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- 0:00Today I want to deep dive into the amazing piece of research
- 0:03but the very famous VC firm A16Z created by the legendary
- 0:08entrepreneur Andreas and Horovitz.
- 0:11I think this piece of research gives us potentially the best
- 0:13insight into how things have changed when it comes to
- 0:16enterprise. So those with the big money
- 0:18pockets buying AI products today, specifically in today's
- 0:22episode, I'm going to talk about three things that I think I
- 0:24learned from reading their paper.
- 0:26The research was based on interviews and surveys with over
- 0:28100 different CIOs, so chief information officers across 5
- 0:33different industries. Now, these are the people that
- 0:35buy big AI products for their companies.
- 0:39And what it shows us is how things have really changed when
- 0:42it comes to AI purchasing, as you'll see in today's episode.
- 0:46One thing for certain, scale and speed of this adoption within an
- 0:49enterprise. So if you're building or selling
- 0:51AI, if you're working at a big company or just trying to figure
- 0:54out how the world of AI is changing, you're going to want
- 0:58to listen to the research findings in today's episode.
- 1:01This is in the leap with Jackal. I hope you enjoy the show.
- 1:15So I think we'll start with something that I find
- 1:18particularly interesting and really resonated with me.
- 1:20So two years ago, if you talked to any big, big companies about
- 1:24AI, typically the conversation was about how they can build
- 1:27these AI solutions internally. So they all have IT teams with
- 1:31developers and a lot of the leaders were thinking that we
- 1:35need to build our own AI capabilities or we can't rely on
- 1:38third parties for something that's strategic or the desire
- 1:42to maintain control over, I guess the AI destiny of that
- 1:45company. And these are the sort of things
- 1:47you'd hear a lot. The conversation has completely
- 1:49changed now, and I mean completely.
- 1:52The research found that 90% of enterprise are now testing third
- 1:56party applications for things that customer support.
- 1:58And what's really funny is that customer support was one of the
- 2:01areas where companies started to build an internal solution
- 2:04because obviously it seems straightforward.
- 2:06The use case was clear, the ROI was really obvious.
- 2:08Yet 9 out of 10 companies now are actively looking to buy
- 2:13rather than build. And it makes sense.
- 2:14Previously there wasn't solutions that were ready made
- 2:17for people to buy, and instead people were piercing together
- 2:20different pieces of technology and infrastructure to create a
- 2:23solution. And companies like Mindset have
- 2:26provided basically all of that infrastructure inside an AI
- 2:29development platform that's all integrated and works really
- 2:32easily to make it really simple for companies to build new
- 2:35features and things on top of it.
- 2:37But again, a couple of years ago, this just didn't exist.
- 2:40People had to innovate, had to really figure out which parts of
- 2:43the technology they should pick and how to glue it together and
- 2:46what to build on top of it. For example, the research said
- 2:49that in financial services, over 75% of customer support
- 2:53implementations are now just using third party applications,
- 2:56even in industries like manufacturing.
- 2:58So traditionally quite a conservative industry because of
- 3:02compliance has now gone to about 60% of them buying AI
- 3:05applications. And in the research, it actually
- 3:07cited a financial technology company discussing this build
- 3:10versus buy dilemma. And now this financial
- 3:12technology companies had a dedicated team.
- 3:15Apparently they were making really good progress and they
- 3:17said they were about 60% done. But when it came to new
- 3:21solutions popping up, they did a competitive analysis and decide
- 3:23we're going to build, we're now going to buy this and not build
- 3:26it. And basically because the AI
- 3:28native applications that they were buying are just better.
- 3:31And this is evident in some AI native applications in the world
- 3:35right now because, you know, some CTOS of big companies are
- 3:38saying that 90% of their code is AI generated from platforms like
- 3:43Cursor or Clod. And 90% is just a crazy number.
- 3:46You know, just 12 months ago, that was about 10 to 15% of code
- 3:51all generated by AI. And the fact that it's now gone
- 3:54from one in 10 lines of code to 9 in 10 lines of code in just 12
- 3:57months is kind of madness. It blows my mind a little bit.
- 4:00And now this is all data that's in that research report.
- 4:03Now you may ask then, OK, so people are now buying versus
- 4:07building. But I guess what, what is
- 4:09driving this? So when researchers ask these
- 4:11big enterprise CACIOS why they preferred AI native applications
- 4:16and they said it was just they were faster to innovate.
- 4:19And also the fact that they're building this from the ground up
- 4:21around AI makes just a fundamentally better experience.
- 4:25It's like the early days maybe of cloud computing, where
- 4:28initially every enterprise was trying to build their own cloud
- 4:31infrastructure. And then obviously AWS and many
- 4:33other big providers popped along and they just did it so much
- 4:37better. And it obviously became
- 4:39ridiculous to build your own. And I think we're seeing the
- 4:41same pattern play out with AI applications at the enterprise
- 4:44level. So if you're a technology
- 4:47vendor, so you're a SAS provider right now, I think you need to
- 4:50move really, really fast and move like your life depends on
- 4:54it. Because clearly you've got an
- 4:56opportunity to grab whether it's market share, do really
- 5:00incredible things because enterprise now want to buy best
- 5:03in class solutions. And the data on user
- 5:05satisfaction in the report backs all of this up.
- 5:08The research found that AI native solutions averaging an
- 5:10MPs or a Net Promoter score from their customers.
- 5:13So when customers vote on whether they like something or
- 5:15not are at 40 to 50 points higher than a traditional SAS
- 5:19company. That's a huge number.
- 5:21Now, I promise this isn't just a happy coincidence.
- 5:23But you know, our proposition to customers who are SAS companies
- 5:26and technology providers is essentially we're a development
- 5:29platform that helps them become an AI native technology
- 5:32provider. And we're seeing all of these
- 5:34same trends play out in real time because essentially we
- 5:37allow product management and dev teams to build customer facing
- 5:41AI features on our platform and then plug it into their product.
- 5:44So they become magical and AI driven.
- 5:46And what we're seeing at the moment is a huge number of
- 5:49people, I guess retrofit chat bots into their product.
- 5:53But an AI native company, this AI native technology provider,
- 5:57everything's controlled by AI. Everything's just controlled by
- 6:01natural language. You just, you tell the
- 6:03application what to do and then it does things for you.
- 6:06And I think over time, we'll start to see all interfaces melt
- 6:09away because really people just want to have a conversation and
- 6:12something happens. And then you'd given the results
- 6:14of that. And I think that's where all
- 6:15technology providers are going to be moving to over the next
- 6:18probably. I mean, I'm always ambitious and
- 6:20probably overly optimistic. I want to say 18 months.
- 6:23In reality, this is a journey that's going to go on for many
- 6:25years. But yeah, I think the research
- 6:27was just spot on here. So again, that build versus buy
- 6:31dilemma is ending an enterprise buying cycle and it's being
- 6:34driven by IAI native platforms and products just being so much
- 6:38better. Now let's move to another key
- 6:52thread. I think that was quite apparent
- 6:54in the research, which is, I guess, just this huge budget
- 6:57explosion. So when it comes to new
- 6:58technologies, typically you see gradual adoption.
- 7:01So you see pilot programs like we've seen then people start
- 7:05small and then a slow budget growth as technology becomes
- 7:09really useful and helpful and accepted everywhere.
- 7:11And it was only last year that a lot of Wall Street, for example,
- 7:15was asking, you know, will AI ever be helpful?
- 7:18Will it ever be accepted and bought by enterprise on a large
- 7:21scale outside of pilots? And so far, again, more
- 7:25predictions have been shown to be wildly false because AI has
- 7:29broken all of the rules. The research found that
- 7:32enterprise AI budgets have now grown 75% beyond what companies
- 7:36had actually projected spending. So they're spending 75% more
- 7:40than they thought they would be spending.
- 7:41And these were already quite aggressive projections.
- 7:46And what's even crazier about is this is the enterprise leaders
- 7:49are now predicting another 75% growth over the next year.
- 7:53To put that into context, typical enterprise software
- 7:55budgets increase maybe at 10 to 15% every year.
- 7:58So it's just a massive amount of spend and growth here in the AI
- 8:02sector. And the numbers aren't just part
- 8:04of this kind of insane story, because what's really
- 8:07interesting is where the money's coming from, because last year
- 8:11all the money was coming from innovation budgets, which are
- 8:13basically R&D. And essentially what that means
- 8:16is experiments. And that made-up about 25% of
- 8:18total AI spending. Yet this year, in 2025, that's
- 8:22dropped to 7%. So that dropped to 7% means that
- 8:25AI is, I guess, graduated from this experimental technology to
- 8:31now something that's obviously core to the business strategy
- 8:34because companies aren't funding this from R&D budgets, they're
- 8:37funding it out of their core IT budgets.
- 8:40You know, 77% from the research or according to the research
- 8:43comes from IT budgets. Now 16% from a business unit and
- 8:47only 7% from that innovation fund.
- 8:49Now, this shift I think has just huge implications that most
- 8:52people probably don't fully appreciate yet.
- 8:54When you're spending innovation budgets, you can just afford to
- 8:57experiment. You can pilot things, you can
- 8:58accept fairly, you can try crazy ideas.
- 9:01But when you're spending caller IT budgets, you need
- 9:03reliability, approving and guaranteed return on investment.
- 9:07You need vendors who can deliver an enterprise scale.
- 9:10And this is exactly why I think the budget shift is reversing
- 9:14that build versus buy. When you have an innovation
- 9:16budget, you could justify building things internally just
- 9:20because learning is part of the value.
- 9:21But when you have that core IT budget, you need solutions that
- 9:25work and you need them today. So in terms of the reasoning
- 9:28behind this, I guess budget explosion, the research
- 9:31highlighted 2 core things. First, it says enterprises are
- 9:35discovering loads of new use cases that they never really
- 9:38expected. Things like internal enterprise
- 9:41search, data analysis, processing documents, and
- 9:45they're seeing rates of between 60 and 80% adoption across a
- 9:48company, which is a huge number. I mean, if anyone's ever been
- 9:51given a new HR software, how many people ever log into those
- 9:55things? Second, which is really
- 9:56interesting, which is customer facing use cases and now
- 9:59starting to emerge at companies at scale.
- 10:01So one of the large technology providers that were interviewed
- 10:05as part of the research said that they've been mostly focused
- 10:08on internal use cases so far, but now what they're going to be
- 10:11doing is shifting budget and effort into customer facing AI
- 10:14solutions. I promise this isn't a terrible
- 10:17sponsored ad. It is just a happy coincidence
- 10:19because this is exactly what mindset is seeing.
- 10:21This is what we do. We allow technology companies to
- 10:24build customer facing AI into their products.
- 10:27And we're seeing this at scale, you know, agentic experiences
- 10:31and AI automations happening inside technology providers
- 10:35platforms is a quite a magical experience and something that's
- 10:39really difficult to achieve. You know, one of our customers
- 10:41actually had 20 pages of customer facing use cases that
- 10:44they were launching. And what's really funny here is
- 10:46internal use cases has limits. You know, an internal tool will
- 10:50always have that natural limit. You can only automate so many
- 10:53internal processes. But when it comes to customer
- 10:55facing applications, well, there's just almost unlimited
- 11:00numbers of them. So yeah, obviously this trend is
- 11:03particularly good for a mindset as well as many LLM providers,
- 11:06you know, which obviously it make a lot of money based on
- 11:08anyone ever using any form of their application.
- 11:24Anyway, let's move on to the third and final key trend or
- 11:28theme that I think came from this research, which is
- 11:31absolutely how wrong most of us were when it came to large
- 11:34language model providers. And this is where I personally
- 11:38was wrong. I predicted something that and
- 11:40now I have egg on my face. So conventional wisdom says that
- 11:44as a technology matures, they consolidate so enterprise will
- 11:48pick a winner. Big companies buy the smaller
- 11:50ones, everyone standardizes on typical platforms, and they
- 11:55drive down costs through volume. Now the AI market is actually,
- 11:59funny enough doing the exact opposite of that.
- 12:01And last year it felt like the large language model space was
- 12:04following the same pattern. They seem to be converging and
- 12:08becoming more and more similar and hard to tell, you know,
- 12:11which was better or why would I use this one over that one.
- 12:14And everyone thinks that the benchmarks are still silly.
- 12:18And really, we were assuming that that space was becoming
- 12:20incredibly commoditized, so it was only ever going to become
- 12:23cheaper and cheaper, which it is.
- 12:25But there's no differentiation on models anymore.
- 12:29Well, we were all wrong because now 37% of enterprises are now
- 12:33using 5 or more models in production.
- 12:36So not in testing, not in pilots, in full production.
- 12:40So that's up by 29% in the last 12 months alone.
- 12:42And when you look at experimentation, so companies
- 12:46experiment of different models, that number jumps to 52% and now
- 12:51testing over 5 models. Now maybe at first branch you
- 12:53might think, obviously that's just because no company wants to
- 12:56be locked into using a single large language model because
- 12:59enterprises have obviously learned that putting all your
- 13:01eggs in one basket and that basket being a single technology
- 13:04provider is always quite dangerous.
- 13:06But the research showed that this isn't the case.
- 13:09The main driver is actually otimizing for erformance based
- 13:13on specific use cases. Now, for those that listen to
- 13:16this podcast, every single week, I've covered how certain large
- 13:19language models have really specialized in certain use
- 13:22cases, and they've done incredibly well for it.
- 13:25And what I think this research shows people is that most of us
- 13:27have been missing a key fact, which is that the enterprise
- 13:30large language model provider layer has not been commoditized.
- 13:34Instead, it's actually specialized, which is again, the
- 13:36exact opposite of what everyone thought would happen just 12
- 13:39months ago. So some examples from the
- 13:41research where the Anthropics models excelled at coding tasks.
- 13:44We'll discuss that on the podcast before.
- 13:46But what's really interesting is actually nuance and
- 13:48specialization even within coding tasks.
- 13:51So Claude is seen to perform better on very detailed fine
- 13:55grained coding tasks, while Google Gemini is actually
- 13:57supposed to be better at high level system design and
- 14:01architecture conversations. So it's really interesting how
- 14:04even within a use case, there is sub use cases that models are
- 14:07now specializing towards. However, what is very clear from
- 14:10the research is that when it comes to dominance, Open AI has
- 14:13dominated everything. They have overall market share
- 14:16leadership. 67% of Open AI users are deployed non frontier models
- 14:20in production compared to just 41% for Google and only 27% of
- 14:24Anthropic. So it just shows that even
- 14:27though many of us criticize I guess the number of language
- 14:30models that Open AI have and gosh, how do I choose between
- 14:33this one or that one? Well, it's worked very well for
- 14:37them, but I don't know how long that will last.
- 14:40Google is rising really quickly. And according to the research,
- 14:43especially with big companies with minimum of 10,000 employees
- 14:47and I guess part of that is they've got a lot of
- 14:49relationships with big enterprise, lots of brand trust.
- 14:53And also most importantly is cost.
- 14:56For example, Gemini 2.5 cost $0.26 per 1,000,000 tokens,
- 15:01while GPT for one costs $0.70. So this means that Google is
- 15:05nearly three times cheaper. So price could become a major
- 15:08factor for these big companies when deciding which models they
- 15:11choose. But the challenge for these big
- 15:14companies is that switching costs become higher.
- 15:17So we've talked a lot on this podcast about what an agent
- 15:20actually is, which is just a set of configuration, which
- 15:23essentially is a way of organizing different prompts to
- 15:27an LLM on how it should behave in certain circumstances.
- 15:30And 2nd, it's a set of integrations and ability to
- 15:34orchestrate those different tools.
- 15:36But here's where things get quite complex because as big
- 15:39enterprises are now building more and more sophisticated
- 15:42agentic workflow. So we talked about this, the
- 15:45ability to tell the agent to do this, then that, and then that
- 15:48actually makes it very difficult to switch between models.
- 15:52So the research shows that 68% of enterprise now find it either
- 15:56difficult or very difficult to switch models, which is up from
- 15:5943% last year. And a good example of this is
- 16:01one of the CIO quotes they referenced, which is that the
- 16:04CIO said all of our prompts and our systems have been worked and
- 16:07built around open AI. Each one has a specific set of
- 16:11instructions and details. And so it's a very big task to
- 16:14now swap that out. So this creates quite a
- 16:17fascinating dynamic which this multi model approach gives
- 16:20enterprises lots of flexibility and ability to optimize based on
- 16:24performance in the short term. But as these individual
- 16:26workflows become more complex and sophisticated, switching
- 16:31becomes more and more expensive. So if I'm a large language model
- 16:35provider, essentially lots of different models and a strong
- 16:40performance and specific tasks is going to do really well long
- 16:43term. So, yeah, really, really
- 16:55interesting themes. But if I take a step back about
- 16:58what I think that means for I guess business leaders,
- 17:01technology leaders, people in this space, I think first and
- 17:05foremost for those that are building technology, it's the
- 17:09best time in the world to be building technology because
- 17:12actually there's build versus buy shift signals that the
- 17:14application layer is maturing so fast.
- 17:18We're moving to a world where those are the best products are
- 17:20starting to win. And this is following the exact
- 17:24same pattern as you saw with cloud computing or mobile app
- 17:28development and pretty much every single major technology
- 17:30platform. But the speed is just something
- 17:32that's never been seen before. You know, these transitions
- 17:34typically take 567 years, but this is happening in 18 months.
- 17:39And 2nd, this budget explosion really tells us this isn't a
- 17:43bubble or a fad. You know, where where
- 17:45enterprises are actually spending their core budgets on
- 17:48AI applications. It shows that if you are in this
- 17:50space you have an opportunity to really take massive leaps
- 17:54forward, but the challenge is you need to really be a
- 17:57genuinely best in class product to win.
- 17:59So yeah, if you are in the space, I hope this research acts
- 18:03as another kick up the bum to move faster.
- 18:06Anyway, thanks for today. I hope you found that helpful
- 18:09and I will see you next week.