Latest / AST SpaceMobile Podcast / Kook's Weekly - August 18
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- 0:06Welcome to AFT Space Mobile podcast.
- 0:09Thanks for joining. Sorry for the ad hoc timing.
- 0:14I'm on vacation and so that gets in the way of some time zone.
- 0:17So I do have some sympathy for the East Coast people now that I
- 0:20realize that my normal time is so late.
- 0:22But then the other issue I had is the hotel I'm in doesn't have
- 0:26a business center to my surprise.
- 0:28And so I was trying to find a place to do the podcast cuz I
- 0:33don't think my wife was thrilled about me doing this while my
- 0:35children are trying to sleep. So she had the genius idea of
- 0:37for me just to go sit in my rental car, which is where I am
- 0:42right now. So I'm trying to figure out how
- 0:45to get my hotspot to work so that I can actually see the
- 0:49weekly and looks like I'm in business.
- 0:51So anyway, so everyone has the visual.
- 0:53I'm sitting in a Volvo in a cold parking lot right now while my
- 0:57family is watching Amazon Prime. But that's my dedication to the
- 1:02mob. Because you know what happens
- 1:03when you go against the mob? You die.
- 1:05And I know that. I know Corey will come after me.
- 1:08I know he'll catch me off to sleep with one eye the rest of
- 1:10my life. So there will be a weekly.
- 1:12So let's start off with what happened last week just so that
- 1:16no one comes after me for violating mob rules.
- 1:19The first thing is we obviously had an earnings call and we
- 1:21won't rehash that because I know that there were the calls for
- 1:24calls and Pan Am beat me to it because he's a competitive MFR
- 1:28and he gave a very serious call, which just let me then be the
- 1:32clown that I am because I knew he actually covered the real
- 1:35business. But I just want to bring
- 1:36everyone's attention again to what I thought was the real
- 1:39standout of the call, which is really more visibility on the
- 1:44production and the launch schedule or really dare I say
- 1:47launch, ha, ha. Would that be a funny concept,
- 1:49the ready to ship schedule, which is a smarter way of
- 1:53disclosing it in my view, because ready to ship is
- 1:56something that is it really in the control of AST whereas
- 2:00launching as we find out it have many steps in the kitchen and
- 2:04what we really care about, we obviously care about launching,
- 2:07but what we also what we really care about as investors is AST's
- 2:11ability to control its destiny and ramp its operating
- 2:15execution. That's ultimately what matters
- 2:17because the launch will come the some of these slots shift around
- 2:20and it's annoying, but ultimately we had to prove out
- 2:23the technology, we had to finance the company and we had
- 2:27to clear all the regulatory hurdles which were in the
- 2:30process of doing. You have to prove out a
- 2:32commercial model and commercial partnerships and then you
- 2:35ultimately have to deliver and, and build this stuff at scale,
- 2:38not build 1, not build 5, build 50 to 60 at A at a minimum.
- 2:44But obviously if you get to 50 or 60, you're going to build a
- 2:47couple 100. And so this schedule is very
- 2:50interesting because it shows where they are in terms of the
- 2:56microns completed. Let me just turn my car on real
- 2:59quick, open my windows, because I'm realizing how to keep that
- 3:04given the spaces. It'd be a noble end to a noble
- 3:07life. But now I've got the window
- 3:08open. So we've got the schedule for
- 3:11microns for phased arrays completed.
- 3:14Doesn't say satellites completed.
- 3:16You know, the bears picked up on that.
- 3:18But it's really showing some of the big critical path items,
- 3:20which are the microns. And it's a good unit of measure,
- 3:22and it shows that we're already good through launch #4 now we
- 3:26think that launch one is ISRO, launch two I think is New Glenn,
- 3:32but could be SpaceX. And these things could actually
- 3:34didn't be flipped around as well.
- 3:37That we've been debating this all day.
- 3:39There's a working group we have and thinking about whether it's
- 3:42SpaceX, ISRO, or if we're on New Glenn 2 because the Escapade
- 3:47cargo isn't ready, which means that they can have some room for
- 3:49us. But then launch three and launch
- 3:51#4 are almost certainly Falcon Nines, which are going to take
- 3:553. And so that means they already
- 3:56have 8 units ready to go, 8 satellites ready to go or
- 4:01visibility ready to go. And it sets up for a really
- 4:04interesting year because in my view, the first two launches are
- 4:07going to be kind of sloppy in terms of the timing as we're all
- 4:10finding out. And that other than just kind of
- 4:13space mob neurotics, which I'm a key offender and said crime,
- 4:18what ultimately really is going to matter for real investors is
- 4:22launch three and four. Because once we're showing that
- 4:26we're putting up 3 plus birds at a clip, which really means that
- 4:30we're producing at that rate. Then the risk in the market of
- 4:34us not hitting our business plan is going to go basically to 0 is
- 4:38if you're starting to get ready for six satellites getting ready
- 4:42to ship in November, then you know that the whole
- 4:44constellation will come together.
- 4:46The money's already there, things are good.
- 4:47So that first slide is very important and it really sets the
- 4:50tone for this being a very de risked investment by year end.
- 4:54It's already a very de risked investment.
- 4:55But really on that path to dramatic revenue rail, it's a
- 4:59very exciting. For anyone that missed the other
- 5:01details of the earnings calls or the calls about earnings calls,
- 5:04I have those all linked out. A lot of great work was done.
- 5:08I won't recap it all because we already did our earnings call.
- 5:11Earnings call call that is, but now let's skip to what I'll call
- 5:15reform traders Maxim. So for those of you who don't
- 5:17know, reform trader is a is a friend of mine in terms of
- 5:22Internet pen pal, but he's he's a very good trader, which I'm
- 5:27not, and has reformed himself to actually become AST investor.
- 5:32That shows we can really change the stripes on any tiger.
- 5:35But it's interesting is like from his mentality and one
- 5:37reason I really like to talk to him and read his stuff is he's
- 5:41coming out this from a very different perspective than than
- 5:44I do. And to him, and I really think
- 5:47he's right, Is that with the company for the first time
- 5:50really implying that they're done with the ATM, which I
- 5:54wouldn't have otherwise come to that conclusion.
- 5:57But they did not drop an ATM announcement on their earnings
- 6:00call. And they were very clear about
- 6:02feeling good about how much cash you had on the balance sheet.
- 6:04And they're very clear that they expected the next money to be
- 6:07coming from government and commercial opportunities that
- 6:11when you look at reforms analysis, it shows just how the
- 6:15stock will kind of trade sloppy after ATM filings and then notes
- 6:18offerings and then RIP. And we have this pattern and
- 6:21we're right now at the through of what is usually the post
- 6:25offering pattern, which I think some people call this a bull
- 6:27flag and we're we're right there.
- 6:29And so these TA guys are really glomming on to this start
- 6:33dynamic we have. But when you overlay the
- 6:35fundamentals as reformed trader did, you can see why these guys
- 6:40are really lining up for the kill to the upside, to be clear.
- 6:44And that's good to know. I'm obviously a long term
- 6:47investor, but I do deeply care about the short term.
- 6:50And I'm, I'm very excited about what could be really our actual
- 6:53pre launch rally as we're now toward the middle coming to the
- 6:58end of August. And we know that we're going to
- 7:00have a ready to ship on FM one pretty soon.
- 7:03And I think the market will be really relieved when that
- 7:05happens. And so when we look for external
- 7:08confirmation of these things, it's worth noting in this next
- 7:11week where I titled it, AT&T confirms it's quick, AT&T
- 7:16confirms it's evolving quickly. Here's a quote, we will be
- 7:20making announcements in the near future on timing and what those
- 7:23services look like. And quote, he shared quote, it
- 7:27is going to evolve quickly in support of more and more
- 7:30services. Now AT&T is saying something
- 7:32that really mirrors what a Bell said on the call.
- 7:36One, is it the jump from continuous service, from
- 7:39intermittent service is fast, That's interesting, but also
- 7:43just the timing of the intermittent service which is
- 7:46coming. This also pairs nicely with the
- 7:48rumor I heard that AT&T is going to be launching a really big
- 7:51media blitz in the fall, which is really around the corner,
- 7:54which would also tie into really the defining of space mobile as
- 7:59a differentiator into the Black Friday selling season when
- 8:04people are upgrading their phones.
- 8:05Like what is that selling message?
- 8:07It's going to get people to go into a Best Buy, go to an AT&T
- 8:10store, go to an Apple store to be excited about their phone,
- 8:14but also, more importantly, from AT&T's perspective, their
- 8:17carrier. And so it really does seem like
- 8:19things are lining up. Another form of confirmation we
- 8:23have is the deployment of the gateways.
- 8:30Just looking at the comments that I see, Corey posted some
- 8:33ridiculous picture of a guy inside the Best Western.
- 8:36God help us. And so this rapid ordering of
- 8:41these QV ground gateways, as Scott has said over and over
- 8:45again is really the leading indicator of where the puck is
- 8:49going to hit the net. So scanner is always really
- 8:53incredible at being on top of details.
- 8:55Found this really great. What was in an order so said
- 8:59report just quoting that AST had ordered $20 million worth of
- 9:03gateways and then those get sold onward by ASTS to the Amanos for
- 9:09systems integration which is a source of revenue bookings as of
- 9:13this quarter, which will soon be converted into revenue realized
- 9:18down the PNL in the quarters to come.
- 9:20So this Q3 and Q4, so most importantly, just showing that
- 9:25people are really getting their act together to put the
- 9:27infrastructure in place for the service to go live.
- 9:30This is why I say, I say a lot of things.
- 9:32I try to be somewhat serious in the important things.
- 9:34But when I when you guys see me tweeting in general, you should
- 9:39move on into life. But when you see me tweeting,
- 9:40you dig a little bit deeper and you see me saying things are
- 9:43inevitable. It's really how I feel, this
- 9:45sense of an inevitability of whatever Marvel thing that was
- 9:51the, I don't know, when the guy snaps his finger and the whole
- 9:54world blows up, you know, it's inevitable.
- 9:57The AST inevitability I think is going to be a really important
- 10:01concept. And so wherever the stock is
- 10:03going, let's say 100 or something, I think we could be
- 10:05pleasantly surprised. There could be this big unlock,
- 10:09which is another concept they talked about frankly in what
- 10:12seemed like in vain what was now years ago.
- 10:18But I would always say that there's going to be these
- 10:20valuation unlocks. And it was very hard along the
- 10:23way. And I took a lot of heat and
- 10:25public coloring for always looking for unlocks that were
- 10:29evasive. But the unlocks that we're about
- 10:31to hit, I think are definitive. And so F1 FM one, FM 2 out the
- 10:37door, which, which, whatever, get those things out of here.
- 10:40They've caused me a lot of brain damage.
- 10:41But really getting toward the FM 3 to FM 8, which are the first
- 10:45kind of bulk shipments. That's when this is past the
- 10:49point of inevitability because I think we're already inevitable.
- 10:52And then these ground stations locked in the first revenues.
- 10:56These are the things when the market I think is going to blow
- 10:58past any sort of near term, near term detail mucking, just like
- 11:04what we do all day. As Kevin Mack says, you know,
- 11:07figuring out if there's been a punctuation change in an FCC
- 11:10filing, which is in fact exactly what we do.
- 11:12We're going to get run over by just a wall of money when the
- 11:16inevitability is accepted by the market.
- 11:18And I think there will be these lists when when analysts lead
- 11:22the shape of Lord guy, who will put out these lists of like, oh,
- 11:25hey, you're the monopolies in the world.
- 11:26Asmli think next year it's going to become a fair complete that
- 11:30ASTS is one of those monopolies. And that's the title of my DD
- 11:35report that I put out. I want to call it a report my DD
- 11:37notes that I put out last year where I said this is the next
- 11:40telecom monopoly and I I really believe it.
- 11:42And so then we have things that can be coming actually pretty
- 11:45soon. And so under the tweet that's
- 11:46titled Whoop, there it is, which dates me, but it's a great sign.
- 11:51You have Google, and people have noted that ASDS is Google's
- 11:54single largest public shareholding, which I believe to
- 11:56be true. I didn't check it independently,
- 11:58but you have Katzie figuring out that the Google Pixel is going
- 12:01to support the Legato L bands. Now, is that a surprise?
- 12:04No it shouldn't be because in the Legato docs themselves
- 12:08there's a specific revenue share trigger based on Google
- 12:11incorporating Legato L bands. We had this side letter in this
- 12:15partnership with Google and everyone scratch their heads.
- 12:18Well why do they have to have a partnership with Google if this
- 12:20works with any device? Well, the answer is to make it
- 12:22really work with any device, but also make it a more flexible
- 12:26pronoun because ASTS is pronouns are low band, mid band, L band.
- 12:32It identifies in lots of different bands.
- 12:35It in fact identifies in some bands that phones don't yet
- 12:37recognize. That's how progressive ASTS is.
- 12:40And so with Google starting to integrate these other spectrum
- 12:44bands, it's going to differentiate Google's product,
- 12:46which is very important to Google, but it also lights up
- 12:49the value of our spectrum. Oops, there it is.
- 12:51We're ready to go setting stuff. Now some of you might be asking
- 12:55what about Apple? And I throw back the same
- 12:56question to you, what about Apple?
- 12:58I think it's inevitable. Now.
- 13:00Is Apple going to become a shareholder in ASTSI don't know.
- 13:03I really hope so. Oh my God, could you imagine the
- 13:06white flash at 3:00 in the morning?
- 13:09That will be that Apple. A bomb to hit the shorts.
- 13:12I can only think of a moment. So beautiful to see the final
- 13:15end of the shorts. But what almost definitively
- 13:18will happen is Apple will incorporate the L band into
- 13:22their phones at the request of AT&T and Verizon.
- 13:26That I'm willing to bet a kidney on and, and really not feel like
- 13:31I'm taking a lot of kidney risk. So back to the concept of
- 13:35inevitability. The long onlys are responding as
- 13:38we would expect them to respond. And so as at Melnick 45, boss
- 13:43man 45, I don't know why the difference between the apps and
- 13:46the and the handle. I was so silly that I'm just at
- 13:49the kook report and then my handle is the kook report.
- 13:51Maybe I missed something when I was creating my online identity,
- 13:55but Boss Man 45 is adopting some terminology that you might have
- 14:00heard from me before of the terminal share count might not
- 14:02be far off. And what he, which is of course
- 14:05the point where the dilution really goes to a very modest
- 14:09amount really through shareholder grants or share
- 14:12grants to employees and things like that as opposed to massive
- 14:16capital raises. That's the concept of the
- 14:18terminal Share Account. My bogey for those playing at
- 14:20home has been 400 million shares.
- 14:22We're at like 383 on my account for fully diluted right now.
- 14:26So, you know, that's almost a billion dollars of extra capital
- 14:31that could come in through the equity before you'd hit my
- 14:35terminal Share Account assumption.
- 14:37But he's picking the point that the setup is incredible because
- 14:40right as we're really close to the terminal Share Account,
- 14:43which is really the end of the, you know, quote UN quote
- 14:45dilution buggy man, and you have Wall Street continuing to really
- 14:49gobble up the shares. The setup is great.
- 14:51And when I just look at this holders list too, I see the
- 14:55Vanguard is taking the proper stake, but I'm seeing guys like
- 14:57Fidelity that have like another 10% of the company to go.
- 15:00So as we prove out the operating execution, I really don't think
- 15:05long ollies are going to get to care about the price because you
- 15:08you really have to. And this is something I hope to
- 15:11get better at in my life, is you really just have to identify the
- 15:14big secular trends. And then you have to went figure
- 15:17out who the market share winners are going to be.
- 15:20And then you need to put some blackout goggles on so that you
- 15:23don't confuse anything and just buy.
- 15:26That's how the wrong barons make money.
- 15:29That's how the entrepreneurs make money.
- 15:32And that's why I think as the inevitability becomes more
- 15:34recognized that this is the next, but this is the global
- 15:37telecom monopoly, I think that you're going to have that long
- 15:40only share count, which is already really going in the
- 15:43right direction, is going to go higher in a big way.
- 15:46And that's going to reduce volatility to shares, create
- 15:48higher floors and really just soak up the float.
- 15:52So it's very exciting. So when we want to put the
- 15:56exciting thing in context, we have Reg room showing us a
- 15:59really incredible graphic of just what's happening here.
- 16:03And So what does a block to satellite look like on an NBA
- 16:08court? It looks like the refs would be
- 16:10really upset because you would definitely be stopping play of
- 16:13the game. These are big.
- 16:14They take up the whole court. And so this is one of the key
- 16:19innovations of this company is flying by far the largest fate
- 16:23commercial phased array satellites ever built.
- 16:26That allows for a lot of interesting technological
- 16:29innovation, such as a lot of antenna which creates a lot of
- 16:33waves in wave forms, which themselves create very directed
- 16:38and powerful beams which create magic.
- 16:41And so the next slide is why size matters.
- 16:43And again, the simple answer is more waves, more powerful waves
- 16:47and those waves create directed beams.
- 16:49It's all about resonance and on resonance to do what you want
- 16:53with the beam. And that's where we have this
- 16:55nice tweet by Inner AL 51. We're just showing again, the
- 17:00scale difference between what ASTS is doing, what Starlink is
- 17:03doing, and then importantly, it works.
- 17:06So I don't know why all these bears from the outside think
- 17:09that they're able to armchair quarterback something this
- 17:12complex without information. It always just kind of laughable
- 17:16to me. And Pan man and I would always
- 17:18joke where we'd see subtweet from consultants.
- 17:21And then we're like, oh, I bet a bell sitting there in his
- 17:24office, he's like, oh damn it, I didn't think about that.
- 17:27The satellite goes into the sun and then on the dark side of the
- 17:31Earth. So it's going to get hot and
- 17:33then cold. Oh, if only I had thought about
- 17:37that. It's like, guys, when you have
- 17:39400 PhDs, they, they like read the chapter around heat
- 17:43dissipation. It's not like a bell sitting
- 17:45there. He's like, oh man, if Holy had
- 17:48hired Tim Farrar, my satellite wouldn't have broken up in
- 17:51orbit. Oh, it didn't break up in orbit
- 17:53despite Tim thinking that. Why?
- 17:55Because it works. And so then this next thing,
- 17:57which I always found to be just the height of being an idiot, is
- 18:01this attempt to kill Asts on a math equation around how many
- 18:05satellites are required for continuous coverage.
- 18:08That's like, all right, well, if it's not 60, maybe it's 70.
- 18:12Who cares? Like the economics are so
- 18:14awesome, it just doesn't really matter.
- 18:16Then as it turns out, you know, some of these guys that don't
- 18:19have an axe to grind will will run these simulations and figure
- 18:22it out, take back feedback. Aha.
- 18:24That's called the when you're doing it from the outside with
- 18:27that information, it's really hard to get it perfectly right.
- 18:30And then when people actually give you the information and you
- 18:32redo it, you can actually get to the right answer.
- 18:34But this guy, Carlos Placido, is an independent consultant, which
- 18:38is very different from an expert consultant.
- 18:40It's an independent consultant seems to actually take into
- 18:43account facts and make good efforts to communicate in an
- 18:49honest way to people. This is a very, very strange
- 18:52concept to me. I don't know how this person
- 18:53possibly has a job, but he posted his analysis on LinkedIn
- 18:57and did a million samples of something and made a map.
- 19:02And the map basically says that the constellation will have
- 19:05coverage and maybe on some of the 10° look angles it will be a
- 19:09little spotty. But I don't know.
- 19:11That's a little different to me of, you know, maybe there's an
- 19:14issue, 1010° look angle and maybe it's spotty.
- 19:17That's a little different than three years ago when people were
- 19:21that nothing would work. And it just goes to show you
- 19:25when you see the evolution of, and I'm not saying anything
- 19:27about this guy Carlos, he actually seems to be a totally
- 19:29honest broker. But when you when you look at
- 19:32people on the outside who have literally not achieved anything
- 19:35in terms of a technical breakthrough or innovation in
- 19:37their own right, trying to throw dirt at the doers of the world
- 19:41who have filed documents with regulatory bodies, with banks,
- 19:46with investors that say what they're going to do.
- 19:48In my experience, having been through a couple of these rodeos
- 19:51in the past, you give the tie to the company.
- 19:54And so I've been through this exercise before with sure and a
- 19:59lot of tank testing and. Fluid dynamic.
- 20:03I'm trying to think of the right physics term because again, I
- 20:05was clueless as always in these things.
- 20:06But I had to predict a lot of things in the past.
- 20:09And when you listen to the consultants, they'd find 1000
- 20:13ways till Sunday, quoting all sorts of analogs about something
- 20:15wouldn't work. But when you go to the primary
- 20:18science, the primary scientists that are actually having hands
- 20:22on data was something I found that they're usually right.
- 20:25You have to use your own brain because sometimes the thing will
- 20:27fail. And if you read the disclosure
- 20:29correctly, the disclosure said that it really might fail.
- 20:32But when the disclosure says it's going to work and you test
- 20:35that, there are a lot of independent ways I experience
- 20:37it's probably going to work. And that's kind of an
- 20:39interesting observation here is that the coverage analysis,
- 20:43after they adjusted it and used the right numbers, they conclude
- 20:50that it's going to be fine, great, we can move on.
- 20:53And so from all this, this is kind of a recap, but a good, I
- 20:58kind of believe in the art of inculcation.
- 21:00It's like beat people over the head with a mop until basic
- 21:05things that will make them rich are understood.
- 21:07And so that's kind of my way of trying to help people is beating
- 21:12you in the head with a mop, which in a way also beats myself
- 21:16in the head with a mop. So I don't do stupid stuff like
- 21:18be short term, but regimen puts out a really cool sweet.
- 21:22I don't know how he does this while he's designing custom ASTS
- 21:26clothes all day, but very talented individual.
- 21:29But he goes through in this tweet with all the different
- 21:31moats with a very cool picture of free What it is some French
- 21:35island that in high tide is an island has a beautiful church.
- 21:40I think it's like Saint Michelle or something Fortress
- 21:42nonetheless with a big Moat. So hope you guys get that point.
- 21:45But he makes the point we have a technical barrier to entry.
- 21:48It's hard to do. This took 10 years.
- 21:50Some of the world's brightest minds.
- 21:52We have a financial barrier to entry.
- 21:54This costs at least a billion dollars to go replicate.
- 21:56We have a regulatory barrier. It's very difficult to get
- 21:59spectrum rights to get M and OS to give you contiguous spectrum,
- 22:02to get the FCC to give you the right to launch.
- 22:05Those are only going to go higher because someone coming
- 22:08down the line won't be able to make a public interest case.
- 22:12But why is in the public interest for a speculative
- 22:15constellation with no M and OS to be put up in orbit?
- 22:18Read only that we have a patent barrier.
- 22:20So all of these novel inventions that were created to do
- 22:23something for the first time, they lock the door behind them
- 22:26with patents. And so you have to navigate that
- 22:27trip wire. The switching costs are going to
- 22:29be enormous. I just go back to the simple
- 22:31thing of you're creating revenue for your M&O partners.
- 22:35You're not charging them anything.
- 22:37You're actually creating revenue for them.
- 22:39So to switch off, they have to get rid of revenue, then they
- 22:42have to deal with all the testing, core integration, all
- 22:46this type of stuff. It, it frankly seems
- 22:48insurmountable to me for there to be a real switching
- 22:53opportunity here because it by its very nature is a natural
- 22:57monopoly. And so switch to what is really
- 23:01the first question. And then if you want to switch
- 23:03to what the, how I think is going to be enormously complex.
- 23:07So the only other constellation that's going to be around is the
- 23:09Starling constellation, but that's not the same thing.
- 23:13That's not integrating with the network core.
- 23:15The E node B is in the air. It's a separate network.
- 23:19It's a totally different architecture.
- 23:21Doesn't seem fungible to me. And then you have the
- 23:24distribution, which is really kind of the commercial note.
- 23:27And so you really block out a lot of competitors because the
- 23:30end customer is controlled by the MNL and you're not going
- 23:33direct. That's a sucker's bet.
- 23:35Ask a radio and how that went. Some people have tried and their
- 23:38corpses are rotting right now. And then you have an economies
- 23:41of scale business. I think what he didn't put in
- 23:43here is the multi client effect that I put in there in my
- 23:46lectures. But this is the type of thing
- 23:48that you're able to spread the cost of all these geographies
- 23:51over 1 constellation, which really makes it so that no MO
- 23:55good or should ever do this themselves.
- 23:58And also it's going to be very difficult for any other company
- 24:00to justify this because you're not going to be able to have the
- 24:03big MNO network base on here to deliver the lowest unitized
- 24:07cost. And then he goes on and say, you
- 24:09know, the scarcity of supply. Well, that's around the spectrum
- 24:13that they're locking up. Then this hunting license with
- 24:16the S band ITU rights, which we'll get to in a second.
- 24:19And so it's just mode after mode after mode.
- 24:21This is the part whenever I kind of lose, I don't know, it is
- 24:26like lose strength or just want to become a total wimp.
- 24:29I, which is often I remind myself of all of these motes.
- 24:34And so in the darkest days of being an ASTS shareholder, the
- 24:37thing that really got me through it, other than frankly talking
- 24:41to Katzie and Pan Man and Steve Larrison all the time.
- 24:43And now you know, we've expanded that group of people that I just
- 24:47tell myself I've never seen a business with this many bears to
- 24:50entry to before. If they can do it, the reward
- 24:53will be insane. At the time it started to become
- 24:55a bigger if to me because I was getting beaten up by the star
- 24:58share price Nick in hindsight, it actually was enormously risky
- 25:01bat and it it worked out and I'm not confusing some elements of
- 25:07luck with skill very humble in that respect.
- 25:09But but the barriers are enormous and that was always my
- 25:12true north of if they can cross the Rubicon, Rome is ours.
- 25:16And that was always what really guided me.
- 25:18And I think that's in the future, what's going to be able
- 25:20to take us to have people expecting that this could be a
- 25:24multiple hundreds of billions of dollar market cap company to the
- 25:27extent that it doesn't just become that quickly.
- 25:30And then we have other tailwinds that keep on hitting until this
- 25:35guy, Donald Trump, well, he's not flying B2 bombers over
- 25:39Putin, which I find to be totally hysterical.
- 25:42He is expected or did, I can't remember if he did it, but the
- 25:46tweets were he was expected to sign an executive order
- 25:49elevating the Office of Space Commerce.
- 25:51And this is just showing you that we're really on the right
- 25:54trend. They're going to, I don't know
- 25:55if they're going to blow a bubble in space, but they're
- 25:57going to try because this is something that the US government
- 26:00wants more of. And So what do you do when you
- 26:02want more of something? You make a massive, massive
- 26:05bubble. What did they want when they
- 26:06wanted housing availability? They created Fannie Mae and
- 26:11Freddie Mac and they subsidized mortgage rates and they created
- 26:14the biggest supernova of finance the world had ever known.
- 26:17And I think they and you know, ended badly for banks, but they
- 26:21created a lot more houses that that they did.
- 26:23And they want more space and they really want more launch,
- 26:26which is great for us because we're short launch costs.
- 26:28And so everyone on this call, if you're an AST shareholder,
- 26:32everyone should be clapping for Blue Origin launches.
- 26:36Everyone should be clapping for SpaceX launches.
- 26:38Everyone should be launching for Rocket Lab launches and ISRO.
- 26:42And everyone, anyone that can light a candle, we wish them
- 26:45happy birthday. It is good for us.
- 26:47But then they want to have this vibrant ecosystem.
- 26:51I think space is the next. AII think it's inextricably
- 26:56linked to AI, and the government has acknowledged it and its
- 27:00importance. Like they have AI, and I think
- 27:02that they will facilitate and accommodate capital like they
- 27:05have AI. Is it as big as AI?
- 27:07No, but it's really big. And I think it's a super trend.
- 27:11And I think we're early on to it.
- 27:12And I'm looking forward to riding it.
- 27:14You know who else is looking forward to riding it?
- 27:15Jr. Wilson, let's meet the team.
- 27:18And so Jr. Wilson is an executive or was an
- 27:22executive importantly from AT&T. He was their head of towers
- 27:27business and now he works AST Space Mobile.
- 27:30And so one thing I've learned maybe in the past five years,
- 27:34really because of the different, different seat I've sat in,
- 27:37that's what's kind of good about having a little bit of a diverse
- 27:39career as you put a lot of different perspectives together.
- 27:42And I think that's one of my strong points.
- 27:44So clueless as I am on RF engineering and FCC filings and
- 27:48things like that, I have sort of a kaleidoscope when it comes to
- 27:52putting together a lot of different angles, I think.
- 27:54And I carefully watch talent flow.
- 27:56What I've noticed when building private companies is attracting
- 27:59talent is often the differentiator between life and
- 28:03death. And so when you see great talent
- 28:06coming into a company, it's telling you a lot of things.
- 28:09It's telling you that the existing team is is highly
- 28:12capable and a smart enough to attract talent, smart enough to
- 28:16know they need talent and have an opportunity sufficient to
- 28:20justify talent until we've seen a lot of talented people.
- 28:23This is where I really kicked off 4 years ago just profiling
- 28:26people at the company for my own sanity of are they voting with
- 28:30me or other people that know what they're doing who are going
- 28:31to deliver this company? Are they actually there?
- 28:34And with Jared Wilson, this is great.
- 28:37A guy who ran the tower business bailing to go to ASD Space
- 28:40Mobile. I mean, this is literally our
- 28:42thesis. And what makes it better is Jr.
- 28:45had been a Teledessec. And for those of you who don't
- 28:47know Teledessec, we actually went over this a couple weeks
- 28:49ago. But this was in the early days
- 28:52and the 90s when the dream of space telecom really took off.
- 28:56Teledessec was backed by Greg Macaw, Bill Gates and it was
- 29:00really the who's who's company. They died for a lot of reasons.
- 29:03It was just premature was directed handset.
- 29:05They outsourced their manufacturing to Boeing who
- 29:08scalloped them. So he saw their dream and
- 29:14failure nodes 25 years ago, maybe 30 years ago at this
- 29:17point. And then he's now seen the right
- 29:22pitch and swing swinging at it. It's great and he's had a long
- 29:26spoken track record about talking about ASTS is
- 29:32technology. I know we've all watched some
- 29:33webcast from him one or two years ago and learned a lot is
- 29:37he'd go on there alternating with Chris Sambar.
- 29:39It was really one of the key rocket tell supporters of space
- 29:44mobile at AT&T that really allowed us to get the support we
- 29:48needed. They're very exciting to see
- 29:50more of these people jump ship. I know the Jennifer our new FCC
- 29:53had coming from Echostar is incredible and we're just
- 29:57starting to attract the best talent in the industry for each
- 30:00of these specific roles. And that's really more important
- 30:04to me than watching Morgan Stanley buy some more shares or
- 30:09watching, you know, whatever investor name it, buy more
- 30:12shares. And a good investor can be very
- 30:14smart and certainly have a good track record, but it's very
- 30:16different to see industry leaders join the company that
- 30:19with their life. So then next thing that's
- 30:22equally important is watching M and OS ditch their star to this
- 30:27wagon. And so we also saw a meeting
- 30:30with Scott this week where I believe he was saying that
- 30:33they're pretty close to 2-DA's with M and OS.
- 30:37I got some various copies of notes floating around.
- 30:40So thanks for the people that were able to go.
- 30:42And so my personal bet is Verizon and Bell Canada, but and
- 30:47pan man, the rebel that he is, made a bolder prediction and
- 30:51said Saudi telecom Zayn or mobility will sign D as all of
- 30:55them have MO use with space mobile and we'll find out.
- 30:58But now would be the time for these M and OS to jump.
- 31:01And perhaps the Saudis make sense just because of where they
- 31:04are in the world and maybe sit more nicely with the initial
- 31:07constellation. But it also fits why Andy
- 31:10Johnson on the earnings call said, we're good on money.
- 31:13We're going to be funding with government and commercial stuff.
- 31:16And you like to think that they're such ninjas that they
- 31:19actually were dramatic about how they cancel the ATM as a way to
- 31:23give the space mob yet another clue.
- 31:25Because I feel like they really like, I know they really respect
- 31:29their investors and they also respect Reg FD.
- 31:34But they don't leak information from what I can tell.
- 31:36But they can drop nuances that were, you know, as professional
- 31:41semi colon analysts to study punctuation, do pick up on the
- 31:46facts, really point out, see the idea that we're going to have
- 31:49DAS pretty soon. And I think that's true.
- 31:54And I've always said it makes no sense to sign the DAS early
- 31:58until the constellation is right there.
- 32:00Signing ADA early is just paper PR value that will fade and you
- 32:04might have traded forever commercial value for that little
- 32:08flash in the pan. And so if you're a short term
- 32:10pumper, you do that. If you're running the company as
- 32:13if it's your own money, which is what a bell does, you don't do
- 32:16that. You do one thing which is the
- 32:19right thing. And the right thing if I were on
- 32:21the board would be to Braveheart it and you hold the line, add
- 32:26some more face paint to look extra scary, but you hold, hold,
- 32:29hold, hold, hold until right when you're about to get the
- 32:34constellation going and then you're going to get the highest
- 32:37price for your differentiated service.
- 32:39And so I think that's exactly what's going to happen.
- 32:41While we have DA watch going on, we also have Golden Dome Watch.
- 32:45And so there continues to be a lot of interesting stuff.
- 32:48The Pentagon is very much under a gag order right now from what
- 32:52we can tell. But we continue to have really
- 32:54cool stuff percolate out until there's some more meetings in
- 32:58Huntsville, AL, where I believe the command and Control Center
- 33:02is being built by Lockheed. Then you have Lockheed, by the
- 33:06way, copying or formatting, which suggests that we're
- 33:09working with them, which I do believe is true.
- 33:12And then you have some other cool notes coming out.
- 33:15And so this investor for future 100 or at for future 100 put out
- 33:21a tweet where we have Clinton Austin, I'm back from this
- 33:25Missile Defense Agency Golden Dome industry day.
- 33:27This was in Huntsville. And the key takeaways from this
- 33:30is speed is everything. They want to go fast, think,
- 33:33think big. They want to get this the old
- 33:38golden Dome up. Now this is a Humongo project,
- 33:42$151 billion / 10 years. They want traditional primes and
- 33:47non traditional players. This is not business as usual.
- 33:50Companies like ASD Space Mobile are going to be invited to the
- 33:53dinner. They are trying to solve
- 33:55problems with industry, which we know we're doing too.
- 34:01We're working with them and it's going to be a multi layered
- 34:03defense system. We're an important part of that
- 34:05layer. Every time I read more about
- 34:07Golden Dome, I continue just to see more and more overlap to
- 34:10what we are likely going to be doing.
- 34:12At the same time, there is some news that's getting increasingly
- 34:16public, which we'd found out about a while ago.
- 34:18We just kept quiet because it seemed like it was pretty
- 34:20sensitive to the company and we're not going to cut off our
- 34:22nose to spite our faces. But there's more and more people
- 34:25kind of letting the cat out of the bag, letting the cat see out
- 34:28of the bag about the Homestead Air Force Base.
- 34:31And so Homestead Air Force Base is the next expansion area for
- 34:36the company. It's very exciting.
- 34:38It's on an Air Force Base, it's in Florida.
- 34:40There's a lot of missile defense things going on there.
- 34:43And we're seemingly poised to get some really nice financial
- 34:47incentives to build out our presence there.
- 34:51And what is neat is that we could likely be getting Chips
- 34:56Act money for it. And it's also very clear, if you
- 35:01read very carefully, that the Homestead project is going to be
- 35:05serving both public and Department of Defense
- 35:07applications until we'll find out.
- 35:10It doesn't even matter actually what they actually do there.
- 35:13I don't know if it's going to be a dedicated Blackbird production
- 35:15facility or just serve the greater throughput of the
- 35:18company. I don't know that that actually
- 35:21matters or if they will be different, but I think we are
- 35:24lining up to be getting some federal money from this.
- 35:26Just like Trump is throwing Chips Act money at Intel.
- 35:29I wouldn't be surprised if we get some money because we are a
- 35:33chip company. And then there's continued
- 35:36confirmation of military ties. And so at Rocket tank 123, whose
- 35:40rocket tank is freaking full of liquid oxygen.
- 35:44This guy does not sleep. He's like another Kevin Chan.
- 35:48He noted that AST just posted a new job application for, quote,
- 35:53environmental test engineer and it requires military standards.
- 35:58And So what is mil dot STD .810? Well, I don't know what a mil
- 36:04STD is. That sounds spicy too.
- 36:07Too many tours overseas, young war man.
- 36:10But it's not an STD. It is United States military
- 36:14standard, and it is the test methods for assessing the
- 36:18durability and performance of military equipment under various
- 36:21environmental conditions. Basically, it's a requirement
- 36:23for working with the DoD. It may not come as much of a
- 36:26surprise to most paying attention, but ASTS may be just
- 36:30as much of A defense company as it is a commercial company.
- 36:33Thank you, Rocket Tank 123. And so it's pretty exciting.
- 36:37Now let's look a little bit more into the military.
- 36:39So we have Geist, who is a military official in an
- 36:43interesting article that was shared with us.
- 36:45It's under the tweet military multiclient.
- 36:48And they say, quote, the military business does not scale
- 36:50enough by itself to warrant a standalone constellation, Dice
- 36:54noted. Quote.
- 36:54Nor do I think the military wants to have its own standalone
- 36:57constellation. So if companies can provide them
- 37:00with the full capabilities that augment an existing network that
- 37:03fulfill their operational and usability needs, then that's a
- 37:08solution. Whoop, there it is again.
- 37:11I think we got the whooping cough for like just everywhere
- 37:14the world wants us to be. It's a great solution for the
- 37:16military and that's why I think there's going to be more and
- 37:19more government business coming our way and more and more
- 37:22acknowledge of the acknowledgement of this.
- 37:24But that's not all. If you order now, you also get
- 37:27APNT solution thrown in, which is positioning, navigation and
- 37:31tracking. And so the FCC has its own PNT
- 37:34initiative. There's a separate docket for
- 37:35this and ASTS is front and center.
- 37:38It's very interesting. This actually was super
- 37:40interesting. They in their filing are
- 37:44combining the capabilities of their Leo constellation with the
- 37:47free sky Terra satellite that we picked up in Legato deal.
- 37:51So like all jokes aside, order now and you get like a free
- 37:54sponge included. We literally got a free
- 37:56satellite. And so like true ASTS space
- 37:59mobile trivia would be how many GS satellites do we have?
- 38:02And all the young folk would be like trick question, it's Leo.
- 38:06It's like, no, we have a GO satellite bro.
- 38:08We got it set a low cost of $530 million and some penny warrants.
- 38:14And so ASTS puts in an SEC filing.
- 38:16The tiny portion of PNT can provide critical information on
- 38:19its own. ASTS Space Mobile has been
- 38:21designed to provide accurate time signals across the full
- 38:24coverage area leveraging the 40 megahertz of L band MSS spectrum
- 38:28that AST Space Mobile will be using for its low Earth orbit
- 38:32space space cellular broadband service.
- 38:34Combined with access to this spectrum on the L band MSS Sky
- 38:38Terra geostationary orbit satellite, ASTS will be able to
- 38:41bring to users across the United States resilient, high quality
- 38:45alternative PNT service as well as providing precision timing
- 38:49for critical infrastructure. This is so cool.
- 38:51So first of all, we're seeing more and more cards flip around
- 38:55how this legato spectrum will be used.
- 38:57While I have not been able to prove it, and I've asked people
- 38:59who that have been able to prove it, so I think they're just
- 39:03being tight lipped around me. I think that the DoD already has
- 39:08an agreement with AST Space Mobile around the Legato
- 39:11spectrum, or it's so blindingly obvious about what's happening
- 39:14that they just stepped aside. There's just no state of the
- 39:16world where the DoD, which stole the spectrum from Legato, was
- 39:21sitting there during a federal bankruptcy case and didn't have
- 39:24their pager go off from the judge saying Sup.
- 39:28Is this feasible? There's just no chance to me
- 39:31that someone would have missed that.
- 39:32And so now you're seeing the use cases of this L band spectrum
- 39:36for the military being disclosed in the FCC docket before we are
- 39:39actually close the deal. But to show that we could be
- 39:42providing the backup GPS system that's important.
- 39:45That is a critical piece of national security
- 39:48infrastructure, which is coming into the frame with what we just
- 39:53saw happen in Israel and Iran. And, and obviously those
- 39:56Russians are sitting problems all over the place.
- 40:00There's a plane crash the other day, I think it was in
- 40:02Azerbaijan because the Russian spoof the plane's GPS and then
- 40:07wouldn't let it land. It's very, very important that
- 40:09we have a backup PNT system system.
- 40:12And I think ASTS is very well positioned to do that.
- 40:15And now it's no longer injection on our part.
- 40:19We're, we're seeing in the documents, they're telling us
- 40:21how they're going to do it. The Speaking of the FCC, they
- 40:24keep chugging along with our application.
- 40:26So our constellation is called S. 3065 and there continues to
- 40:31be more filings, some compromises in terms of how the
- 40:34backhaul is going to work using some specific spectrum that
- 40:37won't piss off all the astronomers.
- 40:38Which by the way these astronomers need to turn off
- 40:41their telescopes anyway because they evidently are signalling to
- 40:44aliens that if you saw that Harvard professor there's some
- 40:46large alien coming to Earth to destroy us.
- 40:49We really should rethink about broadcasting radio signals out
- 40:52into the Galaxy without knowing exactly who's listening to.
- 40:55Maybe Space Mobile will save the world by blinding them all with
- 40:59Block 2. But it looks like we reached a
- 41:01compromise so that they would continue to use their radio
- 41:04telescopes to invite aliens to destroy us.
- 41:07If it's like, why didn't you guys watch Independence Day?
- 41:09It's all laid out right there. But we're moving so end of the
- 41:13world, which might happen anyway.
- 41:14We will have FCC approval before then.
- 41:16And there was another interference study that came
- 41:19out. And so the filing, I'll redo
- 41:22what ChatGPT said. The filing provides A defensible
- 41:24engineering basis that Asts can coexist with terrestrial Co
- 41:28channel licensees and meet the SCSR.
- 41:32Now rule and order. OOBE is out of bound.
- 41:36What does it stand for emissions, something like that?
- 41:39Constraints. That's the Meg 120 threshold,
- 41:42but still offering usable 4G5G service over large swaths of
- 41:47continental US. Residual risk is concentrated in
- 41:50operational execution, EG the timing of beams and power
- 41:54coordination and dynamic cell meeting in type orders.
- 41:57That's exactly what you want to hear.
- 41:58I think the best possible answer I can imagine hearing is there
- 42:02is no interference risk and that that remains is totally
- 42:06controllable through operating execution.
- 42:11In other words, we're not spamming the US with these large
- 42:15side labs, which Catsy has done kind of an incredible job
- 42:18educating this all on this. The interference that would be
- 42:21at risk is within our control because of our beamforming
- 42:24technology. That is a great answer and
- 42:26that's why I think we're going to get approval pretty soon.
- 42:28So let's continue on spectrum. So I find it always very
- 42:32interesting to see the difference between strategic
- 42:34thinkers and peasants. I fancy myself to one day be a
- 42:38strategic thinker, but I'm merely a spectator of those who
- 42:42have the actual title. And then you have Tim Ferrar.
- 42:45So it's interesting is at every opportunity people want to throw
- 42:48stones at AST Space Mobile, but they often truly don't recognize
- 42:53the difference between chess and checkers.
- 42:55The company is very clear to people that this ITU priority
- 42:59deal they got two weeks ago that does not give them 60 megahertz
- 43:04of global spectrum. What it does is give them an
- 43:07unequal playing field to get it. It is merely just an initial
- 43:10move on what is going to be a multi year chess game to
- 43:14aggregate as much attractive MSS spectrum around the globe as
- 43:19possible, which then they monetize as terrestrial
- 43:22spectrum, thereby having one of the world's most incredible.
- 43:25I don't think this is an understatement.
- 43:26This is one of the world's most incredible arbitragers of taking
- 43:30fallow MSS spectrum and lighting it up as terrestrial.
- 43:33This is just giving them one more advantage in doing that,
- 43:39but before the world can catch up.
- 43:41If you're a flexible strategic thinker, you'll see while you
- 43:44didn't actually learn anything about them securing additional
- 43:48spectrum of that announcement, that is true.
- 43:50What you saw is a an intent and BA means by which to effectuate
- 43:56that strategy over a multi year period.
- 43:58That's what you want if you're a long term thinker, if you're
- 44:02looking to find the next Jensen, the next Sacha, the Neph, next
- 44:08Bezos, I wouldn't even put Buffett in there because he's
- 44:10not thinking. I don't think he's thinking like
- 44:12multiple steps ahead for a competitive checkmate.
- 44:17That's I don't really think of Buffett that way.
- 44:18But Bezos, Sasha, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, frankly, like these
- 44:22are the people that are playing true industrial chess to find
- 44:26ways to have checkmates in their industry.
- 44:29And I believe a bell will be put into that pedestal in the years
- 44:33to come. And this is just another tell
- 44:34tale that this is not your father's satellite company.
- 44:38It is not that this is a future Maggie constituent and they're
- 44:42playing a bigger game. So then we have Elena Naira,
- 44:45who's a look at her resume, let's put it that way.
- 44:47She definitely did Kumon math when she was young and almost
- 44:52certainly ate oatmeal instead of fruit lifts.
- 44:56Very smart cookie. And so she points out in a
- 44:59tweet, which I agree with that says M and OS have one and only
- 45:03one strategic asset license spectrum.
- 45:06You might have heard something similar from me in the past
- 45:07because I have made the point that we are AWS to the telecom
- 45:12industry. They should get out of the
- 45:13business of hanging towers and owning all this capital
- 45:16equipment. They'll never be able to get out
- 45:18of it totally, but they should seek to diminish their CapEx
- 45:20toward this low return commoditized part of the value
- 45:23chain and focus on the two things that really drive of
- 45:26value spectrum. And then the thing that Emma
- 45:29that Elena missed is a relationship with the consumer.
- 45:33And so the scarce thing is the spectrum, the hard fought thing
- 45:38is the consumer. The two of those things make a
- 45:41valuable enterprise. Right now you have to load in
- 45:44all this crap in the middle, which dilutes the returns and
- 45:46makes Emma knows not really great businesses.
- 45:49But the reason why the Mnos should love ASTS is because it
- 45:53is a spectrum expander. They're going to bring
- 45:56additional spectrum to the party because they, and only they can
- 46:00light up MSS spectrum as terrestrial.
- 46:03But then they allow the existing spectrum to be used much more
- 46:05efficiently. They fill in the black holes
- 46:08without having to put in new capital equipment.
- 46:10They can utilize wasted spectrum guard band spectrum in ways that
- 46:15are not previously possible. This is why ASTS is the dream
- 46:19team of an M&L, which is why you have them all piling in.
- 46:22And then we have another tweet just as a reminder to focus on
- 46:26the spectrum by only 6 inches. And so, as I said just a second
- 46:30ago, STS Space Mobile has created alchemy.
- 46:32I repeat alchemy, sticking my fists at the clouds.
- 46:36And so only 6 inches pulls out great quote from the earnings
- 46:41call. And it's when a bell said quote,
- 46:43yes, I mean, you obviously 16 megahertz of global spectrum.
- 46:46If you if it were purely terrestrial, it would be a
- 46:49number that nobody can afford. And it's so funny because he's
- 46:53right, you know, it's just it's an asset that would be too big
- 46:56for anyone to pay for. We could do the math of how many
- 47:00megahertz pops that is and it's a lot but almost extensions
- 47:03arrives at the same statement that I I just made that the
- 47:06thing ASTS is technology does is it de facto takes MSS spectrum
- 47:10and makes it terrestrial. He says most still don't get
- 47:13that they're turning water into wine.
- 47:15This was the critical observation I think back in
- 47:17January when we got the legato deal to the tape and that I
- 47:21remember just telling anpan man, I said dude, this is alchemy.
- 47:25It's so elegant they they are turning MSS into terrestrial and
- 47:30the whole thing that people had tried and failed at is they were
- 47:34trying to actually repurpose this MSS as terrestrial with ATC
- 47:39clearances. They actually hang the towers on
- 47:41the ground and that's where all the interference stuff happened
- 47:44and just a nightmare, nevermind the capital intensity that would
- 47:47have would have occurred had they been successful in this.
- 47:50But to actually utilize it with the capital efficiency of a
- 47:53satellite constellation is, is truly genius.
- 47:56And I think that this will will be, this is a nuanced point for
- 48:00sure. But to have this in your back
- 48:01pocket, knowing the value creation engine that will be
- 48:06released in the future when we have simple things like
- 48:08satellites being launched. It was a powerful observation
- 48:11that I highly recommend people sit on so that you think like an
- 48:15owner. And then, yeah, I just have some
- 48:17other tweets here where we're getting the 13 FS come in and so
- 48:20the pod monkeys arrive. So the Millennium, Millennium
- 48:23guys bought shares. Good for them.
- 48:25You know, if the stock goes on 3%, they all get fired.
- 48:27But then we also have ADB report came out most of the same
- 48:30Ernie's recap we've given. UBS came out with a report.
- 48:34They're no longer restricted. They had their fireside shot.
- 48:38Scott. Scott was apparently wearing a
- 48:40Blue Origin shirt and people are like, well, why do you guys
- 48:47think they're going to be launching early on Blue Origin?
- 48:49Oh, I don't know, Scott's Lily wearing a shirt, but why?
- 48:51Why is it Scott wearing Red Room swag?
- 48:53I mean, we have like big questions here.
- 48:55Now that I think about it, I really want to see Scott wearing
- 48:57a Catsy shirt. Out of respect, I might write a
- 49:0013D if I figure out how to do that and make that point.
- 49:04So then we also have Catsy or we have cancer.
- 49:07Not catsy. We have cancer writing a report.
- 49:10And then we also have Rocket Man strikes again, like a tank 123.
- 49:15And there's this cool article, it was in Spanish, a test of my
- 49:19Duolingo. And it is about a round table
- 49:25meeting in Columbia, including their agriculture, environmental
- 49:30sciences, finance, cartography, the British Embassy, Navy to
- 49:33blah, blah, blah, everyone. And they're just talking about
- 49:36all the use cases and applications of this technology
- 49:40with all these different verticals.
- 49:42And that's where I just go back to the Tam here is going to be
- 49:44wild. I really wouldn't be surprised
- 49:47if the Tam we ultimately under wrote about kind of consumers
- 49:50and dead spots. I don't think I'd be surprised
- 49:53if that ended up being a minority of the revenue versus
- 49:56all of the other stuff. And that's going to be really
- 49:58exciting is ASTS based mobile as a platform where people with
- 50:02problems come to us with a solution that we enable versus
- 50:05having to be clairvoyant and think of all the problems in the
- 50:08world. I think that reverse inquiry of
- 50:10let builders build on your platform is going to be a really
- 50:13enormously powerful way of thinking.
- 50:15And then I hope that's how ASTS pursues it.
- 50:18But you know when looking at the opportunity for the consumer
- 50:22market, to me it is pretty crazy that T-Mobile already has a 1.5%
- 50:26penetration rate on their Starling product.
- 50:30It is just been so massively maligned in the market as a
- 50:34crappy service that to have 1 1/2% of people signing up for it
- 50:37at that price seems really positive to me in terms of what
- 50:41the baseline number is going to be for AST space mobile.
- 50:44So that's a good number to see because it's it's setting what I
- 50:48think is a very high floor. And then Speaking of Starlink,
- 50:53this is also kind of funny. And so at for future 100 strikes
- 50:57again. And so there is this LinkedIn
- 50:59post by Jason precedent and he says Elon Musk sterling makes a
- 51:05desperate move in a brutal satellite Internet war.
- 51:08They're reducing their hardware price by 50% and some reductions
- 51:11in monthly subscription pricing with a low cost entry point, no
- 51:15service contract. How does this secure a customer
- 51:17prevent churn to something paren coming soon.
- 51:20They'll likely include some very attractive promotions and a bell
- 51:25like the post and I just got to read this to be Starlink is
- 51:28about to get disrupted in a big way.
- 51:30I still have always maintained that, you know, never let good
- 51:35enough get in the way of anything.
- 51:40I think the right quote is never let perfection be the enemy of
- 51:43good enough or something like this.
- 51:44And you're even as I sit here doing this spaces in the parking
- 51:49lot in a hotel while on vacation with the window open so I don't
- 51:53suffocate, but now suffering the wrath of mosquitoes.
- 51:56Do you need a, do you need a Starling terminal?
- 51:57I mean, we've, we've seen all these videos of people bolting A
- 51:59Starling terminal to their car. If you're getting 35 megabits
- 52:03per second or the high end when they have multi and multi,
- 52:07you're getting 120 megabits per second.
- 52:09You're just going to use your phone.
- 52:10There are going to be so many other options that are going to
- 52:13be so much less friction that I do think that as TS Space mobile
- 52:17is going to be eating into the fixed wireless business, the the
- 52:23fixed satellite business, even even if they're not actually
- 52:25targeting it, people are pretty creative and people figure it
- 52:28out. It's going to be so much cheaper
- 52:30to do. And that's exciting because we
- 52:31know that Starlink is the most exciting telecom story or was
- 52:36there's a reason why it trades like that.
- 52:37And I think we get to come in hot and you're going to have all
- 52:40the M and OS who are not born yesterday knowing exactly how to
- 52:42cross sell this exact same service offering.
- 52:45Wait till these guys at AT&T taste blood and it's going to be
- 52:49like a great white shark just ripping to shred Starlink in
- 52:52every possible way they can with all of their B to B units going
- 52:56their enterprise salespeople. It's going to be, I think it's
- 52:59going to be wild as our constellation skills and we have
- 53:01the capacity to really sell through services like that,
- 53:04which will be a while because you're going to have to have a
- 53:06lot of satellites up before meeting our base service goals,
- 53:09which are going to be to have a continuous consumer service.
- 53:12But then once this thing is really densified, I think the
- 53:15opportunities are going to be pretty exciting.
- 53:17Then last thing to Reg Room is making it a little easier for
- 53:20people to consume these podcasts.
- 53:22So thanks, Reg Room, it takes a village.
- 53:24I don't really have the time to think like a normal influencer
- 53:30because I'm not. And so I love it when people
- 53:32figure out ways to make things easier and, and just repost my
- 53:36stuff. So and he's reposting my my
- 53:37spaces and, and demands and probably thoughts and everyone
- 53:40else's. That's great.
- 53:41Thanks for him for making our clothes and making our content.
- 53:44And then I posted some other news articles.
- 53:47They came out. So CNBC fine, but then
- 53:49interestingly came out again, which is great.
- 53:52Aaron's as a really nice reach of, of a different type of
- 53:56investor. I like to read Baron's most
- 53:58weekends. It's it's what I do just to kind
- 54:00of take tabs on a lot of different companies and it just
- 54:03shows that the the tent is broadening and it just expect
- 54:07more and more of it over the next year.
- 54:09And we're finally noticed. I had actually emailed this guy
- 54:12for his name on route back years ago saying, you know, you should
- 54:16cover ASTSI promise. I'm a real person and you know,
- 54:20this is exciting. I've been reading your articles
- 54:22for years and years and years and I promise you should read
- 54:25this. And you know, of course, when
- 54:26you e-mail someonefromthecuckreport@gmail.com,
- 54:30your emails go straight to spam. But at least I tried.
- 54:34And it's just like when I emailed Ron Berenson to my
- 54:37report and I'm sure, you know, you get like the PDF from at the
- 54:41kook report. And he's probably like, yeah,
- 54:43you know what? I'm not opening that PDF.
- 54:45Definitely like APLA hacking e-mail.
- 54:48But it wasn't. It was actually my attempt to be
- 54:50helpful to someone that I don't know, but respect his dad.
- 54:54And, you know, he'll maybe one day hear the story and look at
- 54:57his deleted items and go, I was served some quality DD on a
- 55:01platter and I deleted it. And you know what, He's still a
- 55:04billionaire, so he won't care. But that's what I have for
- 55:06everyone. Hope we have an exciting week
- 55:09ahead. We've been spending a lot of
- 55:11time trying to, I say we just kind of low working group trying
- 55:14to figure out some of the launch specifics and you know, think
- 55:18that we're going to have, you know, a nice three to four week
- 55:23period is kind of our latest thinking of some news
- 55:27developments on that front. But we're really trying to dig
- 55:30as deep as we can. And when we find anything really
- 55:32great, I'm sure you'll see it posted on Twitter everywhere.
- 55:35So thanks for joining on the ad hoc.
- 55:37I'll be back at home next weekend, so we'll be back on the
- 55:40normal schedule. So sorry for just doing this
- 55:42with 5 minutes advance notice. You know, for unpaid content,
- 55:47you get what you pay for. I'll leave it running for a
- 55:49couple minutes so it doesn't cut off on replay.
- 55:51Hope everyone has a great night. Thanks for listening to the AST
- 55:55Space Mobile podcast. If you enjoyed this episode and
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- 56:10Thanks again and I'll see you next time.