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195. Joshua N. Haldeman - Elon Musk's Apartheid-Loving Grandfather · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Now I have a new episode coming for you Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: same bat time, same bat channel. But I thought I
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  Speaker 1: would just give this little bonus episode given the current
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  Speaker 1: news being that of Elon Musk has become the world's
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  Speaker 1: first trillionaire. Now two things. First of all, one cannot
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  Speaker 1: become an ethical billionaire. So being a trillionaire must be
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  Speaker 1: like extra unethical because there is no way that you
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  Speaker 1: can consistently pay workers a loving wage, and that I
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  Speaker 1: mean like a proper living wage, depending on the location
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  Speaker 1: that they are living in, like what would make them comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, living wage. Now, you can't do that and
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  Speaker 1: become a millionaire, billionaire, trillionaire, you know. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: is as well, the trillionaires exist, or he exists, because
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  Speaker 1: companies are not doing what they're supposed to do, which
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  Speaker 1: is pay their fucking tax. Okay, you're supposed to pay
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  Speaker 1: your tax. That's how it is for everybody. So Elon
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  Speaker 1: Musk has managed to build businesses like there was Oh
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  Speaker 1: there's a quote from his dad. I think I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it in this this episode actually, where his dad talks about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he started with nothing. He just took some
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  Speaker 1: of my emeralds from our emerald mind and sold them.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like that's that feels like one theft of
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  Speaker 1: the company in two doesn't feel like somebody started with nothing,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so this whole thing about becoming a
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  Speaker 1: trillionaire is the second part I wanted to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Is that's not real money. It's it's just jenga. You're
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  Speaker 1: just moving the blocks, right. So the man does not
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  Speaker 1: have a trillion dollars in his bank account. Also, he's
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  Speaker 1: an legal immigrant, you know that. Like, I just I
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  Speaker 1: just want to point it out. I'm just pointing it out,
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  Speaker 1: like so gave her someone off for the others. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just mentioning it. But with him
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  Speaker 1: being in the news, I thought, well, why not talk
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  Speaker 1: about his grandfather and all the stuff he wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: And that without further ado enjoy it. Joshua N. Haldeman,
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musks apartheid loving grandfather. Good day to you, sir,
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  Speaker 1: Good day. And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking,
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  Speaker 1: Katie quit your Jabba jaba in fact me, in fact
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  Speaker 1: you I will. But first we've got to get our
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  Speaker 1: source on. Our sources are Elon Musk's anti semitic Apartheid
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  Speaker 1: Loving grand Father by Joshua Benton, Social Discredit, Antisemitism, social
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  Speaker 1: credit and the Jewish Response by Janine Stingle. The World
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  Speaker 1: according to Elon Musk's Grandfather by Jill Lapore, Joshua N. Haldeman,
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  Speaker 1: d C. The Canadian Years nineteen twenty six to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty by Scott Haldeman and Joseph C. Keating, How the
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  Speaker 1: roots of the Papal Mafia extend to apartheid South Africa
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  Speaker 1: by Chris mcgreel, The International Conspiracy to establish a world
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  Speaker 1: dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa by Joshua N. Haldeman.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we have our old favourites, history dot
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  Speaker 1: com and biography dot com. iOS It in comfortably good.
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  Speaker 1: Then let's begin. We are currently in February at time
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  Speaker 1: of recording, which for those of you who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: over in like UK and Ireland, it is LGBTQ History Month,
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  Speaker 1: but over in the States and Canada also I believe
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  Speaker 1: it is Black History Month. And because my listeners are
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  Speaker 1: fairly global, like you'll are all over the place. That
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  Speaker 1: being said, Hello, whoever listens to me in Trinidad and Tobago,
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  Speaker 1: because I know you listen and you always have me
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  Speaker 1: in the charts, so you're great. Don't know who I
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  Speaker 1: was listening to me there, but hey, hope you're having
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  Speaker 1: a good time. And I thought, well, why not start
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  Speaker 1: off Black History Month? But talking about a big dudty racist,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that is a good start to the month. Also,
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  Speaker 1: as a white woman, it is not for me to
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  Speaker 1: encroach in spaces where I do not belong. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for black history by a black historian, Redacted
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  Speaker 1: History is a fab podcast you should listen to. He's amazing. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that being said, As a white woman who is entering
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  Speaker 1: her fuck about and find out era I can bellow
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  Speaker 1: and scream about the terrible actions performed by other white people.
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  Speaker 1: I will be out carroning the Karens and I hope
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  Speaker 1: you're here for it. So naturally, with the current political
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  Speaker 1: climate going on and the man who went from space
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  Speaker 1: race to space racist super quick to anyone not paying attention,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, why not go back into this history a
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  Speaker 1: wee bit and maybe have a weight discussion and tell
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  Speaker 1: you all about Elon Musk's apartheid loving grandfather. You could
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  Speaker 1: be forgiven for assuming that our story would start in
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  Speaker 1: South Africa, because that's all we hear, you know, family
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  Speaker 1: from South Africa. But our story actually starts in a
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  Speaker 1: log cabin in Minnesota on the twenty fifth of November
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  Speaker 1: nineteen two. Elon Musk's maternal grandfather, Joshua and Norman Haldman,
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  Speaker 1: was born in a log cabin in Peacot Lake, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: He was the only son of John Elon Haldeman that's
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  Speaker 1: where the Elon name comes from, and Almida May Haldeman.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Joshua, when he was only two years old,
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  Speaker 1: his father, John was diagnosed with diabetes, which at the
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  Speaker 1: time was a death sentence because back in nineteen oh two,
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  Speaker 1: insulin was not an option. I don't even think it
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  Speaker 1: became like a fully fledged diabetic treatment until like the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, and like, up until then, you basically had
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  Speaker 1: two arguing sides about how to treat diabetries. Like it
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  Speaker 1: was a death sentence. You were not going to survive
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  Speaker 1: very long, and you kind of ended up in two
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  Speaker 1: camps and they were both sort of diatry. It was
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  Speaker 1: maintained with diet, and there were still some forms of
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  Speaker 1: diabetes which are mainly controlled by diet. But back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, it was mainly controlled with extreme diet, and
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  Speaker 1: because it's the past, opiates lots and lots of ol piates.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, people were always taking like
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  Speaker 1: cocaine and heroin, and for this it was morphine. Morphine
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  Speaker 1: was the drug of choice, and it really either made
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  Speaker 1: you like over eight and then die or then not
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  Speaker 1: really eat enough and then die. Like back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: it was fairly common for people with diabetes to just
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  Speaker 1: starve to death, like they would just starve, and diabetes
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  Speaker 1: is one of those conditions that for a very very
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  Speaker 1: long time people just didn't understand what was happening with it,
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  Speaker 1: like they didn't grasp it specifically. And maybe I should
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  Speaker 1: do an episode specifically on diseases like little bonus ones
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  Speaker 1: on the Patreon maybe, but that's for another day. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that another time. Back to this sidebar, people
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  Speaker 1: often died within months of being diagnosed, and what the
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  Speaker 1: doctors were suggesting. John's wife wasn't feeling. She wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: into it, and she kind of wasn't too into the
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  Speaker 1: whole traditional medicine scenario, especially living in rural Minnesota, and
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  Speaker 1: like didn't want to see her husband suffer. So Almida
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  Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman. I called her May earlier, but Almida Jane Haldeman,
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  Speaker 1: she was like, we're getting the heck at a dodge.
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  Speaker 1: She is just not feeling traditional medicine at all. She says,
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  Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and goes to
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  Speaker 1: chiropractic school in Minneapolis. She gets her Doctorate of Chiropractic
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  Speaker 1: certificate in like a couple of months, which, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we've all spoken about how in the Victorian era it
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  Speaker 1: took a very short time to become a medical professional.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like this is part of the par or,
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  Speaker 1: like it's the nineteen hundreds. We're good, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: so she's like, great, let's get out of here, and
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  Speaker 1: they move up to Saskatchewan in Canada, where Amilda Haldeman
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  Speaker 1: became the very first, the actual first chiropractor in all
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  Speaker 1: of Canada, like the first Canadian chiropractor, like not even
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  Speaker 1: first female chiropractor, like she was the very first one
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  Speaker 1: at all. Which you know what, Amida that I say,
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  Speaker 1: hats off to you, because that's pretty cool. Granted, at
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  Speaker 1: the time, in chiropractic practices, well very much alternative. This
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  Speaker 1: was very alternative at the time, because one, it was
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  Speaker 1: like a decade if that old. In two it was
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  Speaker 1: still very much linked to pseudoscience and spiritualism because like
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  Speaker 1: the guy who came up with a Dade Palmer, he
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  Speaker 1: claims that he discovered the practice by going to the
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  Speaker 1: other side, like the spiritual realm, he passed through the
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  Speaker 1: veil and it taught him chiro practic techniques allegedly, so
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  Speaker 1: like as far as medical practices, though this is very
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  Speaker 1: much hippy dippy essential oils of the era. That being said,
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  Speaker 1: she must have been doing something right because John, her husband,
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  Speaker 1: when most people with diabetes died within a couple months,
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  Speaker 1: he lived for another four years. But life moves on
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  Speaker 1: and so does Almida, and she remarries a rancher named
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  Speaker 1: Hazeltine Wilson. I love all timing names. And Almida. She's
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  Speaker 1: a busy lady. She has many fingers, many pies. She's
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  Speaker 1: a chiropractice. She sets up a restaurant and also becomes
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  Speaker 1: a teacher at a local school. I'm getting newer divergent
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  Speaker 1: vibes from Almida here. I'm definitely feeling it. And Joshua,
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  Speaker 1: he grows up on his step Favel's ranch in rural Canada,
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  Speaker 1: where he does manly ranching things. He rides horses, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't go to the doctor because he doesn't believe in
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  Speaker 1: traditional medicine. After years of doing manly Canadian ranching stuff,
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  Speaker 1: he does go to school, and he goes to and
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  Speaker 1: I shit you not nine separate sort of colleges and universities,
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  Speaker 1: and there was no record of this man, Joshua Norman Haldeman,
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  Speaker 1: of completing any of them. Like, so he went to
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  Speaker 1: get educated and then did not complete anything. It seems
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  Speaker 1: there was no record of him graduating anywhere at all
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  Speaker 1: from any of these schools, not a one. And I
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  Speaker 1: know sometimes like documents in the past can be difficult
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  Speaker 1: to find, but the fact that there isn't one out
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  Speaker 1: of nine highly suspicious if he did graduate. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go with nah. I'm going to assume that
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  Speaker 1: he just didn't like how things were running there, because
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  Speaker 1: like in later interviews, in like diet and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: he always talks about how he grew up on a
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  Speaker 1: ranch and was very self reliant, like a manly man
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  Speaker 1: who did things for himself. But usually those kind of
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  Speaker 1: men aren't good at taking direction from other people. So
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  Speaker 1: I have my suspicions. So yeah, he ends up when
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  Speaker 1: he's like twenty, like nineteen twenty, like he's having vision issues.
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  Speaker 1: He's having problems with his eyes. But instead of going
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  Speaker 1: to I don't know, an optimologist or an optometrist, he's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: none of those traditional doctrine for me. And so he
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  Speaker 1: travels to Davenport, Iowa, where he travels to get extreme
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  Speaker 1: chiropractic treatment for his eyes. So they believed that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the issues in the body could be resolved
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  Speaker 1: by like aligning the vertebrae and stuff like that. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like reflexology. They're like, oh, if I rub
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  Speaker 1: your toe this way, you won't have digestive problems anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Massage is cure diarrhea. You've heard it your first lads.
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  Speaker 1: Joshua Haldman reminds me of the guy in Monty Python
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  Speaker 1: who builds swamp castle. This that I was daff to
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  Speaker 1: build my castle on the swamp, but I built it
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  Speaker 1: all the same. It sunk, and I built a second
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  Speaker 1: castle on it fell into the swamp, and the third
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  Speaker 1: castle it burned down, fell over. Then sack came to
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  Speaker 1: the swamp. But the fourth one, the fourth one it stayed.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what this is like with his nine music
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  Speaker 1: cacilities and colleges. Because Joshua Haldeman this is his fourth
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  Speaker 1: swamp castle. He goes to the chiropractic school, studies for
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  Speaker 1: four whole years and graduates in nineteen twenty six as
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  Speaker 1: a Doctor of Chiropractic and after four years of treatment
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  Speaker 1: in study, Joshua claims that he does not need optical
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  Speaker 1: aids of any kind and thanks to special extreme chiropractic
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  Speaker 1: treatment from his lifelong friend bj Palmer, chiropractor and possible
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  Speaker 1: committeer of patricide. But anyway, Joshua claimed that for the
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  Speaker 1: next twenty years he will not require any optical aids,
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  Speaker 1: no glasses, spectacles, monocles, none of that jazz. He's like
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  Speaker 1: got perfect eyes thanks to his buddy Bjay. After Joshua graduates, however,
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  Speaker 1: he does not go into the chiropractic field. Instead, he
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  Speaker 1: returns to ranching. Unfortunately for Joshua, this was not exactly
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  Speaker 1: the most opportune moment in which to return to farming.
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  Speaker 1: You see nineteen twenty nine, the stock market crashes and
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  Speaker 1: also there is a ten year drought in Saskatchewan, Canada.
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  Speaker 1: The drought was bad enough because you're already struggling to farm.
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  Speaker 1: You're not getting the same returns on your labor. But
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  Speaker 1: they're in the midst of the depression and people are struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Finances are down, and the banks start calling in their loans,
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  Speaker 1: especially on farming equipment, and so Joshua here cannot keep
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  Speaker 1: up with the read payments. And so just like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of his neighbors who were also leasing farming equipment
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  Speaker 1: and could not keep up with the payments. But the
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  Speaker 1: banks ends up losing his farm, the ranch gone, just
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  Speaker 1: like a bunch of people he knew. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a turning point for Joshua because this is a moment
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  Speaker 1: in his life where like a switch is flicked and
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  Speaker 1: he decides that he hates banks and hates the government.
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  Speaker 1: Now heating banks. I get it, I get it. We
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  Speaker 1: bail them out. They've done stupid shit for so many years,
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  Speaker 1: and yet here we are. But although for Joshua it
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  Speaker 1: was less about the banks being financial institutions and more
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  Speaker 1: about who was running the banks, very much scapegoat poisonous
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  Speaker 1: mushroom scenario. And Joshua he's lost his farm. What is
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  Speaker 1: he going to do? A man who hates government, decides
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  Speaker 1: to get into politics. And here's the thing. The conditions
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  Speaker 1: in this area of Canada are fucking dire. Like people
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  Speaker 1: are one hundred percent struggling. And so I can understand
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  Speaker 1: when people are struggling to feed their children and to
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  Speaker 1: get through the day and pay for their necessary medicine cough,
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  Speaker 1: that they end up looking towards more radical political movements
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  Speaker 1: that they think are going to ensure the betterment of
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  Speaker 1: their lives. And so Haldeman again no farm, nothing to do,
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  Speaker 1: very pissed off at the government and banks and the bankers, bureaucrats, etc.
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  Speaker 1: He ends up joining several political movements. First, he's very
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  Speaker 1: much on the left, the Cooperative Commonwealth Foundation. This was
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  Speaker 1: like an amalgamation of various labor, farmer and socialist groups,
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  Speaker 1: which is basically a farmer's co op, which expected the
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  Speaker 1: government to provide more relief and to alleviate the pressure
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  Speaker 1: for people suffering in these areas in Canada, specifically farmers
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  Speaker 1: and farming communities. And by the mid nineteen thirties he
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  Speaker 1: becomes a big supporter of this. He even becomes the
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  Speaker 1: local party chairman. All the while Joshua here is surviving
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  Speaker 1: off of a government relief program. So just to confirm
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, just to make sure we're all on the
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  Speaker 1: same page. Here, Joshua Norman Haldeman is currently complaining about socialism, bureaucracy,
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  Speaker 1: the government while being part of political party and also
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  Speaker 1: in receipt of government subsidies. We are clear great this
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  Speaker 1: being a time where employment is at an all time low,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of take the jobs that you're giving. And
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  Speaker 1: Joshua was traveling around and he takes a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: odd jobs. He does a lot of like cowboy stuff,
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  Speaker 1: so he's like herding cattle, he's doing ranching, he performs
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  Speaker 1: in rodeos, and also construction here works construction because they're
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  Speaker 1: still building things, so there's a job. He is quite
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  Speaker 1: literally living the nineteen thirties League Depression era hobo living
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  Speaker 1: like that is his life. He's jumping on freight trains.
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  Speaker 1: He's living in I don't want to call it like
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  Speaker 1: a shanty town, but like the little tent towns, Like
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  Speaker 1: that's the life he's living. Meanwhile, he's got a wife
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  Speaker 1: back home, like his family is back home and he's
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  Speaker 1: just not going near them, like I think eleven years
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  Speaker 1: they're married in total. But yeah, he's just like off
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  Speaker 1: doing this and she's back in Saskatchewan and so he's
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  Speaker 1: traveling around doing this all the while. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: because I think this is just funny, he hates Coca
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  Speaker 1: Cola because at this point coca cola still had cocaine
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  Speaker 1: in it, so it was made with cola, nuts, cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: something else. I don't remember the rest, but like other
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  Speaker 1: things that, I've got a whole episode in Coca Cola.
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  Speaker 1: It's like episode three or four. Go back and listen
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  Speaker 1: or don't. It's actually shockingly bad audio wise, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna record that again. But anyway, hates coca cola
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  Speaker 1: because there's cocaine in it, and so he believes people
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  Speaker 1: are being overly medicated with coca cola and that that's
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  Speaker 1: an issue because again he doesn't believe in medicine, like
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  Speaker 1: it's the whole thing. But yeah, he's out doing his
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  Speaker 1: hobo life and eventually comes back to Saskatchewan, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: their marriage doesn't stick. I think they cite financial difficult
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  Speaker 1: is the reason for divorce, which during the nineteen thirties
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  Speaker 1: everyone's like, yeah, that seems fair, that seems fair. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can't fault her though eleven years of this dealing
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  Speaker 1: with him hobo and around Canada, only for him to
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  Speaker 1: come back, start a debate society and then get a divorce.
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  Speaker 1: Like cool, She's like cool, thanks adio. Somego bye bye.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty six, he ends up in Regina, the place,
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  Speaker 1: not the person, just to clarify, and he becomes enamored
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  Speaker 1: with a new political ideology, technocracy. What is technocracy, Katie, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked, because I'll tell you so. You
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  Speaker 1: know how, democracy is a system of government that ideally
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  Speaker 1: is by the people for the people, Like it is
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  Speaker 1: a rule which should be done by majority vote. People
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  Speaker 1: that make the rules and enforce the rules would be elected,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's democracy. People should have their say majority rules.
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  Speaker 1: Now a technocracy is saying that we don't need that
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  Speaker 1: because that's emotional. We shouldn't be ruled like that. Everything
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  Speaker 1: should be clinical and should be led by engineers. And
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  Speaker 1: later on they add scientists to that, but initially, at
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  Speaker 1: this point in time, it's specifically engineers, like let the
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  Speaker 1: smartest people do the job. And before the Second World
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  Speaker 1: War breaks out, Joshua joins Technocracy inc. Technocracy Incorporated was
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  Speaker 1: the brainchild of one Howard Scott, a renowned scientist and
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  Speaker 1: engineer with a doctorate from the University of Berlin. He
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  Speaker 1: had been involved in really complicated projects across the world.
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  Speaker 1: He had worked in munitions factories in Britain and industrial
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  Speaker 1: projects for US Steel, and those involved in Technocracy Inc.
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  Speaker 1: Believed that it would solve all the issues currently being
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  Speaker 1: caused or mismanaged by the governments. It believed it could
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  Speaker 1: create a more rational and productive society because it was
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  Speaker 1: controlled by technical experts instead of politicians and other such people.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: In Technocracy Inc. Goes out of its way to state
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that it is not a political movement, even though it
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: is entrenched in it. They have this whole goal for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: changing society for the better, and the first thing is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to remove all elected officials and replace them with technical experts, scientists,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: engineers and the like. The smart people are supposed to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: be in charge. They're like officially smart people, but like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: who's testing for that? What are you know the prerequisites?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Who watches the watchmen? Yep, you know it's it's a system,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: but there's no regulation really in that. It's a bit
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: weird anyway, So countries don't exist. It's like a single entity.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Countries don't exist. Everybody is part of and now quote
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the technate. They're all part of the Technque, ruled by
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: engineers and scientists because they know how to make a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: productive society. Because they're not relying on emotion. Capitalism is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: out the window, which is not the worst thing in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the world, because like people confuse commerce in capitalism all
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the time, they're two separate things. Anyway, I'm not gonna
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: get into that right now. So they're like, capitalism is
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a way we don't want money. Money is a problem
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: because nobody earns an income. So just to keep everybody
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: on the same page, there is no government. Engineers, scientists,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: they're running the show. There are no countries. Everything's part
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: of the Technque. There is no currency, like the concept
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of currency has gone. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: money is gone. Okay. Instead you have energy vouls. So
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: as part of their functional control system, the Technique would
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: measure the total energy output of the continent and any
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: other continent, and annually a lot to each citizen a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: set number of energy certificates, which would replace money. This
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: would mean people wouldn't go into debt, they wouldn't be
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: able to save anything for the future. And they also
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to buy or sell anything, and the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: value of goods or services would be measured not on
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: how much they cost to produce money wise, because that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and not on how much physical human labor
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was involved in creating it, but on how much energy
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was consumed to produce the product or produce the nervis
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like literal energy, like burning coal. It's basically removing the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: human element from society. It's weird. It's so it's not
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: even rational, it's not even logical. It is just devoid
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of humanity. It's weird to me because technocracy is trying
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to present itself as this utopia of equality, when all
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it's done is invented a new form of rations. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just rationing, but in a different format. And this is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: where they really ensnared people as denizens of the technocracy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You would only have to work from ages twenty five
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to forty five, so you've only got twenty years of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: work in and if you think that's good, right, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: only have to work about four hours a day for
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five days a year, so you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: have two hundred days or two hundred and one on
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: elipe yea off free time, leisure to do as you pleased.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Because everyone would just been living a completely rational life.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You would have more time for leisure activities. And remember
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: this is during the Great Depression where people are struggling,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and when you hear ideas like this, of course they're
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: going to grasp onto it with two hands. That being said,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: there was a journalist who was able to smell some
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: bullshit in the air and started to do some digging
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: on mister Howard Scott. See he was not the genius
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: engineer he had claimed to be. No, he was talking
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: right out of his horse, that's right. His entire backstory
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was a complete fabrication. Walter Mitty here had not just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: claimed to be a super genius scientist man, but he
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: had also claimed to be a football star Notre Dame,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that he started a literal riot in Montreal after some Jesuits,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and that he once had to flee to Mexico because
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he shot an archbishop. But of course Howard Scott wasn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: going to let something like the truth get in the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: way of his big dreams. And Joshua, who's going by J. N.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Haldeman at this time. He is a massive fan. He
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is super into Technocracy Inc. It is his jam and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: his butter, And by the late nineteen thirties, not only
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: is he like an active member, but he was the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Canadian president of the Canadian chapter of Technocracy Inc. I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: feel like this is a good time to remind everybody
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that Joshua Norman Haldeman was a rancher come chiropractor who
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: was now the Canadian chairman for a political movement that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was claiming not to be a political movement that was
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: based on the concept of a socialist utopia the utilized
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: slave labor. So, like the members of Technocracy Inc. They
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: always start wearing like matching gray uniforms and it's like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: of all the options they chose, we want one that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is devoid of color. It's gray like machines, like good guys. Cool,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. So, yeah, they're all
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in gray uniforms and they're saluting each other at meetings
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in what some have referred to as not dissimilar to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: certain fascist salutes like brown shirts and black shirts and
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the like, just putting it out there anyhow, they're doing that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: They're wearing these gray hacking uniforms so depressing, and they
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: are it's suggested, it's suggested by Scott that they refer
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to themselves by number and not by name, which makes
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: me wonder if anybody kind of stood up in the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: middle of it and was just like, I am not
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a number, I am a free man. For those of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you who get that reference, you're welcome. I like old things,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: so you know, the numbers, not names. The weird matching outfits,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the saluting people are noticing, but they're not getting too
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: mad about it because it's Canada and they weren't too
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: worried about that. But by nineteen forty, World War two
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: has been going on for about a year. Technocracy Ink
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is banned in Canada, and not because it's aligned with
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Nazis or Nazi ideology or anything akin to that. It's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: because it was politically opposed to the Second World War,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: or i should say Canada's involvement in the Second World War.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So effectively, Technocracy Ink was anti war because they believed
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: that war was a waste of energy and resources. Which
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: here's the thing what's wrong, Like war is a waste
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of energy and resources. But unfortunately, when tho's injustices happening
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: across the world, and some motherfucker thinks it's perfectly acceptable
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to try and annihilate another group of people for no
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: fucking reason other than their own bigotry. Yeah, get up,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: do shit, solve the problem. You want a fucking utopia,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: then you have to create the utopia. You cannot let
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the bad people win. Sidebar. I'm gonna take a moment
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to tell you about a movie called Equilibrium starring Sean Bean.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, he dies. That's why I don't trust any
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: movie Sean Bean's and Cuma watching him suspiciously every single time.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So the movie is called Equilibrium, I'm fairly certain. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's a society where emotion has been removed. It is
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a crime to feel emotion, and so everybody is taking
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: these pills to stop themselves from feeling things right, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: so everybody goes about their day without feeling any emotion.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So you can't enjoy poetry or art or anything like that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And people are not taking the meds and our feeling emotions,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and it's a whole thing. But it reminds me kind
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of of this whole concept of technocracy because they're trying
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to remove the human element from humanity, which is bad.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's just a shitty idea. So roll back to Technocracy
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Incia and they are anti war. They're anti politics, allegedly,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: they're like not what in Canada has be involved in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a world war. They don't like Nazis, which is good
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: because nobody should like Nazis. I feel like this is
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: something I should not have to explain to you. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if you hold Nazis in high regard, you've got a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: fucking problem. You need therapy because you are wrong. You
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: are just objectively wrong as a person. Okay. No, they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: don't like the Nazi Party because they're political and because
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they started a war, which wastes resources. That's why they
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't like them, because they wasted energy and resources. They
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: don't like any form of communism or socialism, specifically because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they don't believe that is the best way to distribute resources,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: because it should be divvied out by engineers. They don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: like capitalism because it's a waste of energy and resources.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And so because they release a statement saying that they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: are anti war, Technocracy inc Is banned in Canada and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: on the eighth of October nineteen forty, Joshua Haldeman is
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: actually arrested by Mounties the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: charged with belonging to an illegal organization under the Canadian
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Defense Act. Why because he was out printing Technocracy ink flyers.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: He had paid for it to be printed in a
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: local newspaper. Like I feel like this is an actual
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: literal definition of a paper trail. Like you left an
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: actual paper trail, Joshua, Oh my goodness, I didn't even
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: tell you his number. So Joshua Norman Haldeman's number was
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: one zero four five zero dash one. In the way
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that they came up with these numbers, it was like
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the longitude and laritude of the place in which you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: were residing. So because he was in Regina, again the location,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: not the person, that was his number. And Joshua, a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: man who clearly loved to hear his own thoughts, wrote
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in the Technocracy Inc. Magazine predicting an upcoming smash of society.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do a wee Transatlantic accent for you. All.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Technocracy Inc. Is preparing for a new social order that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is to come. If you are a Techno quid, are
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you doing all that you can to extend the organization
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and discipline yourself to marrior it subjectives, and like before
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the ban actually comes into play, Howard Scott Is out
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: there telling everybody that Technocracy Inc. Is so powerful and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: so influential that it will affect the government's decisions to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: be involved in the Second World War. So Joshua tries
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: to travel, like from Canada down to the US to Minnesota,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota, EH to do like a speech regarding technocracy, Inc.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But he stopped at the border and they're like no, no,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: thank you, You're not allowed. So you're back to Joshua
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: being arrested by mounties. So he'd put an add in
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the paper. He had his paper trail, and like twelve
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: buildings end up being raided by mounties, including his. He
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: gets arrested and then is charged, and he is charged
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: with distributing and publishing documents likely or intended to interfere
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: with the efficient prosecution of the war and likely to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: cause disaffection to his majesty. Joshua was convicted on all counts,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and so he either had to pay a fine of
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars plus court costs or spend two months
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: in jail. So he's convicted in nineteen forty. The following year,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Joshua decides it's time to leave Technocracy Inc. You say,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the man had become disillusioned with the organization and the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: utopia it was supposed to create, and so he establishes
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: his own party, Total War in Defense by nineteen forty three.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So like before the end of the war, even Canada
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: ends up removing the ban from Technocracy Inc. Like they
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: realize it's not anti war, or they accept it's not
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: anti war, or that they don't have the power to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: do what they say they're going to do, like to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: create dissent. For whatever reason, they unban it. But at
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: this point he is already hitched to another wagon. Consistency,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it seems, is not Joshua Norman Haldeman's strong point. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: think that might be genetic, you know. AnyWho, Between him
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: starting his new party, Total War in Defense and Technocracy
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: INK being like unbanned, he falls in love. See, for
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, he decides to take up dance lessons. Maybe
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: he was just craving social interaction, who's to say, But
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he takes up dance lessons and he falls in love
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: with his dance teacher, Josephine Fletcher, who unsurprisingly goes by
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Winnie as opposed to Winnifred. So he and Winnie get
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: married in nineteen forty two. So forty one he sets
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: up his party, forty two he gets married, forty three
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Technocracy inc On banned, and Winnie gives birth to a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: set of twins, May and Kay I shit you not,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: they named their children May and Kay and May yes
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is Elon Musk's mother. The Holdomans actually go on to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: have two more children, so they have four in total.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And just to remind Joselle, Joshua also has another kid
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: from his first wife, who he has no connection to. Again,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: weird how that happens. So he's got a wife, two kids,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and he's a fairly big member of the DCCC, which
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: is the Dominion Council of Canadian Chiropractics. So here's a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: funny story. Actually, because we're still during the war, right
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in the DCCC, they have a meeting with the Canadian
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Army because they're like, hey, how about we send chiropractors
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: off to war like to treat soldiers, And the Minister
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of Defense is like, it's okay for them to enlist
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: as orderlies, but they're not allowed to enlist as doctors
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't see them as doctors. And then this
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: goes like down the chain to the head of the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Canadian Army Medical Corps and they're just like, no, you're
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be non combatants. So like, if
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you come here, you have to actively fight in the war,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: not just be cracking backs in a tent. Like, but
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the chiropractors want to be treated as doctors, and they
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: use the Soviet Union in who are like the Allies.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: They're saying, like they treat caro practors and doctors equally,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you should do it too. Needless to say, this doesn't
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: pan out for anybody in Joshua sort of between forty
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: three and forty four he founds a new political party
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to align with the Social Credit Party of Canada, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this all comes from an idea by a Scottish man
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: called Cleveld Hugh Douglas, and so he had this concept
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of social credit. So like Joshua was like super into
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Howard Scott, who had you know, was a big bullshitter,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and then goes to Clifford who Douglas, who was also
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a bullshitter, who made up a bunch of stuff of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: his past as well, Like you said, he was the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: chief engineer of the British Westinghouse Company in India, but
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: like there's no information, there's no record of his existence
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: there whatsoever. He's just like pulled it out of a hat,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like Yep, no, this is the British westing House Company. Yeah, uh,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: we're where we got all the colonies India. Yep, that's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: where they are. Yeah, where there's like no record of
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: him doing anything. So this social credit party, which is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Douglas's idea, he believed that the financial system, so capitalism effectively,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that there was a natural imbalance in it. When I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: tell you the amount of jargon I had to dig
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: through to get to this core concept. Basically, workers don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: earn enough money if they cannot consume the goods they produce.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Like if you made boots, you should be able to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: afford the boots, If you made bread, you had to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: be able to afford the bread, et cetera, et cetera.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And that in social credit, in order to bridge that gap,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the government should provide sort of a stipend, like sort
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of like a universal basic income that everyone should have
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: in order to survive. And Douglas felt that social credit
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: should exist within a political system, but it wasn't the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: political system itself. This is actually a great segue for
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: me to talk about Marxism. So Marxism does not exist
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Marxism exists within capitalism because, as far
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: as Marx was concerned, the polarity, the distance between poor
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and rich was too wide, and that these should be closer,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like nobody should be mega rich and nobody should be poor. Basically,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you know, no billionails right, effectively billionails didn't exist then,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: but also no, so the gap between rich and pool
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: should be closer, right, so that nobody's loving in poverty
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and nobody's buying twelve fucking super yachts. Release the orcas. Anyway,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it exists within capitalism. That's how Marxism works. So social
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: credit should exist within some kind of system. However, Douglas
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: believed that it was incompatible with democracy, and it was
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: also supposed to be part of like this Christian altruism system. No,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to trash anybody's economic system, except I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: absolutely am, because it's fucking laughable. So like the idea
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of getting like a boost to your income makes perfect sense,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: like that in itself I don't really have too much
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: of an issue with but he wanted like goods to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: be worthless and the government to pay more. And but
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like this is a time where we're talking about like bread.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: You know, bread should be much cheaper, like corang se
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: be much cheaper. Yeah, okay, co, but you still have
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to pay farmers. Like it was a whole it's a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: whole weird thing with like some very strong Christian roots
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and oh oh boy, does Joshi love this? And what
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: do you know, he eventually becomes a provincial leader of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the Social Credit Party. There must be more than this
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: provincial life, which there is because he goes on and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: becomes the party's national chairman. And for a party that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: believes in having a basic universal income, they're not really
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a big fan of equality or equity, Like they're so
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: anti communists, like no sharing and caring hair pals, Like
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: they're not into that at all. And in case you're wondering, yes,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it does get worse because it's not only anti communists,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: but it's also anti Semitic because it bloody hates banks, right,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: which on its own again you're thinking that's fine, people
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: can hate banks, bankers or wankers quite a lot of
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the time. But the reason that they were so staunchly
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: anti bank was mainly big because Jewish people worked in
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the banks, because the banks were Jewish. That's it. It's
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: based specifically on that. And J. N. Haldeman has to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like tell members not to be too overtly anti Semitic, like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: don't do too many dog whistles, guys, because the press
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is starting to notice and we don't need the bad publicity.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Their aggressively anti Jewish movement did not go unnoticed, like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the Canadian Jewish Congress were well aware of them, like
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: they were genuinely concerned by the actions of this party,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and like the Social Credit Party I think in Canada's
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: entire history, is like the most anti Semitic party that
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: has ever existed. And the Socreds have like a bunch
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of newspapers and shit, and in one of them they
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: actually print this bollocks. It is propaganda. It's a fake
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Zionist like peace. It is the protocols of the Elders
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: of Zion. It is pure conspiracy fodder, right, And when
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he is called on it, Joshua says that the plan
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is outlined in this protocols has been rapidly unfolding in
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a period of observation of this generation. Effectively, the soul
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Creds made up this fake text, right, this fake document
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: saying that Jewish people were part of a secret society
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that we're planning to take over the world. Right, it's
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: absolute fucking nonsense. Right. But Joshua was like, this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: clearly happening and says, and I quote this evidence indicates
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that anti Semitism is a whopon of international finance and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: socialism to introduce totalitarianism. He's trying to say that people
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: accusing him of being anti Semitic is a way to
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: create dictatorships. That's what he's saying. That's what as fucking bonkers, pal,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you need to either take more or less of your medication.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which. It's such a fake, It is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: such a complete fake that like a Swiss court ends
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: up dealing with it and they're like, this is officially bollocks,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Like this is the fakest fake that of effect, Like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that's like someone trying to paint the Mona Lisa. But
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it looks like what that wee lady did when she
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: tried to repaint Jesus and made him look like a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: monkey like that. And this is in nineteen forty seven.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: This is two years after the end of World War Two,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: where literally millions of Jewish people was slaughtered like animals.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And he's trying to say that there's a secret World
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: War I'll try to take over, and like, here's the thing.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Jewish people in banks for
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: a quickly second. So the reason that Jewish people are
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: typically associated with money and money lenders in banking is
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: because of discrimination throughout history, and that's where they ended
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: up because that was the only positions that were available
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to them, like for a long time, unless they were
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: working within their own communities. Those were the ways that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: they made money. It's kind of like that whole trope
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: of gay men becoming hairdressers, right, and it's an old one,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and it basically went that heterosexual men do not work
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: in hair salons. Homosexual men work in hair salons, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: so what would happen is outwardly gay men would get
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: jobs in hair salons because they knew they'd get a
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: job as a hairdresser or whatever, because that was a
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: safe space for them. Like stereotypes happen because society usually
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: forces it to be that way. Like that was the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: example my old lecturer gave us on our very first
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: week in sociology, because like when you first start, they
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: try and like deconstruct your biases and things like that,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and so it sort of talked about things like that
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and how stereotypes exist and how to challenge those stereotypes
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and the inherent bias that we have within its, so
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: things like that. So Jewish people became money lenders because
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: that was the employment that was available to them, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Joshua Norman Haldeman here is convinced that Jewish people were
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: controlling all the banks and therefore the governments and everything
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: in between. And he wanted Jewish people to join the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Social Credit Party of Canada because Social Credit is pro
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Christian and pro Canadian. It is nineteen forty eight. J. N.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Haldeman is married, he's got four kids. He's part of
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: a political party with some dodgy origins and current stuff
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: going on, and his chiropractor business is doing well, and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: he also finds his new passion in life and he
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: never gets what it is. Flying. He obtains his pilot's license,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: which just makes things much easier for him. So before
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: he'd be driving like six hours to get from one
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: practice to the other practice, or he was trying to
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: go to one rally i mean meeting, and you'd be
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: going from A to B and now you could just fly,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and so he was zooming across the airways. My favorite
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: part about the political side of this is the fact
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that J. N. Haldeman managed to lose every single election
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: he ever stood in, Like he never won once, he
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: didn't even get close. He just failed consistently. I mean,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: this is a definition of a man who kept failing upwards,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, he's using the plane to fly
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: from like practice to practice. He's doing political stuff. He's
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: taking his family on trips, and he even goes to
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: like the Palmer Lyceum down into Avenport, Iowa, where he
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: says his best day, B. J. Palmer, which is where
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: they're having this big chiropractic event, and so he goes
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: down to it. It's like a conference and he does
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: this big speech about personal freedom. Whoa. He's there with
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: his wife and May and Kay the Flying Twins, like
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: they actually get named the Flying Twins because they're like
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: look at these babies on a plane, or like these
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: toddlers on a plane. It's like the old timey version
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: of going viral, Like it was like, wow, look at
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: these babies on a plane. So it becomes like a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: big thing and it ends up on like the TV
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But back in Canada, things were not going
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: super great for Jen see he was losing a re
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: election and also was convinced that communists were everywhere. Like
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he ends up getting absolutely like ball that by a
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: group of like housewives in Regina and Canada because he
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: tells them they're like affront for the Communist party, like
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Canadian housewives, like you're technically communists? What may what? So, like,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: he tries to gather sort of proper funding for the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Soul Creds, but he just can't do it, possibly because
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: he's pissed off all the bloody bankers. So by nineteen
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: fifty he's like, oh, the government's out to get me.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Everybody hates me. And instead of moving to I don't know, America,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: like United States, of which is just across the border.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, he loves Minnesota. Eh, clearly he's born there,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: like he he could easily move to the United States,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: like he just moved there. Him and his family couldn't
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: move them all, he chooses not to do that and
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: instead decides nineteen fifty time to move to South Africa.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Like it was a surprise for most people that he
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: decided to upsticks and move with may Ky and Whinne
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: like down to South Africa, because it, for a lot
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: of people just seemed to come out of nowhere. But
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he says that he was inspired to move there by
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: an Anglican minister from South Africa that he met at
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a Toronto trade fail, the place that Anglican ministers are
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: known to frequent and when he moves there with may Ky,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Whennie and the whole kit and Kabul, like the apartheid
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: regime is only really being like established, like it wasn't
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: running for like this entire time, it wasn't fully integrated.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: But he came just at the right time for him.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: And like in South Africa, because most people were clean shaven,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they thought he was a bit weird because he had
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to be. And it's like reddish brown. That being said,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I've never met a man who didn't have a bit
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: of red in his beild, Like it just seems to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: be a thing anywhow not relevant, but I just noticed it,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Like you'll start noticing it to you. But like does
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: some man have red in his beild? Everyone does. So
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: their life in South Africa did not start off in
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the most luxurious of ways because like he sells everything,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: gets rid of everything, grabs the wife and the four kids,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: gets on a boat and travels for like a month
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: to get to South Africa, and the entire journey he
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: is just chucking buckets. He has terrible seasickness. He is
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: not doing well, and he arrives in South Africa without
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: knowing anybody, without having any sort of plan, like he
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anything set up, like nothing, Like they arrive
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and they have to sleep on a beach because he
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: hasn't organized anything, Like they have to stay on the beach.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Will they build a bloody plane? Like it was a
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: plane kit, like you could buy a plane kit back then.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just like making it out of bicycle parts
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and an old engine like Lilian Bland. No, he was
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: building it from a kit. And so then they had
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the plane and he flew across trying to find somewhere
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: to be. This is the wildest part, Like this is
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: a thing crazy men do. This is midlife crisis nonsense.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Right here, oh, just sell up your entire life. Make
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: your family travel listening to your puke for a month,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: make them live on a beach. Will you build a
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: plane so you can figure out your next step? And
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the man is, we know, Love's flying. So he's flying
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: all over South Africa trying to find somewhere to go.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: His own family say that he wanted to to do
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: like adventuring because he was like an adventure junkie and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: love traveling around like he is flying his plane, so
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he's trying to find someone to live. Yeah, but he
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: is also trying to find the lost city of the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Kalahari Desert. And he would do it every summer. Every
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: summer he'd get in his plane and he'd be like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this lost city. I'm a white man,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it, like sure, buddy, Sure. Like
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: he loved flying about so much. He'd be in South Africa.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: He'd been up in Rhodesia. So Rhodesia is like you
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: think apartheid was bad, Rhodesia is a proper white supremacist
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: state and people fucking hated it. Like even the British
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Empire thought they were too racist. The British Empire, like
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: it was awful and it's just shitty, but anyway, South Africa.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: So when he finally settles down in Pretoria, he hints
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: up writing an essay back to one of the old
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: newspapers in Canada, basically stating like how amazing life is
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: an apartheid South Africa. And I'm gonna do the voice
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: again because I'm gonna read you almost verbatim. I'm not
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: gonna say some words. We have two Native and Word
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: garden boys in the summer and one in the winter,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and a Native girl. We give them food and a
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: lot of their clothing and pay them from ten dollars
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to fifteen dollars a month. The law requires that we
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: supply them with separate furnished rooms with nine inch brick walls,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: private toilet and shower. In fact, better living accommodations than
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed for most of my life in Canada. It
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: is impossible to make a Native work hard. It takes
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: three Natives to do the work of one white man,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and white people here work half as hard as Canadians.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, it gets worse. Black labor in South Africa
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: industry is found to be the most expensive labor in
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the world. The males among the blacks on their reservations
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: do not work at all, and the women may work
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: an hour or two. So on the reservations. Their standard
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: of living is not very high, but they are happy
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and contented with it unless straight up, as during the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: up is an almost impossible job. In spite of the
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: best efforts of the communists, they've had practically no success.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Any talk of a native uprising in Africa is purely
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: communists wishful thinking or propaganda. There is no place in
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the world where the natives are treated better nor receive
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: higher wages than here. Strict law enforcement is necessary to
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: prevent the natives from surrounding territories from flocking here. He's
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: basically saying that everything's great, the working conditions are great,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: he pays everyone so much money, like everybody is doing amazing,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: and that they have to stop people from other African
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: countries coming to South Africa because native indigenous people of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: South Africa are having too good a life and as such,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: other people are flocking there and they have to stop it,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and that very strict laws as part of this apartheid
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: regime are necessary to keep order and that that everyone
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is too lazy to revolt, Like that's that's what he's saying.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: He goes on to say a native may be able
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: to read and write in four languages and have no
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: understanding of them, or maybe he just understands what he
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: wants to understand. Some are quite clever in a routine job,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: but the best of them cannot assume responsibility and will
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: abuse authority. The present government of South Africa knows how
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to handle the native question. They are endeavoring to make
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the native as independent and self supporting as possible. The
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Communists and their fellow travelers continually misrepresents the government's efforts.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: See Josh boy, he always felt like he was hot
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: done by that he had a tough life. Like here's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: the thing, living through the Great Depression. Granted, I will
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: give you that that sucks, right, but you have every
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: opportunity to make a good life for yourself if you
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: just loved it and enjoyed it. But instead you wanted
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to remove the rights of other people. Because apparently, unless
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he can physically see someone being oppressed in front of him,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: then he must be the one being oppressed, and he
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: is trying to convince more Canadians to move to South Africa.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: He's trying to get a greater white population there. He's like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: everything's better here and the natives are stupid and we're
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: so much better than them. It's not just racism, it's
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: eugenics as well. It's like this whole fucking thing. And
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he's trying to convince racists to move to an area
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: and make it even more racist, like Elon Musk's racist
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: grandfather is trying to do that. He's like, come, let's
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: treat these people as if they're not human. But look
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: how well I'm treating them. They have the ability to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: work for me, even though they're so stupid they can
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: only just about do their jobs. Like what the actual fuck, Joshua.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: He's also, by the way, getting super tight with the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: South African government because he's doing it's chiro practice stuff.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: He's clacking the backs of South African leaders, government officials, presidents,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the whole shaban and like even his office, like his
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: chiropractor practice, like the governor's mansion was like I think
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it overlooked it even it was like fairly close. And
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: his business builds for like the next ten years, and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: then in nineteen sixty, the Prime minister comes to visit,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: like the British Prime Minister Harold McMillan is there and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're being a bit racist. Like the British
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister has been like us a bit much, lads,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I think you might be crossing a bout of a line.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Isabella and Ferdinand of Portugal,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: who were like, okay, Christopher Columbus, could you maybe not
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: subjects of Portugal should not be slaves? Christoph Columbus, Okay, okay,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Like it's got that kind of vibe to it. It's like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: don't do that, pal, that's not appropriate. And in retaliation,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman writes a book, The International Conspiracy to establish
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: a World Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa, like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: he does write another book which is The International Conspiracy
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and Health, Like the dude loves of conspiracy and the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: conspiracies all revolve around Jewish people and socialists have a
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: secret society that is trying to take over the world,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be surprised if he was also the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: person who came up with the Lizard people, like I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: would not be surprised. So he thinks Jews and socialists
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: are trying to rule the world and they're doing it
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: through control of health, because remember socialists want everyone to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: have like social health care, universal health care, medicine and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Jewish people are doctors. And so he's like, ah, they're
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: trying to get us with medicine and floride in the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: water and vaccines. Ah, Like nobody's putting a five G
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: chip in your brain. Pow, Like it's not happening. Like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: if you walk around with a phone, people can track you.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's not the algorithm knows, buddy. I we're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: gonna give you another one of the quotes. Okay, the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: conspiracy feels like any medical intervention, so long as it
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: is in mess is a desirable procedure. Above all, promoters
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: of the world government have always been behind mex vaccination programs.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Like he was worried that this Jewish socialist medical secret conspiracy.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: We're trying to control the world through vaccinations, which kind
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: of explains why Muskie Boy himself when absolutely feral during
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: COVID Like here's the thing I want to make clear
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: to you, they tested the COVID vaccine. I get my
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: boostoos Like every opportunity I get because I don't want
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to be responsible for the deaths of other people. You know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to explain to you that we should
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: care about other people. And the whole thing about vaccinations
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: is we know what's in them because they list the ingredients,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: and we know how we respond to them because of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the immuno response we have, which is why if you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: get a vaccine, a lot of the time, after you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: get a jab, you'll get a fever. Like I react
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: bloody horribly to all my jabs. I am sick for
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: full twenty four hours, sometimes more. I have fevers because
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I have some kind of autoimmune condition that my doctors
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: haven't figured out yet. But I react really badly. But
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: what's a day or two of just shitness than you know,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the death of somebody on chemo, Like I don't want
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: that on my fucking hands, like it, neither should you.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: We know the effect of the vaccine because we have
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: an immunal response. Naturally, there's going to be some people
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: that are going to have a worse reaction and some
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: people will have a better reaction. That's how things work.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Like I'm on birth control. You know, one of the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: side effects for birth control is death. Death. Another one
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: is cancer or blood clots. Like, none of these are good,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: and yet I keep doing it. Okay, if I'm willing
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to go through that. If you expect anybody to go
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: on birth control and you're not willing to get vaccinated,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: you don't deserve to have sex. I'm gonna say that now, Okay,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: AnyWho rant over back to Joshua Norman Haldeman, Elon Musk's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: race's grandfather living in South Africa with his wife Winnie
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: and their group of children. So he's there, he's doing
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: his chiropractice stuff. He's and they're also putting out like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: bulletins every month in the chiropractic office. And so you've
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: got way May Young May of May and Kay. The
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Flying Twins fame Elon Musk's mother. She would like help
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: write a bunch of the stuff. And the twins would
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: like do shit about the office like they would do
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: reception work. And I think from when they're like twelve.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: It started when they're twelve, and they just kind of
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  Speaker 1: went up from there. Anyway, forget about the Flying Twins
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  Speaker 1: for a week. Second, we're gonna roll back to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty you've got Heward McMillan who's like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's a good idea, old chap. I think they're being
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  Speaker 1: away bit far about the whole concept of apartheid, because
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  Speaker 1: he sent us one of the people to kind of
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  Speaker 1: have away investigation. Because there was a protest of indigenous
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  Speaker 1: South Africans, of black South Africans were protesting the cruelty
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  Speaker 1: or the latest cruelty of the apartheid regime, and in
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  Speaker 1: a move that surprises absolutely no one, they opened fire
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  Speaker 1: on the protesters. Sixty nine Black South Africans were killed,
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred and eighty more were wounded, and unsurprisingly,
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  Speaker 1: the law enforcement and the government justified the slaughtering of
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  Speaker 1: innocent humans, stating that the native mentality does not allow
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  Speaker 1: them to gather for peaceful demonstration. For them to gather
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  Speaker 1: means violence. This was known as the Sharp Film massacre,
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  Speaker 1: and in March nineteen sixty the United Nations passed Resolution
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  Speaker 1: one three four, which was the first official condemnation of apartheid.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like the start of I'm gonna call
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  Speaker 1: it diplomatic isolation, Like you had McMillan been like, okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: this is definitely too much like you can't just shoot people.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't the old days of the empire. You can't
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  Speaker 1: just do that. And so like this led to like
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a schism, and so this led to
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  Speaker 1: himself Huldeman producing the book, like I want to add
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  Speaker 1: as well, it was self published, like a publisher didn't
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  Speaker 1: do it for him. He self published this book, the
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  Speaker 1: International Conspiracy to establish a World Dictatorship and the Menace
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  Speaker 1: to South Africa. This book is forty two pages long,
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  Speaker 1: and let me tell you it is forty two pages
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  Speaker 1: too many. Like in this book that he chose to
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  Speaker 1: write and then publish, he actually goes on about other
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  Speaker 1: black people from other nations are going to try and
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  Speaker 1: invade South Africa because of the Sharp film massacre and
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  Speaker 1: it's like you think they want to put themselves in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: front of the fire and s what like you think
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: that's situation. And he also blames like the world's media
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: for calling attention to it because he says it's not
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: like a big deal because he doesn't think, you know,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: the slaughter, the murder of sixty nine people and the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: wounding of like one hundred and eighty others is acceptable,
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  Speaker 1: Like he thinks that's fine. Like he refuses to call
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  Speaker 1: it a massacre. He calls it a riot, and he
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: says it happened on purpose to affect the South African
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: stock market. Like the man is coco bananas. Okay, this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: is this is not a healthy person who is coming
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: up with these ideas. And like at the very end
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: of his book, like he gives reading recommendations and it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: just to a bunch of anti Semitic like newspapers and journals,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: like it's just a trover them. And that's the type
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: of tripe he's were gurgitating for the rest of his life.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: But anyway, when he's in his late sixties, in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy one, his grandson Elon Musk is born to May
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  Speaker 1: and Eryl Musk. And three years later in nineteen seventy four,
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  Speaker 1: Dayan Haldeman. He's in his plane, he's got a passenger
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: and he's flying one day and as he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: get to the ground, he's trying to do like a
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  Speaker 1: practice landing, the wheels get caught in a telephone wire
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  Speaker 1: and it basically just sling shots him to the ground
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  Speaker 1: like the entire plane and he is killed, I believe
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: instantly He just like an old timey Acme Cutton. He
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: just splats right on the ground where that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: see those telephone wires, considering how fantastic his eyesight was
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: from you know, all of that chiropractic treatment. AnyWho. So
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  Speaker 1: ends the story of Joshua Norman Haldeman, a man who
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: had a fondness for men with dodgy credentials and backstories
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  Speaker 1: and big ideas on how to upturn society, who was
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  Speaker 1: convinced that socialists and Jewish people were working together as
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  Speaker 1: puppet masters to destroy civilization and rule the world, That
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: any disease could be cured by a good chiropracta in
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  Speaker 1: the vaccines will just affront to create dictatorships, and that
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  Speaker 1: democracy was the root of all evil. Thank you all
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