Latest / Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott / Polling Reveals Some Pretty Horrible Ideas Some Young People Carry
Transcript
- 0:03Speaker 1: Five past the hour.
- 0:05Speaker 2: It is the third hour of show 5695 of the
- 0:09Speaker 2: Morning Show with Preston Scott. We will hit show 5700
- 0:14Speaker 2: next week.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Go crazy. My goodness gracious. Balloons, party favors. No, I'm
- 0:19Speaker 1: just kidding. We're not going to have any of that.
- 0:21Speaker 1: We're going to do another good show. No, no, no. No, please, please.
- 0:26Speaker 2: The Morning Show band can just put the instruments away.
- 0:29Speaker 2: We don't need any fanfare.
- 0:31Speaker 1: No music. No pomp or circumstance necessary. Yeah.
- 0:35Speaker 2: We are joined, though, by our friend Justin Haskins. He
- 0:38Speaker 2: is the founder, senior fellow at OurRepublic.org. It's Our-Republic.org. Justin,
- 0:45Speaker 2: how are you?
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'm doing well, sir. How are you?
- 0:49Speaker 2: Well, you know, the polling that you shared with me,
- 0:57Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me because I knew this. I knew
- 1:01Speaker 2: it in my deepest, darkest part of my body, knew
- 1:05Speaker 2: all of this was true. And I suppose in some crazy,
- 1:09Speaker 2: weird way, seeing it in black and white validates some
- 1:13Speaker 2: suspicions I've had. But I think our listeners are going
- 1:16Speaker 2: to be shocked by the view that young voters and
- 1:19Speaker 2: Democrats have of Sharia law because I've spent a lot
- 1:23Speaker 2: of time on it.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So I had a suspicion, which is why
- 1:28Speaker 3: I wrote the poll and worked with Rasmussen Reports to
- 1:31Speaker 3: do this national survey. But this is part of a
- 1:35Speaker 3: larger polling series that I've been working on for many,
- 1:38Speaker 3: many years. It started when I was back at Heartland
- 1:41Speaker 3: and at the Heartland Institute and now with my own organization,
- 1:44Speaker 3: Our Republic, where I test voters on issues. to determine
- 1:50Speaker 3: just how radical, especially younger people have become, but all voters.
- 1:55Speaker 3: And my ongoing theory is that it's getting worse and
- 1:58Speaker 3: worse and worse. And this poll that I did on
- 2:02Speaker 3: Sharia law sort of proves that. So just right off
- 2:07Speaker 3: the jump, we asked voters, national survey, likely voters, so
- 2:11Speaker 3: not just registered voters, but these are people who said
- 2:13Speaker 3: they're going to vote in the upcoming election. Do you
- 2:16Speaker 3: have a positive or negative opinion about Sharia? And we
- 2:20Speaker 3: told them what Sharia law was before we asked these questions.
- 2:23Speaker 3: So we gave them a neutral definition, and then we
- 2:26Speaker 3: asked them. And the bad– well, it's all bad news
- 2:30Speaker 3: for the most part. It was 21 percent of all
- 2:35Speaker 3: likely voters, so not just young people, 21 percent of
- 2:37Speaker 3: all likely voters said mostly positive or somewhat positive, 21 percent.
- 2:43Speaker 3: But then when you start breaking it down by age,
- 2:45Speaker 3: what you see is that older voters, 40 and older,
- 2:50Speaker 3: only 5% very positive, 11% somewhat positive. So that's 16%.
- 2:56Speaker 3: The younger you go, it gets much, much higher. So
- 3:00Speaker 3: 18 to 24-year-olds, it's 43%. 25 to 29-year-olds, It is 39%,
- 3:08Speaker 3: 30 to 35-year-olds, it's 36%, and so on and so forth.
- 3:15Speaker 3: So you're looking at roughly 40% of young voters have
- 3:20Speaker 3: a positive view of Sharia law. And then all the
- 3:23Speaker 3: other questions we ask about Sharia, you see similar kinds
- 3:26Speaker 3: of numbers. They're lower because the questions get more radical.
- 3:30Speaker 3: But it's a similar phenomenon. Young people, a huge chunk
- 3:33Speaker 3: of them, have a very positive view of Sharia. And
- 3:37Speaker 3: it's clear they don't understand it totally. But even when
- 3:40Speaker 3: you ask them some pretty crazy questions, they still seem
- 3:44Speaker 3: to support the crazy answer.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Is that because, I mean, if you step back and are,
- 3:51Speaker 2: I'd like to think of myself as being able to
- 3:54Speaker 2: step back and be fairly objective, right? Where would a
- 3:57Speaker 2: young person ever get taught anything about Sharia? Certainly not
- 4:02Speaker 2: in the public school system, unless they're getting inundated with
- 4:06Speaker 2: a pamphlet that's being allowed more and more on public campuses.
- 4:09Speaker 2: But our churches don't talk about it. Our politicians don't
- 4:13Speaker 2: talk about it. It's taboo.
- 4:14Speaker 1: You're not allowed to.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I believe that this question,
- 4:22Speaker 3: the results of this question and all the other questions
- 4:24Speaker 3: about this, all stems from this culture that has been
- 4:29Speaker 3: taught to them, that basically anything that is not traditional
- 4:35Speaker 3: Americanism is a good thing. And so I think if
- 4:38Speaker 3: we had asked about Buddhism or about Hinduism or something,
- 4:42Speaker 3: we would have gotten high results for that, too. Maybe
- 4:45Speaker 3: even higher, because you don't have all the negative, you know,
- 4:48Speaker 3: terrorism stuff related to those religions. Sure.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Back with Justin Haskins of OurRepublic.org. Justin, to follow up
- 4:58Speaker 2: on the last set of questions, I came across an
- 5:00Speaker 2: interesting comment that was posted after a former Iranian Islamic,
- 5:07Speaker 2: former Islamic Iranian, warned a city commission somewhere in this
- 5:14Speaker 2: country of the dangers of what they were allowing gain
- 5:16Speaker 2: a foothold. And he was unsparing, but there was a
- 5:19Speaker 2: comment underneath and it said, All the federal government needs
- 5:23Speaker 2: to do is make a statement establishing that any religion
- 5:28Speaker 2: that punishes apostasy with death or punishes apostasy in any
- 5:34Speaker 2: form is not a religion, it's a cult, and therefore
- 5:37Speaker 2: is not covered as a religion worthy of 501c3 exemption status, etc.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Your thoughts?
- 5:45Speaker 2: Uh.
- 5:45Speaker 3: interesting i don't i don't think that court would allow
- 5:48Speaker 3: for it ultimately i think probably the supreme court the
- 5:52Speaker 3: position that they've taken other federal courts uh... i don't
- 5:56Speaker 3: think they would they would hold to that but i
- 5:58Speaker 3: do think it is a fair point that if you
- 6:01Speaker 3: take the more fundamentalist uh... you know view uh... islamic
- 6:06Speaker 3: view that you have to have religious test for various
- 6:11Speaker 3: things that you do in society, that women have less
- 6:14Speaker 3: rights than men on all sorts of different questions, the
- 6:17Speaker 3: way that they do, I mean, all sorts of things.
- 6:22Speaker 3: I think, and not just apostasy, it's totally incompatible with
- 6:26Speaker 3: the Constitution, and you really can't hold public office in
- 6:30Speaker 3: the United States and hold to a fundamentalist view within Islam.
- 6:35Speaker 3: You could hold to some kind of reformist view and
- 6:38Speaker 3: be a Muslim and say, well, I I think that
- 6:40Speaker 3: was for a different time, and I don't agree with
- 6:43Speaker 3: all those things. And I think you should probably say that.
- 6:47Speaker 3: That's the condition of being sworn into office, at the
- 6:50Speaker 3: very least, because the other views really are clearly. completely
- 6:55Speaker 3: incompatible with it. So I do think it's a fair
- 6:59Speaker 3: thing for us to explore. I'm an absolutist when it
- 7:04Speaker 3: comes to individual liberty and religious freedom, and so it's
- 7:07Speaker 3: really difficult to navigate this. But there's no question that
- 7:11Speaker 3: if you believe some of the things that are part
- 7:13Speaker 3: of fundamentalist Islam, you really can't Your views are incompatible
- 7:19Speaker 3: with the Constitution of the United States.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yeah, see, and as a guy who spent time studying,
- 7:23Speaker 2: reading the Koran and the Hadith, I would argue back
- 7:28Speaker 2: that it's not a religion because of the reasons we've mentioned,
- 7:32Speaker 2: plus the fact that it's a system of governance. It's
- 7:35Speaker 2: a system of policing. It's an administrative system. It is,
- 7:38Speaker 2: and I think you correctly identify, it is incompatible with
- 7:41Speaker 2: the Constitutional Republic. But I think the country's going to
- 7:44Speaker 2: have to have the conversation about stripping it of its religious...
- 7:48Speaker 2: It's the only religion in the world that I know
- 7:50Speaker 2: of that does punish people who don't believe with death
- 7:54Speaker 2: or having to pay a tribute.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not aware of any others that do that either.
- 7:59Speaker 3: It's also one of the religions that most closely ties
- 8:03Speaker 3: government action with religion itself as part of the actual religion,
- 8:08Speaker 3: not just the interpretation of it, but... You know, and
- 8:11Speaker 3: that's what makes it so incompatible with the Constitution. And,
- 8:14Speaker 3: you know, some of the other questions, real quick, that
- 8:17Speaker 3: we asked to people, you know, we asked, would you
- 8:20Speaker 3: support a law that requires public schools to teach about
- 8:23Speaker 3: the benefits of Sharia law? And a quarter of young
- 8:27Speaker 3: people said that they supported that. Older people did not.
- 8:31Speaker 3: If a majority of people in an American city, town,
- 8:34Speaker 3: or state said that they wanted Sharia law, would you
- 8:38Speaker 3: support a proposal that would allow Sharia to become the
- 8:41Speaker 3: legal code for all citizens in that town, city, or state?
- 8:45Speaker 3: A quarter of young people said yes to that. Only
- 8:48Speaker 3: 2% of people 40-plus said yes to it. So it's
- 8:51Speaker 3: a lot of radical stuff in the poll, not just positive,
- 8:55Speaker 3: you know, whether people view it positively or not.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an embrace of just crazy in there. We
- 9:01Speaker 2: got two more things in polling that's been done. OurRepublic.org,
- 9:07Speaker 2: the website, you can see the polling there and get
- 9:09Speaker 2: more in-depth intel. More with Justin Haskins when we come back.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Talking with Justin Haskins, founder of OurRepublic.org, our hyphen. symbol hyphen, republic.org,
- 9:26Speaker 2: and polling done coordinated with Rasmussen Reports. The second of
- 9:31Speaker 2: the polls I want to reference, shocking numbers of voters
- 9:35Speaker 2: would support dismantling Israel in exchange for what?
- 9:41Speaker 3: In support for lower gas prices, oil and gas prices,
- 9:46Speaker 3: and replacing it with a new Palestinian state. nation well
- 9:51Speaker 3: well that i get what the american voters get out
- 9:53Speaker 3: of it to the war in iran would end that
- 9:55Speaker 3: was also part of the question So the American voter
- 9:58Speaker 3: is asked, you would get low oil and gas prices,
- 10:02Speaker 3: and the war in Iran would be over. And in exchange,
- 10:06Speaker 3: we would completely dismantle Israel and replace it with a
- 10:09Speaker 3: Palestinian-led state. Would you take that deal? And 19% of
- 10:15Speaker 3: likely voters, one in five, said yes to that. A
- 10:18Speaker 3: quarter of Democrats said yes to that. And the unsures
- 10:21Speaker 3: is the really scary thing. So 19% of all voters
- 10:25Speaker 3: said yes. 22% said unsure. That's crazy. Among Democrats, it
- 10:30Speaker 3: was 24% who said yes. 33% said not sure. That's
- 10:31Speaker 3: over 55%. It's 57%. Republicans, it was only 16% who
- 10:33Speaker 3: said yes. 12% unsure, and independence was a little bit
- 10:45Speaker 3: higher on the unsures, but right in line with the Republicans.
- 10:47Speaker 3: So very scary.
- 10:52Speaker 2: And so the idea that in taking these actions, those
- 10:56Speaker 2: that support it are unsure, they're not swayed by the
- 10:59Speaker 2: idea that Jews have no homeland.
- 11:03Speaker 3: If they can get low oil and gas prices out
- 11:06Speaker 3: of it, I guess they think that it's worth the trade.
- 11:10Speaker 3: It's terrifying. I mean, truly, what amazes me about this
- 11:14Speaker 3: is this view is more popular among liberal people, progressives, socialists, etc.
- 11:21Speaker 3: But these are the same people that are always talking
- 11:23Speaker 3: about how we have to treat historically disenfranchised people better.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And the Jews are the most discriminated against group of
- 11:35Speaker 3: people in world history. And the whole reason they have
- 11:40Speaker 3: the nation of Israel is because of the Holocaust and
- 11:42Speaker 3: World War II. That's the biggest reason that it exists.
- 11:46Speaker 3: And apparently that doesn't matter to people who want low
- 11:49Speaker 3: oil and gas prices and don't like Israel anymore.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Yeah, the lack of understanding of the history of the
- 11:56Speaker 2: region is a little staggering and a little mind-numbing to me.
- 12:00Speaker 2: But Justin, what's also interesting is you've got another poll
- 12:04Speaker 2: set of questions out there that seem to illustrate that
- 12:09Speaker 2: there's a group of people in there that really don't
- 12:11Speaker 2: care about DR or independent, socialist, whatever. They just want
- 12:17Speaker 2: affordability to be handled.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So one of the things we asked
- 12:23Speaker 3: voters was, are you going to vote for a Republican
- 12:26Speaker 3: or are you likely to vote for a Democrat? And
- 12:28Speaker 3: then if you said Democrat, for example, we then asked
- 12:32Speaker 3: a series of questions like, if You really believe, as
- 12:37Speaker 3: a Democrat, that the Republican candidate running had the best
- 12:42Speaker 3: plan for fixing affordability or fixing the cost of housing
- 12:46Speaker 3: or there are three or four different versions of it.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Would you be willing to switch your vote and vote
- 12:51Speaker 3: for the opposite party? And incredibly, 19% of Democrat likely
- 12:57Speaker 3: voters said that they would switch to voting for a
- 13:01Speaker 3: Republican if they thought the Republican had the best plan
- 13:03Speaker 3: for affordability. It was close on housing as well. Those
- 13:07Speaker 3: were by far the top two options. And with young people,
- 13:11Speaker 3: it was really astounding. It was roughly 40% to 50%
- 13:17Speaker 3: of people under the age of 35, depending on which
- 13:19Speaker 3: demographic specifically you're looking at, of young Democrats who said
- 13:23Speaker 3: that they would do that. Some of that's probably the
- 13:25Speaker 3: sample size is a little bit too small there, but
- 13:28Speaker 3: I think it illustrates an important point. A huge chunk
- 13:32Speaker 3: of young voters, including young Democrats, say, yes, I'll vote
- 13:36Speaker 3: for anybody. I will vote for anybody who will fix
- 13:38Speaker 3: the affordability problem. And right now they see the socialist
- 13:41Speaker 3: wing of the Democrat Party, apparently, as the one most
- 13:45Speaker 3: concerned about that, most likely to fix it. And that's
- 13:48Speaker 3: why you see socialists doing so well. But there's no
- 13:51Speaker 3: loyalty there.
- 13:53Speaker 2: I'm curious, when you got all of this back, of
- 13:57Speaker 2: all of the polling that we've talked about this morning,
- 14:01Speaker 2: what resonated with your soul the most, where you were
- 14:06Speaker 2: just really disturbed by what you learned?
- 14:11Speaker 3: Well, I had a sneaking suspicion about all the Sharia
- 14:15Speaker 3: law stuff that we had talked about. But I mean,
- 14:18Speaker 3: it is always a little soul-fucking when I do these polls,
- 14:21Speaker 3: and you come back with a quarter of young people
- 14:26Speaker 3: taking a view like that. The question about dismantling Israel,
- 14:30Speaker 3: that one was probably the most disheartening for me, just because,
- 14:34Speaker 3: I mean, the history of what has happened to the
- 14:37Speaker 3: Jews and everything else, it's just terrifying. But what people
- 14:41Speaker 3: need to understand is It's not just about the top
- 14:44Speaker 3: overlying numbers. The most important thing here is that the
- 14:48Speaker 3: answers are all crazier with younger people and not just
- 14:51Speaker 3: 18 to 24-year-olds, but in people in their early 30s too.
- 14:55Speaker 3: This group as a whole in the next 10 to
- 14:58Speaker 3: 15 years is going to be the group that decides
- 15:01Speaker 3: every election. And they have taken a giant chunk of them,
- 15:05Speaker 3: some of the most extreme views on almost any kind
- 15:08Speaker 3: of question. All the other polls I've done on the
- 15:11Speaker 3: economy and socialism, et cetera, same sorts of answers. And
- 15:14Speaker 3: so we're entering a very dangerous period of history because
- 15:17Speaker 3: we have neglected to teach our young people the truth
- 15:20Speaker 3: about civics and history and the value in American exceptionalism
- 15:25Speaker 3: and the value of the Constitution and individual rights. And
- 15:27Speaker 3: we're about to reap what we have sown. And it
- 15:31Speaker 3: is very, very dangerous time. And we have to rapidly
- 15:34Speaker 3: focus on that particular problem or else I don't know
- 15:38Speaker 3: if this country can survive the next 50 years.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Justin, as always, I appreciate you carving out time for
- 15:43Speaker 2: me each and every month, and thanks for all you're
- 15:46Speaker 2: doing through OurRepublic.org.
- 15:48Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. Take care. God bless.