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Monday Madness in Serie A - Inter Scudetto & Roma-Bologna - Ep. 223 · The Calcio Guys

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  H Scudetto clinching day today in the city. Uh, happy day for many
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  inter fans around the world. Not so happy day for our friend I drowning
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  here on the on the podcast couch you guys, Johnny, Adriano Nicholas,
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  We're joined by Carlo from ROMA six. We'll get into some Roma talk later,
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  but first Carla, how is it going? Oh well, thanks for
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  having me on you guys, so for joining up, Thank you for joining
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  Yeah, thanks, I appreciate that of course. So between the four of
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  us we have five representative sorry, four represented teams. Yeah, doing the
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  math correct, and none of them on the Scudetto this year. But you
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  know, we got to start with that inter talk twentieth Scudetto on paper,
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  nineteenth on the field, if you want to put it that way. Yes,
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  I'm gonna be that salt to UVA fan. But it comes in the
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  derby, and you know the floor is yours agree, comes in the derby.
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  I think it is what six straight losses down the derby was it purely
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  has has more losses than any other coach in the derby? Is if I
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  got the stack correct two to one win dominating fashion by inter a lot of
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  drama towards the end, red cards here and there. I mean, just
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  just how are you feeling? My man? Pissed off? Guys, That's
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  how I'm feeling. I'm paste off tonight. No, but to try to
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  keep it a bit professional for the podcast tonight, try not to break too
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  many tables. But yeah, listen, guys. Obviously upsetting, upsetting,
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  but at the end of the day, we knew the inevitable was gonna hop.
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  Uh, it's unfortunate in the fashion that it happened, But listen,
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  we can graduate our our inter friends because as much as we didn't want to
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  accept it, they were the best team, the best imlay and uh you
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  know they've they've played the best cultural throughout this season. So again, it's
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  gonna sting for a while, maybe forever in terms of you know, getting
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  this, for them to get this result today on the derby, Uh,
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  you know, just terrible, terrible feeling. You never you never want,
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  you never want to lose a Derbut nonetheless, you know it's for it's for
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  Scudetto, it's for you know, a second star, you know, on
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  on on the Jersey. So yeah, just overall upset. I mean,
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  I think you know, all the stats say, okay, this POI that
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  can't win the derby. Listen, guys, they've just had our number in
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  the derby. The players, UND I'm glad that we have carl on tonight.
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  We were you know, we wanted to maybe have them on last week,
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  didn't work out. We're about to have them on this week. But
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  I think it dates back even to you know, facing Roman and Europe the
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  week for me on you know, the the uh not interested, uninterested cultural,
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  not willing to fight, uh, you know, for objectives. You
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  know, obviously it's not the season that ultimately, not only for me one,
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  but you know for all of our teams really would have liked I mean
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  obviously a bit more of a you know, a competing factor with with with
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  first place would have been nice. But you know, it's it wasn't.
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  It wasn't to be. And I think, you know, for me on
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  after going on such a such a high seven games, you know, and
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  beating win streak all that, you know, kind of just you know,
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  drop the ball and you know what it's it's it's embarrassing to to to have
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  to witness this. But again, you know, turn the page. There's
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  still there's still you know, obviously games to be played. Unfortunately, the
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  school that was already out of reach, so that's not anything new. Uh,
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  you know, we we take it on from there. But you know,
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  I know if people are saying a lot about Kioi in you know,
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  in uh in today's game, especially changing up the formation a bit in terms
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  of player selection and having layout kind of as that nine false nine type of
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  type of player. You know, Moussa on the right, post each on
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  the left. Western Guys, this guy hasn't won a fucking derby again,
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  and god knows how long six six six derbies now six seven derbies. I
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  don't like, there's just something he had to throw something else at the wall.
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  Unfortunately, nothing has stuck. I think the last time something stuck is
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  is is obviously the school that winning year, the two to one, you
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  know, the the comeback there, but just not good enough, not good
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  enough. So you know, he decided to do something different. It didn't,
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  it didn't pan out. But again, from from almost minute one,
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  I think they had a good Again, there's what's me on having a good
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  ten minutes, guys, The fucking game is ninety minutes. We had a
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  good ten minutes. Maybe if we're lucky. It's embarrassing. Listen, I
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  can't say much more than that. Obviously, I'm pissed, and I think
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  me and fans have every right to be, you know, upset and pissed
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  off and and uh, you know, embarrassed. But listen, you we
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  go on. You know, it's it's cultural, still goes on, the
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  season. Still, there's still something left of the season, even though there's
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  nothing really to play for anymore. Just you know, obviously claiming second place
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  would be nice, but when you have performances like this and there being against
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  your arrivals, I mean, there's not much more we can say. We
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  kind of just have to eat it and and and take it. But listen,
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  let them party, let them celebrate. We all would if we were
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  all in that situation, you know, me one one two years ago and
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  we were on top of the moon. So you'very nine straight, not the
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  last season, rome, it's been a while, but you know, still
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  they would celebrate, and everybody would celebrate in their own rights. So uh,
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  you know, fans getting upset, I mean, we did it to
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  ourselves. If if we're honest, in this match, uh, we even
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  just needed a draw, you know, just a draw with a suffice for
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  them to wait another week to to with that scudetto. But you know it
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  wasn't to be. I think, you know, game plan from the beginning,
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  like I said, wasn't wasn't too par It's just upsetting and unfortunately,
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  even though you know, we had different talks up until this point about you
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  know, should should POI stay, SHAPIOI go, it seems to be now
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  pretty clear that he is not going to be the manager of Melan come next
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  season again. I think, you know, for all the ship that he
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  gets, I think there is certain things that he definitely we definitely you know,
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  thank him for, you know, bringing us out from a bad time,
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  like I've said, bringing us a scudetto, a trophy we hadn't touched
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  in ten years, you know, bringing us into Champions League, progressing out
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  of the group, getting to a semi final. H So you know,
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  there there's there is some good out of all this bad. But you know,
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  I'm just ready, I guess to turn the page. And I think
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  last week we spoke about it a lot, with certain teams just wanting this
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  season to end. You know, thenperies of the Worlds, you know,
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  uh, you know, even the Juventuses of the Worlds, you know,
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  even Latcho to an extent, and I think Milan kind of is in that
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  mode. Unfortunately to to try to wrap up this season, not much more
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  to play for getting bounced out by you know, Carlo and Johnny's Roma uh
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  deservingly uh you know, got to give them the credit there, because they
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  deserved that. They were hungry. Me On hasn't been hungry since, like
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  I said, coming off that that win streak, So I'm not gonna.
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  I'm not gonna. There's not much more for me to say in terms of
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  that. I think it was good to obviously score a goal, but listen,
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  well it wasn't enough. We needed. We needed an early wake up
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  in the second half. Me I needed that goal. It was it was
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  Inter's goal to have to ram and listen, There's there's really not much more
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  to say than that. So pissed off, but again, I'm optimistic for
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  the future. I want to see how things pan out, and I don't
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  want to see fans just turned their back to Milan because of something like this,
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  Like if you're if you're a true fan, you stick by your team.
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  So we'll we'll see how many Mealan fans last after this, after this
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  hurrah. But yeah, just yeah, not much again, not much more
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  for me to say, but congrats obviously to Inter, our inter friends deserved
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  especially in the lead. They really they really showed that they were focused on
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  winning the Sudetto, you know, after getting number nineteen for for Melan.
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  You know, the goal was to get that second star ourselves before our rivals
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  in there. It wasn't to be. It was Inter's and you know what,
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  yeah, they they did deserved it. Even though I can't stand the
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  Snakes, there's some of their players I still think fantastic. Obviously, certain
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  players I think maybe overachieved, but hey, you know that's part of the
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  that's part of the season. You know. Obviously we're being Canadian, you
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  know, seeing uh set Tejon Buchanan, even though hadn't didn't have a big
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  role in in his stint so far at Arienta, the first Canadian to to
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  touch silverware in Italy and being the Scudetto. So yeah, just how that's
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  how I saw it. Unfortunate, but we move on. Do you think
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  this is the final nail in the coffin for Poli. Do you think this
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  mean? I mean this cements it? Like obviously there was rumors as of
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  like, you know, like this entire season, do you think this is
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  like Okay, now that's it, that's all. It's over. And I
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  think my thing is is, like I know every fan base is like this,
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  me and fan base especially very reactionary, very actionary, like I think
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  all fans are. But you know, when you when you kind of sit
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  back down and you kind of realize it, it's like, listen, I
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  was only on the I was really on the fence, po and POI out.
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  I I was on the boat. You know what's let's take him on
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  another season. Let's see what next season brings. Try to go out with
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  a bit of a bit of dignity, a bit of you know, a
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  bit not on top, but maybe try to go for another run for the
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  school that too, maybe enforcements, uh, you know, on the pitch
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  in certain positions that we need and and and you know, he knows this
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  group, he knows this this club. Now you know it's it's it's not
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  not that we have to start fresh and and people are very reactionary, so
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  they just expect, oh yeah, let's get rid of po and let's bring
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  in whoever. You know, Conte is the big name, right that the
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  Thiago Mottas are the big name. But to be realistic, like you have
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  to put that realistic cap on sometimes, and I feel fans don't. Uh
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  so they're like, oh, yeah, it's funny, donny to get rid
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  of Poli and listen. And I'll say it again on the podcast. I've
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  said him many times. He's not a perfect manager, guys. I'm just
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  saying he's done decent with what he's had. These bars two length and heights
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  that we hadn't seen in a long time. Does that Does that cover up
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  all the all his faults? No, but it's something to consider. I
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  think. So, you know, does to put the nail on the coffin?
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  I think there's no there's no choice. I know de Marzo was was
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  reporting it, h for obviously reporting it all the all the bigger journalists Italy
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  reporting, uh you know him and new and partying ways come come June.
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  So I think it's now. It's a matter of a waiting game to see,
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  uh if that happens sooner or if they stick with that and it happens
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  in in come the summer. So yeah, Johnny, to answer your question,
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  I think, yes, it is the final coffin, even the final
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  nail on the coffin. But I think this was kind of already known before
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  before this game. This was kind of just more of a in my opinion,
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  more salt than the wound, if anything, you kind of go out
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  with, you know, not not being able to not being able to figure
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  are out intern to Derby for what the six seven times we've seen some of
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  them together at your Charles, right, I mean like it's it's it is
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  what it is really so overall, yes, again to answer your question there,
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  but I don't know, Uh, for me, I'm just I'm I'm
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  I'm just curious to see what direction they go in. You know, is
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  Conte really the answer is is he real? Is he a realistic option for
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  me? On like Thiago Mott? Is he really? Like again, I'm
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  gonna repeat myself, it's fine Danny and to get rid of somebody, but
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  is the grass green here on the other side, is it a realistic option?
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  Like is this gonna We're gonna have to start fresh? So it sucks
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  that we kind of have to go through that after being champions two seasons ago,
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  so you know it is what it is. But you know, I
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  I see even aply interested in POI, So I think he will get if
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  he does leave me on which he most probably will. If not one hundred
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  percent will, I think he'll. I think you'll definitely still get another job
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  somewhere else, if it be Anoppi or somewhere else, I don't know,
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  but yeah, just curious to see how how the summer in folds, because
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  I know there's gonna be a lot a lot of a lot of different a
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  lot of change and a lot of movement, and you know, just curious
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  to see how that pans out. And I hope it's for the best interest
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  of the club. Carlo. You've been sitting around the past a couple of
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  minutes, you know, hearing about the DRAMs An. But you know,
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  I'm all good, all good. I just I just want to ask more
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  from an outside perspective. You know, you seeing this inter team first,
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  was it a team you expected to win the Scudetto this year? Obviously?
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  I think everyone had them in the Saze favorites. Do you think did you
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  expect them to win the Scudetto and for use it as surprise in this fact
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  May Yeah, with this with such a big lead five match jays left,
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  they win in April and all that. Uh for me, no, to
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  be honest with you, I think them reaching Champions League final season prior just
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  just having a solid team. I just I looked at the other teams like
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  Milan, like you've obviously my team Roma not only losing, but LETTI like,
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  I just I just thought, I don't know, I was like,
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  if if anyone's gonna take the title, to me inted, I feel like
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  they have the least amount of problems out of all of us. But it's
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  just crazy, just to kind of piggyback on what we said, it's like
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  crazy at the standard of the Melon teams, Like you get second in the
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  league and you sack sack a manager, right, I mean that's just that's
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  just the DNA, Like, yeah, it's just the DNA of the Melon
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  clubs, right. We all you guys are chasing, you know, those
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  stars on your crest. Where as a Roma fan, you know, like
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  we're still waiting for scudetto here we are twenty three, twenty three years later,
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  you know, so the standard is very high and we still sack our
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  managers. But yeah, I don't know. Just looking at into this team,
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  man like every like I'm Lookingtinez had twenty three goalsam had twelve goals,
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  Hakan had an amazing season, Matteo Darmion had an amazing season, Demonico had
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  an amazing season. Chadby had an amazing season. Until one moment, I
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  won't touch on it. Uh, Bostonia was amazing. You know, they
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  just overall collectively like they were the top. They were the top team.
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  I'm not I'm not that surprised, to be honest with you. I thought
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  they were the deepest team. I thought they had the most talent, And
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  I mean I don't think I expected Martinez to have twenty three goals this season.
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  I'll be very honest with you. I was. I wasn't very high
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  on him, but I mean, hey, when that happens, I don't
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  see how you don't win it like that. They're just their style of play
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  is the best. They always look composed, even even in Europe. I
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  know they crashed that Champions League, but they're they're to me easily the best
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  Italian team right now. Yeah, Gianna, are you gonna say something?
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  Oh no, I thought you were done. That's why I was about to
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  start, just to have a constant No. I just I just I just
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  like I'm not I'm not surprised, that's all. Like I just think,
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  you know, Milan Milon is interesting, man. I think losing Maldini up
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  in there, up in the office, I think that to me, that's
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  when Milan I was like, didn't look the same to me when they lost
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  Maldini up there, and uh and maybe Pioli's escapegal maybe not, you know,
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  but ultimately this ending here at Milan is is, like you said,
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  more salt than the wounds. It's like you lose to Roma in the Europa
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  League and then you hand into the title and the derby like that's you know,
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  if there even was a sliver of hope of him, you know,
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  staying. I think that's that's that's gone. I like the point that you
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  brought up about Maldini. I'm mean, you touch about that quickly before I
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  get on to enter. I feel like like right before the Scueto win,
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  you know, like with the movement the Leao Rabbitch, you know, eventually
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  going after guys like the Cat which didn't really work out for at Melon but
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  I think maybe it's more about like how he was utilized. But you definitely
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  saw there was like a youth movement, you know, with a team like
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  he was trying to go for younger talent, trying to find the gems to
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  help establish a core for the future. And eventually it did help them lead
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  to a squidetto They had a fantastic year to win it. And there's obviously
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  a trend you with the teams that win, or the teams are usually the
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  healthiest or on fire or just clicking on all cylinders, you know, like
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  Monopoly. Last year, everything was just working well for them. Teams were
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  going through injuries and Napoly was just in a solid run this year, like
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  this year, inter just everybody is just playing on a different level when which
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  is you know, props to them, But I think maybe that Maldini factor
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  might need to be considered. But given what's happened, you know, you're
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  not you can't dwell on it too much because he's not gonna come back anytime
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  soon, so you need to like I know you said it perfectly, Puoli
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  is gonna be the scapego but it might be more than just him. There
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  might be some other things to be addressed, but it's hard to tell.
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  We're not in the offices so we can really tell. Back to Inter winning
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  the school tetto. I think the one person I'm happy about is in Zaggi.
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  You know, like the guys consistently brought trophies to Enter as he's been
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  a manager there every year, whether it's a Cope Italia or Super Copa,
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  uh you know, but managing up to a Champions League final, I think
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  the guy finally gets his flowers and that he deserves and uh great, great
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  for him to finally get that league title. And it's just so interesting because
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  you see a manager like Pioli winning his first ever school detto, then you
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  see manager like Spalletti winning his first ever school detto after years both them,
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  years of trying splenty even worse, and then in Zagi now getting this first
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  school deetto. So it's it's nice to see that it's a fresh crop of
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  managers winning these titles, which is also really good in the long run.
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  It just shows that pretty much the Italian managerial chorus fan past, which could
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  be a great sign for the future if these guys ever get management positions or
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  some decisive positions in the FIGC. Maybe they might provide a newer mentality to
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  the Dinostaur mentality that the organization has. But that's that's that's for the down
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  the line. I'm thinking way to ahead here. But all in all,
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  it sucks when you're a Milanista seeing seeing your rival team clinch the championship in
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  the derby. It hurts because it's like because I just try to picture myself
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  seeing a rival team beat my team for the championship like Roma. No more,
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  like if I had to watch the Haves the Bruins, and the himself
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  would just be punching himself. Or if you've had to clinch to school that
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  do beat Anopoly or something or lots of Actually, you know, it's funny.
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  I don't really have that much isges or lot of I just feel bad
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  for them. I'm just there like you guys, like you're celebrating that Romal
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  loss and like really like really like you should worry about your club right now.
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  But yeah, now, speaking of Roma, yes, I think that
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  we need to adjust the issue that ROMA hasn't been doing much in terms of
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  that run since since the late two thousands. Obviously during the last peak of
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  the Ta Tierra, you know, like like really making that push, but
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  you're also going against one of the strongest inter squads ever. Do you think
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  now that the Rossi got his extension, do you think that's the right choice
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  going forward? Do you believe that this little sample size that we got from
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  him is like a real deal thing or do you think maybe it's like a
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  honeymoon period and and it's just like, you know, we got to take
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  it with a grain of salt type of thing. Carlo, what do you
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  what do you do you? What are your thoughts on that? No?
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  I do. I do think it's the right move. It's kind of goes
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  back to the thing. It's like, Okay, if you don't get the
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  ros who do you get, Like who's really out there? Realistically for Romo?
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  Right, like realistic you know you can say all these managers names.
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  First of all, we don't have money. Secondly, uh, Secondly,
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  Edosie like the thing that's so great about him, he he's a Romanista.
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  Like if he wasn't a coach or player, he said he'd be an ultra
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  you know, like he understands what the players are feeling. He understands these
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  big moments like that be you know, he gets the players, he knows
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  the city, he knows what people's mentality mentalities are. So I think he's
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  doing a great job. You know, obviously we lost today three one to
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  Bologna and credit to Bologna. I mean, an amazing season, honestly,
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  And you know, is this the end of the honeymoons? You know,
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  time with de ROSSI I don't know. I think, you know, playing
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  in two tournaments right now, I think it was evident that Roma we're flat
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  today. I'm not surprised by that, to be honest, They're not the
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  deepest team. So I think it was I think it was. I think
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  it was a really good choice, and a part of me wonders what would
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  happen if he started the season with us, right, so, giving him
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  an actual full season and getting some players maybe that he would actually preferred more.
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  Right, So, I still think it's it's early, but I think
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  they did the right choice. Now, you know, I really want to
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  see that AlSi with like a full season under his belt, and uh,
• 22:11
  and I think I think we can we can do much better. The style
• 22:15
  of play is great. I still think we're decently defensive at times when we
• 22:19
  need to be but you know, playing less afraid. Like you look at
• 22:22
  a guy like Pelagini, he's waking up, He's got Lucacu kind of back
• 22:27
  in his groove a little bit, Pedez is playing well. So yeah,
• 22:33
  I ultimately feel like it'd be hard for me to say no, that wasn't
• 22:37
  a good decision. I don't know if anyone disagrees with me, but I
• 22:40
  think that all See is the perfect manager for Roma right now. Yeah,
• 22:45
  definitely, I definitely agree. I know Johnny. I think Johnny agrees with
• 22:48
  it. It's one of these things where like that was was even playing with
• 22:55
  some of these some of the players that he's managing, you know, just
• 22:57
  a couple of seasons ago, right, so like forget like you know,
• 23:02
  he knows these players, he knows the city, he's he's you know,
• 23:04
  roaming through and through. So it's listen, I I I I like to
• 23:10
  I like to move. We were discussing it, I think a couple of
• 23:12
  weeks ago. We're like wondering, like, I wonder, you know,
• 23:15
  what happens for next year? Do they do they do they you know,
• 23:18
  go on and and say, oh, yeah, you know what we're going
• 23:22
  put in our eggs in the ross basket, and and and going to go
• 23:25
  forward, and it seems to be that way. So and and I agree
• 23:27
  with you, Carlo, like you can kind of get a bit more of
• 23:30
  a gauge of being able to judge that as a manager. He's still a
• 23:34
  very young manager. Then have a good start to his managerial career, you
• 23:41
  know, the small ballstont. Obviously, he was part of the Euro squad,
• 23:44
  which got his feet wedge just being around you know, uh, this
• 23:48
  this type of environment on on on a coaching slash staff level. Uh and
• 23:52
  won a trophy. So it was obviously a high But yeah, listen,
• 23:56
  I think it's only fair to kind of judge him after a season. I
• 24:00
  think it's it's you know, for for any manager really. You know,
• 24:06
  we're talking about Puoli earlier, but you know, I think we're somewhere I
• 24:11
  don't remember the exact stat but you know, kind of almost on par from
• 24:14
  our school that the little winning season in terms of points. You know,
• 24:17
  like you said, Carl, you know we're gonna we could potentially reach second
• 24:19
  place, third place, whatever it is. And we're talking about you know,
• 24:22
  sacking the manager, the you know, the the expectations so much higher
• 24:26
  and everything like that. So the margin FORERR is very small. And a
• 24:30
  lot of these a lot of these clubs, I think that us see I
• 24:33
  want to see him go through some adversity as well. I think it's it's
• 24:37
  good to see what happens if he goes through some adversity. I mean,
• 24:41
  today is it is where it is. I think it was a huge game
• 24:45
  today, don't get me wrong like that. You know, we're lucky that
• 24:48
  we got that fifth part officially in uh for for Champions League next season because
• 24:52
  this roma Bologna, you know, battle I think would have went the distance,
• 24:59
  you know, in terms of only still four spots. So but you
• 25:03
  know, he's taken over. I think his only loss is what today,
• 25:07
  the intermatch into today and we lost Brighton at Brighton we we already beat them
• 25:14
  for nothing before that, so exactly. But instead, yeah, he's had
• 25:18
  two losses, I think two or three losses since he's he's been in charge.
• 25:21
  So Nick had the startup, what was it Nick twelve twelve wins,
• 25:25
  he wins, three jugs, three losses in all competitions, in all competitions,
• 25:30
  So there you go. I say, numbers don't lie there you go
• 25:34
  exactly, And how do you think he did, Like, you know,
• 25:37
  he's taking over from Mourinho, one of the most known coaches, most decorated
• 25:41
  coaches. He took you know, Roman, he brought them the Conference League
• 25:45
  trophy. How do you think he did kind of taking over from that?
• 25:48
  I guess persona where even in terms of media, there was so much focus
• 25:53
  on Mourinho and now it's okay, they're still focused on nder Roussi's he's a
• 25:57
  World Cup winner as a player, but it's different, right, So do
• 26:00
  you think he had any of that pressure? I think it was a really
• 26:04
  smart chess move by Violma to get if that's what you're gonna replace Marinho with,
• 26:10
  you're going to replace them with, you know, somebody that is considered
• 26:12
  one of the gods over there. So you know, I don't know if
• 26:18
  it's about, you know, replicating Mourinho's energy, because Marinho the special one
• 26:22
  for a reason, right, He's he's such a he's such a force,
• 26:26
  right, like as a manager. But I think that also just goes in
• 26:30
  goes in there as at omanista. Right, It's like a whole different thing.
• 26:33
  It's like I'm one of you, like I'm legit, literally one of
• 26:36
  you. I'm not here to be a manager, coach you for a couple
• 26:38
  of years and then go somewhere else, Like I'm here to stay as long
• 26:41
  as you need me. And I think that's that's the great thing apart about
• 26:45
  it. Right, And you know, listen, there's gonna be bad times.
• 26:48
  You're at Oma, right, look at our schedule coming up. It's
• 26:52
  a tough road. We havenapully. Next we still got to play then as
• 26:55
  a game thirty minutes or whatever they do. Then we have Leverkusen uvent this
• 26:59
  Lever who's in Atalanta. So, hey, you want to see the rosis,
• 27:03
  you know, the man for the job. I think this is the
• 27:07
  this is the run that that that either proves it or you know, the
• 27:11
  doubters come out, the Mourinho fans come out attack you. But uh but
• 27:18
  ultimately, listen, thank god, there's five spots. What a great what
• 27:22
  a great time. But hey, Roma still have to protect that fifth spot
• 27:26
  because Atalanta is right behind them and and they know that. But it's gonna
• 27:32
  be very very tough, very very tough, because I mean, if you're
• 27:36
  in you're in the Europa League. Mourinho brought you last time to the final.
• 27:40
  If the Rossi does that and potentially wins it, I mean you got
• 27:42
  to go through Leverkus and of course, but if he does that, then
• 27:48
  that that is maybe the best start for a coach ever, like in Roma's
• 27:53
  history, for sure, do you like so I know we talked about like
• 27:59
  how like you were mentioned years before, like for sure under dead Ossie just
• 28:03
  looks like a new player. But one player that has come back to being
• 28:07
  smarter or being in a stronger form is Mancini. How how big has he
• 28:12
  been for it Ama since de Ossi came in, like like a boy,
• 28:17
  like how phenomenal, Like it's it's it's it's giving confidence, it's giving you
• 28:22
  know, like hope for uh, you know, like hope not saying he
• 28:26
  will be, but hope for uh decent CB coming into the Euros for Italy.
• 28:30
  You know, what are your thoughts on Mancini under that? Assi,
• 28:34
  Well, I think I think I think today's game actually I think two center
• 28:38
  backs should be for Italy. I think Machini and Calafioti. I think they
• 28:41
  should be definitely called up. They are in the form of their lives right
• 28:45
  now, and Mancini specifically, I think you you need to call him for
• 28:48
  the Euro. I mean, I don't. I don't know what's different,
• 28:52
  you know. I think I think he's calmed down a little bit on the
• 28:56
  yellows. Like I remember there was a time where he just kept getting yellow
• 28:57
  cards and he did not need to. And it's kind of funny. I
• 29:00
  think in today's game he was telling everyone to calm down, and I'm like,
• 29:03
  oh, I've never seen that before from him. You know, obviously
• 29:07
  an emotional a couple of days for him. I think he lost his brother
• 29:10
  in law. So he's playing. He's playing with with a purpose, he's
• 29:12
  playing with passion, but just he's scoring off headers like classic Manta, which
• 29:19
  is for three, yeah, three for three yeah. I mean, I
• 29:23
  mean he's definitely he's definitely stepping up. And like to me, he's just
• 29:26
  as much of a captain as Pelogrini, right, Like I remember when Marinho
• 29:30
  was there, he would talk to the captains and you'd always mention Pellegrini and
• 29:34
  Mancini. You know, Mancini gives off that aura that he was Roman born
• 29:38
  and it's not. You know, I think that's that's amazing, and sometimes
• 29:41
  I forget that to be honest with you. So yeah, I mean MAINI
• 29:45
  Mancini is amazing. He's the rock. He's the anchor right now, through
• 29:49
  his faults, through his through his great times, he's he plays for the
• 29:53
  shirt. So that's that's what you want. You hate him if he's not
• 29:56
  on your team, you love him if he's on. Actual that's perfectly said.
• 30:00
  As far as Italy is concerned, I think you. I think I
• 30:03
  think this Italy team needs a little bit of that, that wildness that one
• 30:07
  player to kind of have a character. I just feel like everyone's just,
• 30:12
  I don't know, kind of pretty pretty boy, pretty boy a little bit.
• 30:15
  You need a little bit somebody to mud it up, like a Gattuso
• 30:18
  kind of just you know, create some drama, create some chaos, you
• 30:22
  know, maybe score a goal, right like change the game. I think
• 30:26
  you need that. I definitely think you need that, especially creatively. You
• 30:30
  think you think back two thousand and six, last tournament in Germany, who
• 30:33
  was that number twenty three doing that stuff? Marco matt Tatzi and he scored
• 30:37
  a goal in the final, and I know he had a read at one
• 30:38
  point in the tournament. I think it was what was the game against Australia.
• 30:42
  You know, obviously you don't want to mention me to get that if
• 30:45
  you know, if you know, if he's playing in Germany, but uh
• 30:48
  yeah, sometimes disturbed controlled case, yeah, control demolition. And that's why
• 30:55
  I think he's so successful right now. He's controlling that chaos a little bit
• 30:59
  more, you know, and he understands that he can make an impact being
• 31:03
  himself, but he doesn't have to get carried away with it and hurt his
• 31:06
  team with the red you know. So that's that's the key, that's the
• 31:08
  key, and I think I just think Roma also like going deep in these
• 31:11
  European competition has also helped him with Mourinho's guidance to there, you know,
• 31:17
  just help them through the motions of big important games and stuff like that.
• 31:19
  So to me, I know him, I know him biased, but I
• 31:22
  don't see how you don't how you don't play them for that euro squad.
• 31:26
  Yeah, I think I think it's it's still up to be said. I
• 31:30
  think it's still up in the air. Like I'm not the biggest fan of
• 31:34
  kind of like a Mancini or even in a charity, but hey, listen,
• 31:37
  if they're if they're available, if they're doing good, great things and
• 31:41
  they're providing and it's for me, it's it's it's really not being not hurting
• 31:45
  the team because you know, like you said, Carl, and we all
• 31:48
  know just by watching this this league. You know, week in week out,
• 31:52
  Mancini had head always looking for something problem. People say they are not
• 31:59
  this sucking for that ship. But I think I mention easily, you know,
• 32:02
  just just as guilty in my opinion. But yeah, no, what
• 32:07
  I have, what I what I do totally agree with is what we were
• 32:10
  saying, Like we were just saying the controlled chaos, not picking up these
• 32:15
  as many yellows, these like stupid reds that he would pick up, like
• 32:20
  just hurting the team. He was more of a liability than an asset,
• 32:22
  Like we need assets on our team. We don't need liabilities. We have
• 32:25
  too. We we're done, we're done on that phase, you know,
• 32:29
  for Italy, but and even for you as a fan of Roma, like
• 32:31
  you don't want that, you know, hurting your team. But like I
• 32:36
  said earlier, I'm glad we have you on. I know it's a bit
• 32:37
  maybe a week past, but obviously our teams went at it in europe League
• 32:45
  and obviously, you know, congrats to you guys for advancing. I think,
• 32:47
  like I said on the show, and I'll say it now again because
• 32:51
  you're here, definitely merited. Roma definitely the hungrier team over especially in the
• 32:55
  first leg. I think they set the tone early and even in the second.
• 33:00
  Like I was, I wasn't able to watch as much of it.
• 33:04
  I caught half of it, maybe a bit more than the highlights. But
• 33:07
  deserved, I think is the overall word hungrier, the greene. I think
• 33:10
  it was all there for for Roma. What did you make of of the
• 33:14
  matchup and what is what is your expectation facing a you know, a red
• 33:21
  hot Bira lever cusin Champions of Germany just on a tear, Just your overall
• 33:28
  thoughts of the Melon matchup in europe League and progressing to face Biolric the Melon
• 33:34
  matchup, I actually wasn't thrilled to get it because I feel like it Roma
• 33:37
  does better against teams outside of Italy and Europe for some reason, when we
• 33:40
  played Italian teams, we turned into the little brother, right, we turned
• 33:44
  into that little little brother. And obviously you know you have the Melon teams,
• 33:47
  Juventus whatever, But you know, I think that first game with that
• 33:52
  early goal from Roma, I think that completely changed my mind. I was
• 33:57
  like, oh, we're not afraid, you know, like we're we feel
• 34:00
  like we're the you're Europa, you know, experts here, you know,
• 34:02
  and they were and they were on the road right so exactly like okay,
• 34:07
  cool. And then the second game I watched, I really felt, oh,
• 34:10
  Romo Romar are like controlling this game right now, like Roma are not.
• 34:15
  And I don't know, maybe it was Milan two. Milan's going through
• 34:16
  stuff, maybe behind the scenes with Pioli. I don't know what's going on.
• 34:20
  So they didn't look as as strong as I thought they could have or
• 34:23
  have in the past, and Roma took it to them and credit. You
• 34:28
  know, I feel like Europa Europa Roma is different from SETI a Roma.
• 34:32
  I don't know if you know that even makes sense, but so far that
• 34:37
  that's just how they look and they feel like they're gonna win the tournament probably,
• 34:43
  you know that being said, like you said, Leverkuzen or there.
• 34:45
  They haven't lost the match now. It would be something if Romo were the
• 34:50
  team to stop that unbeaten streak and then lose to Marseille in the final,
• 34:57
  but yeah, man, Like, you know, the biggest thing that strikes
• 35:00
  me with leverri Cusin is like they score so many goals off their I think
• 35:02
  their wing backs, like I think, ye double digits and you know you
• 35:09
  saw Chelick on that on that side or you know, that's our weakness.
• 35:14
  We're not We're not the fastest team and we have problems, you know,
• 35:17
  with guarding the wings. You know, even cala Fiori today was came down
• 35:23
  that side and got the ball and crossed it in and we just couldn't really
• 35:28
  stop that from happening. So yeah, Roma's gotta be very aware that that
• 35:31
  being said, El Shadau, we played amazing versus Milan. Definitely had tired
• 35:36
  legs today, but you know you need guys like that with some experience,
• 35:40
  you know, putting in those crazy shifts like that, especially versus Lebricus.
• 35:45
  And so that all being said, SETI, I worries me too, because
• 35:49
  you're gonna be giving your all in these matches too, right, So again
• 35:54
  it's it's it's kind of like last year. You know, I think I
• 35:57
  was on the podcast last year and we were trying to you guys are asking
• 36:00
  me like how how does Roma balance two tournaments and try to get you know,
• 36:05
  top four finish or top five in this case and Europa League, and
• 36:09
  I guess just stay healthy because if a guy like the Bottle goes down again,
• 36:14
  then you're not gonna win anything. So I know I went off on
• 36:16
  a tangent, but that's just kind of my perspective on on those things.
• 36:22
  But we'll see, we'll see. I'm hopeful. But also you know,
• 36:27
  Leverricus is undefeated for a reason. So Johnny you I I you kind of
• 36:32
  bounce off on on here, but league scored, No I get, I
• 36:42
  get my mom calling me asking me to ask my brother something, and I
• 36:45
  it's a mess. Anyway, it's the podcast, come on every time.
• 36:49
  I have to record every time after recording from the Negroes one. But Johnny,
• 36:54
  you're your expectations for for for biol every coach, and I'll curl something
• 37:00
  up pretty well, but anything Todd bring them on. Uh, they're one
• 37:05
  of the stronger teams in Europe right now. They're on fire type of thing.
• 37:07
  They're they're they're feeling confident in themselves. Uh, just win in the
• 37:13
  league title after like how many years. I can't actually was either ever I
• 37:19
  think the first one. Yeah, their first one. Yeah, now that
• 37:22
  I now that I was thinking about it, it's bring them on. They're
• 37:25
  they're feeling it, they're it's but a great way to kind of like establish
• 37:31
  yourself with confidence by being the best German team, especially especially again, especially
• 37:37
  after that reaction that the assistant coaches had when they they saw that Roma used
• 37:43
  that video, use that video clip in the dressing room, you know,
• 37:45
  like motivation for the team. It's like they think of you as a joke.
• 37:49
  Well we'll show them that you're not a joke. You know. I
• 37:52
  think like today's game is not reflective of the Roman that we're gonna see the
• 37:54
  Europa League. It, So that was that was more of the B squad.
• 37:58
  That's more Abraham trying to get his legs in again, and you know,
• 38:00
  like it's it's it's a bit of a it's a bit of a rotational
• 38:05
  thing. So uh, it does kind of suck that you have to like
• 38:09
  get like all these like games in in such a short span, but every
• 38:13
  team goes through it. Everything that makes the championship run and the European competition
• 38:16
  goes through it. So people need to shut the fuck up about this ship,
• 38:20
  you know, like like Pep Guonela was making comments about like how City
• 38:22
  has to like you know, like like I played out many games in short
• 38:25
  span. Who gives a fuck? But you've been in the finals before.
• 38:29
  You're gonna be there again in the future, you know that, Like it
• 38:32
  would be foolish to say City doesn't get into another Champions League final in the
• 38:36
  future in our lives, right, you'd be dumb. So like it's it's
• 38:38
  that's what it is. You have to go through the gauntlet. No team
• 38:42
  has won these championships without going through gauntlets to get them. It's it's it's
• 38:45
  a whole journey and a half. So I think Roma also has that extra
• 38:52
  Like I said it many times in many episodes, losing the final last year
• 38:54
  in penalties just just shows that you were good enough to go for good enough
• 39:00
  to win. It is just you know, off a bad bounce to get
• 39:01
  it for the tying goal and losing the penalty is just really like really hurt.
• 39:07
  But they're they're trying to It's their like fifth semi final in a row
• 39:12
  in the European in European competition. I think it's the fifth in a row,
• 39:17
  not a fifth in a row, but like five out of the past,
• 39:20
  like six yeah since yeah, yeah yeah, they Liverpool and the Semis
• 39:25
  Man United Semis the Europa League, last year's the Conference League and now this
• 39:34
  year. Yeah, so it's five out of six. Maybe it was the
• 39:36
  quarters where they lost. It was the quarters around sixteen that they lost the
• 39:38
  Porto. I didn't think it was Yeah, I think it was cool.
• 39:45
  I'm looking up now, but either way, you know, like this is
• 39:50
  a team that they're confident when they play in European competitions. You know,
• 39:52
  it's not it's not by fluke that they hit the semi finals again, you
• 39:55
  know, they they have this different mentality when playing there and we're thankful for
• 40:00
  that because it helps with it at least coefficient. It must have been really
• 40:04
  doing really well internationally for for for really to have that fifth Champions League spot.
• 40:08
  So it's pretty cool. I'm feeling very confident into that matchup. I
• 40:15
  know that, you know, oh yeah, but they're the Winns the Bundesliga,
• 40:17
  like, so bring them on, bring them on. That's that's that's,
• 40:22
  that's that's there's no other way to look at it, really, you
• 40:25
  know, you know what it is like you know, you know what they're
• 40:28
  about, like we've seen like they've seen it, Like, so I I
• 40:30
  agree on that's there's not really much way else where. What are you going
• 40:35
  to be scared? All the kids buyer every using you're almost at the final
• 40:37
  as you're you're one step away, well a couple of steps away from from
• 40:40
  a final, So it's like, like, what are you going to put
• 40:45
  it in there? Before? They've been here before, they've been in these
• 40:46
  positions before, you know, like, it's not it's not brand new.
• 40:50
  The experience is there. It's uh, Jenny, it's so four years in
• 40:53
  a row that they've made a semi finals since twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen.
• 41:00
  Yeah, okay in European competition obviously last year runner up in the Europa League.
• 41:04
  Year before that one Conference League twenty twenty one. I forgot about this.
• 41:07
  They lost in the semifinals in uh in Europa League. Yeah, they
• 41:12
  lost the Man United. Okay, that was it was Man I remember,
• 41:15
  yeh. But that game they had like three injuries happened in the same game.
• 41:19
  It was it was, it was. It was a bad one like
• 41:22
  Carlow remember, and then we got smoked like it was like seven one and
• 41:28
  then one like they smoked because we had nobody. I think they were gonna.
• 41:30
  They were like rolling people's no no NOAs on the field like no,
• 41:37
  it was. It was bad. Players were just dropping like flies for Roma.
• 41:39
  It was. It was horrible. It was bad. Uh, definitely
• 41:43
  not a good semifinal to remember. That's when I logged out of Twitter that
• 41:45
  day. Carl remembers all the Monopoly people came out Kavani goal. I'm like,
• 41:53
  I need to leave. It's actually Napoli Roma this Sunday. Yeah,
• 42:00
  Derbiel Janini love it Wait, favorite favorite Derby on the show. Yes,
• 42:07
  our favorite DeBie on the show. Love the shop the best. I just
• 42:12
  have I just have it saved so I know every time they play, I
• 42:15
  have it ready a goal. They just shoot it out on the sous.
• 42:21
  Everything instant. It's an instant to post exactly. Yeah, how are you
• 42:23
  feeling for that game, Carlos, especially after you know, watching this game
• 42:28
  where today against blowya where you know it's it's a real top four fight and
• 42:32
  and okay not police blow over them in the standings, but they're so good
• 42:37
  team. You know, we can't deny it. You're They're not your typical
• 42:38
  eighth place team. Uh so how do you what do you what do you
• 42:43
  make of it? For Sunday's game. It's awkward because I think we played
• 42:47
  the do we play with it on the twenty fifth? Yeah, that's the
• 42:52
  replay Thursday? No, when is that? When? There's it them?
• 43:00
  Thirty minutes basically an exhibition. We played them and then we played a Monopoly
• 43:07
  in Naples? Right, So yeah, but Monopoly is not the fortress,
• 43:13
  is it? Madadawona is not the fortress like it was last year. It's
• 43:15
  not, it's it's a I don't know what it is. They're Yeah,
• 43:19
  they're stronger on the road than they are at home, which is very sad
• 43:22
  to see. Maybe the pressure. I just don't know what to explain it,
• 43:27
  Like, well, losing select one percent one of the main things.
• 43:32
  The main reason. Rudy Garcia, the guy they got. Now, like
• 43:36
  those are not that's not it. You're not that guy, as they would
• 43:38
  say, you know, like you're not that guy. Those are just not.
• 43:42
  However, they still have crazy talent. You know, they have Quada,
• 43:46
  they have Oceaiman, who's given giving us problems. I was there live
• 43:50
  when Monopoly won the Scudetto and Oceaman scored in the Olympico like that was and
• 43:55
  smalling that everything he could and this guy still scores. So he's I saw
• 43:59
  live how much of a problem he is. Listen, this is this is
• 44:02
  crunch time and romas. Roma's gotta go in there believing that they can win.
• 44:07
  They're a better team than they are this season, you know, by
• 44:10
  by a little. It's quite a margin now, so they've got to go
• 44:15
  in and believe that. It's just awkward, uh schedule for Roma, but
• 44:22
  no excuses, Like Johnny said, bring it on, bring it on,
• 44:24
  you gotta you gotta take it. That's also like, you know, a
• 44:27
  pretty pretty big game for the for the supporters against each other. So you
• 44:32
  know it's not a usual matchup. There's definitely gonna be you know, a
• 44:38
  there to be like feel if I will, between these two teams. But
• 44:43
  Roma played really well against them last time I thought they played, I think
• 44:46
  Marinho was still the manager at that time, and they played really really well
• 44:52
  against not Believes, So maybe a repeat performance. I mean they need three
• 44:57
  points for sure to close that gap with them and Lonian to run away from
• 45:00
  Atalanta a bit. So they know what they need to do. I'm confident
• 45:04
  that they can get three points. What's the what's the points now? It's
• 45:07
  so because Bonas win today, they went into watch six up on Roma or
• 45:13
  but Roma needs to still play that. We need to finish that with the
• 45:15
  NASA game, so potentially to be a four point cushion if the Oma wins,
• 45:21
  uh and then Atalanta's at fifty four to one point behind. Drama still
• 45:25
  the game in high and there as well for the Fjordentina matchup. Yeah,
• 45:30
  so you know it's gonna it's gonna come down to the wire and Atlanta Roma
• 45:34
  play each other a little later, so there's there. Whoever made the schedule
• 45:37
  to do something that we didn't know? The script writers and you want it's
• 45:43
  most entertaining drama ever every year we say, yeah, but so what's happening
• 45:49
  with YOUSA game? Is it officially just thirty minutes? Is it? Because
• 45:52
  I know it's the game stopped to seventy fifth minute, right, yeah,
• 45:55
  seventy Yeah, they're just starting from that point. Yeah, from my understanding,
• 46:00
  it's they start from that point and they just play. It was one
• 46:04
  one and it kind of I mean, obviously I'm glad. I'm glad uh
• 46:07
  in because okay, but that game, like Romo we're picking up and I've
• 46:12
  watched it. Sometimes you can feel a goals coming and then obviously you know
• 46:15
  he was down and that was I mean, they they made the right decision
• 46:19
  not to continue. And you don't know what's going on. If that's your
• 46:22
  friend, he's in the tunnel, you have no idea, God forbid what's
• 46:25
  going on. As soon as I saw did Ossie start praying and stuff,
• 46:29
  I was like, all right, it's over, Like that's yeah, you
• 46:31
  know, it's serious. It was serious. Yeah, and you know,
• 46:37
  shout out to all the teams that actually also responded, you know, well
• 46:38
  wishes, even Lazio said something. So that was that was nice. Man.
• 46:42
  That's beyond that's beyond the sport, you know. So I'm glad he's
• 46:45
  okay. I don't know what the future holds for him, to be honest,
• 46:49
  but doesn't matter. You know, health is first, everything else secondary.
• 46:52
  So they gotta yeah, they gotta play that game and uh, you
• 46:57
  know, I don't know, hopefully just get three points in fifteen minutes.
• 47:04
  So yeah, I know, I said, we spoke about it last week.
• 47:07
  I think they handled everything well. You know, something that's obviously unforeseen.
• 47:14
  You don't expect these things to happen, even though you kind of have
• 47:15
  to sometimes expect the unexpected and uh, you know on the on the pitch,
• 47:21
  but handled it well. I think it's unfortunate that this is kind of
• 47:24
  happening, and you know, during the business end of the season, crunched
• 47:28
  down like you said, Carlos So. But again it's it's you. You
• 47:30
  have to go through these these moments to see where you know, where you
• 47:35
  actually stand in terms of in terms of your your your competition around you.
• 47:38
  So you know, even still having for me, it was always like the
• 47:44
  Atalanta Fiorentina, Uh, makeup match that has to happen, like they have
• 47:49
  that still that game in hand. If I'm a Roma fan, like I'm
• 47:52
  looking kind of behind me, even though you're you know, you should definitely
• 47:54
  look ahead, but you know, keeping tabs of of Atalanta because yes,
• 48:00
  been a bit up and down. But listen, this is a team that
• 48:02
  took it to Liverpool, uh, you know in Europa. Obviously the Kaliery
• 48:07
  match isn't a representation solely, even though credit to Kalieri in the matchup against
• 48:14
  them, you know, in that result for for Anieri. But I think,
• 48:19
  uh, you know, Roma has to be careful both in both both
• 48:22
  directions. I think they have to strive for for as many points as they
• 48:27
  can, but they gotta, you know, expect Atlanta kind of to to
• 48:30
  be doing that, you know the same thing. And like I said,
• 48:32
  gracefully enough, you know, this fifth spot is is huge. You know,
• 48:36
  obviously we thank Roma, we thank Atlanta, We thank Fjordentina for advancing
• 48:40
  in conference league as well into the semifinals, for for these competitions, for
• 48:45
  us getting that fifth spot for next season. So yeah, I'm I'm excited
• 48:50
  to see how that how that pans out. But I think today's game,
• 48:54
  I think even though it was, you know, not the representation of Roma,
• 49:00
  I don't know, man, Like we were talking about this game prior
• 49:02
  to it happening. For me, this was like a six point swing type
• 49:06
  of game. You know, you you you gain, you gain three,
• 49:08
  you take away three from your point, you know, you know quotations there.
• 49:14
  So yeah, listen, it's it's it's a little bump in the road.
• 49:17
  But I think Roma has the tools under did as see to to strive
• 49:22
  for for for more and and and to hopefully get that that fifth spot,
• 49:29
  you know, to get themselves back in Europe, because this is a team
• 49:31
  that guys, you guys don't have to correct because I don't remember exactly year,
• 49:35
  but they haven't haven't seen champions and uh quite a few seasons. Now,
• 49:38
  When was the last time since nineteen twenty, nineteen twenty? Okay,
• 49:43
  so couple, yeah, so okay for the year twenty nineteen year, the
• 49:49
  year nineteen twenty was the last time? That's what years ago? You go,
• 49:55
  yeah, no, but yeah, it's it's it's it's it's won't go
• 50:00
  over do I think for Roma trying to get back to the champions it's uh,
• 50:04
  it's crazy to bring up, you know, the whole Indica story that
• 50:07
  that same weekend you brought it up earlier, Carlo. There was a player
• 50:13
  in the fifth division, Mattia Janny who sadly passed away and on while playing
• 50:17
  on the field, twenty six years old, and he was dating apparently he
• 50:22
  was dating or sorry, his brother was dating Manchini's sister. Uh, so
• 50:27
  there was a connection, John Loco Manini, So there was a connection.
• 50:30
  Uh. He held up as shured in the game against Melan. I think
• 50:35
  it was the same weekend as Nindica. So for Mancini, you know,
• 50:37
  someone close to him as a teammate and also as you know, a family
• 50:42
  member. Uh, two times in the weekend. It's tough. And I
• 50:45
  don't know if you guys realized there was a moment of silence before each city
• 50:47
  had games this weekend. Yes, for this Matia Johnny, so obviously our
• 50:52
  thoughts go to his family. At that's tough, like twenty six years old,
• 50:57
  he's younger than us, and uh, that's scared and and you know,
• 51:00
  you think even for the team he was playing for. Yeah, I
• 51:05
  just wanted to I just wanted to bring that up because Carl did you didn't
• 51:07
  bring that up earlier and you know you brought up the whole Nadika situation.
• 51:14
  But yeah, back back to Rome. I do want to talk about Euros
• 51:17
  before we end the episode. But one last I have one last question for
• 51:21
  about Rome. I don't know I Johnny and Adrey I also have. But
• 51:24
  you know, just looking at the remaining schedule, you got Napoli, you
• 51:29
  start finished the game against you, you have Napoli, and then you laver
• 51:32
  Cusin. You've a lavery Cusin again at the Linta, Genua Amply and then
• 51:37
  Meanland. So incredibly tough schedule. That's what eight eight and a half games
• 51:44
  left, pretty much eight in a quarter. H What do you what are
• 51:47
  you expecting to see? What do you want to see out of this team?
• 51:50
  And and you know, for you what would you rather see them win
• 51:54
  the Europa League or or or at least big lever Cusin or for the final
• 52:00
  of the year league or directly just qualified for Champions League in a top five
• 52:05
  position? Or when does Scoto next year or this or win the Stanley Cup?
• 52:12
  All a million questions. Well, first of all, I want to
• 52:14
  say or at least win tonight, Johnny? Sorry? Uh. Secondly,
• 52:17
  uh listen, no, man's listen. You you go for it, man,
• 52:30
  these are the last couple of games this season. You give everything you
• 52:31
  have and and you just you play till your legs don't work anymore at this
• 52:37
  point, like injuries is gonna happen, Like you just go What would I
• 52:40
  rather? I'm not gonna lie rather win the Europa League because it slipped from
• 52:45
  us last time, and I feel like that still pains me to this to
• 52:49
  this day. How close we were and again you win Europa League, then
• 52:52
  you make Champions League anyways, so there you go, two birds, one
• 52:54
  stone. But yeah, I mean it. I think we have the toughest
• 53:00
  schedule out of us at Talanta Bologna. If I'm not mistaken, I got
• 53:04
  Talanta might have like the easiest runt. So you know, oh, you
• 53:07
  got to take care of your business and everything else is you know, Atalanta
• 53:13
  could drop points somewhere, it doesn't matter, but you need to make sure
• 53:15
  that you're taking care of your business. Yes, you know we have Juventus.
• 53:19
  Obviously you're a Juve fan. You know that they haven't been great.
• 53:22
  I pray you keep a legedy uh till whenever uh one hundred years over one
• 53:29
  hundred years or yeah, uh you know, they they they have their their
• 53:32
  kind of issues going on. Not only you haven't been as good. Uhmars
• 53:37
  is going to be tough, and then you know you're ending with Genua and
• 53:42
  Puli. Yeah, it's it's it's gonna be very either interesting to be at
• 53:47
  Oma fan or very sad. So we'll see. This is why, this
• 53:52
  is why we watch our teams go through these championship moments, go through the
• 53:55
  gauntlet. As Johnny said, and she's got to bring it on. Man,
• 54:00
  you got to embraced everything. You gotta embrace all the games, and
• 54:01
  like kind of what we touched on before, it's such a privilege to watch
• 54:05
  these guys play, such a privilege for us to be fans because you never
• 54:07
  know what can happen, and you know, like we see these players you
• 54:12
  know have to retire early or god forbid something even worse. So you don't
• 54:15
  leave it all out there because you never know, you never know what's gonna
• 54:19
  happen. So that's that's the message I have for everyone. I feel like
• 54:22
  I'm in the dressing room right now giving a motivational speech. But yeah,
• 54:25
  we're speaking to the we're speaking to yeah exactly, Jenny. I I had
• 54:31
  I don't know if you have any more questions, but I had maybe kind
• 54:34
  of too kind of intertwined, not really, but I had two more questions
• 54:37
  that I kind of wanted to hit before we touch on on the Euros col
• 54:44
  Obviously, you know, having two managers in the season, it's always it's
• 54:47
  always hard to kind of judge, you know, in your individual players.
• 54:52
  You know, because what we said and like we've seen players have played to
• 54:55
  a certain level with under one compared to under another. Uh vice versa as
• 55:00
  well. So, uh, just quickly for my second question, you're kind
• 55:05
  of your your your thoughts on who I stood out for you this season?
• 55:09
  Uh, if it be under more, if it be under uh you you
• 55:15
  can choose however you want to, you know, answer the question, but
• 55:17
  kind of maybe a couple of tops, a couple of flops of this season
• 55:22
  in terms of players, uh, you know, for for Roma, oh
• 55:24
  Man, Okay, Well, I think I think we'll stay on brand.
• 55:30
  I think the person stood out with Mancini for sure. I think he's been
• 55:34
  he's been honestly very I think he's just been a rock. He's been a
• 55:37
  leader, he's been a captain under both of them. To be honest with
• 55:42
  you, so I think i'd have to say Mancini. Obviously, big shout
• 55:45
  out to Peligriny for how much he's turned around. But I think overall,
• 55:49
  if you're talking about whole season, I think Mancini has has definitely been been
• 55:52
  the rock that we needed and been that fire for us. In terms of
• 55:57
  flop, oh Man, flop, I don't know, just not not playing
• 56:05
  up to expectation or what you mean, Rui Patricio really just I mean I
• 56:12
  think I think been top never mind, like, yeah, has been great.
• 56:17
  Yeah, but I think the writing has been on the wall for Ruie
• 56:20
  if I could, if I can mention somebody, I think it was you
• 56:22
  know, he was probably the worst player for US this season and ultimately that's
• 56:27
  why his starting spot was gone. And Spillar has been amazing, you know,
• 56:31
  even the goals he let in today. I mean there's like a bicycle
• 56:35
  kick and then there was like one on one. You know, it's kind
• 56:37
  of put him in a hard position. So you know, I think about
• 56:42
  the times that you know, he's made some says where I go, if
• 56:45
  that was Rouly in that we probably lose that game. You know. So
• 56:49
  I would say those who stand out. Everybody else is kind of just not
• 56:52
  too good, not too bad sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe ship you know.
• 56:58
  Uh so yeah, I would say I would say that's where I'll go for
• 57:02
  those two players. Yeah, No, I definitely definitely agree. I mean,
• 57:07
  we like we're I think we're just as Italian national team fans. You
• 57:13
  know, the auri see Pelgrini come into his own it has been huge,
• 57:17
  uh you know, personally, you know, just extra extra legs in that
• 57:22
  attack in that midfield to kind of get to the ball rolling hopefully, you
• 57:27
  know, if he does get called that, which I think he should.
• 57:30
  Uh, you know, even though it's it's it's a it's kind of Recncy
• 57:35
  biased in terms of, you know, he wasn't having a really great start
• 57:37
  to the season, it's it's how he Sometimes it's not how you started,
• 57:39
  how you finish. You know, Pelgarney is an example of that this season,
• 57:44
  especially in the so definitely agree there. My second que question before again
• 57:50
  we go over to some euro talk before we let you go here. You
• 57:53
  know, obviously in the news of you know, de Rossi extension. Hopefully
• 58:00
  we get to see them a whole season next year, where like, where
• 58:04
  do you want them to kind of look towards in terms of the Medcato,
• 58:07
  in terms of what what holes need to be fixed? What do you want
• 58:09
  to see unders Like, obviously there's you know, Roma's not a perfect team.
• 58:16
  I don't think any NOE team is really perfect. Obviously, inter winning
• 58:20
  the schoolto you can kind of maybe say that, but even at that,
• 58:22
  I don't think any team is really really quote unquote perfect. What holes do
• 58:28
  they need to fix? Under the ROSSI next season and yeah, kind of
• 58:31
  where do you where do you where do you want them to kind of spend
• 58:34
  that potential Champions League money come next season? Well, if we get Champions
• 58:39
  League if yeah, sorry, I know we're all superstitious. I know.
• 58:46
  I think you look at home. I think you look at you know,
• 58:51
  your right back and your left back positions. You know those are our weakest.
• 58:54
  I think we need some more depth there. If we're at least get
• 58:59
  some depth on those positions, that would help. I would say those are
• 59:04
  the biggest holes right now for Roma. I mean, I know we have,
• 59:07
  you know, not the maybe the greatest midfield. I think our attack
• 59:09
  is very good. I think Lukaku, I think that's pretty elite attack for
• 59:15
  Seti. I you know, but but in terms of yeah, just the
• 59:20
  right back situation has just been tough. Carslochilick just haven't been you know,
• 59:23
  those are not guys that I guess take you to a top four spot.
• 59:29
  Maybe, you know, I think next next year you look at possibly if
• 59:32
  Bologna sells a bunch of guys, Mota goes to Juve, perhaps then you
• 59:37
  look at that force being very open and you know a chance for Roma to
• 59:42
  solidify themselves in that four spot. But I think ultimately what needs to happen
• 59:45
  is some tweaks here and there. Does Lukaku stay? Do we buy Lukaku?
• 59:50
  I don't think so. Personally, I don't think we will, but
• 59:53
  you never know. Other than that, I would say, those are the
• 59:57
  two glaring ones that I would have to I would have to say. And
• 1:00:00
  then, of course, you know, you can always use a center back
• 1:00:02
  because you don't know the situation. Now you don't know, but even before
• 1:00:07
  that situation, if you can get a really really established center back, that
• 1:00:10
  would be very for us too. Yeah. No, absolutely, And just
• 1:00:15
  just to throw in their point, the old Asia match under a new manager
• 1:00:20
  that got announced, I think today I just remember that wants to throw that
• 1:00:23
  into the episode seeing seeing some of the legends behind Gihny, and I think
• 1:00:27
  Nevado is one of them. If he takes on it, there he is.
• 1:00:30
  Okay, So look at that in that picture, look at that jail
• 1:00:36
  exactly. So is gonna have two different managers for one match? That's insane.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah, that's true. I don't think that's that's the first time ever
• 1:00:45
  we got to be a record. Yeah, it has to be, has
• 1:00:50
  to be, but no, good to see h getting his shot in.
• 1:00:52
  Said, yeah, I'm curious to see how. I didn't expect it to
• 1:00:57
  be honest, like, for him for a topping right now. I would
• 1:01:00
  have expected it maybe in the summertime, because I know he wanted to to
• 1:01:07
  get obviously coaching in in Sarria, he's had since abroad, and uh,
• 1:01:12
  he's I think made a bit of a mark and list and if it takes,
• 1:01:15
  if it takes, you know, like these dess of the worlds,
• 1:01:17
  the Gatoozos of the worlds, you know, the peers, like these legends
• 1:01:22
  of our game kind of you know, breaking the barriers for for for coaching,
• 1:01:25
  uh, you know, in terms of you know, young young Italians,
• 1:01:30
  Uh, in the coaching sense. You know, I'm excited to see
• 1:01:34
  what kind of otto brings to a thensa side that's you know, battling for
• 1:01:37
  relegation, right, So yeah, I'm curious to see how that, how
• 1:01:43
  that unfolds. Obviously Wishiam wall Capitano for for life. So yeah, I
• 1:01:47
  just wanted to throw that in there because now I don't even know what to
• 1:01:51
  expect in that match in terms of tactics, in terms of formation. I
• 1:01:55
  know it only you know from the seventieth point on, seventy second minute on.
• 1:02:00
  But I'm curious to see how that unfolds now that that came into into
• 1:02:04
  my head with what's kinds, So yeah, definitely interesting. Now just to
• 1:02:14
  you know, give you some time. The floor is going to be yours.
• 1:02:15
  Croatia coming up into the euro Cup. You know how you feeling there?
• 1:02:21
  It is, how how you feeling for the for the competition. This
• 1:02:25
  summer floor is yours. Man, if we can score a goal, I'd
• 1:02:30
  be very happy. Guys playing games, these guys playing more mind games.
• 1:02:37
  If I speak, I'm in big trouble. No listen, that we have
• 1:02:40
  the This is a group of death, no doubt. Italy and Croatia are
• 1:02:45
  actually very similar to me in terms of that. I think our midfield,
• 1:02:49
  I think, are we have those This might sound we were like a side
• 1:02:53
  to side players, so like we're good at keeping the ball, but like
• 1:02:57
  nobody's really good at, you know, creating something by themselves. I mean,
• 1:03:01
  you guys have Kiza, but like you know, stuff like that.
• 1:03:05
  It's like where the goal is gonna come from, Like Italy Crazia. I
• 1:03:07
  just see one one zero zero written all over it. Spain. Spain is
• 1:03:13
  different. Spain keeps the ball too, but they're they're fast man, so
• 1:03:16
  we are not listen. I don't know how I feel, to be honest
• 1:03:22
  with you, I think I think last World Cup, nobody, nobody counted
• 1:03:27
  us in. Everyone said we were old, you know, and we just
• 1:03:30
  grinded these games out. We literally did the Maurinho parked the bus, one
• 1:03:35
  shot goal, took people to penalties. You know, luck was on our
• 1:03:39
  side. Can we do that again? I don't know. Also, a
• 1:03:45
  lot of our players are older. It's probably more that is last last run.
• 1:03:47
  He's thirty nine years old, still playing really well. But again they're
• 1:03:52
  a thirty nine year old bodies, a thirty nine year old body. It's
• 1:03:57
  going to be interesting. I think Spain is the clear favorite be number one,
• 1:04:00
  and then Croatia Italy will fight for that two spot. And you know,
• 1:04:06
  sorry for Albania, but I don't think. I don't think they're gonna
• 1:04:10
  they're gonna do too much damage. They're not a bad team either though,
• 1:04:13
  but they're not. I don't I don't see them doing too much damage.
• 1:04:15
  So Italy, Croatia, whoever scores, wins because that's its first goal.
• 1:04:21
  That's it. Yeah, I'm very interesting. I'm very conflicted because obviously in
• 1:04:28
  Croatian, but I love I love my people. You know. Obviously two
• 1:04:31
  thousand and six World Cup was like life changing for me. Somebody argued with
• 1:04:35
  me the other day about kind of autos shouldn't have one ball on the or
• 1:04:39
  and I was like, dude, you have no idea the streets or that
• 1:04:43
  that Italy team in the streets, you have no idea. Don't talk to
• 1:04:45
  me. And then I felt very old. So, you know, I
• 1:04:49
  hope for a good game. I hope for for a good matchup. And
• 1:04:54
  man, I'm super excited about it. Super what do you guys think I'm
• 1:04:59
  you know, I'm excited. It's good Italy obviously for a time in three
• 1:05:02
  years in a tournament. Right, I'm not missing another World Cup, but
• 1:05:08
  I'm not. I'm gonna take my expectations. You know, defending champions usually
• 1:05:13
  when they come into these tournaments, they struggle. We obviously we haven't seen
• 1:05:16
  a back to back champion since Spain in A eight and twenty twelve. It's
• 1:05:19
  hard, right, and and the way it's just been playing, it's They're
• 1:05:24
  not going in a good direction. It's a tough group. Yeah, Like
• 1:05:29
  obviously Spin such a tough opponent. And besides that semi final win, like
• 1:05:33
  they usually have Italy's number, and it's I think it's gonna be well that's
• 1:05:39
  a lie. Italy beat them in twenty sixteen also, so but they're just
• 1:05:42
  tough, they keep the ball. Yeah, they're just a good team.
• 1:05:45
  They're just such a and it's it's different, right, you know, it's
• 1:05:47
  not Spain of two thousand and eight to twenty twelve. A lot of young
• 1:05:51
  guys. Yeah, I've talked about this on the show, the fact that
• 1:05:57
  it's a it's back in Germany, bringing back at those memories from two thousand
• 1:06:00
  and six. You know, I'm always joking making comments like releading this this
• 1:06:06
  tournament back two thousand and six. You're gonna talk about if Manngini is there,
• 1:06:10
  if he's going to be wearing the number twenty three. Really into matterazzi,
• 1:06:15
  you know, but team, the expectations, I guess, just have
• 1:06:19
  fun. As the defending champs put it that way, Who do you who
• 1:06:24
  do you think should start? Do you think Scamaca on his form as striker?
• 1:06:28
  What do you what do you guys? Say, I say right to
• 1:06:30
  Gio Idriano sometimes kind of goes back and forth. Oh no, me,
• 1:06:34
  it's with I think they both need to be like listen. Obviously now again
• 1:06:40
  recently biased he's he's been scoring, so it's kind of like fresh in our
• 1:06:44
  brain that you know, he should be called up to the squad. I've
• 1:06:46
  always said this about Scamaca, and I know Johnny feels different than I do,
• 1:06:50
  but uh, Johnny calls him what the fridge, I think ridge,
• 1:06:57
  which okay, it's fair, it's fair. What what I always said about
• 1:07:02
  Samaca is that he for me, it's it's always been the biggest shame when
• 1:07:06
  he doesn't step up because he has for me, he has all the tools
• 1:07:10
  to be Italy's next nine, or Italy's or one of Italy's number nine,
• 1:07:14
  because from the height to you know, the physical ability to you know,
• 1:07:19
  the shot playing back to goal, playing you know, you know, as
• 1:07:23
  a target man like wherever you want, like you can play off a guy
• 1:07:26
  like that. So and we have guys that can go, you know,
• 1:07:30
  find space, you know with him at that you know, uh, you
• 1:07:34
  know, at that at that point of reference, I guess you could say
• 1:07:38
  at the nine. But it's not been a big fun of Retegie. I
• 1:07:41
  think just his story and and just him coming onto this scene. Nobody expected
• 1:07:45
  it. He he's hungry, he wants to play the fertily. He you
• 1:07:49
  know, he's scoring when he puts on that shirt. You know, he's
• 1:07:54
  now learning Italian, he's speaking a bit more, he's getting incorporated within the
• 1:07:58
  group. And that's think, you know what kind of I don't know if
• 1:08:02
  it's if he won't scum uck up and he's last couple of whatever, but
• 1:08:08
  you know, for not calling him up to the games in the States there,
• 1:08:11
  but something, something has clicked in his brain. I guess I'm again.
• 1:08:15
  We're hopeful. We I don't care who it is. We just need
• 1:08:18
  to play well. We want obviously to win. We want to score goals.
• 1:08:23
  We've been lacking a nine. Even though we're fans of Immobile. You
• 1:08:27
  know, it just hasn't always translated to the national team. So you know,
• 1:08:31
  I'm sticking with Rtegie, but I think both should be called up in
• 1:08:35
  in my opinion, Johnny, I don't know if you've well, I think
• 1:08:41
  we've all agreed on with Tagy for the most part. If I'm not mistaken,
• 1:08:44
  So yeah, I can't disagree. I think you go you go with
• 1:08:47
  it, tagy. I think I said, like a few episodes ago,
• 1:08:51
  the fact that he's younger, it means that he's more willing to try out
• 1:08:55
  different things and willing to take risks. And sometimes those risks, Karen wards
• 1:08:59
  you very much in uh in elimination games, and sometimes it can cost you
• 1:09:01
  games. But either way, you want to go out there and give your
• 1:09:04
  one hundred percent and leave the field without saying with saying that you have no
• 1:09:08
  regrets that you give it. You're all. So I think that's why you
• 1:09:13
  go to Tegy, Whereas I feel like what's kamaka? It feels a bit
• 1:09:15
  more of like like a missed opportunity or more like I feel like as if
• 1:09:19
  you could have been better blah blah blah. I don't think you get that
• 1:09:23
  kind of sentiment. That's why I like him over the other. Can I
• 1:09:26
  can I say? Who I think we should start? Yeah, go ahead,
• 1:09:30
  you're on the You're on their show for a reason, my friend,
• 1:09:32
  I think Austin Matthews, no for I'm just joking, but U it's interesting
• 1:09:44
  man, like uh, I know is in great form, Like you said,
• 1:09:49
  he has all the tools, but very inconsistently you'll wake up out of
• 1:09:54
  nowhere, score a bunch of goals and disappear. Yeah, we don't need
• 1:09:58
  that. So yeah, like I said, I think I think the who's
• 1:10:02
  gonna score in that game Italy. I have no idea, maybe it will
• 1:10:08
  be a penalty or whatever, but but I think I think also the best
• 1:10:12
  third place team makes it out too. So yeah, but that path,
• 1:10:16
  I don't you're gonna I don't remember that. That's a bit of a tougher,
• 1:10:21
  tougher path too. And don't get Italy's name with playoff in the same
• 1:10:27
  sentence, because uh, it doesn't end well. So listen, I don't
• 1:10:31
  want. I know you're on the show tonight, so obviously it's it's a
• 1:10:35
  bit of back and forth. Obviously, who wants that second spot? If
• 1:10:38
  in an ideal world and on this show alone, it would be Italy and
• 1:10:42
  Croatia and we can say by to to Spain and Albedia. But I think
• 1:10:45
  if we're a bit more realistic, like you said, I I agree,
• 1:10:49
  I think we're well probably be fighting for that for that second spot. You
• 1:10:55
  know, both Italy and Croatia remind me of Carl that that game is when
• 1:11:00
  when it was that game June twenty four. That's it. That's the middle
• 1:11:02
  game. That's the middle game. So the last game. Oh no,
• 1:11:08
  sorry, you are right, I'm sorry, it's the last game for for
• 1:11:11
  Italy. Well encourage obviously, Yeah, yeah, yeah, So listen,
• 1:11:15
  that might come down to again, we're we're now we're just playing Fantasy Line
• 1:11:19
  here, but you know, that might come down to, you know,
• 1:11:24
  like you said, whoever scores wins, whoever scores maybe advances in that second
• 1:11:29
  spot. So I think there's a lot of there could be a lot of
• 1:11:31
  implications on that game if we're if we're you know, obviously looking at this
• 1:11:35
  like from an early point of view. Yeah, listen where I'm excited,
• 1:11:42
  I know, and I agree with Nick obviously manage expectations, but I'm excited.
• 1:11:45
  Man like the Euros to another tournament. Uh, anytime it was in
• 1:11:49
  a tournament. Obviously we're excited. I know, I can speak for myself
• 1:11:53
  that we're super excited. You know, facing good competition. I think is
• 1:11:58
  is uh is a good thing and obviously a bad thing in terms of obviously
• 1:12:00
  you want to to to advance and and maybe Clini first place. But I
• 1:12:05
  think facing good competition kind of shows you where you're at, you know,
• 1:12:12
  at what level you're at. So listen, you know, Christia had had
• 1:12:16
  a hell of a run in these past couple of World Cups. Never mind
• 1:12:19
  just last one, we go back to twenty eighteen. Obviously that was another
• 1:12:23
  big moment for the country. So your goalie last last World Cup, Vakovich
• 1:12:29
  was was, uh, you know, obviously on a big on a big
• 1:12:32
  tear. So I said, I'm I'm I'm I'm excited. I'm excited.
• 1:12:38
  Too bad we can't watch this game altogether because I think we would kill each
• 1:12:41
  other. But no, that would be Uh, it's it's gonna be.
• 1:12:44
  It's gonna be a fun tournament, I hope, and uh looking forward to,
• 1:12:47
  uh to what happens and going in there as defending champs. Like listen,
• 1:12:51
  like if we like it or not, if people are going to respect
• 1:12:55
  it or not. For me, I don't really care it. We're going
• 1:12:59
  in there as defending champs and so just uh it went, you know,
• 1:13:02
  go out through with pride, I think is obviously the biggest thing for for
• 1:13:06
  Italy because obviously we're going through a bit of a moment. But I think
• 1:13:10
  in tournaments anything with Italy, anything as possible. So and they showed it
• 1:13:13
  time and time again that get them into the tournament, get out of the
• 1:13:15
  group, anything can happen. So optimistic and excited to see what happens at
• 1:13:21
  you're twenty twenty four. A lot of a lot of big games for you,
• 1:13:26
  Carlo in the next few months as Aroma and Croatia supporter. So good
• 1:13:30
  luck, you know, stay calm, good luck. Yeah, at least
• 1:13:34
  yeah, at least you know. It's fun. It's fun, like that's
• 1:13:39
  what's more it's all about. But you know, we we appreciate you coming
• 1:13:43
  on. Man. You're always a good a good conversation. I forget.
• 1:13:45
  It's probably like third or fourth time you've come on, and you know,
• 1:13:51
  absolute pleasure to listen to you, talk to you talked about Roma City,
• 1:13:56
  app Croatia. But we'll we'll happen up. But before we do, where
• 1:14:00
  can people find you? And I know you run your own you have a
• 1:14:03
  separate Twitter account. Where can people find you on social media? I appreciate
• 1:14:09
  you guys having me man. Anytime you guys want me to have want to
• 1:14:12
  have me on man, Definitely, I love talking and set it out with
• 1:14:15
  you guys. So I appreciate you guys having me, thank you so much
• 1:14:17
  on this try. We couldn't do it last week, so I really appreciate
• 1:14:20
  the double the double back invite, So that's great for sure. Yeah,
• 1:14:25
  where people can find me on Twitter, I've run the roma in the six
• 1:14:28
  account as R six m a right there on the screen and then also have
• 1:14:32
  my my name at my name Carlo Kines also separate. I don't tweet much.
• 1:14:38
  I just kind of retweet, you know, funny stuff or sports stuff.
• 1:14:42
  So yeah, man, just continuing to be on Twitter and then it
• 1:14:46
  will be an interesting couple a couple of months really, So I see you
• 1:14:50
  guys on there. Perfect. Yeah, I knows. And Carlo again,
• 1:14:55
  thank you, thank you again. We definitely appreciate it, and I'm glad
• 1:14:59
  we made it work. Like I said earlier to start the show, very
• 1:15:00
  glad we were able to make it work. Uh, they took the words
• 1:15:04
  out of my mouth. Always a pleasure to speaking to you. You know.
• 1:15:09
  It's just a casual conversation that we know we can always have with you.
• 1:15:13
  So again it's it's always a pleasure. Guys. Go give them a
• 1:15:15
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• 1:15:20
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• 1:15:26
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• 1:15:29
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