBK Spanish Round, WCR, MotoGP Australia 2025 Round 19 Recap in S5 Ep 36 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome back to another edition of the Beef River Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45, and tonight, man, we're going to have some
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  fun because it was a crazy race weekend between World Super Bike
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  and Moto GP. Before we dive into it, let's
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  bring in the guests for tonight. TJ, what's going on?
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  Man? Welcome to the show.
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  How you doing, man? Patriots won, so I know you
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  happy. Oh yeah, we're doing good.
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  I mean, it's still early or five and two, but you know, what can
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  I say besides that, racing was a great weekend overall.
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  It's a little bittersweet though, I must say.
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  You know, more America is done now.
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  We're a super bike is done. So it's just Moto GP.
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  We're looking forward to all our champions are crowned, you know,
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  so like it's just now we're looking forward to just see what
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  please riders can put on the show for the last couple of
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  races so. No doubt.
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  Well, I'm looking forward to hearing what you got to say
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  about World Super Bike and Moto GP because I know that it was
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  fun for me to watch. Let's bring in Luis Ortega, the
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  dumbest guy. I mean, I think you were making
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  it rain Louis this weekend. How you doing?
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  I'll tell you what man, all my, a lot of my pigs earned me some
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  cash. You know, I, I went online, I
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  posted a little bit of money here and there, UFC as well as
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  motorcycle racing and and I, I did pretty well this weekend
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  all. Right, That's what's up, man,
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  That's what's up and all is well.
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  Moto GP was entertaining, World Spike was entertaining and you
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  made some cash. So it doesn't get better than
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  that for sure. We got a three P tonight, but
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  we're going to hold it down and have some fun on the show called
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  Be Forever Cool. So fellas, as I can get my my,
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  my, my situation to work, which is unfortunate, but now I think
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  I got it figured out. Look at that technology.
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  Got to love it. I feel bad for AWS because they
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  sure slow down. They down they down you.
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  Know talk about, you know, one point of failure, but not on
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  this show. What's going on fellas?
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  I don't even know where to start because it it, you know, world
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  super bike was huge down to the last race, some controversy in
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  there, a little bit of Rossi ask Mark Marquez in the Super Bowl
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  race a world super bike. So I I don't even know where to
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  begin. But I guess let's bring in there
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  because Top Rock is going to be coming over to Moto GP.
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  What a way to go out. I think Bulgu should
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  automatically go to Moto GP with him because next year I think he
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  might fall asleep in first place.
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  So what are your thoughts TJ on world super bike what top rock
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  has done got a three peat two different manufacturers BMWs
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  looking serious now before you start TJII want to I want to say
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  this because you know I'm sitting here like Rossi's over
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  here winning on a BMW and in in Indianapolis right, and I'm
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  sitting here Moto GBMW wants to come to Moto GP GP.
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  Can we see VR46 on a on a on a BMW Moto GP bike in 2027 or you
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  think they're going to stay with Ducati?
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  Food for thought. What are your thoughts on what
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  top rack did? I mean, before I jump to top
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  rack, I've been saying we need another manufacturing in Moto
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  GPI mean I know some have disappeared for there are
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  reasons, but we need another manufacturing Moto GP stuff that
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  would be pretty cool to have BMW in there.
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  But yeah, top Rat's amazing man to have a Turkish rider just
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  pretty much dominate. You know, we don't really see
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  these type of riders often. And to have a third championship
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  to with BMW with his pretty impressive, you know, not see it
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  often, but just just class acting.
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  Yeah, it's just just just his effort.
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  And she still was breaking with the wheel, the wheel up in the
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  rear and just, I can just imagine just being passed by a
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  rider and then their wheels in the air.
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  I think that'll just I have target fixation and that would
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  just disrupt me, disrupt me a little bit.
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  So, you know, Top Rack has a game plan and it worked to
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  perfection. And I think he probably wanted
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  to put the clean sweep in for this weekend.
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  But Bulliger gave him a little get a little check, you know,
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  just to say, hey, you know, I don't give AF.
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  You know, I'm trying to win this too.
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  So he kind of little backed off a little bit and still make sure
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  you can bring it home because if he let it slip, he probably will
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  let the championship slip to do so.
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  Go ahead. But it was it was great to see,
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  it was overall good weekend performance from Top Rock and
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  and Buluga. No doubt, Louis, what are your
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  thoughts, man? I mean, pretty impressive, you
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  know, Top Rock just had to keep it upright.
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  It was a little controversial that little love tap that Buluga
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  gave Top Rock and and the BMW went down and he went down.
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  You know, we saw Bulliga say that's not how you know, it's
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  not, it's not one of his best race.
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  It's not the way he wants to win, you know, which is the
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  proper thing to say. But watching them all season, I
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  yeah, he's a stand up dude from what I can tell.
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  I don't know him personally, but from what I can tell.
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  What are your thoughts on on what Top Rock did you know 2
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  championships for BMW? Is this enough for BMW to, you
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  know, start to thump their chest a little bit or should they be
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  grateful because, you know, you know, it may be tough in the
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  future? I mean, on the BMW front, I
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  think they should be very grateful that they had the
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  opportunity to work with somebody with the talent like
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  Top Rack for the two years he was there, because there's been
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  a lot of other asses in that BMW and nobody's been able to win a
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  championship. So to win 2 back-to-back on a
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  bike that's never won before, that in itself tells you two
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  things. That BM WS come a long way, but
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  that they got the right rider on the bike because there's been a
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  lot of riders on the BM WS. If you go back to all the years
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  that they've been in World Super Bike, you're talking X Moto GP
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  riders, X Moto GPX, Moto 2 Champions, X125CC Champions,
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  250CC Champions. There's been a lot of riders
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  that have been through the BMW wood chipper and they came out
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  on the other side, beat the fuck up.
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  They didn't come out champions. You know, Marco Melandry, you
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  know, the guy's super talented, Moto GP rider, champion in
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  multiple different classes, everything up.
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  He couldn't get the bite to win on a regular basis.
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  He couldn't bring a championship.
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  Scott Redding, he couldn't bring a championship.
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  I mean, again, it's a long list. BMWs been doing this for more
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  than a few years now. I mean, when they first came
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  out, we kind of made fun of them as like the new generation GSXR
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  because they were cheap. You can get a lot of horsepower
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  and everybody was buying them because you can get insurance
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  really cheap. Because insurance companies
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  didn't realize that BMWs 1000 was actually a sport bike, so
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  they were still insuring it as a sport touring bike.
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  So everybody's getting 1000 because you can get full
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  coverage for a year for like 600 bucks.
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  And then as soon as about 50,000 of those things got total
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  insurance companies like wait a second, this this, this shit
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  ain't no touring bike. And the prices went up on
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  insurance, but I digress. This is a little side ramp from
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  BMW when they first launched to where they're at now.
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  And they are powerhouse. You know, in the leader bike
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  market, they are powerhouse and I'm glad that they finally got
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  this Monica off their back. But again, man, it was with top
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  rack and and he's not a he's not your normal rider.
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  And I don't see anybody else in the paddock that's going to be
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  able to slip into his shoes on a BMW less any other bike and
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  compete with Bulgar because look what Bulgar did this weekend,
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  man, he knew he had to show up and he had to win three races in
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  a row and he put in the work. I mean, that Super Bowl race
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  controversy aside, I mean, he put in the work, man.
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  He won the races he needed to win.
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  He had the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl issue again, man.
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  The way you look at things sometimes, you might say it's
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  dirty. You might say it's this, you
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  might say it's that. I mean, I love to bust on Ducati
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  guys. It's in the owner's manual.
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  If you're losing, fuck everybody else's race up because you're on
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  a Ducati and you can't win. That's that's that's a long time
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  ago kind of talk right there. I don't know man.
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  In this year, a lot of people had a Ducatis were like oh wait,
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  where's that old manual where I since I can't win, let me fuck
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  it up for everybody else. You know, you know, we can't
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  speak for what people do, Ducatis, that's all.
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  I'm just saying, you know, But Buliga.
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  Go ahead, Buliga did Buliga did his part.
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  Even if they didn't have that incident, like Bulaga
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  technically I think would have won all three races, man, even
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  without the incident, like I think he would have won all
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  three races and he would have walked away and and now he's
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  probably kicking himself in the ass because he was like, man,
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  that one incident cost me the championship.
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  I mean, there's a lot of things we were talking about before he
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  lost by 13 points, man, at the end of the day, you know how
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  many DNFS he had because his bike blew up or chain broke or
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  this happened or blah, blah, blah.
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  Like it's not like he was in the Kitty litter all the time.
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  Like most of the times when he didn't finish on the podium or
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  in the top step, it was a mechanical issue or just top
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  rack was on that next level. Right, exactly.
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  I, I, yeah, I was going to bring that up.
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  You know, does the does Ducati, you know, kind of owe Bulaga a
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  little bit of apology because, you know, if, if those things
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  didn't happen, you know, it, it could have been different.
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  And and you know, it's always going to be the very difficult
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  next year for riders, I believe, But we don't know what that
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  before are double sided swing arm is going to do yet.
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  So, you know, I I think they like it.
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  But TJ, what are your thoughts on, you know, you know, Bulgar's
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  misfortune as far as the bike issues as we were talking about
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  off here and stuff like that. You know you got sold to the
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  masses now. Yeah, I mean like every rider, I
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  feel like, you know, I mean mechanical, they they, you know,
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  you have your mistakes, both sides rider and your mechanics.
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  So I mean, I don't know going into everybody wants to be
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  perfect, but I feel like Bulgar was pretty much perfect all
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  season. Like he did what he had to do so
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  that, you know, mechanics I feel like had a few slip ups and
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  there. So I do think as a team, they
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  all owe each other an apology. Like, you know, at the same time
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  they all do it together. So you can't really put full
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  blame on the mechanics for just slipping up in there, you know,
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  for him just losing by 13 points, you know?
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  But at the end of the day, like, it just goes to show like how
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  much you know, you have to be on point with everything going into
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  every race weekend on both sides, you know?
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  Right now, let me and I'll I'll bring Lewis in.
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  Where you at? There you go.
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  What BMW is done because Top Rock had issues in the beginning
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  too. He was coming in there flipping
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  over tables in the beginning of the season as well on the 25
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  bike and stuff like that. From a team perspective, BMW got
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  2, Ducati has what they have, they got a gang.
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  As far as World Super Bike, was the team of BMW better or just
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  Top Rock was just able to ride around the problems of the BMW
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  because you know, Ducati, they both they struggled, the team
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  struggled and, and so did BMW, but obviously Top Rock came out
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  with the championship. So what are your thoughts on,
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  you know, the team as far as BMW versus Ducati and, and who was
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  able to recover better? Or is it just, again, like I
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  said, Top Rock just has the better, better feel on a bike
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  regardless of how that bike ride?
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  I think it's definitely Ducati because if you look at, just
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  look at what the standings are, who's number one BMW, who's
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  number 2 Ducati, who's number 3 Ducati, Where is, where is top
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  rack's teammate like #8? Yeah, something like that.
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  He's down there. Yeah, there's a lot of Ducati's
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  between top rack and the next BMW.
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  And not because there's not a lot of BMWs on the grid.
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  It's just top racks able to do something with that bike that
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  other guys haven't been able to do.
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  And it's going to be interesting to see, you know, when these new
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  guys come in to take top racks place and change the team up and
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  this new face that the team's going to have.
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  Let's see where BM WS at next year.
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  You know, I mean, maybe they can get something together and and
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  and still be good. But Ducati overall has the
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  better team and Ducati has overall the better package.
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  And anybody who thinks otherwise is out of their mind.
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  And as far as having a conventional swing arm, that
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  makes Ducati more dangerous, not less dangerous.
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  Because guess what? You know who won like 5 or 6
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  super bike championships between 2000 and 2008 when they had a
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  conventional swing arm? It's an Italian bike.
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  Oh yeah, 999. And 999 cleaned up a lot of
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  people's clock when everybody was like kind of writing off
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  Ducati because they went to this weird looking bike with a
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  conventional swinger. I mean, what happened, man?
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  They started winning championship after championship
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  after championship after championship.
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  Neil Hodgson, Troy Bayless, these guys cleaned up between
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  2001 and 2008. So now you're going to put a
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  stronger motor with a better swing arm.
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  It's not a sexier swing arm. Like that's the one thing that
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  pure Ducati guys. Oh, you're losing the single
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  strided swing arm. You're getting the performance.
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  You're getting an incredible performance.
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  A conventional swing arm makes the bike so much more stable.
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  Gives you so much more. Power.
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  I don't know if I'm a fool, Ducati S or whatever, but I do
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  like the the the double sided swing arm.
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  It's sexy. I'm not.
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  Going to lie. Oh man, it's.
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  Sexy it sure. Is you're really sexy, but for
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  for for performance, conventional swing arm is going
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  to help you put that power down a lot better than the single
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  sided swing. Arm right, So do you think that
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  it will move on a little bit? Where else will bike and get
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  into Moto GP? What are what are your thoughts
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  on the celebration? It's tricky when you know, you
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  know, Bulaga won the last three races and and you did your best,
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  but you didn't win the last three years is what you thought
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  on Top Rock celebration? Is it the same when you don't
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  win, but you win the championship?
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  And, and again, you kind of also got to know like, look, if, if,
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  if these things didn't happen for Bulaga, you know, it would
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  have been different too. Yeah, I mean, like, you could
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  just see it in space. Like he wasn't satisfied.
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  I mean, he obviously did the best he can, but Top Rock had to
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  celebrate his championship. So I mean, he put on a little
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  show, which is pretty cool. I mean, at the end of the day,
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  it's for the fans at this point. So it was good for him to put on
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  a nice little Roland burnout and then, you know, a little circle
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  burnout and all that good stuff. I don't know if you have to pay
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  fines for that, but I don't know if it like her Beluga's feelings
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  or anything. But at the same time, he was
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  just celebrating and that had to be done.
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  But you can see it in Beluga's face, like he really had no way
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  to celebrate his at this point. It was for the championship so.
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  I mean, I mean, how you, how you going to top that burnout that
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  top rock did right, you know? You can't top that, you know
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  you. Know you can't top that.
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  What are what are your thoughts Lewis on on the celebration?
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  And, you know, just, you know, I, I, I appreciate the theatrics
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  that these writers put into their celebration and stuff like
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  that, but I think they need the event planner.
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  Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly where he came up with
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  this celebration. I'm sure somebody likes Marvel
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  movies or something like that. But it was fun.
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  It was funny to to watch it and stuff like that.
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  It just shows a little bit of levity.
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  I mean, the the motorcycle season is a long time with a lot
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  of stress. So if you get a moment at to do
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  something fun or something funny, I mean take the
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  opportunity because there's not too many that come around when
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  you can kind of let off that steam.
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  As far as him celebrating, I mean, if you finish 10th place
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  and you still win the championship, you still win the
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  championship. You get to celebrate because you
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  still put in the work for the entire year.
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  And all right, let's say he tried to win the race and then
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  he crashed. We'd be here talking shit about,
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  Oh is it dumb ass should have just settled for 10th place.
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  Settle for 10th place. Do what you got to do to win the
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  big picture. Don't worry about the little
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  picture because you're in the last race of the year.
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  You don't need to win it. If they tell you look, all you
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  need to do is come in 10th or better.
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  I'll go for 3rd, 4th, 5th. I'll even drop all the way back
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  to 8th if I had to. I don't know if I dropped to
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  10th because now it's getting sketchy, but but you know, I
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  wouldn't, I wouldn't do anything risky.
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  And then after what happened, the Super Bowl race, even that
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  I'm probably was wearing in his mind a little bit, he's like,
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  you know what, let me stay away from this guy because he's
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  riding at a different level. Not that he's doing it
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  intentionally, but it already happened once.
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  If I put myself in that position again, it might happen again.
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  So let me stay away from him. Let me stay away from this other
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  guy that I already know is kind of an idiot.
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  You know, like you're that last race when you're in that
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  position, you're thinking about a lot more than just corner to
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  corner. Like you got to be very
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  strategic and stay away from the people that you know don't meet.
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  You don't, don't, aren't there to help you and might be there
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  to harm you. Right.
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  And you know, he's not going to be there next year.
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  So it is, it is a fitting way. I, I take it back.
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  I, he doesn't need an event planner.
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  I, I realized like at the racetrack, this kind of thing
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  that happened all the time. There's just not on national TV.
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  But no, it was, it was, it's a good way for him.
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  Like I I'd said last week, whether Buluga wins or top
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  ranked wins, I'm happy for both of them.
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  But Bulu got now come into Moto GP as the reigning world super
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  bike champion. At least that puts some kind of
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  up there with like that Ben Spies.
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  Because I think the last guy who actually did this was Ben Spies.
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  Top rack you mean? Well, top rack going to Moto GP.
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  Yeah, it it, it puts him in that rare air with Ben Spies, the
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  last World super bike champion that went to Moto GP.
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  Right and. Ben Spies was able to get a
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  couple of WS. He was, I mean, I, you know, for
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  the for him, I mean, he was staying healthy, right?
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  I mean, that's, that's that's the issue.
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  You know, I think if he, if he was healthier, I was able to
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  stay healthy or recover, I should say better.
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  It would it would have been different.
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  He would, he would have had definitely more wins.
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  What are your thoughts, guys? As far as next season?
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  I think Honda, you know, Honda should have kept Ika, Luku, Ono
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  and Chabi. Because those guys were, they
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  were making progress, they were in it, they could get in the top
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  five. And, and I think, you know,
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  starting with two new riders, not to say that, you know, these
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  guys can't come up to speed very quickly.
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  I don't understand the, the, the, the thinking and what
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  Honda's done. It's great for Ducati.
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  It's great for Yamaha because they got 2 experienced guys as
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  far as in Moto 2, Moto GP and on, on different manufacturers
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  coming over to their team. So, you know, I, I think it's a
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  win win for those manufacturers. But what are your thoughts on
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  what Honda is doing by getting these two new young guys from
• 20:40
  Moto 2 in Moto GP because some cat was a Moto GP rider?
• 20:46
  I mean, the expectations must be really high.
• 20:48
  I mean, hopefully it's about the interior, like inside the
• 20:54
  paddock as opposed to, you know, putting out on the track because
• 20:58
  I mean, you, you, I think you always want to keep someone with
• 21:02
  experience around, you know, so to get rid of 22 riders that are
• 21:09
  top ten, definitely it's hard to just guarantee that you're going
• 21:14
  to get 2 new riders just because of their experience.
• 21:17
  That's just going to get you back on the same point.
• 21:19
  So I don't know if it was just the camaraderie and interior
• 21:23
  with like the team where they think these two new riders will
• 21:27
  be better off as coaching and getting things done.
• 21:31
  But I don't know, Honda always has something up they sleeve.
• 21:35
  I'm sure they always can work something out and I think for
• 21:41
  janitor that it would be much better suit for him going into
• 21:45
  this situation too. So I'm excited to see what he
• 21:48
  what he can pull out. I mean, I felt like he was just
• 21:50
  going into the fire going into the GP and he's having such a
• 21:54
  Goodyear in Moto 2. So if.
• 21:56
  I'm Sam Cat. I want to stay in Moto GP.
• 21:58
  Come on, I don't care. Well, him, him, him finishing
• 22:01
  last place as Moto GP. No disrespect to Royal Super
• 22:04
  Bike, but it's still a much better life if you're a Moto GP,
• 22:09
  right? Real super bike rider.
• 22:12
  No disrespect to these world super bike riders.
• 22:16
  Lewis, what are your thoughts? Honda need to, to, to to cut to
• 22:19
  save some money. I mean, what are we?
• 22:21
  What are we talking here? No, they wanted to save some
• 22:24
  money. Like this isn't the way to save
• 22:25
  money. I mean, they should have kept at
• 22:28
  least one of the two guys either.
• 22:32
  If you look at the progression over the last couple of years
• 22:34
  with the riders that they have now, they've shown incremental
• 22:37
  increases in their performance, incremental.
• 22:40
  And now this year they've actually been competitive on
• 22:43
  more than a few occasions where they've been in the top six, top
• 22:46
  five. I mean, they're really getting
• 22:48
  to the front of the pack here. And it's like just as you're
• 22:52
  getting to the front of the pack, you're going to get rid of
• 22:53
  your riders. And it's like, yeah, the package
• 22:56
  might be there, the bike might be there, but it's one or two
• 22:59
  things. Are they tired of these small
• 23:02
  incremental gains and they want to find somebody that can do
• 23:05
  those big leaps that these two other riders couldn't do?
• 23:09
  Or, you know, is there something with these two riders that
• 23:13
  didn't gel with the team where they just want to kind of like
• 23:15
  clean house and start over with some fresh riders and some new
• 23:18
  ideas? Because again, they're, they're
• 23:20
  tied to this slow incremental. They they believe they have a
• 23:23
  package that could do a bigger leap and maybe they've kind of
• 23:27
  maxed out the potential with the riders that they have.
• 23:29
  No, man, I mean that doesn't sound right.
• 23:32
  Because that doesn't sound right when you look on paper who they
• 23:34
  riders, their app and where they're going.
• 23:36
  Like they're not going to Moto 3, you know, they're moving on
• 23:39
  to other bigger factory bikes. Yeah, they didn't go to, no
• 23:42
  disrespect to BSV, but they didn't go Scott Redding way.
• 23:45
  Yeah. They didn't get Scott Redding.
• 23:48
  So again, you know, you never know what's going on behind the
• 23:52
  scenes. You don't know if it's a money
• 23:53
  thing, you don't know if it's a management issue.
• 23:55
  You don't know if it's a personality, personality clash
• 23:58
  where maybe the riders aren't getting along with the team
• 24:01
  manager or the director or this that.
• 24:03
  Whatever the case is, Honda decided this direction we want
• 24:07
  to go. We want to go with these two
• 24:08
  guys from this other class. We want to bring them here and
• 24:11
  we want to give them an opportunity to try to get the
• 24:14
  Honda street bike back up to the front of the grid.
• 24:17
  And I hope it works out for Honda.
• 24:19
  You know, I, I truly do because I do want to see them.
• 24:23
  I want to see them on the podium on a regular basis again.
• 24:25
  Man, you know, I'm, I'm a old school Honda guy.
• 24:28
  One of my first bikes ever was like a brand new Honda.
• 24:31
  Like my first brand new bike that actually went to a
• 24:34
  dealership and bought was a Honda.
• 24:36
  Everything before that was used second hand, third hand, fifth
• 24:40
  hand, eighth hand sometimes came without keys.
• 24:44
  I don't know where those came from, but.
• 24:46
  But hey, got me on the track. But it got me on the track.
• 24:52
  Before we move on to World Super Bike guys, the WCR concluded as
• 24:59
  well. Maria Herrera won.
• 25:04
  Unfortunately Anna Carrasco didn't race this year.
• 25:09
  What are you guys thoughts on? I don't know how much of that
• 25:11
  you guys got to catch up on Year 2, the WCR, the championship,
• 25:16
  what Yamaha is doing with their R7 and this class, you know?
• 25:21
  What are your thoughts? Yeah, I actually didn't really
• 25:26
  see much of it this year. I mean, I do feel like when they
• 25:31
  first started, I think last year, the year before, it was
• 25:35
  promoting much better and you know, like I was looking forward
• 25:38
  to it. I kind of like sort of missed
• 25:41
  out, which was so much racing going on of watching the ladies
• 25:45
  ride. But for for them to be into it
• 25:48
  with R7, I think it's still pretty cool, hopefully to
• 25:52
  continue it. And just looking at Maria here,
• 25:56
  I set an example, which is with her skill level, it's just it's
• 26:01
  good for her to, you know, set this this step a stone for this
• 26:06
  class. So it was good to see her to win
• 26:08
  the championship. I'm sure it was.
• 26:11
  I didn't see the race. So I just saw it was a good farm
• 26:14
  race. But it's good to see that R7
• 26:18
  running pretty well. OK, that's what's up.
• 26:20
  No, it is. It's definitely great to see and
• 26:22
  I hope it continues and I hope some, you know, we get some
• 26:26
  other names from some of the other classes as far as females
• 26:31
  to get into the the the class. What are your thoughts, Louis?
• 26:34
  I know, I know. You want to know what it costs
• 26:37
  I. Don't want to get cancelled?
• 26:47
  Rex went black. I know what happened.
• 27:02
  I mean, I like, I like the idea behind the class of giving
• 27:05
  younger women the opportunity to kind of work their way into
• 27:08
  racing and prove themselves on the same tracks where the men
• 27:11
  are racing. But I'd like to see women from
• 27:14
  this class move. Over.
• 27:16
  And race with the men's class because, you know, I understand
• 27:22
  having this class and having the opportunity to put a woman as a
• 27:24
  champion. But when Anna Carrasco won her
• 27:29
  championship in the men's class, like that to me is a
• 27:33
  championship. Like you beat everybody.
• 27:36
  You weren't the best of this small group.
• 27:38
  You were the best of the best of all the group.
• 27:41
  And you know, I understand that. Again, last year when this first
• 27:45
  came into effect, they were promoting this so much, they
• 27:47
  were pushing it so hard. And it was actually really
• 27:50
  exciting. Like we got some great racing.
• 27:52
  Like it's really tight racing because when you're racing on
• 27:54
  these smaller bikes, there's no breakaways.
• 27:56
  You know, once in a while you get like 2 top riders that might
• 27:59
  break away, but for the most part it felt almost like Moto 3
• 28:02
  races where everything stayed pretty close.
• 28:04
  And in this year it felt the same but they weren't promoting
• 28:08
  it as much. Like I didn't see he's just just
• 28:10
  like TJ was saying. Like I didn't see as much
• 28:12
  promotion this year. I didn't see as much lead up.
• 28:15
  Like even during the World Super Bike broadcast, like they rarely
• 28:19
  ever spoke about it. Like it felt like an
• 28:22
  afterthought this year, whereas last year they really were
• 28:25
  promoting it the right way. And, you know, I don't want some
• 28:29
  of the women in this class that do have talent to get mitigated
• 28:33
  to only this class. Like I want some of these women
• 28:36
  to get the opportunity to race. Just just racing the class.
• 28:40
  It's not a man's class. It's just a racing class.
• 28:42
  You know, the same condition you're in.
• 28:45
  You know, these men are in the same bike that you're on.
• 28:48
  These men are on. And, and I don't believe in
• 28:51
  motorcycle racing maybe at at the Super bike level where you
• 28:54
  do have to be physically strong to hold on to a 240 plus
• 28:59
  horsepower motorcycle for 22 laps, but I don't believe that a
• 29:03
  woman can't get into that condition either.
• 29:06
  Right. So if you have the skills and
• 29:09
  you are the championship, you know, this year, why don't you
• 29:14
  get an opportunity, see if you can get opportunity to race in
• 29:17
  super sport or even race, you know, in the in the 400 class,
• 29:23
  you know, take that next step. I don't want this to just be the
• 29:26
  end of everybody. All these women's careers, you
• 29:29
  know, like they they have to be able to leap from this to
• 29:32
  something else. And there's no leap.
• 29:34
  And in World Super Bike, the FIM Dorna doesn't have that step to
• 29:38
  take women that are winning in this class and help them get
• 29:41
  into that next class. This is the same thing we talked
• 29:43
  about when we're saying there's no Americans in Moto GP or Moto
• 29:46
  2 or Moto 3. So, so do you think that there
• 29:48
  should be Yeah. I mean, I know you said like,
• 29:51
  you know, just, you know, they can move up to the men's class,
• 29:54
  but do you think, you know, there should be, you know,
• 29:57
  thousand CC bikes option for women as far as moving up or do
• 30:04
  you think that just? Race the class man.
• 30:07
  Just race the class because it is the world stage.
• 30:10
  I mean, outside of going to go outside of that class moving to
• 30:13
  Moto GP it it doesn't get any bigger than that.
• 30:18
  Or even some of these women get an opportunity to race in Moto
• 30:20
  2. You know, somewhere, anywhere.
• 30:23
  Like there has to be a platform where you can elevate from where
• 30:26
  you're at now to another class. Well, I mean, Anna, Anna's in,
• 30:29
  in, in world super bike. She was signed to the factory
• 30:32
  team in the Super sport class this year.
• 30:35
  So, and we, we've seen her in Moto 3IN in Moto in, in the GP
• 30:41
  class, but not Moto 2. So I, I, I see what you're
• 30:45
  saying as far as getting there, but I mean, yeah, I suppose if,
• 30:51
  if there's a fast enough rider in, in, in the, in the WCR
• 30:55
  class, I suspect the next option would be super sport and if
• 30:59
  super sport can transition to Moto 2 and, or world super bike,
• 31:03
  right? Yeah, I mean, that's the thing
• 31:05
  for anything you do, you know, in basketball, you're you, you
• 31:09
  might be in a, you know, a AA or AAA, but there's always a next
• 31:15
  step to to keep moving your progression along as an athlete.
• 31:18
  Like do you want to pay AAA for your whole life?
• 31:20
  You don't want to play AAA for your whole life.
• 31:22
  You want to keep at least a real athlete wants to keep pushing
• 31:25
  themselves competing, competing with people that are a little
• 31:28
  bit better than them, keep pushing their level of play.
• 31:32
  And the same thing with motorcycle racing.
• 31:34
  If you end up racing the same 15 women for the next 5 years, this
• 31:38
  class will be dead because nobody wants to see the same 15
• 31:41
  people racing each other all the time, right?
• 31:43
  That's what we have more of America for.
• 31:45
  Yeah. And, and I do think that would
• 31:46
  change because, you know, we see the likes of Kayla and and some
• 31:49
  of these other young ladies. I think that I think that
• 31:53
  they're the future. Like we see these young, you
• 31:56
  know, college female players moving into the WNBA now.
• 32:00
  I mean, I think they are the future.
• 32:02
  The question is, do they think of it as the WNBA for them or do
• 32:07
  they think like, OK, as far as Kayla, Kayla's like my I want to
• 32:11
  go to, I want to go to Motor America World Super Bike, I mean
• 32:13
  Motor America, the Super bike class and, and not go to the WCR
• 32:17
  or the same thing in Asia or Australia or some of these other
• 32:20
  countries where females are racing in middle classes.
• 32:24
  Yeah, I mean, she's she's got the right mindset because let's
• 32:28
  say Motor America came out with the ladies racing class.
• 32:32
  So Kayla will win every single race, hands down, because I
• 32:36
  don't see any other woman in the US that's on her level right
• 32:39
  now. It's bill train race.
• 32:42
  Bill train break and oil up the. Track but that I don't want to.
• 32:45
  We have to say that class exists because it does so.
• 32:48
  I guess, but all right, take any of those women for bill train
• 32:54
  race and put them on AV2. Same exact bike that Kayla has.
• 32:57
  She wept the she wept the street with them, man.
• 33:00
  Like she has her her mindset is I don't want to race against a
• 33:06
  gender. I want to race in a class of
• 33:09
  bikes. I don't want I don't want to be
• 33:12
  minimalized or marginalized to only racing women.
• 33:15
  I'm not here to race women. I'm here to race the best and
• 33:18
  when I win and I beat somebody, I want to be the best.
• 33:21
  I don't want to. I don't want because I don't
• 33:22
  want somebody to come up to me one day and be like, you're the
• 33:25
  best female rider racing against other females.
• 33:29
  She just wants to say, hey, you're the best rider, period.
• 33:32
  So, OK, I see what you're saying.
• 33:34
  So we need we just need more female writers like Kayla Yeah
• 33:38
  and then and then the WCR would be would be dope will not let's
• 33:41
  say it's not dope now, but the level of competition would be
• 33:44
  higher because we are seeing what she's doing in in in super
• 33:49
  sport class in motor America. So we we, you know, and I.
• 33:53
  Don't want these women that are in this class relegated to only
• 33:57
  being in this class. Like I don't want other teams
• 33:59
  and other managers and other squads looking at them and not
• 34:02
  seeing them as an option, a viable option to go to super
• 34:05
  sport or to go to another class. Because if they can do this in
• 34:08
  this class, they should get the opportunity to do this in
• 34:11
  another class. Because guess what?
• 34:13
  If this was all 15 to 18 year old guys doing this Moto, World
• 34:19
  Super Bike or World Super Sport teams will be looking at them as
• 34:21
  a next possible replacement for somebody on my squad.
• 34:24
  Right. I, I see what you're saying.
• 34:26
  I yeah, and and, and, and I will move on.
• 34:30
  But I'll say this, I think once the level of competition as far
• 34:35
  as the WCR gets to the equivalent, the right.
• 34:38
  And, and I no disrespect to any of those riders, because I think
• 34:41
  Maria, Maria and a few of the, the Sanchez and, and a few the
• 34:45
  top ones, they, they, they're savages.
• 34:48
  But the, for the, the bulk of the riders, they need to get
• 34:52
  their level up to where Maria, Kayla, Sanchez and, and, and
• 34:57
  those likes to, to really, you know, open the doors.
• 35:01
  Like we see they have opportunities because Maria's
• 35:03
  been racing in the European Championship, been racing in
• 35:05
  motor E granting motor E is done at the end this year.
• 35:09
  But nonetheless, they had this. They had enough skills to to be
• 35:13
  able to reach further. And, and a class like this at
• 35:16
  least gives women an opportunity to get to at least strive for
• 35:20
  that first run. You know, let me reach this
• 35:23
  first rung. If I can get to this first rung,
• 35:25
  then I could reach the next rung.
• 35:26
  Because before, I mean, the rung was kind of put out of their
• 35:30
  hands. You know, we were only looking
• 35:31
  for men. We only want men.
• 35:32
  Now that women have an opportunity to display their
• 35:35
  skills. Like this is where you display
• 35:38
  your skills, but this isn't your home.
• 35:40
  This is just another step. And that's the way you got to
• 35:43
  look at it. This is another step in my
• 35:45
  journey to where I really want to end up.
• 35:47
  OK, I I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I see you.
• 35:50
  We're going to move from there. Let's get into Moto Gpi agree
• 35:53
  with you though on that. And and you know, the future
• 35:56
  looks bright. Speaking of future Raul
• 36:01
  Fernandez. Send me your money.
• 36:05
  Who's who's sending money? I think I was rooting for him
• 36:07
  all year. But I said this weekend, go
• 36:10
  young. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:14
  Well, you know, that's, that's a broad general statement there.
• 36:16
  So we'll give you that. No, I said names.
• 36:20
  I gave names. I said Acosta, Aldeguer,
• 36:24
  Fernandez. Yeah, and I think I agreed with
• 36:27
  that. Those are all names that I
• 36:29
  believe cuz, you know, and then they've been, you know, we're
• 36:32
  not, we're not just, you know, flipping a coin.
• 36:35
  We've been seeing their progression over the whole
• 36:38
  season. And as we said, you know, Bez
• 36:42
  had his three lap panel, his two lap penalty mark is out,
• 36:46
  Martinez out Pedro. I mean, Pedro Peco is
• 36:51
  struggling. He's you know, he's, he's the
• 36:55
  dude disguised as the dude playing the dude.
• 36:59
  It's tough for him right now. And I feel for him because, you
• 37:03
  know, as races at any level and I haven't, I haven't made it to
• 37:07
  Moto GP yet. So I, I know what the struggle
• 37:10
  is like. So it doesn't feel good at any
• 37:11
  level when you're, when you're a competitive person and you have
• 37:14
  to go through it. And we got and, and you know,
• 37:17
  Fernandez has been, was going through it.
• 37:20
  He struggled and, and, and, you know, Smitty and some of these
• 37:23
  guys said they shouldn't be, he shouldn't be a Moto GP.
• 37:26
  And, and so to see Fernandez take advantage of Bazecki's
• 37:33
  misfortunes, what are your thoughts on that?
• 37:37
  And you know, also just to how, how pissed is Acosta?
• 37:41
  Because here's another young dude that got a a Moto GP win
• 37:45
  before me. Well, I mean, first of all, what
• 37:51
  Acosta, if you keep putting out that energy, these are results
• 37:54
  you're going to get. He needs to be more like Pekko,
• 37:58
  maybe just relaxed and, you know, more thoughtful and the
• 38:05
  positive, you know, like his past results and how angry he
• 38:10
  shows is just that's the energy you're going to get.
• 38:14
  And I don't care. I mean, Raul definitely been
• 38:17
  putting in his work. He's definitely a good writer.
• 38:21
  If I don't see him on a podium again for a while, I mean, I'm
• 38:25
  still satisfied, you know, because just what Apprai's been
• 38:29
  doing this year, it just proves the show that they have the
• 38:32
  right writer also where they can still get the results.
• 38:36
  And it's good to see Track House and American Team finally get AW
• 38:39
  out there. But it's good to see Raul, you
• 38:44
  know, stay in front and had the potential to win both races and
• 38:50
  put hats off to the Zeki. That guy wrote his ass off.
• 38:54
  I mean, the fact that he could just show that he's better than
• 38:58
  everybody out there right now is is also a good thing to see.
• 39:04
  But to see Raul up there was was nice.
• 39:07
  No doubt what your thoughts, Lewis on how Raul did Dainese.
• 39:12
  You know it it it's it's it's a good look either way.
• 39:16
  Bez is on that as well. And who is who is number 2 now?
• 39:19
  Oh, Acosta. He's he's he's out.
• 39:21
  He's the other brand. The race port is good.
• 39:25
  Did you Fernandez, Ambazecki, all shining in their their shiny
• 39:30
  axial boots. Exactly.
• 39:36
  Rounded down to nothing because they wore through the soles.
• 39:39
  You know, it's tough, it's tough, tough life.
• 39:43
  What are your thoughts on and Fernandez this you know, I, I
• 39:49
  can only imagine like I was just saying like the struggle of
• 39:52
  anything in life and to to get something like this and it
• 39:56
  wasn't yeah, OK, Bez had the, you know, the penalties, but who
• 40:01
  knows, right? Cuz Raul was riding
• 40:03
  unbelievable. It's very surprising on one hand
• 40:07
  to see how he's doing and cuz it's one thing to to take the
• 40:10
  lead. That's another thing to finish
• 40:11
  and win. What are your thoughts?
• 40:15
  Yeah, no, I mean, he did a he did an incredible Sprint race.
• 40:18
  So it wasn't just a, you know, one off loop.
• 40:20
  Like he had a really good Sprint race, great result in the Sprint
• 40:23
  race coming in second. And then Bizecki having those
• 40:27
  penalties definitely, you know, helped him out.
• 40:29
  But he still had to, you know, circle the track 20 plus times
• 40:33
  at the front of the lead and and hold it there.
• 40:36
  And it's a long way that he's come because we spoke about it.
• 40:41
  You know, when he came to Moto GP, he came in with a, with a,
• 40:45
  you know, kind of a little S on his chest, like I'm the next big
• 40:47
  thing, you know, stand back, here comes Raul Fernandez, blah,
• 40:51
  blah, blah, blah. And then he just just, you know,
• 40:59
  struggled, couldn't finish the bike.
• 41:01
  A lot of crashes, you know, couple of injuries, this and
• 41:04
  that just couldn't really wrap himself around.
• 41:07
  It was out of a job, you know, KTM moved on.
• 41:11
  He was, he was able to pick, get picked up by track house, the
• 41:14
  American team with no Americans. Yeah, Anyway.
• 41:19
  We got a trophy though. We got a trophy.
• 41:23
  Maybe they'll let an American hold it at some point.
• 41:27
  And then, you know, this year he started out slow again this
• 41:30
  year, like it took him some time to get adapted to the Aprilia.
• 41:35
  But all this comes back to what we spoke about before.
• 41:38
  Is this the fact that Bazecki's been the leading or guiding
• 41:42
  light at Aprilia? Because if a Martine was the
• 41:45
  guiding light at Aprilia, how much of the knowledge do you
• 41:49
  think would trickle down to Bazecki and to the to the other
• 41:53
  teams? Is it because Bazecki's in that
• 41:56
  position and he's a little bit less self-conscious about who he
• 41:59
  is, that more information is trickling down the bites getting
• 42:04
  developed in a different way? The, you know, Bazecki's riding
• 42:07
  style is the typical Moto GP riding style.
• 42:10
  It's not anything unique. Bazecki's not dragging shoulder,
• 42:13
  you know, like Martine does. Like it's a little bit more of
• 42:16
  that common riding style, not the over extreme riding style.
• 42:21
  So they built the bike to help Bazecki, and it just happens to
• 42:25
  be that that same bike also helps Fernandez.
• 42:28
  Yeah. Well, overall I think it's
• 42:30
  helping Aprilia to build a more well balanced bike than try to
• 42:34
  build a bike specifically to try to make Martine look like a
• 42:36
  superhero. Yeah.
• 42:39
  No, I, I think that you're right.
• 42:41
  And, and, and we were talking about it earlier.
• 42:45
  It, it has to do it best. And, and I don't think that if,
• 42:48
  if Martine, Martine was healthy, it might have been a different
• 42:52
  look for a period this year overall, because there's no
• 42:55
  guarantee that Martine would have been able to to develop the
• 43:00
  bike the way it's been developed.
• 43:03
  And Bez has been on the record to give Valley credit for
• 43:06
  Valentina Rossi credit for coming into Aprilia and spending
• 43:11
  Evelyn to help them sort the bike out.
• 43:13
  So that's pretty impressive where you're the owner of a
• 43:17
  Ducati team and you know, you got this Friday that you'll
• 43:21
  sacrifice information for to help get better.
• 43:24
  So it might have been different. So I, I earlier has, I mean, I
• 43:29
  think the whole Aprilia squad and I will, I'll throw it to
• 43:31
  Troy to talk about this a little bit.
• 43:33
  I think the whole Aprilia squad is different because Martine
• 43:38
  isn't there and next year is going to be different because
• 43:43
  how, how, how can he take over that team again?
• 43:45
  I mean, he never had it because he crashed out, so how can he
• 43:48
  get it? Well, after what Raul has done
• 43:51
  and Bez has been doing. I mean, so like, you know, if
• 43:56
  you, if you look at his like NBA players, like Martinez, like the
• 44:00
  superstar that gets you, like, you know what you really want
• 44:04
  you, you want the, the the regular players that that won't
• 44:08
  complain and get you through and still will want to learn to
• 44:11
  continue. What I would expect out of
• 44:15
  Martine if he was a part of theirs for him and Bez doing
• 44:19
  exactly what Bez is doing. And for them to, you know, as a
• 44:23
  manufacturer, be top five or top ten and and let it trickle down
• 44:28
  faster opposed to like Lewis was saying, developing around
• 44:34
  Martine and him dragging shoulder and him making him look
• 44:37
  good and then then lose the direction of where he wants to
• 44:41
  go. So I think that's definitely the
• 44:44
  perfect example because he's not complaining.
• 44:46
  He's working hard and he's showing it.
• 44:50
  And I really think it has to do with also him being competitive
• 44:55
  and able to follow Mark for a lot of the time that he was out
• 45:00
  there with Mark. And I think it showed him a lot
• 45:03
  and what was needed. And since my team was around,
• 45:06
  he's the only one to really get feedback from and it's all
• 45:08
  positive. So I think he has a lot to do
• 45:11
  with everything and it's definitely a better fit.
• 45:15
  I think he's probably the number one writer, I would say.
• 45:19
  I, I, I I agree with that. Before we move on, has there
• 45:24
  been a, has there been a better 2 long lot penalties than what
• 45:29
  Bez did? The old man, he went fast in a
• 45:36
  long lap than any of us would go in a normal lap.
• 45:41
  I was actually worried that he was going to because, you know,
• 45:44
  if you just clip the line at any point between the entrance of
• 45:47
  the exit, you got to repeat the whole thing again.
• 45:50
  And I guess he practiced multiple times throughout the
• 45:52
  weekend doing this as fast as he could, as fast as he could.
• 45:55
  And I mean, the man, my man nailed it, man.
• 45:59
  Like the first long lap, he lost three positions and the second
• 46:03
  long lap he only lost three positions and still finishing
• 46:06
  third. I mean, you added approximately
• 46:10
  3 1/2 seconds to your overall lap time and you still finished
• 46:14
  third. Like that's, that's impressive,
• 46:16
  man. Yeah, and I wouldn't even say he
• 46:18
  lost three because he was in first and he fell back.
• 46:23
  Yeah, he fell back to 3rd and he fell back to six, so he lost 5.
• 46:27
  Five positions, yeah, so. Yeah.
• 46:32
  He's moving. What are your thoughts TJ on
• 46:34
  that man? Pretty impressive.
• 46:37
  Like I was saying like it's good to see Raul win, but like Pezaki
• 46:42
  was just showing that he was just better than everyone out
• 46:45
  there since we didn't have, you know, all the top writers minus
• 46:50
  Pekko when he was doing, but very impressive, you know, to
• 46:53
  see someone to to complete double lung like penalties, let
• 46:59
  alone just one and very cleanly. And I gave it to the the the
• 47:06
  coaches and all that stuff. So they claim that very well.
• 47:09
  The timing of it. I think I forget when you have
• 47:14
  to complete both of them, but at least the person I think you
• 47:16
  have to complete the is it 3? After three you can start, I
• 47:21
  thought. It was the five.
• 47:22
  They don't count the they don't count the first lap, but at the
• 47:26
  end of the first lap they'll send you the warning to your
• 47:28
  bike and then you have 5 laps to complete it.
• 47:31
  But once you start the first one, you can start the first one
• 47:35
  on the 5th lap, you just have to complete the second one before
• 47:38
  the 6th lap. Gotcha.
• 47:40
  So he's, they, they trust me, man, I, I, I, I paid real close
• 47:44
  attention like they planned this out to perfection.
• 47:47
  Get out front. You got 5 laps to try to get as
• 47:50
  big a lead as you can. Burn through as much tire as you
• 47:53
  have to see if you can get it up to close to 2 seconds, which he
• 47:55
  did. He got it close to like 2 second
• 47:57
  lead and then run the first long lap and then go out, run the lap
• 48:02
  and come and run the second long lap.
• 48:03
  And by that time the group should be pulled enough apart
• 48:06
  that you probably end up back in like 7th place and you can work
• 48:10
  your way back through. Yeah, that's perfect.
• 48:13
  Pretty, pretty, pretty impressive.
• 48:16
  I brought it up last week. Yamaha.
• 48:19
  I mean, Quattro Arrow got pulled, you know, Jack was up
• 48:23
  there. You know, I, I, I, I, you know,
• 48:27
  if there was a time to think about getting a tattoo, it might
• 48:30
  have crossed my mind. And quality.
• 48:32
  You can do the races. You know, when you're that fast
• 48:38
  for one lap or a couple of laps or five laps, that that has to
• 48:44
  be frustrating, right? Because it's like, yo, one lap I
• 48:48
  can, I'm better than every, every bike out here in Phillip
• 48:51
  Island on a track that we're the slowest.
• 48:54
  What are your thoughts on on Yamaha?
• 48:55
  I mean, you can't feel bad, but you can't necessarily feel good
• 48:59
  either, right? I mean, like, it's, it's like,
• 49:08
  you know, like all these polls all year long has shown
• 49:12
  absolutely nothing. Like, you know, I feel so bad.
• 49:18
  For some watches. I, I feel bad for Kwara like to
• 49:23
  to start off 1st and just to just watch riders go by you
• 49:27
  every turn where you have to be cautious of how you lean in.
• 49:29
  And it's just disappointing. Like one lap doesn't really it
• 49:36
  means a lot, but like if if you get pole, you have to like at
• 49:42
  least get top ten, top five at least.
• 49:45
  Like and for Jack Miller being at home, I mean, he put on a
• 49:51
  good show for the most part, but it's just that bike, you know,
• 49:57
  it's just didn't have anything. And and I don't know if it was
• 50:01
  the win, if they weren't ready for it.
• 50:04
  It's just it's just pretty disappointing just to see what
• 50:08
  they were actually able to show to get the poll but and then not
• 50:13
  show anything, absolutely anything for the race.
• 50:18
  So what are your thoughts? Look.
• 50:21
  Wasn't a good look. Yamaha, I know you still got
• 50:23
  your R6, so you ain't. I mean, you're not.
• 50:27
  I mean, we, we, I've mentioned this so many times, man, Yamaha
• 50:31
  is so good for that one flying lap.
• 50:34
  They just can't. You can't maintain that pace
• 50:38
  over race distance. It's impossible to do qualifiers
• 50:41
  every single lap. And the one thing that I will
• 50:45
  say, there was a couple of times coming down the straight that I
• 50:47
  thought that Yamaha was going to get swallowed up and it didn't
• 50:50
  get swallowed up. The motor was able to, you know,
• 50:52
  not get beaten. But again, you have to keep this
• 50:55
  incredible pace that you can't just do without.
• 50:58
  You can't go an entire race without making a single mistake.
• 51:02
  Even guys that look like they haven't made a single mistake,
• 51:04
  they made a ton of mistakes, but they able to cover them because,
• 51:08
  but with Yamaha, you have to raise at such a high level to
• 51:11
  get it to run that if you make that one mistake, you're in the
• 51:15
  Kitty litter. You know, you're in the crash
• 51:17
  truck, you, you know, in the ambulance, you know, you're
• 51:20
  anywhere except on the track finishing and and you can't keep
• 51:24
  going like that, man. You know, Yamaha's gotta, they
• 51:26
  got to get this V4 to work the right way and they got to put
• 51:30
  enough power where these guys don't have to ride out of their
• 51:33
  skin to try to finish a race in the top five, in the top three.
• 51:38
  I mean, you know, Quadrara can do it.
• 51:40
  You know, there's no doubt about it.
• 51:41
  The dude has talent. He just needs a bike that can do
• 51:45
  it lap after lap without him having to, you know, push
• 51:48
  himself beyond the limits of reason.
• 51:51
  You know, Jack Miller was doing great.
• 51:54
  One mistake. That's it.
• 51:56
  I know you know that that was a that was, I mean, I, I mean he
• 52:00
  got fourth in the Sprint. He showed up and looked good.
• 52:04
  But it is a tough struggle you and you feel for these rider.
• 52:08
  Is Alec Lorenz back? He's not.
• 52:13
  He's looking like he's he's kind of back.
• 52:16
  Sideshow Bob's not back. He's he's, he's in the
• 52:18
  neighborhood. He's circling the neighborhood.
• 52:22
  The, the, the, I mean, I would love to see him back at the top
• 52:26
  because I, I do, I like him as a rider.
• 52:27
  I think his riding style is so silky smooth and he's just like
• 52:30
  a, he's got like this old school type of riding style where his
• 52:33
  body's not super leaned over. He almost looked like he's in
• 52:36
  the wrong body position, but he makes it work.
• 52:39
  So I would like to see him back. But you know, he's kind of at
• 52:45
  that point in his career where, you know, I see him married, I
• 52:48
  see him with kids. I see this, I see that I see him
• 52:51
  suffering through a lot of injuries and it's taking longer
• 52:53
  for him to recover. And, you know, is that Father
• 52:56
  Time kind of like, you know, tapping on the door was like,
• 52:59
  look, man, you made your money. You know, you're getting close
• 53:02
  to the end of this contract. Ride this contract out to the
• 53:05
  end. And you know.
• 53:06
  Go home World super bike. World super bike.
• 53:08
  Let's go. He would at the honestly man, I
• 53:11
  think he would do really well World Super Bike because his
• 53:13
  riding style in World Super Bike I think would adapt really
• 53:17
  easily. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so
• 53:18
  too. I, I, it's, I mean, you know,
• 53:20
  he's not the first rider that's been plagued with injuries and
• 53:23
  have their their career suffer by it.
• 53:26
  But it's the worst. I mean, it's, it's one thing
• 53:28
  when you can lay it all out there and somebody's just better
• 53:30
  than you when your body doesn't work and you know, your mind is
• 53:35
  sharp. It like, like I feel for that
• 53:37
  dude because out of all these guys, like I said already in
• 53:40
  Moto 2, he was killing all these guys in Moto 2.
• 53:44
  Yep, Yep, he was, he was definitely schooling them all,
• 53:46
  man. He was, you know, put him to the
• 53:48
  task and just everything he's done, even in Moto GP, man,
• 53:52
  thinking about the way he beat people on the Suzuki.
• 53:56
  Yeah. You know, like.
• 53:57
  On a Honda. Yeah, like, not just beat him,
• 54:00
  but like, like, embarrassed him, you know, made the Suzuki take
• 54:04
  corners. And everybody else is like, yo,
• 54:06
  why are you over there? That bike shouldn't be there.
• 54:08
  And he can still put the bike in places where people would never
• 54:11
  expect. Like he could squeeze the bike
• 54:12
  on the inside of a of a turn in a space big enough for a credit
• 54:16
  card next to you. Look inside, show Bob's next to
• 54:18
  you. Like, yo, how'd you get in
• 54:19
  there, man? Like, you know, yeah.
• 54:23
  I mean, I hope. I hope he continues to get
• 54:26
  better, but again, man, I'm really worried about like, you
• 54:29
  know, him being the twilight his career and and you know, I don't
• 54:34
  want to see him get carted away from the sport.
• 54:37
  I'd rather him leave the sport with his head held high and he
• 54:39
  did a lot for the sport. He made it.
• 54:41
  You know, he made an impact. He left his name.
• 54:43
  He's got his wins and everything else.
• 54:46
  I don't think on Yamaha he's going to be able to do much
• 54:48
  because if Quadaro can't do it on a Yamaha, I don't think
• 54:51
  anybody can on a Yamaha. And even next year when top rat
• 54:54
  comes to Yamaha, it's going to be a rude awakening.
• 54:56
  You know, you're not on a great bike.
• 54:59
  And as great as a rider you are, this is the this is the Creme de
• 55:02
  la Creme. These are the top 1520 best
• 55:05
  riders in the world. So it's not like you're going to
• 55:07
  bring something that none of these guys have never seen.
• 55:10
  Right. Yeah, No, I agree there.
• 55:11
  I I think people lose sight of that when they see you in 14th
• 55:15
  and 15th place. I mean, I'm going to give props
• 55:19
  to somebody that none of us thought would even do shit this
• 55:21
  weekend. Paulus, Barbara I.
• 55:22
  Was just going to bring them up. I'm not going to bring them up
• 55:25
  literally dude, I was just playing the first wrap up and
• 55:27
  KTM because he got 10th and I believe 8th, 9th in the Sprint.
• 55:33
  So you know, and he was in Q2. I mean, this is, this isn't.
• 55:38
  You can't even say he's a part time writer because he's been
• 55:41
  mostly doing TV. Yeah, he's an announcer.
• 55:44
  You know and. Imagine Greg White going out and
• 55:46
  finishing in 8th. Place.
• 55:48
  In Super Bike maybe maybe Jason Bridmore, but Greg White pretty.
• 55:54
  Pretty impressive. What are your thoughts on on
• 55:56
  what he's done? You know, we've been, we've been
• 56:01
  loving the power of Ducati. But I mean if KTM can figure out
• 56:05
  the corner in an entire life it would be hard to beat.
• 56:10
  Yeah, I mean, it is pretty impressive to see what Paul can
• 56:14
  do for, you know, just jumping out here occasionally.
• 56:17
  You know, and the fact that, you know, the last time we've really
• 56:23
  seen him competitive is when like, he had a big accident and
• 56:27
  he he basically wasn't the same sense.
• 56:30
  And then, you know, you know, became a test rider.
• 56:34
  But it's good to see him come back and be competitive and just
• 56:40
  put on a show because, like some of these riders need a a weapon,
• 56:44
  you know, just looking for like, hey, Pole just passed me.
• 56:46
  Like, I need to get my shit together.
• 56:48
  But it's also good to see like he's out there trying to improve
• 56:53
  KTM and their package and and to show like, you know, certain
• 56:58
  things that can be done. But yeah, for being going to an
• 57:02
  announcer and then coming out and still being top ten as an
• 57:06
  accomplishment to himself and is good to see our veteran out
• 57:12
  there still doing doing it. Right.
• 57:15
  I will correct you. He's not a test writer.
• 57:17
  He's still a full time writer. He's just a filling guy.
• 57:22
  So he's still getting that full time money.
• 57:24
  OK. Cool, he's mostly testing and
• 57:32
  and he's waiting for somebody to get hurt and then he'll come in.
• 57:35
  So that's why you see him in and I and I think he I mean, listen,
• 57:39
  if you you know it, it's tricky because you know I, I like to
• 57:43
  race. So I can't sit here and say if
• 57:44
  you if you offer me the money in in part in part time, I'll
• 57:47
  probably still want to race, but it's not it's not bad if you can
• 57:50
  have it. But he he took I mean, I, I
• 57:52
  think he had to really like KTM enough to sit here and say, hey,
• 57:58
  I'm not going to try to go somewhere else.
• 58:00
  I'll fall back and let let let these young guys shine and if
• 58:03
  you need me, I'll come in because you know more more you
• 58:07
  know, other people are going to be thinking about themselves and
• 58:10
  want to ride and stuff like that.
• 58:11
  And maybe gone to a satellite or because he could have gone to
• 58:13
  the Ducati satellite teams back when when he left, one of them
• 58:17
  would have picked him up for sure.
• 58:19
  What are your thoughts, Louis on on what pole did and should
• 58:24
  these? I don't want to bring up Ben
• 58:25
  there but if he can do it like this, why?
• 58:32
  Why are not the full time riders as far as being on the bike all
• 58:35
  every every round not doing a better time and and not and
• 58:39
  struggling because he made it look easy?
• 58:42
  Yeah, no, in in one of the Spanish interviews that he did,
• 58:45
  you know, he said that he, he doesn't mind doing this.
• 58:49
  Like he actually enjoys doing this.
• 58:51
  You know, if the situation was right and, and there was a
• 58:54
  factory ride available to him, he would give it a lot of
• 58:57
  thought about coming back and being a full time rider because
• 58:59
  he still keeps himself in shape. He still exercises, he still
• 59:03
  trains on a regular basis. He does everything he needs to
• 59:05
  do. And obviously the guy's in
• 59:07
  shape. I mean, he stepped in, was able
• 59:09
  to finish 9th and 10th against the 22, you know, greatest
• 59:13
  riders right now in in the world.
• 59:16
  Yeah, he did better than his brother who just retired and
• 59:18
  when and and and alleged. Alicia's testing parts for
• 59:22
  Honda. Man he's lucky to just finish
• 59:24
  the race without the bike blowing up man.
• 59:26
  Like at least at least pole is on a legit race bike, you know,
• 59:31
  like. Like.
• 59:33
  And it's not A and it, and it's been doing well.
• 59:35
  Like the KTM has had marginal improvements throughout the
• 59:39
  year. I mean, one, one place that
• 59:40
  never has problems is power. You know, everybody says when it
• 59:43
  comes to power is the fastest bike in the straight line at any
• 59:46
  bike there is. And again, if they can tweak
• 59:49
  these couple of things that you know, don't make it as stable on
• 59:52
  the braking, don't make it as smooth in the turns, don't give
• 59:55
  it as much grip coming out of the corner and doesn't tear up
• 59:58
  as much tires. If they can fix 90% of the
• 1:00:01
  bikes, the other 10% is great. They're making it look easy.
• 1:00:07
  Though I mean, that's their job, you're supposed to make it look
• 1:00:10
  easy, but it's not. Do I want to see them back full
• 1:00:14
  time? Not really.
• 1:00:17
  Like I, you know, I think he's in the perfect.
• 1:00:20
  I get paid to ride if I'm not riding, I get paid to
• 1:00:24
  commentate. I get like, I get paid to do so
• 1:00:27
  many things. Why am I going to give up one
• 1:00:30
  check for this other check? I keep all the checks.
• 1:00:33
  There you go. No, exactly what are your
• 1:00:37
  thoughts on Honda? I mean, Lucas, Luca Marini, you
• 1:00:43
  know, I think he's close. I mean, I think if anybody's
• 1:00:45
  going to get a win on Honda, he might be the guy to do it first.
• 1:00:49
  I mean, I, I think, I don't know, I think, I think Mia has
• 1:00:53
  the, the Costa complex, even though Mia's older, they're just
• 1:00:58
  doing a little bit too much and, and, and it's biting them.
• 1:01:03
  And you know, and, and as you mentioned, Louis, it only takes
• 1:01:08
  one mistake to put you down. But Yuzarko crashing hard.
• 1:01:13
  He's crashing violently. Not even hard.
• 1:01:15
  He's crashing violently. It's, it's, it's, it's brutal to
• 1:01:22
  see, But Luca looks good. Mia looks good.
• 1:01:24
  Mia still crashing. But what are your thoughts on
• 1:01:28
  Honda and, and, and where they are?
• 1:01:30
  Because, you know, sometimes you got to go slower to go faster.
• 1:01:35
  I mean, yeah, Honda's obviously been slowly improving and it's
• 1:01:39
  been showing. I don't know what it what it is
• 1:01:42
  with Zarko. Like like he's such a good
• 1:01:45
  writer, but like he's the one that would will go find to see
• 1:01:51
  what's wrong while everyone goes watches and just come back and
• 1:01:54
  tell me, you know, like like he'll go hurt himself to figure
• 1:01:59
  out the problem. And I don't understand.
• 1:02:02
  And like mirror like it was given that he is like probably
• 1:02:07
  going to crash in the weekend. Gastroenteritis or whatever over
• 1:02:12
  crashing as much as he was crashing because if he wasn't
• 1:02:14
  crashing he was sick. But Luca has been looking very
• 1:02:19
  solid ever since he came from that eight hour and and he's
• 1:02:23
  basically the the focal point on what's what's what's going on
• 1:02:27
  with Honda. I mean, I feel like they been
• 1:02:32
  were, or like I heard they were tweaking the engine a little bit
• 1:02:35
  to get a little more power. So it seemed like the engines
• 1:02:37
  were blowing up and stuff like that.
• 1:02:40
  But overall that's like as a rider, like Luca has been the
• 1:02:45
  best. He's getting solid results.
• 1:02:49
  But yeah, they're, they're still figuring things out, you know?
• 1:02:54
  DA Yamaha. I didn't.
• 1:02:55
  I wasn't trying to blow up that engine, Maverick.
• 1:03:02
  You know, engines blow, man. Come on.
• 1:03:04
  What are your thoughts, Lewis? I mean, I think Honda is is the
• 1:03:11
  next bike to kind of step into that top echelon on a regular
• 1:03:16
  basis. Zarko started out the year
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  looking like he was going to be like the Honda Pilot to beat and
• 1:03:25
  everything else. And I don't know exactly what
• 1:03:27
  round it was, but man his suit sponsor must hate him right now
• 1:03:31
  because they are deep into the repair budget for fixing his
• 1:03:35
  suits at this point. Man because he is just torn up.
• 1:03:37
  At least I mean 2020 plus suits. Yeah, whatever round after he
• 1:03:45
  won. So he won.
• 1:03:46
  Then he followed the second place and and after the 2nd
• 1:03:49
  place. That's when he started crashing
• 1:03:51
  after that. Yeah, man.
• 1:03:52
  I mean, I don't know what's going on.
• 1:03:54
  I don't you know, I know that he made a complaint that he's not
• 1:03:57
  getting all the factory bits that he wanted, but I mean the
• 1:04:02
  factory is getting plenty bits back.
• 1:04:04
  He's just bringing it back in a box.
• 1:04:05
  Use all the bits for your bike because I'm crashing your shit
• 1:04:07
  every weekend multiple times like it's getting bad, man.
• 1:04:11
  It's not a you know, it's it's it's it's getting worse every
• 1:04:16
  single time he goes out instead of getting better.
• 1:04:20
  So I don't know what happened, you know, what the tweak is or
• 1:04:23
  something, but he's got a brush all this off and do a reset
• 1:04:27
  before he really hurts himself. Because I mean, eventually these
• 1:04:30
  crashes catch up to you. And you know, he's not a young,
• 1:04:33
  you know, he's not a young Thundercat.
• 1:04:35
  And it's going to start getting, you know, every morning he's
• 1:04:38
  waking up, I'm sure he's getting more and more sore and it's
• 1:04:40
  lasting longer and longer. And even, you know, you don't
• 1:04:43
  want to take too much Tylenol because then you end up with,
• 1:04:45
  you know, what is it that you get from Tylenol?
• 1:04:50
  You can't have babies, Yeah. You can't have babies.
• 1:04:54
  So, but yeah, man, it's, it's, it's getting wild, man.
• 1:04:58
  And, and Marini, we've said it a bunch of times, man, ever since
• 1:05:03
  he crashed at the endurance round, he came back a completely
• 1:05:07
  new rider, man. He healed up.
• 1:05:09
  And now instead of being this overly aggressive guy that's
• 1:05:12
  doing things and maybe pushing that little step, he's almost
• 1:05:15
  taken in a tempered approach. And that tempered approach is
• 1:05:18
  letting him slowly progress and see what he can do without again
• 1:05:22
  putting it in the Kitty litter every weekend.
• 1:05:25
  Who's boss? He's like I'm listening to the
• 1:05:28
  bike from now on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:29
  You know what? Instead of me telling the bike
• 1:05:30
  what to do, I'm going to, I'm going to listen to the bike.
• 1:05:33
  And if it tells me it can't do that, I won't do that.
• 1:05:36
  I'll do something else because it doesn't like that.
• 1:05:40
  But look at his results, man. Top ten, top ten, top ten, top
• 1:05:43
  ten, top ten. Like he's reeling them off now
• 1:05:46
  on a regular basis and he's really, the way it's going right
• 1:05:49
  now, he looks like he's going to be that guy that starts getting
• 1:05:52
  into that top four, top five on a regular basis.
• 1:05:57
  And going into next year, he might be the the Honda guy on
• 1:05:59
  the podium on a regular basis. He might be for sure.
• 1:06:02
  And you know his mistakes, he's still keeping the bike upright.
• 1:06:05
  He's just losing positions. I, you know, I mean they,
• 1:06:08
  they're not passing him. He's making a mistake and then
• 1:06:11
  and then they're getting by. So it's like, you know, you're
• 1:06:14
  going to have rounds where you make mistakes and you're going
• 1:06:16
  to have rounds when you don't make mistakes.
• 1:06:18
  So those rounds are going to come when, when he, when he get,
• 1:06:21
  he puts it all together. And again, that, that VR46
• 1:06:24
  Academy is so tight. You know, we're not telling any,
• 1:06:28
  telling those guys anything they don't already know.
• 1:06:31
  And, and they get, they're going to figure it out.
• 1:06:33
  So I'm looking forward to it. We got what, 3 rounds left for
• 1:06:36
  the end of the season? I don't know how many of them is
• 1:06:40
  going to have Martine or Marquez or Vinales.
• 1:06:43
  Marquez is out for the season. He might as well he might as.
• 1:06:47
  Well, according to Spanish media, he's out for the rest of
• 1:06:51
  the season. Like he's not coming back this
• 1:06:53
  year at all. Yeah, it doesn't.
• 1:06:54
  Why? Why come back?
• 1:06:55
  Yep. And Martine, he might, the last
• 1:07:01
  time I checked, he might make it back for the last round of the
• 1:07:05
  season, but at that point is just to maybe test the bike the
• 1:07:09
  the Monday after the the season ends.
• 1:07:13
  But even if he comes back, like what do you really expect
• 1:07:16
  Martina do when he comes back? He's either going to crash or
• 1:07:20
  he's not going to finish and he's not going to finish on the
• 1:07:22
  podium. You know, he just hasn't had the
• 1:07:24
  time on the bike and I don't know when he's going to have the
• 1:07:27
  time on the bike. He's he's starting next year way
• 1:07:30
  behind Bazecki. I mean, Bazecki just spent an
• 1:07:32
  entire year riding the bike, developing the, I mean, in my
• 1:07:35
  eyes, he's even behind Fernandez at this point.
• 1:07:38
  Fernandez has more laps on that bike and more knowledge of the
• 1:07:40
  bike that he does. And, and we have to keep in
• 1:07:42
  mind, Fernandez got the latest spec bike at Silverstone and he
• 1:07:47
  started struggling even more there.
• 1:07:49
  I know we we about to get out of here, but we haven't really
• 1:07:53
  mentioned Ducati outside of saying where did Antonio finish?
• 1:07:56
  That's one. Thing I want to say about
• 1:07:58
  Ducati. Ducati got the championship and
• 1:08:01
  I think they have the constructors as well.
• 1:08:05
  How important is it for Ducati to finish the season strong with
• 1:08:08
  three rounds left? I mean, we know Mark is not
• 1:08:12
  racing. I mean, I, you know, even if
• 1:08:15
  Petco won three the last three rounds, I don't know if it's
• 1:08:20
  going to change much there, like, but how important is for
• 1:08:23
  Ducati to be instead of, you know, one out one it, one it
• 1:08:27
  well, two bikes in the top 6:00. We we used to have in six bikes
• 1:08:32
  in the top 8. You know, you know, I'm not
• 1:08:35
  saying it's time to flip over tables yet, but like, we didn't,
• 1:08:40
  none of us, we didn't expect this from Ducati.
• 1:08:43
  Full of violent, no, the way things turned out, not.
• 1:08:46
  At all. I mean, that's the first time
• 1:08:49
  I've ever seen, you know, the factory.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah, I I've seen Manuel, like shake his head or be so
• 1:08:57
  disappointed or walk away. It was it was kind of
• 1:09:00
  interesting. I mean, he reacts to everything,
• 1:09:03
  especially like the years back when Pekka was winning and stuff
• 1:09:06
  like that. So I think it's very important
• 1:09:10
  for him to finish on a high note.
• 1:09:12
  More of the fact that if even if they have like a test rider or a
• 1:09:17
  replacement where they can still as a team be a top ten, you
• 1:09:22
  know, or or so not just not having their best riders at
• 1:09:28
  their best, like Pekko and then Mark being out and just fall
• 1:09:32
  apart. So I think it's very important
• 1:09:34
  for them to finish the this the rest of the season strong so.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, I, I hope so. I agree.
• 1:09:42
  I mean, it's, you know, Lewis, I mean the numbers that they add
• 1:09:45
  up. Doing some numbers right now.
• 1:09:49
  These numbers don't add up I So if this was let's let's rewind
• 1:09:55
  this. If this was 2024 and Pekko was
• 1:09:59
  where he's at right now, Pekka would be looking for a job
• 1:10:04
  because last year Enea Beth Senini lost his job, finished
• 1:10:08
  the championship with 386 points.
• 1:10:11
  And I did not agree with that. I probably was protesting. 4th
• 1:10:15
  place in the championship, 386 points.
• 1:10:20
  Pekka has three races or three events left.
• 1:10:24
  He's currently at 274 points, right?
• 1:10:28
  He's 102 points behind where Bastianini was last year when
• 1:10:33
  Bastianini lost his seat. I mean, he got them double World
• 1:10:38
  Championships. That's what's saving them.
• 1:10:39
  Come on. Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  In. Motorcycle racing in motorcycle
• 1:10:44
  racing is the same. What have you done for me
• 1:10:46
  lately? Well, like I hear you, I hear
• 1:10:49
  you there, but you know, he, he gets a pass because he he gave
• 1:10:52
  Ducati there all. Right, so he gets a pass this
• 1:10:55
  year. Yes, yes.
• 1:10:57
  Here's your pass. Next year these same results.
• 1:11:00
  His ass are looking for a job in 27.
• 1:11:02
  So no, I listen, man. I, I, I, I hope they work it
• 1:11:08
  out. You know, I've been alright.
• 1:11:09
  You know, I hope they work it out because I, I think, you
• 1:11:12
  know, if Petco goes somewhere else, he'll probably do well
• 1:11:17
  somewhere else. The question is where you going
• 1:11:20
  to go at the end of 2026 when you're going to start with a
• 1:11:23
  new? Honda.
• 1:11:25
  I mean, he could go to Honda, you know, he, no, he could.
• 1:11:27
  I mean, Lucas there, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:29
  You know. Everybody can't go to Honda.
• 1:11:32
  Everybody. Back to VR46 VR 46 Honda again.
• 1:11:35
  You know what I mean. So I I I hope they figure it
• 1:11:37
  out. For Ducati it's it's distressing
• 1:11:40
  because last year Ducati was first, second and fourth in the
• 1:11:43
  championship or first, second, third and 4th in the
• 1:11:45
  championship, all right. This year that ain't the case,
• 1:11:48
  man. And, and I don't know if Ducati
• 1:11:52
  is alarmed by it because they did win the championship.
• 1:11:55
  And at the end of the day, if you're the champion, you're the
• 1:11:57
  champion. But this year, their first,
• 1:11:59
  second and 4th again, they they're missing out on 3rd.
• 1:12:03
  You know, Aprelia has now snuck into that top three position and
• 1:12:07
  I don't see Bazecki giving that spot up.
• 1:12:10
  He's not going to catch Marquez. I mean, it's locked in.
• 1:12:12
  The two brothers have locked in first and second in the
• 1:12:15
  championship. No matter what happens from now
• 1:12:17
  to the end of the year, it's going to be a Marquez 1-2.
• 1:12:21
  But you know, how far beyond Pekko does Bazecki get at this
• 1:12:25
  point? Because Pekko is.
• 1:12:27
  I mean he is just fallen apartment.
• 1:12:29
  Yeah, yeah, he he it's it's bad. I mean, I'll TJ chime in before
• 1:12:34
  we we get out of here. But it no, it's bad.
• 1:12:36
  I mean, he's like he's it's almost I mean, I guess it's
• 1:12:40
  mental. But the crashes now, I mean like
• 1:12:43
  if you're in 14 place and you're if you're in last place and
• 1:12:45
  you're crashing, like what are you watching?
• 1:12:47
  What are you looking at? Looking at the trash man.
• 1:12:52
  You know, I mean, just the fact that he's in the back of the
• 1:12:55
  pack like that far back and then still crashing is more of like
• 1:13:00
  he's looking for a savior somewhere somehow.
• 1:13:04
  Or he's trying to like prove like, hey, I'm trying to show
• 1:13:06
  you all this is what's messed up and you're not listening.
• 1:13:10
  Like he's not showing. No class act, no effort in my
• 1:13:14
  eyes. I feel like he can.
• 1:13:17
  I don't know. I mean he's explaining what's
• 1:13:18
  going wrong. I feel like he has his glimpse
• 1:13:21
  here and there. But you got to have more
• 1:13:24
  dignity. When you say I'm a two time
• 1:13:26
  champion. Let me give him a all.
• 1:13:28
  Let me. I mean, you don't want to get
• 1:13:30
  hurt, but like, let me, I'll say try to go back to the Majello
• 1:13:33
  days, days when you actually kept up with mark a couple lats
• 1:13:36
  and and, you know, show that I'll.
• 1:13:39
  Say this in any sport, if your mind is not in it 100%, you're,
• 1:13:45
  you're going to be tense and a little bit of tense is not good
• 1:13:49
  on a rigid bike already. And they they that's that.
• 1:13:52
  So it it like once you're mentally, if you're riding
• 1:13:55
  stiff, forget about it. You know what I mean?
• 1:13:58
  Yeah, when when he went down, like it was kind of strange how
• 1:14:03
  the Ducati kind of just went down in the corner, like the way
• 1:14:07
  he lost it. So that's like some questions to
• 1:14:10
  ask, but it's just still like, you know, just knowing what he's
• 1:14:15
  capable of. Sometimes you don't get, you
• 1:14:19
  know, like when you get to that level, it's like you can't give
• 1:14:22
  any excuses at certain. Points of time, yeah, No, I feel
• 1:14:25
  that. I'll say this last thing, we'll
• 1:14:26
  leave it at this Chantra outperform PEKKO in both races.
• 1:14:33
  Crazy if Chantra beats you that double world title.
• 1:14:37
  Oh come on, don't do that. It's tarnished, man.
• 1:14:41
  Come on, come on, come on. I don't, don't do don't do that.
• 1:14:45
  Let's not listen. But it is, it is, it is pretty
• 1:14:48
  bad. And you know, and you know, we
• 1:14:52
  you know, we've seen other writers overcome it.
• 1:14:55
  We, we, we, we, we all yelled at Didjia.
• 1:14:58
  And Didjia figured it out. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:15:00
  We yelled at Raul. Raul is figuring it out, you
• 1:15:03
  know, and you know, for, for Bagnaya, I mean, he was crashing
• 1:15:07
  out on a 19 bike and a 18 bike and stuff like that, but he had
• 1:15:10
  a really good run. And, you know, there's obstacles
• 1:15:13
  in life, man, and this is one of them.
• 1:15:14
  And it's, it's tough to watch. I mean, obviously it really is.
• 1:15:18
  It's tough for him to go through it, but it's definitely tough to
• 1:15:21
  watch because I, I think there's this much we don't know and I
• 1:15:27
  don't know. I, I still put a lot of the
• 1:15:30
  blame on Ducati because they, they'll, they kind of sit
• 1:15:33
  letting them eat a lot of the crow.
• 1:15:36
  And and you know, for a guy that brought you 2 titles, a little
• 1:15:40
  bit more outspoken would be nice and a little less smiling when
• 1:15:43
  Mark win would be nice. They should they should
• 1:15:47
  definitely speak up more for Petco, possibly just to take the
• 1:15:50
  tension off of him, like to protect him a little bit.
• 1:15:53
  Like I agree with you on that. It's kind of like just because
• 1:15:56
  he's a two time champ, like he's not doing well.
• 1:16:01
  The spotlight is on him and Mark, you know, and they're
• 1:16:04
  battling because they're factory riders and it's hard to take in.
• 1:16:08
  We're all human and he's taking a lot.
• 1:16:11
  You know, there's no one else really that can interfere like
• 1:16:14
  Martinez out and you know there's no one else to take that
• 1:16:18
  action. It's it's they're not really
• 1:16:20
  protecting him to. Yeah, I thought, I thought some
• 1:16:23
  of some of us on the show is brutal.
• 1:16:25
  The commentators lazy. Yo they, they, it's like yo, he
• 1:16:29
  owe y'all money. They, they, they must be
• 1:16:32
  listening to me because they, they let him go.
• 1:16:35
  Oh. Dude.
• 1:16:37
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like watching his
• 1:16:40
  footage of him crashing and and they commentating about him like
• 1:16:44
  he's serious, like not before his race, you know what I mean?
• 1:16:47
  So like, you know. No, they, they, they, they
• 1:16:50
  definitely, you know, they, they giving it to him.
• 1:16:54
  It's not an easy one for him. And nobody's letting him off off
• 1:16:56
  the hook. So it's tough and you know, like
• 1:17:00
  again, we'll see what happens next year because this year is
• 1:17:02
  over. Anything else before we get out
• 1:17:04
  of here guys that you want to say?
• 1:17:08
  No, no, that's it. Back, back next weekend,
• 1:17:13
  another, you know, do we have any, any predictions is the last
• 1:17:18
  thing I would say. Aprilia.
• 1:17:21
  Aprilia Ducati. Pretty, pretty Ducati.
• 1:17:29
  Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'll say back to the young boys again.
• 1:17:34
  I want to see. I mean, I I see Bazeki back up
• 1:17:37
  there, but it was good to see you pray back-to-back again.
• 1:17:42
  And yeah, Ducati, it will be boring, but you know, Alex
• 1:17:48
  Marquez is probably going to be in the mix, so.
• 1:17:52
  I think it's going to be Aprilia, Ducati, KTMI think
• 1:18:03
  it'll be a good mix this this next race.
• 1:18:06
  No, I can see that. I, you know, I, we, we obviously
• 1:18:10
  we can always go on, but I, I, you know, the different man, the
• 1:18:12
  last few races at the rounds, the different manufacturers
• 1:18:17
  mixing it up and stuff like that.
• 1:18:19
  You know, for all, you know, I didn't have a problem with all
• 1:18:22
  Ducati was winning. They still look competitive to
• 1:18:25
  me, but it's nice when you see different colors in the top six
• 1:18:29
  spots and they're dicing it up. So I hope next round, next
• 1:18:33
  round, if it's the young boys and they're doing what they're
• 1:18:35
  doing as they should, it should be fun to watch as well because
• 1:18:39
  they're definitely taking chances.
• 1:18:42
  Sounds good man. Sounds good.
• 1:18:44
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• 1:18:47
  You got TJ with two wheels and coffee.
• 1:18:49
  You got the real Luis Ortega, the numbers guy.
• 1:18:52
  Peace. Peace.
• 1:18:54
  These.