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- 0:02Hey there, you're listening to the Generation's Church podcast. We pray that the
- 0:06word of God today will challenge, change and channel you into your God given
- 0:09destiny. Now let's get started. Hi there, I'm Andyo, the pastor
- 0:15of Generations Church. Thank you for listening to our podcast. We don't usually
- 0:20do this on a podcast, but then this is no usual episode. The
- 0:24speaker of today's message is Pastor Timo Tillo, who was the senior pastor of
- 0:29Every Nation Church Malaysia. He was one of my mentors and spiritual father and
- 0:35was someone who made a great impact in my life. Him and his wife,
- 0:39Pasta Teresa, personally spend time with my wife and me to guide and
- 0:43coach us in both life and ministry. And we are not even members of
- 0:47his church, so we are tremendously blessed and grateful for the love and care.
- 0:54You know, Pastor Team taught us many things. He was generous with
- 0:57his knowledge, wisdom and experience. He didn't hold back any secrets of his
- 1:02success. No questions were out of bounds. He was wise, successful,
- 1:07and larger than life, yet always had a posture to listen and to learn.
- 1:12We often go to him to ask questions to learn from him, but
- 1:18many times he would turn back and ask us questions to learn from us.
- 1:22What a humble man he was, vulnerable, real and authentic with us.
- 1:27He was a real and true inspiration to me. But why dare essay was
- 1:34Well, it's because on April sixth, twenty twenty four, the day this
- 1:40message was recorded live in our church, he came to our church as a
- 1:42guest speaker, something we had been planning for many months, so we were
- 1:48very excited that he could finally come to speak to the church. But after
- 1:52he delivered his sermon, and about an hour after the service was over,
- 1:57as he had finished his dinner and was about to dress our leadership team,
- 2:00he collapsed suddenly. We now know that he had a massive heart attack and
- 2:07he was called home to be with the Lord. He's now safe and securely
- 2:12home with Jesus. I personally believe that pastor team when to be with Jesus,
- 2:17having lived each day to the full, literally for the Lord, for
- 2:23his family and the people he has been called to love and self. I
- 2:28said literally because he often shared what a typical day would look like for him.
- 2:32He wakes up at five am and starts his first appointment with people at
- 2:38seven am. He then exercises from two to four pm, playing his favorite
- 2:42sport, badminton, and he was very good at it. And then he
- 2:46continues with more appointments, meeting people from five am to twelve am. He
- 2:51truly lived each day to the full. It always amazes me how he always
- 2:57manages to find and make time for people, yet never neglecting his time with
- 3:02the Lord and his family. And still he had an enormous capacity to love
- 3:09and serve others. He's always thinking about others. He's always thinking, how
- 3:15can I love one more person to Jesus Christ, how can I help one
- 3:20more person. It is no wonder that his very last sermon delivered the one
- 3:24you're about to listen to. It's about loving and serving people, sharing with
- 3:30them and showing them the love of Jesus, and inspiring and leading them into
- 3:36a relationship with the Savior. He called this the main Thing. He exhorts
- 3:42us to keep the main thing, the main thing, which means not to
- 3:46be distracted by anything else that is not really that important, not to be
- 3:51bogged down by church programs or politics or processors, but to always remember the
- 3:55main thing. For Jesus for saving lives and be our main thing too.
- 4:01When I think about it, it is quite poety that the last time he
- 4:05preached and the last time he ministered and served was in someone else's church and
- 4:12not his own. It was not even a big church. It's a Neil
- 4:16young and small church, just a little over a year old. He wasn't
- 4:20looking for a big platform or a big publicity or anything like that. He
- 4:26just wanted to serve the Lord and to help others. So my church and
- 4:30I are incredibly humble and honored to have been given this special privilege to receive,
- 4:39and we will always remember this legacy forever. As you listen to this
- 4:45message, I pray that you two will be encouraged, inspired and challenged to
- 4:49live your life to the full and to live for the one who created you
- 4:54and to live for his greater purpose in your life. Maybe we all learn,
- 4:59like past the team, to keep the main thing the main thing.
- 5:04Today I want to kind of hopefully help every one of us who walk away
- 5:12knowing what's the main thing. And I know that Generations Church just kind of
- 5:16sovereignly got kind of pieced that together. And and D and Jay was telling
- 5:21me the story how to call of God, and I think it's very important
- 5:27every time and we do church. What's the main thing? Okay, so
- 5:30all of us are familiar with the concept of the main thing, especially in
- 5:33a corporate world. Stephn Covid was the one that made that little statement,
- 5:38which you be together, the main thing is to keep the main thing the
- 5:44main thing, all right, all of us know that. But in his
- 5:47book, Steven Covid was also trying to tell us that if you focus on
- 5:53the second thing or other things, you run the potential to actually lose your
- 5:58main thing. And I think that's really scary. You know, when I
- 6:01think about what's the main thing for church? What does really God call us
- 6:09to do? When Matthew sixteen the Bible says Jesus said I'll build my church,
- 6:13she can't describe it's kind of church that the gates of hell will not
- 6:17prevail. Right, And then three and a half years lay that asks too,
- 6:20you sing happy baby to the church. And the church kind of had
- 6:24its own formation two thousand plus ustree to today. So there are really many
- 6:29many expressions of church. I still remember that when I went to the States,
- 6:32the first place that we visited when we touched now was a friend of
- 6:35mine say hey, you know, we're on the way to the Bible College,
- 6:39and then he says, I'll bring you through the downtown because there's a
- 6:43church called Elvis Presley Church where Jesus Christ, picture and Elvis are together.
- 6:49So you can see that when it comes to this concept of church, you
- 6:55have so many different expression and variation as well, which really really content with
- 7:02today's social media world. How much is online church, how much is on
- 7:06site church, all of that, okay, But in the smack of all
- 7:11this, I think there were so many things that compete with the concept of
- 7:15church on the main thing. Today's world. Your world have groups of believers,
- 7:20but actually they are very much into end times, Okay. Their whole
- 7:26life is to look at an event, try to find a passai in the
- 7:30Bible and say this fulfilled this verse with the reason upheaval in the Middle East.
- 7:38So many people just admittate zoom into that. When COVID happens, so
- 7:41many people thought it's going to be end of the world. So you've got
- 7:44the end time version of people who chase after that. But is that the
- 7:48main thing? So I find that we live in the world today, where
- 7:53it is very important for us always to come back to the main thing.
- 7:57Okay, now, so this is the way I have always been one thing,
- 8:01to keep the main thing the main thing. So by til twenty eighth
- 8:05verse eighteen to twenty Each is a very common verse because everywhere you go,
- 8:09every church wants to be disciples, but everybody does it very differently. Okay,
- 8:15now, so would you be together? Jesus came to them and said,
- 8:20all authority and han and on earth has been given to me. Go
- 8:24therefore make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father
- 8:28of the Son of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I've
- 8:31commanded you. Behold, I am with you always to the end of age.
- 8:35Okay, let us pray God. We come humbly before you. God.
- 8:39We want to invite your presence. God. I pray for the next
- 8:45thirty minutes or so, God, you will give us. O God,
- 8:48Lord, just a clarity, just a clear trumpet call why we exist as
- 8:54a church, and that Lord, we are able to walk away one thing
- 9:00to make disciples. And that simply means we will make disciples starting from people
- 9:07who actually do not know you, So I thank you. I pray for
- 9:11the favor of God. Thank you prayer this in Jesus name. Amen.
- 9:13All right, now all of us are very familiar with this verse, okay,
- 9:18And how you you have not seen this verse? Okay, I'm sure
- 9:20all of you have. Okay. Now, there are many lenses to look
- 9:24at this this verse no matter how you look at it, and kind of
- 9:28kind of walk you through a little bit. First of all, you can
- 9:30look at it from a relational lens. Jesus had tryed to have your very
- 9:35interesting relationship with a disciples, so much so that the Bible tells us that
- 9:39that Jesus wanted to leave. It was the disciple. Jesus told the disciple.
- 9:43It says, why, you know, why do you feel sad like
- 9:48like you're losing me? You're often as such, right, So it tells
- 9:52you that it was very close needed kind of a community. So you can
- 9:56look at it from a relational lens. Jesus gave his last words. Our
- 10:00last words are all important. I know of a lot of men and women
- 10:03of God who will who will honor the last word of a particular person.
- 10:09Just about last year Christmas, which was quite a very funny story. It
- 10:13wasn't funny, okay, but it was quite It was quite a story.
- 10:16So last year we did a little production and then we wanted to go by
- 10:22twenty three gate perth ticket okay, And the goal is we do not we
- 10:28we are not looking for the money, but we're looking for people to pay
- 10:31so that they can confirm the seats. Okay. So our goal was to
- 10:37have three thousand to four thousand people that will come by for that production.
- 10:41That was that was our heart's desire. So we will pretty much go by.
- 10:45We will receive about sixty thousand, you know, so right, And
- 10:48so we make the announcement to the church the next day to the three of
- 10:54our church people, text mes, uh, you know the production falls on
- 10:58Sunday. It feels strange that people have to buy ticket to come to service.
- 11:03I thought for a while, I said, you know what, scrap
- 11:07it. So I went back to her whole church the next day, I
- 11:09said, you know what, We're not going to charge anything. But you
- 11:13helped to invite your friend that will book the set because we are not looking
- 11:16at the amount of money. Will turned out to be quite a fair good
- 11:20production. Somewhere along the journey. Uh, the one that did the production
- 11:24came to me fast. If we would have truged ticket Pasa, we would
- 11:26have gotten, you know, fifty sixty thousand ingate. I kind of smile
- 11:31and say, you know that that's not important. And you know what,
- 11:33just about two days later, I received a call from one of our church
- 11:39members who passed away, and the sister actually caught me and then she said
- 11:43this, she said, pass the team, my sister. You know,
- 11:46in her will, her last words, she actually wanted to give a love
- 11:50give to the church, and she gave the exact amount that would have actually
- 11:56translated to if you were to sell the tickets. Okay, but you know
- 12:00how many of you we will always honor the last word, right that the
- 12:03person that say that last. If you look at it from a story plot
- 12:09point of view, however, you would understand that the last segment of the
- 12:13story or the narray pief actually makes sense of the entire story. Right.
- 12:18However, you watch end Game Pat one and decided not to watch part two
- 12:24anyone? None of us am I correct? Of course, all the you
- 12:28know, all the Transformers don't need to watch one means really okay, but
- 12:33the endgame means a lot because back one, if you watch it, Spider
- 12:37Man dies, so many of them dies. Right, it's only part two
- 12:41or the end of the story that makes sense of the rest of the So
- 12:46what I'm trying to say is so Matthew twenty eight is what makes sense of
- 12:50Mattel one to twenty seven. So if you can actually re read metthew one
- 12:56to twenty seven with Matthew twenty eight the last word, it gives you a
- 13:00very different lens. For example, Matthew twenty eight, Jesus told them,
- 13:03let's gather at Galilee again. Now, if you study the Bible carefully,
- 13:07you'll find out Matthew seven eight nineten somewhere where Jesus gave them the commandment to
- 13:13go to the house of Israel and to preach the gospel, he gave it
- 13:16a gallery, and Jesus has to almost re gave them a fresh commandment.
- 13:22So Matthew twenty eight story plot point of view is always the last story,
- 13:28the last portion that makes sense of the rest if you look at it from
- 13:31an instruction lens, which means that, for example, if I were to
- 13:35go away for a trip and then I'll go to all my kids. Right.
- 13:39I'll go to my elder son. Joe said, Joel, you know
- 13:41your math is very good. Please make sure you teach your sister math because
- 13:46it was myth to my daughter. It was math to my son. Okay.
- 13:50And I'll go to my second son. I said, Josh, you
- 13:52know, please please sleep early. And then you know I have to do
- 13:56the house show. And I go to my third son. I said,
- 13:58Jada, you know I want you to be able to be a good brother.
- 14:03I want you to take care of your younger sister. Make sure you
- 14:05send her to school. Right. And I go to my daughter and say,
- 14:07Joanna, could you finish all your meth and whatever? Right? Okay?
- 14:11And then after about two weeks when I came back, what do you
- 14:13think I would do at some point after giving them all the gift that I
- 14:18brought back. Sometime I'm going to ask Joel, did you teach Joanna meth
- 14:22am? I correct? And sometime I'm going to say, Joe, Ash,
- 14:26will you will you a good sun where you'll be responsible? Okay?
- 14:28Right, all of us will do that. Now the dam will come.
- 14:31The Bible says when we meet Jesus and I think Jesus is going to ask
- 14:35us did we make disciples? And I think that will be one question that
- 14:41were being asked. And sometimes I feel one of the things that we have
- 14:45done as the church is we we write songs about the great Commission, we
- 14:54do a drama about great commission, we do panton, we do you know
- 15:00what I said, We did everything, but but potentially not great commission.
- 15:05So it's just like I came back home and all my son and my daughters
- 15:09say that, you know what, we put on a skid for you,
- 15:13and the skid my son will saying I'm supposed to teach her. And they
- 15:16did everything. They write a song, they do a ski they do a
- 15:18big poster drama, Well come back there, you know. But what they
- 15:24didn't do was exactly did what I've asked them to do. All right?
- 15:30So, and then from the last anger is from a theological point of view,
- 15:33I'm not sure whether you're aware, but Jesus the Bible tells us that
- 15:37he rose from the Dad and he was with the disciples for about forty days.
- 15:41If you study the Bible carefully, you'll find that Jesus did only three
- 15:46things. Number one, he comforted all the disciples, He says, I
- 15:50am Jesus and the one that was with you. And then number two at
- 15:56the Bible, teusers that what do you do? He explained the Bible.
- 16:00So he took out the scriptures all the way from law, the prophets,
- 16:03sums. He helps them to see that it all speaks about him. And
- 16:07the third thing that he did for the forty days a different platform in the
- 16:12mountain, in the room, he told them about the Great Commission. So
- 16:17it was very clear there was one big, single focus all right now.
- 16:22And I realized, my I think about the Great Commission. The tipping point
- 16:26for Great Commission is really ownership. It really boils down to how much do
- 16:32we really own it? Does it express in the way you sing, you
- 16:37live your life, and how much we really really made to be part of
- 16:41who we are? All right now? I'm just going to go very quickly.
- 16:45So in the early days with the disciples, when Jesus asked them to
- 16:52go make disciples, and literally that's where they went. They went to all
- 16:56over And this is just a potential suggestion, and where did all the disciples
- 17:02go from Africa, Europe all the way to India and all of that and
- 17:07that's what the disciples actually did. Now I'm saying all of that to bring
- 17:11everybody to one single simple point. You know. So I've been a pastor
- 17:18for a long time, and throughout the journey I've I've obviously led many people
- 17:25to Christ along the journey. It was Paul who translated what does ownership towards
- 17:30the Gospel means? Okay? And I love the way Paul says this.
- 17:34You know, this afternoon, I'm not sure if we were to go to
- 17:37different one of you and say, hey, when it comes to great commission,
- 17:41what would be the phrase that we were attached to it. Maybe some
- 17:44of you would say that I try. Some of you would say that I'm
- 17:48too busy. Some of you will say that actually I don't know how to
- 17:52do it. Some of you will say that Passau just not my thing.
- 17:56I don't know what we say when you are as Paul, what would you
- 18:00say about ownership towards the Gospel? Robins one fourteen, He says, I'm
- 18:04actually obligated. I don't know whether any one of you ever felt you away
- 18:11to someone and I and I think when it comes to the gospel, you
- 18:18need to have a realization everything that has happened in your life. There is
- 18:25a gospel sense to it. I don't know how to explain this, but
- 18:29you know, when I was young, I come from my father is a
- 18:33My father is a Chinese school teacher, and then he's a disciplinarian. And
- 18:38when you when you have a Chinese traditional father and a disciplinarian at school,
- 18:45that's a very little combo when it comes to discipline. So when we were
- 18:51young, we were king almost every day every week. Sure I got some
- 18:56form of punishment money. Uh. And you know all our reports can't when
- 19:00we give our report, c we need to take the report ca entertain to
- 19:03my father. That's that's the way we grew up. I saw when we
- 19:07were young, my father forced all of us to learn Chinese. So I
- 19:11learned Chinese all the way to you know, from five you know Chinese ra
- 19:15van yinvern you know you fame and young home, you know all of that.
- 19:18Okay, So if you know Chinese, lie, So I've learned all
- 19:22of that. But you know what, I hated learning Chinese because it's difficult.
- 19:29But it makes sense to me. Many years ago, maybe about twelve
- 19:33years ago, when I was I made a trip to China, and then
- 19:38I was preaching the Gospel in China, and I will never forget when I
- 19:45was able to understand and after and able to preach in Chinese, I came
- 19:48back home. I called my father and with tears, I tell my dad,
- 19:53say, Dad, thank you so much for forcing me to learn my
- 19:56dream. And now I know what I land memory. This whole entire obligation
- 20:03of something that God has put in your life that you always maybe to a
- 20:08particular group of people, you owe it to your family, whatever, but
- 20:12obligated both to Greece and nong be both to the US. And then he
- 20:15says, this is why I'm so eager to preach the gospel. I'm not
- 20:19too sure whether we are as eago as Paul about. Paul was so eager
- 20:25to preach the gospel that you know the story Paul when he was in prison.
- 20:29He was so eager. He was so excited that the Bible tells us
- 20:32that the entire palace God actually get to hear the gospel. That was how
- 20:36eager he was. And finally he says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel
- 20:38because it is the power. You know, Paul, have this tree,
- 20:42little icll it the gold standard. There means any time you think about the
- 20:47Gospel, think of Paul, because the because Paul was the one that really
- 20:52took the Great Commission to the furthest ever in his lifetime. Okay, now,
- 20:57so I want to tell you a little bit of my story. Okay,
- 21:00So this is actually twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen was the year where I
- 21:06had the biggest breakthrough when it comes to the Great Commission. So prior before
- 21:10twenty seventeen, I'm am very faithful pastor. I worked for a company called
- 21:15Datacraft for ten years and then I owned my restaurant for about fourteen years.
- 21:21And so I was happily doing both, and I was rather I did well
- 21:26okay, both church and also in the backup place. All right, I
- 21:30did pretty okay, But I had this holy dissatisfaction, which means that God,
- 21:36if the good news is so good, why is it so difficult sometimes
- 21:40for people to get it. Maybe it's the message. Our message wasn't very
- 21:45clear. Maybe we were too fast to label people as singer you need to
- 21:49repent. Maybe repentance wasn't their language at all. Maybe it would have just
- 21:52gone another round. Maybe a mental health route might be better in today's world.
- 21:59You know, So I kind of wrestled or maybe is a messenger that
- 22:03did not live out because the good news is pretty incredible. God actually died
- 22:07for your sin. No other belief system anyone would have died for your sin.
- 22:12Am I correct? You know, So when I kind of wrestled that
- 22:15through. So twenty seventeen, what I did was I when to I went
- 22:22around trying to connect with as many as many people who actually do not know
- 22:29God. In our language, we call it unchurch. So I can tell
- 22:33you some of them. For example, this is actually Louis. She was
- 22:40I went back to ground zero. She was the first guest that come to
- 22:45church, and I decided to contact the guests. So by then the church
- 22:49was about maybe five hundred, you know, five five, six hundred,
- 22:53and normally for that kind of a size, the pastor won't connect. You
- 22:59were always outsode to another leader. Uh you know, obviously now we have
- 23:03we we again. I don't like, I don't like to say numbers,
- 23:07but even today I'm still connected with the guests. So I decided to go
- 23:12ground zero and I went So this is the first person that actually connected her
- 23:18name was Louis, which led her to Christ and then led the boyfriend or
- 23:23husband to be to Christ, did their wedding and they migrated to Australia.
- 23:29When I was in Melbourne, they hosted me for two weeks and uh,
- 23:33and it was so honoring because he literally bought a spot car just to bring
- 23:37me around. Uh. And he says, is only for you one okay,
- 23:41and and you know, so I was just so honored. And all
- 23:44of them, so all of them was just friends. This is actually our
- 23:48architect. Uh. And the architect was so fearful to come for a session.
- 23:53And this is a session we call discovering God. After God, she
- 23:56actually brought this person which she actually accept Christ, not him. So I
- 24:02started just to meet as many people that I do not know, including the
- 24:08counselor for my son's education. I just meet as many and I started this
- 24:14thing called a discovering God, which is one thing to talk about how to
- 24:18connect the dog who God is. Okay, So twenty seventeen I gathered them.
- 24:26By twenty eighteen middle the group grew bigger and they then invited their friends
- 24:33and a whole bunch of people and at the end of the day, we
- 24:37have all these people who are the one that accept the Christ, Okay,
- 24:41all kinds of different backgrounds. So today, for example, this guy is
- 24:45Zeth. I don't know whether Zeth and Kelmin owns Verdin, which is the
- 24:51fastest growing solar panel for household right now. They just broke the Malaysian record,
- 24:56so they got saved with twenty eighteenth to date are life group leaders,
- 25:03okay, and some of them and they were only three years old. For
- 25:04example, Zeth and kell mean a very important leader of ours right now.
- 25:08He's our preacher for Chinese Church and he's only three years old Christian. He
- 25:15leads about thirty to forty people. He runs all our PMC pre marital and
- 25:22I can go one by one, and for example it's one of our leaders.
- 25:27She has a run about to three life groups and they were all very
- 25:33very young Christians. So it was really a joy to see and and through
- 25:40that entire incident of just going back to ground zero, relearning what it means
- 25:45to make as many and friends as possible, and literally from then to date,
- 25:53just as a personal just being personal, I think I've seen over two
- 25:59hundred and fifty people accept the Christ for the first time. You're not even
- 26:03talking about people who backslided. Ah. And just last week yourself and another
- 26:07three people who accept the Christ. So just this whole thing about Greek commission
- 26:15became something that is very very personal to my heart. And I always want
- 26:23the church to know that's the main thing, you know, as I come
- 26:27to Generations Church today, and I know and this hut, I know,
- 26:33making disciples is big in this place. And when we talk about making disciples,
- 26:38oftentimes we think about one thing, to take a Christian and make them
- 26:42a better Christians, which is nothing wrong with that. And sometimes in the
- 26:48Christian babble world, we will have so many things that we can excavate and
- 26:52learn no end, which is why in the Book of Vacs it tells us
- 26:56when Jesus told the disciples, is go therefore and make the disciples x one
- 27:00eight, But nobody went until x eight one because of dispersion, because of
- 27:06persecution. Then everybody went and took the gospel right. And can you imagine
- 27:10if you were in the early Church, you have so much to excavate.
- 27:15Just the teaching itself, there's no end. Mother Mary, teach about how
- 27:19to raise your son as God, the best parenting class. Everybody should sign
- 27:27for it. Peter will come and teach you how to walk on water.
- 27:30Don't need to swim anymore, right, I mean every one of them,
- 27:36they will have enough. So something about I think as we exist as a
- 27:41church, the more we exist as a church, the more we need to
- 27:45think about people who actually do not know God. So my whole church knows
- 27:51that I will leave the ninety nine for one. And that doesn't mean I
- 27:53don't bother about ninety nine. I spent a lot of time, but I
- 27:56make the greatest and highest priority just to be able to reach people who actually
- 28:03do not know God. Now I want to I want to tell you a
- 28:04little bit of this. Jenna, right, Jenna was the girl that you
- 28:08saw earlier as Jenna. And this is Shalle involved them except the christ uh
- 28:14and the story was this okay. Now, this is how both Jenna and
- 28:17Shalyn come to our church one day. Actually they were they were in us.
- 28:21This picture was taken us. This is this is Shlen's son. His
- 28:26name is Samuel. Samuel. One day he went into Coma in States and
- 28:33for about a week class he was in Coma. When he woke up from
- 28:36Coma, he told the mom, he says, Mom, he says,
- 28:40he says, just before I went to Coma, the last thing I did
- 28:44was I visited a French church, a Baptist church in US and then and
- 28:48then he says, maybe maybe we should think about going to church and explore
- 28:52if there is a god. So so the mom they were in US.
- 28:56Now that Samuel is well, so the mom flew back to Malaysia. When
- 29:00the mom flew back to Malaysia, she wanted to fulfill the son's requests of
- 29:07going to check out church. So she went around asking and then they say,
- 29:11oh, there is this every Nation church in Pucho. So she came.
- 29:17And when she came for her age, she needs a driver, a
- 29:22chauffeur. So which is which is Jena the daughter? So when they first
- 29:26came, the daughter actually dropped the mother and then she's going to do facial
- 29:32and then she's going to do other things. But because our service is about
- 29:34one hour one and a half hours max, not enough time for facial.
- 29:40So after a while I saw Jena and the mom sits together. So this
- 29:45is about one month a class. The mom, Jena Chalin came to me
- 29:51one day she said, I passed you know, I've got a lot of
- 29:53questions. He says, I really want to meet up with you to talk.
- 29:57Okay. I said sure, I said, no problems in so I
- 30:00kind of opened up my schedule. I said, hey, you know what,
- 30:03why don't you come over to my house for lunch two sundays from now?
- 30:07Okay? So the two sundays from now, we had lunch in my
- 30:08house and we had chicken rice. I'll never forget because it was the longest
- 30:12chicken rice conversation ever. She sat in my house almost two and a half
- 30:17to three hours. So she came, we had chicken rice, and she
- 30:21asked me non stop question about God. Just keep on asking me, what
- 30:25about this? What this? You know Buddhism saidn't. So I was just
- 30:29finding my time and throughout all this while Jena was sitting down there looking at
- 30:34a handful. So after the conversation, I turned to Jena. I said,
- 30:38Jenna, any any thought about God? And then she said, you
- 30:44need thing I know about gods? Oh my god. There was an exact
- 30:47word. She said, you need to know about goys? Oh my god.
- 30:49And I went, oh my god, I'm just kidding, okay,
- 30:52uh and and and then and then she said. I said, okay,
- 30:57I said, Jenna, is there one thing I can pray for you?
- 31:02She thought about it. She said, hey, you know what, Pasa,
- 31:03I will be moving to you as at some point after one or two
- 31:07years. And she's a physiotherapist. She said, I got a problem.
- 31:12All that I've learned and graduated as a physiotherapist the American will recognize. So
- 31:18I have to redo everything against it. Would you ask God to help me?
- 31:23Say sure, so just pray a very simple prayer God, you help
- 31:27her certificate. You know, all of that gives favor of God. And
- 31:30then we ended the chicken rice. Okay, we we we ended. We
- 31:34finished. The mother hasn't said yes to God because the mother has a lot
- 31:37of questions. And that About two weeks later, I received a call from
- 31:45Jenna. Jenna called me. She says, passa, passa. You wouldn't
- 31:48believe this six paper that I that I that I had for my physio and
- 31:56as what you asked me, I appeal, he sayss fur was approved.
- 32:00He says the other two more if I finish it with a certain degree with
- 32:05the you know, because the external paper, if I finished with certain marks
- 32:07it will be. He says, this is what a turn around. And
- 32:12then she looked at me and says, well, Passa, thank you for
- 32:15praying. So I said great. Then obviously I invited Jenna by then to
- 32:21come for a discovering God. About two weeks later, the day we start
- 32:25out discovering God, she caught me. She says, I'm gonna bit confused.
- 32:30Said what's the confusion? She said. I went around and told my
- 32:35friend, actually, uh, I gotten this appeal, you know all of
- 32:39that. And my friend told me, he said, you not God.
- 32:42It's actually the law of attraction. Have you how maver? You know heard
- 32:46of the law of attraction? Now? I don't know as the law of
- 32:49attraction. All I know is I'm attracted to my wife. My wife is
- 32:52attracted to me. Okay, So I said, I said, what is
- 32:55the law of attraction? Then she said, Passa, you never heard a
- 32:58law of attraction? I said, I do know. Say a lot of
- 33:00attrection. Mess you like something and then you're getting and that's a lot of
- 33:01attraction, she said. Then she told me I'm confused. People tell me
- 33:07it's not God. It's a lot of attraction. I said, okay,
- 33:10I said, would you come half an hour earlier before our session of discovery.
- 33:14God, why don't we talk about it? And I still remember Jenna
- 33:16comes, she sat am I living room. I said, Jenna, what
- 33:22do you think is a lot of attraction? I said, Jenna, let
- 33:24me reheurst the entire story for you, and I look at Jenna, Jenna.
- 33:28It all started with your brother Samon was in coma. You went the
- 33:30woke up from coma. He told your mom needs to go to visit the
- 33:34church. And then your mom came to came back to Kao looking for a
- 33:37church. She found out to remember you send your mom and then you could
- 33:39not have time. You go for facial and you came here again. And
- 33:42then one day your mom bum me to me and then she said you're going
- 33:44to have chicken rice and be a chicken? How many you wa wash?
- 33:45And then right remember the guy that talked like that. I was just going
- 33:47around and it was just I was rehustying the whole thing. And then you
- 33:51know, you came to my house for the chicken rice and say, oh
- 33:52my god, oh my god, oh my God. And then I prayed
- 33:54to oh my God, oh my God, answer you a question? You
- 33:57know and then all this, and then I said, I said, Jenna,
- 34:00come on, you and a degree person. You tell me, is
- 34:04it the law of attraction? Or God was at work in your life?
- 34:07Jenna heard everything she's passle. She said, has to be God has to
- 34:10be gone, you know. She then gave her life to Jesus. And
- 34:15then she actually became the first life group leader out of the whole badge of
- 34:21people. And I tell you she's ran out in us and I will never
- 34:27forget. So when we first started the life group where she became a life
- 34:30group leader, so as all these people got said, what I did was
- 34:34I just I just fend them out to many groups. So along the journey,
- 34:38they came back to me says, past, could you could you lead
- 34:40a life group because we know you. We're not comfortable. I said,
- 34:44ok, I said, we do a live group. So we did our
- 34:47first live group. Okay, our first life group. Refunny because after dinner
- 34:53we got smoking break because three of them are chain smoker. So after the
- 35:02after our dinner, before group start, can we go smoking first as they
- 35:06can? Okay, So all of them will go out there, they'll smoke.
- 35:08I'll also be there, of course, I don't smoke, so I
- 35:12will be there and and then miraculous six months later, one day they said,
- 35:17you know what, I don't think God is happy without smoking. I
- 35:21didn't. We need to stop uh And they went for a victory. We
- 35:23get all three of them immediately quit smoking. Okay, But our first slide
- 35:28book was led by Jenna. She is such a young Christian and I still
- 35:35remember it was nine months down the road. She was leading the group.
- 35:37And then they celebrated me and my wife birthday November. When we were in
- 35:42the group. She sat down there she said, you know what, pass
- 35:44the team. You are November, your wife is November. You both are
- 35:47scorpio or no, explain why you guys are so. I was like,
- 35:51no, no, no, no, we don't believe in that. Okay,
- 35:53Ah I did have said no no Jenna. We said, oh you
- 35:57mean we cannot believe in that? Okay, you know we we were so
- 36:00messy, but you know what, there's so much joy. There are so
- 36:07much tears. There was so much thing that God did with a whole bunch
- 36:10of people who actually know God so little, but love so much. And
- 36:19and we piece together the group. But we piece together the group. I
- 36:22told I told everybody in the group, I said, this life group will
- 36:24only exist for one year. Then we will no longer be in existence.
- 36:28They said, hal, that's a why I said, no, no,
- 36:30no, we exist in a different way by then. And every one of
- 36:35you leader life group last year. About five years later, Jena four or
- 36:39five years later she came back from us. The first question she asked when
- 36:44she met up with me, Se says, Pastor, did everybody lead a
- 36:47new life group? You know what, the whole idea of great commissions vers
- 36:52simple just being faithful to show the love of God to every one that comes
- 37:00across the path. And as you are faithfully doing that, you see God
- 37:06and work. You see God and work. You see God work. Want
- 37:09to encourage generations. You know, church exists not just for Christian just really
- 37:19exists for a lot of people that only heard of Oh My God. So
- 37:24that we are able to help them piece together some substance about who this oh
- 37:32my God is, that this God will be the God that will help them
- 37:37to navigate through every season of the I can't good, Amen. I want
- 37:42to encourage you as you go about. I love I love the name of
- 37:46this church. I love the gift things that God has given to this church,
- 37:51and we are here to cheer you. We are here to work with
- 37:53you, We're here to bless you. We are here to do everything we
- 37:57can to encourage all of you so that together we can make many, many,
- 38:04many disciples for Jesus. Got goody man. Thank you for listening to
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