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Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 22 2026 · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is not very far now as we
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: roll into the Thursday edition of the program until the
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  Speaker 1: midterms will officially be here. I am one of roughly,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's 18 million people now who have already voted.
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  Speaker 2: Buck, have you voted?
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  Speaker 1: Are you really going to ask me these every day?
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  Speaker 1: Every day? I'm going to vote week one.
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  Speaker 2: I committed to week one. You get off my lawn, Travis.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to point out for the record that
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  Speaker 1: I love America more than Buck because I have already
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  Speaker 1: voted and my ballot has been cast. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that many of you out there are continuing to cast
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  Speaker 1: your ballots as well because we have one of the
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  Speaker 1: largest early vote turnouts that we have seen. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think at this point, We should be paying a
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  Speaker 1: lot of attention to what the early votes look like,
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  Speaker 1: more so than what the polls are telling us might occur,
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  Speaker 1: because we have actual data that is significant. There are
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  Speaker 1: 18 million people who have early voted now all over
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  Speaker 1: the country. And what I would say, and this is
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  Speaker 1: very significant, there is virtually no difference in the percentages
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  Speaker 1: that have voted so far and what happened in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. In other words, the Democrat percent and the
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  Speaker 1: Republican percentage, even though way more people have voted in
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  Speaker 1: 26 than 22, meaning early voting is getting more popular.
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  Speaker 1: We are sitting in a situation where in 2022, the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat early vote favored them by 18 points. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat early vote favors them by 19 points. The
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  Speaker 1: overall vote in 2022 was in favor of Republicans. Now, again,
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  Speaker 1: this is with 18 million votes in. Independents are not
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  Speaker 1: being counted here. So if you think that independents are
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  Speaker 1: going to overwhelmingly break one way or the other, that
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  Speaker 1: could certainly end up being the big storyline. But for
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  Speaker 1: people out there that are being told, oh, Democrats are
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  Speaker 1: so much more energized, Republicans have no hope, which is
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  Speaker 1: what they are trying to send the message of through
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  Speaker 1: the polls that they continue to cite. 18 million people
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  Speaker 1: have voted, and it is nearly buck identical to what
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  Speaker 1: we saw in 2022 in terms of the percentages. I
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  Speaker 1: like actual data as opposed to the polls. That is
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  Speaker 1: the current real-time actual data for all of you.
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  Speaker 2: Things are, and we're not just saying it, looking good
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  Speaker 2: relative to where they were a month ago for Republicans, meaning...
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  Speaker 2: that if you think of this as a horse race, remember, Clay,
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  Speaker 2: we were at Kentucky Derby with our boss. That was
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  Speaker 2: so fun. If you think of this relative to a
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  Speaker 2: horse race, even if the Democrats going into the final
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  Speaker 2: stretch were ahead by a length or two, you can
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  Speaker 2: see the Republican horse surging here at a key time
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  Speaker 2: and might just be able to get ahead of them
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  Speaker 2: by a nose. I believe that's the terminology. at the
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  Speaker 2: finish line in some of these key races. It's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be a red wave. We're not overpromising. It's
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  Speaker 2: just close enough that you could have some. For example,
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  Speaker 2: if we win Michigan, Clay, I think everybody would have
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  Speaker 2: to say, great win by Mike Rogers and breathing a
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  Speaker 2: bit of relaxation, a breath of relief coming out of
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  Speaker 2: all of us if that were to occur. Maybe it does,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't. NBC's Steve Kornacki, he's one of their
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  Speaker 2: analyst guys. He's a poor man's Ryan Gerduski, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: This is what he said, cut one, about how, well,
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  Speaker 2: you'll hear it yourself. Play it.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other one.
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  Speaker 4: On the other side, Republicans think they can flip a
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  Speaker 4: Democratic state here. Again, in 2024, Trump carried the state,
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  Speaker 4: show you what it looked like. Relatively closer for Republicans,
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  Speaker 4: they've been trying for decades to flip Minnesota. What they
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  Speaker 4: think is working in their favor here is there's a
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  Speaker 4: state scandal there about Medicaid fraud. The governor, Tim Walz,
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  Speaker 4: didn't run for reelection, I think, because of it. This
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  Speaker 4: is his lieutenant governor. And Tafoya, the Republican, has been saying, look,
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  Speaker 4: if you're upset about that scandal, don't vote for the
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  Speaker 4: lieutenant governor. There does seem to be a tide within
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  Speaker 4: the state that might be working against Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: Clay, I think if there's going to be one place
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  Speaker 2: where we see a, oh, wow, win for Republicans, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Texas is home turf. We've got to defend Texas. If
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  Speaker 2: Michelle Tafoya wins that Senate seat in Minnesota, that would
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  Speaker 2: be a huge underdog story. And she can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would 100% be a monster underdog story. And
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  Speaker 1: so this is also part of the storyline that I
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  Speaker 1: think is starting to play out here, which is Minnesota's
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  Speaker 1: been a deep blue state for a long time. If
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  Speaker 1: you're upset and you're listening to us in Minnesota right
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  Speaker 1: now with where the country is, President Trump being president
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  Speaker 1: for a year and a half isn't the reason why
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  Speaker 1: $ 9 billion in fraud happened in Minnesota associated with the
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  Speaker 1: Somali population. In fact, the only reason you know about it,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue, is because President Trump is in office.
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  Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan has been the lieutenant governor of Mike Walls
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  Speaker 1: for eight years. And for eight years, I think Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: has gotten progressively worse. If you're upset about the direction
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  Speaker 1: of Minnesota, you're upset with the Democrat Party, with Peggy Flanagan.
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  Speaker 1: And the question that Michelle Tafoya is asking, which is
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  Speaker 1: a really good one, is what has Peggy Flanagan done
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  Speaker 1: to suggest that she deserves a job promotion? Most people
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  Speaker 1: who have as poor of a record as Peggy Flanagan
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  Speaker 1: would get fired. They wouldn't get a better job. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think Minnesota... Michigan, New Hampshire, those are all
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  Speaker 1: locations with current Democrat senators where Republicans are making a
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  Speaker 1: real run with very strong candidates. And any one of
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  Speaker 1: those three, Buck, if Republicans win, and I would add
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  Speaker 1: in Maine, if Susan Collins wins in Maine, any one
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  Speaker 1: of those four I think the math becomes virtually impossible
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  Speaker 1: for Democrats to have any chance of taking back the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel that is that is a win on
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  Speaker 1: blue state turf. Any one of those four, if any
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  Speaker 1: of those happen, Republicans are retaining control of the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: I feel more confident about it for the toss ups.
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  Speaker 2: I feel good about Texas. I refuse to believe that
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  Speaker 2: Texas is not going to elect Ken Paxton. Like I
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  Speaker 2: just I will come in here and. I don't really
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  Speaker 2: wear a hat, so I'm not going to eat my
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  Speaker 2: hat because I don't wear a hat. I will come
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  Speaker 2: in here and do a big mea culpa if Texas
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  Speaker 2: somehow lets us down. I think Texas is going to
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  Speaker 2: be fine. I also think Susan Collins is going to
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  Speaker 2: win in Maine, which is a really nice pickup. And
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  Speaker 2: it's a reminder that, you know, you take the best
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  Speaker 2: you can get where you can get it, and she's
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  Speaker 2: about as good as you're going to get for a
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  Speaker 2: Republican in Maine. She's not a Republican. She's the only one.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy. She's the only Republican in all of
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  Speaker 1: New England.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In Congress.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I love New England. I think New England,
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  Speaker 2: you and I disagree on this because you just say
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  Speaker 2: it's because the pilgrims landed here first or whatever. I
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  Speaker 2: think New England is one of the most beautiful parts
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  Speaker 2: of the entire country. And it hurts my heart that
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  Speaker 2: it has been politically conceded to the communists. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know why we can't. New Hampshire. OK.
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire still is a little sane, but it's closer
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  Speaker 2: than it should be in New Hampshire. But Vermont. Vermont
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  Speaker 2: is like it is like a commune with nice maple syrup.
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  Speaker 2: Like Vermont completely lost its mind. Connecticut, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: love Connecticut as a state. And they've got lunatics running
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  Speaker 2: the show out of Hartford. And then obviously Massachusetts is
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  Speaker 2: I think the second bluest state in the country or
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  Speaker 2: maybe the blue. It's right up there. It's one of
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  Speaker 2: the most Democrat states in the country. It's certainly top three. But, yeah, Clay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you on on the way these races are
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  Speaker 2: looking right now. President Trump, by the way. out on
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  Speaker 2: the campaign trail, I do think people might say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not, yeah, he's not there to win over
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  Speaker 2: the kind of casual, maybe he's going to show up
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  Speaker 2: independent voter, you know, the I'm not that into politics, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: He is there for base turnout, and he is there
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  Speaker 2: to remind people that the Democrats or the Democrats, as
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  Speaker 2: he calls them, yeah, they can tell you that things
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  Speaker 2: aren't perfect. They also will make everything worse.
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  Speaker 1: They are the cause of why people are upset about
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  Speaker 1: affordability in general. And I do think, I believe, correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, guys, I think this is live. J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance is right now in Nebraska. He's also on the
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  Speaker 1: campaign trail trying to rally the troops. Increasingly, it seems
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  Speaker 1: like these fever dreams of Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa even are fading,
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  Speaker 1: as we told you they likely would. Ohio is a mess.
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  Speaker 1: I think if we want to point to a red
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  Speaker 1: state that is won by double digits, Greg Abbott is
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  Speaker 1: going to win in Texas. I think Ken Paxton is
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  Speaker 1: going to win, too. I'll be stunned beyond belief if
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  Speaker 1: Greg Abbott doesn't win. You guys in Texas, get out
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  Speaker 1: and vote. Ohio's a mess, Buck. Ohio is a mess.
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  Speaker 1: It is far more competitive than it should be. Open
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  Speaker 1: governor's race. Senate seat that is already held by Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: John Husted needs to win that race. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people out there right now that are, I think,
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  Speaker 1: nervous about what's going on in Ohio. And as a
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  Speaker 1: show that has been number one in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati, Ohioans.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're starting quarterback Julian saying is out at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. And so you're a little bit depressed over that.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be really depressed if you have a
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  Speaker 1: crazy Democrat governor and you reelect a guy who you
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  Speaker 1: fired two years ago to come back into the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to vote Husted. You've got to vote for
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. And there's a lot of apprehension, I think,
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  Speaker 1: setting in in Ohio. Not to be the Debbie Downer buck,
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  Speaker 1: because usually that's your role, but if you wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to point to a red state where I am nervous
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  Speaker 1: about what the trend lines look like, it would be Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're cooked in Ohio, and I hope Ohioans
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  Speaker 2: prove me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you're even more negative than me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, no. Well, Vivek is pulling down the whole ticket, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a few reasons why, but the most recent
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  Speaker 2: thing is he ran this ad, and I know JD
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  Speaker 2: is out there saying, oh, stop being like a wimp,
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  Speaker 2: or he's saying, you know, This is politics. Put on
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  Speaker 2: your brass knuckles. Yeah, I'm okay with that attitude if
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  Speaker 2: the ad is working. The problem with the ad is
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  Speaker 2: it's blown up in his face. So it's not about
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  Speaker 2: being tough. It's about being smart. And the ad is
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  Speaker 2: not a good... Do you know what happened? They've got
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  Speaker 2: Acton's mom. I've looked into this. They've got Acton's mom
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  Speaker 2: basically saying that she's lying about her childhood. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she was... There's a court record. She was sexually abused
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  Speaker 2: as a child. And this is, you know, now now
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  Speaker 2: Vivek has weighed into this sort of and it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: It's and it looks a little bit like a lie.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, look, Vivek would be better for Ohio than
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  Speaker 2: the other than Amy Acton. There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 2: He's much smarter. He's much more capable. He's you know,
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff is true. It's just there's only so much, guys,
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  Speaker 2: only so much we could do here to kind of put,
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  Speaker 2: you know. nice candy-coating topping on some of the decisions
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  Speaker 2: that are being made by some of these Republicans. So
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  Speaker 2: I hope that the blowback on that ad is not
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  Speaker 2: as big as it seems, but it looks bad right now.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit, Buck, of the garbage
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  Speaker 1: talk when everybody got fired up about the Madison Square
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  Speaker 1: Garden rally. What I said last night, I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to my wife about it because she asked me about it,
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  Speaker 1: is it feels like the kind of ad you run
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  Speaker 1: if you are behind. I think that's fair to say,
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  Speaker 1: because it's a risk. If you are up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big as should be the case in Ohio, in a
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  Speaker 1: governor's race, then I don't think you take the risk
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  Speaker 1: of running an ad like that. And if you're down
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  Speaker 1: and you're trying to scramble and shake up the board and, and,
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  Speaker 1: and make a comeback, I think you take bigger risks
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  Speaker 1: in your campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Also, I think you're right. Here's the problem. Also, um,
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  Speaker 2: If you tell me that Watley, by the way, pulls
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  Speaker 2: off what feels like a miracle now, and maybe he will,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: North Carolina, get out there and vote. We have a
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  Speaker 2: huge audience in Raleigh, a lot of you listening all
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  Speaker 2: across the state. Cooper's a tough candidate, and that's a
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  Speaker 2: tough state, you know? Let's just be honest about this.
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  Speaker 2: This is like, there are sometimes, you know, Clay, you've
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  Speaker 2: coached athletics. I actually coached a little athletics. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: just lose to a better team, or you lose to
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  Speaker 2: a team that's having their day, and that's that. In Ohio,
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  Speaker 2: Trump handed those candidates... what should be effectively a double
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  Speaker 2: digit lead.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: If they lose, it's because they have absolutely screwed up.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just, this is the coach speaking to the team.
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  Speaker 2: That is the truth in Ohio. If Vivek loses, it's
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  Speaker 2: all on Vivek because Trump handed that, hands him a
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  Speaker 2: 10 point, 11 point lead right off the bat. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a little more tough to take that one. Whereas,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you look at some of these other races
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  Speaker 2: and other places, you know, Sununu's got a huge uphill battle.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Michigan is a dogfight. I mean, we get it, right?
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  Speaker 2: There's what's fair and what's true. So hopefully, Ohio, I'm
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  Speaker 2: totally wrong about my frustration. Because I feel frustrated. We
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  Speaker 2: should have Ohio in the red, good to go, and
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  Speaker 2: we don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: That's why, to be fair, that's why I think we
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  Speaker 1: have to point sometimes. If you said, OK, Clay, you're
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  Speaker 1: optimistic about the race that Michelle's running. I'm optimistic about
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  Speaker 1: what Mike Rogers is doing in Michigan. Optimistic New Hampshire
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  Speaker 1: is going to be close. Those are all blue states.
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  Speaker 1: What red state are you most nervous about in the
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  Speaker 1: entire country? Right now, for me, it's Ohio because you
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  Speaker 1: got the governor's race and you got the Senate race.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't feel comfortable about either right now.
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  Speaker 2: And just a little quick happy talk. Iowa, we're going
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: to be fine. Iowa, we're going to be fine. Iowa
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are going to win. Don't worry about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Senate seat, for sure. Governor's race, a bit more of
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  Speaker 1: a toss-up. I'm not as confident.
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  Speaker 1: because i've voted so i appreciate uh that you know
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  Speaker 1: everyone in america millions of people listening right now if
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: they were thinking who's the better american clay or buck
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  Speaker 1: they have to answer me because i voted So we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to address this, obviously, so that I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to hear this every day.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go vote early soon. And I
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  Speaker 2: recommend you all do the same when you can, where
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: you can. That would be the way to go. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I want to take a little diversion here for a second. Clay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: let's enter the world of sport, something you are familiar with.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: We could have a sports ball conversation even for a
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: moment here. I did play some paddle yesterday. He's doing
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: quite well. Some people are saying he's got a nasty overhead,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Some people would say it's a bit expansive to consider
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  Speaker 1: that to be a sport.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: There are many people, mostly in Latin American countries right now,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: who are very upset at you, I will say.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Argentina just turned off the radio.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Argentina and our Madrid audience just dwindled substantially with that comment.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this. LeBron James... just got the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: attention of the presidents of the united states so i
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: feel like why not explain and talk about this for
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: a moment what's going on here and clay you're gonna
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: have to do a little bit of of freudian analysis
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of mr lebron for me once we get through the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: latest news here. First off, I did see a video
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: of him, I believe it was not an old video,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: where he was very aggressively yelling at some guy in
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the crowd who had said something, like said that he
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: fouled someone or something like that, which I get it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: athletes are hyped up in the moment, I understand. I've
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: seen people at country clubs playing for nothing other than
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: bragging rights smash rackets and curse and completely lose it
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: so you know people are people professional athletes are not
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: perfect i get that but that's in the heat of
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: battle before a game when the national anthem is playing
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: we all know what's going on we all understand what
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: is symbolized here and and what the respect is that
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is being shown uh who you know why we are
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: showing that respect And LeBron James, well, this is what
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Trump wrote, Clay. While listening to our national anthem, LeBron James.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: disrespects our country. I said it right from the beginning.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: He's no good, a total disgrace. LeBron James should apologize
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to all those great American warriors and heroes who died
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: for the American flag and all that our country stands for.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: This is from Donald J. Trump. And, Clay, he was
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: practicing a golf swing during the national anthem? I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I get it. I don't like when people police, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you were standing still at attention, but you should have
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: your hand on your heart, or you should be saluting. Okay,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: if someone's being respectful and standing quietly, they're being respectful
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and saying, golf swing?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the video is out there. I don't know if
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: we have it up on the YouTube page. I shared
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier today, and it wouldn't shock
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: me if that's where the president ended up seeing it
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: because it went a little bit viral earlier this morning
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and after last night. So for those of you who
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: do not know, and by the way, the WNBA is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: having their own issue with this. So LeBron James has
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: made over a billion dollars. That is billion with a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: B playing basketball in the United States. That is, I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: would think, a reason to be very appreciative that you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: are fortunate enough to live in a country where because
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you happen to be good at putting a ball in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a hoop, you can become a legitimate billionaire. LeBron, I think, Clearly,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the NBA season just started is trying to send a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: message by practicing his golf swing during the national anthem.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Every other member of the Philadelphia 76ers, I'm surprised LeBron
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: went to a team named after him. The the founding
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of our country here. But every other player is standing
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: as they are required to do under their NBA contracted
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: rules for the national anthem. As you would expect, people
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: might be standing for the national anthem. There is a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the singer was, but there is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a performer, as often happens at a sporting event. who
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is out on the court singing the national anthem. This
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: is the, I believe, home opener. You guys can correct
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I do not pay a lot
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of attention to the NBA regular season. I believe this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was the home opener in Philadelphia. I know they played
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden against the Knicks on Tuesday night
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because I was up in New York and the Knicks
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: were hanging their banner and everything else. So I believe,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, that they
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: were back in Philadelphia. LeBron now is playing in Philadelphia. flying,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: by the way, Buck, which as a New Yorker I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: think you will appreciate, flying on a helicopter back and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: forth to commute so he doesn't have to live in Philadelphia.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: This is the rough stuff to Philadelphia, I'll tell you.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: The Philly-New York rivalry is real. To be unwilling to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: find a place to stay in Philadelphia such that you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: are flying in a helicopter back and forth to New
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: York City while you are playing for a Philadelphia area
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: team is just... It's a sign of incredible privilege, right,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to be able to fly on a helicopter from one
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: city to another multiple times a day, in theory, so
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that you can choose to live in your preferred city.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: But to be unwilling to just stand for the national anthem,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I think LeBron knew exactly what he was doing. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to your point, Buck, There's no reason he needs to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: have a good golf swing for his basketball performance. He
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: evidently has gotten into golf. He has a golf YouTube
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: channel now where he goes and plays a lot of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: different golf rounds. He's getting close to retirement age. This also, Buck,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: is happening in the WNBA. The WNBA is even worse.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: They are refusing to come out on the court for
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the national anthem in the WNBA finals, even though they're
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: contractually required to be there as well. So all of
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: this is, I think, indicative of the sports world universe
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that hates Republicans and hates President Trump and has convinced
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: themselves that this is the worst country that's ever existed
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and Remember, you've got WNBA players coming out and saying
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that the country is trash. We talked with Enos Cantor, Freedom,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: about this. By the way, he was not allowed, I think,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to attend a game again as he has tried to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: declare to be eligible for the WNBA. We talked about
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the fact that, at least I believe, there's likely players
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in the WNBA who are not XX chromosome, and that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is why they won't have a basic sex test to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: determine who's eligible to play and who's not. Um, but, uh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: here is Enos, by the way, this was at the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: WNBA game last night saying that he's getting death threats
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: because he has decided to identify as a woman cut 19.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: What's the worst death threat you've gotten?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I'll show you one right now. It says, you'll be
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the next Charlie Kirk. It is pretty disgusting. My DMs
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: are full of pictures and videos of the moment that
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk got shot. And they're saying that you're going
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to be next very soon. I've been getting thousands of
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: death threats already. Just simply said, I'm going to be
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: there and enjoy the game.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And attend the game.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: And for that, people in Atlanta have been sending me
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: many death threats. We are in touch with the FBI.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: We have our own security. We have a conversation with
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the governor, and he's providing us security as well.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Imagine getting death threats, Buck, because you are mocking the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: fact that people don't know the difference between men and women.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Well, this is also a reminder that the people who
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: are extremely invested in emotionally and psychologically in the trans issue,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about necessarily trans people. That's a very,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: very small subset of the population, right? But people who
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: feel very strongly about the trans issue tend to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a little crazy or really crazy and dangerous, as we
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: have seen, willing to become violent over this issue. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: will never forget, I told you a very mainstream conservative
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: writer who has been writing about, and all of you
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: would know him, but it was kind of an offline conversation,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: so I don't want to name him. This is over
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a decade ago, and he told me, of all the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: things he had written on, abortion, race relations, everything else,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: more death threats, more consistently writing on the trans issue
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: than anything else. Crazy. That is.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Indicative of the people who are the most invested in
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the issue. You get a lot of crazies on the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: trans issue, and Enos, he's got to take that stuff seriously.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say, Clay, I wish I could just,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you know, you could laugh it off and be like, oh, yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, in a post-Charlie Kirk world, of course you
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: can't laugh that stuff off. We have to take it
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: all very seriously.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's unfortunate that we are in this space.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Let me also correct something. This was evidently Buck at
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. So it's the opening of the NBA season.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the person that was there to sing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I would tell you I'm sure the Knicks had an
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: incredibly talented performer because they're dropping their championship banner, first
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: one in 53 years. Tonight is the opener for Philly.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And again, I just think it's emblematic of how many
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: people in sports aren't willing to have gratitude, that they
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: get to play a game for a living, and that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: they get paid sums of money that make them fabulously
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: wealthy to the rest of the country and for people
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: who say well i don't know why they have to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: sign stand for the anthem they collectively bargained as a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: part of their contracts to agree to do that right
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he's violating his contract you know if you sign a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: contract with a plumber and says you're gonna fix my
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna fix my sink and they just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: say yeah i'm not gonna do it okay they're breaking
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a contract like the same thing with athletes signed a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: contract you're supposed to honor your end of the contract
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: um I would say this.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I really like your take on this from a while ago, Clay.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And it's one of those ones that I just kind
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of steal now. So hope you're cool with that. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that is that people have to understand at this level,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of you might have sons or
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: daughters who played college athletics and they work so, so
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: hard and you're so proud of them. And that's all
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: amazing and true and real. At the LeBron James level,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: it's just a gift from God. I mean, he's just
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: he was it's almost like. the female equivalent of being
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a supermodel. Gisele Bundchen, I'm not saying she didn't work
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: at it. Victoria's Secret models.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And NBA draft picks are genetic freaks. Yes, you can
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: refine your ability, but you don't become a six-foot-tall gorgeous
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: woman entirely because you do a little bit of extra
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: leg lifts, and you don't become an NBA draft pick,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: lottery pick, without being a physical freak. Those bodies just
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: don't exist very often.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And so you've won the you've won the genetics lottery.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: And I like your comparison about what supermodels without because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: people assume like athletes like they just they just wanted
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it more like they just fought harder. The difference between
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: most D3 and D1 athletes. And I've talked to coaches
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: about this actually before, like at my even at my school.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: It's actually not work ethic or skill. It's just physical gift.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's size, speed, strength. That's really the difference for the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: most part in most sports, certainly in basketball and football.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody says in sports, Buck, you know this, there's two
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: things you can't coach, size and speed. You can make
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: people better based on those criteria, but you can't take
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a slow guy and make him fast. You can't take
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: a short guy and make him tall.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And I just, with LeBron James, yeah, he's like, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: guy's made a billion dollars playing basketball. He's globally famous, whatever.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He's kind of a spoiled brat. You know, he's kind
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of a spoiled brat. I just, you know, people can say, oh,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: but he's worked so hard for it. He gets to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: play a kid's game and be a superhero to a
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: huge portion of the world and make unbelievable amounts of money,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and he can't just show a little respect for the anthem?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I knew guys who got chewed up by IEDs in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Iraq for this country, and they were making $ 30, 000 a
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: year for soldier pay or whatever. LeBron James can't show
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a little respect?
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's a problem.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I would just say this. The average... Truck driver works
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: harder every day by far than LeBron James does.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Way harder.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Way harder.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Way harder.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: You can only work out a couple of hours a day.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You have to work. If you're listening to us right
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: now in a truck, you have to work. 8, 10,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: 12 hours.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Every day minimum. You really helped open my eyes to this,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: which is that this notion that professional athletes just work
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: so much harder. They make obscene salaries, are incredibly famous,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: basically can pick whichever swimsuit model they want to marry. Like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are in a coal mine somewhere, okay?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: They're working a lot. Well, not really in America these days,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: but you get what I'm saying. They're working a lot harder.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Showing up to a job that you have to do
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to pay rent that you need to survive, that's a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: lot harder than being... It is more difficult than being
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a professional athlete. Most of you work harder than the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: average pro athlete. That's just true.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, Avery Wilson, don't know him, Broadway actor
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and singer, Grammy-nominated R & B artist. If you are
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: disrespecting the anthem, you're also disrespecting the person who is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: singing the anthem on the court with you, directly in
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: front of you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Again, I just think that LeBron did this intentionally. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think he is sending a message to people on the left.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I don't respect this country. I don't respect our anthem.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Bet you, Buck, that he wouldn't have done this during
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the Chinese national anthem. I bet he would have been
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: standing up tall and straight and staring right at the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: China flag. Anybody want to take that?
• 31:57
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• 35:51
  Speaker 2: clay word, a monster podcast, like absolutely just giant numbers.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And that's fine, and I love when people do really well,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and I'll listen. Sean Ryan's a friend. He does a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: great show, and I really enjoy a lot of the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: guests he has on. Obviously, Joe Rogan has become an institution.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: There are so many other podcasts, and they're all doing huge.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: There are huge numbers, and that's great. But when they
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: give a message that I view as kind of poisonous–
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's something that we have to address. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I think that young women in this country, obviously I'm
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: neither a woman nor am I particularly young, but young
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: women in this country are getting a lot of really
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: bad messages and they're getting some very bad messages from
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: this call her daddy show, uh, which I view as,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and I've seen a lot of clips because the clips
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: will go viral as extremely, um, Degrading, superficial, narcissistic, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: really just degenerate. It's really just like a degeneracy machine
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: for women. They think of it as like liberation and
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: like you go, girl. No, it's terrible. It's not good.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And here's a classic example, and Clay and I can
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: talk about this a bit. Here's the advice on the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: show for women who might be having a troubled moment
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in their marriage. Play it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: We can get really, really in our heads about, Oh
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: my God, I feel like I'm, maybe I shouldn't leave
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: this marriage because can I even get better? And the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: answer is always yes. The answer is always yes. And
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this idea that it's too late or you're too old
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: or who are you to want more?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: That's patriarchy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. We don't need it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Clay.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Now you, you have got the real veteran status here,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going into year four of marriage, but I've also
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: observed a lot in my 44 years of life and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: see who's happy and who's making good decisions. Marriage is
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: not about maybe I could break this off, blow up
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: my whole life, destroy this household, leave my kids with
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a non-intact marriage as their model because I think I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: could get something better. That's actually not what marriage is
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: supposed to be at all. I also think it's Almost always,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: unless there's like abuse or there are some circumstances where
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I understand that, you know, a marriage essentially needs to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: be does need to be.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Over.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Although, you know, the Catholic Church says there's really no
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: such thing. We've talked about that another time. But, Clay,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: this telling women, hey, if you're having a bad moment
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: in your marriage, you can always do better is pure
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: brain poison for them. It's brain poison for men, too,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: by the way. But she's speaking to women.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: It's often totally wrong, but I'm big on looking at incentives,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: so I haven't heard this clip before. So here's what
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I would say in general. I believe 80% of divorce
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: is initiated by women.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: 75-80%.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I saw that stat, and it was staggering to me.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: 75 or 80% of divorces are initiated by women. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: think it's because... This is the message that women get
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sent by a lot of their media now. That you
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: should cut and run. That you can do better. If
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you're unhappy, you should leave. Now, to your point, Buck,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: if you're getting beaten up, legitimately assaulted, this is a
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: very different conversation. Physical abuse is a different conversation. Most
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: women are not going to do better than the guy
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that they have.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: 80-20. I come to this from an incentive culture basis, Buck,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: where I look at this and say, why would it
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: be 80-20? I think we need to go back and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: reassess the way that we apply divorce. I know there's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people out there listening
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: right now. and I would say for men or women,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: if you initiate divorce and you walk out on your family,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should get alimony. I don't think
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you should get support. And I understand some people out
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: there get riled up about this, but I'm saying for
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: men or for women, because there are men that will
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: break up their relationships and walk out on their family.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: If you make that choice, that's your right. I'm not
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: saying that you should never be able to leave a
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: marriage because But I don't think you should be rewarded
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: for leaving a marriage. And I think a lot of
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the reason that many of these women are making this choice, Buck,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: is because they're getting paid even if they're walking out.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And then we can dive into courts are still in credit.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And look, I know there's a bunch of dads out
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: there that get fired up about this topic. Courts are
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: still very biased when it comes to who gets primary
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: custody of children. It's almost impossible for a man in
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a divorce to ever get primary custody of his kids
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: because courts are biased in favor of women. I believe
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it extends across the entire divorce process. Women can go
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: online and they can look and they can say, my
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: husband makes this much dollars. I know exactly what I'm
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: going to get in alimony without having to do anything.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I just think that's wrong. I think no fault divorce
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: is wrong. And this is me getting on my, my pedestal.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: If you're the fault, imagine if we didn't, uh, all
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the time, no fault car accidents. So if you just
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: saw somebody driving in a nice vehicle, if you just
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: hit them and that people try to do this for
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: fraud so that you're going to get paid out. I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: just think that we, that the way that we end
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: relationships in America, it may have made sense in the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: 1950s when women clearly did not have equal, uh, rights
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and equal power in the same way in the courts.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think the whole system is very slanted in favor
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of women. And I would just say, Buck, if you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: disagree with me, why are 80% of divorces initiated by women?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I think the incentive structure favors women who want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: walk out on relationships more than it favors men. Because
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Some of you would just say, well,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: men are 80% of the problems in all relationships. No,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't think most of you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: out there would buy it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Uh, look, this is a big discussion that brings in
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of things, but being flippant and telling somebody,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, if you are, um, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: can only speak from a Roman Catholic perspective. I, you know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I assume this is true of other Christian denominations as well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and maybe in different ways. Although, you know, some of the,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: like the Anglican church, we can talk about that another time. Um,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: not gonna, not gonna, not gonna start a religious war
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: right now, but I would say, uh, Marriage is for life,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and it's a sacrament, and it's a promise made between
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: two people. And there's very clear stuff said about it
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: that I think people, for richer, for poorer, sickness and
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: in health, it's not easy. And my mom always says
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: it's a vocation, that this is something that you give
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: yourself to and that you put work into. First of all,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Alex Cooper is married. The other woman, Sophia Bush. Alex
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Cooper just had a baby. Yeah. The other woman, Sophia Bush,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: she's been married three times. So I'm not sure you
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: want to take marriage advice from her. I'm just going
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: to put that out there. Start with that. I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: one of her marriages lasted six months. So not a
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: great track record. And these are things, you know, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: was you gave me on incentive structure. I just think
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you look at it and say, why are so many
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: women initiating divorce? It's because you're looking at it like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a like a lawyer. I'm looking at it more from
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: like this sort of, you know, spiritual and important sacrament.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Clay is like bottom line. They get too many dollars
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: too fast. This is crazy. My client doesn't deserve this.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And I agree with all that, too. But I'm looking
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: at this, Clay, more just from the life outcomes. Let's
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: put on our Jordan Peterson hats here for a second.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, what are you trying to do? It's like, no,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: stay with it. You've got to actually decide that you're
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: going to work with your spouse to build the day-to-day
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: life that you want, where you support each other, where
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: you love each other. And it's also... Assuming you have kids,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, not everyone can have kids, and I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: think people need to be very sensitive about that too,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: by the way, because a lot of people I know
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: have a lot of trouble, have tried and everything else.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: But when you have kids involved, they're more important than
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you are. I don't know what else to say. Like,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the kids' needs are more important than your needs, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: we have a society that's always telling everybody, oh, but,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: you know, you go, girl, especially for the women. You go, girl, and,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you know, men who cheat, for example, Clay, are maligned, right? Now,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I understand people might say some of them become president
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: of the United States, and that's also true. But socially
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: speaking and generally speaking, you are.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Considered a bad guy when you step out on your
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: wife or, you know, people have a very, very negative
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: view of that. Women who just decide that they want
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to get married to somebody else or that there's something
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: better out there. This is what the podcast is saying.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: This is like empowerment for you. Oh, there's something better
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: out there. You know, Clay, the show Billions was actually
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: one of the first shows that lost me over pure wokeness.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: which was the tranny 23-year-old, and then we had a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: love scene. I'm like, I'm out. I couldn't do it anymore.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the show. There was a little weird S &
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: M stuff, too, that I didn't like, but I enjoyed
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the show until that point. There was one scene, though,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that was kind of a minor scene, I guess, and
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: probably most people don't really remember it who watch that
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: show Billions, but I'll share it with you, and I
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: might have mentioned to you before. It's a scene that
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: stuck with me more than anything else, and it's the
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: main character, Chuck, whatever his name is, Do you remember
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: his last name? I don't remember. He's played by Paul Giamatti.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And he's sitting with his very successful lawyer friend who's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: got some super hot blonde yoga instructor girlfriend that he's
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: funding her yoga studios and everything else. And she's kind
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: of like in the realm of male fantasy. She looks
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: like a pinup girl. And she gets up and she
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: goes to the bathroom when they're at a fancy sushi restaurant.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And he looks at his buddy Chuck. Chuck Rhodes. Thanks, guys.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: He looks at his buddy Chuck Rhodes and he goes...
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: yeah she's you know great i'd give it all up
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to be back with marcy on the couch with the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: kids not divorced yeah that really i i feel like
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: one of the writers in that writer's room either is
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: or knows somebody who's divorced and because that really came
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: from a deeper place don't ever give up being with
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: marcy on or you know or phil or bob or
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: whoever on the couch with the kids guys Unless I
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: agree with Clay, you know, physical abuse, substance abuse. There
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: are times when it's too much is too much and
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you have to be able to take care of yourself
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: as well. But this you go, girl, you go find
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: your knight in shining armor and leave your husband behind
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: attitude poison clay because I've seen it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: It was all over the place. Shattered marriages all over
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: New York City. Somebody trying to trade up somebody trying
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to go for the newer model.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I just look at that 80% and I say, again,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: as my rational brain, you can't explain why women do 80%
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: of divorce decisions just based on, well, men are wrong 80%
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of the time and are unlivable. I think men put
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: up with a lot. My bet would be to only
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: be doing divorce 20% of the time, only initiating 20%.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I think we have a broken legal system that treats
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: women more fairly than Which is actually, if she wants
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to talk about the patriarchy buck, it's actually because women
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: weren't treated fairly back in the 40s and 50s. They
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't get out of marriage. And we overreacted in the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: 1960s with the policies that we put in place, which
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: are leading to the incentive structure that is being followed
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: today by so many women.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Just I look at the end results like the same
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: thing with open border. It's a rational thing if you
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: live in a crappy country to try to get to America.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a rational decision, but we shouldn't encourage it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Too many people in the rowboat, the whole rowboat goes under.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: That's America with the borders.
• 48:12
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• 48:16
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• 48:20
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• 48:23
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• 48:26
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• 48:28
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• 48:32
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• 48:36
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• 48:40
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• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in hour number three rolling through the thursday
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: edition of the program we head now down to the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: sunshine state where byron donalds is poised to become the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: next governor Of the state of Florida, early voting underway. Now, Byron,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on with us. I'm not the kind
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of guy to throw anybody under the bus, as you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: well know. But I voted early in Tennessee already. So
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: my ballot is in. Marsha Blackburn is going to be
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the next governor of Tennessee. You're going to be working
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: with her. But the guy who actually lives in Florida,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, has not yet voted. This makes me a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: better American than him. Don't you agree? And what would
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: you say to others in Florida like Buck Sexton, not
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to throw him under the bus, but who have not
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: also gotten out and voted early yet?
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I want to thank you for throwing Buck under
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: the bus like that. Yeah, Buck, you need to get
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: out and vote, man. You have a lot going on.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Make sure your voice is counted, your vote is counted,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: your voice is heard. I think, look, for people in
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: our state who still haven't voted, we know you're going
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: to get out and vote. Just make sure you have
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: a plan. Make sure you execute that plan. Our state's
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: a great state. We want it to continue to be
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: the best state in America. That's only possible by people
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: going out to vote and make sure that we don't
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: have Democrats come into Florida and run this state because
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: they'll do what they did in so many states up north.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: They'll run it into the ground. We have to make
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: sure we keep Florida as the free state of Florida.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: But I'm looking at Buck personally. Buck, you need to
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: go vote today.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second, Mr. Soon-to-be-Governor Byron. I just want
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: to point out that there's a nickname for Clay. It's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: called Halfway Clay. Because he's owning property in Florida, but
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: he's Mr. Tennessee, right? So he wants to have his
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: cake and eat it, too. He's like, I want all
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the greatness of Florida, but I'm going to also have
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a house in Tennessee. They call me all in buck
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: for the great state of Florida. All in. because I'm
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: all in on Florida, and I will be out there
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: voting early. It's going to happen this week. I talked
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: to Wifey. We've got to get it done. So we're
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: going to get that early vote done. But tell me this.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: What are you seeing and hearing so far about that
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: early vote? And if you could just take us around
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the state a little bit, what are some of the
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: trends that are looking good for your campaign right now?
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Florida Republicans are starting to show up at the polls.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: It's something that we knew was going to happen. Actually,
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Republican voters, by absentee, actually returned their ballots, the ones
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: that wanted to vote by mail, at a higher percentage
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: than Democrats. And that's a good sign. We're starting to
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: see the momentum pick up in early, early voting. It's
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: only been a couple of days with that so far.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: And so we anticipate that's going to continue as we
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: work our way up to Election Day. And then on
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Election Day, we see a lot of Republicans are going
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: to be turning out on Election Day. Our big thing
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: is just make sure your vote is counted. Make sure
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: you get out there. Make sure you vote. And the
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: reason why we're pressing this so much is that the
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: only way we keep Florida as the best state is
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: you have to get out and vote. You have to
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: vote for all the things that you love about our state,
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: law and order, common sense, protecting young kids, empowering families
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: and parents and education, making sure we have low taxes
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: and low regulation. We have to work on affordability. My
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: plan is lower insurance premiums, 20% in the state of Florida.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: We're going to lower the cost of housing in Florida.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: But you got to make sure we keep the same
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: consistent common sense policies that have made us the best
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: in America.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: We're talking to Byron Donald's early voting underway. Everybody in
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Florida needs to get out and vote. We're going to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: come back to serious things. But I know you were
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: at the Florida State Miami game this weekend. And I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: know as governor, you will be called upon to represent everyone,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: even though you're a huge Florida State fan. How bad
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: was the holding call in the second overtime that negated
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a Hail Mary touchdown, and are you over it yet
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: as a Florida State fan?
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: It was egregious. I don't know what the referees were
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: looking at, and I don't want to throw them under
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: the bus too much because I shook their hands at
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the game. I'm thinking, okay, we're going
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: to call it down the middle. That holding call was
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: not holding. I think everybody knows that. But I also
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: got to tell you, We missed a couple golden opportunities
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: in that game as a Florida State fan. When you're
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: deep in Miami territory like that and it's fourth down,
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: you've got to kick field goals. Kicking field goals is okay.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: You don't want that to be the recipe for the
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: entire game, but it's a rivalry game. You're on the road.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: You've got to take the points.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Byron, I know you have a big responsibility. not only
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: as we believe, and certainly if sanity prevails, the future
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: governor of the great state of Florida, but also there's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: some very important down-ballot races, and you've been sharing the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: stage and out there on the stump with some other
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Republican names. For example, how is it looking? I mean,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: can you just speak to a little bit Senator Ashley
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Moody against Angie Nixon, how that's looking and any insight
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: you can give us on are we feeling good about
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: where that is?
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's looking good. And, you know, Ashley's going to win,
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: but I don't want to beat a dead horse. But,
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: you know, Buck, you're Mr. All-In, so I got to say,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: people got to be all-in. You got to go vote.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: That's the way it is. If you don't go vote,
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: that's what puts a seat like that at risk. But
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: we know Republican voters in Florida are going to make
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: sure they get out and vote. But Ashley has been
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: campaigning hard. She's going to continue to do a great job,
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: and we think that she's going to win. She's going
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: to be successful on November 3rd as well.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: What's... Well, for some of the you know, this this
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: might also help to get out some of the you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem, Byron, you're not problem. But
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the thing that we want to avoid is people just
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: assuming that Florida has been has become so red under
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Governor DeSantis that somebody else will do the voting for you,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: so to speak. So I agree with you. We've got
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to get everybody out there because it's also important to
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: send a message that this is Fortress, Florida. You know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we need you to win by eight, nine, 10 points.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: We need this to be a big, a big victory.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: But I was wondering if you could just give us
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: a sense. It's the first 90 days of your new
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: term as governor. What are you doing in Florida? Because
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of the rest of the country looks at
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Florida as a leader on these issues and initiatives, a
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: place that's doing it right.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: We're going to be laser-focused on affordability. Insurance, like I
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: said earlier, our plan lowers premiums 20% in the state
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: of Florida. We're going to be working immediately with the
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: legislature to get that accomplished. Also, permitting reform. Most people
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: don't know that 30% of the cost of a new
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: home is government, not a roof, not appliances, not furniture,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: but it's government. So we have to modernize permitting in
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: our state. We want to make sure that we are
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: building efficiently so we're not artificially driving up the cost
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: of construction just because of government timelines and government permitting costs.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: So those are the big two things that we're going
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: to be laser focused on. The third is our Launchpad Initiative.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: We want children in Florida If they're not going to
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: the university system, we want them to be able to
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: have an apprenticeship or an internship or some on-the-job training
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: so they can get the skills they need so when
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: they graduate high school, they can hit the ground running
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: and walk directly into a high-paying job. It's going to
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: be laser-focused on affordability. That's what the voters of our
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: state are looking for. It doesn't matter if you're in
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Miami or you're in Pensacola, Florida, Tampa Bay, or Southwest
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: Florida where I live. It doesn't matter where you are.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Affordability is the thing that people are thinking about. It's
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: on their minds. We have to lower costs in our state,
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: and we're going to do that.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: We're talking to the next governor of Florida, Byron Donalds. Byron,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: we mentioned the Senate race with you. You're running on
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the governor's side. They also redrew the entire congressional map,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: as you well know, because you have been in Congress
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: for the past several years representing southwest Florida, the Naples area.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Would you also want people to understand that there are
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of battleground congressional races and people need to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: think not only about the top of the ticket with
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you and the Senate, but the down ballot, making sure
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that Florida has as many Republicans in Congress and in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the legislature, wildly important. I'll let you make that pitch,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: particularly because people may find out that they're in a
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: new district. Maybe they're not familiar. This happened to me
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee after redistricting. I try to stay pretty informed.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even aware what district I was in when
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I went to go vote.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right. I mean, look, I'll start with the
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: Tampa Bay region. We have Mike Beltran, congressional district 14.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: This is the new one. He's running against a career
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Democrat incumbent. We need Mike Beltran to be successful and
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: go to Congress. His opponent, Kathy Castor, she's voted for
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: everything that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden sent down the pike,
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: things that drove up, created the affordability crisis. She voted
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: for the open borders that was destroying this country. We
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: need Mike Beltran to win in Congress there. In Congressional
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: District 9, we have Dan Green, the Democrat, Darren Soto.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: We need Dan Green to get across the line. He's
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: somebody who's served this nation. He will be a great
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: member of Congress. You have, when you go further down south,
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: We have Casey Asghar. He's in Congressional District 22. He's
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: running against some weird progressive socialist. I can't even pronounce
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: the lady's name. It doesn't really matter. And, look, just
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: to show you how much I believe in our team,
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: Casey Asghar and I ran against each other for Congress
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: years ago. Six years ago, I ran against Casey Asghar.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: It was a spirited primary. But, look, at the end
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: of the day, he's going to do a much better
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: job in Congress than than his opponent will be. If
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: you live in Congressional District 22, this is Eastern Collier County,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Marco Island, Florida, Western Florida. You've got to get out
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: and vote for Casey Asghar. And Congressional District 25, we
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: have Scott Singer against Jared Moskowitz. Scott Singer will do
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: a great job for us in this country. It's about
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: making sure that the political views of Florida are represented
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: in Washington, D.C. Big battleground states. One last one I'll
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: throw out there, Sidney Gruters, Florida, 16. This is around Manatee,
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Sarasota County. Sidney Cruz is going to do a great job. People,
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: make sure you get out a vote for her as well.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: But we're going to have a great congressional delegation going forward.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: But if it stays that way, people have to get
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: to the polls. Please make sure you vote.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. That is the key message. And since I think
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: we've hit that one pretty hard, Byron, I did want
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: to see if I could get you to weigh into some, well,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: not treacherous territory, but contentious between Clay and me. And
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: that is looking forward, if I could, to 2028 is
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: kamala harris even gonna run what do you think byron
• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: a fun game that we play these days because it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: seems so wide open and i know you're focused on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: your own governor's race and all that and that's what
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you should be but we wanted just a fun soundbite
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: here on where you think kamala is does she even
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: run does she become the nominee who who do you
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: think is the top democrat to beat.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: Uh i don't really care but do i think she's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: gonna be the nominee no i don't think so I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: don't see how that's going to happen. I think the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: dark horse over there, it could be, you know, Beshears
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: in Kentucky. It could be Westmore out of Maryland. Those
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: could be like the dark horse candidates. But their party
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: is so crazy. You know, they're going to become more
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: socialist over the next two years, not less. They're going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: to continue to support more crazy policies over the next
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: two years, not less. I mean, look at what Bernie
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: is pushing right now. You know what the number one
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: issue is going to be in the Democrat primary for
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: president of the United States? Where do you support Medicare
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: for all? I'm telling you right now, the two big
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: things for them are going to be Medicare for all
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: and open borders. That's where the Democrats have gone. It
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: is a crazy party. So I really don't care who
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: their nominee is. I just know we need to go
• 1:01:31
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  Speaker 2: Going to get out there and vote for Byron Donalds.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Clay.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'll finish it by saying, like I pointed out
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: at the top, I'm a better American than Buck until
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: he actually goes and gets his votes done in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just busy taking care of my homesteaded primary residence
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: in the state of Florida, Clay. Not everyone can say that.
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  Speaker 1: Byron, you're lucky because I pay taxes without demanding hardly anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I like how Clay, you know, he votes in Tennessee,
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  Speaker 5: but he spends more and more time in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 5: I love Marshall, but I know why he spent more
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  Speaker 5: time in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, the beaches in Tennessee, the beaches
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee, not as nice this time of year, Byron.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Just saying. Just going to be fair there.
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  Speaker 1: Go vote for Byron Donalds. Byron, we appreciate the time.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Keep up the good work, and in 12 days, enjoy
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  Speaker 5: Listen, thank you, guys. Take it easy.
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