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Laguna Talks with budding musician Shaheen Sadeghi · Laguna Talks

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  Speaker 4: Shhen doing awesome this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's been a minute since you've been in
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  Speaker 3: the station. I think it was pre COVID. Actually yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was came on my show Laguna Talks. And for
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  Speaker 3: those of you who don't know Shaheen, he's a developer
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  Speaker 3: of some retail properties all over southern California. I believe
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  Speaker 3: that's great anywhere else days.
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  Speaker 4: Well, restarting in San Marcos, I guess that's southern California,
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  Speaker 4: that's Nean Diego County. But that's going to be our
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  Speaker 4: new project, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And you guys are probably familiar with the lab and
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  Speaker 3: the camp and in Anaheim it's the packing packing. And
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  Speaker 3: I would say that you're probably, in my book, the
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  Speaker 3: most innovative retail developer we have, because you have great
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  Speaker 3: taste and you're always tinkering, and your landscaping is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to ask you because I know you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of a I know you've done. Ted talks things
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  Speaker 3: like that about retail, and Howard Schultz of Starbucks always
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  Speaker 3: talks about the third place, you know, outside of the
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  Speaker 3: home and the office. And I feel like in our culture,
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  Speaker 3: particularly in America, where we're all bound to our cars,
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  Speaker 3: and especially now, we don't have gathering places like we
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  Speaker 3: used to. Nobody goes to church anymore, synagogue, we don't
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  Speaker 3: have the town squares, we don't have meeting places. And
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  Speaker 3: was that intentional on your part because it's so inviting
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  Speaker 3: to go and hang out at the lab or the camp?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't know if we were thinking
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  Speaker 4: about churches and synagogues, but we were thinking about community,
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  Speaker 4: which really it's something that you know, somewhere along the line,
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  Speaker 4: our culture the last three hundred years sort of went
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  Speaker 4: away from the neighborhood community. But I think, quite honestly,
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  Speaker 4: is probably the most exciting thing happening in our world
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  Speaker 4: right now or communities back in localization. I call it localization, personalization, customization,
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  Speaker 4: mass customerzation as opposed to homogenization. Yeah, I think our
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  Speaker 4: products and our sort of purchases everything became such commodities.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're back into really supporting locals, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: your local farmer, or local coffeehouse or local restaurants.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's at these are exciting times.
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  Speaker 3: And are you I mean that the trend obviously in
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  Speaker 3: shopping centers are generic big shopping centers. Is they've been
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  Speaker 3: failing post COVID, right, I mean that's many of them have.
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  Speaker 3: But what's the general view of retail And are you
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  Speaker 3: bucking the trend by having these unique, one of a
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  Speaker 3: kind boutique boutiques and specialty stores. Is that keeping things
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  Speaker 3: thriving for you?
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  Speaker 4: Well for us? Yes, I mean, look, we are companies
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  Speaker 4: thirty plus years in now and it's called the LAB
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  Speaker 4: stands for the little American businesses. I think at the time,
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  Speaker 4: I was in the action sports industry here in Orange County,
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  Speaker 4: and I really realized the value of small businesses. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, I still think, you know, thirty years later,
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  Speaker 4: it's the backbone of our country is small businesses. So
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  Speaker 4: our platform has always work with local small businesses as
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  Speaker 4: opposed to national attendants that really are soulless, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for the most part. I don't mean to be mean,
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  Speaker 4: but really what's happened, and particularly after COVID, I think
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  Speaker 4: COVID basically took a lot of mediocrity out, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I think you know, anybody's that was great, particularly
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  Speaker 4: a low cooperators. There was a line out the door
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  Speaker 4: for them for their products after COVID. And I think
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  Speaker 4: the other thing that COVID may have done is just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in a much more clear way, it sort
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  Speaker 4: of drew a line between you know, our purchasing habits
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  Speaker 4: or our consumptions, between pure consumption and commodity and things
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  Speaker 4: that are you know, have value to us or that
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  Speaker 4: sort of make an emotional connection. So you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean by that is, I think, you know, when
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  Speaker 4: I was growing up in Michigan, you know, we bought
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  Speaker 4: a twelve pack of cores and you know, watch football
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  Speaker 4: and the basement, you know, and today, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: don't consume that way. I think that falls on their commodity.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, people like to go and talk
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  Speaker 4: to their local broom masters, kind of like they've done
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  Speaker 4: it in London and Ireland for years. Everybody's there's a
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  Speaker 4: pub at every corner that becomes a community center and
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  Speaker 4: you want to have the conversation with your broom master
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  Speaker 4: and you know what going to be are you making?
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  Speaker 4: You know, And it becomes really less about price, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because I don't really care if they judge read ten
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  Speaker 4: bucks for a glass of beer, because I want to
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  Speaker 4: have the conversation. I want to tell, you know. And
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  Speaker 4: I think the same things happen with the coffee business
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  Speaker 4: and restaurant and so I really think there's a distinction
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  Speaker 4: between that and you know, the old days we drive
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  Speaker 4: through a McDonald drive through and somebody chucks a hamberg
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  Speaker 4: at you through the little window and you ate and
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  Speaker 4: the car went back to work. So I do think
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  Speaker 4: that there's been a big cultural shift.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they say that with Amazon and
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  Speaker 3: online shopping, it's the death of retail, and as you said,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a mediocre retailer, perhaps it is. But what
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  Speaker 3: is the secret, then, the secret sauce to keeping retail thriving.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's community connection. Look, there's nothing wrong with Amazon.
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  Speaker 4: I shove on Amazon, but you know, I buy my
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  Speaker 4: commoditie the goods there, you know. So I mean I
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  Speaker 4: don't necessarily want to crawl into my car and drive
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  Speaker 4: into a grocery store and park my car and worry
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  Speaker 4: about getting a dang by the grocery card and white
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  Speaker 4: in line just because I want to buy some toothpaste.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot easier just to order it
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  Speaker 4: from Amazon. But I think when it comes to personal things,
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  Speaker 4: and I think food falls under personal because so many
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  Speaker 4: of us are so much more cautious of our health
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  Speaker 4: and we're aware of, you know, all of the issues
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  Speaker 4: we've had over the years, you know, with cancer or
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  Speaker 4: what have you within our culture. But I think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the stuff that we're really spending time and were buying,
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  Speaker 4: they're important to usm and that's the stuff that we
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  Speaker 4: want to buy from local and we want to really
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  Speaker 4: understand the social aspect or the social connection of it
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  Speaker 4: as opposed to just commodity. Yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, in Laguna there's a there's pushback against all
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  Speaker 3: the restaurants because they seem to be the only tenants
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  Speaker 3: that have a chance to thrive. Here are you shifting
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  Speaker 3: over at the camp? I know there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: dining options there. Have you found that that's a more
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  Speaker 3: viable retail tenant for you or it brings more people?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think food is still important. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: is getting crowded, but as I mentioned earlier, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think the competition is getting more so you have
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  Speaker 4: to be really good, you know, you've got to be
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  Speaker 4: really specialized.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I honestly extant.
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  Speaker 4: It's very expensive, particularly with you know, here in our
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  Speaker 4: state of California, it's probably the worst place to do
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  Speaker 4: a business from a regulation standpoint, which is where I
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  Speaker 4: spend half of my time fighting city hall. You know.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the the idea of you know, food
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  Speaker 4: going away, I just don't see that happening.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I do think that the big shift though, has been retail,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, we haven't open a dress shop
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  Speaker 4: here for twenty years, you know. But I think whether
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, retail or food or entertainment or what
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  Speaker 4: have you, I think what's happened is that at every
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  Speaker 4: level of our purchasers, we're looking for that multi level experience.
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  Speaker 4: And the best example that I like to use is
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  Speaker 4: kind of like your iPhone. I mean, technically it's a telephone,
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  Speaker 4: but the last thing I use it for is my
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  Speaker 4: phone because I hate talking on the phone, you know,
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  Speaker 4: So I mean I use it. I even use it
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  Speaker 4: to turn my jacuz often, you know, I use it
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  Speaker 4: for texting, and I use it for you know, my
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  Speaker 4: emails and all of these other things. So and you know, interesting,
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  Speaker 4: when iPhone comes up with a new model, the only
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  Speaker 4: thing they're advertising is the is the camera. So all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, is my camera, And yeah, I got
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  Speaker 4: to get the new camera, you know. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's not even about a phone anymore. But it just
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  Speaker 4: shows that as consumers are really expecting that multi level
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  Speaker 4: experience with our gadgets, it can't be a single function,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And so I think with retail is the
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  Speaker 4: same thing. You know, you can't just you know, throw
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  Speaker 4: stuff on a rack and sell people commodity. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: some people can, but I don't think that's where the
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  Speaker 4: excitement is. So I think it's really about building the
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  Speaker 4: community and developing a relationship with the customer. And that's
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  Speaker 4: that's that's hard to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to think that one of your advantages
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  Speaker 3: over the standard generic shopping experience is first of all,
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  Speaker 3: the mix of restaurants, bakeries, vintage stores, all these cool
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  Speaker 3: things you have, but you're also providing an experience just
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  Speaker 3: being there. And we all know that young people today,
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  Speaker 3: the younger demographic isn't spend money to buy houses or
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  Speaker 3: buy cars. They're spending their money on experiences, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel like you're kind of set up perfectly for that
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  Speaker 3: kind of that kind of retail, for that kind of consumer.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you for saying that. Yes, we honestly do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think, you know, the packing house has
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  Speaker 4: been a great project for us. I mean, one of
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  Speaker 4: the things that we realized it's, you know that we
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  Speaker 4: have a large Hispanic community, we have a large Asian community,
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  Speaker 4: and and most of these cultures still like to dine together.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, as Americans, you know, we only
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  Speaker 4: get together Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we fight and then we fight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think with most of these cultures, you know,
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  Speaker 4: on a Sunday, we see twelve people show up and
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  Speaker 4: as the grandkids and grandparents and you know, and everybody
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  Speaker 4: in the middle, and you know, they get food from
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  Speaker 4: the different vendors and they all take it in the
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  Speaker 4: backyard and have a you know, pull twelve fifteen chairs
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  Speaker 4: together and eye together. It's hard to have that experience
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  Speaker 4: anywhere else that I'm aware of here in oore Kanda.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and particularly a place like Anaheim, which I think
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  Speaker 3: really blew it whenever they sort of dismantled their downtown
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  Speaker 3: core in a way that Santa Anna did not do it.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that you've invested heavily in downtown. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you're still involved, but you've brought again
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  Speaker 3: that third place for people to gather. I think there
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  Speaker 3: was such a hunger in a place like Anaheim that's
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  Speaker 3: just so spread out, disparate, and now they have a
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  Speaker 3: place to gather and people watch and be with their
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  Speaker 3: family and have a great dining experience.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's some truth to that. Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think again, you know, much of our cities here
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  Speaker 4: just sort of forgot about their downtown's not here in California,
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  Speaker 4: just sort of crossover country, you know, sort of the malls.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I know growing up in Michigan or downtown's
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  Speaker 4: just sort of went to hell. And you know, the
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  Speaker 4: malls took over because they were air conditioned in their
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  Speaker 4: summertime from a humidity and they were heated in the wintertime.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's been a complete reverse here now
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  Speaker 4: for some time. You know, I think people want their
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  Speaker 4: downtown's back, and unfortunate le Anaheim, Yeah, they wiped out
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  Speaker 4: their downtown. We have this sort of a nasty habit
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  Speaker 4: in this country that you know, we kind of wipe
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  Speaker 4: down our history. But I do think that there is
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  Speaker 4: you know, some attention paid to that these days. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there's preservation. So I would say a good majority of
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  Speaker 4: the projects we've done is all, you know, preservations of
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  Speaker 4: bringing things back. And I think when you bring things
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  Speaker 4: back and you do it with authenticity, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: really means a lot to the community. So it makes
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  Speaker 4: a massive difference. It's just, you know, we used to
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  Speaker 4: say in the surf industry, authenticity is something you can't buy.
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  Speaker 4: You have to earn it. You have to and I
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  Speaker 4: think these buildings, you know, kind of earn it, which
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  Speaker 4: is great value.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you have great vision to find these buildings that
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  Speaker 3: was a true packing house in the citrus industry, and
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  Speaker 3: you had a vision that they could make a great
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  Speaker 3: food court. And if there's any testament to your success,
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  Speaker 3: it's the fact that it's really hard to find parking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear about that. What can you do?
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  Speaker 3: You know, and when you're over to the lab, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: cars are just cycling, cycling, cycling, but you've made it
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  Speaker 3: a fun experience even to park because you put these
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  Speaker 3: inspirational words in every single parking space and it's just different.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that you know, your attention to detail
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  Speaker 3: is really something that is missing in most retail environments.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Orange County is getting crowded, just as LA. And
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  Speaker 4: you know in LA you can't go out to any
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  Speaker 4: kind of an experience, whether it's the theater or restaurants
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  Speaker 4: or not at the valet. So I think this mentality
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  Speaker 4: of sort of strip center you can just pull up
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  Speaker 4: and park and pop inside, you know, just based on
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  Speaker 4: you know what's happening, whatever topography and land value. It's
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  Speaker 4: just very hard to do. So we do offer a valet,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I think, you know, as Orange Kuntians,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're kind of learning that that's sort of
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  Speaker 4: the future, you know. And I think also there's been
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  Speaker 4: a lot of movement, you know, in terms of I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we recently did some studies on you know, six eight
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  Speaker 4: thousand people hubered to our Pride one of the projects alone,
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  Speaker 4: and so I think two thousand a day, six thousand
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  Speaker 4: for the month of June, for the month of Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: So I think, you know, it just shows that people uber,
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  Speaker 4: you know. I mean, my kids just kind of grew
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  Speaker 4: up with uber mentality. And if they're all going on,
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  Speaker 4: nobody wants to drive, you know, it wants to park.
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  Speaker 4: So I think three people will get into an uber
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  Speaker 4: and you know, it's five dollars each or something, and
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  Speaker 4: it's just it just makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 3: That's really helped you.
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  Speaker 4: In Anaheim, we've created this FRAN system. It stands for
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  Speaker 4: Free Rise around the Neighborhood as an app base, so
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  Speaker 4: you can actually if you're in a neighborhood, you can
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  Speaker 4: you know, bike there, or you can call friend. They'll
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  Speaker 4: come pick you up for free and bring you to
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  Speaker 4: the packing district and then take you back. So I
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  Speaker 4: think there's all of these alternative options that weren't there
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  Speaker 4: twenty years ago, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well shehena. Now that we've kind of talked
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  Speaker 3: about your your career, your business career, and I should
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  Speaker 3: mention too if I get in correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: You grew up in Michigan, You went to school in
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  Speaker 3: New York, You got involved in the fashion industry, you
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  Speaker 3: were in the hot catore or yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just studied to be a couturier. I went
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  Speaker 4: to Pratt in Brooklyn back in the seventies and I
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  Speaker 4: transd so I was trying to make ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: dresses and somehow I translated that into the action sports industry.
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  Speaker 3: You got recruited to come out and run the swimwear
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  Speaker 3: division for Quicksilver.
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  Speaker 4: No, actually, I first got recruited by a company called Catalina,
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  Speaker 4: which was a swimmer company back in the seventies and
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  Speaker 4: their giant Yeah, and then I got into a company
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  Speaker 4: called Jans and Sportswear, so I ran the golf, tennis,
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  Speaker 4: it was all sports. Swim of course was a big
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  Speaker 4: part of Jansen and then from there I transitioned into
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  Speaker 4: the surf industry. Michael Thompson, you're a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 4: Brought me down Orange County back in eighties early eighties,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: and so I got involved with Gotcha Sportswear, which was
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: really a wonderful brand. And then from there I went
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: to Quicksilver as president to work with Bob McKnight.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: And then what how did you transition into retail.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I was coming back from a trip from Asia because
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: we had offices in Asia. I actually had an office
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: in Hong Kong for ten years when I worked for
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Chance and which is a VF corporation, and I was
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: on an American or excuse me, United Airlines and it
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: was the days where they said the rights sided playing,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the smoking and the left side of playing. I remember
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: that for the back you know, the back six rolls
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: or smoking. Everything else is not. I mean, it was
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: a joke and coming back and I think a lot
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: of people in that region of the world are just
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: NonStop smoking, and I'm getting bounced around in the Pacific
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: it was you know, heavy thunderstorms and I'm just choking
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: and all the smoke. I just felt miserable by the way.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: That was probably my twentieth trip, you know, that for
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that year, and I looked out the wind and I thought, well,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: what am I doing with my life? You know, I'll
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: make freaking board shorts.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Iran the largest two larger surf
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: brands in the world. But you know, at some point,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I just kind of felt empty, to be really honest,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and I didn't have any kids back then. I did
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: want to start a family, and I think there was
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: a combination of you know, just wanting to do something
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: on my own. So I was thirty eight at the time,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and I felt, you know, this is the time, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: if I screwed it up, I can go back and
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: get a job.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So that was the and and that's when you bought
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: sort of a degraded industrial strip on Bristol.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I I sort of went out and you know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: found the broker through a front of mine from CBR,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: and I said, here's what I'm looking for, you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: And I figured it's going to take six eight months,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: and by the time he finds something, you know, it
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: would give me some runway to transition out of where
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I was working with at Quicksilver. Well, he showed up
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: two weeks later, and the minute I saw that lab
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: property down the street from Southles Plaza, and it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a dilapidated, dusty It's exactly what I wanted.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: And you already and you had formulated this idea.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I've been yeah, I've been thinking about the idea for years,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: just traveling through you know, because we had offices in
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Europe with all of the different companies I was involved with.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: You know, we opened an office in Paris, we had
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: an office in Beurea, it's France. We had offices in Japan,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: and you know, throughout throughout Asia. So I think as
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I travel, I gathered all of this, like I would
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: land in America and I would think, hey, I would
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: reteillig is so boring, you know. And then at the
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: same time, there was told gen X thing that was
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: going on back in the nineties. You know. It was
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: like anti establishments, you know, like cool people that just
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: didn't go to malls. You know, yeah, that's for sure,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you didn't take your girlfriend from the mall to eat,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you know. And so I think I wanted to create
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: this little village. And then right behind me we were
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the largest quick slover, but behind me there was you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Massimo had a good brand and Sea and Stewcy had
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a good brand, and I kept thinking, well, these guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: are gonna, you know, they're not going to go open
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: in the mall. And in Orange County we don't have
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: cool little streets, you know, yeah, like so in New
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: York did. And so I think the idea was s
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: build a village to bring all the little businesses, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: because as I got involved with these surf brands and
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: whomen were small, it was just fantastic and the bigger
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: we got, the goofier we got, you know, And so
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to really create a platform for small
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: businesses to all kind of gather together. That's where the
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: idea of the lab was lab.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what and the and the other name
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that people refer to it anti mall was that something
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: you cooked up with It's.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Something I cooked up. I think the idea was that
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: we're not a mall. Yeah, and I think we wanted
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: to have some humor.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: It was very great branding idea.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, lab. You know, it's interesting because
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: it's an acronym, but it still it stands on its
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: own as something cool, a lab, a laboratory, right. It
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: worked out on it all worked out. So a little
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: known fact though, and let's get to why you're here.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: By the way, we're gonna now start asking you all
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  Speaker 3: deductible donation. So all right, so you're already a sportswear
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: a fashion designer, a retail developer, and then over. But
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a little known fact about you is that you grew
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: up playing music and a number of instruments.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Well, I started playing guitar when I was about sixteen
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: years old, and when I went to art school, I
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: you know, my focus really became about trying to get
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: through school, and then after that it was about getting
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: a job, and after that was raising my kids, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: after that was prefurring my starting a company. So I
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: just honestly didn't play the instrument for a good twenty
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: five years or so. And I think when COVID hit,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: you know, which is hard to believe, like every single
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: one of my businesses got shut down, and I think
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the world got shut down. It was extraordinary when you
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: think about it. And you know, sitting in there in
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: my living room, I decided to dust off my guitar
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, sort of got back into it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: And then.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: At some point I ended up at the Laguna guitar shop.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: You know, my buddy Ben over there turned me onto
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: this mandolin, and I absolutely fell in love with it
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: because I've grew up playing led Zeppelin and you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: every time Robert Plant and uh, Jimmy Page would get
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: together and sing, you know, go back to California or
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: one of the classics and on a mangolin, I just thought, man,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I got to figure out how to play this thing.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And you had not played a mandlin. I had not
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: played a manderin. So I bought it, and you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I struggled with it for a while, but then I
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: just ended up liking more than a guitar. And then maybe,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: if you know, some time later, I walked into the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: guitar shop again. I found this other weird looking instrument
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and I asked Ben, I said, what is this? He goes, well,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I don't really know, and he's a great musician, so yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: he didn't know. Well, I ended up being a an
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: octave mandolin, which is sounds kind of irish, you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: it's very like Renaissance sounding. Fall in love with that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And every time I travel, I'm a big traveler. It
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: was cool because I take these instruments with me. But
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, when COVID hit, there was two countries
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: that were open because all of Europe was shut down.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: One was Croatia and the other was Turkey. So I
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: ended up going to Croatia and getting a sailboat and
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: sailed all the islands and there was absolutely nobody there
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: was so crazy, how beautiful. And then I went to
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Turkey and rented a car and drove through the country
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: and also got another boat and sailed out the Turkish islands.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I was gone for quite a bit, and I took
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: all these instruments with me. So I think much of
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: this music was written in twenty twenty when the world
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: was a mess. Sounds very romantic. Writing on the sailboat.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I just it wasn't really some plan. It just gonna happened.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got inspired to actually start writing some songs.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got inspired writing the songs, and then at
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: some point. You know, I got turned onto a really
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: an amazing musician locally. His name is Mark Smith. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: if it wasn't for him, none of this would have happened,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you know. And I think as I got together with him,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and plus he understood all those instruments. And uh and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: by the way, when I was in Turkey, I picked
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: up this other instrument called the saws, which is a
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: local instrument.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And you know, I just got also stringed instrument, yea
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: like a bazookie or.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like yeah, it's like it's almost
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: like guitar, like an old ancient instrument, and so I
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: think string it's actually has eight strings. Weird little deal,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: but and different kind of tuning, yeah, totally different tuning. Yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I mean I didn't really understand his instruments. I just
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: had to kind of figure things out. Uh, but it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: uh so Mark really helped me put all this together
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and then just came in and Mark is a great
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: guitar player as well, so he came in and just
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: really helped me just where I screwed up. And and
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: so we got the album done. As if this week
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: a complete I've got a complete album. And so now
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: we're just sort of tuning up the cover and we're
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: struggling for the name of the album, so a couple
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: of names going. So I should have it out by you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: What about the graphics, gras, Yeah, I've got some international
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: photos I take and so I'm just I'm trying to
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: see what feels right, you know. So I have to
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: get some of my friend artists to help me.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Well, let's get into it. And I appreciate that you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: debuting your album here on kx FM.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: That's quite an honor. And uh and you're and you've
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: got big balls.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Well thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, I think I can
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: say that on the radio. Yeah, anyway, so what's our
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: first song.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Let's well, the first song is called Your Eyes. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: really one of the things about COVID was that is,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: you know, we all have to wear a mask, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I really realized the power of just looking at people
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: in the eyes and how much we can communicate as
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: human beings just through our eyes, you know, And I
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: was just fascinated with that. So this song was written
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: in Croatia, no water, and it's called your Eyes.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And before you start, let me just ask you, are
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: we now running down sort of in the order of
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the album. Yes, it's always It could change around, but yeah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: but I always the beauty of an album is you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: we're so habituated now to listening to just a song
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and we forget that an album is a story and
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: it's crafted with intention. So this is your lead song,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: this is the beginning, and it's all about the journey.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And what's it called? Your eyes?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: All right, k x F M sad Sen send your eyes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Let's let's have a taste.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Lass so a three. I can feel through feel so.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Through.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I see small through I see you all through your three.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: Three, i'd see.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Through.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: I see the world through you, see small through you,
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: I see.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: Feeds through you, through yours, I see small.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Through, I see fees.
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: Through I see.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Quite beautiful through your eyes. You see the world.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yep, it's just again we all had mask on. We
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: were just communicating through our eyes and just found that
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: to be really a beautiful thing. I mean, if you
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: can't look at somebody in there eyes and communicate, I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: think there's something wrong.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Very lyrical? Yeah, beautiful? What what what is your inspiration
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: for this kind of melody and everything that you're taking.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: You said world influences.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, I like the mixture of all
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: the different instruments and definitely the world. And you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of different world music. But
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean I grew up playing blues. You know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I'm a blues guitar yea, yeah, So, And I think
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: it just has to do with all the journeys. You know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I've done probably one hundred and ten countries with my kids,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: you know. So I think so much of the inspiration
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: just comes from background. I think during COVID, again, there
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: was so much going on emotionally, just you know, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: not only I was my marriage after.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Years such I mean amazing that you took that time,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: and a lot of people really did use that time
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to find a passion, and it was in some ways,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it really was.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: For there was a lot of emotions. I mean, it
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: was just COVID, and then we had you know, the
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: whole thing going on in Washington. I won't mention his name, yeah,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: and then you know, I was going through some personal
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: stuff with my relationships. So I think there was just
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: like a boatload of stuff, you know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And you know, you've been on the grind, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: raising a family, working, working, as you said, this time
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: out to really indulge in something that is a passion
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: that you feel deeply.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, what a gift. Well, this next song is
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: about life and again this was you know one again
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: would have gone through all of the inner fighting in Washington,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: you know, when Trump was president, and you know, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: just kind of looked at it from a global basis
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: and how you know, it's just you know, it just
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: moves from one thing to another. This is called life.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And where did you compose this song of this this
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: song I actually also wrote on a boat.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: My god, it's so romantic. I can't even believe it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: All right, you're going to start from the top here, Yes,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: there we go.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: What's it called keeps It's called this is called life.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Life a x f M.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: It's Shane Saday.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Wake up in the morning and look at the sky.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Say back in the evening and look at the star.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Watch the song go down.
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: Wonder it's gone. The work keeps going on on and
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: around around the world keeps going around and around and
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: around and around.
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: Doesn't really matter where you are, doesn't really matter who
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: you are.
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: Everyone wonder why we're here.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: Everyone wonder what's the mission?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Everyone is though whos.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: To follow up?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: But no one knows why we are here.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: No one knows where we are going.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: No one face it's so watch this go down. Wonder
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: it's gone.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: No girl keeps going no no, Around.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: The world keeps going around and around.
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: I see fire, I see rain.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: It all seems to be the same.
• 33:46
  Speaker 13: I see love, I seem hate.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: It all seems to feel the same.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: Fancy clothes and shiny cars doesn't really make you who
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: we are.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: It's a shame. There's so much pain and it all
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: seems to be seen.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Watch the sun go down?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Why know where it's gone down? We'll just keep something.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: And the.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: World keeps going around and around and around.
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: Head around, go on to like really.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: Tight and let it go while going around.
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: There is a reason I am told on when you
• 34:40
  Speaker 13: have never know sit.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: Back and let it go or ride it all will flow.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Around and around.
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: It goes.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Around and around.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Goals.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: That was beautiful.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: We're going right into another song here. Yeah, so this
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: is you know. I. After sailing Crushia, I went into Turkey,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and Turkey was one of the countries I was again
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: open and during COVID and so I found this really
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: a cool instrument in Istanbul and it's called the sauce
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: and inspired for this song. And then from there I
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: went to i Grove through Turkey, and then we went
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: to Montenegro. So I think this as I was learning
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: how to play this instrument and I went through all
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: these different places. So the songs inspired by that part
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: of the world. Let's take a listen. What's it called.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: It's called are you there? Are you there? With what
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: kind of mandolin? It's well, this is the octave madeline
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: and it's also a sauce sauce.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: We're getting a lesson in world music.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Everybody, Hello, you're there.
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: Left you a message the other day.
• 36:12
  Speaker 15: Call me, call me if you're there, as soon as
• 36:16
  Speaker 15: you dare, if you dare, if you dare, meet me
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: in Istanbul under the big Blue Dome.
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: There will be lots of people ringing and facing love
• 36:39
  Speaker 12: big blue sky.
• 36:49
  Speaker 13: I'll be standing there.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Holding my heart and.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: You will see me there.
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: If I miss you there, will you then? Meet me
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: in Montenego. I will be waiting there in the Cotto Square.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: There will be lots.
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: Of byzantinees every way.
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: See me standing there.
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: With my heart in the air.
• 37:45
  Speaker 16: Hello, are you there?
• 37:48
  Speaker 13: Left you on message the other day?
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: Call me?
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: Call me if you're there.
• 37:59
  Speaker 17: As soon as you there, meet me in there A gosh,
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  Speaker 17: I'll be leading in.
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  Speaker 2: The big square.
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  Speaker 15: There will be monkeys, some gypsies dancing everywhere.
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  Speaker 13: I'll be in hell off the square with my heart
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  Speaker 13: in the air. Hello, Hello, are you there?
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  Speaker 16: Left you on message the other day?
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  Speaker 3: Call me?
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  Speaker 15: Call me if you're there, as soon as you dare.
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  Speaker 15: I'll meet you there.
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  Speaker 2: Only if you dare.
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  Speaker 12: Me Santrope, I will be waiting there in really square.
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  Speaker 7: There will be lots of farmers selling all their flowers.
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  Speaker 8: I'll be sent there.
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  Speaker 7: With my heart and be.
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  Speaker 2: Alwaysten that my heart in the air.
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  Speaker 3: You will see me there. That was beautiful, seen. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: love this kind of Middle Eastern. Was that there's topplas
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  Speaker 3: we were listening to it was.
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  Speaker 4: That was a sash and a twelve string guitar and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: a octave mandolin.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And what was the rhythm section as what was the percussion?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: The percussion was a it's a it's like an Indian
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And this was all recorded you said in a home
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: studio and Lisa, yeah, yeah, this is uh mission via
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Hill yeah, mission Villa Hill. What do you By the way, I.
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  Speaker 4: Wanted to shout out to this singer which she's got
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  Speaker 4: a fantastic voice and.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: She's so put that mic a little closer.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: She's so talented, Sophia Orlando's she's local, She's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: How did you guys come together? How did you find it?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I met her through Mark, who put the music together
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: for me. Yeah. So anyways, I think I got lucky
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you with with with a great talented team.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Here hauntingly beautiful. What do you plan to do with
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: this album besides take number one on the charts?
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna give it to my mom.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Christmas gift.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm going to do.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the main thing is, I mean, if you
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: do it for the love of it, it doesn't matter, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the idea.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And just to have this moment in time where you
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: took a moment to really explore your musical abilities and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: really push too into new things, That's really what it was. Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: And it seems like it's such a part of your
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: trip in Turkey and Croatia to have kind of memorialized
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: that time in your life with this music. It's really beautiful.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: What's the next song?
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: The next song is no one said a thing, And
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: it really has to do you know again, I was,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: you know, I got together at my AX when I
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: was nineteen years old and out a forty seven year marriage,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and I think it's just, you know, it just shows
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: that in relationships you got to constantly work on communication,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: and you know, you've got to nurture relationships. You know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: you just get kind of parking there. I think people
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: that are have long term relationships seem to kind of
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: get goofy about about things. You know, everybody kind of
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: goes their way, and so this really has to do with,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: you know, just paying attention.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: So this is a little more grounded than some of
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the other songs in terms of the lyrics, which were
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I would say, somewhat more ethereal. But this is a
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: little bit more about interpersonal relationship. Probably okay, keep it vague,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: because you know, as an artist, you let us interpret
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: what it means. All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 13: No one said anything.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody even try to stop to me.
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: How I now? Could I tell you?
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: It all seems so so we.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Stop?
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: It was so so good.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Me do Let let me go home? Me, let let
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: me go.
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  Speaker 13: No one say say no be even tried to talk
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  Speaker 13: to me.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Howard I have known?
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: It all seems so so really.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Stop your so so good home, be me let let
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: me go? Hold me.
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: Please Not.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: No one said say not even Chad to talk to me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: How would I have no?
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: It all seems so so we sung we yourself so good.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Home, Let me go.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Wow shaheen. That was a little more rocking here. You're
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: really showing kind of a diverse musical vocabulary.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I'm all over the places. Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: So, and that was about relationships and the next song
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you're going to play is about.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: What the next song is really about. I wrote this
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: up in Big Star. It's probably one of my favorite
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: areas in California. And I think at some point I
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: just really like every one of us, regards of who
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: you are, where you live and all the indifferences, is
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: everybody's looking for love or everybody needs love. And the
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: name of the song is called love Will Find Me.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Before we jump in, give us a little sense of
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: your creative process, Like what is creativity? I always wonder
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: is it just an energy that comes through you and
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: you grab it when you when you feel a lyric
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: or does it start with the music you're strumming and
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: you add words to it? Where does it begin for you?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Well, when I was a very young kid, I used
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: to write poetry. And you know, I was born in Iran, Persian,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: and I moved to America in nineteen sixty five. I
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: was eleven years old, but so it was pre when
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I was eight nine, ten years old. I actually have
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: a poetry book. The problem is I can't even read.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: It because it's in Farsi.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: In Farsi, and I don't read the language anymore, so
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I'll have to have somebody try. So I've always of
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: poetry just you know, I mean Persians love poet. Yes, yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: of course, and uh so. But then you know, I
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: think what happens now is I probably write the music
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: first and then you know, the words sort of just
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: come to me.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: It depends on the mood or you are, you know
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: what you're feeling.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's hear this next one. Love will
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Find Me, Love will find.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: K x f M.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Blogging down the street. It's so dark out here, I
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: don't really care.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: I can see sitting by the sea. It's so cold
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: out here. I don't really care.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: Driving in the rain, I don't really know where I
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: am going.
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: It doesn't really matter to me.
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: I don't care.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I can feel that you hear some with I just know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: You're so so.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I know you can't feel me. I can't te me hello,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: find me. I know I'm not I know, I know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: Sitting home alone, it feels lonely out here.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I don't really care, cause I know you on you.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I know we'll find you some day. I know I
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: will see somebody.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Staring at the sky. Hey, so many, so many sighs.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I just know you're there.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: I can't tell.
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: Watching dates lazy goo bye, watching pla. Oh, indeed, I
• 51:26
  Speaker 9: will be sitting you.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I know you.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: I will not stop lady.
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: By me.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: it's gonna find me.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Experience truly a song for our times. Beautiful shaheen. What
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: an album?
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: This is not basic three chord twelve bar music. You
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: really are adding all kinds of changes lyrically. It's a masterpiece.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you for saying that, and that means a
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: lot you poured yourself into it. It's my first rodeo
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: here so I'm open for any suggestions and you know improvements.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Well, you're debuting it here on our community radio station
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: kx FM, and this is the first hour of our takeover.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: So anybody who's inspired by what we can offer you
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: with original voices and talent of our local community, please
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: show your love by going on to KXFM radio dot
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: org click takeover and you'll see a little drop down
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: box and you can donate to Shaheen's hour and maybe
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: he'll be the Silver Tongue Award recipient this week we'll
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: find out, but.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: That would be awesome.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the trophy is amazing. What else you got? I
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: think we got probably room for one, maybe two more songs.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Use them in. Next song is called Passage, and it's
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: really about just, you know, transitioning into new relationships and
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: bringing closure to maybe old relationships.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: And here it goes, and it's called passion, pass Passage, Passage.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Here we goes, Shaheen Sadeiga.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: We were young and full of dreams and.
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: So much laughter.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Moving on and carry on.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: Your soul journey, finding.
• 54:36
  Speaker 16: New place, build a new home, wish a new world.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: Nothing but the.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Worst, Oh love, amory.
• 55:06
  Speaker 14: Will be held Tired children will grow father of Flace.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Building with all.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: Wish, nothing but the bed, all the memories with me,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: help children will go.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I will hold.
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: Don't to.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Those are the time, but that seems to be.
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: No, and.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: So that's all down told.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: We are.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Children, no girl, fine.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Lush.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Okay. We want to give Shaheen's album as much play
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: as we can get and we just have a few
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: minutes left and we want to play one more song.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: And I first want to thank you for coming in
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: and sharing your gifts with us. And normally I tell
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: people when they're endeavoring on a new career or a
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: new passion, I said, don't quit your day job. But
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: in this case, I'm going to suggest that maybe you.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Do pray for me.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Ray, Hey, it's been a pleasure. Tell us about this
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: last song as we go out.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: It's kind of a renaissance song. And then like meeting
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: someone amazing and want to spend your life with them,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: and it's called dance with Me.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Oh great way to go out. Thanks for the hour, Shaheen,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: and and dance with me Dance with me on k
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: x FM and stick around. Chase Confetti is next. Here
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: we go
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  Speaker 9: M