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194: Dealing with Cho Dependency · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 5: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Brian and this week we have.
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  Speaker 6: A special guest.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be talking with comedian, actress, writer, producer, Margaret Cho.
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  Speaker 7: Now Margaret's had quite a career and is still growing
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  Speaker 7: strong as she's here in the middle of another successful
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  Speaker 7: stand-up tour. But this week we're going to talk to
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  Speaker 7: her about getting started in comedy and then about crossing
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  Speaker 7: over into the movies. So first we'll take a break
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  Speaker 7: and along the way we'll hear some clips from one
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  Speaker 7: of Margaret's other endeavors. She's also moved into music. So
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  Speaker 7: we'll hear some of Margaret's songs and we'll be back
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  Speaker 7: to talk with Margaret herself.
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  Speaker 4: I am Captain Camel Toe. Wanna be your superman, put
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  Speaker 5: That's a squatting at 30,000 feet!
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  Speaker 5: Out for a bite at a place that serves kryptonite. Then,
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  Speaker 5: of course, we'd have a fight.
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  Speaker 4: But it always turns out I am.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, the time is now, the time is here.
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  Speaker 10: your brand, they're all so grand.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, what do you think of a night to rent?
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  Speaker 10: This is Carola Dew.
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  Speaker 6: Young, beautiful, desirable.
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  Speaker 10: Men found her irresistible.
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  Speaker 8: But something is happening to her.
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  Speaker 6: Something that she doesn't quite understand.
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  Speaker 8: And soon she will be swept up in a frantic
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  Speaker 8: everyday world and distorts it. Repulsion, a terrifying look at
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  Speaker 8: the dark side of innocence losing control. Repulsion, a shocking
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  Speaker 8: plunge into the nightmare world of a young woman's sensual fantasies.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my taser and put a stop to this.
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  Speaker 1: Towerbot out. Okay, monkeys. It's nap time.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, this is Lily Tomlin, and I'm on Movie Meltdown
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  Speaker 5: with Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen,
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  Speaker 6: pour myself a cup of ambition, and yawn.
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  Speaker 4: And stretch and try to come to life.
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  Speaker 9: Jump in the shower and the.
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  Speaker 6: Blood starts pumping, out on the streets the traffic starts jumping,
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  Speaker 6: and folks like me on the job.
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  Speaker 10: From nine to five. It's part of your problem, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't seen enough movies.
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  Speaker 5: All of life's.
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  Speaker 6: Riddles are answered in the movies. And now, on with
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  Speaker 6: the show.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, big dog.
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  Speaker 7: Why are you afraid of the wind?
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  Speaker 9: They will always blow the doors.
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  Speaker 7: And windows in.
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  Speaker 9: Wind is real.
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  Speaker 10: It's always there.
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  Speaker 5: Baby, big dog.
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  Speaker 1: Air.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, big dog.
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  Speaker 5: Why you always wait by the phone.
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  Speaker 9: He likes to say well But he never says when.
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  Speaker 8: And I will fight him If.
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  Speaker 4: He comes around again.
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  Speaker 9: We're silly creatures who need teachers.
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  Speaker 7: We've got problems.
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  Speaker 9: Can we solve them together?
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  Speaker 6: Together.
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  Speaker 4: Together.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, big dog, why do you howl at the moon?
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  Speaker 9: I never heard such a sad and mournful tune. All right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we're here with Margaret. I usually like to get
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  Speaker 7: into it kind of early with people and sort of
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  Speaker 7: see where everything started. So I guess, first off, how
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  Speaker 7: would you describe yourself as a kid?
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  Speaker 5: I guess pretty shy and quiet. I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a pretty shy, quiet person, so that would probably
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  Speaker 5: sum it up. I think that's what I've always been like.
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  Speaker 7: So not one of those kids that was trying to
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  Speaker 7: steal the attention from everybody else in the family and
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  Speaker 7: be in the spotlight?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 10: Wow. Well, I guess, you know, a lot of your.
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  Speaker 7: Stand-up, especially early on, was sort of based out of,
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  Speaker 7: you know, your home life and your family growing up.
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  Speaker 7: I guess, how early was it you started to realize, like,
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  Speaker 7: what was going on at home was funny, or at
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  Speaker 7: least funny to you.
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  Speaker 10: At the time?
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  Speaker 5: I just liked, well, I liked the art form. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even realize what was happening to me was funny.
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  Speaker 5: I liked the art form of whatever comic. was and
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  Speaker 5: what it represented, which was kind of freedom. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I just thought that was really interesting. And it just
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  Speaker 5: seemed like what I was going to do. And I
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  Speaker 5: started comedy so early that it was more just a
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  Speaker 5: wish to just, like, stop being a child.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I guess sometimes that stuff that you're interested in
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  Speaker 7: at the time influences you. What were you watching when
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  Speaker 7: you were still relatively young as far as, I guess
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  Speaker 7: in general, but was it some of the comedy.
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  Speaker 10: Or specific people that sort of tapped into what you got?
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of Carol Burnett and SCTV certainly
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  Speaker 5: was a big deal. All of that was really important.
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  Speaker 7: Was it something that you sought out that early on,
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  Speaker 7: looking for stuff on TV or comedy albums or.
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  Speaker 10: Stuff like that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was all really popular then, and San
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  Speaker 5: Francisco itself was a very popular comedy town also. So
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  Speaker 5: it was a big deal where I'm from.
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  Speaker 10: At that point, what were your other interests?
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  Speaker 7: If you didn't end up going into entertainment, was there
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  Speaker 7: something else you probably would have.
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  Speaker 3: Ended up in?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so. I was so young. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: really have any other choices or options, really. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it was not anything that I had really thought out well.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I just knew that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 5: a comedian and I knew that I was going to
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  Speaker 5: do it. And so it was just very clear to
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  Speaker 5: me that that was the right thing.
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  Speaker 10: Did you start to, again, you were kind of like
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  Speaker 10: a teenager at that point. Were you, like, pursuing it?
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  Speaker 7: In school, like taking classes or something that way, or
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  Speaker 7: did you just sort of go find it yourself?
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  Speaker 5: No, no, they didn't have anything like that. No, no, no. No,
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  Speaker 5: it was really not like you could study it in school.
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  Speaker 5: And I was far younger than anybody doing it at
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And you didn't know, like, performing or acting and stuff
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  Speaker 7: like that in school, or was it just.
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  Speaker 10: No, not really.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit, but not really.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, not... really seriously. I mean, I went to
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  Speaker 5: a performing arts high school, but that was not the
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  Speaker 5: same thing.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah. Well, and then you sort of took it
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  Speaker 10: upon yourself to get into stand-up. Where did you start finding,
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  Speaker 10: you know, places that would let you perform that young?
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  Speaker 5: There were places. There was the Holy City Zoo, which
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  Speaker 5: was really great, and.
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  Speaker 5: And then there was, like, I mean, the comedy club,
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  Speaker 5: you could still perform and get into it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and do shows, but you couldn't really hang out. So
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  Speaker 5: I was still able to do shows, like, every day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And at that point, you know, being that young, your
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  Speaker 10: parents were okay with that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, they were working. They didn't really know what I
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  Speaker 5: was doing, and they didn't have that kind of a
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  Speaker 5: hold on me or control over me that... you know,
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  Speaker 5: other kids would have had. You know, I didn't have
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  Speaker 5: that same kind of relationship with them and relationship with
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  Speaker 5: their ideas of what I should do.
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  Speaker 7: I guess at what point did it feel like you
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  Speaker 7: were moving into it professionally, that it really did sort
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  Speaker 7: of click, that, you know, it was going to be
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  Speaker 7: able to be something you.
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  Speaker 10: Could do as a career?
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  Speaker 5: I think it just didn't really... I mean, it didn't
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  Speaker 5: really take that long. You know, I started off... pretty
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  Speaker 5: much able to make a living, you know, in my
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  Speaker 5: late teens and early 20s, and then really was settling
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  Speaker 5: into that life of doing comedy.
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  Speaker 7: And it was, I guess, by the time you hit,
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  Speaker 7: you know, in the stand-up world, it was also right
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  Speaker 7: in that window of time when they were trying to
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  Speaker 7: take every stand-up comedian and give them a sitcom.
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  Speaker 10: So was that something, I mean, I guess.
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  Speaker 7: certainly career-wise, it was something you wanted, but was it
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  Speaker 7: something you feel like you were prepared for when they
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  Speaker 7: sort of threw this sitcom at you?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, no, but I didn't, you know, know anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I was so young, I didn't really understand what all
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  Speaker 5: that meant or what it was, and, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't really figure it out until later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it is sort of an adjustment as far as
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  Speaker 7: performing on stage and then getting into acting, especially a
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  Speaker 7: very stage sitcom kind of scenario.
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  Speaker 10: What What kind of adjustment was that for you?
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  Speaker 5: It was a different thing. It was really hard. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: and it was really exciting, but it was also super, like,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what I was doing, and I was
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  Speaker 5: really scared, and I just didn't get it, you know?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then you pretty quickly also started kind of venturing
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  Speaker 7: into movies. That's a totally different environment, too, I guess.
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  Speaker 7: What was it like as you sort of entered into
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  Speaker 7: a different scenario in working in movies?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I didn't do it as much as I did
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  Speaker 5: stand-up comedy. That was more, I mean, every once in
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  Speaker 5: a while I would get to do a movie, but
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  Speaker 5: in general, oh, and then I was making my own
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  Speaker 5: stand-up movies, which is a different thing, too. That's just
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  Speaker 5: like doing stand-up, but, you know, you film it. So
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  Speaker 5: that sort of, like, changed a lot for me, too.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, was that when you were taking a pretty
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  Speaker 7: hands-on role as far as creating the product itself as
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  Speaker 7: well as the stand-up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah and being more in charge of everything and being
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  Speaker 5: more active in it all yeah would you.
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  Speaker 7: Kind of go into some of the movies i didn't
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  Speaker 7: know if you had any any uh i guess you
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  Speaker 7: know you being on the set of some of these
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  Speaker 7: you know if you had any like what what's sort
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  Speaker 7: of the strangest thing that happened in the middle of
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  Speaker 7: like a movie shoot along the way.
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  Speaker 5: Um nothing so strange i mean i i worked on
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  Speaker 5: some big movies i worked on a movie called face
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  Speaker 5: off which was uh Really a big one with John
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  Speaker 5: Travolta and Nicolas Cage. And I guess what was weird
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  Speaker 5: is we all had stunt doubles for that film. So
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  Speaker 5: we had, like, this weird bodybuilder version of ourselves kind
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  Speaker 5: of walking around. So that's a trip.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's kind of a huge ordeal, that movie. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: I guess we're working with John.
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  Speaker 3: What was that like?
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  Speaker 5: He's great. He was a great, great, great person to.
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  Speaker 5: Just get, you know, get direction by and hang out with,
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  Speaker 5: and I really love John Woo. I love his movies,
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  Speaker 5: and I love him as a guy. He's a great guy.
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  Speaker 10: And just being with that cast, I guess, what was
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  Speaker 10: the vibe?
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  Speaker 5: Pretty spectacular. I mean, you know, as far as, like,
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  Speaker 5: movies go, it's a pretty funny one to say that
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  Speaker 5: you were in, and it's very, it's really pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 10: And kind of different than everything you've done up to
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  Speaker 10: that point.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, very.
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  Speaker 10: Definitely. Some of the other stuff.
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  Speaker 7: You ventured more into serious stuff with It's My Party.
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  Speaker 10: Was that a conscious decision to move into something more serious?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that movie was really special. I really fought to
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  Speaker 5: get that part. I really loved the movie. I just
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  Speaker 5: thought it was a beautiful story, and it was really
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  Speaker 5: about things that I understood, which, you know, people dying
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  Speaker 5: from AIDS, which I had seen and experienced. It was
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  Speaker 5: a good project to be involved in, and it let
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  Speaker 5: me kind of do something that was totally different for
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  Speaker 5: me at the time, be a super serious actress.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Again, usually taking things so light, was it a
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  Speaker 7: lot more adjustment to get into that mode as far
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  Speaker 7: as performing?
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  Speaker 5: I think so. I think it was, you know, it was...
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  Speaker 5: But a lot of it was improvised, too, and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of it was... just very loose, and it was
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  Speaker 5: based on a true story, so we were all allowed
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  Speaker 5: to meet the people that we were portraying as well,
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  Speaker 5: and that was cool.
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  Speaker 7: Looking ahead, you'd also, as you get into Bam Bam
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  Speaker 7: and Celeste, you wrote that and moved into producing it.
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  Speaker 7: Is it something that you wanted to move into as
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  Speaker 7: far as having more control over those kind of projects?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and it was kind of like a quintessential 90s,
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  Speaker 5: like early 2000s things to, you like, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: go and you do like a road film. And there's
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  Speaker 5: so many of these independent films that are like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're kind of, there's like different, they're all sort of,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, they've got that feeling of like a California
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  Speaker 5: or like Thelma and Louise or, you know, there are
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  Speaker 5: so many films from that era and like early in
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  Speaker 5: the 90s that it's almost like 90s noir and so
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: that's what we wanted to do is to do like
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: something that was a bit like Dumb and Dumber too
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  Speaker 5: but more of a queer bent on it and so
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  Speaker 5: that's really what that was that was in tribute to
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  Speaker 5: because I love I love movies and I love you
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  Speaker 5: know it's a whole different thing to write them and
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  Speaker 5: to produce them as opposed to just being in them
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  Speaker 5: it's quite a lot yeah is.
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  Speaker 10: It something you've become more interested in?
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  Speaker 7: Is it something you want to move into as far as,
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  Speaker 7: you know, creating more and more stuff as far as
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  Speaker 7: writing and producing?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd love to do that. I mean, it's more
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  Speaker 5: that my, um, work now tends to be like more
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  Speaker 5: about television and live performance. Um, and so those two
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  Speaker 5: things are really, uh, kind of more where I'm very
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  Speaker 5: active and, um, I love, but I'd love to write
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  Speaker 5: and produce more films and to do more acting in them.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's really important too.
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  Speaker 10: And you kind of ventured into directing a little bit.
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  Speaker 10: Is that something you're interested in somewhere down the line?
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  Speaker 5: Somewhere down the line. I mean, it's definitely... something I'd
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  Speaker 5: love to do. It's something also that I think is
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  Speaker 5: very tough. I think it's really, um, hard for me
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  Speaker 5: to do, um, to focus myself in that, in that
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  Speaker 5: way or tell stories visually, um, in that way as
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  Speaker 5: a director should. Like, I don't have that, um, you know, I, I,
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  Speaker 5: I don't, I, I, I don't have that, like, techie
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  Speaker 5: eye that will always, like, understand that I'm looking at
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  Speaker 5: from a camera's point of view. Like, I don't, always
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  Speaker 5: think into these two dimensions. It's too hard for me.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it's an unnatural thing for a director
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  Speaker 5: to not have that understanding of the camera. I just don't.
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  Speaker 5: So it's something that I probably have to acquire.
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  Speaker 7: There was another one that I just wanted to see
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: what your thoughts were that seemed a little out of
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: the ordinary.
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  Speaker 10: One Missed Call that was on there, was that?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that was cool. Well, that was like a remake
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  Speaker 5: of a J-horror movie. film and I made that um
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  Speaker 5: that was when for the first time I worked in
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta where it's like I'm opened up as a film
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  Speaker 5: market you know and they were like a place where
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: they would have locations like that's a big location now
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  Speaker 5: for filming they have a lot of movies there and
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  Speaker 5: my TV show films out of there now too so
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  Speaker 5: it was the first time I'd gone there and it
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  Speaker 5: was like I think when you do horror and when
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I was even doing Face Off you end up doing
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: a lot of night shoots which is really tough um
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you know, where you don't even... Like, the workday starts
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: when the sun goes down, and then, you know, it's just...
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: To me, horror films are the toughest to do, because
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you do have to actually, like, really focus on the light, and,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: you know, there's such an emphasis on trying to make shadow,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: and you can't be battling daylight with that. It's really hard.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: So I find... that's probably why I've not done as
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: much horror I've done some really notable things I was
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: in a Gregor Rocky film with Doom Generation which is
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: like a totally.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Totally great classic in its own way.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Very cool it's a total cult classic and it you
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: know it was really a spectacular movie and with the
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: amount of like dried like fake blood and I had
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: to have be covered in pig intestines so that's It's
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: not pleasant. I mean, that's the nature of horror. But
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the person that I work with, Selena Luna, she's a
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: comedian that I throw with. She does a lot of horror.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: She's gotten killed over and over in these films. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I just think it's so cool. But it is totally
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: a lot of work.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Well, you mentioned liking that and just kind of liking
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: movies in general. What's stuff that you personally are just
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: into as far as watching and enjoying yourself?
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Well, my favorite film is Belle du Jour, which is
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Catherine Deneuve's Louis Bunuel film. It's really great. It's when
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: she's really in her prime. You know, another one of
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: my favorite films is Repulsion, which was maybe a couple
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: of years before that. It's a Polanski movie. And I
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: love the 60s and early 70s for film. It's a
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: great time. I love.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: And I love any, like, French New Wave and Truffaut,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: and I love Bergman. Like, to me, that's sort of, like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: the golden age of movies is, like, the 70s and 60s. And, like, so,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: you know, in general, I do, I do, like, British
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: 60s comedies, like, The Knack and How to Get It.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, my film knowledge is very extensive over, like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: probably between, like, 1958 and 1975. and then I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: know anything after that, and there's nothing current at all either.
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: That's a good window, though, you know.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a good window, and it's sort of like
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: where I would guess. I do adopt a lot of
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: my personal style and whatever influenced me as, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: an adult, like becoming an adult. That's the kind of, like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: hair I want and the kind of makeup I want,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: the clothes I want, and it is, I guess, a
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: little bit like a Mad Men thing, but it's also,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: you know, going into the 70s, it's not as, much
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: of a period. You know, you sort of get looser
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and get wilder, but.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: A little gritty.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I really, if I... Yeah, all my favorite films are, like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: you know, these, like, French films or British films.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: I guess, you know, any of the weirder... Well, you
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: say you have not much now, but, yeah, you like
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: the horror? Was there horror from that time period.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: That you liked?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Horror from that time period? I guess it was a
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: little bit later on would be, like, The Exorcist.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Or The Omen. Those are great movies.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: You know, anything that sort of, like, was about the
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: fear of children, like Children of the Corn is a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: really good one. That goes into the 80s, or, like, Perry.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: It's really phenomenal. You know, that's a great one, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: that has sort of everything. It's not just horror, but it's, like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: teenage stuff. It's crazy, like, a religious mom. It's weird, like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Sissy Sissick, who is so beautiful and strange. But that's
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: a really exceptional movie. And I like all of the, like, Halloween,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: first Halloween, Friday the 13th. First one is great. The
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: greatest is Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Because it manages to be hilarious and also really scary.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: It was, yeah, something people hadn't seen at that point
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: in time. It was pretty strange for them.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: It was a really good hybrid and a really messed
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: up movie. But, yeah, I spent a lot of time
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: in the 90s, in the early 90s, with Clinton Tarantino,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: and we would just watch.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Heavy metal parking lot, and these really weird independent videos
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: that people made, or people that made movies in their homes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: There's another one called Black Devil Doll from Hell, which
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: a guy had made pretty much entirely on video, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: think sometime in the 80s. That's a pretty great horror film.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: But he made it with just a weird video camera
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: that he had. And he utilized a ventriloquist dummy and
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: a child and made a film, you know, made a
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: pretty legitimate horror film. So that's pretty great. Nice. We'd
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: also watch, like, Karen Black's Trilogy of Terror.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Which is like a TV movie from the 70s. The
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: little doll. The little doll.
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I think movies with little dolls are really scary.
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: Everybody's frightened of that doll to this day. Yeah. Or like.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: The magic with Anthony Hopkins, that's really scary, too.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: So dolls that come alive freak you out.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so with the simmies and dolls, it's like really,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: that's real horror.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, that's true. You were kind of hanging out
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: with Quentin at that time.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: He'd built up such a knowledge of movies from that
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: time period anyway.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: I guess was it just... him showing you all this
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: stuff that he was excited about. He was showing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Me and then also gathering knowledge from me because the
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: period of cinema that I'm an expert on, he knows
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: relatively little about. Because he's really about these genre films
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and noir and very much into action, like Rio Bravo
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and all those kinds of huge movies and samurai films.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know anything about about that but I knew
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: everything that happened in London and Paris and New York
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: from like 1978 to 1974 so that's a lot so
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: he didn't know anything about that but he did know
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: about his other stuff so it balanced out we taught
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: each other I think a lot of stuff about film.
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: That's interesting and yeah kind of a pivotal point for
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: both of you really at that point he just was
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: kind of breaking through at that point and so were
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: you Well, yeah, and I'm so.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: You know, it's beautiful to go see his movies now.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: And I see him every once in a while. And
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: he's so... He's so the same. And his movies... And
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: it's like, you know, when I.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen the last one, the newest one, which
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: I'm really excited about. But it's like.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: You know, all of his movies, I watch them and
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I know where this comes from, like from
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: where he.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Thought, like, oh, I see, it's going to be like this,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: and I understand so much of the film language that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: he uses in a very, very deep way, so I think,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: you know, when you have these friendships in your younger years,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: it does make sort of clear what your plans are
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: for the future. You can kind of, when you know
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: somebody when they're younger, you can kind of feel, they'll
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: become as an adult, a real adult, you know, it's cool.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it is interesting, because he, I mean, as a filmmaker, yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: you can kind of look at his work now, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: look backward and see where he was sort of piecing
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: this from this movie and this style from this movie.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: And so it's, it's kind of fun to think of
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: you sitting on the couch next to him as he's discovering.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: He had this huge, like he had bought this TV
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: that had letterbox everything. And this is like the, you know, very,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: very different in, um, the early nineties. So you didn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: have like TVs, like flat screens and stuff. And this
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: is so, he had like a huge, like new thing,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: TV that he had gotten like, cause, um, he made
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: a bunch of money from Reservoir Dogs. And so that
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: was like one thing he bought was like a TV.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: And then he had like gotten all of the, uh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: he'd bought the whole stock of, um, videos, the VHS
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: tapes from his old work video archive. So it was
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: like 8,000 movies.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Good.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: That he hadn't seen yet. So we were really going
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: through a lot of them.
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: That's crazy. Yeah, nobody had any idea what Letterboxd was
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: at that point.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: No, but we would laugh because we could watch Family
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Ties on Letterboxd.
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: Well, that's the only way to see Alex P.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Keaton.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Well, I was excited because on Sunday, Alex P. Keaton,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I got to meet him. I got to meet Michael J.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: Fox.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Wow. And he was an icon.
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: That's kind of amazing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Is there still, like, you know, big people like that
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: that you run into that still kind of.
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: Catch you off guard?
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's people who really throw
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: me in, like David Bowie, who is so kind and
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: lovely and warm and a beautiful man. It's so, you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: you get really intimidated by it. These people I do,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: you know, people like that. Certainly Bowie. And he's somebody
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: that is great in so many different ways. And I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: quite a recluse now. I haven't seen him in a while,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: but he's really fantastic.
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's done a lot in his time, too. So
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: it would be interesting to see. Yeah, you've kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: done different stuff as far as acting. Is there a
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: type of role or a type of movie that you
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: haven't done yet that you would be interested in doing?
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I would kind of sort of... I mean, I just
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: want to do everything. Like, I'm really open to whatever
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I can do, and I want to work, like, no
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: matter what. I want to work, and so I try
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: to just be the best that I can and try
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: to do as much as I can. You know, I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: very driven to just do stuff, and, you know, a
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: lot of that is really draining, but it's really fulfilling, too, so... Yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I need to do stuff.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Find a way to sort of bring about that 60s French.
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: Movie and find a way to make it work in
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: the modern day.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: That would be cool. I mean, you know, it's like
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: obviously we have a real appeal for the aesthetics and
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: the kind of storytelling because, like, everything on Mad Men
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: really mirrors that. Like, it is a kind of a
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: slow-moving drama, like human drama. And that's what all the
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: 60s stuff was. You know, like Joji Girl or, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: any of those, like, you know, Taste of Honey, any
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: of those, like, Rita Cushingham, like, movies. They're really these
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: human dramas that are told in very, like, stylish clothes,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: and that's really what Mad Men is. They unfold in
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: the same kind of drawing room way and Saturday night,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Sunday morning way and kind of writing, and I really
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: appreciate that. So I think it could be popular.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we definitely love the aesthetic of it, and, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: we can get on board with certain types of stories.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: I think, yeah, it's just finding the one that'll break through.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: And find the audience.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah. I mean, you know, there's things like, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: don't know if I fall, like, so in love with
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: film that's so stylized. But then, you know, there's stuff
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: that I, like, I guess you can get into that's
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: pretty affected by, like, sort of period, you know, things
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: like that whole, like, This is England series, and that
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: stuff to me is very much, it's sort of a
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: 60s thing too, even though it is set in the 80s.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: It is a period piece. Now the 80s is almost
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: like the 60s that we were thinking about the 60s.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: The way that we thought about the 80s now, we
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: thought about the 60s in the 80s.
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's weird how it all comes back around.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very weird.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: Do you have any new projects you want to tell
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: people about that are?
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: Working on?
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: I am, um, on tour now, um, I'm really just
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: working constantly, I'm doing two shows a night, and I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: on the road, and, um, this is what I love,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: you know, I wrote a new show, and I'm out
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: with it, and so that's what's going on, um, with me.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Uh, any new other, you know, you've kind of ventured
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: into so many areas now, I mean, you've done writing
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: and acting and fashion and music?
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: Is there other stuff going on that you're overwhelmed with
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: all these projects?
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I love doing stand-up comedy, and I really love
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: that most, and that's what I do, and then everything
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: else is stuff that I get to do. Stand-up is
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: my real job, and everything else is sort of like
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it just gets to be things that I get to do,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: like 30 Rock or or any of these great shows
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: that I'm able to work on. For me, it's a
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: welcome and exciting thing, but I love stand-up, and that's
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: what I'm always going to do when I don't have
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: another gig. Right now, it's all about stand-up. I'll be
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: doing stand-up shows for the rest of the year and
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: throughout the next year, so it's pretty busy.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: But since you mentioned it, yeah, your Kim Jong-il is
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: pretty impressive.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm very proud of it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: Nominated for an Emmy, so that's, yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Not bad.
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: Good to be recognized, yeah. Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: But, yeah, you mentioned stand-up being your real job. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: know a lot of comedians that are working now, it
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: is sort of like it's still so hard to find
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: an audience that they do have to take on these
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: other projects and sort of use those to find.
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: A new audience and bring in their audience.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: And, you know, even though stand-up is their real job,
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: they almost have to go into these other side projects
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: to reel in these people that may not have known
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: about them before.
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: I guess you have been doing that since the beginning, really.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's great. But definitely you want to introduce
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: yourself to new people, and there's so much out there
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: to get to be a part of. And I'm fortunate
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: in that I have a lot of great, great friends
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: and great people who I've collaborated with in all the
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: different industries, all the different disciplines in comedy and music
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: and in television. And so it's beautiful to be able
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: to do that and collaborate with other people who are
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: so talented.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: I think that was about it, unless you had anything
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: else to pass along to people.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: No, I think I'm good.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to be out there, so come see me.
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: Definitely.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: Is MargaretTroll.com the best place to keep up with you
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: as far as where your next dates are?
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's perfect.
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: Track you down. All right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: We'll tell everybody to go hit your website and, yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: come find you.
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: Out on the road.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Okay, great. Thank you.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: We're silly creatures. We'll need teachers. We've got problems.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: So yes, thank you to Margaret for talking with us
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: this week. And go to margaretcho.com and check out her
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: tour dates and go see her live while she's out
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: on the road. Alright, so to round things out here,
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: we're going to play another song. What may be my
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: favorite song on the album. The track entitled, I'm Sorry.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: And yeah, this being my choice, probably says a lot
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: about me. But the song also features Andrew Bird, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: that's something else you should go check out, is that
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: the list of guest musicians she's got on this album
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: is pretty impressive. So the album is called Show Dependent,
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: and I'm sure you can get it on Amazon and iTunes,
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: and you can definitely get it directly from Margaret's website.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: So go there and check it out if you're interested. Again,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: this track is called I'm Sorry. Otherwise, that about does it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: We will return next week.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Well I'm sorry I set your house on fire I
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: am a victim of my own desire And I'm sorry
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I sent you that suicide letter I was gonna die
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: but then I felt better And I'm sorry I shot
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: you in the face.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: I got this.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Feeling I was way off base And I'm sorry I
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: killed a deer Only wanted you to be near.
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: And I sincerely apologize. My actions were unwise.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: And now I realize that it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: Killed me when you died.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry I hit you with that brick.
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: At least your death was fairly quick.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: And I thought you'd take it on the chin But
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  Speaker 4: it looks like rigor mortis is setting in And I hope.
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  Speaker 9: You weren't in too much pain I.
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  Speaker 4: Guess I'm criminally.
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  Speaker 9: Insane And I sincerely apologize. My actions were unwise.
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  Speaker 6: And now I realize.
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  Speaker 9: They killed me when you died.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I shouldn't have hidden you in the attic.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I got a flair for the dramatic And
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  Speaker 4: I know your family is so bereaved I just couldn't
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  Speaker 4: let you leave.
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  Speaker 6: And yes, I made.
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  Speaker 2: A big mistake.
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  Speaker 9: But my love for you was not fake And I
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  Speaker 9: just had all I could.
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  Speaker 4: Take So I drowned you in the lake And now
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  Speaker 4: they're calling for an autopsy I just wanted you to
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  Speaker 4: notice me.
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  Speaker 9: You just wouldn't love me and this.
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  Speaker 4: I can't forgive. My pride was stronger.
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  Speaker 5: Than your will to live.
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  Speaker 6: Your will to live. And in food news, you've had
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  Speaker 6: enough to eat today.
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  Speaker 10: Now here with the weather is Johnny Mountain.
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  Speaker 4: North Korea, everything's sunny all the time, always.
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  Speaker 3: Good time, beach party.
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  Speaker 10: Back to you, eh, Lorib?
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  Speaker 3: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
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  Speaker 8: Talk hard!