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Yoreh De’ah 268:3-8. Conversion: The Process, Blessings, Who Converts, Three Present, Child, Fetus, Adoption · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are helpless gearing the
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  conversion process. OK, so we started the process
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  yesterday. We are in race al mekhat, we're
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  continuing with si EF gimel. What's done exactly nowadays is
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  probably maybe better, maybe stricter, maybe too much, maybe
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  too not won't get into it. But we see from the post game
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  you're supposed to tell them a sampling of the mitzvos and not
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  to overdo all the details, not to overdo, right?
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  We don't tell them every little khumrah or minhug or din from
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  Claudia Sarola does not seem to be what the Rishonian spoke
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  about or khazao. And we don't over bear them on
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  the difficulties, right? We learn some of the stuff that
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  we learn about, take it with a grain of salt, but some of the
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  stuff that we learned from Gyrus and Khalidza, we learned
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  straight out from Miguelas Rus, right, But not 100%.
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  It's working. OK.
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  So for example, when Noemi saw that Ruth was sincere and she
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  wanted to convert, so it says Vatek Dahl, the bear Elia, she
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  stopped. She wasn't pushing her away too
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  much. That's not, we're going to talk
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  about that in a moment that there's there's an Indian.
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  If it's a good gear, it's a good thing to convert them.
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  And we don't want to alienate or push away someone who should
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  convert. I, I don't think there's a
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  reading list that's often given by a Bayesdin.
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  I don't think there should be a, a list of Holocaust books, for
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  example, on that list. It doesn't seem like that's
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  anyways. Maybe one, maybe 1, maybe.
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  OK, now Minayin Baim, you tell them, but you don't have to have
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  them read a 600 page book with pictures.
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  Anyways, maybe. OK, I was just going to point
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  out a person gave me a couple Marie Khazal.
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  Very interesting. We wanted to know where did this
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  gharim come from? So there's one midrash that
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  that's from the Sikh. Sikh, the Arabati, it's in
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  Memgilmol. So we we learned by we're all
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  familiar with Sara Immanuel. It says Mimilel.
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  What's the what's the what's the wording again?
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  Mimilel Avraham Hinika Banim. Sara.
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  So the famous question is Sara, she was nursing banim boys.
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  She just had one son, Itzhak. Why does it say Banim?
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  Because on that day, so there's a couple midrashim on it, but
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  basically the idea is from the midrashim is that people were
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  saying, oh, it's of course Sara. She's what, she's 90.
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  She can't have any children. She can't be nursing.
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  It's must be from somebody else, Avraham or some or he's also
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  old. That could have been Avrah maybe
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  someone else they took someone else's child whatever with
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  someone else, whatever it is people were not talking very
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  nicely. So Hashem made a miracle and he
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  said we want I want the I want to the nations of the world to
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  know that Hashem is beginning to bring the Nissim to the world
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  for Claudia, Sir Al for Avram and that she's going to have
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  flow from from her breasts milk. So what happened?
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  So the, the, the one of them, we'd rush him.
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  Is that the, the, the, the woman, the noble woman, all the,
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  the, the big famous noble woman in town.
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  They stopped nursing, they dried up, didn't work.
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  So they had to come to her and drink from her nurse, from Sarah
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  to see. And then it was and and it was
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  there was enough for everybody. What the right to nurse their
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  children as well. And so it was proof because
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  usually the Madras says Hashem says that, you know, Sarah was
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  at Sanua, you know, Mamash and but the Madras says Hashem says
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  sometimes you're not supposed to be at Sanua.
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  And this is one of the times where it wasn't the most serious
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  situation, but she was there to nurse for for many.
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  And there's a Midrash that says she would even nurse 100 a
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  hundred babies a day. I didn't I didn't find that.
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  I looked in the Midrash Rabba and the and the Alka Chamoni.
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  But there apparently there might be such a Midrash because Milel
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  is Lushan is Gematria 100. So Rashi says it's because
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  Avraham was 100 years old. But OK, anyways, that's so I
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  don't know why'd I get to this. It's from the children are
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  descendants who drink nursed from Sara.
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  That's where the future converts came from.
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  There's another one that says because of the Ro social asaf
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  that was in the Marasa Machpelah, that was his kadusha
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  and there was kadusha and asaf. And so therefore from him there
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  needed to be the future future gear and are going to come from
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  him. So it's a Shamaya of Italia and
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  it'll be mayor and it'll be Akiva.
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  That's Kaim Vital says that that they come from his head K1 other
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  one one other two quick things is by Harcini.
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  We know that the Jew the all the nations were offered to convert.
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  So there were. So what happens is all the Jews
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  were at Harsi and I, so they all said Nassif Anishima.
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  They, some of them weren't too excited to accept the Torah, but
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  they felt compelled. Their friends, everyone,
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  everyone was saying yes, but they're going to be different.
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  So from them comes, unfortunately, the Mishou Madim
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  people who who go off the Derek and there were all nations who
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  all the other nations who said no, but there were many
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  individuals who really wanted to say yes, But what are they going
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  to leave their family? All their everyone's going to
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  look at them. So they didn't really feel
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  comfortable to say yes, but they really wanted to.
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  And from their descendants came future Gearing.
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  One last midrash is there is this is this is quoted from
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  Chuvas from Bali Tosvas Mahima Rotenberg, the shame Rabihuda
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  Khasid that there's an Angel in charge of Nashamas right.
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  This is a famous Khazal Inbin David BA achikala kola Nashamas
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  Shabbaguf that we're not then the days Bashir is not going to
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  come until all of the Nashamas are divvied out, but so on
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  there. He says the the the Angel in
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  charge sometimes takes a Jewish do a Jewish neshama brings him
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  down to this world. He's supposed to put it into a
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  Jewish mommy and by mistake he puts him into the wrong reckon.
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  I don't know That's so you can take it as you like.
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  And then when he messes up the other way, that's where you get
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  the Mashuma deem from them. It could be a gilgo OK of an
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  illicit relationship. OK, that's the result.
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  OK, very good. Anyway, so let's continue.
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  So we left off with so the the you have the Baizdin and they do
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  kabala submitzvos. You did Mila and then and then
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  you do kabala submitzvos again when they're in the water or the
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  mikvah. OK, so we said when they come
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  out of the water, they say the bracha alla tavila.
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  As far as I know, the men would would cover their head with some
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  kind of a garment or keep something by the by the water
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  and all right, just make sure it's or they could be dressed or
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  depending just cover up. You have a khatsita.
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  Those are halakhas of erva. You have the water separate
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  between the heart and below and but it depends if it's clear,
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  maybe if it's clear it's a problem.
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  So that's separate Sovia. Anyways, there were the Baz
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  points out, I think some battidinium do it and some
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  don't. Or the Baz says Aminagh is when
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  they get out. Besides Al at Savila, they also
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  say the bracha Shechiano. That's what I brought down in
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  the PSK Julia. So some do, some don't.
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  OK, as far as what the practice is, let's read inside Gimel
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  Kolian ehaguer Bain le Jodio ham mitzvah, the kablum Bain hamila
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  bainetzvila. So this entire process that
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  we've been talking about, sorry, you'll be slow, shocked sharing
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  Ladoun. It has to be with three kosher
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  individuals, OK, that are kosher for to do a Bay zip ubayong.
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  And it must be done during the day, right?
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  Because we learned that all of this process is a mishpat miru
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  dafka lahatkhila. Now keep reading because can't
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  read this out of context. This is only lahatkhila.
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  But there is something that's lahatkhila.
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  There is something that's bidi avid.
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  Let's let's let's explain about bidi avid.
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  Yeah, I'll just say oh, let's read inside about bidi avid in
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  Loma O taval elabithne schneid. As long as you have, as long as
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  the Mila and the tabila is done in front of two OK, hold, hold
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  on O Krovim. And they can even be related to
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  each other Uba Lila. And even if it was done at night
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  time, well, I feel a lot Tavala Shingirut even if they didn't
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  even go to the mikvah machine conversion.
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  We did go to the mikvella shame Tara, but not machine conversion
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  Ala Isha Tavola curio that he wanted to to do it for Kerry for
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  Seminole flow as that or as as Tara.
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  There's no Tara, but Isha should Tavola need the Tara woman who
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  wanted to be for for the Nida to become Tara.
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  Javi Gehr. He is a Gehr, a mutter be a Sir
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  elite and then his mutter is a then he's a Jew.
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  Because it has to be, I believe it needs to be the shame.
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  Tara. When does this come up more?
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  Maybe from an avid. So either she misunderstood what
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  she was doing or it could be an avid Kanani, Shivka Kanani
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  that's doing it for Tara 'cause that's important, but she didn't
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  necessarily do it for conversion.
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  And she changed her mind Afterwards she goes, oh, I just
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  went to the Mecca. That works.
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  So anyways, let's keep reading. It's a much of the Australian.
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  So then a much of Australia just means she's 100.
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  He or she is 100% kosher convert, 100% hoots in Kabbalah
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  TA mitzvah. Here it is.
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  It says it inside that for Kabbalah's mitzvos, it is in a
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  cave in Ena Bayon Ubislosha, because the pasta says mishpat,
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  it's a Bayesian action. It must be done, the kosher
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  Bayesian. But what is that?
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  And that means it must be 3 and it must be during daytime.
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  We don't start a din unless it's the three.
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  I don't think you have to get on to that.
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  But the Taas does quote the yeah, Sri writes that Gufadavar
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  VAT khala to is what we call at the essence.
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  That's the Kabbalah's mitzvahs. But Milan tavila is Ki ilu.
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  But God be this, it's a analogy again, it's, it's a mushal.
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  I'm not sure take it, not take it.
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  But it's a mushal anyway. But that's like the gamar din, a
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  bae's din. Halachically we get to later can
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  start during the day and finish at night.
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  But anyways, bottom line 3 the Kabbalah's mitzvahs has to be
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  done by three, but he didn't during the day and the other the
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  rest Bidi Evid doesn't have to be against Maklokas.
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  We've shown him and it's a bit of a maklokas.
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  How to understand exactly Bidi evid and what's the Khadhila?
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  What's the reisa? What's the Rabbanan?
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  But anyways, you'll you'll see many of the post games say
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  really me Ikaradin for tavila and Mila.
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  You'll tavila Mila. You only need to have one
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  because normally we say aid Ekhaneh Mandi suing.
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  When it comes to Nemanus and Yadiya you don't always need to
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  have more than one, but when it comes to an issue of Adius you
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  need to have two and when it's an issue of Mishbat you have to
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  have three. So therefore for the Kabbalah
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  you need 3 in order la Khatila. The post games say you want 3
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  for everything, bidi evid 2, and the most bidi evid is one for
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  the tabula and well, three is 100% inaccurate for the base for
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  the Kabbalah's Mesa, so I don't want to be confusing.
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  It's for the Mila and the Tavila, the catrilla we say 3
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  some say, and then bidi evid we get away with two or one.
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  And that's why it might be OK to have one when a woman goes to
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  the mikvah. But the but the but the general
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  recommended and even the Schaff points out for the women, even
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  when they go to the mikvah. You want to have two or three
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  now and then the question is when do you need Adis?
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  When do you need one? So we're talking about a major
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  thing. We're talking about a convert.
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  And there also is it affects the eucholos to the IT affects stavr
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  shabba erba. You certainly want to have two
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  and perhaps you must have two for some of the issues that come
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  up anyway. So normally 3 is, is what's 3 is
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  really what's done. OK Ullaha Rif, they have Rambam
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  now the Rif and the Rambam, they have a little bit of a, a middle
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  ground, a little more strict. And they say, I feel with the
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  avid, should tabala mabi finish nine O Belila meh, Aqib the
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  asurbiya sreli that they hold no, even for the Tavila and the
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  tavila and the Mila, you need to have three.
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  Sounds like it's only neither only Edinder Abanan and it's
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  right and but they say it well, so we have to listen to the
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  whole sentence. Bedi avid, they need to go.
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  According to the Shalkanar, if you did it with two bedi avid,
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  you don't have to go again. But according to the Rambam and
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  the rift, you need to do it again.
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  You would dip again and do a toughest ambris Ava.
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  That's if he didn't marry yet. But aval IEM Nasayi, Sir Eliot
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  the Holy is that the this is the Ramblin in the rib.
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  This whole thing. No, no, no, the rib from the
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  ramblin. They hold that once they go with
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  NASA Yusuf Ali look at it inside.
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  It's a homochlok is what they actually say anyways, but maybe
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  one of them the both of them OK, whatever.
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  So then if they if he actually there was done.
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  The case is 3 for caballos mitzvos, 2 for tavila Mila
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  according to the realm of the rift.
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  It's quoted here that if he marries A usur alien and now
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  they have a child, then that child is kosher.
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  In other words, even if the mother is Jewish, the child's
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  always Jewish. So what's enough kamina for the
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  child to marry a coin? Because that matters if she has
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  a baby with a Jew or a non Jew. OK, fine.
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  Then it's forbidden if it's with the non Jew and if it's a Jew
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  with a Jew, that's perfect. Let's go on.
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  OK, Dalid Hoyo uta vilas guerre. Sorry, based in shell shlosha.
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  OK, so we just said you need to do everything with three.
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  So therefore we're calling the whole thing like a mishpa, like
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  khatrila. Again, this is only a, the fact
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  that everything needs three. That's a din la chakila aim
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  matzo bilinota, the Shabbat Philobi Yontov.
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  So therefore you don't do it on Shabbos in Yontov because it's,
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  it's a mishbat, it's a tikko and whatever it is.
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  And therefore we're not going to do that on Shabbos in Yontov,
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  the law baila and you're not going to do it at night time,
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  the in Tawal hareza guerre. But if they did go to the mikva
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  at night time and they do Kabbalah, so mitzvahs during the
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  day, then the halacha is, is 100% Jewish.
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  Maybe the, the Bayesian would want him to go to the mikvah
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  again to Beyoncé the the Rif and the Rambam.
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  But that's not the Kurhalaka. Hey, Hamala Tagirium.
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  Now when you do the mitzvah of this is backwards.
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  We're going back to the beginning now of the process.
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  You're going to do Mila. So when you do Mila, there's a
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  bracha what the Moil does on the on the on the Garrett again,
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  obviously you can't write, you can't say the bracha when
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  there's Airbus. So you cover it up and you don't
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  hold it until after the bracha. And then you do everything we
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  learned before what's the bracha?
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  So here I got the whole version here.
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  It's to convert on the convert Mevaris Barochata Shamela quinoa
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  Hola Masheka de Shamlano Lamu ET Aguirre Mulatif Dame TIF Mayhem
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  dam breed Shamali Dam very low kind of shamanic arch in low
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  breathing your mum Vila who called shamanic the arts and
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  then as the task points out, and then end is Barochata sham
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  create a breed. OK, so that's all part of it.
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  As soon as I saw the mole is saying the second bracha
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  afterwards, right? Yeah, right after the Mila right
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  And OK, I saw somewhere how can we call it a Gershenit Kayer
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  Forget even though we say Gershenit Kayer, I don't say a
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  Goyeshenit Kayer. But you started as an Angel
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  because it's a consumer, Malcolm of Kedusha, and it's more, it's
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  a nicer, it's a nice, nicer election.
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  But also now he's Jewish. You don't want to.
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  We never want to shame him after the fact.
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  We always want to make him talk nice.
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  Vav nokri chinitgaya. So now we have Ynanju, a woman,
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  and now she converts. He meant Uberret.
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  What happens if she's pregnant? Is the child Jewish or not?
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  When she converts, does the child automatically get the
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  Uber? The fetus embryo automatically
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  become Jewish bina EN sarik tabila.
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  So the answer is yes and the child doesn't have to do another
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  tabila Zain goy kata. OK, now we're talking about a
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  minor, a boy under 13, a girl under 12 EM Yeshua of now let's
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  say he has a father like typical case would be a family wants to
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  convert right? So I've seen this you had scene
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  where has two parents, mother, father and a child and they all
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  want to convert together. So what how does how does this
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  work? So the so the father, that's the
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  father of the child. So he brings the child to
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  convert with him, right. The whole family comes here.
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  We'll talk about a couple scenarios maybe tomorrow.
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  OK, there are two of us. Interesting.
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  The IM in law of Yakua Gallerato, so that's no problem.
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  They come together no problem. The IM in law of what if the
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  father the the child has no father Uba lead Kayer and he
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  comes on his own all on his own to convert O IMO meviota lead
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  Kayer or the the the the mother brings him to convert.
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  So then Megarinoto, no problem, any of these cases, no problem.
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  We conferred him. She says who to love?
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  Because even though a child is a katan and then a halacha, katan
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  means they don't have das, they're not mature enough, they
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  don't know what they're getting themselves into.
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  I mean, many of us at age 13, we see our kids that we, we don't
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  wonder if they have any das. And many of us, I don't know,
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  myself included, sometimes you look at yourself and you, after
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  you make a decision, doesn't matter even if you're 30 or 40
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  and you go, what was I thinking? Where was my das anyway?
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  And we always say that a person only does an avera Ellen unless
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  niknas ruashtas. So anyways, anyway, the halaka
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  is enlodas when you are, so it's cut down.
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  So how? How can they convert if they
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  don't have das? They don't know what they're
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  doing. He because Olive is Zach in the
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  Adam. She's a little bit fun of
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  because I mean, it says it in other places, but it says it
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  regarding Garrus as well, that it's a it's a privilege for a
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  child to convert. He's becoming, he's going to do
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  all them. He's going to believe in Hashem.
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  He's going to, he's going to be Makayem Aldous mitzvos and he's
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  going to get a place in Ghan Aden in Olam Haba that that a
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  non Jew can get a non Jew can get a very high place in Olam
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  Haba. But the same, the, the same
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  Sadiq. Well, if he's Jewish and he's in
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  Qaimal, the mitzvahs and believe in Hashem, he'll get even
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  higher. So there's no compare.
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  OK, no comparison. Fine.
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  So let's read on, right? That's why the that's why the
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  guerre wants to convert 'cause he knows that Bain khatan
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  shigeru Avi Bain shigeru baisden whether he was converted because
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  of his father or the baisden. So then Yahoo limchot
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  mishiagdil. However, once he hits, the boy
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  hits 13 or the girl hits 12, so then he's able to undo it.
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  The Ain Dino que yisrael mumar Allah que goy.
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  So this is interesting. Normally a person who's above
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  the age of 1213, right? The bar mitzvah, Bar Mitzvah,
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  once they convert, there is no way back.
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  The one exception over here is if it's a khatzan who converts,
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  He he was already born and now he converts.
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  So it Khatzan when he turns barabat mitzvah the first time
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  that he finds out. If you find, you have to find
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  out. As soon as you find out, once
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  you're above that age, you can undo it.
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  You say, no, no, I don't want to be Jewish.
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  I take it back. So if a person is a convert and
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  he is not sure what he wants to do, I.
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  We're going to keep reading. We'll see this.
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  Let me just read it and we'll see this together.
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  But Ahmed Avarian, memorian, when do we say this?
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  Once he is 13 and he when he finds out he doesn't do anything
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  Jewish, he pauses and waits Ava and then he decides then he he
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  gives on Makah. He says I don't want to be
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  Jewish anymore. Ava minhag yadut.
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  But once he's Noah minhag yadut he Darwins sits in a keeper
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  Mistama puts on filling Misha. I mean, that's if he was already
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  wearing it. So then I think you have a
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  little bit of time, but you do an action that shows that you
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  want to keep the minhag Yahadut MI shahigdio shuf Eno Yahoo
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  limkhot. It's too late.
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  You can't go back either. So as long as you don't do
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  anything that shows that you want to stay Jewish, once you
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  find out, so then you can, you can be Maha.
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  But once, once that time passes, you cannot.
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  Also, once you show that you want to be Jewish, you can't go
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  back anymore. So if a person is not finds out
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  and he's not sure he wants to think about it.
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  So what he really should do is say I don't want to be Jewish
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  right now. And then if he decides he wants
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  to be Jewish, go convert again. Because otherwise, if you said
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  if you need a few days to think about it, then by your actions
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  over the next few days that you might make yourself Jewish and
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  then there's no way back. Now the the shock points out
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  from the post game that if the child when he's, I don't know,
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  10 years old, six years old and they're bringing him to convert,
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  he says, I don't want to convert.
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  So then we said we don't convert them or he's not converted
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  against his. Well, even if he's a child.
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  And but once he converts as a child, he can't undo it anymore
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  until he reaches bar mitzvah. But he what he does say the
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  exact application's not clear. But he says if he's a child and
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  he says I don't want to be Jewish after he already
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  converted, he says, I don't want to be Jewish.
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  I take a bath. So then it doesn't work.
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  But he can use that when he turns 13 like that.
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  Maha still stands. I don't know.
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  But what do you do when you're 13 to show that you still feel
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  that way or not? It's not exactly clear.
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  I in sham, it's in the it's in the Shah and Adrisha.
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  OK, so now in order to convert a child, it must be a Zechus.
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  As we pointed out, it must be in his favor.
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  So therefore the halaqa, generally speaking, is that if
• 25:41
  you have a non from parents who want to adopt A child, this is
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  where it comes up very commonly. And non non religious parents,
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  non orthodox, non religious, they want to they want to adopt
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  AA non Jew and they want to make him Jewish.
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  So it's a big problem society. It's just it's a big it's a big
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  problem in the world because on the one hand, they also want the
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  option of adopting and they also want to have their child Jewish
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  just like them. But halachically, if it's not
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  going to be a Zechus for the child, it's usser for the
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  Baizdin to convert them. And it's probably not even Khal
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  and therefore it's a parent's a non religious one.
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  Abezan is not allowed to convert the child.
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  And it's probably not even Khalbidiyevila Mafreya because
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  there's no Zakus. It has to be a Zakus.
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  If he's not going to be religious, he's he's not, he's
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  not going to believe in God. Or he might at the very best
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  believe in God, but he's not going to be Makai and the
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  mitzvos. So there are situations.
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  And so it's, it's a big problem in, in society, especially,
• 26:49
  especially in Israel, but around, but around the world,
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  it's a problem. And so you have to find out who
• 26:57
  converted the, the, you know, who converted somebody.
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  I mean, the, the, yeah, we're going to get into it.
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  It's a problem to convert anyone who's not going to be shomer
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  mitzvahs and with anybody it might not work even bit of it
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  depending on the situation. And there are cases where the
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  parents might not be so from or one is 1 isn't, but the child
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  will grow up in a religious home and there's guarantees that the
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  child's going to be shomer Shabbos.
• 27:29
  There are anyways that's sometimes discussed in the post
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  game. We are.