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23-year-old UCONN engineering major murder rampage · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: does a football star an honor student, a double major
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Speaker 1: in business and engineering, turn out to be the most
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Speaker 1: This is crime stories. Let's kick it off with our
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Speaker 1: Fred John Lmley Crime Online. Friday, May twenty second, Memorial
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Speaker 1: Day weekend is about to begin, but just before nine am,
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Speaker 1: a neighbor notices a man standing at the end of
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Speaker 1: Ted de Murrs driveway. Suspicious. The neighbor sends the sixty
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Speaker 1: two year old self employed woodworker a text. It's a
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Speaker 1: message that he would never receive. Around nine oh one am,
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Speaker 1: Connecticut State Police are called to a reported disturbance on
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Speaker 1: Myrtle Road in Willington. When troopers arrive at nine oh eight,
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Speaker 1: they find Ted de Murs dead and another man hurt.
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Speaker 1: Demur's wife of forty two years, Cynthia, tells the Hartford
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Speaker 1: Current that her husband offers to help a young man
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Speaker 1: who's walking. The man says his motorcycle is down the road,
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Speaker 1: and Demurs offers him a ride back. About five minutes later,
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Speaker 1: a neighbor alerts Cynthia de Murs, and she finds her
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Speaker 1: husband lying on the ground with obvious injuries. The coroner's
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Speaker 1: report notes Demurs cause of death sharp force and chop
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Speaker 1: injuries of head with sharp force, injuries of torso and extremities.
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Speaker 1: A sixty two year old woodworkers found hacked dead, chop
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Speaker 1: injuries to the head, sharp force injuries to the torso
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Speaker 1: and the extremities. Theodore Demurs is dead. Joining me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel, of course, we're talking about twenty three
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Speaker 1: year old Yukon stitent Peter Manfredonia with me. Ashy Wilcott,
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Speaker 1: judge and trial lawyer anchor Court TV. You can find
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Speaker 1: her at Ashy Wilcott dot com. Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned
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Speaker 1: psycho Ana's joining me out of Beverly Hills at doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com. Cloyd Steiker thirty six years Seattle
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Speaker 1: PD twenty two homicide and author of Seattle's Forgotten serial
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Speaker 1: Killer Gary Jane Grant, Cloyd Steiger dot com, Professor Forensics,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, death investigator, author of Blood Beneath My
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Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan, but first to Levi
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Speaker 1: Page Crime Online dot com investigative reporter LEVI take a
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Speaker 1: listen to what our friends at WFSB three Constate Police
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Speaker 1: presser says. Friday, May twenty second, at nine oh one am,
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Speaker 1: State Police troops and Holland were dispatched via nine one
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Speaker 1: one of a report of a disturbance on Myrtle Road
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Speaker 1: in the town of Willington. At nine oh eight am,
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Speaker 1: troopers arrived and located two injured men on the roadway.
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Speaker 1: Sixty two year old Theodore de Murz was pronounced deceased
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Speaker 1: while being transported to the hospital. The second victim was
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Speaker 1: transported to an area hospital and is currently in stable
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Speaker 1: posit condition. Detectives responded to the crime scene and began
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Speaker 1: investigating and speaking to witnesses. You're hearing our friends at
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Speaker 1: w FSB three con State Police. So he learned that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just Theodore Demurs that was hacked with a
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Speaker 1: sword or a machete. An eighty six year old neighbor
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Speaker 1: comes to help Demurs to leavi page. Demurs of course dead,
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Speaker 1: but the eighty six year old neighbor ends up in
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Speaker 1: critical condition, near death in the hospital. What happened, You're right, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: it's nine am May twenty second and Connecticut State Police
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Speaker 1: responded to a disturbance. It's on Myrtle Road in Wilmington, Connecticut,
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Speaker 1: and Theodore Demurs, he's sixty two years old. He was
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Speaker 1: found did and another man was taken to the hospital
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Speaker 1: after they were taken hostage and hacked with a machete.
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Speaker 1: Whoa wait, wait, wait wait wait, taken hostage and hacked
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Speaker 1: with a machete. It's my understanding that Theodore de Murs ted.
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Speaker 1: Demurs wife says Demurs was being a good samaritan. That
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Speaker 1: a guy walked up needing a ride to his motorcycle
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Speaker 1: or a ride in general, wearing a motorcycle helmet. And
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Speaker 1: you know, Ashley Wilcott, judge and trial lawyer, I will
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Speaker 1: never forget the first time I heard somebody going on
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Speaker 1: a rampage. They walked into it was either a Richest
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Speaker 1: or a Macy's to get return credits, and they were
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Speaker 1: wearing a motorcycle helmet inside the store. Now, we all
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Speaker 1: know about mask laws up until COVID anyway, where that
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Speaker 1: was a violation of an ordinance in itself. But this
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Speaker 1: guy walks up with a motorcycle helmet on, saying in
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Speaker 1: his trouble and Demurs offers to help. That was his
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Speaker 1: big crime, Ashley. Yeah, it was a good samaritan, right,
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Speaker 1: And which of us, honestly wouldn't. You may think, Oh,
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Speaker 1: he was on his motorcycle, he has a helmet on,
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Speaker 1: he needs help, and most people are trusting, Nancy. Maybe
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Speaker 1: not me because of what I do for a living,
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Speaker 1: but many people are, so they thought innocently, let's help
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Speaker 1: this guy. And look what happened to him. You know,
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Speaker 1: I I just hate it, So I understand leave my
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Speaker 1: page that Demurs gives the p a ride and somehow
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Speaker 1: everything goes sideways and he ends up getting hacked dead
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Speaker 1: with what a machete? He was hacked with a machete, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: And you're right. The attacker was walking down the street.
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Speaker 1: He had his helmet on, he said, his motorcycle that
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Speaker 1: broken down. He said, I know some of your neighbors
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Speaker 1: that made Theodore and thetorcycle right, He said, I know X,
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Speaker 1: which was a young female neighbor of Ted Demurs and
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Speaker 1: his wife. Now, what can you tell me about the
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Speaker 1: young female that this guy claims he knows. So apparently
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Speaker 1: he had been acting very strange towards this female. You
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Speaker 1: mean stalking her home. Let let's just call it what
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Speaker 1: it is, stalking, just so you know in your dating future,
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Speaker 1: don't go to a woman's house when she says, don't
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Speaker 1: come to my house. That's called stalking. Not that I
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Speaker 1: think you would do that, Levi, of course, but he
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Speaker 1: didn't just know her. This young woman was considering taking
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Speaker 1: out a tro o Tipperari's training order against Peter Manfredonia. Correct,
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Speaker 1: you are correct, Nancy, And so there he is, you know,
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Speaker 1: to you, doctor Bethany Marshall. People have asked why is
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Speaker 1: Manfredonia in the neighborhood? Did he single out ted demurs
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Speaker 1: to hack him dead with a machete. He was there
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Speaker 1: with a machete hidden in his rucksack backpack, walking toward
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Speaker 1: the woman's house. That's where he was going. People say, why, well,
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Speaker 1: nothing good when the guys walk into your house with
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Speaker 1: a machete, that's not good, Nancy. And have you seen
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Speaker 1: his picture? He's actually a very nice looking young man.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so a student, oh I do. He
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Speaker 1: just looks fresh faced, he looks innocent. When yet he
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Speaker 1: was preoccupied with this woman and he was stalking her.
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Speaker 1: And what I'm wondering is what is the relationship between
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Speaker 1: the neighbor he hacked to death and the stalking victim,
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Speaker 1: Like did he imagine and that the neighbor had some
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Speaker 1: special or kind relationship with the victim, or had befriended
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Speaker 1: the victim, or was standing in the way of love
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Speaker 1: between you know, getting in the way of between him
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Speaker 1: and the victim. Like what how did he turn all
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Speaker 1: of the rage towards the woman he was talking against,
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Speaker 1: this innocent neighbor who was trying to help him. That's
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Speaker 1: what I would like to understand crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we are talking about a Yukon student who somehow goes
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Speaker 1: from being a double major in business and engineering a
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Speaker 1: football star. I was just making notes about where it
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Speaker 1: was a Nighthawk. He was a Nighthawk football star, and
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Speaker 1: I actually managed to pull up some video of him
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Speaker 1: out on the field, and he honor student, goes to Yukon,
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Speaker 1: makes great grades. And I got to agree with doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall on this. He looks fresh faced. I can't
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Speaker 1: look at him and see him as attractive the way
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Speaker 1: Bethany apparently can because I know too much. But he
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Speaker 1: does look young and fresh faced. How did all that
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Speaker 1: go right down the crapper? That's a technical legal phrase, Jackie.
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Speaker 1: But now he's wanted all across the country. I want
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Speaker 1: to go to justice. Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
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Speaker 1: an author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. It's
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Speaker 1: my understanding. So Demerge gives him a ride, and I
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Speaker 1: think that somewhere along the ride, Demerge figures out who
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Speaker 1: he is. He says, hey, you know, what are you
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Speaker 1: doing in our neighborhood where you headed? What's going on
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Speaker 1: where you're from? And he knows the neighbor girl is
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Speaker 1: considering a t r O. And he puts two and
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Speaker 1: two together and he ends up dead. Tell me this,
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Speaker 1: I don't normally think of somebody carrying a machete and
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Speaker 1: their backpack. What would those injuries look like to the
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Speaker 1: medical examiner? Not a stab wound, but like what Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these are referred to generally in overall terms, to refer
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Speaker 1: to these as sharp force injuries, specifically hacking style injuries. Joscott.
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Speaker 1: I don't like interrupting contrary to what many people think,
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Speaker 1: but I already know it would be hacking injuries. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and I'm to JD Okay, you're the death as investigator.
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Speaker 1: Tell me something I don't know. Well, you know, if
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Speaker 1: we if we think about the way an act hits
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Speaker 1: a piece of wood, for instance, this is going to
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Speaker 1: be rather brutal. Let's think about the construction. We're talking
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Speaker 1: about an instrument. It's called a machete. It has a
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Speaker 1: spine and it's a single edge. It has the spine
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Speaker 1: that's kind of weighted on the top side, and then
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Speaker 1: the blade is lower. This is made specifically for chopping.
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Speaker 1: That's our keyword here, Nancy, and it covers a lot
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Speaker 1: of surface space. These things are generally about twenty four
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Speaker 1: inches in length. You can fit it into a backpack,
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Speaker 1: but more than likely the handles literally going to be
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Speaker 1: hanging out. When you take this thing out and you
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Speaker 1: put it before a victim and you show it to him,
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Speaker 1: it would send a chill up your spine. I can
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Speaker 1: only imagine this poor man. He has to be within
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Speaker 1: arms distance of this fellow, striking distance if you will.
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Speaker 1: Most of the time, in these machete attacks that I've seen,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have multiple strikes all over the body. And Nancy,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't just chop through say, for instance, the vessels themselves,
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Speaker 1: the blood vessels in the body where you're going to
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Speaker 1: bleed a lot. It also has the ability because it's
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Speaker 1: got this weighted backside or spine, to crush bone as well.
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Speaker 1: So it's a very painful event that the victim is
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Speaker 1: going through, and there will be multiple of these just
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Speaker 1: trying to take him. Because you kind of got my
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Speaker 1: attention when you say it's more kin to an axe attack,
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Speaker 1: and you keep talking about the weighted spine, and with
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Speaker 1: the additional weight and amy chetti, it's not like a
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Speaker 1: knife in that it can actually break your bones. I
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Speaker 1: hadn't thought of it like that. I mean, Cloyd Steiger,
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Speaker 1: thirty six years Seattle PD, twenty two homicide. You've ever
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Speaker 1: seen a machette attack? You know, I probably have. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen a murder by one. I've had plenty of
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Speaker 1: axe murders or hatchet murders, but that's a brutal attack,
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Speaker 1: like J. Scott was saying, and a lot of a
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Speaker 1: lot of injuries. Yeah, you're right, Cloyd. You don't see
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Speaker 1: a machete murder every day. And when I hear that,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, it's a shock, not that every other
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Speaker 1: murder is not shocking and upsetting. But you just don't
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Speaker 1: see machette murders every day, main Jack, And you ever know, okay,
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Speaker 1: none of us. And I've prosecuted for so many years,
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Speaker 1: I covered so many cases. That's not your typical murder,
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Speaker 1: as if any murder is typical. But what do you
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Speaker 1: make of a mindset where some body sticks a machete
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Speaker 1: in their rucksack and goes goes on their way. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what is that when I read when I read this story,
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Speaker 1: this is a little tangential, But I grew up in Africa,
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Speaker 1: Central West Africa. My parents were missionaries, and so machetes
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Speaker 1: were commonly used there to you know, hack your way
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Speaker 1: through the forest, or when there were tribal wars, people
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Speaker 1: would hack each other up with machetes. Machete was a
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Speaker 1: tool of war in that part of the world. So
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Speaker 1: when I read this article and I saw that here
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Speaker 1: in the United States somebody tried to hack or did
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Speaker 1: hack somebody up with a machete, my thought was, it's
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Speaker 1: so primitive. It's so when we have access to guns
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Speaker 1: and not lives and all kinds of instruments to name
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Speaker 1: and harm this young man uses a machete, and it
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Speaker 1: makes me wonder. You know, he was in some kind
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Speaker 1: of a mindset, maybe in a psychotic episode. So don't
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Speaker 1: stalking Bethany. I mean, every time there's a murder, you
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Speaker 1: start talking about their mental illness. We don't know that.
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Speaker 1: I know it's been bandied about that he had depression,
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Speaker 1: that he had anxiety. I mean, does anybody not have
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Speaker 1: depression and anxiety? I get depressed, well every time I
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Speaker 1: read a murder case, and I'm anxious all the time
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Speaker 1: because I think the kids are the children are gonna
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Speaker 1: get kidnapped. My point is, I know that's trite approach
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Speaker 1: to serious depression and serious anxiety, but I'm coming from
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Speaker 1: the point of depression and anxiety do not equal insanity
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Speaker 1: under the law. Well, what I was thinking not so
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Speaker 1: much that depression or anxiety would cause him to kill somebody,
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Speaker 1: because obviously people who are depressed do not have the
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Speaker 1: energy to even get themselves out of bed, and people
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Speaker 1: who are anxious are always afraid of getting into trouble.
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Speaker 1: So people with depression and anxiety are generally the last
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Speaker 1: people on the face of the planet who are going
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Speaker 1: to be homicidal. I think what I was plenty to
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Speaker 1: really good Why choice I had not? They don't have
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Speaker 1: the energy? Okay, yeah, but I was wondering the choice
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Speaker 1: of the weapon. That's what I was pointing to is
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Speaker 1: that this guy, who is seemingly so high functioning that
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Speaker 1: he's a double major, becomes so low functioning that he
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Speaker 1: rummages around someone's tool shed and gets a machete. That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm wondering, the difference between his intellect, the fact
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Speaker 1: that he's a student and he grabs something that takes
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Speaker 1: such a huge amount of force in order to murder
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Speaker 1: another person. And then what that said to me is
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Speaker 1: that he did not just set out to kill. He
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Speaker 1: set out to destroy, to name and to disfigure, which
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Speaker 1: is often what we see with stalkers, that they want
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Speaker 1: to destroy the beauty and the attractiveness of the victim.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he wanted to chop her head, or her face
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Speaker 1: or her hands so that she would no longer be
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Speaker 1: attractive in society. And then this poor neighbor somehow got
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Speaker 1: caught up in this and got in the way. And
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Speaker 1: of course there's something there's a whole another mindset to
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Speaker 1: a knife or a blade attack, which this is more
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Speaker 1: akin to an axe attack, as Joseph Scott Morgan has
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Speaker 1: pointed out, because you're not standing at a distance firing
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Speaker 1: like you're playing a video machine. You are up close
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Speaker 1: and personal. The blood spatters on you, you feel the
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Speaker 1: bone crunch, you're wielding the machete. It's a whole another animal.
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Speaker 1: But he didn't stop. Take a listen to our friends
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Speaker 1: at w FSB three Connected State Police. On Sunday May
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, at six forty three am, Derby Police Department
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Speaker 1: received a call reporting of an abandoned vehicle that appeared
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Speaker 1: to have been involved in a motor vehicle accident. At
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Speaker 1: six fifty eight am, Troop C and Talland received a
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Speaker 1: call from Derby Police Department reporting that the abandoned vehicle
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Speaker 1: was registered in the town of Willington, which was close
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Speaker 1: to the initial homicide. On Friday May twenty second, troopers
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Speaker 1: responded to the vehicle owner's address to conduct a well
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Speaker 1: being check. Upon arrival, they learned the suspect had committed
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Speaker 1: a home invasion Sunday morning and stole multiple firearms with
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Speaker 1: the homeowners vehicle, which was located in the area of
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Speaker 1: Osbourndale State Park in Derby. At seven thirty four am.
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Speaker 1: Multiple agencies responded to the Osbourndale Park area and began
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Speaker 1: an extensive search for the suspect. Crime stories with Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a twenty three year old honor student
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Speaker 1: out of Yukon double major business and engineering, football star
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Speaker 1: with the Nighthawks in high school, coincidentally living in the
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Speaker 1: same neighborhood as Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza. We're talking
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Speaker 1: about Peter Manfredonia who then goes on the run. Now,
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Speaker 1: what we're hearing right there, Levi Page, is that he
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Speaker 1: leaves Willington, Connecticut area where the first incident take place
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Speaker 1: took place, took place where Demurs is murdered with machette,
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Speaker 1: the neighbor ends up eighty six year old guy. That's
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Speaker 1: a whole other mindset right there, attacking the elderly. I mean,
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Speaker 1: when I look at my mom's struggling, she's about to
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Speaker 1: turn eighty nine, struggling to walk, struggling to sit up,
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Speaker 1: the thought of hurting her and she's so fragile. What
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Speaker 1: mindset is it that you attack an eighty six year
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Speaker 1: old man with a machete. He's in serious condition right now.
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Speaker 1: But then Manfredonia moves on. He moves on from the
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Speaker 1: Demire's attack to Derby, Connecticut nearby, and we find out
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Speaker 1: leave by page there seems to be a home invasion
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Speaker 1: where the car, three long guns, a pistol, and food
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Speaker 1: are taken. Tell me about that. Yes, so, Nancy, he
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Speaker 1: went from he went to Derby, Connecticut, which was about
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Speaker 1: sixty miles away from the first attacks, and that is
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Speaker 1: where he invaded a home, stole guns, ammunition, and food.
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Speaker 1: You know, I just thought of something, Ashley, Will got
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Speaker 1: nobody's considered this. We don't hear very much about that
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Speaker 1: second home invasion because we go from the female object
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Speaker 1: of desire and her not having a tro o demerged death.
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Speaker 1: Then we skip to the next violent crime victims. But
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Speaker 1: that home invasion right there, Ashley, how did he know?
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Speaker 1: Did he know these people? Because he knows? Does he
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Speaker 1: know he can go in there and find guns? It
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Speaker 1: seems like a very calculated home invasion, Ashley. You know,
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Speaker 1: it does on one hand to me because of the
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Speaker 1: gun piece. But on the other hand, Nancy, for him
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Speaker 1: to start all of this with a machete, which is
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Speaker 1: that I would argue an instrument of opportunity right, most
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Speaker 1: of us don't go out and know where to get
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Speaker 1: a machete. I then think I'm not convinced he was
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Speaker 1: that deliberate. I think he did anything and everything he
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Speaker 1: wanted to do, and he wanted to go in this
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Speaker 1: home invasion, and they happen to have guns. I can't
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Speaker 1: cont more of what I think has happened. Well, as
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, his crime spree. This honor student
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Speaker 1: heads on, take a listen to WF s B three.
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Speaker 1: Various assets were deployed to include additional patrol, troopers, aviation support,
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Speaker 1: multiple K nine teams, are drone unit, tactical teams, negotiators
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Speaker 1: and detectives. At eight fifty three am, a reverse call
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Speaker 1: was sent out to alert residents of the situation. At
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Speaker 1: nine fifty one, State Police notified the public via statewide
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Speaker 1: social media that the suspect may be in Derby and
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Speaker 1: believed to be armed with multiple firearms. At eleven o
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Speaker 1: four am, Derby Police received a nine one one call
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Speaker 1: requesting a well being well being checked for an individual
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Speaker 1: on Roosevelt Drive. Upon checking the home, Nicholas Eisley was
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Speaker 1: found deceased. A two thousand and sixteen black volks Wagon
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Speaker 1: Jetta was taken from that Roosevelt resident Roosevelt Drive residence,
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Speaker 1: and it was also discovered an individual was abducted from
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Speaker 1: the residence. That's our friend Christine gel Timas speaking with
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Speaker 1: w FSB three. Now we have the second homicide victim.
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Speaker 1: You've got one eighty six year old in the hospital
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Speaker 1: whose life is hanging by a thread, and now a
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Speaker 1: young female has been abducted Eisley's girlfriend. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: now to John Lemley Crime Online. Around five thirty am
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, May twenty fourth, the day before Memorial Day,
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Speaker 1: Nick Eisley's downstairs neighbors are awakened by loud noises. Their
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Speaker 1: ceiling shakes as if somewhat has been slammed on the floor.
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Speaker 1: Then there's a loud bang, the sound of a girl screaming,
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Speaker 1: and two people arguing. It all lasts about five or
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Speaker 1: six minutes, then stops. The downstairs neighbors say they consider
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Speaker 1: calling police, but decide it was just an argument and
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Speaker 1: go back to sleep. But someone else had heard the
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Speaker 1: commotion and calls nine one one. When Connecticut State Police
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Speaker 1: arrived at the couple's apartment, they found Nick dead, but
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Speaker 1: Shannon Eisley's living girlfriend was nowhere to be found. We
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Speaker 1: understand that Derby is less than twenty miles away from Willington, Connecticut.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me how to you leave ipage
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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com investigative reporter about Eisley. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: he was an acquaintance of this attacker in high school.
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Speaker 1: They had been friendly, and he went in there and
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Speaker 1: shot him the dead and then kidnapped his girlfriend. You
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Speaker 1: know that's interesting, doctor Bethany Marshall. How people, I was
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Speaker 1: just studying an article about it last night. What happens
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Speaker 1: to you in grammar school and high school seemingly shapes
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Speaker 1: the rest of your life. This is a guy, Manfredonian
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Speaker 1: need from high school. Manfredonia is now in college. He's
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Speaker 1: twenty three. He should be about to graduate in that
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Speaker 1: double major yukon. Why is he seeking out someone murdering
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Speaker 1: them that he knew in high school. Well, I'm wondering
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Speaker 1: if the stocking victim is at the center of this
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Speaker 1: entire story, and if Manfredonia imagined that this high school
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Speaker 1: friend somehow had a relationship with a stalking victim. That's
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Speaker 1: the only thing I could think about. I was reading
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Speaker 1: the wires and I was thinking, why, why a young
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Speaker 1: man in Derby? How did he get drawn into this
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Speaker 1: killing rampage age when the perpetrator was really on the
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Speaker 1: way to this girl that he'd become preoccupied with, and
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Speaker 1: he was stalking and whom ostensibly he wanted to name,
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Speaker 1: and he had a weapon that was so crude and
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Speaker 1: so primitive that he really wanted to do damage to her.
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Speaker 1: But he swerves away from her house and then goes
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Speaker 1: on to Derby to somebody seemingly unrelated. And what I
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Speaker 1: would want to know is, in the perpetrator's mind, did
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Speaker 1: he believe that this twenty three year old young man
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Speaker 1: somehow was in a relationship with the stalking victim. Did
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Speaker 1: he believe that they were connected to each other, almost
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Speaker 1: like a love triangle in his own mind? To ask
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Speaker 1: you Wilcott, judge and trial lawyer, anchor Court TV at
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Speaker 1: ask you Wilcott dot com, Ashley, is he seeking out
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Speaker 1: people that he thinks has have wronged him? For instance,
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Speaker 1: when Demurge is murdered back in Willington, he's on his way.
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Speaker 1: The only person he knows in that neighborhood is the girl,
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Speaker 1: the woman who's he's fixated upon. He's got an obsession
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Speaker 1: with her. Then he travels twenty miles away to a
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Speaker 1: high school acquaintance and murders him and kidnaps his girlfriend.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you You're on the bench all
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Speaker 1: the time, what does this smack off to you? I
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Speaker 1: agree with doctor Bethany Marshall. I think exactly that he
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Speaker 1: had his eye on the prize, so to speak, from
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Speaker 1: his perspective, which was he had some beef with these
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Speaker 1: people from his life, and he did what he had
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Speaker 1: to do to get to those people, and he didn't
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Speaker 1: care what he did along the way to get physically
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Speaker 1: where he needed to get in the first neighborhood, and
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Speaker 1: then he just moved on and ended up shooting and
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Speaker 1: killing a twenty three year old high school friend and
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Speaker 1: kidnapping his girlfriend. I absolutely believe if I were on
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Speaker 1: the bench, that would be the argument of motive by
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Speaker 1: the prosecutor. Crime stories with Nancy Grace and a man
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Speaker 1: hunt that spans four stas you already know of one
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Speaker 1: elderly gentleman hated dead, another high school friend shot dead,
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Speaker 1: and a woman now missing the girlfriend of the high
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Speaker 1: school acquaintance. Take a listen to our friends over an
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Speaker 1: inside edition less Trent. The murder spree began at the
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Speaker 1: start of the Memorial Day weekend when Manfredonia allegedly butchered
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Speaker 1: sixty two year old Ted de Murs with a machete.
29:52
Speaker 1: De Murs was a good samaritan who was offering him
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Speaker 1: a ride that cost him his life. Unfortunately. I spoke
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Speaker 1: to Ted demurs widow and daughter in law, Cindy and
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Speaker 1: Molly Demurs. He always knew how to pull somebody out of,
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Speaker 1: you know, a difficult spot by making them laugh and
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Speaker 1: making them happy. Huge presence. He really was a huge presence.
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Speaker 1: The next slang victim was twenty three year old Nick Eisl,
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Speaker 1: a friend of man Fordonia's. Police say this was the
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Speaker 1: second stop in that brutal crimes free Nick Eisel was
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Speaker 1: upstairs with his girlfriend. Police say that he was brutally murdered,
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Speaker 1: his girlfriend kidnapped. This neighbor lives downstairs. Guys, by this time,
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Speaker 1: of course, please are going out by the family to
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Speaker 1: turn yourself in. Apparently this guy had never been in
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Speaker 1: trouble before. Take a listen now to our friends at
30:47
Speaker 1: WFSB three, a police presser where they are begging for
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Speaker 1: man for Donia to turn himself in. My message is
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Speaker 1: to Peter directly. Peter, We've talked to your family, We've
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Speaker 1: talked to your friends and your roommates. All of them
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Speaker 1: have said the same thing, that this behavior is out
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Speaker 1: of the ordinary for you. We know this is not
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Speaker 1: who you are. Peter. I want you to know that
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Speaker 1: we are continuing our investigation. The one thing we are
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Speaker 1: missing right now is you. We want you to be
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Speaker 1: able to tell your story. We are here to listen
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Speaker 1: to you, your parents, your friends, all of us back
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Speaker 1: here in Connecticut want a peaceful end to this. Your
31:34
Speaker 1: family is hired an attorney on your behalf, and your
31:37
Speaker 1: rights will be safeguarded. We are waiting to hear from you.
31:41
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. Please call nine. Let
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Speaker 1: us know where you are. We want to resolve this
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Speaker 1: in a safe way. Please call us. We are listening.
31:52
Speaker 1: We are waiting here to listen to you. You know
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Speaker 1: I'm listening to what they are saying to doctor Bethany Marsh,
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Speaker 1: what do you make the plea for him to mamfordone
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Speaker 1: to in things peacefully? I mean, is that even possible.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible at all. I think he's
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Speaker 1: on a killing rampage. At this point, Nancy, when I
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Speaker 1: was listening to this, I was thinking about a patient
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Speaker 1: in my Beverly Hills office in her fifties, lovely, professional, poised, calm, cool, collected,
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Speaker 1: and whenever there's a school shooting, she says to me, calmly,
32:28
Speaker 1: you know, I was bullied when I was in high school.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I could go kill the people who
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Speaker 1: bullied me. And it always seems to come from out
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Speaker 1: of the blue. But what we know from risk assessment
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Speaker 1: for violence is that this might be similar to a
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Speaker 1: school shooting or a workplace shooting, where what you see
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Speaker 1: is that the person feels they're what we call injustice collectors.
32:51
Speaker 1: They feel wronged by society. They feel that there's a
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Speaker 1: power and balance between them and other people. They imagine
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Speaker 1: themselves to have been bullied, and they haven't ax to
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Speaker 1: grind and they want to straighten everybody out who they
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Speaker 1: perceived to have slided or injured them along the way.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's the nexus of all these victims.
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Speaker 1: Either a girl who refuses to date him, maybe a
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Speaker 1: friend in high school who I don't know got a
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Speaker 1: position on the football team that he didn't get. People
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Speaker 1: who he thinks were favored or gotten more than he
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Speaker 1: did from the school teachers. But in this case it
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Speaker 1: terms homicidal. And back to your comment about the family
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Speaker 1: pleeing for him to turn himself in peaceably, He's not
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Speaker 1: going to. This is like a murder suicide. He's going
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Speaker 1: to go down trying to kill everybody around him who
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Speaker 1: thinks has wronged him. That's going to be his emo.
33:51
Speaker 1: The hunt is on for Manfredonia. His EMO is very
33:54
Speaker 1: difficult to discern because while his attacks seemingly they are
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Speaker 1: at random people he doesn't know, there are also targets
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Speaker 1: he does know. He didn't know Ted Demurs, he didn't
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Speaker 1: know Isisley's girlfriend. Yet they were tangental collateral damage, tangential
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Speaker 1: to the targets he was focusing on. And then a
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Speaker 1: firefighter steps and take a listen to w FSB Elliott Polakoff,
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Speaker 1: Police and Derty Pennsylvania then said a firefighter spotted a
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Speaker 1: man with a large backpack on Tuesday night. When the
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Speaker 1: firefighter asked the man, who fit the description of Manfredonia,
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Speaker 1: what he was doing, the man fled toward nearby railroad tracks.
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Speaker 1: Then earlier today another photo of Manfredonia. This time at
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Speaker 1: a Seat's Convenience store in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania. Police also reporting
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Speaker 1: today that they had recovered a storm black Hunday Santa
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Speaker 1: fe that Manfredonia was believed to have been driving. Police
34:53
Speaker 1: also released surveillance video saying that Manfredonia had taken an
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Speaker 1: uber to Hagerstown, Maryland, where he remained at large until
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Speaker 1: just over an hour ago. Connecticut State Police have announced
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Speaker 1: that more information on Manfredonia's capture will be provided tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Hagerstown police reported that Manfredonia was taken into custody by
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Speaker 1: the US Marshall's and Washington County Sheriff's Office. There are
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Speaker 1: also reports of a foot chase having taken place, But
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Speaker 1: how did he go down? Here's John Limley Crime Online.
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Speaker 1: University of Connecticut student Peter Manfredonia is accused of killing
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Speaker 1: two people and kidnapping another. The twenty three year old
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Speaker 1: leads police on a six day manhunt, stretching from Connecticut
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Speaker 1: to Maryland. Police describe Manfredonia as being about six foot
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Speaker 1: four inches tall and wearing red sneakers. On the night
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Speaker 1: of Wednesday, May twenty seventh, while being briefed on Manfredonia's description,
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Speaker 1: an investigator points to a man of that height nearby,
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Speaker 1: and the detective delivering the briefing notices his red sneakers.
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Speaker 1: The side view profile of him also matches photos of Manfredonia.
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Speaker 1: The man wanted by cops across the country is a
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Speaker 1: mere twenty feet away. The team immediately goes to Manfredonia
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Speaker 1: with guns drawn. They tell him to get on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Manfredonia cooperates. He also willingly walks law enforcement about two
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Speaker 1: hundred yards away from the arrest site to a black
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Speaker 1: bag with a weapon inside. A motive for the attacks
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Speaker 1: is still unknown. The more we dig into Manfredonia's background,
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Speaker 1: the more questions there are. What we are learning right
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Speaker 1: now is that Manfredonia was captured and is seemingly quote
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Speaker 1: tired and confused, tired and scared. Manfredonia arrested at gunpoint
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Speaker 1: near a Maryland truck stop. He is now a suspect
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Speaker 1: in two homicides and multiple other crimes. But listen to
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Speaker 1: what we learn about Manfredonia's thinking. Take listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend at Inside Edition. Please surrender. It's a heartfelt plea
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Speaker 1: for a University of Connecticut senior to turn himself in
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Speaker 1: before it's too late. Twenty three year old Peter Manfredonia
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Speaker 1: is on the run today, the subject of a nationwide
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Speaker 1: man hunt. Photos obtained by Inside Edition reportedly show ominous
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Speaker 1: scribblings on the wall of his former dorm room. We
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Speaker 1: saw what happened when Adam snapped. Now they see what
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Speaker 1: happens when I snap. That's believed to refer to Adam Lanza,
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Speaker 1: the disturbed young man who slaughtered twenty six people in
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Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook massacre in two thousand and twelve. The
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Speaker 1: Inside Edition obtained video of Manfredonia in his car taken
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Speaker 1: four years ago. Now his family's lawyer is speaking out.
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Speaker 1: Your parents, your sisters, your grandmother, your aunt. You know
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Speaker 1: they love you. They want a safe conclusion to this. Okay,
37:54
Speaker 1: we definitely need a shrink to doctor Bethany Marshall. Inside
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Speaker 1: his dorm room are found scribblings on the wall stating,
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Speaker 1: look what happened when Adam Lansa snapped? See what will
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Speaker 1: happen when I snap? Jump him? This is beginning to
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Speaker 1: form a pattern in my mind. And one of the
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Speaker 1: things we know about workplace shootings, school shootings, mass murder
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Speaker 1: is usually the homicide is contemplated for some time before
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Speaker 1: the perpetrator actually goes out and kills. We know that
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Speaker 1: almost always they write about the crime, either online in
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Speaker 1: a diary, they start emailing and texting people. The fact
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Speaker 1: that he did it on his dorm room wall means
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Speaker 1: he could have been in some kind of a manic state.
38:42
Speaker 1: I don't mean that that's an excuse for homicide, but
38:45
Speaker 1: he was a little disorganized in his attempts, meaning a machete,
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Speaker 1: walking down a road, riding on a dorm room wall,
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Speaker 1: and then days and it confused afterwards, and I am
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Speaker 1: wondering if they're saying he was depressed. He put on
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Speaker 1: some kind of a medication that also flipped him into
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Speaker 1: a manic state. That's not uncommon for people who are
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Speaker 1: depressed to be put on an anidepressant, and then that
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Speaker 1: unleashes an underlined bipolar condition. But again, that wouldn't make
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Speaker 1: him homicidal. It just means that this fifth of what
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Speaker 1: we know about so many different shootings right now, evaluations
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Speaker 1: being done to determine his state of mind, his mental capacity.
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Speaker 1: As the victim's families mourn, we wait as justice Unfalds.
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Speaker 1: Peter Manfredonia behind Bars, Nancy Grace crime Story signing off
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,