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467: Doctor Who Almost Crossed Over with Star Trek?! | For the Love of Spock Review · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. Welcome to Trek Cast,
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  Speaker 1: the Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Today, on the show,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to look back at the documentary for
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  Speaker 1: the Love of Spock. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I had never
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  Speaker 1: seen it before. So plus we've got Star Trek News,
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  Speaker 1: your listener feedback, and now our beloved science officer Daniel Reyes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm a science officer now, and you're beloved. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that yeah, you're our Spock.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I feel like more like the triple because I'm
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  Speaker 2: so short. Oh yeah, I've been How was your week?
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  Speaker 1: Week was? You know, it was a week did some
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  Speaker 1: work and yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: I hear you there. I've gotta I've got a big
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  Speaker 2: thing going after the show. My one of my screenplays
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  Speaker 2: has been selected by a group out here and they
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  Speaker 2: are going to be performing a table read where they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be my screenplay. Yeah exciting, Yeah, I'm excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: Also a little bit nervous and uh yeah yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: that that'll be happening today. The The only problem is
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  Speaker 2: I already had one of the actors canceled on me
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  Speaker 2: last minute, so I've been. I've been scrambling to find somebody.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be okay.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, well, I mean something like that. You can't
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  Speaker 1: have something like that without having at least one little
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  Speaker 1: hiccup like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's been a few other ones, but that's the
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  Speaker 2: latest one.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good I think that's a good omen. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They say that in filmmaking, like being a producer is
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  Speaker 2: putting out fires, and so that that's what it'll be.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, a good deal. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: hear about it. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot a video of it too,
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  Speaker 2: just for my own self to like listen to it
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  Speaker 2: back and all that. So yeah, yeah, I'm excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's exciting. Yeah yeah, good deal. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see. So it's just you and me today.
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  Speaker 2: Dan is unable to make it.
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  Speaker 1: A space mission.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, always is and uh yeah, so we we
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  Speaker 2: will be talking, like you said about the love of Spock.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: This is a documentary that was pretty much produced hosted
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  Speaker 2: by his son Adam Nimoy. Yeah, so that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's a documentary you can find basically just about anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's free currently on YouTube to watch. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's in other countries. I know in the US,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched it on YouTube last night.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I watched.
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  Speaker 1: It's said when we when we clicked on and it
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  Speaker 1: said free with commercials. But there wasn't a single commercial.
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  Speaker 2: I had one commercial on mine, like right at the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: and that was the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't we might have had it one at
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning, but yeah, there was no interruptions.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I look forward to talking about it
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Eric Wood says, hello from Indy.
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  Speaker 1: What's up.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, when you say Indie, do you mean Indiana or India?
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he means Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you never know. It's the Internet. We're everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So just as we've met Eric Woods, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: him a couple of times. He was at he was
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  Speaker 1: at Chicago, and then I met up with him last year.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't want to be presumptuous. You never know.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, well, should we get to the news.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it, all right, let's do it Star
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  Speaker 1: Trek News.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So our first news story comes to us
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  Speaker 2: from Radio Times, and we are learning a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more about the potential crossover between Star Trek and Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently a Kiva's Goldman did an interview with Radio Times
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  Speaker 2: where he talked about this, and basically what he went
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  Speaker 2: on to say is that himself and uh Doctor Who
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  Speaker 2: show runner Russell T. Davis have had conversations over the years,
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  Speaker 2: but doing a crossover, so much so that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you remember, but last season on Strange New Worlds,
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  Speaker 2: the tartists appeared in the background of an episode and
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  Speaker 2: probably mentioned that she dealt with the Doctor in the past.
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  Speaker 2: So those were easter eggs to seed the crossover. Apparently
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  Speaker 2: Russell T. Davis is totally down to do this, totally
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  Speaker 2: wants to do Doctor Who and a starts at crossover.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is, you know, getting the two giant
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  Speaker 2: corporations that own them to play nice together, right right, so,
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  Speaker 2: and then to work together and all that. And at
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  Speaker 2: that time, not only was it the BBC they would
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with, but Disney had the broadcast rights
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  Speaker 2: for Doctor Who in the US, so you had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with Disney's lawyers as well. So it was Paramount's lawyers,
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  Speaker 2: Disney's lawyers and BBC's lawyers all working together to try
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  Speaker 2: to make this happen.
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  Speaker 1: And as we all know, I'm sure Paramount's lawyers and
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  Speaker 1: Disney lawyers are famous for getting along well and making
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  Speaker 1: things happen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. So uh it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: ultimately never came to fruition. Keivs Goldsman says, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the fans want it, that'll that'll move mountains. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, at this point, I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 2: been following the Doctor Who knews, but basically Russell T.
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  Speaker 2: Davis is out. They're basically looking at completely rebooting Doctor
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  Speaker 2: Who because the last season of it just didn't do well.
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  Speaker 1: You don't listen to my Doctor Who podcast?
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, Okay, it must be a different
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  Speaker 2: time in space and different dimensions.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different Yeah, it's a different quantum reality.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, that's that would be it. That's very Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 1: It's a scot that actually has ever seen a Doctor
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  Speaker 1: Who episode? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And where's a giant scarf as a sun e screw driver?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a single Doctor Who episode, And and
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  Speaker 1: people who are like, you know, I go to comic
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  Speaker 1: cons and stuff, but I'm like, yeah, I like Star
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  Speaker 1: Trek and Star Wars and this and that and the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. Never seen a single Doctor Who episode, And
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  Speaker 1: people are like, what.
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  Speaker 2: Yet, you know talker Who? Like, if you like Star Trek,
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  Speaker 2: you would like Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I've been told this, and I've been told how
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  Speaker 1: I can jump in, you know, basically anytime they change doctors,
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  Speaker 1: I can just jump in at that point. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds really cool. It's on my bucket list.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you could start. I don't know if i'd
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  Speaker 2: start with Christopher Christopher Eggleston because he's a little bit goofy,
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  Speaker 2: but for sure David Tennant, if you start with his run,
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  Speaker 2: that's like prime Doctor Who. But yeah, so, so this
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  Speaker 2: probably won't happen, especially with Star Trek in Flux right now,
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  Speaker 2: no news shows in production. It literally could not happen
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  Speaker 2: at this point, but you never know. Maybe down the road. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think they've had crossovers in the comic books though.
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  Speaker 1: So I've done a lot of cool crossovers in the
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  Speaker 1: comic books, and I'm still you know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: just found my I was reading a novel and I
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  Speaker 1: stopped reading it because I just I lost track of it,
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  Speaker 1: and I just you know, I just found it again
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  Speaker 1: and it's the Star Trek Next Generation crew and X men.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm about half.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about half. It looks like I was about halfway
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  Speaker 1: through it, and I remember the story just fine. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty pretty uh simple, but good story. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to pick it back up and once I'm
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  Speaker 1: done with it, I'll give a review. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Our next news story comes to
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  Speaker 2: us from pop Verse and uh, you know, now that
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  Speaker 2: things are dying down and Star Trek you know, might
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  Speaker 2: be going on the back burner for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like, uh, you know, real feelings are coming
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  Speaker 2: out and Star Trek Starfleet Academy actor blast current paramount
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  Speaker 2: owners for abandoning in the series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So at a recent convention, the doctor Robert Riccardo was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, basically saying how he really feels. This is
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  Speaker 2: at Space con twenty twenty six, and he says, quote,
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  Speaker 2: I wish we had been given more of a chance
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  Speaker 2: to build an audience. He went on to say our
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  Speaker 2: show was conceived under a prior ownership regime at CBS
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  Speaker 2: Paramount and once the new owners took over, we had
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  Speaker 2: no support. With the release of the show, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: get any ads. You couldn't find us. I had friends
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  Speaker 2: who would say, where is Starfleet Academy and I would say,
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  Speaker 2: it's on Paramount Plus and they say, I have Paramount Plus,
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  Speaker 2: I can't find it, and I thought, well, that's weird.
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  Speaker 2: After the premiere episode, we kind of dropped off the menu. Usually,
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  Speaker 2: if people have a history on Paramount Plus of watching
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek, you would pitch them the new Star Trek show.
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  Speaker 2: But that didn't happen on mine, and I wish we
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  Speaker 2: had gotten more support.
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  Speaker 4: Uh you know, yeah, I'm I don't know what he
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  Speaker 4: means by that, because I I don't know his preferences
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  Speaker 4: on on Paramount Plus and what it would show him.
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  Speaker 2: But I know on mine it would pop up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a new a new episode dropped, it would say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it would have the banner when when the new episodes
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  Speaker 2: would dropped. Yeah, but we were reviewing it and we
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  Speaker 2: were watching it every week. So maybe I was like
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  Speaker 2: considered a super user of a.
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  Speaker 1: Sort right for that you were a super fan?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that that could have been the case. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And then we also have the alleged numbers from from
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  Speaker 2: that leaked online that only forty thousand people watched an episode,
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  Speaker 2: you know, each time. Yeah, so that that could be
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  Speaker 2: also why it wasn't bushed. There's just no interest, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we've beaten this horse quite sure. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Starfleet Academy suffered from so many different things. It had
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  Speaker 1: the potential to be. I mean, right off the gate
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  Speaker 1: set in the fifty seven thousandth century, it was a
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  Speaker 1: bad idea.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wait, hold on, if we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I feel bad for all the actors
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think we ever, at least for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, we never said ah, it was bad acting.
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  Speaker 1: We never said that. Yeah, And we for the most
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  Speaker 1: part liked all these actors for the most part, liked
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  Speaker 1: all the characters, you know. I mean, I was so
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  Speaker 1: happy to see Robert Riccardo on the show.
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  Speaker 2: He had a great episode.
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  Speaker 1: He did have a really good episode. Yeah. And and
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  Speaker 1: since I had I had just done a Voyager rewatch too,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know that that really kind of kind
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  Speaker 1: of hit home for me. And it had the potential
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  Speaker 1: to be really good. And then I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: screwed it up. I mean, I think we all know
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  Speaker 1: who screwed it up. You know that he who shall
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  Speaker 1: not be named, right, but and everybody knows my disdain
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  Speaker 1: for him. But there was so many you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's star Trek is a cake, and there's so many
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  Speaker 1: ingredients to it, and and and Starfleet Academy lacked so
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  Speaker 1: many of those ingredients or some of those ingredients are
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  Speaker 1: just so bad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I feel sorry for Robert Riccardo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is, like, you can tell the
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  Speaker 2: actors that were in it love the show. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that they had a blast making it.
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  Speaker 2: The the guy that plays the Klingon forget his real name,
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  Speaker 2: but he posted on his Instagram just this week that
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  Speaker 2: he was showing the the gift that the what's her
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  Speaker 2: name genesis, that actress, she she gave everyone a Starfleet
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  Speaker 2: Academy yearbook as a goodbye president to the actors and
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  Speaker 2: to the crew. So everybody got their yearbook. Their pictures
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  Speaker 2: were in it, behind the scenes photos of it. I
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  Speaker 2: mean it looks like a yearbook, right, Yeah, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: like they all signed each other's yearbook. Like that's cool,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I think that's neat that they did
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  Speaker 2: that for themselves, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean clearly
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  Speaker 2: they did love it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't special victims unit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely not definitely not you know, maybe an
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  Speaker 2: avid elementary, but you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, right, yeah, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's a fun little bit. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like I just I just wish that love translated better
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  Speaker 2: into stuff that connected more with audiences. Sure, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but it just it just didn't. All right.
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  Speaker 1: It's either that or it did connect with a certain
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  Speaker 1: audience that just didn't connect with us. Yeah, well, because
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  Speaker 1: we are an audience of a certain demographic for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But but if it had succeeded in that route, it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be canceled, it wouldn't be you know, things would
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  Speaker 2: not be up in the air right now as they are.
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  Speaker 5: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: So, so it clearly didn't do what is the what
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  Speaker 2: was it was supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: So didn't grab that modern day saved by the Bell audience.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and then the the other argument argument you can
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  Speaker 2: make is all these franchises are This is something I've
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  Speaker 2: been thinking about all these franchises are saying, we need
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  Speaker 2: to build our audience, we need to grow it, right
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  Speaker 2: from from Star Wars to Masters of the Universe to
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  Speaker 2: you know, Star Trek. I've been trying to Ghostbusters, right,
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  Speaker 2: Ghostbusters keeps swinging at it. But when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the numbers, when you look at what's going on, none
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  Speaker 2: of them are growing their audiences. They have their core
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  Speaker 2: fan base. Everything, every new project that comes out for them,
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  Speaker 2: it's only for that fan base. And and then the
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  Speaker 2: fan base gets mad because whatever comes out feels watered
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  Speaker 2: down to them because it's it's trying to appeal to
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  Speaker 2: other people who don't want it as opposed to what
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  Speaker 2: the fans want. Yeah, I'm trying to think of any
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  Speaker 2: any formerly like the only thing that I can think
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  Speaker 2: of that was formerly a big property then diminished and
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  Speaker 2: then came back. It's either Ninja Turtles because they have
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  Speaker 2: had several waves, or it's wrestling. Those are like the
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  Speaker 2: only two, you know, and and both of those when
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  Speaker 2: I think about, okay, well, what caused them to to
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  Speaker 2: get popular again as opposed to you know, going back down?
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  Speaker 2: And really the only two things I see is that
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  Speaker 2: they get popular again when they go back to basics
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  Speaker 2: and what it is. That was the core essentials of
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  Speaker 2: that franchise. So with wrestling, you know, when they when
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  Speaker 2: they branch out and they try to bring in celebrities
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  Speaker 2: and they try to you know, do goofy matches like
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  Speaker 2: that never works. But when they when they just do
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  Speaker 2: storylines about the title, when they're when they're just focused
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  Speaker 2: on their own product, fans get interested in that, and
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  Speaker 2: then that brings back the popularity, which then brings in
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  Speaker 2: new fans.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Same with the Ninja Turtals. Right when they when they
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  Speaker 2: did you know, the movies were great, but then they
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  Speaker 2: did the third movie, which was let's travel it into
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  Speaker 2: the to the past and let's do all this goofy stuff, right,
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  Speaker 2: so they so they got away of the core of
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  Speaker 2: the Turtles fighting crime and stopping Shredder, right.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and then when.
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  Speaker 2: They went back to that in I don't know, like
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and three with that series, it raised the
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  Speaker 2: popularity again. And then the twenty twelve show or whatever
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  Speaker 2: that was for Nickelodeon, like it's done that and then
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  Speaker 2: you know when they go goofy, then it it drops
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  Speaker 2: down the popularity.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you mentioned you know, I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: think of a couple of data points just from my
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  Speaker 1: perspective of franchises that, you know, gain new audiences versus
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  Speaker 1: just kind of sustaining the audiences they already have their
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  Speaker 1: fan base. And I was thinking about Star Wars and
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  Speaker 1: my kids. Yeah, and they just became Star Wars fans
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  Speaker 1: when they were sort of old enough to understand what
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars is. Right, that's because Star Wars is Star Wars.
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  Speaker 1: Then I was thinking about because they're Star Wars fans,
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  Speaker 1: if I ask either one of my kids, are you
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  Speaker 1: a fan of Star Wars? Yeah, I'm a fan of
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars. They constantly quote it, you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: sort of out there. Then I thought about Ghostbusters, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, we all I love Ghostbusters. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody loves Ghostbusters. Dan is obviously a huge fan of Ghostbusters, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so we saw the new movies as a family,
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  Speaker 1: and my kids like the new movies. Okay, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't hear them quoting Ghostbusters. And if you ask them,
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  Speaker 1: are you a Ghostbusters fan? It's like, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I like it. I wouldn't call myself a fan. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have any Ghostbusters Memoria Billia. They don't quote Ghostbusters.
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  Speaker 1: They do Star Wars. So I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: just because Star Wars is such a much larger franchise
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  Speaker 1: and it's just out there more. I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 1: like we can say they're doing something right, because over
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  Speaker 1: the last five or ten years, Star Wars has made
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  Speaker 1: some pretty monumental mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a there's a YouTuber I watch three C
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  Speaker 2: Films and he was talking about Ghostbusters, and he said
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  Speaker 2: that he strongly believes that Ghostbusters was never supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be a franchise. That it was just a fun, goofy
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  Speaker 2: movie and it was so big and so interesting with
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: its lore that they were like, oh shit, we got
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to do more of these, I guess.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, yeah, build those Ecto one toys and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: slimer toys, you know, yeah, because you as a company,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you have to capitalize on.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It, right, right, absolutely, But that they was never designed
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to do that. It was just to just be like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: let's do this fun ghost movie just for you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: just hang out with our buddies and do it. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: then oh no, it's way more popular than we thought
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be. Oh no, yeah, which I can kind
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of see it like the way it's laid out, you know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So all right, let's get to our last news story.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: This tends to us from Red Shirts Always Die. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but this week
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: was an interesting development for us to find out we
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: now have Captain Batman. A Star Trek actor Yeah, has
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: been cast to play Batman in the upcoming Nightfall animated film.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: This follows the famous Nightfall storyline where Batman gets his
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: back broken by Bain and someone else takes over the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: mantle of Batman. Yeah, so Captain Pike himself Anson Mount
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: will be the voice of Batman.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Love. Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the trailer part of it. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I think he does a good job. Other actors within
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: this is Michael Mando. He will be Bain's voice. Michael
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Mando plays a scorpion in the Spider Man movies.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, he was.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Also in Upbreaking Bad, so I think he's a good
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: fit for Bain. Yeah. And then, uh, we's just named
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: David del Smaalshen something like that, played Polka dot Man
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: in Suicide Squad. He's gonna be Riddler so okay, yeah, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I could see that too. I could see him playing
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Riddler for real too.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just thinking that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So I don't know when this movie comes out. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: can't I don't know if the the article says, but
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: this will be what's interesting about this Nightfall movie is
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the the graphic novels. There's like three big graphic novels.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's a big storyline, and so for the movie, they're
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: doing that too. It'll be three movies. Okay, so this
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: is a trilogy, so we'll get at least three. Captain
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Batman's within se yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they sort of did the storyline for Dark Knight
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Rises kind of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they touched on it. They broke his back, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a pretty good storyline. I don't know
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: if you've ever read it, but.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't read I haven't read many graphic novels, so yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm familiar with it just because it's sort of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: They they turned it into an actual novel, and I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: know that there's an audiobook of it. Took the whole storyline.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Ye know, you like audio books.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So that's why I do like audio books.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: All Right, Well that's all the news. It's been pretty
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: pretty slow going this past couple of weeks.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, uh no, Paramount Plus drama.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not yet, you know, give it time. It's still
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: got to proceed.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Where do we know where we're at with that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So last we knew last in well this merger ever
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: happened struggles. You know, the d o J gave their
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: okay or I think it's the DJ. They had to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: prove it, but they said it's cool. But they still
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: have to go through the EU and a couple other
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: international regulatory commissions because it's not just the US government
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that gives it's blessing, and it's because it's an international conglomerate.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's like all these players. Yeah, so so they still
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: have a few more. I know that there's a there's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a deadline I want to say, like last quarter of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the year that if the if it doesn't go through,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: then Paramount has to pay Warner Brothers for every quarter
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't happen.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So that's funny.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of online chatter about boycotting
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Paramount Plus and you know there's a lot of politics
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: behind that too.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That too.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that the owners of Paramount Plus or
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: lean a certain way politically, and a lot of people
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: don't like that. And right, and it's like, I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I just want to watch my shows.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the left or the right or
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I just want to watch my shows. Yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I want to think about who I'm supporting while I'm
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: watching the shows, either. I just want to watch my shows. Right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't want politics to get in
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the way of my entertainment. That's that's a separate part
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of my life. That's a separate part of everybody's life.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: There's there's entertainment in one part of your brain, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: then there's religion in one part, and then there's politics
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in another. And I want my entertainment to be way
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: over here in in this part of my brain, okay,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And I want it to be separate. I just want
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to be entertained. I just want to watch my damn shows.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I think as somebody like me who's trying to make
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it in Hollywood, I don't like that there's going to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: be less opportunities because there's less you know, companies that
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I really don't like. But I don't like to start
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: another studio from scratch. Is so difficult, in so much money,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in so much you know, resources, that it's it's not
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: viable or not easily viable, right, So right, that's the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: tough thing, man. I I don't know. I'm not happy
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: about the merger, but it's gonna happen one way or
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the other. And that's just what it is.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: So well, here's to you making it big in Hollywood.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Some someday that you know, people will be saying your
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: name next to like Vince Gilligans.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And and and then I can revive Eke the Cat.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there you go, Eke the Cat.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, something nobody talks about.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Someday. It's going to be a pretty big deal when
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I tell people, Yeah, I'm friends with Daniel ray Is.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we used to do a podcast together. Already stopped
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: doing the podcast once you get started producing those big
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: giant Blockbuster.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: TV just started making those Eat the Cat movies, right,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: these gritty reboot of Eke the Cat.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You you will remember us, won't you.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I can either promise nor deny.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you used to be cool, Daniel.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. I'm sorry, I can't hear you
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: from my yacht. What was that?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully you'll you'll fly Dan and I in sometime.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. All right, let's get
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: to the main topic. Because we speaking of Hollywood. We
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: have got a Hollywood story to talk about. So fine, well,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: now come out, Oh, Jasmins says, do a crossover episode?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Do you want to crossover of Eke the Cat and Ghostbusters?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: What crossovers do you want? I need? I need details
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: there right right? Yeah, all right, so we are talking
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: for the love of Spock. This film came out and is.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: In the house.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There you go say, yeah, this came out in twenty sixteen,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just after the death of Leonard Nimoy. He died the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: year before. In twenty fifteen. This was it released in theaters.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I yeah, I don't remember either. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: usually these I mean, I don't know, do these crowdfunded?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: There was a minimal US release in theaters, but it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was also on VOD day and date. So that means
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you can watch it in the theaters or watch it
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: at home. Okay, yeah, so okay, so yes, that answers
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that question. Yeah. There was also like a Blu ray.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You can buy a DVD, but yeah, it's it's basically
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: free on YouTube right now. And uh yeah, it was
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: done by Adam Nimoy, the son of Leonard Nimoy. Spot
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: m h and it was uh uh, I don't know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: what did you think of it?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I liked it, Okay, I did like it. It after
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the so this was originally just going to be a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: documentary about Spock correct the character and right, and after
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the death of Leonard Nimoy, they decided Adam Nimoy decided
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that it should also be a documentary about Leonard Nimoy
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the actor. And I, yeah, I liked it. I don't
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: watch a ton of documentaries, but I you know, I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: like the subject matter. There's a couple of things that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that struck me on this documentary.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Number one, they had a ton of celebrity guest interviews.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, they they had showrunners from like, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Big Bang Theory. They star Trek actors, I mean they
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: called in a lot of big name I mean Neil
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: deGrasse Tyson was on it. So yeah, I really I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. What were your
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: thoughts on it we collect.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I you know, it's really funny watching it. I was
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: struck with this to me felt more than anything more
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: than you know, hey, look at how cool my dad
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: was and or look how cool Star Spock was. To me,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it felt like a son who had a tough time
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: with his dad and now that his dad is gone,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: he's working through that and and he he does love
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: his dad, but it wasn't always that way between them, right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And like I I could feel that throughout the whole
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: thing because they bring it up quite a bit, right
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that that they had tough times. They went times where
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they were estranged from each other and not talking and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: that's rough, right, like that, that's not ideal for anyone.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Oh this, Yeah, this documentary is definitely a therapy session
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: for Adam Neber. Yeah, very much.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So that's what it felt like, you know. But that said,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I thought that was so interesting too, and to put
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: yourself out there like that and be so vulnerable, you know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My other thought about the documentary is
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, because I think they've done I mean,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I have a book called I Am Spock mm hmm,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I I also read I Am Not Spock, which
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: came out before that. That's why I wrote my my
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: my name is I am Scott, I am Spock ye
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and I and I read I am Spock and and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it was basically letter Nimoy's love letter to Spock, just
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like this documentary was sort of Adam Niemoy's love letter
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to his dad. Yeah, but also you know, it was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a therapy session for Adam Nimoy. My other thought was
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: who else would you make a documentary about?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's the spot I thought.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you don't see people making documentaries about
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: William Shatner or Brent Spiner.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: No, well, William Shatner makes documentaries about himself.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, documentary makes documentaries about himself all the time.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody watched them when he talks about him. You don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: see documentaries about Wharf. You don't see documentaries about Chacota
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: or you know, you see documentaries about Voyager. You see
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: documents about D Space nine.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: There's the George one coming out.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Is there? Okay, there's one, Yeah, there's Alu one coming up.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But my thought was the character of Spock most represent
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: If you were to say star trek h, Spock is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the one that comes to mind. Oh, Spock is the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: one that that sort of represents if you were just
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: if you were to just pick one character, one actor,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it would be Spock to represent in in almost all
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all things. I mean, he he's a little bit alien,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: so he represents that part of Star Trek, but he's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: half human, so he kind of pulls you in and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and it makes it relatable. You know, he's probably the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of all characters in all of Star Trek lore, he's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: got to be the most iconic because when people, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: go to conventions, when when we sign off from the show,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: what do we do? We do this? Yeah, it's it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and it's from a television series, honestly is not. It's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: not my favorite Star Trek series. Yeah, yeah, but it's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the most iconic, and Spock, I think is the most
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: iconic Star Trek character of all time. Mm hmmm. So
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's sort of what I took away from
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the documentary.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You know, similar to what you were saying. What I
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: thought was, it's so fascinating to me that of all
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the franchises out there, you're not seeing documentaries about Mark Hamill, Right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you don't. You don't get you know, documentaries about mcgiver, right,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: or you know, but but Star Trek people are so
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: into it that there are, you know, the documentaries about
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the shows. You know, there's the Captain's documentary that's just
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: about the captains, right, which is like mini docs of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: each of each one. But to do this that so
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: singularly focused on one character, you know that that's kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of amazing that this franchise inspires that much love. Absolutely,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't get that from anything else. So
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that says about the fan base.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I mean that they're rabinous and want more, clearly.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It's just it's so interesting.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna go through a few
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: of the people that were on this documentary we had, yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: go for it. William Shatner was there, obviously, Zacharo Quinto,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Zachary Quintro was in it. It was interesting to see
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: because this came out ten years ago, so we didn't
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: have like, you know, Discovery and Strange New Worlds yet.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But it was interesting to see the dynamic between Zachary
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Quinto and Leonard Nimoy, you know, and it brought back
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: fond memories of of when they brought leon Nimoy into
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the JJ verse.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Pine was in it, Jim Parsons was in it,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Walter Koenig, Zoe's Oldanna, Simon Peg, Carl Urban, Mayan Baileck,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Jason Alexander. I was thrilled to see like Nick Meyer,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: he's an old Star Trek director and producer, and yeah
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: he wrote the fourth movie. Yeah. Uh just uh oh
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: DC Fontana, Yeah, it was interesting to see her. And
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: she had to go by d. C. Fontana and not
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: her given name, which is Dorothy, because obviously women are
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: can't write for Star Trek. You know, we all know that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's gonna become a SoundBite. But yeah, uh
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Angelina Joelee wasn't it Uh yeah, Johnny.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: As a clip. It's not like they interviewed her.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: No, well she it was. It was a clip from
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: when she was on an old John Stewart show. Think
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was it the Daily Show? It was, yeah, it was really,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: but it was John Stewart when when John Stewart had
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: all non gray hair.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, maybe his first year of the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Daily Show.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there was an interview they mentioned Star Trek,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I mean just this huge phenomenon. Well, she I think
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: she mentioned spocking it. Yeah, yeah, so many, so many
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: people Steve Gutenberg, Yeah, from some past uh interviews.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because because Leonard Nimoy directed Three Men in a
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Baby Yep.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, there's some there's some big, big names of
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: people who you know, sort of showed up in in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like past footage and things like that. But yeah, cultural phenomenon, yeah.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for you know. I I really liked the documentary.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really well done. I don't know
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: what I would change or do any different, but I don't.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I think it came out at the right time for it,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: especially right after his death. But it would be interesting
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to see now the two the two spots we have
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: reflecting on on him a little bit more. I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: know if a documentary or like, I don't I don't
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: think there's enough for a documentary with that, but it
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: would be cool, Like I don't know, maybe a comic
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: con pandle between the two of them talking about it. Yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: that would be.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Not Walter pack.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Ethan pack Yeah, it's Walter.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: If it's a guy from Ghostbusters.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, that's right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I got Ghostbusters on the braid that's right.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: That's right. I will say this that the documentary made
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: me realize one thing, daddy's helped you feel good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely were some daddy issues of that. Another
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: thing too, this, especially towards the end, it was a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: tear jerker. Yeah, it was a tear jerker. Yeah. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: found myself wiping away a tear every once in a while.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And they you know, they did that, uh huh the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: burning Man scene. Yeah yeah, yeah, I you're into this,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: into this landscape, but I I hadn't seen the cinematography
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: of the burning Man scene, of the music and the
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: fire and and the pictures in in in the fire
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that were slowly.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I liked that. I mean it was simple, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and the and the lizard. Part of my brain was
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: just like yeah, you know, I I just I liked it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: It made me.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Cry, and uh, it's very artistic.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, I thought so too, coming from again,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: coming from somebody who's not an artist or you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: isn't part of that landscape. But I thought it was
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: very well done and uh yeah, well shot and uh yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: they did a good job. I mean, if they were
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: going for a jerking a tear out of you they succeeded.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very well done.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: But and they played they they played that clip more
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: than once of of Spock dying in Star Trek two. Yeah,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that's always. That's always. I mean, if you want to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: get a grown man to cry, any sci fi fan
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that's a grown man, you want to get him cry,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you play that scene, oh for sure and subsequent funeral
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do like that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: That.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: That was how they got him to come back is
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we'll kill you off and give you
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: will kill you. We'll give you the best dest scene ever.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And he's like okay.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: He's like okay. Then they gave him that sort of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: out scene with the remember and Doctor McCoy and they're like, hey,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you want to come back and do Star Trek three.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: He's like yeah, sure, yeah, I like money, Sure I'll direct.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And then they're like okay, well and then you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: they they talked about how they wanted to do Star
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Trek four and he's like, well, yeah, but see last time,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: you guys really you know you want to control over
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: this and you were babysitting me on that and they're
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: like okay, this franchise has made a ton of money.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and just do whatever you want.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: And he's like, Okay, you like the goofiest Star Trek
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: movie to do.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: You can do anything you want. He's like, we're traveling
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: back in time and we're looking for whales.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: And everybody was like huh and let her Nie Boy
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: must have been like, hey, they said I could do it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, we're gonna test it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was great, you know. And and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on paper, honestly, that movie should not have that movie
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: box office, Bob, nobody should. Everybody should remember that movie
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the way we remember Star Trek five. But it's one
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: of the most beloved Star Trek movies of all time.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Star Trek four. As non Star Trek fans call it,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's Start Trick four, the one with the whales.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, well yeah, no, I like
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: the documentary. I thought it was a lot of fun.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad we watched it, you know. Yeah, so, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: look at this Monoma nominem review the Visitor from DS nine.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Please it's the best issue.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I I would not be opposed.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm me either either.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I would not be opposed.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: We've got to come up with some from the show.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I think that yeah, even you know, because before Strange
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: New Worlds comes out, and even after Strange Worlds, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: think fans are liking these little one off episode reviews.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So if I'm wrong, let me know. But if you
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: guys want to see more episode reviews to fill in
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: when we don't have New Trek, you know, just some popular,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you know, one off episodes. Obviously, we're not going to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: go through each series and do like a you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: an episodic review of each series, just because there aren't
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: enough podcast days in the in the year. But right, yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: if you guys want to see us do more, just
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you know, single episode reviews of like you know, fan
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: fan favorite episodes, let us know.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we have ideas, but yeah, that would
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: be great's much as specific episodes that you want to see.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the visitor is a great idea.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the visitor will be great. Well let's uh if
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: you want to cry that's true. Well, let's get to
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: uh to listener feedback. We got Jacob waiting to come on,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: so okay, let's do that listener feedback before we get
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to Jacob, just to let everyone know we are on
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: social media at trek cast TG. We're on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter,
• 43:46
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• 43:49
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• 43:53
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• 43:55
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• 43:59
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• 44:02
  Speaker 2: picking up the phone. You just leave a voicemail.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So you don't want me to answer.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I mean you can if you want to. I don't
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: know how you're gonna answer virtual phone, but you know.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Trek asks to Scott.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: There you go, There you go.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: No, nobody's gonna answer to leave a voicemail, and I
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: haven't had a voicemail a little while, so please somebody
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: call that number and leave us a voicemail and just
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: tell us about what you think about anything, current state
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: of current star Trek. Yeah, you know, what you think
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: about my hair? Anything you want? Okay, anything you want.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right, that's right, all right. We got Jacob on the line,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: first time caller, so let's bring him in there. He is, Hey,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: there's Jacob.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: How are you doing day, Good morning guys, first time.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Good morning Jacob.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you watch the the Spot documentary.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: No, I haven't. I haven't had a chance to, but
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: it's it's on my list.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, definitely, yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then watching The Enterprise.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Oh you've been watching Enterprise? Okay?
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, one of my favorite series.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my favorite characters. Yeah, what's work the rewatch?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Not many good shows coming out here lately. It is
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: just a lot of good old shows I've been wanting
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: to rewatch.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: We watched it like four or five times already.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, do you have a favorite character on Enterprise?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Paul definitely had character built up.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I loved Paul.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Everybody didn't like her first because of the Balkans and everything,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: and then eventually she became a really good character, especially
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: when the Herd trip got together.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, I was gonna say that is one
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of my all time favorite Star Trek characters.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I like him.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I wish we saw more of him.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep, me too. And I I've been in
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the camp that says I think this alive.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: We didn't this clone dive.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: His clone clone did die, but at the very end
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: of the series spoiler alert, when he he goes into
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the chamber what do they call the chambers and star Trek,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the medical chambers whatever. We don't see anything after that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: The last thing that happens is he goes into that
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: bio chamber and he kind of has a little grin
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: on his face, like everything's gonna be okay. They never
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: have a funeral, they never say he died. There is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: no dialogue stating what happened to him.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: So yeah, they really they really should have done a
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: better fourth season. I really hope Scott back comes back
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: and continues the story.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the rumor. So we'll see.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: And with the aging nowadays, they can make him live
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: on forever.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: That's true, just the c. Gus Archer.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the way all predicted it's gonna happen on the
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: season two of Starky Academy.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Oh if we more. The actors have been saying that
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be more of the same. I think it's
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of angry people on the internet.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: No doubt there.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's interesting to me that they said
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: that there's no big bad or am I thinking of
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: strange new worlds?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking they'll probably have rushed ending everybody's gonna hate
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: the ending, but everybody hates to show anyway, So no harm,
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: no foul.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I haven't feeling they'll leave. I think they're gonna leave
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: an ending where it is like over but you could
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: do more right, hoping that they could. Yeah, something like that.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: So now, I'm not really a huge stan of Doctor Who,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: but a star Trek Doctor Who would be a great
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: cross crossover.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good way to bring in new
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: fans for both.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: So yes, I guess I've never seen an episode of
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Doctor Who, but I've seen clips and pieces.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. I like Doctor Who's so yeah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: So, Jacob, how how long have you been listening to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: treck Cast?
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: I've been listening to you. I got my job about
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: a year and a half ago. I was stumbling through
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: different podcasts with about about a year now.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, okay, nice.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: I'm from North Carolina.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's what I was gonna ask. Next is
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: where you're from?
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: A good old North Carolina.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Let's see there you go.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So you don't know how I got the job here,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: how I kidnapped and enslaved one of the one of
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the previous co hosts, and Chad and uh he's now
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: locked my iou the first.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: I went back as far back as two thousand and
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: eight just to see who is somebody else host? That's like, wow, big,
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: big difference in like twenty years almost.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you go even further back, yeah, yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: yeah for sure.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Wait wait talking about start, I don't even leave. Yeah
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, so it's been almost twenty.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to be channel.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, goodness. You know, Daniel, if if you and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I and Dan hold out for another two years, we'll
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: have to have a big twentieth like hoopla.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That's crazy to think about.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the time taking a meet up? Yeah maybe
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: if we're if we're around in two years, yeah, we
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: could do a meetup.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: They have Star Trek conventions in North Carolina. They have
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: they have Galaxy con They have Star Trek conventions Charlotte.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. No, yeah, I love the Carolina everywhere, beautiful country.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I never did.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: I've never been to the convention myself, but I've been.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I've been. I've been dying to go to one.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Oh they're fun, they're fun.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We've been to a couple of conventions in Chicago.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And uh, back in twenty twenty two, I met up
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: with the this is before I was a host. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: met up with the Trek cast guys in Chicago and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: we had a great time.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: Love I love I love the one. I love conventions, man,
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: I was checking go to one.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: You should go. There are a lot of fun.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely go and well Dan and Daniel went to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: a Trek convention. What a year or two ago? Two
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: years ago? In two years ago, New York.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: We'll have to start making some initial planning for a
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight yeah, get together somewhere something. Do you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: think two years is enough time to save up? And
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: how do we feel about.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: What the puppet episode coming out?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's yeah. I just I hope it's good. I
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: really do.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: But it would be a great way to bring shatter
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: us puppet.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would almost prefer now, yeah, I would almost
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: prefer if there was like a puppet species, like that's
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: just how they are, you know, that could be.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Good one yeah, all some kind of acid making them
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: think their own puppets?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: A planet?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: Have you do him be the host?
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You land there and all of a sudden, you're
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: liking the muppets. You're the one human and they're all
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: just running around.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: You should have them do it.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's something I think that'd be hilarious.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Trick.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, today's a way message is brought to you by
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the letter C in the number.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: That is awesome.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: But all right, well thanks for being on, Jacob. Anything
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: else you want to say before we go?
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Uh live balk and prosper Doug all.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, thanks man, Yeah, thanks for being on. We
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Take care of thank you, thank you bye.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: We also have Chasms on the line. So, uh, I've
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: been getting the tour of his houses. He's running around.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Bring him up.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there he is, there's Chas Biz. How you doing man, Hey, Hey,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: did you did you watch this spot documentary?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: The Spot?
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well here you Oh he doesn't hear us? Oh no,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I like the bewildered look out of his face though.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I know, look at that. I'm gonna I'm gonna take
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: him out until he figures it out.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Till he figures it out.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we heard him. I don't know what's going
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: on there. Yeah, he heard Jacob. He's like, somebody's taking
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: my spot. I gotta go, right yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my goodness, yeah yeah, the the Muppet, the Puppet.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, apparently there's a rumor that they're
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: going for this is the sixtieth anniversary of Star Trek,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: and so they will be doing an episode about con
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: in season four the Strange New Worlds allegedly, okay, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: They already featured him in Strange New Worlds ones.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well in an alternate showed.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Him as a little kid, right, okay.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So okay, let's see chats pop up, So let's see.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Can you hear us?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I can hear you?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Now that's weird.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was weird.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah maybe I had to pop up or something because
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I'm using the phone.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So okay, that is totally weird. Stream Yard is weird
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: sometimes though, So.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Oh I hear everybody every podcast I over here, everybody
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: hates stream Yards. Yeah, pretty much the only one.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: So it pretty much is. Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I had a roof for today, so I had
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: to he had to inspect my roof because my ceiling
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: fans leaking. Oh yeah, just installed a ceiling fan and
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: it's leaking water.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: So wow, yeah, that's not supposed to happen.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know it was supposed to have a
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: water feature with it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So right, you just want to shop?
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Wow. So did you watch the spot Talk?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Several years ago. I watched it, and you know, it
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: was a great you know documentary. Yeah, and you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: just to think if you had to grow up to
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: be uh, I don't know a child, you know, of
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: an actor, a famous actor would be hard, Yeah, because
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: you see so many of them. They have issues, like
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: a ton of issues, and you know, recently, you know
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: they're either doing drugs or doing other stuff.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: You know, they're I feel like that's not as prevalent as.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It used to be.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it's I mean, I think
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: there's like a Rob Reiner's kid, so.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's like anything, right, you can
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: found outliers. But with the amount of like the amount
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of shows that are out there, the amount of shows
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: with kids out there, I think percentage wise it's less
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and less Like Disney has so many shows with kids, right,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: and you really don't hear a lot about a lot
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: of those kids having problems. Yes, there's a few, but
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: it's really minimal compared to what it used to be. Yeah,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if they're just pumping with drugs
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: in the eighties or what.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, or just the pressures on them
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: they didn't like take into consideration on the kids. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's sad what you're saying, but you know. Yeah,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: but name way, he was a lawyer.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Right yeah, Adam Nimway. Yeah, yeah, so I became an attorney.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I just think how hard that is is to become
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: an attorney. So, I mean, yeah, pretty big.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And then he married Terry Ferrell, which is pretty badass.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Right right, But of course.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about that because I met Terry Ferrell.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering because they got divorced in twenty twenty two.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm I met I'm I met Terry Ferrell maybe
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: two years later, Okay, So yeah, just it just made
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: reminded me that that I had met Adam Ney Mooyes
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: ex wife.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, there you go. So if.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Vulcan and a trill got together, like a trill vulcan,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: that'd be a pretty interesting mixture right there.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder had that of life experience.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and the Trill would have so many emotions,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: right because of so many lifetimes. Yes, and then how
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: would the vulcan handle that?
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, trying to impress those good question. That's a good combo.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Because, like I can understand, you can suppress your own
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: internal right emotions, but you're that's the emotions is another
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: creature within you.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: That can He would be a great episode of Star
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Trek where like spot like straight, it would be a
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: great episode of Stranger Worlds where they they find this
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: new species and you know, trill and I know they
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: kind of did this in the next generation, but they
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: have to find a compatible host for this, uh, for
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: a symbia and and and Spock is the only one
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: on the ship and he gets the slug and he
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: has to deal with all that stuff that you guys
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: were just talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do like they just have to get here,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you know, from here to here, so it's only a
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: temporary thing.
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  Speaker 1: So kind of cool. Yeah, And to watch Spock go
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: through the gambit of all these different personalities and have
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to deal with all the emotions.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like what I would do is though, is
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: like if you put the symbiud within him and the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: emotions start taking over, I would make Spocks slowly become
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: a Romulin, like he starts seeing their point of view.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that way you could see what what
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Spock's logic with the Romulin like cunning, what happens with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And I just thought you could do a follow
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: up episode dealing with the trill that gets the symbion
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: that was in the Spock. Yeah, and how there's some
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: interesting side effects of having a vulcan host with all
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the you know that kind of thing.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Well, if you if you did, if you did the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: bit like Okay, So, so Spock is turning Romulin or
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: at least leaning that that way philosophically, and then he's
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: trying to do like, let's say, mutiny because now he
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to get over to the other place because
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: now he likes being the bad guy, right, and so yeah,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: he's trying to do a mutiny. He's trying to take over.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: They finally stop him, They finally you know, get them,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they fix them, right, they take it out
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: of him. So then when the new host has that,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: the new host is like dead on, like I want
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: to get revenge, I want that enterprise I want right,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: like like the venomsymb it almost right.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: So are you saying this is going to be an
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: evil trill?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe the evil trill and it's because it got corrupted
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: by the Vulcan.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Because there was one, you know, jad Zy had the
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: one evil one.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Right right, yep, yeah, yeah, And then you could say
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that it was you know, oh, typically when there's an
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: evil one, it kind of wears itself out after the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: next life because you know it doesn't have the influence.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: But you know, you could say because of the Vulcan mind,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: it's so it imprinted so hard on the SIMI it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: that it's forever corrupted, you know, something like that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: These are Yeah, I'm loving the ideas.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the ideas, but we won't get them.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: We won't get them. I have so many ideas coalescing
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: in my head right now about the ideas that we have.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: We need to do something for twenty twenty eight. We
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: need to go to a comic con. We need to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: do a panel, a trek cast panel and and go
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: over some wouldn't.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: That be which would you go to do the con?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: So we'd either have to do something. I mean, it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: would have to coincide, right, It would be nice to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: do it people whole distant, right, you know, New York
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: makes sense, Chicago makes sense, the West Coast makes sense
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: for Daniel. I'm sure we could talk about it and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: see what what's sort of on the docket. And I mean,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I think two years is enough time to sort of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: plan and and save up and you know, for a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: for a little weekend trip. And I was just I'll
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: just throw this out there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go to Miami.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Go to Miami. Okay, yeah, and go to Miami if
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: you want eye candy and good food.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Yeah, I want to dress this podcast.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: This podcast is all over the place. What a story
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I was gonna tell a couple of weeks ago is
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: my son was I forgot if he was getting his
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: haircut or he was. He was at some place and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the conversation between him and whoever he was the business
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: he was dealing with went to uh sci fi and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: they said, yeah, I like Star Wars and I like
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Star Trek. And my son's like, oh you like Star Trek. Yeah,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: He's like, uh, do you do you listen to podcasts.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, do you know trek Cast? Oh yeah,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I listened to trek Cast. Oh my dad's Scott, no kidding.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like six Degrees of Separation. My son ran
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: into a trek Cast fan. Yeah, crazy, Like how crazy
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys just got a new listener too, you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: know yeah, I mean yeah, he went back all the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: way to two thousand and eight.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Right, he saw the transition of when you guys took over.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: So he's like, this show is pretty cool. And then
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: it's like, what happened?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping anybody listens now doesn't go back to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the archives, because you know, there was a time that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a co host and the show was good,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: and then I came on. You know, Daniel are pretty
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: much just kind of dragging me along. But and I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: appreciate that.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's good, it's good. All right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Now, Scott, you've actually you've done your research, so I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: definitely tell you you've gotten really good.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you take those pointers from Chad.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he goes down to the basement. He goes,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: all right, tell me what to do now, right exactly?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just make a childless duld episodes of wrestling
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Ball on the League.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he he wants his bread and water.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: All right. Well we've been on for the hour.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Well, thanks everybody for being here
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: and listening. It's a lot of fun and uh, I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: don't know, we'll be back next week. Who knows, check ourselves.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: For me, figure it out.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: We'll figure there.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: There is the Supergirl movie, but oh yeah, I want
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: to go see it now.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: The reviews have not been kind, although I heard the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Rotten Tomato audience score is right hovering right around, like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: so okay, I mean I'm gonna go do it. I'm
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: gonna go watch it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, I wat Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: It's the same reason why I watched Star Sleet Academy.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: It's because I'm a huge Star Trek fan.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm just right, you know, man, it's sad that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Masters of the Universe bombed, yeah, because that was actually
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: a fun movie.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I had a lot of fun. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, when it's all there on video on demand.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: It's like once it goes to streaming, I think a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: lot of people pick up and like, oh, we missed
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: that on a good movie.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, all right, Well thanks everybody for listening,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and we'll catch you next time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, life.
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