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The Kenny Report | 4 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying You Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi up for sending Australian troops to Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: even as US President Donald Trump pauses all aid to
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  Speaker 2: that country, and the federal election choice widens as Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton rejects that idea and demands that public servants start
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  Speaker 2: turning up at the office. While Southeast Queensland braces for Cyclone.
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  Speaker 2: Alfred Victorian Premier de Cinta Allen runs with loopy left
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  Speaker 2: climate alarmism that as usual is wildly wrong and an
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  Speaker 2: Indigenous heritage claim made on Australia's sacred mountain of Motorsport.
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  Speaker 1: So much to get on with.
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  Speaker 2: Let's catch up with National's leader David Little, Proud, Tim Blair,
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  Speaker 2: Christen Tate in the US, and of course Steven.
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  Speaker 1: Senna, Tempo and Suzi O'Brien. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: The election in this country just became even clearer and
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  Speaker 2: the campaign hasn't even begun. After so many elections that
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  Speaker 2: have been a choice between Tweedledee and tweedle Dum, the
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  Speaker 2: Opposition leader Peter Dutton is giving voters a stark alternative
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  Speaker 2: to labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi with reactions reverberating around
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  Speaker 2: the world after the Ovaloff's overal offers blow up between
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  Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. Dutton and Shorten displayed bipartisan's support for Ukraine yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: but today Dutton and Albanesi, I should say, of course,
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  Speaker 2: but today they parted ways on just how far that
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  Speaker 2: support would go. The Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi does not
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  Speaker 2: rule out sending Australian soldiers to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 3: There's discussion at the moment about potential peacekeeping and from
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  Speaker 3: my government's perspective, we're open to consideration of any proposals
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  Speaker 3: going forward. As Australia has historically played an important role
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  Speaker 3: in areas including in Africa, in Cyprus, in a range
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  Speaker 3: of peacekeeping areas. We want to see peace in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 3: but we want to make sure that the illegal, immoral
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  Speaker 3: actions of Russia are not rewarded, and that Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 3: and his designs which are imperialistic not just on Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: but on other countries, are not rewarded or encouraged.
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  Speaker 2: Open to any proposals that's a major call, especially given
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  Speaker 2: the way our defense force is stretched with deployments in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East and in our Asia Pacific region. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it's an extraordinary call Australian troops being sent as peacekeepers
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  Speaker 2: into what is and has been an active war zone
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  Speaker 2: for three years. And this is Donald Trump has paused
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  Speaker 2: all assistance for Ukraine. Peter Dutton reckons keeping the peace
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  Speaker 2: in Ukraine is a job for European nations.
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  Speaker 4: In terms of whether we should have boots on the
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  Speaker 4: ground in Ukraine, I don't support that. I think the
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  Speaker 4: Europeans have that task and I think what President Trump's
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  Speaker 4: pointed out is that the Europeans need to do more
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  Speaker 4: in the defense of Europe, and that's a statement of
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  Speaker 4: the obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it's hard to fathom Labour's position here.
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  Speaker 2: In the past, they've mocked former Prime Minister Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 2: for saying his shirt front Russian President Vladimir Putin, and
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  Speaker 2: they've traditionally been more skeptical about our diggers joining missions abroad.
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  Speaker 1: Has Albo gone for this.
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  Speaker 2: Position because he wants to highlight a point of difference
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  Speaker 2: with Donald Trump? Does he really think it's an appropriate
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  Speaker 2: role for our soldiers, or is he so politically vulnerable
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  Speaker 2: over his defense and foreign policy weakness that he felt
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  Speaker 2: he needed to main open to this idea. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to see this position lasting very long. Dutton's
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  Speaker 2: policy of upholding the current bipartisan position of providing ongoing
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  Speaker 2: military equipment and humanitarian support to Ukraine for stopping short
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  Speaker 2: of sending troops is likely to be much more popular
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  Speaker 2: with voters, and it makes the most sense given the
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  Speaker 2: geopolitical realities. This difference could well be settled within a
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  Speaker 2: few days with a backflip from Albanisi before the election
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  Speaker 2: campaign begins, and that would be just another Albo national
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  Speaker 2: security muck up.
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  Speaker 1: We will see.
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  Speaker 2: Another new and clear difference between the candidates at this
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  Speaker 2: election is the public sector. How many public servants we
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  Speaker 2: have and how often they have to turn up to work.
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  Speaker 2: Labour not only has chosen to employ and adational thirty
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  Speaker 2: six thousand public servants, mainly in Canberra, at a cost
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  Speaker 2: of six billion dollars a year, but it's also given
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  Speaker 2: in to public sector unions and it's made working from
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  Speaker 2: home the default option for federal public servants and more
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  Speaker 2: than half of them do. At least half of the
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  Speaker 2: time the Coalition has announced it will demand public servants
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  Speaker 2: come back to the office.
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  Speaker 4: I think Australian taxpayers, who are working harder than ever
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  Speaker 4: under this government and barely keeping their head above water,
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  Speaker 4: I think they expect the government and the government employees
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  Speaker 4: to be working as hard as they are, and people
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  Speaker 4: refusing to go back to work in Canberra is not acceptable.
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  Speaker 4: We need an efficient delivery of government services.
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  Speaker 2: This is another sensible and popular policy from the opposition leader,
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  Speaker 2: but the Prime Minister is taking the opposite position.
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  Speaker 3: The Coalition want public servants to be at home all
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  Speaker 3: the time, six thousand of them, because they want to
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  Speaker 3: sack them. Be very clear here, So on the one hand,
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  Speaker 3: they're saying you can just stay at home because those
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  Speaker 3: additional public servants where we're put six billion dollars in
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  Speaker 3: the clearing off those cues in veterans' affairs. They're saying
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  Speaker 3: you can just stay at home forever.
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  Speaker 2: So not only does alb an easy pushback on public
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  Speaker 2: servants turning up at the office. The Labor leader is
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  Speaker 2: defending the public servants working from home, but he also
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  Speaker 2: attacks the Coalition for promising to block his plans for
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  Speaker 2: thirty six thousand extra bureaucrats. This seems like a bizarre
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  Speaker 2: policy to take to mainstream Australia. I'm certain that I'll
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  Speaker 2: love it in the camera bubble, but around the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the country. Albo's promise is to employ thirty six
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  Speaker 2: thousand extra public servants, mainly in canmebra and have them
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  Speaker 2: checking in from home or wherever. Be lauded by most
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  Speaker 2: voters have a listened to this example.
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  Speaker 5: A public servant spoke to us saying that a member
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  Speaker 5: of their team had chosen to work from home full time,
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  Speaker 5: but was very difficult and unreliable to get hold of.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason why was because that public servant was
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  Speaker 5: traveling around Australia in a campervan with their family. Now
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  Speaker 5: that's not working from home in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, good work if you can get it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for taking out taxes and throwing it around like that.
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  Speaker 2: Surely Dutton is onto a winner here.
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  Speaker 4: We don't need thirty six more thousand public servants in
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  Speaker 4: Canberra at a time when the government is fueling inflation.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's important to point out we haven't yet
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  Speaker 4: dealt with inflation in this country. There is still a
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  Speaker 4: likelihood of interest rates going back up under An Albany's government,
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  Speaker 4: particularly if the reckless spending continues.
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  Speaker 2: This all plays into the spending and economic management issues
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  Speaker 2: Labor's been throwing money around in the lead up to
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  Speaker 2: the election, with plenty.
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  Speaker 1: More to come no doubt. Alban Easy has promised more
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  Speaker 1: than seven.
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  Speaker 2: Billion dollars for the Bruce Highway in Queensland, three billion
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  Speaker 2: for the NBN, a couple of billion on more emissions cuts,
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  Speaker 2: just under two billion for WYALA and a couple of
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  Speaker 2: billion for the Melbourne Airport train. Then there's eight and
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  Speaker 2: a half billion dollars extra for Medicare funding and today
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  Speaker 2: almost five billion dollars extra for New South Wales schools.
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  Speaker 2: That's almost thirty billion dollars of extra spending added in
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  Speaker 2: just the last few weeks, and already the Albanezi government
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  Speaker 2: has added more spending to the federal budget than any
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  Speaker 2: first term government since Gough Whitlam. Leading independent economist Chris
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  Speaker 2: Richardson says Albanesi Labor had already added thirty one billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars in recurrent annual spending and that over the Ford estimates,
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  Speaker 2: Labor will spend an extra one hundred and forty billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That number will be higher now and it means higher taxes,
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  Speaker 2: bigger debt, and more pressure on inflation and therefore interest rates.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, who cares when there's an election to win.
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  Speaker 3: I know others are interested in election timing. What I'm
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  Speaker 3: interested in is getting things done on behalf of the country.
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  Speaker 3: This is a big announcement today. I intend to be
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  Speaker 3: in Queensland tonight, stroke tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to announce more spending in Queensland tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: cyclone or not. If Albanezy doesn't call the election within
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  Speaker 2: six days, his government will have to deliver a budget
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  Speaker 2: later this month detailing the full financial horror story, then
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  Speaker 2: go to the polls in May. So surely he'll call
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  Speaker 2: it this Sunday or Monday for April twelfth and skip
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  Speaker 2: another budget.
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  Speaker 4: I think Australians would see that as a so that
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  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister doesn't want to tell the Australian public
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  Speaker 4: the true dire picture of what the economic outlook is.
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  Speaker 1: For our country.
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  Speaker 4: The Prime Minister's presided over a lot of spending which
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  Speaker 4: has kept inflation higher for longer it's been homegrown inflation,
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  Speaker 4: which is what the Reserve Bank governor has pointed out
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  Speaker 4: and obviously for a lot of families who are struggling
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  Speaker 4: at the moment, but they just can't afford three more
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  Speaker 4: years of this government.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever the election happens.
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  Speaker 2: With divergent attitudes to public servants working from home, government spending.
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  Speaker 1: Overall nuclear power.
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  Speaker 2: And troops in Ukraine, voters are going to have a
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  Speaker 2: clear choice, and with any luck, the differences will only grow.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, Southeast.
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  Speaker 2: Queensland and northern New South Wales are bracing for tropical
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  Speaker 2: cyclone Alfred. Emergency services and local communities are readying themselves
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  Speaker 2: for flooding and winds of up to one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirty kilometers per hour, and the AFL season opener between
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  Speaker 2: the Lions and the Cats, scheduled for the Gabba on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, has been postponed, as has the Sun's Bombers
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  Speaker 2: Game on the Gold Coast.
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  Speaker 1: Scheduled for Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Alfred is currently six hundred kilometers off the coast, but
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  Speaker 2: it's expected to make landfall late Thursday or Friday, and
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  Speaker 2: the Queensland Premiere is leading the preparations.
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  Speaker 6: It is serious and it is happening and we want
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  Speaker 6: Queenslanders to be prepared. We are and we want Queenslanders
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  Speaker 6: to know, we'll get through this if you do the preparation.
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  Speaker 2: But way down south, I'm sad to say as ever,
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  Speaker 2: when the weather acts up, the loopy left can't help
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  Speaker 2: but display their climate lunacy.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the Victorian Premier today.
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  Speaker 7: We are seeing repeat extreme weather patterns that we've not seen,
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  Speaker 7: the likes of which, you know, massive floods and storms
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  Speaker 7: and fires, all happening almost simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the way to address those.
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  Speaker 7: Challenges is not to go down an ideological pathway which
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  Speaker 7: Peter Dutton and the Liberal Party wants to do, a
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  Speaker 7: nuclear pathway for goodness sake.
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  Speaker 2: Good lord, really, this is all new and worse and different,
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  Speaker 2: just not true, and allan uses that as an argument
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  Speaker 2: against emissions free, reliable nuclear power. It's just too silly
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  Speaker 2: to contemplate, isn't it. But as for weather and climate
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  Speaker 2: and this ridiculous alarmism that pretends everything old has never
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  Speaker 2: been seen before, well his Channel nine Brisbane well.
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  Speaker 7: Cyclone crossings this far south are very rare, they have
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  Speaker 7: happened before.
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  Speaker 5: I look back at some of the devastating cyclones of
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  Speaker 5: the past show what we could be in for.
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  Speaker 8: February nineteen fifty four and underprepared Gold Coast was hit
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  Speaker 8: with what forecasters would now describe as a Category three cyclone.
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  Speaker 8: Roofs were blown off, beaches washed away. Dozens of people
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  Speaker 8: across the Gold Coast and northern New South Wales lost
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  Speaker 8: their lives as more than a meter of rain fell
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  Speaker 8: in thirty six hours. Then thirteen years later.
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  Speaker 9: It took only one week of founding waves whipped up
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  Speaker 9: by seventy mile an hour gale hot winds to remove
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  Speaker 9: all the glitter from this famous playground.
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  Speaker 8: In nineteen sixty seven, cyclone Diner came barreling in from
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  Speaker 8: the Coral Sea as a Category four system. It never
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  Speaker 8: crossed but caused plenty of damage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there were more in the nineteen seventies too.
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  Speaker 2: Cyclones in southeast Queensland not an every day occurrence and
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  Speaker 2: not to be taken lightly, but they were a thing
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  Speaker 2: long before climate change. The Green left always has trouble
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  Speaker 2: sticking to the facts. Let's catch up with David little Proud,
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  Speaker 2: the National's leader. Now he joins live from Mudgie in
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales. Good to speak to you again, David.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having mate boots.
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  Speaker 2: On the ground in Ukraine. Australian peacekeepers in Ukraine. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think Anthony Albanizi is serious or was just a
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  Speaker 2: slip of the tongue from.
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  Speaker 1: Him, Well, I hope not.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think we should be sending boots on the
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  Speaker 10: ground into the Ukraine. I think that's a responsibility for
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  Speaker 10: the Europeans to undertake. They're better placed to be able
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  Speaker 10: to undertake that commitment, and it's great to see there
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  Speaker 10: is a coalition of the willing there to be able
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  Speaker 10: to support Ukraine in anything they need. But when we've
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  Speaker 10: got Chinese boats circling in Australia, I would have thought
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  Speaker 10: the governments and the ADF's priorities is about making sure
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  Speaker 10: that our defenses are up to scratch and that we're
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  Speaker 10: investing and we're actually strategizing about protecting our own people.
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  Speaker 10: When the Prime Ministers is currently relying on virgin pilots
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  Speaker 10: to let us know that Chinese ships are undertaking live
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  Speaker 10: fire exercise, is you've got to under you ask the
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  Speaker 10: question why why would it be going down this route.
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  Speaker 10: We're going to support the Ukrainians, and we've done that
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  Speaker 10: with bush masters and other equipment, but to put boots
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  Speaker 10: on the ground on the other side of the planet
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  Speaker 10: is bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if Anthony Albanezi is talking in terms of being
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  Speaker 2: open to any proposals, it sounds like maybe.
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  Speaker 1: He would join this coalition of the willing.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to seek a briefing from the governor
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  Speaker 2: as to what they're planning to do here? Because this
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  Speaker 2: is a major national security issue and possible commitment, we.
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  Speaker 10: Would expect that, and particularly as your head towards caretaker period,
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  Speaker 10: you would expect that there can't be any commitments until
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  Speaker 10: after the election. If that is the case, and we
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  Speaker 10: don't receive a request from the Ukrainian government, So I
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  Speaker 10: think we've just got to put this into context.
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  Speaker 1: We've been very.
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  Speaker 10: Supportive so far, will continue to be supportive, but in
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  Speaker 10: terms of putting boots on the ground, that's a different
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  Speaker 10: that's a different level of support than hardware. And when
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  Speaker 10: we have our own defense issues to focus on, I
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  Speaker 10: think a government of Australia should be focusing on our
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  Speaker 10: own sovereignty, our own security, and making sure that we're
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  Speaker 10: up to scratch and we're doing everything we can here
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  Speaker 10: to send the right messages to anyone that would want
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  Speaker 10: to try and do the same as what Vladimir Putin's
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  Speaker 10: done to the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I've got to get you on government spending.
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  Speaker 2: An additional thirty billion dollars wheeled out by Anthony Albansi
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  Speaker 2: in just the last few weeks. Now you've matched some
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  Speaker 2: of that the medicare spending for instance. But in the
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  Speaker 2: end you're going to have to go to the election
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  Speaker 2: promising and detailing a lot less spending than labor, aren't you,
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  Speaker 2: because this stuff is only going to spike up inflation again.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look you're right, and this is a closing
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  Speaker 10: downstile by Anthony Alberansi. He's simply every time he opens
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  Speaker 10: his mouth, he drops another billion.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is.
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  Speaker 10: Is we've been very clear about the public service. Thirty
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  Speaker 10: six thousand new public servants in Canberra is not the answer,
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  Speaker 10: costing you twenty four billion dollars. The manage to those
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  Speaker 10: haven't even been employed yet, they're about to be employed.
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  Speaker 10: So we've got to be sensible about that. We've got
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  Speaker 10: to get a public service that gets back to its
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  Speaker 10: core principle of looking after its customer, and its customer
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  Speaker 10: is you, the Australian taxpayer. And on frontline services, we
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  Speaker 10: be very clear we're going to protect those, but where
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  Speaker 10: We don't need to employ people in providing those frontline services.
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  Speaker 10: That's not going to add productivity to this economy if
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  Speaker 10: you put them into the public service. We need them
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  Speaker 10: out supporting business, creating wealth for this country because governments
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  Speaker 10: don't create jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Business do.
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  Speaker 10: The only jobs we create in camera, you pay for it.
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  Speaker 10: And you're going to pay twenty four billion dollars for
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  Speaker 10: thirty six thousand extra ones that Anthony Albanezy wants to
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  Speaker 10: bring to Camera. That is something the country can't afford
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  Speaker 10: and that's what we won't be doing now.
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  Speaker 2: The food industry is desperate to get some help from
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  Speaker 2: the government and so that's so important to everyone because
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  Speaker 2: our cost of living pressures are extreme. But when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to food producers, distributors and retailers, surely power.
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  Speaker 1: Costs are one of the huge inputs the government. The
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  Speaker 1: best thing the.
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  Speaker 2: Government could do would be to deliver on its promise
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  Speaker 2: to reduce power costs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's nowhere insight.
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  Speaker 10: They promised two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction and
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  Speaker 10: it's up by over seven hundred. The only way to
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  Speaker 10: get to say out of this in the short term, Chris,
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  Speaker 10: is to drill our way out of this. The only
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  Speaker 10: way to get supply into the grid is gas. We've
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  Speaker 10: got to drill in the short term, and drill hard
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  Speaker 10: to get gas into the grid. Because your powerbill is
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  Speaker 10: determined by the highest input costs of all the inputs,
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  Speaker 10: and the highest input is gas. If you increase supply,
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  Speaker 10: you bring that price down. That not only brings your
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  Speaker 10: electricity bill down, it brings food processes bills down. And
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  Speaker 10: in the long term we're going to transition to nuclear energy,
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  Speaker 10: we've got to have base load power. You can't run
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  Speaker 10: a country on the industrial scale the size of Australia
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  Speaker 10: on renewable energy. It simply can't be done. No one
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  Speaker 10: in the world is doing it because it can't be done.
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  Speaker 10: So let's be sensible. That's spread our wrisk, that's put
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  Speaker 10: all our energy egg in my basket, but draw on
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  Speaker 10: the sovereignty of all our resources in this country. But
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  Speaker 10: in the short term we can give the farm sector,
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  Speaker 10: the supply sector and use some hope not only electricity bill,
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  Speaker 10: your grocery bill by drilling our way out of it,
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  Speaker 10: giving sensible, sensible policy around an ag visa to get
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  Speaker 10: workers in and making sure that we also look at
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  Speaker 10: sensible things around industry relations to drive that. They're the
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  Speaker 10: common sense solutions that don't cost you the money that
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  Speaker 10: this government's going to cost you.
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  Speaker 2: David, thanks for joining us. Enjoy beautiful mudging, David little proud.
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  Speaker 2: They're the National's leader.
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  Speaker 1: He's dead right.
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  Speaker 2: You can't run this country on renewables plus storage. It
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: can't happen. It won't happen. That's what all the expert
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: analysis shows. We've got a government and most of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: media and half of the political world pretending it can happen.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Ask yourselves this.
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: If it can happen, why is no other country even
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: attempting it, not doing it? No one will be able
• 19:50
  Speaker 11: to do it, But they're not even trying national energy
• 19:53
  Speaker 11: self harm in this country?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Does my head in? Now?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: The controversy over indigenous cultural health heritage claims is about
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to be revd up big time, with the latest claims
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: being made over Mount Panorama just out of Bathurst. The
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: area is already a sacred site of course for Australian
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: petrol heads, with the famous motor racing circuit tracking up
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the mountain and across the top before going back down again,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and now a once obscure group the Wadjeri Traditional Owners
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Central West Aboriginal Corporation, which last year controversially blocked a
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: gold mine tailings dam at Blaney on Indigenous heritage grounds. Well,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: this group is now running a claim over Mount Panorama
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: or Walou because an elder who was instrumental in that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: previous claim had his ashes spread there just two years ago.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go to form a chair of the new South
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Wales Land Council, roc Roy, good to talk to you again.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You're familiar with this area. Has this claim come as
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: a surprise to you? Hi?
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: Look, Chris, this this this group illegitimate group you know
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: that doesn't have a native title claim, that isn't a
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: part of the local Aboriginal Land Council, but seems to
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: be getting traction and anointed by you know about the
• 21:19
  Speaker 12: City Council, the Office of Environment at the at the
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: commonwealth level. And it's alarming that they can use Aboriginal
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: culjun heritage as a way to you know, push their
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: own agendas, like come on, this is this is very
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: concerning for you know, for for my people, radary people,
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: and more importantly, Chris, I don't want to talk Hill
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: of the Dead, but how my ancestors that are fought
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: for rights in this country. You know, I said it
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: on your program before, they'd be rolling in their grave
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: if they found out what was going on.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the worry that if there are claims that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Are overegged or overreaching, then it damages legitimate Indigenous claims
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that may come up. In this case that you're talking
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: about some sort of Indigenous cultural heritage recognition because of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: an event that only happens in twenty twenty two.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it doesn't work. It doesn't work like that,
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: It doesn't wash with it won't stand the pub test, Chris, exactly.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: You just don't do that. You don't do that. It's embarrassing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: It's an insult to our people's culting heritage. And it
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: don't work that way. And like you said, when the
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: time comes, and it will come, Chris, where we need
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: the protection of a sacred site and this just waters
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: down and undermines the legitimacy of our sacred sites out there.
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: And it's concerning what.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Do the official Land Council delegates in the area have
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: to say about this?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Are they supporting it, are they opposing it? Are they
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: staying right out of it?
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: Oh, they're absolutely disgusted. I was talking to bout this
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: local average Land Council today, Chris. They put out a
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: statement saying that you know it, the Land Council wasn't
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: approached the Land Council as the cultural authority legally to
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: put a claim on any parcel of land and the
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: Land councils know full whirl Chris, that section thirty six
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: Public Essential Purpose places you can't claim. You can't put
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: a claim in the op Browse, you can't put a
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: claim in the Harbor Bridge. This is common sense stuff
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: that they not listen to the Land Council. They're bypassing
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: the Land Council and the Land Council has the cultural
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: authority been around since day in eighty three. You can't
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: claim Mount Banorama, like.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, it's crooks and as Yeah, there's been
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of people around the country are going to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: get their backs up about this one. Thanks so much
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: for joining us. Great to talk to you. Roy c there,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: who's a former chair.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Of the New South Wales original Land Councils.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Now we've got to take a break on the other
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: side of catch up with Tim Blair, going to talk
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to him about the former union boss John sek unloading
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: on albow. Let's set out to the Wimmer and catch
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: up with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph. Good to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: talk to you again, Tim, before we get onto our
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: other issues.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: That occurs to me.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: You're a lover of the internal combustion engine connected by
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: crankshaft to some wheels and all that sort of thing. Now,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Panorama is already a sacred site in this country, isn't it?
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: One hundred percent? I was there just a couple of
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: weeks ago. Me and a mate drove up there just
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: to drive around. It's a public road, you can drive
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: around the track, and I think the first time I
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: visited there was nineteen seventy six of being a regular
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: at Man Panorama. But I think, honestly, Chris Well, you're
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: right that it is already a sacred site for me,
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: and that matter for a lot of about original Australians
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: also love the cars. But secondly, I think what we've
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: got now is an incredibly cynical exercise where it's nothing
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: to do with genuine sacred sites, genuine places of worship.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: It's about disruption, it's about headlines, it's about trying to
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: stomp on things that bring excitement and pleasure to people.
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's at all to do with any
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: sort of genuine, genuine grievance.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real worry, especially when the official indigenous
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: groups they know nothing about it and oppose it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on those issues.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about John sec the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: rogue unionist who's had to go with Albert.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I think this works well for Holburb, but here's what
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: he had to say to me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 13: He's weak. Well, I know he's weak. He's weakest pissed,
• 25:42
  Speaker 13: to be quite honest.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: What do you know's we What do you mean?
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: Well, I had an incident which I'm not going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: go into with him. And let me tell you, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: wouldn't want to be in the trenches with Elbow if
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: we're in the war. He'd be the last person I
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: want in my foxhole with me.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I keep saying that Albou is weak, so I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: can't disagree with Seca there. But having an enemy like
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Seca is actually a strong point for Elbow, isn't it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. We've seen with past labor leaders that when the
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: more militant unionists go against you, the public tends to
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: be approving. As you point out, I'd also point out that,
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: you know, the idea of weakness is relative, and John
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Seca calling someone weak, well, you know, you know, John
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: Sector is one of the toughest sort of nuts getting around,
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: and I think if he's calling someone weak, that's everyone
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: from Rambo down is a bit on the soft side.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So you know we're going to look at it that way.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Everyone from Robert Dipia Domenico down is according to John Sedka.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to show you this. I showed this
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: at the top of the program.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: It's a clip from Senator Jane Hume, who was on
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: with Peter Creedlin last night. But this is an example
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: of a federal public servant working from home.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: A public servant spoke to us saying that a member
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: of their team had chosen you work from home full time,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: but was very difficult and unreliable to get hold of.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: And the reason why was because that public servant was
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: traveling around Australia in a campervan with their family. Now
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: that's not working from home.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: In my mind, How good is that? Tim taxpayers funning
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: in trim around the country.
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: Well, it shows how easy it is to be as
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: public servant, doesn't it. I mean it always used to
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: be the way, Chris, that there was a trade off
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: with a lower pay, of a lower amount of pay
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: for public servants, and in exchange for that you get
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: higher job security, greater job security and pensions and so on.
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: But now it's across the board. You get more money,
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: more job security, and free nationwide or at least available
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: nationwide travel as long as you can fit in one
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: or two meetings per day. I'm assuming that's sort of
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: stuff that the person at that level will be doing.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: It's obscene.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: You get higher super the works, and it's extraordinary.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I can remember dealing with public servants in the day
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: where no one would do anything after about four point
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: thirty because they're all packing up ready to be out
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the door at the.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Four forty nine. Now that just don't even turn up
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: at work.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And if someone's traveling around Australia in a camper van
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: still pretending they're doing their full time job, no doubt
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the next one will be doing a road trip around
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the US or Europe.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: Easy way to sort of to do a local version
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: of doge here, just call a quick heads up meeting
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: everyone you know, it doesn't matter who you are, you've
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: all got to be in the office Monday at seven o'clock.
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: We just get a bit of a chat about work
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: circumstances going forward. As they say, if you're not there,
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: you're gone.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Just call them in.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: You know, good luck getting a campervan back from Darwin
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: in time for your Sydney meeting at seven. It'll sort
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: things out nights and quick.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Ok.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: You what stupping in the morning, kick its right through
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the night.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Elbow's out there defending this stuff today effectively. Now I
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: want to go to the Oval office and on the weekend,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: lots of people with different views on this.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at that encounter over the suit.
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: Do you ever, why don't.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: You wear a suit?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Why don't you wear a suit?
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: You're the highest level in this country's office and you
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: refuse to wear a suit. Just want to see if
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: you do own a suit?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, problem. A lot of Americans have problems with
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you not respecting.
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: The dangy in this office.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big rich, isn't it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: It's a bit tough. I don't think too many people
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: are worried about the clothes. Although you know I mentioned
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: in the column yesterday that or today that wouldn't wear
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: a tie just to tie. You know, you're in the
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: White House and you've got your hand out for a
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: few hundred more billions. Well, yeah, time might be handy.
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I think to get that aggressive on it
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: didn't release at the point.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's pretty rude.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I think from the general my assumption is, and I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: think you said as much. I mean, the guy's a
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: wartime leader. Of course, Ukraine is still a war, has
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: been a war for three years, so you don't want
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to get around as if you just whack on a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: suit and go around to the Capitol, you're still dressed
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like a wartime leader. I suppose in some ways it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: just a sign of solidarity with your people.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But I thought this was a.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Funny attack because of the other Blake we've often seen
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: in the Oval office, Elon Musk.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Look at him, no suit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Free long t shirts, bloody baseball cap and often he's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: got his kid, you know, wiping bookers on the Oval
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: desk and all the rest of it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: Now, you make a good point. We've got a consistency
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: with these rules, and you know, maybe Elon should step
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: it up a bit, just a theory. I think he
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: does own a suit or two. I think at the
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: very least he can afford them.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: He probably does.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Let's just have a look at Donald Trump though, on
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the game plan here, because this is important. Everyone's got
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: their differences on the strategy, but I think we all
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: agree where he wants to get to.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I want one thing to happen.
• 30:46
  Speaker 15: I want all of those young people to start being killed,
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: being killed by the thousands every single week. Last week,
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: twenty seven hundred were killed. Twenty seven hundred young in
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: this case, just about all young boys.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon We're closer to that now or further
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: away after the last few days.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: It's almost impossible to tell. I mean, at least we've
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: had a meeting out in the open, and we've seen things.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: We know that negotiations aren't aren't progressing smoothly. But I
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: think people have lost a track of the sort of
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: the baseline of this, which is A Russia is wrong.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: They invaded, that's all established. But two, Russia is going
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: to win. Russia can't really lose this. They've got all
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: the numbers, they've got all the armaments, they've got the
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: people on the ground, so we've got to find out
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: a path through that, acknowledging both that Russia is wrong,
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: but also that Ukraine they don't have the power to
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: head off, you know, a form of superpower.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: They can't push them out completely. Yep, there's got to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: be a compromise, spot on. Thanks for joining us, Tim,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to before we go to the break,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I want to show you a clip related to this
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: from the West Today and this is the West.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Australian Premier, only days out from the election, Roger Cook.
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: Have a look, jd Vance is it's a.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Knob there you go.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I suppose he's got to win the election anyway, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty knobby sort of a response, wasn't it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break on the other side,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: were going to cratch up with Kristen Tate and get
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: her take on all of this and where to from here.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's got a big address to Congress tomorrow.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: The White House has confirmed that Donald Trump has paused
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: all aid to Ukraine after the blow up with Ukrainian
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: President Vladimia Zelenski in the Oval Office.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You might have expected caller heads to prevail.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: But as I said to Kristen Tate, the President has
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: doubled down, putting more heat on Zelensky.
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a negotiation tactic. I can tell you
• 32:49
  Speaker 16: that conservatives here were absolutely enthralled by the way that
• 32:54
  Speaker 16: Trump handled Zelensky at that meeting last week. I mean,
• 32:57
  Speaker 16: to come to the United States after we have given
• 33:00
  Speaker 16: his country hundreds of billions of dollars in aid and
• 33:04
  Speaker 16: to roll his eyes in the White House. It was
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: an insult. And so this is a negotiation tactic. Trump
• 33:11
  Speaker 16: clearly wants peace, he wants to make a deal, and
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: this is just a tough move that he's had to
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: make to achieve that end.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have a look at what Donald Trump said
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: before the polls was put in place. But that gives
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a clear indication of his thinking.
• 33:28
  Speaker 15: Well, I just think he should be more appreciative because
• 33:30
  Speaker 15: this country has stuck with them through thick and thin.
• 33:34
  Speaker 15: We've given them much more than Europe, and Europe should
• 33:37
  Speaker 15: have given more than us, because, as you know, that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 15: right there, that's the border. This country really was like
• 33:44
  Speaker 15: the fence on the border. It was very important to Europe.
• 33:47
  Speaker 15: And I'm not knocking Europe. I'm saying that they were
• 33:51
  Speaker 15: a lot smarter than Joe Biden, because Joe Biden didn't
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: have a clue. He just gave money hand over fist Christin.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest outcome so far from what went
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: on in the Oval Office is that Europe has stepped up,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the Brits and the other Europeans promising to do more,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: even suggesting they will put troops on the ground in Ukraine.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So that's been a very good outcome from what Donald
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Trump has done. But of course, when it comes to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: ending a war, the easiest why is George Orwell once
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: said the fastest why to end the war is to
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: lose it. So Zelenski can't just end the war at
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: any cost, right.
• 34:25
  Speaker 16: Of course not, and I don't think Trump expects him
• 34:27
  Speaker 16: to do so. But it's good to see his European
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: allies stepping up. They should have done that years ago.
• 34:35
  Speaker 16: Americans patients is being tested with Ukraine. We have Americans
• 34:41
  Speaker 16: dying on the streets here from fentanyl overdoses. We've had
• 34:44
  Speaker 16: an open border for years. The economy was in a
• 34:48
  Speaker 16: really bad place, and yet we had Joe Biden and
• 34:51
  Speaker 16: the Democrats telling us that we needed to keep giving
• 34:54
  Speaker 16: these blank checks to Ukraine so that they could fund
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: their pensions, their small businesses, their border security. Border security.
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: That sounds nice, like something we might want in this country.
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: So Americans have had it, and so many people that
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: I talked to here on both sides of the Aisle
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: are glad to see Trump being tough. We support Ukraine,
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: we want an end to this war, but no more
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: blank checks. Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Indeed, I want to go to the Maga minute or
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: an exit from this week's MAGA minute to show how
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the White House is framing this issue.
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: It was another historic week at the White House. Let's
• 35:31
  Speaker 17: break it all down in the MAGA minute. President Trump
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: showed the world what American strength looks like when he
• 35:36
  Speaker 17: stood up for the American people to President Zelensky during
• 35:39
  Speaker 17: their meeting in the Oval Office.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stood up to President Zelenski. There's different reactions all
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: around the world. For what it's worth, I thought jd.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Vance was the aggressive one in that meeting, but certainly
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Zelensky could have been more appreciative of the support of
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: America because nobody has supported Ukraine more than America.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: This is playing out in Australia now, where there are.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Differing sides of politics offering different levels of support for Ukraine.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how all that plays out.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You mentioned border control and the success on the borders
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that was also in the Maga minute.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Have a look on the border.
• 36:18
  Speaker 17: The administration has officially deported more than fifty thousand illegal
• 36:23
  Speaker 17: immigrants from our country, a six hundred and twenty seven
• 36:27
  Speaker 17: percent increase in monthly arrests under Joe Biden.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That is stunning success, Kristin, as you've talked about in
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the past.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Now I expect with this faux.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: State of the Union, effectively a state of the Union
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: addressed tomorrow, it's called something else because he hasn't been
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: sworn into long, but I expect that border protection would
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: be one of the achievements the president would focus focus
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: on pretty strongly.
• 36:51
  Speaker 16: Yes, it's expected to be. This address is going to
• 36:54
  Speaker 16: focus on what is being called the Renewal of the
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: American Dream, and it will feature four main sections. The
• 37:01
  Speaker 16: first will just be the accomplishments we've seen so far
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: under Trump. I mean, he's just accomplished a great deal
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: more than Biden did in four whole years. And then, secondly,
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: what Trump has done for the economy, we're finally starting
• 37:14
  Speaker 16: to see the economy bounce back after four years of
• 37:17
  Speaker 16: a very sluggish economy and recession fears. And then he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: also going to push Congress for more funding for border security.
• 37:25
  Speaker 16: To your point about the border, obviously, he's going to
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: highlight the accomplishments we've had on the border crossings have
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: essentially come to a halt. However, we need funding to
• 37:35
  Speaker 16: actually implement a larger deportation effort. And then finally, Trump
• 37:40
  Speaker 16: will also be addressing his plans to in state peace
• 37:42
  Speaker 16: around the globe, you know, obviously releasing the hostages, the
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: Hamas hostages, and then putting an end to the war
• 37:50
  Speaker 16: between Russia and Ukraine. So that's what we can expect
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: to see, and I think he'll draw a big contrast
• 37:55
  Speaker 16: between the last four years and what we're seeing now,
• 37:58
  Speaker 16: which is just prosper already on the rise, a feeling
• 38:01
  Speaker 16: of confidence back in the country and having a leader
• 38:05
  Speaker 16: who acts like we are the greatest nation in the world,
• 38:09
  Speaker 16: the strongest nation in the world. To have that confidence
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: back and kind of a swagger, A swagger is back
• 38:14
  Speaker 16: in America. So there's going to be a very optimistic address.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: It's not a very hard contrast to draw.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: We've had a few years of a sleepy American administration
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and right now it's hard to keep up plenty on
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the president's plight. And we'll be all over that to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that address tomorrow.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again, Kristin, Thank you very much. Chris,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Sure is plenty happening in coming up.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Susio Brien and Stephen Sipi and Tennetempa will join.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: We'll to have more on.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Labors, spend the thong, also the discordant debate over how
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: many day it's got to our panel now with Suzio
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Brian joining us from Melbourne, she writes for The Herald's Sun,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and joining us from Canberra is Stephen Seneti Empire was
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: ever breakfast host at Riding two Double C in camera.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you both of you now, Susie
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: in Melbourne, you're a long way away.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: From Cyclone Alfred, which is a serious threat to southeast
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Queensland and northern New South Wales, and.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Our hearts go out to people and will be updating any.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: News as the cyclone is expected to cross into onto
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: mainland Thursday night. But your premier there in Victoria, she's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: all onto the climate change angle.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Have a look again.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: We are seeing repeat extreme weather patterns that we've not seen,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: the likes of which, you know, massive floods and storms
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: and fires, all happening almost simultaneously.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Well, the way to address those.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: Challenges is not to go down an ideological pathway which
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: Peter Dutton and the Liberal Party wants to do, a
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: nuclear pathway, for goodness sake.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Good lord, the loopy lefty logic there, Susie. There are
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: big cyclones in the fifties and the sixties and the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: seventies in that part of the world.
• 39:58
  Speaker 18: Look, I mean her opposition nuclear power is well established
• 40:02
  Speaker 18: and she doesn't need what is a once in a
• 40:05
  Speaker 18: lifetime cyclone event to ram that down people's throats. I mean,
• 40:10
  Speaker 18: how uncaring and you know, to make political mileage of
• 40:14
  Speaker 18: an event like this. I mean, people in Queensland are
• 40:17
  Speaker 18: busy buying gum boots, filling sandbags, doing everything they can
• 40:21
  Speaker 18: to keep themselves safe, and they don't need her making
• 40:23
  Speaker 18: mileage out of it. It's really a disgraceful set of comments.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It is disgraceful.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: It's sickening, Steven, and I keep pointing it out because
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: it happens with bush fires. It happens with floods now,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it's happening with this cyclone. It's always nonsense, It never
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: checks out, and all the leftist politicians go with it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: They always try and pretend any weather event, as they
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: now call them, is new and.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Different and worse.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: The stats, the figures, the record says otherwise.
• 40:51
  Speaker 14: And that's the reality of it. I mean, it was
• 40:52
  Speaker 14: fifty one years ago. I think the last cyclone hit
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: this far south. But did she say going down an
• 40:57
  Speaker 14: ideological path is not the answer? No, miss is interested
• 41:00
  Speaker 14: at Allen's place exactly.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Now, let's go from ideology to social media embarrassment and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of politicians making idiots for themselves as insta
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: stars these days. Someone has just suggested, we've been having
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a look at Chris Bowen every now and then, but
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: his colleague Claire o'mill O'Neil is giving him a run
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: for his money, haven't it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Oh hih Claire is.
• 41:25
  Speaker 16: They're in there for a while.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: Great to see you.
• 41:28
  Speaker 19: So we don't to do a quick quiz Jerome Charlie
• 41:31
  Speaker 19: XCX or Taylor swift.
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: Tailor swift fan me or burgersed me, do.
• 41:37
  Speaker 19: You want to spend ten billion dollars on affordable housing
• 41:40
  Speaker 19: or ten billion dollars subsidizing your bosses lunch.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It's got to be affordable housing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: Clear in a housing crisis.
• 41:45
  Speaker 19: It's all about priorities, isn't it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Jerome absolutely.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable that bloke I think was a politician too, just
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: she crabbedest he'd stepped out on the toilet.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: What are they doing?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So this is from a housing minister who's failed to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: build a single house since three years.
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: It's just extraordinary, isn't that vote the Member for Ben Long?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's what the member of the family had,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: John Howard.
• 42:10
  Speaker 14: And now we've got the member for Oh goodness me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what you got for trading in John Howard.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: To be fair with there was a there was old
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: mate in between. But Susie, this sort of stuff is
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: just nuts, isn't it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Does it win them votes?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Do they get you know, you know, gormless nineteen year
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: olds voting for them?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Not that all ten year olds? I must add.
• 42:33
  Speaker 18: The last person who had Charlie XCX used in an
• 42:37
  Speaker 18: election pitch was Kamala Harris, So say no more there
• 42:40
  Speaker 18: but popping out of a a porter loo to be
• 42:43
  Speaker 18: questioned by Claire O'Neill.
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: No thanks.
• 42:46
  Speaker 18: I don't think that's going to win any under any votes.
• 42:48
  Speaker 13: I mean it is cringey.
• 42:50
  Speaker 18: I mean they're obviously going off, They've got a lot
• 42:52
  Speaker 18: of posters, they've got a lot of social media experts
• 42:55
  Speaker 18: telling them to go after the youth vote. No thanks,
• 42:58
  Speaker 18: I mean that's not.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Going to win them anything at all.
• 43:00
  Speaker 18: It's just cringing and embarrassing.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I would have asked him when
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: he walked out of there wasally going to wash your
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: hands instead of coming.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Straight over here and talking to me. Now, I want
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to get to this public servant debate.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I think this is a classic right elbow now standing
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: up for public servants not having to turn up with
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the office and standing up for thirty six thousand more
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: public servants.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Mainly in Canberra.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: The canmebra bubble's going to love this, Stephen, but I
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: don't think the rest of the country is he his
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: elbow On their side.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: The Coalition want public servants to be at home all
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the time, thirty six thousand of them, because they want
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: to sack them. Be very clear here, So on the
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: one hand, they're saying you can just stay at home
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: because those additional public servants where we're put six billion
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: dollars in the clearing off those cues in veterans' affairs.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: They're saying, you can just stay at home forever.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Stephen, all those canbra public servants when they get
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: home tonight from their goal for their bushwalking or they
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: set up camp after driving around the Northern Territory.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: They love that one. They look.
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: The only problem the coalition's got with this policy is
• 44:11
  Speaker 14: the Act government because the biggest gripe the public servants
• 44:16
  Speaker 14: have here is that they can't actually get to the
• 44:18
  Speaker 14: office because there's not enough public transport, there's not enough parking,
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: or it's too hard, or parking's too expensive, and that
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: is all true. So I don't know how they're actually
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: going to get these people back to the office, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 14: it is going to be an uproar here in Canberra
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: because these people love to where they're snuggies on the
• 44:32
  Speaker 14: couch and play PlayStation on our dime, and now they're
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: actually going to have to turn up to work. And
• 44:37
  Speaker 14: as I said, well we were talking about woolies.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: When did it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: Become controversial to expect people to actually turn up to work,
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: particularly when we're paying their wages.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: So many things are controversial these days, expecting people to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: turn up to work, expecting people to play with the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: people of the same sex as them. You just can't
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: keep anything basic anymore. I want to get to you,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Susie and something you've written about for the Heralds a
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: great column because you've zeroed it on this Harmony Day debate.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Now. I cannot believe the Australian Human Rights Commission.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: This is a mob who did nothing for human rights
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: during the COVID pandemic lockdowns. They've done nothing for human
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: rights when Jewish Australians have been the subject of horrific
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: anti semitism for a year and a half now, but
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: they've got it in for Harmony Day.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is just disgraceful.
• 45:24
  Speaker 18: And Natasha bit Of from The Australian broke this story
• 45:27
  Speaker 18: and it's a ripper. So the Human Rights Commission, about
• 45:32
  Speaker 18: thirty years ago they had a day called the International
• 45:35
  Speaker 18: Day for the Elimination of Racism and everybody thought it
• 45:38
  Speaker 18: just sounded so boring and awful, so they changed it
• 45:41
  Speaker 18: to Harmony Day. Suddenly it became the highlight of the
• 45:43
  Speaker 18: kindergarten calendar, everyone went out and bought orange clothing, even Camart.
• 45:47
  Speaker 18: You can buy an orange T shirt in Camar and
• 45:50
  Speaker 18: celebrate Harmony Day. However, in their wisdom this week they
• 45:54
  Speaker 18: decided to turn it back into the International Day for
• 45:58
  Speaker 18: the Elimination of Racism. Ever going to buy a T
• 46:00
  Speaker 18: shirt and came up with that slogan on it, because
• 46:03
  Speaker 18: you know why, people were having too much fun.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: They want us to.
• 46:07
  Speaker 18: Focus on everything that's negative, everything that's bad, and take
• 46:11
  Speaker 18: away the fun. And you know what, there are a
• 46:12
  Speaker 18: lot of people who are legitimately being racially vilified on
• 46:16
  Speaker 18: a daily basis. They don't need one day for the
• 46:18
  Speaker 18: elimination of racism. They need every day for people to
• 46:21
  Speaker 18: work towards that. And in the meantime, let the kids
• 46:24
  Speaker 18: in kinder wear the orange T shirts, eat some smelly food,
• 46:27
  Speaker 18: and do some daggy dancing. Maybe it's great motor culturalism.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe even have some fun along the way. I've
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: got an idea for a T shirt, Stephen. I want
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: a T shirt that says the National Day for the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Elimination of the Australian Human Rights Commission.
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: So you guys are missing the point here, of course,
• 46:45
  Speaker 14: the way that you eliminate racism is tell everybody that
• 46:47
  Speaker 14: harmony is a bad thing and you must all hate
• 46:49
  Speaker 14: each other.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only way you're going to get
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: rid of racism, right.
• 46:53
  Speaker 14: I mean, look, I love Harmony Day. I remember when
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: I was working out Mahumma Valley, we used to have
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: a Harmony Day event every year where I'd make a
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: big tray Tira Massou and somebody from Singapore. It'd make
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: a big tray of noodles and there'd be forty or
• 47:04
  Speaker 14: fifty dishes for a group of about thirty people and
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: we'd all go home with a doggie bag. It was great.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. Someone who's into harmony at
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the moment is James Patterson. Of course, the shadow Home
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Affairs Minister. He's onder Tony Burke. He's signing up thousands
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: of new residents, new citizens, and he's saying, give us
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: a whole of the list. Now you've got the list
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: of these people to campaign with them. The coalitions should
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: have them too, have a look.
• 47:29
  Speaker 20: MPs have an opportunity to contact them and welcome them
• 47:31
  Speaker 20: to the electorate. Now that's what local councils do when
• 47:34
  Speaker 20: they officiate, when they run citizenship ceremonies, but I don't
• 47:37
  Speaker 20: have any confidence that the Department of Home Affairs, while
• 47:40
  Speaker 20: it's being directed by Tony Burker's minister, will do what
• 47:43
  Speaker 20: it's supposed to do under the Citizenship Code.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Nearly out of time, Susie. But that's fair enough, isn't it.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Everybody should have the names if anybody's going to have them.
• 47:53
  Speaker 18: Yeah, and at this point we're practically an election mode,
• 47:56
  Speaker 18: you know, they're practically a caretaker government and they should
• 47:59
  Speaker 18: really play there something like this absolutely.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Indeed, thanks for joining us, guys. I appreciate it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Susio O'Brien there and Steven sena tiempo you can read
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Susie and the Herald Son listen to Stephen in Canberra.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Just a quick bit of feedback from you over what
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I had to say last night with Donald Trump and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Vladimir Zelensky, how all that played out in the Oval Office.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Peter says, the Europeans need to step up now. The
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: US and Australia need to move away.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: We have our own problems. We'll tell that to Albo.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: He wants to send in peacekeepers now. Jennifer says enough.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: As an American taxpayer. I'm tired of paying for the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Ukraine War.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: The United States is not the world's bottomless piggy bank,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and we've got time for one more of you ers,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: says most Americans are done with Zelenski.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And Ukraine, right. I think that's a bit unkind.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of admiration fell as Zelenski and
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the Ukrainian people, but we're going to train end this war,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: and that is what Donald Trump is aiming to do.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. I'll be back tomorrow. Here's Peter Quidlin.