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Josh Allen talks finding his Mamba Mentality, learning from the OGs, attending Cam’s Sack Summit · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: Here we are on off the Edge with me, your
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  Speaker 1: host Cam Jordan, and I'm just overly blessed, overly happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here in Las Vegas at the annual Sack Summit,
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  Speaker 1: which has become a thing now you know me, Von Miller,
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  Speaker 1: Max Crosby, first collaboration. We're gonna take off from here.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here with my guy, Josh Allen. When
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  Speaker 1: I say paid is an understatement. We're not gonna put
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  Speaker 1: numbers out there, but he just got paid this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: We are so excited for him to join the show.
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  Speaker 1: When I say pro bowler, we're talking about Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: When I say, you know a guy who had seventeen
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  Speaker 1: and a half sacks this past season, a threshold that
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  Speaker 1: is hard to get to. You know, there's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of seasons you can put together, have ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Once you get beyond that fifteen, you get in a real,
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  Speaker 1: real rare air and you hit seventeen a half marks
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen half sacks for the mark this is past season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say congratulations on your congratulations on getting paid,
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything you've done at this point, and I
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  Speaker 1: know there's so much more, but I appreciate you tapping
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  Speaker 1: in on the.
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  Speaker 2: Show Man to be here with your big bro. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed you've been to Saxon before, right, I have
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  Speaker 1: ten years ago, I'll say I was one of them years.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all these all these sex I'm start
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  Speaker 1: to blend together. I was like, you've definitely been here,
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  Speaker 1: and was it three years ago? And now you're coming
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  Speaker 1: back you know where where it's bigger and better than ever.
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  Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Communication? Uh, blending with the guys, learning, growing and
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  Speaker 2: also spreading my knowledge and wealth things that I you know,
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  Speaker 2: learned throughout these years that I could pass on the
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  Speaker 2: other guys, spreading wealth.
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  Speaker 1: Can I get a dollar wealth, the well wealth of
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  Speaker 1: of knowledge? Got excited?
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  Speaker 2: I can help you make some money, you know, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Uh speaking of you, you know, just the the
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  Speaker 1: success that you've had, have you have? You had a
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  Speaker 1: big spurs yet I know you got a fami. I
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  Speaker 1: know you got kids beyond moms, and I know you
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  Speaker 1: took care of the fam. I know you got a wife.
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  Speaker 1: He probably got a nice purse out of it.
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  Speaker 2: What did you get you I got a new car. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we'll say double r Oh. I had to get it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh big big, big big dog. Okay, I'm saving that.
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  Speaker 2: What a driver?
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  Speaker 1: Oh does it come with the driver? But does a
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  Speaker 1: double art come with the driver? You gotta sell it separately.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy. You gotta get it separately. But it's easy
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  Speaker 2: to get one, especially in jackson A lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville really small baby. Oh your boy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: When I first got to Jacksonville, my my big homie
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  Speaker 1: Tyson Lululu was drafted. Was that twenty ten first time
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  Speaker 1: I ever got through Jacksonville, was like, there's nothing here.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, that's why it's easy to make people people connections.
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  Speaker 1: Fourteen years later, it actually looks like it's like a
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  Speaker 1: solid city now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's growing. It's definitely grown. With the new stadium
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  Speaker 2: being built to I think that's gonna bring a lot
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  Speaker 2: more revenue, a lot more a lot more money in
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  Speaker 2: the city. Uh, and then bringing the four seasons into
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  Speaker 2: our owner bringing the four seasons in and y'all got
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  Speaker 2: a four seasons in Jacksonville, were making one. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: we're doing something. Man, and you know, hopefully that just
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  Speaker 2: keeps growing and growing for us.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, You got my you got my former d
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  Speaker 1: line coach Ryan Nilsen as your decordinator. Now you've had
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little off season with them. How do
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  Speaker 1: you like him so far?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so far, so good? You know for me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he called the first time. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: he talked about when I talked on the phone with
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  Speaker 2: him was you going forward. That's all I need to hear. Now,
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  Speaker 2: put the ball in my court. Let me beat me
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  Speaker 2: and we can do that. And I think the conversations
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  Speaker 2: that we had he kind of lets you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take a chow because I think in his defense, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the ends need to be need to be elite, you know,
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  Speaker 2: needs to be those guys. And where I'm at and
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  Speaker 2: where my trajectory is going in my career, I can
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  Speaker 2: only see myself going up. So if you allow me
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  Speaker 2: to go right, trust me that I'm gonna go. And
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  Speaker 2: but now this year, man, I did that last year
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  Speaker 2: by myself. Now it's trying to spread that well to
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  Speaker 2: the others. You know. Uh, got Trey who's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Got Eric that's new, and we got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: younger guys that I can kind of like, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: do this movie like this. You know, you got a
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  Speaker 2: monster in the middle, and I'm already knowing. Man, I'm happy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy kid in the store the show.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, you know, it seems like you guys
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  Speaker 1: got a strong collective. You know, a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: ago they paid the wide receiver Kirk. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: they kept They're starting to keep their own you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, how does how does it make you feel
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  Speaker 1: that organization, you know, wants to love the players, wants
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  Speaker 1: to you know, pay their loyalty towards players like you
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it means a lot. Uh. It means we're
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  Speaker 2: going in the right direction. You know, things that haven't
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  Speaker 2: been done in a very long time. You know. For
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  Speaker 2: me to be the first you know, one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollar player in organization, like in the whole organization, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy, but it's a it's a humble experience,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm thankful for that. But we're in
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  Speaker 2: the right directions. We're keeping our top players, our best players,
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  Speaker 2: and our core players as well, so we can continue
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  Speaker 2: to keep building on that, keep bringing the younger guys up.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we put these guys in these roles to
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you played for the Saints, you had none
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  Speaker 2: but young guys and build them up and now you
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  Speaker 2: see them go here, go there. But they helped that
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  Speaker 2: organization build as well. That's all I want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Put my name on the map and never be forgotten
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  Speaker 2: in Jacksonville history, right right, But I mean, just.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your core guys in there. Keeps your locker room
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  Speaker 1: integrity good too, like the vibes, the ability for you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the season, you're going to have adversity, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have those wins by twenty points, some losses by
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  Speaker 1: threes that hurt way more than a blowout loss. But
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  Speaker 1: that core locker room keeps it going. Like, tell me
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  Speaker 1: about that. Tell me about your locker room. How does
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  Speaker 1: it feel? Because you know every locker room is different,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm always intrigued to know, like what is your
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  Speaker 1: locker room feel like? Is there is you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't see any dancing or or like you know, now,
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  Speaker 1: we got.
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  Speaker 2: A cool locked room. We got a lot of young guys.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of two things that we I think
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  Speaker 2: we need to implement this year moving forward to build
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  Speaker 2: that team chemistry. I think right now, we too were
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  Speaker 2: too blocked off, you know where we got one one
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  Speaker 2: one group of like D line in one area, old
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  Speaker 2: line another area. I think we need to mix that up.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and just just know you know your teammates and
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  Speaker 2: I think that kind of bang. I think that would
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  Speaker 2: bring a lot more chemistry with each other offense and defensively.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, we got a young locker room.
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  Speaker 2: We'd like to have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Who gets control of the ox?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I keep boom box, you know, so I
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  Speaker 2: usually but I like the old schools and so if
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  Speaker 2: I'm on it, you know, I'm usually playing cards with
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  Speaker 2: the guys and I'm playing you know, my jams and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's old school for you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: You were born in.
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  Speaker 2: The oh So I like you know, I like a
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  Speaker 2: little Luther, you know, I like a little I like
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  Speaker 2: a little music soul child. You know, I like the
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  Speaker 2: viz bro. I like to keep it cause we all
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  Speaker 2: we go out on the field. We listened in that rap.
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  Speaker 2: We go in the weight room, were listening in the rap.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all this stops rolling around kind of need
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  Speaker 2: it in the locker room. Just keep a nice chill vibe.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody talking vibbing out. Like I said, we're playing cards.
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  Speaker 2: We got a basketball hoop. You know, we got a
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  Speaker 2: nice little you know.
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  Speaker 1: Game room.
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  Speaker 2: Guys go chilling. We do jack. You mean, like like
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  Speaker 2: I said, we got it's like a little lounge, a
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  Speaker 2: little LOUNGEO. We got pers fours, golf simulator, pink pong table. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: come on, man, we're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Okay, I love it. I love it. I mean, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we know obviously you're you're you're a leader on the team.
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  Speaker 1: You lead by example. What's it like to have you know,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawren's former number one overall pick from Clemson. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what is he like as a quarterback? I mean when
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  Speaker 1: I when I came to the league, I had Drew
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  Speaker 1: Brees and like so the epitome of a leader. I
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  Speaker 1: know exactly what that looked like. You know, for you
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  Speaker 1: you come in and then you get you get Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: and he clearly is a clear cut got to be
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  Speaker 1: a leader. The way he plays, the way he you know,
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  Speaker 1: implements his style to the game. What is he like
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  Speaker 1: as a leader.
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I can say about Trevor man is
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  Speaker 2: the consistency that he has with the routine. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think the more older I get is you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to have a routine, but you can't be
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  Speaker 2: a robot to that routine. But you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a routine. And I remember, you know, his second year
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  Speaker 2: and he just wasn't playing as good every morning because
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  Speaker 2: we're like early birds. So I come in there, he
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  Speaker 2: right there. So it's like seeing that every single day
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  Speaker 2: from now, from then to now, it's consistent. You know,
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  Speaker 2: He's always had the same demeanor of like, we gonna
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  Speaker 2: get it. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna command this,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna take control, you know, but we just have
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  Speaker 2: to keep seasoning the moments. And but so for me,
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  Speaker 2: just to see him stay disciplined, to see him stay
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  Speaker 2: locked in Lilliam State, trusted in his craft, and for him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I like to see that. And uh, he's
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  Speaker 2: been doing that ever since. And I know it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: pay off. You know. I think he's gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: you know, breakout year this year, and I think he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna lead us the right way and lead us to
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  Speaker 2: you know a lot of victories.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean, yeah, that the AFCU out there
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  Speaker 1: scrapping ya ya y'all y'a heavy sacks with backs, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's uh, it's the D line, you know how
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  Speaker 2: I'll say the d lin Ley.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Battle of Trench is really gonna play
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  Speaker 1: a part. And I think I think the investments y'all
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  Speaker 1: made the last time y'all had success into into the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs was you know, back when it was Saxonville. Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: So like what y'all what y'all creative? With the addition
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  Speaker 1: of Eric Armstead, y'all have potential to get back get
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  Speaker 1: back to it, you know. Like it's like I said
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  Speaker 1: in the intro, you had seventeen seventeen and a half
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  Speaker 1: sacks this past season. Uh, how do you talk this
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  Speaker 1: last season in terms of production?
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think last year, man, last
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  Speaker 2: year was a difficulty. It wasn't. It was difficult for me,
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  Speaker 2: you know because I feel like I couldn't rely on
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  Speaker 2: anybody else mentally. So it's like two people, three people communication,
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  Speaker 2: no communication. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna meet the
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  Speaker 2: band in front of me. I studied this dude since,
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  Speaker 2: uh since since July, since June. You know, I know
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  Speaker 2: my matchup and I'm gonna work this dude in front
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  Speaker 2: of me. And I think, you know, that gave me
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  Speaker 2: a lot of success individually, but I think it kind
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  Speaker 2: of I could where I could have spreaded that wealth
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  Speaker 2: all over the line and build this person and build
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  Speaker 2: that person up. I think it was just like I
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  Speaker 2: did it by myself. Now let me see if I
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  Speaker 2: can do this, but added add the value to everybody else,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and bring them to my level. Don't I
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  Speaker 2: won't go to nobody else's level. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: bring everybody up to my level. And obviously adding Eric,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's been played at the high level for
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  Speaker 2: so long, played with guys that played at the high level,
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  Speaker 2: play with Nick defensive play of the Year, so he
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  Speaker 2: knows what that work ethic is and he knows what
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  Speaker 2: that competitive is. So it's like, if I can bring
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  Speaker 2: that to my other guys and take more control right
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  Speaker 2: there the CEFI, we go as a whole D line now.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I say, like AFC South young quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we got guys really throwing that ball there,
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  Speaker 2: and who's gonna win up front? And if you look
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  Speaker 2: at every super Bowl. You know who who's taking over.
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  Speaker 1: You know the heats and you see which one's gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: And I told him, was that right? I want to
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  Speaker 2: be the best one. We're gonna be the best D
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  Speaker 2: line and we're gonna be the best D line. But
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  Speaker 2: I want to be the best one. So you know
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  Speaker 2: that's my that's my challenge for them, and you know
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  Speaker 2: they accept. They know that. They know they accept that
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  Speaker 2: for me, and I accept that for them as well.
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  Speaker 2: Like Trey, Me and Trey talk all the time. It's
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  Speaker 2: like my little brother, and like he know and I
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  Speaker 2: know he knows, I'm gonna be the top dog Tree.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta come give me well, he said, Josh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be top doll. We're gonna work. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's that competitive edge man. We need to compete.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I want to be the best. You want
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  Speaker 2: to be the best. We want to be the best together,
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  Speaker 2: and we keep we got to keep proving it right.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody can do it one time, everybody, look do it
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  Speaker 2: two times, three times.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I got to get to the world. The
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  Speaker 1: world tries to crown people king over one year. If
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  Speaker 1: you've been in this Lee long enough. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but show me three four years. You can do it
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  Speaker 1: three four years. I believe in the height. If you
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  Speaker 1: do it for one year, anybody can catch a lick. Anybody,
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  Speaker 1: anybody can roll the dice and be amazing off one roll.
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  Speaker 1: Show me if you can continue, you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: you got to keep it like that that building like
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  Speaker 1: and and the greatest thing about you just said is
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  Speaker 1: you know, like i'ma be topped doll, but I want
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  Speaker 1: you to come get me. It's like I used to
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  Speaker 1: tell the d Lion. I'm telling d Lion all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I like, Yo, if y'all can shine as bright as
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  Speaker 1: y'all can, Like if y'all bring in everything y'all do,
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  Speaker 1: y'all be amazing as you can think about how much
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  Speaker 1: more amazing I'm gonna look too, Because like if you say, bro,
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  Speaker 1: if you're if you're a sword and you're your sword
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  Speaker 1: and your sword everybody is what is these gleaming swords
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  Speaker 1: call me Excalibur, Like I'm gonna be like I'm a
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  Speaker 1: king slayer, you know what I'm saying. Like, and you
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: have to have that mentality in this game. So when
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  Speaker 1: you come to it, like I want to make Brian
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  Speaker 1: Bezi the best he can be. I want to be uh,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to make Carl Grant's and
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  Speaker 1: the best that he can be because by doing that,
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  Speaker 1: that base their play, which is gonna push myself to
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  Speaker 1: work even harder.
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  Speaker 2: Sir.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I just want to say, like, what
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  Speaker 1: did you what did you do this differently? You know,
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  Speaker 1: for years previous to this break, this huge monster's here.
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  Speaker 2: You just had uh staying locked in.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I did a lot more reading this past year, my
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  Speaker 2: audio books. Uh, lots more.
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  Speaker 1: Audio books, like books protecting.
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  Speaker 2: Football or just mental mental mindset brooks, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: able to stay locked in, uh, being able to control,
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  Speaker 2: you know, control what you could control. So for me
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  Speaker 2: game days, man, I didn't listen to any music. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I was really big on, you know, if anything was
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  Speaker 2: to happen, I didn't want music to be the reason
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  Speaker 2: why I didn't perform, you know, or it didn't I
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  Speaker 2: didn't play my song. I didn't do this, just like
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  Speaker 2: little things. So it was really big on how mentally
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  Speaker 2: can I be in the game, Like I'm mentally confident.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I studied this dude for so long. I
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  Speaker 2: studied his offense. For so long there was no music.
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  Speaker 1: How did you keep your cane.
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  Speaker 2: A lot there? I'm just breathing, watching the whole time. No,
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  Speaker 2: I get in a dark room. So my first thing,
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  Speaker 2: my people find me a dark room. I get a
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  Speaker 2: dark room. I go in there. I just chill out,
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  Speaker 2: control my thoughts in the stadium, in the stadium, in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Once you once you get to the stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I find you know, my people give me a dark room.
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  Speaker 2: I go in there, and you know, I take a
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  Speaker 2: little nap. I read my book. First of all. I
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  Speaker 2: read my book so I can like get off of football,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: get off of you know, any feeling that I'm about
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: to feel, and just have like a you know, I
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: got better off of reading, you know, and I'm reading
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: things that's that can apply to me in this game.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: So I'm reading these books. I'm taking naps. I listen
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: to a little jazz here. And I got that from Lebron. Uh,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I got that from Brin. I definitely take that from Bro.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: And you stay on the first page I read, Okay,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I read I've been reading this uh Relentlessness by Tim Grover,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: and you know he talks about three areas of people.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: You got a cooler, cleaner, you got a cool you
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: got a cleaner, and you got a closer. I'm a cleaner.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: You know, look.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Cleaner, cleaner. What's the cleaner?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Guy that do it right? You know a guy that
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: do it right half the time, and you got to
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: cooler that guy that's just out there. You know, I
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to. You know they talking about clutch people.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: You know, clutch people come come in clutch moments. I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: want't be a player that come in at all moments.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: And so if I can continue to have that mindset,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: continue to challenge myself, continue to push myself in practice,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: first one on the field, last one to leave. Really
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: doing things that's applying myself to get better during practice.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I do things pre practice to get better
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: during practice, and then I do the things that after
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: practice that I didn't do right in practice. So every
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: day I just feel like I'm getting better. You know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I'm eating right. You know, my family, My family is situated.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I make sure that my wife is you know, stable
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: enough that if I'm not in a house we're covering
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: my body or sleeping in this hyperbarrick, that everything's okay
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and make sure I spend time with my kids and
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: obviously tell them, let them know why I'm doing what
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing. And also I take them with me sometimes,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: so you know, making sure everything in my life is
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: is what it's supposed to be so I can play.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: That's why kids like we had to chill out on
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: the kids.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: You know, three three is a plenty.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: There is a lot.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: It gets to be a lot, especially in season. You know, wife,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you need a date night, we.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Can do day night, Tuesday night. We day nights Tuesday, Tuesday,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: today night.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: You guys do like a defensive line dinner defense.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: So again, so you know, un fortunate. We've been building
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: our house for three years and it just got finished
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: right before I signed my contract. You know, so prior
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: to that, I was like what, I don't know what
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do, you know, like we're gonna sell it,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move here, we gotta do this. And then
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: we get our house done, and then a couple days
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: ago we signed our contract. So it's like this is
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: our future. We built it for our family and so like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and now we got built to where we can entertain,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: like we have spaces for the kids. And then we
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: have people now we can have people over, So I
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: kind of want to That's where he said, take more
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: control and take more lead, come over. You know we
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: did dinners. Yeah, but I want to do more of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: like a chill like come to the crib. Maybe we'll
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: watch the game, maybe watch some tape. You know, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: got a good setup to where I can entertain a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: lot more people, and I want to take more control
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: in that. And you know, this is my team. They
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: pay me to be that guy. Yeah, you know, so
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: it's time to take over.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, act accordingly. Look on our defense. We do defense
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: every defense, dinners every other Thursday, and like it just
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: goes from like the pecking order, ogill pay the you
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: know the so it's now it's me the oldest guy
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in the room. Pay the next time that it just goes,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, from whoever on and then every other week
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the d line will go eat you know. So then
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: so it's always just like camaraderie. It's always like trying
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to figure out how like what motivates my teammates off
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the field, on the field, whatever it is, so I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: can be just have that relatable moment like in game
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if things get huge, it's like all right, bro, Like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I just need you to lock in with me, like
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: we've gone through enough. I know enough about you, like
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I know how to lock you in, you know, like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I feel like those off the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: field moments creates that trust and that camaraderie that you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: sort of need to achieve success in the season. Yes, sir,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: for you to have folks up to the house. Man,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I ain't no way with the kids. It ain't no
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: way only because I know I'm not helping clean nothing.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's why you hire help.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Facts. At the end of the day, my wife gonna
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: look at me like are you helping? And I'm gonna
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: look at her like these hands is broke.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I gotta take I can take the trash help, you know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I do a little dishes, you know. That's why you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: got to have the paper plates, and you throw a
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff away, you know. So we we kind
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of we kind of been planning on this from minute now.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I got you to take out the trash and that's
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: where I take the trash out quick and we got
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: it right to.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It opening doors right there. Hey, I'm big on take
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: off the trash. That's where it stops. Though, this has
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: been here for a while, you're talking to me. I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: love you. I load the dishwashing.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope unloaded, unloaded. I don't know. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just feel like I'm like, why it takes so long?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But loading the dishwasher. Dishwasher?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I said while we was dating,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I said that precedents very Hey, hey, I can take
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the trash out. I ain't got nothing for you after this,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: so I'm stay consistent.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, stay tuned.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So you're being at the sack summit, right,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: How does this? How's this fitting to your goals of improving?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Man? Just I like to learn, I like to see
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: see my already came. I already got questions that I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: want to ask certain people, and you're one of the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: people I wanted to definitely chop it up with on
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just you know how you I know how I break
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: down film, But like, what other tendencies do you look
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: at when you you know, when you're looking at a tackle,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you're looking at an offensive scheme? Like what is what
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: is telltale signs that you can see on film? You know?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Like that's really what I want to get to, you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not big social outside. You know this that you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: if I catch you, I catch you. Just like when
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: we played, y'all, you know, it was my moment. We
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: had a little time. I'm gonna go say what's up?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Told you you know what I'm saying, like, show my
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: respect Clays. And I was with Clays and one thing
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: he told me, Man, if you really love his game,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you gotta respect it. You got to respect the people
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: who paid it for you. So for me, it was like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I've always you know, and I loved the game. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: always loved the game. So for him to say that
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to me, so it's like when I do play against
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: another guy, I have to you know, I respect you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I respect the game. I respect what you've done. Not
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of people have done what you've done. So
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: it was a moment for me to show, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: show show, show show. My value to you is that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I'm coming to get you, bro, and I respect what
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you do and I love it because I want to
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: be there one day.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And that club it's a club for a reason. Come
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: join me. I gotta get push. I'm gonna push this
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: bard over for twenty five thirty sacks and come on
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying that just like it,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and you all got goals.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Because because Ryan, he's been showing me a lot of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: your tape man, and so I've definitely been tapped in
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a lot more so, you know, and I like what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, I appreciate that, but I can't do
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: what you do.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, there's a lot of boods that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you do that. I'm like, ah, I'm not, but I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: know me got a lot of masks to him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Ryan Nilson came in probably like year six or seven.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: For me, it was like hey, man, mask kicks, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: need you big. And I was like, well, say lest
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I'm your guy from beginn But I mean it's crazy
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that you now you got Ryan Nielsen. He's different as
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a decordinator than it was his D line coach. You
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: get like the relaxed Ryan Nielsen Ryan Nilson DL coach
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: hands on twenty four to seven. I believe he like
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like he feeling the need to fire you up at
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: every moment. You're like, just take a breath, let me
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: talk to you over here. Let me let me talk
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to you over here. So we don't have to we
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: don't have to have this, you know, because like you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: when a new coach comes in, you know, it's like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he's he pays the way. It's like, hey, my way
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to the highway, and I'm like, come to this highway
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: real quick. We're gonna make it our way.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know. And that's that's real that
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you said that, because you know, I know what I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: do best, you know, and what I do best kind
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of doesn't it's not it's not like what he's was
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: like teaches to do. So to have that conversation that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: sitting down with him, to have that conversation, he coach,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: this is what I do best, right, and but I
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: do like what he did help me out. He said
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to to He said three different things. Rush angles, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: speed rush, got to change the power angle rush. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he made me simplified. He made me like made it
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: so simple. Give him power and he's gonna stop his feet.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: What you got office a linement are dumb?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So like it that the same going It was half
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of the linement, like they're literally cattle.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what you do last?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Like which way did you go?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: George?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: That's the top of the lineman in general, and like
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: there's smarter ones I'm sure that can count the three,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: but like, you know, for real, it's like it's like
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: if you kill him with the speed, move one one one,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: put one down, like you can literally just be like
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: all right, now here's my counter. Like all they remember
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: is the last.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Now that's it, and it's yeah, he told me. He
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: told me those things, and I was like, I want
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to go train on my own. I'm like, he just
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: made it a lot easier for me. So when I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: want to study, it's like, you know, when I watch
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: your tape, what angle is he rushing at? Especially if
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: we're playing against a guy that we're about to see
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: this year, Like he worshed with his speed, and what
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: did his feet do? His feet kept going, his feet stopped?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So this is my counter. So it's like, you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: putting moves that a lot of people do, But what
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: move can I do? You know, I'm a cross chop. Absolutely,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: side saisions is not my thing, right, but cross chop?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: How can I threaten you to get the same reaction
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that you just got to put him in this position?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You know? So there's just things things I think I.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Stole my side swipe from like Alex okafort I becoming
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like whatever it is. As I'm watching film, like, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: my my arm over I've been doing forever, but I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: took I took that. I took that power move from
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: from Klay's campbell. I'm like, oh that was like after
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I was like to catch my arm over. I can
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: try and work and work back inside with this. I'm
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: never going to be a hump guy, but I.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Like I can throw that thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I can, I can try to throw it, like I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: still I still like different angles from all different rushers.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I look at Danil Hunter and I'm like, oh, that
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: long arm crazy and that like he has that that's
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: like his chop is just like vertically down. I'm feeling
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: moves at every like as much film as I watched.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I stopped watching film on officeive linemen and started watching
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: film on concepts, schemes and other defensive ends because I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: love I love the way you know we rush or
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: how you rush or how Trayvon rushes.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: When did you get when'd you When did you get
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: out of that? When did you get out of that? Realm?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Probably like year three, I was like so focused on like, oh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: what's he doing? What's he doing? I could care less
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: what he's doing because it's like he has to work
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in work within the scheme. He has to work in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: like if they're a pulling team or motion team, whatever
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it is, he has to work in his confinements. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: then again, offensive linemen like if they were if they
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: were actually athletes, they would have played on the defensive side.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And that's like you'd be like, oh, man, he used
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to be you know, he was a basketball player and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: now he's fat, so he's an offensive lineman. Or like
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: oh he was a de tackle and he was a tackle,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but then he got fat and now he's a guard.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You know, like if you were twitchy, you would be
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: on this side. If you you know, if you were
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: as fast as they say, you be on on this side.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So I look at them as just you know, they're like,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: oh he has great obstacles, Like his one job is
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to hold dear life for three seconds.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Do you know it's crazy that you say that, because
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I look at these dudes, that's how can I get
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: them to this arm slab? So when I was here
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: to when I was here for the last summer and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: they had me up there speaking, but I was so
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in shock. I'm like, I'm here breaking out my tape.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, uh. And I was talking to uh uh
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: justin Houston, and he was like, Bro, you gotta work
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: on you gotta work on the arm, you know, on
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the arm sleds. You better be on there every single day,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: every single day. You gotta know what you do. You
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: gotta trust what you do, because right now I don't
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like your trusting what you're doing. You gotta go into
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the trust real. And I'm telling I got you every
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: day I've been to this day, still do I even
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: one at the crib. I got my kids, I got
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: my kids. I'm trying to tell you. I tell my kids.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I say, hey, boys, what daddy do for living sack quarterbacks?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: What y'all do for living sack quarterbacks? So let's do it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It's like training. I get it. Come on, we work,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: let's work this cross shot. I get my oldest, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: gotta work with the eyes closed. I switch it up
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: on my poset and I get back on and got
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: my second boy. He getting quicker on it now, six
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: years old.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Out there work.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it because I feel like if I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: can train them to do it, then I'm always keeping
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: it on my mind. You know what I mean, so
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I think it kind of that's what I do. So
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: it's like if I can do what I do just
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: without thinking, then it's like who can stop me? In
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: my mind? Because if you if I can't cross chopping,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna run down your face and start that. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: now you're thinking about me running out your face.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And that I cross I'm thinking at it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: So it's you know, everything got a plan in my mind.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: But you know right now to eighty five Oh me too,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: eighty five dollars system, Yeah, come.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: On in mass kicks ass more power, Okay, And I've
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: been liking it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've been liking it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Look you say that until you like fifty snaps in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in that back.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: That back. They told me, they, Josh, I know you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: like to play, well, we're gonna have to rotate you
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I gotta fill it out, coach. And we
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: argued about that for a little bit. But I'm starting
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to understand the reason and of the madness. But I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like to play, right. I got that from Kalayis. Kalays
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: he never want to get out the game. I used
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to hate playing behind class, but Clays, I got you
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it's it's ten players in class. I'm good, man, I'm good.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I'm about the game. Bro Come on, man, let me
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: get it up. But uh, but I feel like the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: longer I can get into a.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Groove, you feel, you feel the flow, and you feel like.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing I ain't see this. Look at this hill
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he leaning on he rockets, you know. It's like, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: those are things I get when I'm in the when
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I'm in the game. If i'm watching, I'm not I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: watching this day, I'm looking at the ball, rust a
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: run or it's I'm not you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, that flowed the game.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It's serious, it's real.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Tell me about this. You like, you've had You've had rushers,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but now you've got Trayvon Walker on the other side. Uh,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: what if you've given him so his game is like
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you become a counterpart to him, you know, so they
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: have to worry about you and him, you know, they
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: double team you. They got to work about Trayvon or
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever whatever he's doing. You know, if you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: guys switch sides, it's like, what are you looking looking
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: at his moves or is he looking at you? Or
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, how are you guys rushing the corrala quarterback?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's a trust. I always tell him to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: trust himself. You know you didn't. You didn't get here
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: for no reason. You know, and trust your process and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: trust your moves. You know what I'm saying, Like I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: just told you, I know what moves. I know I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: can win on. I've trained it, I've trusted it. I've
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: instilled it in my mind and body that I can
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: work these moves and you and now I can do it. Trey,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you have to do the same thing. You have to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: mold your body. What do you do best? His get off?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: His get off is insane, Like getting to point A
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to point B is probably the best I've ever seen
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in person. You know, he's strong, he's long. So it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, you're fighting this dude. Your get off
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is five yards, ten yards and two steps? Right now?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You on them because you just naturally like that, Well,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: how are you gonna beat him? Now? Like when you
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: get on them, what are you gonna do? What's your plan?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Run down? Well, okay, well if he started that, then
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: what's your next plan? Now? It's angles? So now if
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you keep running with this, you know, you power angle them,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: but you get him sized scissors? Right, How is that working?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: How are you making it?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So you gotta really you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And there's been games where Bro just consistently just whipping dudes,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you know, because he knows what he's doing, you know
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I think just consistently like being
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: on top of him and helping him out because you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I always felt like, you know, I'm just do this
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: by myself, but also be accountable for everybody else. But
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: now it's like trade. But we've also had times with Trade,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know, right, we know that they running a time
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: or not inside. All right, I'm gonna go.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You go hard quarterback flush and you
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: know you really feed if you step up, it's me
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: if he if he flushed around, it's got to be you.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's one thing with Tray two is like
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: having that trust with each other because it was it
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: all changed for me. We played Miami in the preseason
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and we did a flush game and like in practice,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: we did it and Tray stopped, like he didn't finish
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the flush. He just stopped and the quarterback just flushed out,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and so it was like, bro, you gotta do it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And then in the game we did it, did the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: same thing. He stopped at the quarterback flushed out. So
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: it was like it was like that moment where it
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: was like, no more, everything that we do, everything that
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: we trained for in practice is going to happen. So
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: let's not train bad habits in practice and walk through
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and all the things that we do. Let's make sure
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: we're excellent and everything we do so when we get
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: into the game, is it's even better or it's better,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like at least have that
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: habit of doing it. So you know, that's one thing
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that we just talk about all the time, like in practice,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Like you know, when we communicate, we communicate it ain't
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: know like yeah, yeah, I hear you. Nah. If you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: tell me you want to work something, you want to
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: work something, I trust you. I trust what you see.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. And it goes vice versas, but
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: not only us, but the interior as well. Hey hey,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I got an exit right here. I've been watching on
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: tape second and long. He likes to just tag like
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a kickset, so boo, and that's gonna give you a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: lot Hey texted, texted, or goose it or you know
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, hit that ads because he's coming out
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to me, or we can run a quick exit because
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: he's bailing. So it's just like having that trust, and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: that's where I want to get to. It's like having
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: that trust between the line that you know, when me
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and Clay's rushed it said one thing. We said one
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: or two things to each other and it was like
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: sack because we trusted each other. He said something, Hey,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Jo's run a text.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: You're all right, cool, gotta run it. Boom, I'm hitting it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Text sack.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, Clay's exit, exit, got you your fellow but booom
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: exit Sack. You know what I'm saying. So, but we
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: had that trust, and that was the thing that we
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was hanging out outside the building as well. So it's
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: like we had like I want to bring that officially
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville, you know, and I think we got a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: lot of we got a good core now that's been there. Yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So it's like I know what we're getting into and
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I know what we can be.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Think about this when you're setting up moves right on
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the edge to understand angles. It's a lot like hooping, right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It's about getting your man off centered. So like in
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: my mind, if I'm on the edge and I'm like yo,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and like you know, when you're really teeing off you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: have two three sacks or you're just killing your dude,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he go to the sideline. I'm like, I'm hooping right now.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm in my bag. I heard you. I heard you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: hoop back in the gap, right, got a little little
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: basketball to you. Does that Do you think that helps
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you out to play football? Uh?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely care But you don't want to have
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that mindset, that basketball mindset playing for nobody. I said,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that's what I said.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the ability to isol the ability
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to shift your weight to shift angles, like you know
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: when you exactly that band for sure.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely when I look at uh, when
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I watched Vron, you know back in because I told
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you I've been on the Super Bowl journey, right, So
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: when I watched back to the fifteen when he went
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: on that little run, he was the best player in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the playoffs whole every game. And the way for him
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to work that bending keep going full speed is just
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: how do you do that? How do you work that?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: How do you get to that angle? Like what was
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: your mindset? What was your what was your thought process?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Like what what did you do to get yourself in
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: that position at all times? If that was the that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: was because he was just power rushing and as soon
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: as he stopped his feet just running around him. So
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it's like that's the that's like you're about to cross.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So I can see it all relate. Obviously. I come
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: from a basketball family as well. Right If you know
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: my sister in w n B A, So I watch
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: her a lot, and she a big post player, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I love seeing her get in the post because the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: idea get a post, everybody back on the sheet work
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: in that spere. So I think body position all matters.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You having a power angle, I'm rushing you, I just
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: ran down your face. I might know I might not
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a one, but you felt me run on your face.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So now when I give you that same illusion, just
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like you said, they don't get that same illusion, you're
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: gonna stop your feet getting ready.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: To catch it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Now you can't recover. So I think it, dude, got
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a good you know, I think it does matter.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Foundation where it transfers over absolutely, now do you agree with?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: You know, was that a month ago, a month and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a half ago when Austin Rivers hit everybody with the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: there's more NBA players that could transfer over to the NFL,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL, the NBA, And I was like, that don't
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: make sense, Like we're talking about height differential. And even then,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: who like Austin Rivers. I'm like, I'm saying, who would like?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Who would who could? Who could play? Who could have
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a successful career from the NBA to NFL?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Right? Them dudes is huge, They're tall, bro Polo. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: went to the Magic playoff game man and I took
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a picture. But I'm big, right, you know. I took
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a picture about this dude. This dude is mass tall.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: How do you play?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: What do you play? Would you play? You play tight end?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: You're dying, You're you're getting her, You're dying. You can't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you can't run over the middle. But it's over. It's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: over anything six seven and above you at tight end,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you're just a red zone threat or your your career
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: is over.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Them boys not playing receiver, right, the boys not playing running?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: But who playing running back?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Look? I see I see basketball players like like run
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: routes and they look like Buddy off of off of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: American whatever, bro, And I'm like, like, it's it's just
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: be upset, like, man, I really got it like that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But guys can really hoop like we got hooping. We
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: got there's some people in the in the NFL that
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: can really holp like and we the same size as them,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: something somewhat to threes. You know what I'm saying.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of fire one two threes for sure.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Translatable for I'm not gonna lie to you. There's not
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: twenty guys that are six eight and above.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And Trayvon shout out to Trey. Trey's a dog. He's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a whole. Yes, Travon Walker, He's a dog like dog
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: in the post. Yeah, you know, I used to be
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: trying to hate because like but then I'm really watching
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: like damn, I got it, damn like big body like
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and it looked good too, bro, real smooth, okayes.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the h last? What I have for
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: you is is who's the best dresser on your team?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Best dressed game? They fits in and out, not just
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: not just oh he was killing them one week consistency.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of guys. We had a couple
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: of guys. Can I put myself in it? You can
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: if you think if you can definitely put myself on there.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm more of a classical you know, if
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you know, you know type of dude, you know, but
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: looking really clean. We got Roy who wears like a
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: lot of colorful, you know, suits and who can really
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: put it together. Big Roy, Big Roy. And you got
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: got Cisco, Roy Robinson, Robinson Harris, Yeah, you got him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And then you got Andre Cisco, who's more of the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the the uh retro or more up to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: date fashion trends. He come out with some stuff I like, uh, Kurt.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Kurt Kirk is like five. Now that's what I'm saying.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I'll be good one hundred ten pounds Okay. He used
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: to fit everything, thank you. Okay, Just like I say
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that with shoe sizes, like, dude, man, you can't cut
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to me on the you wear thirteen, dude, I can't
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: wear those dudes.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta see.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I gotta win my Zenians dogs just to wear black sneakers.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I got the Gucci, I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: got I got I got wear Zena shoes, right, But
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it's all for the big guys.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Bro, Like, it gets hard, it gets hard to drip,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and yet we find the way. You don't say drip,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: don't drown.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: No, what's the hair do this year? Bro?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm just too stranding up, bro, I'm just just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: saying light. I've been I've been playoff list for for
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like three years. I'm focused in. I might even chop
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it all off, just like I could kill all maintenance work.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm focused in. I'm locked in. We're gonna
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: make it real simple. I was gonna have fun with it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, like three years of no playoffs,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you don't get to have fun. I need to win
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl, like I've got. I got two years
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: left in this thing. You know, congratulations too, they just
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: get paid.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: No, that's just an extension, bro, Like yeah, congratulations though.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, give me a Year fifteen. Man, we
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: just slide in.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on that too, but put the same franchise. It's tough,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you know. I'm trying to be right behind.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Year fourteen coming in doing a super Bowl. I said,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: hopefully I'll see you there, yescause I'm being that thing, yes, sir,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: but appreciate you jumping on the pod. Shout out to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: everybody who has made you the man that you are today,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: because clearly you got your head on the right way.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And I just want to say thank you for stopping
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: by off the edge with me and your host Cam
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: j Hey, I just like looking back at him to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: look back at you, to look back at him.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you bro always brother, Appreciate you having me on