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Ohio State Recruiting Insider: Are The Buckeyes Going All-In At Defensive Tackle? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, August eighteenth, time
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  Speaker 1: on today's show. We're going to welcome in recruiting insider
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  Speaker 1: Juck Maletti from Buckeye Insiders dot com. He just wrote
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  Speaker 1: an article about how whether the Buckeyes are maybe gonna
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  Speaker 1: be going all in at defensive tackle in twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what, not only is that
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  Speaker 1: a great show, I can even steal that as a
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  Speaker 1: title for YouTube, So there you go. You can see
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  Speaker 1: the all in thumbnail on YouTube already. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: part of the question, Juck, is that they're going all
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  Speaker 1: in potentially could be at defensive tackle in twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of that has to do with what they
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  Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty seven, where they put a lot
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  Speaker 1: of resources in the defensive line, but more at the
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  Speaker 1: end position.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a whole new conversation we get to
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  Speaker 2: have now with roster construction. Where it used to be
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  Speaker 2: you're just going for the best you could get everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's where would it make the most sense to
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  Speaker 2: invest the most at which position? And the prerequisite for
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  Speaker 2: that time is having those relationships to begin with with
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  Speaker 2: those guys that you can then invest in. And when
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  Speaker 2: we look at defensive tackle, they have successfully established in
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  Speaker 2: relationships with some of the top tier guys that they
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  Speaker 2: really really like and the interest is reciprocated, which now
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  Speaker 2: puts them in the position if they want to go
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  Speaker 2: all in to be able to continue to push in
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  Speaker 2: that direction. And I think it would fit awfully nice
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  Speaker 2: coming off the class of twenty twenty seven with the
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  Speaker 2: defensive end pool they got in addition to Carrie Wilder
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  Speaker 2: and Drake Quinn in twenty six, and.
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  Speaker 1: They already have a very good start at the defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle position for twenty twenty eight. If you pull up
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  Speaker 1: the top the two four to seven income posit. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking about three of the top four guys
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  Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle spot on this show, and plus
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  Speaker 1: a couple other guys, one who I really really liked
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  Speaker 1: it camp. We'll get to him a little later on.
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  Speaker 1: But the good news for Ohio State is they've already
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  Speaker 1: got one guy in the class who is a top
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  Speaker 1: four defensive tackle in the two four to seven composite,
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  Speaker 1: and that's Jamiir Weiss. And I think that's a name
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  Speaker 1: where they got him a while ago, and it might
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  Speaker 1: have even been earlier before the rankings had to even
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  Speaker 1: come out. So I think it's just a name that
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  Speaker 1: people heard and went, oh, good, they've got They've got
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  Speaker 1: an in state guy. That's wonderful. That's already a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good building block for this class.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fantastic start, obviously. I mean it's similar to
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  Speaker 2: starting twenty twenty six with or twenty twenty yeah, twenties
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  Speaker 2: or six with twenty twenty seven. These are all getting
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  Speaker 2: jumbled and we start getting out a couple years with
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  Speaker 2: Jamiir Brown where he was an early five star, and
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  Speaker 2: you know he's in so long in advance that it
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  Speaker 2: tends to slip people's mind what a big deal that
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  Speaker 2: was getting him. That's the same deal with Jamir Weiss,
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  Speaker 2: who's a legit, you know, five star monster on the
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  Speaker 2: defensive line out of Trotwood Madison and a guy who's
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  Speaker 2: just football in the family, older brothers play football. He's
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State all the time. We've seen him several
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  Speaker 2: times down there hanging out. He's a humongous young guy,
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  Speaker 2: moves great, and he is actively trying to peer recruit
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  Speaker 2: other guys, like some of the guys we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: here today on this show. So he seems really locked
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  Speaker 2: in and that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from Trotwood Madison down in the Dayton area,
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  Speaker 1: and it is not all that far down. I seventy
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  Speaker 1: five from Dayton to Louisville, Kentucky and the Christian Academy
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  Speaker 1: of Louisville. Sorry, Lousville, got to say it correctly. Kellen
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  Speaker 1: Hall the number one defensive tackle in the two four
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  Speaker 1: seven Composite for twenty twenty eight. He's someone that we
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  Speaker 1: saw at camp back in June. And you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you see the guys. You're like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I can kind of see it. This one was like, yep, yep,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I understand where this is coming from.
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  Speaker 2: He dazzled, There's no doubt about it. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: he checks every single box six four, two sixty five.
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  Speaker 2: And they have played him offense line, defensive line, all
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  Speaker 2: over the defensive line for the time that he has
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  Speaker 2: been there, and he is excelled everywhere from the edge
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  Speaker 2: to the nose in some pretty quality football. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: not like it's some podunk football. He plays in a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good league. And what maybe is most impressive as
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  Speaker 2: you talk to him, he's like a twenty two year
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  Speaker 2: old guy already and he absolutely loves Ohio State, loves
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  Speaker 2: Larry Johnson. They have a great relationship. Larry has gone
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  Speaker 2: down and visited him at his school, one of the
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  Speaker 2: first coaches to do that, and that really stands out
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  Speaker 2: to him as well as the proximity of Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: He wants his parents to be able to watch him
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  Speaker 2: play every Saturday. He's you know, every time he says
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  Speaker 2: he comes up, he falls asleep and when he gets
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  Speaker 2: up there there in the on the car ride. So
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  Speaker 2: everything looking really really well for Kellen Hall as the
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  Speaker 2: Buckeyes and the Sooners I think currently lead the way
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  Speaker 2: right now in his mind, number.
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  Speaker 1: Two defensive tackle in the closset Ts eight. And again
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  Speaker 1: I'm using the two four to seven composite here that
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  Speaker 1: is Tison Swan. And I know this is a guy
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  Speaker 1: you wrote about this in your article. This is a
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  Speaker 1: guy where you you know, the opinions have changed a
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  Speaker 1: little bit here on Taizan Swan.
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  Speaker 2: So this is interesting Tom. When we were at camp,
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  Speaker 2: and this was a separate day from Kellen Hall. After
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Hall incomes the number two defensive tackle in the class,
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  Speaker 2: Tizon Swan. And looking at these two, in comparing these two,
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  Speaker 2: I've and seeing them, you know, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: it's back to back or maybe one day in between. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't the same. It's not the same. Taizon Swan
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  Speaker 2: was not really checking the boxes for me. He wasn't
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  Speaker 2: stacking up. And granted I didn't spend the entire camp
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  Speaker 2: with him, but I came away thinking, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's he's good. He's maybe a top two
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  Speaker 2: fifty is kind of guy, but that ranking sure to change.
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  Speaker 2: And then I watched his film, which I hadn't watched
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  Speaker 2: ahead of time, and He's an absolute demon, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: a total monster, an insane stat stuffer like numbers I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen a long time from an interior defensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: And the get off is there, everything's there, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just like, did this guy just have a horrendous day?
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  Speaker 2: Was he not into it? What was the deal with him?
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  Speaker 2: When he was at that camp and friend of Larry
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  Speaker 2: Johnson that didn't look anything like what I'm seeing here. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what would we prefer? We prefer he balls out on
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  Speaker 2: Friday then has a great camp, But you'd like both
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  Speaker 2: of them there. Nonetheless, I'm sold now I wasn't when
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  Speaker 2: we left camp. And this is a guy who again
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  Speaker 2: interested in the Buckeye, is a kid from Maryland, and
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  Speaker 2: he's not anywhere close to narrowing down his choices. He's
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  Speaker 2: still at about ten. He has committed to taking a
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  Speaker 2: visit at Ohio State, hasn't chosen the date yet for
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  Speaker 2: this season. That's amongst like seven other visits that he'll
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  Speaker 2: be going on. So we're a long ways out on
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  Speaker 2: ties on Swan, but the relationship is certainly there and started.
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  Speaker 2: There's been you know, visits and content and it's moving
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  Speaker 2: in the right direction. Should that be a guy they
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  Speaker 2: need to go on, but definitely Kellen Hall the clear
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  Speaker 2: number one target for LJ.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, another guy from the state of Maryland. This
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  Speaker 1: is Nicholas Stephens. He comes from DeMatha High School, which
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  Speaker 1: is a school that the Ohio State defensive line room
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  Speaker 1: and Larry Johnson very familiar with the Matha High School.
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  Speaker 1: You may remember that school from such players as Jason
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  Speaker 1: Moore and oh yes, by the way, Chase Young. I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine when you're recruiting a player from de Matha
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  Speaker 1: High School Chase Young, and the thumbs up from Chase
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  Speaker 1: Young to a defensive line coach is probably not a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing for you.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. And Nicholas told me he really wants to
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  Speaker 2: keep that, you know, the tradition going pumping out top
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  Speaker 2: tier defensive lineman. And of course Jason Moore he was
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  Speaker 2: a top seventy five player in the country coming out
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully maybe this year he can reach that lofty status.
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  Speaker 2: He's looked much better than he ever has. But Nicholas
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  Speaker 2: Stevens is far as you know the rankings, this is
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  Speaker 2: a borderline top one hundred ish guy, so not quite
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  Speaker 2: as top tier as the other two. We talked about,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly one of these guys that would count as
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  Speaker 2: a really really huge score coming in like a Carlos
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  Speaker 2: may as a top one hundred guy. And I really
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  Speaker 2: like this game. He's a bigger guy than Kellen Hall
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  Speaker 2: and Taisan Swan. He's pushing three hundred pounds and he
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  Speaker 2: moves you know, just a tick, just a tick slower
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  Speaker 2: and just about everything. But that's elite for a guy
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, about two hundred and ninety three pounds now.
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  Speaker 2: So really like his game, love his film. And he
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  Speaker 2: told me that right now, LSU, Tennessee and Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: are the three schools that he's got at the top
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  Speaker 2: of his board. Also another really really impressive kid like
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Hall. When it comes to maturity and the type
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  Speaker 2: of guys that Ohio State, right the requisite for Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State to be able to do this, they got to
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  Speaker 2: believe in you as a guy. You got to be
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  Speaker 2: a responsible, you gotta have the right priorities, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: be you know, intelligent and have goals. And these guys
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't talk to tyes on Swan, but Kellen
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  Speaker 2: Hall and Nicholas Stevens certainly fit the bill of guys
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  Speaker 2: that we could see them going in for.
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  Speaker 1: And one more guy who is come from a pipeline,
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  Speaker 1: well not quite a pipeline, but a school where Larry
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  Speaker 1: Johnson has pulled some very talented players in the past
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  Speaker 1: from JT. Towey Moloowis High School, East Side Catholic in
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  Speaker 1: Seemish with Washington Aiden Havili And we don't always have
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  Speaker 1: the full list of campers every day when we show
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  Speaker 1: up at those June camps. And he was not a
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  Speaker 1: name that I had on my list as a oh
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  Speaker 1: watch out for this guy. He was one of this
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  Speaker 1: is my favorite kind of player at those camps. The
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  Speaker 1: who is that guy? A who is that guy? Tony
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  Speaker 1: Gerderman and I were in there. They were on the
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  Speaker 1: indoor at that point, and Tony Gerderman and I like
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  Speaker 1: looked at you other, like, who the heck is that?
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  Speaker 1: And he is three hundred and twenty pounds. He does
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  Speaker 1: not move like he is three hundred and twenty pounds.
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  Speaker 1: He feels like he is going to be That is
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  Speaker 1: a guy you just look at and go, yep, that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a good college football defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what man I talked to Tony. Now
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  Speaker 2: this I missed this camp. I talked to Tony and
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  Speaker 2: you during or right after. I think you know, that
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  Speaker 2: excitement kind of said it all, you know. Obviously, different
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  Speaker 2: player from the guys that we just talked about at
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds, also really sawed off at
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  Speaker 2: about six one and a half and the type of
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  Speaker 2: guy that you know some schools shy away from Larry
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  Speaker 2: doesn't Larry will you know? That doesn't bother him one bit.
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  Speaker 2: He'll take that sawed off three hundred and twenty pounder.
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  Speaker 2: That is one of those dancing bear types. But the
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  Speaker 2: foot speed shows up on the film. I know Tony
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  Speaker 2: was just blown away by his feet at the camp.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a guy who has shot up the
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  Speaker 2: rankings here over the summer because everywhere he went. He
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  Speaker 2: did what he did with you guys at Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: which was just who the hell's that guy? And that Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's a big time deal. Now, obviously Washington is heavily
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  Speaker 2: in trying to keep the Washington kid home, and he
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  Speaker 2: has interest all over the country, but definitely the Buck
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  Speaker 2: guys with a good in over there at East Side
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  Speaker 2: Catholic with G Scott and J. T Twomlol, So things
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  Speaker 2: look pretty nice for a potential relationship building there, and
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  Speaker 2: this would be a guy that you'd certainly love to
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  Speaker 2: have here in this class.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, one five star defensive tackle already in
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  Speaker 1: that class at twenty twenty eight. For more names there
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  Speaker 1: to know, and there's gonna be plenty more recruiting to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. We still got to gotta said, see them
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  Speaker 1: finish the twenty twenty seven class before you get fully
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  Speaker 1: can turn the page to the twenty twenty eights. But man,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about. There's already a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine thread on the insiders board at Buckeye insiders
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  Speaker 1: There's been a ton of recruiting talk. If you enjoy
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