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The Rita Panahi Show | 29 April · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On skying loads Ostrodia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panicky Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, the Prime Minister flounders when asked a simple
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Speaker 2: question about the power prices. Patrick Carline will be here
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Speaker 2: to cover the day's top headlines, including Adam Vans ABC tantrum,
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Speaker 2: tens of millions plunged into darkness across a number of
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Speaker 2: countries in Europe.
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Speaker 3: I'll speak to an expert about whether.
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Speaker 2: Renewables are to blame. Kosher Gator has the latest from
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Speaker 2: the US as President Donald Trump notches up one hundred
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Speaker 2: days in office, and Stephanie Bastian should be here to
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Speaker 2: talk about a male athlete playing netball in a women's
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Speaker 2: competition and we never neglect that he's losing it. Tonight
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Speaker 2: starring this confused lass who seems to think that there's
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Speaker 2: no difference between a fetus and.
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Speaker 4: Assist abortion is anything. If I had a cessed on
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Speaker 4: my uterus that would be considered an abortion.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but first.
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Speaker 2: Simon Holmes Accord, the man behind the Till movement, has
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Speaker 2: issued an eleventh hour plea to support us to funnel
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Speaker 2: even more money into Climbate two hundreds million dollar fighting fund.
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Speaker 2: He's been warning that the Till's enemies had been underestimated
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Speaker 2: and that four MPs, in particular Monique Ryan, Zoey Daniels,
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Speaker 2: Sophie Scamps and Kate Cheney, are at risk of losing
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Speaker 2: their seats. This comes after volunteers for TILL MP Monique
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Speaker 2: Ryan were films saying they were instructed to vote for
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Speaker 2: her by the Hubei Association, an organization which has in
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Speaker 2: the past been accused of working with the United Front Department,
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Speaker 2: a Chinese Communist Party agency tasks with carrying out Beijing's
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Speaker 2: foreign influence operations. Monique Ryan has distanced her self from
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Speaker 2: the volunteers, claiming that she doesn't know them.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this, There's News.
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Speaker 2: Corpse senior writer Patrick Carl and Patrick are the Tills
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Speaker 2: in trouble. Some like Zoe Daniel have flown under the radar,
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Speaker 2: while Monique Ryan, she seems to be a bit of
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Speaker 2: a headline magnet.
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Speaker 5: Well, she's had a muddled campaign, if you want to
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Speaker 5: put it like that. There's been so many awkward moments
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Speaker 5: for Monique Ryan. She's been very visible, very busy, but
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Speaker 5: starting with her husband, I think been caught ripping out
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Speaker 5: the campaign sign.
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Speaker 1: It hasn't gone the.
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Speaker 5: Way that they would have hoped, and look, the world
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Speaker 5: has changed since twenty twenty two. I think the Till
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Speaker 5: vote back then was in a reflex almost to the
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Speaker 5: disdain that so many people felt for Scott Morrison and
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Speaker 5: for Scott Morrison's government. Climate change was a very big
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Speaker 5: issue then. It's still a big issue, but it's not
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Speaker 5: in the top five as we speak, so that hit
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Speaker 5: headwinds in a way that they certainly didn't face in
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 2: I think there'd been a lot more trouble if the
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Speaker 2: Coalition mounted a stronger campaign on energy policy, because cost
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Speaker 2: of living is such a huge issue, and we've seen
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Speaker 2: the tlmps show that they're not conservative alternatives. They're far
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Speaker 2: closer to the Greens than they are to the Coalition,
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Speaker 2: and that was the cell. Initially, this was supposed to
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Speaker 2: be an alternative for disenchanted liberal voters, Coalition voters, but
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Speaker 2: when you look at how they're voted, their voting record,
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Speaker 2: I mean you might as be voting for the Greens.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've had three years of reality since I've been elected,
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Speaker 5: and we've seen that those ideals that they talked about transparency,
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Speaker 5: they talked about accountability, ability in politics, and those really
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Speaker 5: did appeal, as I was saying before, because Scott Morrison
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Speaker 5: didn't seem to represent those things.
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Speaker 1: The world has changed a lot.
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Speaker 5: You've had issues of transparency with some of the campaigns
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Speaker 5: and it will be really interested to see how they go.
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Speaker 5: It's one of the the big questions I think for
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Speaker 5: Saturday Night.
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Speaker 1: How do they go?
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to play you an extraordinary little exchange.
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Speaker 3: Listen here to two.
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Speaker 2: JB's Mark Levy put pressure on the Prime Minister over
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Speaker 2: power prices and his personal property. One minute he says
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have a private property.
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Speaker 3: In the next minute.
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Speaker 6: He does, you do have a personal property in Sydney?
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Speaker 6: Has your electricity bill gone up or down?
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Speaker 7: Obviously? I am live a life of privilege serving in
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Speaker 7: the lodge.
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Speaker 6: Simple question there, while we have a private property, the
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Speaker 6: Prime minis has gone up all down your electricity bill?
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Speaker 7: Well, I don't have a private property.
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Speaker 6: What I do is have So you don't have a
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Speaker 6: residence anywhere apart from the lodge, Yes I do, but
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Speaker 6: I don't.
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Speaker 7: I don't engage in any any pretense.
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Speaker 8: I don't live a life of.
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Speaker 1: But but what does that mean? My question to you is,
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Speaker 1: Doessky bill.
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Speaker 6: At your private resident's gone up all down? It's a
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Speaker 6: very simple question.
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Speaker 7: Well, I live in the lodge.
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Speaker 9: That's where I live.
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Speaker 6: So you're not there to tell us what your private
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Speaker 6: property your electricity, but whether it's gone up or down, that's.
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Speaker 10: Where I live.
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Speaker 2: Patrick PM didn't handle that too well. One minute he
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Speaker 2: doesn't have a private property, next minute he does. One
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Speaker 2: minute he's living a life of privilege, next minute he's not.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of that?
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Speaker 1: Look it was a poor moment.
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Speaker 5: Look you would think that his strategists would be saying, well,
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Speaker 5: you're going to be asked these questions, and that he
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Speaker 5: would have been better prepared.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think he just got caught out.
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Speaker 5: He was dreadful in the moment, which does happen to
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Speaker 5: be fair from time to time. You would have thought
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Speaker 5: he would have been in a position to actually try
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Speaker 5: and distract that question.
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Speaker 1: Away in a way that he couldn't.
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Speaker 5: Obviously, and you cringe when you listen to that, don't you.
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Speaker 2: You would think someone with his experience would handle those
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Speaker 2: sort of questions much better.
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Speaker 11: Now, SMP Global has worn.
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Speaker 2: That Australia's Triple A credit rating is at risk thanks
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Speaker 2: to the huge election spendeth on from the major parties
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Speaker 2: and the massive growth of off budget funds. But the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister is not heeding this warning that he is
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Speaker 2: instead lashed out and attack the agency. Here's what he
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Speaker 2: had to say on the seven thirty report.
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Speaker 7: The Triple A credit rating is there and what we've done.
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Speaker 7: They must have been beside themselves whoever wrote that particular
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Speaker 7: report when the coalition left us with a seventy eight
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Speaker 7: PM dollar deficit.
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Speaker 11: I'm confused, hear Patrick.
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Speaker 2: The PM is questioning the economic credentials of the experts
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Speaker 2: at standard and pause. I mean, really, is that a
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Speaker 2: plausible argument against what they have said? And to be fair,
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Speaker 2: they had criticism of both sides that is that the
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Speaker 2: coalition spending promises are also too high.
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Speaker 5: Look, it's been a spenders on this whole election campaign,
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Speaker 5: hasn't it from both sides. I just keep sort of
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Speaker 5: matching one another when the other side releases a policy
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Speaker 5: and you've got a situation now where Look, you've got
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Speaker 5: to listen to the economists before you take politicians seriously.
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Speaker 5: When it comes to numbers, they're basically saying our credit
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Speaker 5: rating could come down because there is so much spending
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Speaker 5: and there's going to be so much debt. And this
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Speaker 5: is on both sides, and I mean mister Albinezy sort
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Speaker 5: of responses, well, it'll be worse under the coalition. But
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Speaker 5: you look at that off budget fund which you mentioned.
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Speaker 5: I mean that that was supposed to be I think
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Speaker 5: thirty four billion dollars over five years. It's now over
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Speaker 5: one hundred billion dollars for the next five years.
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Speaker 1: It's become a.
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Speaker 5: Slush fund for vanity projects and it's technically off the books.
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Speaker 1: That's a worrying thing, definitely.
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Speaker 2: But is this Australian electorate largely disengaged from those macro shoes.
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Speaker 3: They care about tax.
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Speaker 2: Cuts or things that they will see in their bottom
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Speaker 2: line in their household budget, but things like the national
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Speaker 2: debt infationary pressures they seem to be I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it's the lack of economic literacy in the country
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Speaker 2: or whether there's just too complicated an issue for a
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Speaker 2: politician to properly articulate. That doesn't seem to be much
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Speaker 2: of a concern.
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Speaker 1: Look, that's certainly true.
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Speaker 5: I mean, both sides have sort of launched this have
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Speaker 5: this sort of phony campaign, you for like, where we're
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Speaker 5: talking about distractions, we should be talking about immigration, We
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Speaker 5: should be talking about defense. Most certainly no one's talking
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Speaker 5: about defense. We should be talking about how we're going
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Speaker 5: to provide secure energy and how we're going to keep
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Speaker 5: prices down, but for the long term, not next week,
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Speaker 5: not next month. And this whole campaign has been just
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Speaker 5: back and forth. We haven't been they've panned to what
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Speaker 5: they think this strain electric concerns are, and those concerns
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Speaker 5: are relatively minor, and in the moment there's much bigger
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Speaker 5: issues here. There hasn't been a lot of vision, has
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Speaker 5: there effort.
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Speaker 2: It's all been all about immediate gratification.
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Speaker 11: There's not much in long term planning.
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Speaker 2: You'd say the nuclear policies that that comes into effect
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Speaker 2: into twenty thirties, but the Coalition barely mentions that. And
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Speaker 2: it's a real point of differentiation with Labor and I
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Speaker 2: wonder why they don't stress that point more, why they
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Speaker 2: don't come up with policies that are going to impact
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Speaker 2: energy prices in the next few years.
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Speaker 5: Look, they've played too safe, the coalition right from the start.
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Speaker 5: They've tried to make themselves a small target. You end
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Speaker 5: up with these infuriating debates about how much about costings
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Speaker 5: and whether it's six hundred billion dollars or whether it's
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Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: And at that point everyone turns off, don't they.
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Speaker 5: I mean, people are sick of politicians sort of out
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Speaker 5: the other side and it's become this tip for tat
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Speaker 5: sort of scenario that really has left the electric very disengaged,
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Speaker 5: I think, and I think the coalition in the post mortems,
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Speaker 5: depending on the result, you'd look back and you say,
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Speaker 5: why weren't you bolder, Why weren't you actually describing visions
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Speaker 5: for the country that actually will make a big difference
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Speaker 5: for a long time.
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Speaker 3: Now before you go.
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Speaker 2: The welcome to Country debate has continued and got reignited
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Speaker 2: during ANZAC Day, and this is what happened when the
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Speaker 2: topic was brought up on the ABC's flagship Q and
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Speaker 2: A program last night. Greenslead Adam bad had a lot
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Speaker 2: to say.
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Speaker 12: It's just gutter politics from an opposition leader whose campaign
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Speaker 12: is in free form and he's starting to punch down.
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Speaker 12: Peter Dutton was the master of misinformation during the referendum
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Speaker 12: which is what was referred to there, spreading all sorts
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Speaker 12: of lies about what was going He's paying as he's
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Speaker 12: in free for he's punching down change from the Trump
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Speaker 12: pavled and we're.
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Speaker 1: Going to call it out.
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Speaker 2: All the usual lines you would expect from the Greens,
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Speaker 2: just such foolish arguments, straw man arguments, but they can
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Speaker 2: be impactful when it comes to the ABC audience.
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Speaker 11: But all the polling I've seen since ANZAC.
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Speaker 2: Day shows that the great majority of Australians are sick
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Speaker 2: and tired of these ceremonies. They want to see them
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Speaker 2: dramatically reduced or cut all together. In fact, there was
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Speaker 2: a poll I think in news dot com, an online
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Speaker 2: poll showing around seventy percent wanted to see no more
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Speaker 2: of these and around twenty percent wanted to see less.
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Speaker 5: Well, it becomes so divisive, haven't they, And I mean
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Speaker 5: they've sort of been seen to hijack public events. When
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Speaker 5: you look at ANZAC Day, it's about diggers, it's about veterans,
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Speaker 5: and when you have the welcome the country, that might
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Speaker 5: go too long or it really does sort of get
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Speaker 5: in the way of why people aren't gathered. It's become divisive.
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Speaker 5: I mean it was a feel good sentiment and it
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Speaker 5: has a place. I think most Astrains, I might disagree
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Speaker 5: with you. I think most Astrains think it has a place,
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Speaker 5: but that place is not when you land on a
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Speaker 5: Quantus or Virgin flight in denment it has got silver.
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Speaker 3: Well, I disagree with you.
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Speaker 2: I don't think most Australians do think it has a place,
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Speaker 2: because the underlying message of a welcome to country is
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Speaker 2: this isn't your land. You're not as entitled as someone else,
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Speaker 2: based purely on ethnicity, to consider.
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Speaker 3: This your land.
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Speaker 2: Because we don't have non indigenous people doing welcome to countries.
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Speaker 2: It's only one group, and I think that sends a
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Speaker 2: strong message. I think a lot of migrants resent that
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Speaker 2: message as well. Patrick, Carla and thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for your time tonight. A state of emergency has been
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Speaker 2: declared after more than sixty million people across Spain, Portugal
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Speaker 2: and parts of France were left without power last night
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Speaker 2: in one of the largest blackouts in Europe outside of wartime.
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Speaker 2: And this comes as Spain celebrated its first ever weekday
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Speaker 2: of being run at one hundred percent renewables. Less than
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Speaker 2: a week later and Spain is in the midst of
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Speaker 2: a energy crisis. Electric trains of ground to hold flights
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Speaker 2: have been canceled, Traffic lights stop working. We've had people
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Speaker 2: left in lifts, stuck in lifts, and panic buying stripping
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Speaker 2: supermarket shells. As journalist Michael Schllenberger reports, the grid across
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Speaker 2: the entire continent almost redlined at about midday yesterday, with
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Speaker 2: authorities speculating that the outage originated in Spain. Schllenburger explains
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Speaker 2: that Spain's energy mix, which is largely made up of
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Speaker 2: wind and solar, is the most likely cause of the
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Speaker 2: outage because such a system has very little physical inertia
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Speaker 2: generated by coal and nuclear power, meaning it is much
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Speaker 2: less stable and more susceptible to blackouts. Now, while power
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Speaker 2: in France, where the grid is approximately seventy percent nuclear,
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Speaker 2: was quickly restored, it's taking authorities in neighboring Spain and
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Speaker 2: Portugal a lot longer to restore power. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: from France is energy market analysts Sol Cavanik. So tell
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Speaker 2: me about this mass blackout and the impact it's having.
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Speaker 13: Well, as you highlight there's it's still early assessments exactly
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Speaker 13: the primary cause here, although the fragility of the system,
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Speaker 13: particularly at this time and the level of ancillary services,
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Speaker 13: including inertia, do the higher renewables penetration at the time
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Speaker 13: may be one of the primary causes. As I sit here,
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Speaker 13: you know, in one of the countries which has a
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Speaker 13: very strong nuclear industry, which is the fact growing here
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Speaker 13: in France, where things tends to be a little bit better.
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Speaker 13: But I think what we need to take as a
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Speaker 13: lesson here is what we've seen playing out now in
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Speaker 13: Spain could be a sign of what we see it
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Speaker 13: will happen in Australia as we continue down this path
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Speaker 13: of ideology driven policy for energy rather than engineering driven policy,
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Speaker 13: and that for example, has us seeing our Energy Minister
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Speaker 13: Chris Bowen still targeting at eighty three percent renewal mix
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Speaker 13: by twenty thirty and it's harder to determine here what's
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Speaker 13: kind of worse the fastical notion that we can actually
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Speaker 13: achieve the eighty three percent with even the renewable industry
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Speaker 13: itself acknowledging that's quite impossible. All the question of whether
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Speaker 13: we should be desiring this level of renewals gen mix
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Speaker 13: given the instability it's going to cause Rita. But I
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Speaker 13: might just highlight our situation in Australia is fundamentally much
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Speaker 13: more dire than the issue about should we be prioritizing
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Speaker 13: renewables over, for example, fossil fuel based. The problem is
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Speaker 13: we actually need more of both, but instead we've seen
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Speaker 13: declining investment across the board in every single type of
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Speaker 13: generation mix in Australia. Pole is worth aught worse off
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Speaker 13: on the last three years, gas is worse off, and
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Speaker 13: renewables are worse off. Renewable penetration growth drop to record
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Speaker 13: lows last year and that's because the green activism, the
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Speaker 13: green over regulation, and the red tape facing our energy
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Speaker 13: sector hits every single part of our sector. It is
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Speaker 13: hurting investment in everything, including renewables. So instead of having
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Speaker 13: an all of above approach, we have a none of
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Speaker 13: above approach to our energy mix and it's causing energy
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Speaker 13: prices to go up.
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Speaker 2: Now, given the direction we are going in this country
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Speaker 2: and the energy mix we have the focus on net
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Speaker 2: zero emissions and renewables at what does that ultimately mean
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Speaker 2: for our manufacturing sector.
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Speaker 13: As we have increased energy costs and particularly increased energy
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Speaker 13: reliability with now three near misses in as many years,
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Speaker 13: the sector that fears, that feels at first is always
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Speaker 13: going to be a manufacturing sector. And that's because when
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Speaker 13: you have energy shortages events from a political perspective, you're
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Speaker 13: never going to see a government want people's lights to
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Speaker 13: turn off. So what happens is you get load shedding
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Speaker 13: in the manufacturing rse. You've got to remember Australia, we
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Speaker 13: have high safety standards, we have high labor rates, and
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Speaker 13: these are things we are good and we should be
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Speaker 13: proud of. But the reason we can have a manufacturing
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Speaker 13: sector where we pay people well and have high standards
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Speaker 13: is because we have a strong advantage in our energy
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Speaker 13: resource and that energy advantage allows us to still compete
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Speaker 13: internationally even with higher labor costs and standards. And the
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Speaker 13: problem we face now is we are losing our economic
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Speaker 13: competitive advantage of having a strong energy base and a
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Speaker 13: low cost energy salt in this country. And that's eroding
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Speaker 13: our competitive advantage that we've had for forty years, which
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Speaker 13: allows us to have a higher standard of living. And
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Speaker 13: as we're starting to say, government policy more and more
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Speaker 13: prioritize green activism over the livelihoods and jobs of particularly
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Speaker 13: blue collar workers in Australia, they're the ones who are
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Speaker 13: going to get here first. We're ready starting to see
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Speaker 13: jobs being lost. Oceano Glass shut down last year after
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Speaker 13: one hundred and seventy years of op operations. This is
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Speaker 13: the high tech manufacturing we want more of in this country,
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Speaker 13: but instead we're seeing it lost. And higher energy prices
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Speaker 13: and high energy reliability is one of the leading causes
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Speaker 13: of the loss of our manufacturing sector.
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Speaker 2: Now you're in France at the moment, it's a heavy
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Speaker 2: user of nuclear energy. We're told in Australia that nuclear
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Speaker 2: is not commercial, it's not vible. What do Anthony alban
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Speaker 2: Easy and Adam Banded, Chris Bowen, what do they know
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Speaker 2: that the leaders in countries like France, Sweden, US Finland
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Speaker 2: don't know because they and many other First world countries
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Speaker 2: are increasing their use of nuclear power whilst we sit
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Speaker 2: on all this uranium we exported, but we don't use
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Speaker 2: it for cheap nuclear power here or even expensive nuclear
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Speaker 2: power here.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 13: Look, I think it's quite clear that most of the
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Speaker 13: mob in Parliament, in particular our Energy minister and Arguly
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Speaker 13: our Prime Minister at this stage, know very little bit
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Speaker 13: about our energy sector. I think a very good example
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Speaker 13: to look at is what happened in Germany here where
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Speaker 13: you actually had effectively the equivalent of the Green's minority government.
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Speaker 13: They're an actual minister as part of the Greens Party.
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Speaker 13: In the face of the shut off of Russian gas
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Speaker 13: after the Ukraine War, they had a kind of internal
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Speaker 13: schism and decided the Green Party still couldn't bring themselves
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Speaker 13: to actually support nuclear, so they supported more qualified generation.
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Speaker 13: Germany has been shutting down its nuclear facilities, and of
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Speaker 13: course all that's happening is France is building new ones
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Speaker 13: just across the border from Germany and will sell the
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Speaker 13: power into Germany. So Germany's luckiness, since it still gets
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Speaker 13: to rely on nuclear power, just pays France the privilege.
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Speaker 13: In the case of Australia, we don't have the advantage
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Speaker 13: of being able to tap into our neighbor's nuclear power.
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Speaker 13: But if you want to have a strong again blue
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Speaker 13: collar workforce, manufacturing base and all the economic and national
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Speaker 13: security benefits that provides, having strong, stable power supply with
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Speaker 13: very low marginal cost is a critical component of that.
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Speaker 13: We've had it from coal for decades. We're now losing
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Speaker 13: that from coal, in part driven by policy which is
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Speaker 13: making it no longer viable. It cannot be replaced with
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Speaker 13: the newbles anytime in the next decades at least, and
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Speaker 13: nuclear could provide wide avenue for that. And it still
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Speaker 13: surprises me that we rule it out from the get
20:53
Speaker 13: go and don't let it to compete in the market
20:55
Speaker 13: like we do with other energy sources.
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Speaker 2: You go, if you had one bit of advice to
21:02
Speaker 2: impart to Energy Minister Chris Bowen, what would it be.
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Speaker 13: Well, at this point, the best thing that Minister Chris
21:11
Speaker 13: Bowen could do for the energy market is to resign
21:14
Speaker 13: his position, I think, thankfully. If they're going to lose
21:18
Speaker 13: his seat in this election, or even if he stays
21:20
Speaker 13: in this seat, I think Lady is probably going to
21:22
Speaker 13: acces him from this portfolio. We have not seen such
21:26
Speaker 13: an incompetence and higher level of an attitude from an
21:30
Speaker 13: energy minister in decades, and that's a really low bar
21:34
Speaker 13: across both parties. Right, We've seen a level of arrogance,
21:39
Speaker 13: not refusing to engage with his own industry, allowing funding
21:45
Speaker 13: by the government of green activists against approvals of this
21:48
Speaker 13: own government, still adhering to ridiculous things like renewable energy
21:52
Speaker 13: targets and corvenuation targets which everybody knows are impossible to
21:56
Speaker 13: actually achieve, and not having the hub us to not
22:00
Speaker 13: actually even recognize the problems he's created in order to
22:03
Speaker 13: fix them. And you know, I speak to major investors
22:06
Speaker 13: in this sector who've been unable to actually get a
22:09
Speaker 13: meeting with the minister in their sector this entire length
22:13
Speaker 13: of this government. And that tells you everything about what
22:17
Speaker 13: this meant, what Minister Chris Boone actually stands for, and
22:20
Speaker 13: he's willing to actually talk to the key people in
22:23
Speaker 13: this market to try and fix the problems he's created.
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Speaker 3: Soul Kavanick, thank you so much for your time tonight.
22:31
Speaker 3: Thank you still to come.
22:33
Speaker 2: Lefties Losing ad plus for review Donald Trump's first one
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Speaker 2: hundred days in office on.
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Speaker 3: His second term, Kosher Gator joins me.
22:41
Speaker 2: Next, you're watching the Reader Pannies Show, and it's time
22:53
Speaker 2: for lefties losing and and the Democrats, particularly the perpetually
22:57
Speaker 2: outraged Karen's, are again obsessing about the I word impeachment.
23:02
Speaker 2: Is these democracy denying hysterics want to see the duly
23:06
Speaker 2: elected president impeached. Let's hear from this screeching banshee at
23:11
Speaker 2: a town hall imploring Democrat Senator John Osoff to remove
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Speaker 2: the president.
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Speaker 11: Why are there no calls for impeachment? This is unacceptable.
23:21
Speaker 11: I will not live in an authoritative country and novel
23:24
Speaker 11: any of these people.
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Speaker 3: You can do more.
23:27
Speaker 14: I'd like you, and I will vote for you if
23:29
Speaker 14: you are brief and you do what we need.
23:33
Speaker 15: We need him impeached, we need him removed.
23:36
Speaker 3: We need him removed.
23:38
Speaker 2: Sounds a little insurrectiony to me, lady. They want him
23:41
Speaker 2: remove they don't care what for.
23:43
Speaker 3: And listen here.
23:44
Speaker 2: To Senator Osof's response, it keeps the game away here.
23:48
Speaker 2: The Democrats don't care why either. They will try to
23:52
Speaker 2: impeach Donald Trump as soon as they have the numbers.
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Speaker 16: I agree with you, but as I said at the beginning,
23:59
Speaker 16: I also have no choice but to be candid with
24:02
Speaker 16: you about the situation that we face and the tools
24:04
Speaker 16: that are at our disposal. As strongly as I agree
24:08
Speaker 16: with you, ma'am, and I regret if this is an
24:12
Speaker 16: unwelcome response, but my job is to be honest with you.
24:17
Speaker 16: The only way to achieve what you want to achieve
24:19
Speaker 16: is to have a majority in Nited States House of Representatives.
24:22
Speaker 2: Well, the shrill Karen should start celebrating because some Democrats
24:26
Speaker 2: are listening to her. Here is a Democrat you've never
24:29
Speaker 2: heard of before, but he wants to be famous. Meet
24:31
Speaker 2: Congressman Shri Thandada from the Great state of Michigan.
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump has already done real damage to our democracy,
24:41
Speaker 10: but define a unanimous nine h Supreme Court ruling that
24:46
Speaker 10: has to be the final straw.
24:47
Speaker 1: Is time we impeach Donald J. Trump.
24:51
Speaker 10: The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia must be
24:56
Speaker 10: allowed to return and receive due process.
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Speaker 1: Trump he ignored it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he wants to impeach Donald Trump for not bringing
25:04
Speaker 2: back a gang banger, gang banger who was in the
25:07
Speaker 2: country illegally.
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Speaker 3: What a winning issue for the Democrats.
25:11
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure Donald Trump is terrified at this latest
25:16
Speaker 2: sham impeachment plan and just as terrified of this dude.
25:20
Speaker 1: Come about the third issues.
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Speaker 10: People are frustrated, were angry, people are fearful about what's
25:26
Speaker 10: happening with the cuts in Washington, DC, the cadiffs.
25:30
Speaker 2: I'm sure this latest impeachment movie is going to work
25:34
Speaker 2: a treat. They must really be eager for President jd Vance. Guys,
25:40
Speaker 2: just wait three and a half years.
25:42
Speaker 3: And you will get it.
25:43
Speaker 14: Now.
25:44
Speaker 2: Here is something so absurd that you assume it must
25:47
Speaker 2: be a work of satire. It must be.
25:51
Speaker 8: Take a look at this actress playing Anne Frank, and
25:53
Speaker 8: this one and this one and this one. What do
25:56
Speaker 8: all of these actors have in common? They're all wait.
26:00
Speaker 8: Over the years, our world has been getting more and
26:02
Speaker 8: more diverse, but our Holocaust narratives have not been able
26:05
Speaker 8: to keep up.
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Speaker 1: Until now.
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Speaker 8: I've created a new musical called slam Frank that combines
26:11
Speaker 8: hip hop, spoken word, poetry, and mutual diversity so that
26:15
Speaker 8: we can have a version of this story that is
26:17
Speaker 8: prescient and relevant to future generations.
26:21
Speaker 3: What can I say?
26:22
Speaker 11: Sadly, this music will actually exists.
26:25
Speaker 2: It's called slam Frank, a satirical reimagining of Anne Frank's story,
26:31
Speaker 2: and it will be in theaters folks. Fittingly, it will
26:33
Speaker 2: be at the Asylum in New York in June. Talking
26:37
Speaker 2: about asylums, let's check in with this young lass who
26:40
Speaker 2: seems to think that there's no difference between a fetus
26:44
Speaker 2: and assist.
26:46
Speaker 11: She's my favorite idiot of the week.
26:48
Speaker 4: Abortion is anything. If I had a cyst on my
26:52
Speaker 4: uterus that would be considered an abortion.
26:56
Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's not.
26:59
Speaker 4: Yes, it is okay. Anything that is evolving.
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Speaker 16: The uterus, well, no, in order for it to be
27:04
Speaker 16: an abortion, it must be a human life.
27:06
Speaker 6: No, anything that's.
27:08
Speaker 4: A bobby to the uterus, and you have the get
27:09
Speaker 4: rid of it. It is considered abortion.
27:12
Speaker 2: Now President Donald Trump has celebrated the twenty twenty five
27:15
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions of the White House with the Philadelphia
27:19
Speaker 2: Eagles in attendance. The team and the President were in
27:22
Speaker 2: great spirits. This is quite a departure from twenty eighteen,
27:26
Speaker 2: when President Trump canceled the celebration for the Eagles after
27:30
Speaker 2: he was advised that most players were not planning to
27:34
Speaker 2: show up.
27:35
Speaker 3: Well, what a difference seven years makes.
27:37
Speaker 1: Let me just say, fly Eagles fly.
27:40
Speaker 14: Right.
27:44
Speaker 11: The players presented the President with.
27:46
Speaker 2: His own jersey, and they even got a tour of
27:49
Speaker 2: the Oval offers, with the players lining up to shake
27:53
Speaker 2: the President's hand. And Trump was certainly in a good spirit.
27:58
Speaker 2: It was reminiscing about the Super Bowl and even had
28:01
Speaker 2: a little dig at Taylor Swift.
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Speaker 17: It was an incredible game, a little surprising, but right
28:08
Speaker 17: from the beginning. In the first quarter of the Big Game,
28:11
Speaker 17: which I was there, I watched in person, I was
28:14
Speaker 17: there along with Taylor Swift.
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Speaker 1: How did that work out?
28:18
Speaker 17: How did that one work out?
28:20
Speaker 2: I remind you how that worked out. One of them
28:23
Speaker 2: got massive cheers and the other one got booed.
28:26
Speaker 1: Oh it was fun.
28:31
Speaker 3: What good times?
28:41
Speaker 2: Now, there were three players missing from the White House celebrations.
28:45
Speaker 2: They blamed scheduling issues, like they.
28:48
Speaker 3: Have something better to do.
28:50
Speaker 2: One of those players, Yalen Jalen Hurts, had this pitifil
28:54
Speaker 2: response last week when asked whether he was going to
28:57
Speaker 2: be there.
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Speaker 9: Are you putting on visiting the White House next week?
29:03
Speaker 14: So?
29:07
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.
29:09
Speaker 11: Yes, beautifully articulated.
29:11
Speaker 3: They're so eloquent, so brave.
29:13
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, your teammates are their hobnobbing with the.
29:17
Speaker 3: President and they're taking iconic.
29:21
Speaker 2: Selfies with his portrait that looks like Elias Rix there
29:25
Speaker 2: and he declared his love.
29:28
Speaker 3: For Ivanka after the.
29:30
Speaker 2: White House visit, he posted this, He said, after seeing
29:34
Speaker 2: her in person, Ivanka is exactly my type.
29:38
Speaker 3: Good luck there.
29:40
Speaker 2: Now let's bring in Sky News contributer Koja Gata Kosher.
29:43
Speaker 2: We've got some serious things to discuss about the first
29:46
Speaker 2: one hundred days of Donald Trump's second term. But we
29:51
Speaker 2: can't underestimate the importance of the cultural phenomenon. We just
29:56
Speaker 2: saw there the Super Bowl celebrations with the Eagles.
30:00
Speaker 3: It didn't happen in.
30:01
Speaker 2: Trump's first term, that visit was canceled. Very different dynamic
30:06
Speaker 2: now for the president.
30:09
Speaker 9: Very different.
30:09
Speaker 14: It's almost like the arc, the story arc of his
30:12
Speaker 14: cultural comeback alongside his political comeback is almost complete. Because
30:17
Speaker 14: we've talked about everybody from the Silicon Valley Titans to
30:20
Speaker 14: high finance people like Bill Ackman to doctor Phil to
30:24
Speaker 14: the rap.
30:25
Speaker 9: Industry to fifty cent to Bill Maher and now.
30:28
Speaker 14: The super Bowl victors, the very Eagles who weren't very
30:32
Speaker 14: enthusiastic about coming last time, as you said, pop nobbing
30:35
Speaker 14: and rubbing.
30:36
Speaker 15: Shoulders with him.
30:37
Speaker 14: It's just it really just shows that that acceptance and
30:40
Speaker 14: rehabilitation into pop culture, if you.
30:42
Speaker 9: Will, of brand Trump and Trump the person has happened.
30:46
Speaker 14: And people who are still holding out, the few holdouts
30:49
Speaker 14: that those two players that you mentioned and Hollywood and
30:52
Speaker 14: others look rather silly.
30:53
Speaker 15: I would say this moment in time.
30:55
Speaker 2: Now today is one hundred days of Trump's presidency, and
30:58
Speaker 2: it has been a spectat.
31:00
Speaker 11: Kill a ride.
31:00
Speaker 2: No matter how you look at it, whether you're anti
31:03
Speaker 2: all things trample America. First, his presidency has been remarkable.
31:10
Speaker 2: He's set a furious pace and among his greatest achievements
31:14
Speaker 2: is addressing and solving the border crisis.
31:19
Speaker 11: The illegal immigration crisis. Kosher is over.
31:24
Speaker 9: It really is.
31:25
Speaker 14: It was something like at his peak, underbid on eleven
31:27
Speaker 14: thousand illegal crossings per day and it's now down to
31:31
Speaker 14: somewhere between two hundred and three hundred. That's virtually zero,
31:34
Speaker 14: and in just one hundred days. It really is remarkable.
31:37
Speaker 9: It shows that the missing ingredient.
31:41
Speaker 14: Was enforcement and the political will to do enforcement, not
31:45
Speaker 14: new books, laws on the books, not comprehensive immigration reform,
31:49
Speaker 14: which is the thing that that was pointing to.
31:51
Speaker 15: Just enforcement. That said, I think the wall.
31:54
Speaker 14: While he's shown that it's not necessary to have the wall,
31:57
Speaker 14: that is something that his base really want because it
32:00
Speaker 14: has permanence, because all these things that he's doing now
32:02
Speaker 14: around enforcement can be undone if somebody from the other
32:05
Speaker 14: side gets back in. That is more for doing what
32:08
Speaker 14: Biden did and reopening floodgates again.
32:12
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the media is making the wall a big
32:16
Speaker 2: issue despite the fact that their legal immigration crisis is over.
32:21
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about the wall and Who's
32:24
Speaker 2: going to pay for it? This is something the borders
32:27
Speaker 2: are Tom Homan addressed overnight.
32:30
Speaker 18: Trump said in Mexico and pay for the wall, they
32:32
Speaker 18: have been a roundabout way have been that putting ten
32:35
Speaker 18: thousand military in the northern and southern border, taking the
32:37
Speaker 18: action they did remain in Mexico.
32:39
Speaker 1: They did not do that.
32:40
Speaker 18: They're doing it, putting military on the southern boarder, have
32:42
Speaker 18: moved all immigration to a record law. We're saving millions
32:46
Speaker 18: of dollars every day on detention, transportation, removal proceedings. We've
32:52
Speaker 18: more than made up for the.
32:53
Speaker 11: Costs that wall kosher even without the wall.
32:56
Speaker 2: The border crisis is over, and it's because clear that
33:01
Speaker 2: the part and administration could have stopped or at least
33:04
Speaker 2: reduced this issue. The flood of illegals coming in more
33:08
Speaker 2: than two million a year under Biden, it seems like
33:11
Speaker 2: it was a choice not to address the crisis.
33:15
Speaker 14: It's pretty undeniable because everybody can see the numbers. And
33:19
Speaker 14: that is really the conclusion that the American people are drawing,
33:22
Speaker 14: which is that they did not want to stop the
33:24
Speaker 14: crisis for whatever the reason is that you know, pouring
33:27
Speaker 14: genographics in and whatever that does to the vote bank
33:30
Speaker 14: and every other issue dependent how nefarious you want to
33:33
Speaker 14: think their motives were. It was a choice because he's
33:36
Speaker 14: proving how quickly and this has happened, and it's the
33:38
Speaker 14: lowest it's been under any administration going all the way
33:42
Speaker 14: back to Bush and before, so that really really is remarkable.
33:45
Speaker 14: The wall, as I was mentioning, still has value, and
33:47
Speaker 14: that's why his base does hope that he'll go through
33:49
Speaker 14: with it. But the media nitpicking about who's paying for
33:52
Speaker 14: it and all that. They're going back to what they
33:54
Speaker 14: do on other issues that they have lost on so
33:57
Speaker 14: dramatically in the political arena. They just go to my
34:00
Speaker 14: nusha and getting into these granular arguments about little issues
34:04
Speaker 14: because they've lost on the big issue and everybody can
34:06
Speaker 14: see it now.
34:09
Speaker 2: Having death, having dealt with illegal immigration, the administration is
34:15
Speaker 2: focused on deporting the millions or in the country illegally,
34:19
Speaker 2: and they're now posters of violent illegal immigrants who have
34:24
Speaker 2: been arrested right outside the press. Tense Kosher, this is
34:28
Speaker 2: on the White House lawn. It's sending quite a message
34:32
Speaker 2: to the media, Kosher, because they are preoccupied with the
34:36
Speaker 2: so called Maryland Dad, the gangbanger, and they are ignoring
34:40
Speaker 2: the fact that violent criminals, killers, rapists are being arrested
34:47
Speaker 2: and deported.
34:49
Speaker 14: This is classic Trump, because the man understands media unlike
34:53
Speaker 14: anybody else. And now those posters, as you say, are
34:55
Speaker 14: going to be in the backdrop of every hit that
34:57
Speaker 14: they do unless they try to reposition their cameras.
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Speaker 15: So that's really funny.
35:01
Speaker 14: And the reason why is because he again has won
35:04
Speaker 14: on the issue politically, He's one with the public, and
35:06
Speaker 14: he's forcing them into a corner where they end up
35:09
Speaker 14: having to keep defending people like who you see on
35:12
Speaker 14: those posters. It look like, you know, blug shotting criminals
35:16
Speaker 14: of tattoos on their faces, Maryland Dad, the sweet.
35:19
Speaker 15: Student Khalil, all these people.
35:21
Speaker 14: They're backing into defending the most indefensible people out of
35:25
Speaker 14: the bunch of illegals. And this is just a strike
35:27
Speaker 14: reminder every time they go to air. So it's going
35:29
Speaker 14: to be really funny if those posters stay up.
35:33
Speaker 2: And despite all the relentlessly negative media about the deportation program,
35:39
Speaker 2: the polling shows that the majority of Americans are still
35:43
Speaker 2: in favor of deporting all illegal immigrants, not just those
35:47
Speaker 2: with criminal convictions, And I think that is a significant
35:50
Speaker 2: point to note now the major battle right now for
35:54
Speaker 2: the president is the trade wall, particularly with China.
35:58
Speaker 3: This is a long.
35:59
Speaker 2: Term strategy, kosher, but it involves a fair bit of
36:04
Speaker 2: short term pain. You're in the US right now. Tell
36:08
Speaker 2: me how the administration's handling.
36:11
Speaker 3: This difficult issue.
36:13
Speaker 2: How do you sell a policy that's all about the
36:17
Speaker 2: long term interests of the country when you're going to
36:20
Speaker 2: suffer a little bit of short term discomfort.
36:24
Speaker 14: You know, it's not easy, and he is paying a
36:27
Speaker 14: little bit of a price for it, including in his
36:29
Speaker 14: own base somewhat, but by and large they still are
36:33
Speaker 14: trusting him and sticking with him, just because the alternative,
36:36
Speaker 14: which is the status quo, has not worked for the
36:38
Speaker 14: last half century. So that's something that he can use
36:41
Speaker 14: to his advantage that even if there's a bit of
36:43
Speaker 14: fear of the unknown over here, and the short term
36:46
Speaker 14: pain is something that's a tough pill to swallow, it's
36:49
Speaker 14: better than the alternative.
36:51
Speaker 15: He remains more popular than the opposition. He's sort of he's.
36:54
Speaker 9: Coming to the end of his honeymoon period, but he's
36:56
Speaker 9: still in it.
36:57
Speaker 15: So this is the.
36:58
Speaker 14: Time to strike while the iron's hot, while he's at
37:00
Speaker 14: his peak in terms of acceptance. He's got the majority
37:04
Speaker 14: in the legislative branch, and he's got a lot.
37:06
Speaker 15: Of support for it.
37:07
Speaker 14: So that's why he's sticking to his broad principles while
37:10
Speaker 14: being flexible on the specifics, and you're seeing some course
37:14
Speaker 14: correction or carbouds.
37:15
Speaker 15: For certain sectors or countries or ab testing.
37:19
Speaker 14: He does get criticism for that where people say, well, look,
37:21
Speaker 14: there's no coherent strategy, but many would say that that's
37:24
Speaker 14: actually part of his strategy. Stick to the fundamentals and
37:27
Speaker 14: then be willing to course correct on the specifics as
37:30
Speaker 14: you work through your strategy.
37:33
Speaker 2: Now you're in DC right now, Democrats stronghold. But let's
37:37
Speaker 2: talk about another Democrat stronghold, California and the bluest of
37:41
Speaker 2: blue city San Francisco. So much of the crazy far
37:46
Speaker 2: left ideology we see in public policy starts in California,
37:51
Speaker 2: and this latest scheme is one that is certainly raising eyebrows.
37:55
Speaker 2: They are bringing the concept of equity to speed cameras.
38:00
Speaker 2: So if you're a high income owner and you speed,
38:03
Speaker 2: you'll pay a lot more than someone on a lower income.
38:07
Speaker 2: If you're in a lower income you get a fifty
38:10
Speaker 2: percent discount kosher, and if you speed in your car,
38:14
Speaker 2: but are homeless, Well, you qualify for an eighty percent discount.
38:20
Speaker 2: Gavin Nuism is backing this plan. The California governor is
38:24
Speaker 2: a fan Kosher. What do you think about this equity
38:28
Speaker 2: in traffic fights?
38:30
Speaker 14: It is so California because they just love progressive payment
38:35
Speaker 14: curves on everything from taxes to utility bills and now
38:38
Speaker 14: even speeding tickets. Everything's about income equality and you have
38:41
Speaker 14: to have this progressive curve. But why it's even more
38:44
Speaker 14: ridiculous here because it actually that position just doesn't make
38:47
Speaker 14: sense economically.
38:48
Speaker 15: It's actually immoral, many would say.
38:50
Speaker 14: But here it's even worse because speeding is about keeping
38:53
Speaker 14: road safe, and there's an externality component to it because
38:56
Speaker 14: if you have unsafe drivers that speed and do other
38:59
Speaker 14: things that are in violation of traffic laws, they're putting
39:02
Speaker 14: other people at risk on the roads on top of themselves.
39:05
Speaker 14: And so that's why the whole idea of speaking tickets
39:08
Speaker 14: is it's a mechanism to not have that or to
39:10
Speaker 14: minimize that. And then if you start segregating it, then
39:13
Speaker 14: we're basically saying the lower income people are creating greater
39:16
Speaker 14: risk on the roads for hurting somebody else and the
39:18
Speaker 14: whole thing makes no sense.
39:22
Speaker 2: And I can see this spreading throughout California, and some
39:26
Speaker 2: of our lawmakers here in Australia, I think, will be
39:29
Speaker 2: looking on with interest, and I nominate Victoria as the
39:33
Speaker 2: first state where this sort of proposal would be considered.
39:36
Speaker 3: Kosher gay that thank you so much of your time
39:38
Speaker 3: tonight still to come.
39:40
Speaker 2: The male athlete playing netball in eight women's competition, Stephanie
39:45
Speaker 2: Bastian has the Beta welcome back joining me now is
39:56
Speaker 2: the head of advocacy at Women's Forum Australia.
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Speaker 3: Ste Stephanie.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with this extraordinary story of a non binary
40:05
Speaker 2: netball player called David Capron, who goes by he him
40:10
Speaker 2: and they then pronouns. The Herald Sun reports he has
40:13
Speaker 2: been playing in women's netball leagues for the past two seasons.
40:18
Speaker 2: A women's netball coach whose team has played against Capron
40:21
Speaker 2: has said that allowing him to compete against biological women
40:25
Speaker 2: was ridiculous and a joke, and I quote so many
40:29
Speaker 2: clubs were fuming because he was taking the piss and
40:34
Speaker 2: the complaints have been made and a player who said
40:38
Speaker 2: Capron trialed at her club said many women felt threatened
40:43
Speaker 2: and upset that their spot would be taken by someone
40:46
Speaker 2: who had played at a very high level in a
40:50
Speaker 2: men's league. But Capron, a National Men's Championship player, has
40:55
Speaker 2: told their old son he wanted to be a beacon
40:58
Speaker 2: of hope for young queer kure so have little to
41:01
Speaker 2: no representation in community.
41:03
Speaker 3: Sport, steph.
41:05
Speaker 2: What has been their reaction from netball authorities? Surely their
41:09
Speaker 2: first priority is to protect female players and ensure fairness.
41:18
Speaker 19: Look, first of all, can I just say how encouraging
41:21
Speaker 19: and wonderful it is that these female players and the
41:23
Speaker 19: coach are speaking out and pushing back. Netball Australia's response
41:27
Speaker 19: has been mediocre at best. They came out supporting the
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Speaker 19: inclusion of trans players and said that if there are
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Speaker 19: concerns they'll look to address them. But I think Mark
41:37
Speaker 19: Butler needs to be held accountable too, because two months
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Speaker 19: ago today he said that the women's sex based rights
41:45
Speaker 19: for sport were protected under the Sex Discrimination Act, that
41:48
Speaker 19: there were provisions in the SDA and that this wasn't
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Speaker 19: an issue. Now we have a man who's playing in
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Speaker 19: a female sport who's also playing as an inn and
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Speaker 19: a male category as well. It's an absolute job now.
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Speaker 19: The SDA needs reforming because there is a lack of clarity.
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Speaker 19: The rules are murky, It absolutely is murky, and Butler
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Speaker 19: has been completely.
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Speaker 2: Dismissive of this as an issue in Australia. He seems
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Speaker 2: to think it's just something that happens overseas and the
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Speaker 2: US and the UK and they're no local examples when
42:26
Speaker 2: week after week, Sephany we seem to highlight local examples
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Speaker 2: and the women who speak out are often attacked or
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Speaker 2: just ignored.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, they face serious legal repercussions if they speak out,
42:43
Speaker 19: they can be sued and dragged caught. But I think
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Speaker 19: the clubs are often in a similar position as well,
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Speaker 19: where they're afraid that if they do push back, or
42:52
Speaker 19: they're afraid of litigation because under the STA they're not protected.
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Speaker 19: There needs to be greater clarity and if you read
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Speaker 19: the SDA revisions in conjunction with the austral Human Rights
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Speaker 19: Commissioned Sporting Guidelines, it's just it's a legal mindfield that
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Speaker 19: needs to be cleared up by Parliament now.
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Speaker 2: As we're reported last night, the women will speak rally
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne on the weekend, organized by Women's Voices Australia
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Speaker 2: descended into chaos after was disrupted by pro trans protesters.
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Speaker 2: There was a counter protest which quickly became violent.
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Speaker 20: Street fights break out in the city. Fists fly as
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Speaker 20: transgender rights protesters and opponents scuffle in skirmishes, Capsicum spray
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Speaker 20: used to disperse crowds, police storming in to arrest two people.
43:45
Speaker 20: Across four hours of mayhem, this protester unmasked on Swanston Street.
43:53
Speaker 20: Others obstructing roads and blocking trams as they marched through
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Speaker 20: the city. Our of cat and mouse with police through
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Speaker 20: the CBD steph.
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Speaker 2: There was four hours of mayhem in the Melbourne CBD,
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Speaker 2: only a couple of arrests and women again were intimidated
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Speaker 2: for just holding a peaceful protest.
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Speaker 19: It's extraordinary. I mean, look at the heavy police presence
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Speaker 19: to protect these women speaking out. We are constantly told
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Speaker 19: that these transwrts activists are marginalized, they're victims, but for
44:29
Speaker 19: such a well supported, well funded lobby group, they're extremely violent.
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Speaker 19: They're absolute bullies. There were shop owners closing their stores
44:37
Speaker 19: to protect their customers and their merchandise from the rabble
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Speaker 19: running through the street.
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Speaker 3: And once again there's been.
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Speaker 19: A lack of political leadership in calling out and condemning
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Speaker 19: their behavior. This behavior will not stop until it is
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Speaker 19: condemned in the media and by a political leaders across
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Speaker 19: the board.
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Speaker 2: And we've seen this behavior over and over again. Obviously,
44:58
Speaker 2: the more demail incident is the one that we have
45:02
Speaker 2: spoken about repeatedly, the fact that she was attacked, despite
45:08
Speaker 2: the fact that she was a victim of this phenomenon
45:13
Speaker 2: where women try to hold a rally to talk about
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Speaker 2: their rights and these counter protests to show up. They're violent,
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Speaker 2: they're feral, more deeming was physically assaulted, she was verbally assaulted,
45:26
Speaker 2: and then her own party leader attacked her. Have we
45:30
Speaker 2: come some distance from that that was a couple of
45:33
Speaker 2: years ago, Stephanie. Is there a little bit more sanity
45:37
Speaker 2: when we see these sort of scenes and some of
45:41
Speaker 2: the media reporting seems to be a little bit more
45:43
Speaker 2: balanced now compared to a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, the conversation has definitely changed, and that is a
45:52
Speaker 19: silver lining in this whole scenario. I couldn't find any
45:55
Speaker 19: fault with the reporting. It was very the way that
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Speaker 19: it was discribed women's rights rallies, trans rights activists. It
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Speaker 19: was all very accurate and I think that, you know,
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Speaker 19: the new leader, Brad Batton, has been very supportive of Moira,
46:11
Speaker 19: which is very encouraging. So yes, I think the conversation
46:14
Speaker 19: is shifting, and I think the police also should be
46:18
Speaker 19: commended for their wonderful role in protecting women. The dial
46:22
Speaker 19: is moving that these society's attitudes are changing and shifting,
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Speaker 19: which I think is really positive, and it's helped by
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Speaker 19: decisions in the UK and Trump's executive orders, and hopefully
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Speaker 19: we see more of this to come.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Talking about the UK, actor Pedro Pascal has attacked author JK.
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Speaker 2: Rowling on x following the UK Supreme Court's historic ruling
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Speaker 2: confirming that a woman is indeed an adult female. Pascal
46:52
Speaker 2: was responding to a comment from an activist urging people
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Speaker 2: to boycott JK. Rolling's works. This is what he said
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Speaker 2: about the best selling author and women's rights champion. And
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Speaker 2: excuse me for the language here he said, awful, disgusting
47:08
Speaker 2: shit is exactly right. Heinous loser behavior, Steph. This is
47:14
Speaker 2: just such a hideous attack against a woman who should
47:19
Speaker 2: be a hero to the left. She is off the
47:21
Speaker 2: left politically other than on this issue. She is very
47:25
Speaker 2: so called progressive and yet this is how she is
47:29
Speaker 2: smeared for merely standing up for women's rights and being
47:33
Speaker 2: on the right side of history.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, he comes across as another entitled male celebrity telling
47:42
Speaker 19: woman what they can and can't think. I mean, we
47:44
Speaker 19: hear words like misogyny and the patriarchy thrown around, and
47:47
Speaker 19: I don't buy into those terms too often, but I
47:49
Speaker 19: see it a lot in this movement, and it's just
47:51
Speaker 19: not acceptable. It should be called out and condemned by
47:54
Speaker 19: the media industry.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastien, thank you so much for your time tonight,
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Speaker 2: and that's all the time we have tonight.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Up next, it's Newsnight.