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Ep. 628: MeatEater Radio Live! A Goose Calling Champ, Tapeworm Cysts, and Toxic Sludge · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell Us. Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Meater Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain
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  Speaker 2: Time on November twenty first, and we're live from Meet
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  Speaker 2: Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart,
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  Speaker 2: joined today by Jannis Putellus and Corey Hawkins. On today's show,
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  Speaker 2: we'll interview the three time world goose calling champion John Walls.
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  Speaker 2: Then we have a rought report from Mark Kenyon, followed
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  Speaker 2: by one minute fishing with Seth Morris. After that, we'll
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  Speaker 2: have a chettiquet about Finders Keepers Rules. Then we'll interview
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  Speaker 2: Jared Sullivan about his new book, Valley Solo, and finally
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  Speaker 2: we'll look at a listener's drunken tattoo of penguins. But first,
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  Speaker 2: Cory's going to regale us with tails from his recent
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  Speaker 2: elk hunt.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, thanks, Spencer. Finally harvested my general Montana bull
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  Speaker 3: elk last week.
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  Speaker 1: How many years did that take?
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  Speaker 3: Felt like multiple? But it was a long archery season.
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  Speaker 3: I passed up a lot of elk and had a
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  Speaker 3: lot of close encounters with my bow as you did
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 1: No, you got one last year, didn't you will your bow?
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  Speaker 3: I'm two years in a row filling my general elk
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  Speaker 3: tag with a bowl. Yeah nice, but yeah. I went
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  Speaker 3: out with a couple of colleagues actually to try and
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  Speaker 3: harvest a cow for a non resident colleague of ours
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  Speaker 3: who had a cow tag, and all we saw were bulls.
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  Speaker 3: So three bulls come up over the hill and I
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  Speaker 3: was able to drop one of them that stopped at
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  Speaker 3: four hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Yards in a new spot for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's a spot I've hunted before, but it's one of
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  Speaker 3: our colleagues secret go to late season elk spots that
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  Speaker 3: he was.
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  Speaker 2: Held a few people in the office.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were blindfolded until the sun came up. And
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  Speaker 3: then as soon as the sun came up, looking through
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  Speaker 3: the snow, I saw three bulls come over the hill
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  Speaker 3: and it was pretty hard to say no this late
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  Speaker 3: in the season. So filled my freezer.
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  Speaker 2: What was the one that you killed? His size versus
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  Speaker 2: the other two?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't get a great look at any
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  Speaker 3: of them. It happened so fast they came up over
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  Speaker 3: the hill. At first I thought they were other hunters
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  Speaker 3: on the skyline. It was just it was dark enough
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  Speaker 3: and there was a blizzard happened and snow was blowing sideways,
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  Speaker 3: and they were probably five hundred and fifty yards. At
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  Speaker 3: one point they saw us, and they actually skirted across
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  Speaker 3: the mountain side closer to us, and I shot mine
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  Speaker 3: at like four fifteen or something uphill twenty mile an
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  Speaker 3: hour wind. Felt great about the shot. Yeah, just had
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  Speaker 3: a window, and the one in the back, the elk
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  Speaker 3: in the back, stopped to look at us one last time.
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  Speaker 3: And that was the last decision he ever made.
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  Speaker 2: Jihanny, you should close your ears, you should close years
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  Speaker 2: for this. But I recently declared Cory the best elk
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  Speaker 2: hunter in the office. You think that's true?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: We kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look at that face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't agree.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: make the guy feel bad. If you gave him that title,
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  Speaker 1: then he shouldn't, you know, take wrong with it.
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  Speaker 2: Make a counter argument.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't really want to do this right now.
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  Speaker 2: Because who would you say? Okay, if Corey's won.
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  Speaker 3: What makes him or one B kill themselves?
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  Speaker 2: And to be clear, Corey didn't make this declaration, I
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  Speaker 2: know declaration.
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  Speaker 1: Then now you're asking me to tell you why he's
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  Speaker 1: not the best one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass. I like Corey my buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well who's who's one? B if Corey's one?
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  Speaker 1: A Oh boy, I haven't thought about this.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think we have a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: elk hunters.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The thing about being a good elk hunter or what
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  Speaker 1: can it make you seem? What was going on over here? Folks,
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  Speaker 1: you're live? Put your headphones actually here. I never cut
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  Speaker 1: to this camera.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna cut to Kurn's camera here for your sex
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  Speaker 6: so she can explain herself.
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  Speaker 1: There she is.
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  Speaker 7: I was on Instagram looking at our Meat Eater live promo,
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  Speaker 7: just working and.
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  Speaker 8: Jimmy's first olt.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations Jimmy, Yah and Karen bailed out Yanni from having
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  Speaker 2: to talk about the best No.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, I mean, it's just so gray
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  Speaker 1: and subjective because what can often seem like someone is
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  Speaker 1: a great elk hunter is because they have extreme knowledge
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  Speaker 1: about a certain area. Right Like, I know a guy
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  Speaker 1: that kills a bowl every single year, and he probably
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  Speaker 1: kills that bowl within five hundred yards of the spot
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  Speaker 1: he killed the bull the prior year, You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Does that make him a great elk hunter.
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  Speaker 1: He kills a bowl every year, but does it make
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  Speaker 1: him a great elk hunter? You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I think you just really have to look at
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  Speaker 1: like a wide you know, like what's the entire you know,
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  Speaker 1: elk hunting sort of repertoire experience, Like how many different
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  Speaker 1: states has a guy killed a bull elk? You know,
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  Speaker 1: how many different weapons? I don't know a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Think think through about that, be think Corey he's a
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  Speaker 1: good elk hunter for sure. I mean I've hunted elk
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  Speaker 1: with him for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Now my life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you were successful on one of those outings.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, good point, Corey.
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  Speaker 9: Spencer.
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  Speaker 3: I heard you just harvested a big game animals.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, you know. Tyler says, congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you? Tyler wurts uh, thank you?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Who's he saying congratulations to Spencer?
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  Speaker 2: Comma, congrats on the Nebraska mule deer I just killed
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  Speaker 2: My biggest was.
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  Speaker 1: That place that happened while you think, Well, that happened
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  Speaker 1: while Corey was saying, Hey, I heard you just killed
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  Speaker 1: a buck, and there was already a comment I had it.
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  Speaker 6: Tyler probably saw it on Spencer's Instagram and.
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  Speaker 2: Now eleven six I see.
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  Speaker 1: It was a nice buck.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. That was my biggest mule ever hunting Western Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten many days of the mule deer rut
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  Speaker 2: like that, where it was just like bucks were on
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  Speaker 2: their feet all the time. Every group of does very
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  Speaker 2: reckless and sometimes like deer hunters can curse the run
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  Speaker 2: that it makes things too random, where it puts deer
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  Speaker 2: in places you wouldn't expect to see them.
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  Speaker 1: Not for mule deer, though.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not for mule deer. And I'm not nearly as
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  Speaker 2: experienced at hunting muli's as I am whitetail, but there
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  Speaker 2: can be a point in the white tail rut where
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  Speaker 2: you're like, all the bucks are somewhere else, in a
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  Speaker 2: place that they aren't normally found. They're bedded down in
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  Speaker 2: a grassy fence row right now with some dough. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're sitting in a wide open egg field that was
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  Speaker 2: just cut and it just doesn't make sense because it's
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  Speaker 2: the rut. This was the best mule deer rut though,
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  Speaker 2: that I've ever gotten to experience. It's like just what
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  Speaker 2: you want. Every group of does had a big buck
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  Speaker 2: they were reckless, they were on their feets, they were
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  Speaker 2: visible at all hours of the day, and it was
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  Speaker 2: just a ton of fun. So I was happy I
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  Speaker 2: got to experience that killed the biggest mu leaue, one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest mu leaus I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Now, was that the first decent buck you saw? Because
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  Speaker 1: You're not much of a passer, and so I'm wondering, like,
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  Speaker 1: was it so good that you were, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let a few of these medium bucks go.
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  Speaker 2: That day, I had seen about fifty deer. I killed
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  Speaker 2: that buck probably fifteen minutes into shooting lights.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 2: It happened quick, and I saw a handful of other bucks.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have passed on some bucks that were a
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  Speaker 2: little smaller than him, but that that was an easy
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  Speaker 2: decision to make. I passed on a few smaller bucks
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  Speaker 2: the day before. But it's also I have permission from
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  Speaker 2: a rancher in Nebraska who has a lot of ground,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm fortunate to look at a lot of deer
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  Speaker 2: when I'm there, so I know that that bucks like
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  Speaker 2: this exist in places where I can hunt, and in
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  Speaker 2: that case, it makes it easier to, you know, wait
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  Speaker 2: for a big one.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about some lockdown going on. If
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  Speaker 1: you live in Bosman, Montana right now, you can drive
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  Speaker 1: just about anywhere in this town and find a white
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  Speaker 1: tail buck down on a dough.
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  Speaker 2: Give me an example of where you've seen him.
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  Speaker 1: Where. Yeah, pick a golf course in this town. You
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  Speaker 1: can see it there. I don't know what's the one
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  Speaker 1: on Kegie is a value view?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one's like kind of private. That that's
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  Speaker 2: a weird golf course.
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  Speaker 1: But I got an invite actually yesterday to go play.
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  Speaker 1: And when I get invited in this summer, I'll have you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not to play yesterday, but I got the invite yesterday
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  Speaker 1: for next summer. But when I go play, I'll be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: can we bring another guy? I'll bring you along. You
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  Speaker 1: do that, I would just say, cagy, yeah, just if
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  Speaker 1: you just run kegye And if you don't see a
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  Speaker 1: buck lockdown on a dough, then your eyes don't work.
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  Speaker 2: Last thing here, Yanni, before we do our first interview,
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  Speaker 2: your dad has a correction or something to add about
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  Speaker 2: thermals from the thermal discussion we had when he when he.
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  Speaker 1: Called, he was pretty fired up. He's like, you guys
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  Speaker 1: almost had it right, oh, And I'm like, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: what did we miss? And like I said, this is
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  Speaker 1: the reason that I was fussing a pill a little
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  Speaker 1: bit when he picked the thermal thing, because I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is like a three hour show. We can discuss thermals.
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  Speaker 1: But my dad said the important part that we miss
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  Speaker 1: that might help people understand why this whole thermal thing
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  Speaker 1: is working and why it actually does happen on flat ground.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't know that he got me for saying
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  Speaker 1: it really only works when in hilly country you're on mountains,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't quite correct. You maybe experienced this hunting white
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  Speaker 1: tailed deer in flat country. But so the first part
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  Speaker 1: is that what is it that's actually getting cold or
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  Speaker 1: when it gets in the air gets cold, why does
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  Speaker 1: it sink? Right, Well, it gets denser because the moisture
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  Speaker 1: in there, right, that's what's causing it to sink. When
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  Speaker 1: it warms up, that moisture in there is becoming less
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  Speaker 1: dense and causing it to rise, which is why if
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  Speaker 1: you were in a tree stand on completely flat ground
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  Speaker 1: with zero wind you might experience it where on a
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  Speaker 1: super cold morning before the air has started to heat up,
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  Speaker 1: that your scent would be dropping straight to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Not good. But then maybe later in the morning, just
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  Speaker 1: you know, an hour later, as the day starts to warm,
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  Speaker 1: the air is actually just moving straight up above you,
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  Speaker 1: and so you'd almost be invincible when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: like scent because there's no wind blowing it northeast west, south,
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  Speaker 1: and the thermal would just be picking it straight up
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  Speaker 1: and taking it up into the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think we covered it now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, do you.
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  Speaker 2: Pot is Popayanni listening right now?
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  Speaker 1: You thin no? He's in deer camp in Wisconsin right now,
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  Speaker 1: and there's poor service there.
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  Speaker 2: So Popayanni, when you hear this, you let Yanni.
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  Speaker 1: Know if forgot it, if I got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, moving on, joining us on the line.
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  Speaker 2: First is the three time World goose Calling Champion John Walls.
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  Speaker 2: John just won the Super Bowl of Goose Calling for
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  Speaker 2: the third straight year. John, Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 9: Hey guys, thanks for having man. Really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: John. First thing, tell us about the competition. How do
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  Speaker 2: you get to the World Championship? How are the callers judged?
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  Speaker 2: How do you prep for this thing?
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  Speaker 10: So the World Championship Goose Calling contest is open to
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  Speaker 10: any caller. You don't have to you know, be invited,
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  Speaker 10: have an inmitation, or win a contest throughout the year
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  Speaker 10: to be entered into the world goose. Anybody can show
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  Speaker 10: up and blow in it. How it's judged, You got
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  Speaker 10: five judges. You have to tell a story to The
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  Speaker 10: judges are a questioned, they can't see you. The contest
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  Speaker 10: is made up with three rounds and they do the
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  Speaker 10: Olympic scoring system. So the first rounds judge seventy to
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  Speaker 10: eighty points, second round is eighty to ninety, third round
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  Speaker 10: is ninety two one hundred.
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  Speaker 9: Each judge will give a caller a score.
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  Speaker 10: Once all five scores are tallied, they'll throw out the
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  Speaker 10: highest and the lowest score.
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  Speaker 9: Keep it three in the middle, and those points accumulate
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  Speaker 9: through three.
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  Speaker 10: Rounds and at the end of the third round, if
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  Speaker 10: you're lucky enough to make it, if you have the
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  Speaker 10: most points.
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  Speaker 9: Here the winner. Yeah, pretty, it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: And for the judges, do you think that their ear
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  Speaker 2: can pick up on who that caller is? Do you
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  Speaker 2: think they know this is John, that's Tim, that's Bob,
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  Speaker 2: or does it all sound you know, very different to them.
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  Speaker 9: It depends.
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  Speaker 10: So like for the World Contest, you have judges from
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  Speaker 10: all across the country kind of, but there was a
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  Speaker 10: few local ones and they've been doing it long enough
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  Speaker 10: to where you know, certain callers have certain styles, certain sounds.
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  Speaker 10: They can pick up on it as me as a
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  Speaker 10: as a competitor. I know, if I was judging the
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  Speaker 10: World Goose seventy five percent of the callers while they
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  Speaker 10: were doing their warm up, I can tell you who
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  Speaker 10: they are.
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  Speaker 9: Wow, which you know it kind of there's a curve
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  Speaker 9: all into things.
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  Speaker 10: You deal with a little bit of politics there with
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  Speaker 10: judging a little bit, but I mean with social media
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  Speaker 10: and just all this content and stuff of you know,
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  Speaker 10: people blowing Goose calls, it's become that way.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I got a question how close do they put
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  Speaker 1: the judges from the callers, because my gripe sometimes with
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  Speaker 1: some of these contests is if the caller is blowing
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  Speaker 1: like towards the audience and the judges are behind them,
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  Speaker 1: or if even if they're directly in front of them,
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  Speaker 1: versus like I always feel like the judges should be
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  Speaker 1: at the back of the room, which is sort of
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  Speaker 1: the distance that a goose would hear you're calling from
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  Speaker 1: right and adding that more air between their ears and
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  Speaker 1: your call would sort of I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 1: it would help for them to pick out the nuances.
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  Speaker 1: So where do they put the call the judges?
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  Speaker 9: So that's changed over the years.
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  Speaker 10: The World Goose Call Championships held in a high school auditorium,
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  Speaker 10: and you know that auditorium was built for you know, acoustics, sounds,
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  Speaker 10: But to me, I swear that stage was built for
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  Speaker 10: contest goose callers because it's just absolutely incredible and they're
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  Speaker 10: the sound, the echo, just everything about it's awesome.
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  Speaker 9: For the longest time, when you.
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  Speaker 10: Walk out on stage, the judges were sitting behind you,
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  Speaker 10: and then up till this year, for about four years
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  Speaker 10: the judges were right on the other side of the state,
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  Speaker 10: so you're pretty much standing right in front of them.
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  Speaker 9: Obviously they can't see you.
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  Speaker 10: But this year they put the judges in the far
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  Speaker 10: back corner of the auditorium. And there's pros and cons
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  Speaker 10: to it, but overall, I think it was better. Like
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  Speaker 10: you said, you just get a better overall sound. The
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  Speaker 10: way the sound echoes off the walls in the room,
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  Speaker 10: it's just a little bit better.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, the judges were in the far back corner
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  Speaker 9: of the auditorium this year.
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  Speaker 2: And do you show up there knowing the routine that
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  Speaker 2: you're going to do? Note for note and call for call.
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  Speaker 10: I do yup up to my warm up? I mean
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  Speaker 10: everything about it. I know every single note of my routine.
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  Speaker 10: I know exactly where I need to take my breast,
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  Speaker 10: how much of a breath I need to do. I've
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  Speaker 10: been doing this for eighteen years, so it's kind of
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  Speaker 10: like second nature to me now. But I'm definitely a
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  Speaker 10: note for no caller. There's certain callers that are, you know,
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  Speaker 10: sequence callers are just just kind of, you know, wing
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  Speaker 10: it when they're up there. But me, I know exactly
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  Speaker 10: where I need to be and when and what I
• 15:07
  Speaker 10: need to be doing now.
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  Speaker 2: Phil robertson one set, and it's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 2: quotes that that revolves around hunting. He said that a
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  Speaker 2: live mallard wouldn't place in a duck calling competition. Can
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  Speaker 2: you explain what he meant by that and how calling
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: in a competition is different than calling in the field.
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  Speaker 10: Sure, yeah, he's He's absolutely right too, especially with the
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  Speaker 10: duck calling. It definitely has its place in the goose
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  Speaker 10: calling world.
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  Speaker 4: Too.
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  Speaker 10: For competition style duck and goose calling, it's not really
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  Speaker 10: trying to sound like the real bird.
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  Speaker 9: It's an operating contest.
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  Speaker 10: You know, how well a caller can operate the call,
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  Speaker 10: push the call to the limit, you know, have confidence
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  Speaker 10: in it, having flow and speed, and just showing your
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  Speaker 10: overall you know, ability to do everything you can on
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  Speaker 10: a call. But there is contests out there that they're
• 15:56
  Speaker 10: called live contests. They're a little bit shorter in time,
• 16:00
  Speaker 10: and the main goal in those contests are to sound
• 16:03
  Speaker 10: like a live hen mal or a couple of Kennedys.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And do you still get humbled by geese when you
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: go hunting? Or do you fool them every single time?
• 16:12
  Speaker 10: Now there's days man, well they they'll just fly right
• 16:16
  Speaker 10: by and flip me the bird literally.
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Three straight wins at the World Goose Calling Competition for
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: short read that is something that has never been done before.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: What do you do next?
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna go win a fourth next year?
• 16:29
  Speaker 10: So I'm officially retired. Part of the World Duck and
• 16:33
  Speaker 10: Goose Calling Championship rules is if you win three, you're retired,
• 16:38
  Speaker 10: So I'm officially done. You know, people have their opinions
• 16:41
  Speaker 10: on that. I think it's pretty cool. It's been that
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: way forever. You know, you shoot for winning three and
• 16:47
  Speaker 10: then you're done. But I'm gonna miss it, you know, obviously.
• 16:50
  Speaker 10: But I am able to blow in the Champion of
• 16:53
  Speaker 10: Champions contests. So everybody that's won at least one World
• 16:56
  Speaker 10: Goose is able to blow in this contest, and they
• 16:59
  Speaker 10: hold that every five years, and actually it's next year
• 17:02
  Speaker 10: in twenty twenty five, so I'll be able to compete
• 17:05
  Speaker 10: in that, and then, uh, if I'm fortunate enough to
• 17:08
  Speaker 10: win that, I'm officially done competition goose calling on the
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: world stage.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna be cheering for you. Now, what what
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: makes you better at calling geese than everyone else in
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: this competition?
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: You know, I don't. I wouldn't say how I'm better.
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: It's just how I've convinced those judges that, you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 10: I sounded the best that day.
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 17:29
  Speaker 10: It's subjective, opinion based, you know, So it's it's just
• 17:34
  Speaker 10: I try to stand out a little bit more than
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: everybody else. Like I said, the judges are from all
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: different parts of the country, and they're used to hunting
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: different subspecies of geese which sound different. You know, geese
• 17:46
  Speaker 10: are different from all over the world. Even though they're
• 17:47
  Speaker 10: all goose, they're they're a little bit different. So just
• 17:50
  Speaker 10: having different cadences, different tones and stuff. I just try
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: to throw a little bit of everything in my routine
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: just to cover all the bases and and try to
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: convince them that I sounded the best of that day.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: John, We got a lot of people in the chat
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: today who were asking for tips. So give us some
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: tips that goose callers of all skill levels could use.
• 18:11
  Speaker 10: You know, if you're trying to advance, I would definitely
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: try to get one on one, you know, lessons from somebody.
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: There's tons of stuff on social media on you know,
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: people showing you tips and tricks on how to blow
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: a goose call. But you know, listening to a video
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: it helps, but having somebody one on one there that
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: can see what you're doing, give you a little tips.
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: And tricks right in person is so much better.
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: And you know, even me, I mean, yeah, I'm the
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: world champion this, you know for the third time, but
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm no better than the next guy.
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: I'm still learning stuff on a goose call to this day.
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: You know, different cadences, different notes, different just all sorts
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: of different things. This thing as an instrument, it's like
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: a guitar. You know, there's so many different things you
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: can do. Just try to be as proficient as you
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: can on on a goose call. I mean, you're cheating
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: yourself if you know, you're just kind of hanging out
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: and being mediocre.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: You know, Can you play for us an award winning
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: goose calling sequence? Before you do that, explain what we're
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: about to hear.
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'll do. I'll do a little sequence for you.
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: I'll start off kind of going slow. So in the
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: world goose, you're you're telling the judges a story in
• 19:22
  Speaker 10: a in a minute and thirty seconds of a flock
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: of geese off in the distance, you get their attention,
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: The geese come to you, say you or your buddy
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: moves in the blind, the geese flair. You got to
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: call them back and get them back into decoys and
• 19:33
  Speaker 10: you know, get them to the ground. So I'll kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: of start off slow, get fast, get slow again.
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: I'll do an abbreviated part of a routine for you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: Real quick, might be might be a little loud.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: What wow, beautiful, that's amazing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That sounds like multiple.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Geese at once. I don't know how you're doing that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I feel spoiled. We just got an exclusive show, uh
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: from the best goose caller in the world. Congrats again
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: for doing something that's never been done before by winning
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: three straight World goose calling championships on the short read,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: enjoy your retirement and thanks for joining us.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Appreciate it, guys, Thank you very much. You'll have a
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: good one.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Thanks John.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks John.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: People in the chatter as saying that they're gonna take
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: this part of our podcast and just play it outdoors.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: That might work.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Make sure that's legal in your state before you do it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That gave me goosebumps.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Wow, I've got a lot of honking for a bonking
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: shout outs in the comments as well.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I was disappointed I wasn't here that day for that tattoo.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: That was so good.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: It's it's great. Every time I see a goose now
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: just walking around town, it's that's the only thing I
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: think of it. It's the only thing I about a thinking
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: for the rest of my life.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sad I missed it. What episode was that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Somebody had a tattoo that I don't know if they
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: said they regretted it, but they shared it with us,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and it was it was like a crudely drawn, childlike
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: effort at a making a goose. And then it said
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: honking for a bonkin. I don't think you need any context.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I think people wanted context, but you don't need any
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: context for that. It's just downright funny, all right. Our
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: next segment is the rot Report.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Well we should find tail run.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I can't believe it's already here.
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: You shit, du tasu bye, cause your kids, goodbye, decide
• 22:09
  Speaker 13: to desert you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that rut rule. The rout report is
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: where Mark Kenyon gives us a white tail hunting forecast
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: for each region. Take it away, Mark.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon here from Wired Hunt, coming at
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you with another whitetail rut report. And as you can see,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I am reporting from my home office, and that's because
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: my own personal rut marathon is tailing off, as is
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the rut for many parts of the country. Now the
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: southern United States is a little bit unique, but for
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the northern two thirds of the country, we are now
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: coming down off the bell curve of running activity. Over
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the last two weeks. There's been a lot of seeking,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of chasing. The peak of breeding happened for
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: most states right around the middle of November. We are
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: tailing off of that, so there are fewer do available
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: to breed now than there were, and because of hunting,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: especially gun seasons opening, there's also a lot fewer bucks
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: out there to do the seeking and the chasing and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: all that kind of good stuff. So the key things
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to know about the rut for the next week to
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: two weeks is that it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Is slowing down.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna see as much activity as maybe you
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: saw the first week or second week of November, but
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: it is still happening. There are still some doze in estrus.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And the key thing here is that the big old
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: bucks know that. So this last week or two, right
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: around Thanksgiving, give or take, is a notorious time to
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: catch a very big, very old buck on his feet
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: doing the zombie walk, just cruising from betting area to
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: betting area. So here's the thing to think about. Spend
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: as much time as you can out there, be out
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: there midday if possible, and be in thick cover away
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: from hunting pressure in betting aears. That's where it's gonna
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: be here for these final weeks of the rut. Good luck.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yanni is heading out on his second run cation into
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin this year. Does that sound right? You think that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: what you're gonna see this week when you're out there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I sure hope. So some of them in Wisconsin I've
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: heard have the attitude of like, man, every minute that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: goes by, you know, after opening the opening bell of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the opener, like your odds just go down, down, down,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: down down. But I don't really believe in that. And
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: this year we're spending Thanksgiving there in camp, Like my
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: family is joining us next Wednesday. So I'm gonna hunt
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: pretty close to every day of the of Wisconsin's nine
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: day gun deer season. And yeah, I'm looking forward to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: exactly what Mark's talking about. Like I won't be hunting,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you know, dawn to dusk every day, but I'm definitely
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be putting a couple hours in and it doesn't
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: matter if it's going to be a daylight or at noon.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and you know, peak around
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and hopefully find zombie buck.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I think those pessimistic hunters you're talking about that would
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: be true if you're hunting on public land forty minutes
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it's from Milwaukee. But if you have a private piece
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: of ground to yourself that is well managed, yeah you
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: can feel optimistic for that whole week of Thanksgiving.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah well, I mean yeah, right next to a big
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: metropolitan area maybe, but there's other public land around. And
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: according to the people I like to listen to, they're like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving, the dear pretty much a're back.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: To normal, we hope. So for your case, thank you.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil what's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the chand have to say, Yeah, We've.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Got a couple things I just wanted to shout out. First,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Joe just had a baby with his wife did and
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: he's also there. He's listening from the hospital.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Congrats Joe, Congrats Joe.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: We've got another hospital listener from ant Man says he's
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: listening from the hospital because his spouse just got done
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: getting her gallbladder taken out. So shout out to the
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: husband's out there supporting, supporting their wives, but also not
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: paying attention to them. To listen to media to radio,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: You're doing great. See Garrett's wondering Spencer, why you strongly
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: favorite deer hunting.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just like what I'm familiar with.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: It's what I grew up doing. I also like to
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: solo hunt a lot, and it is daunting to, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going out trying to kill an elk when you're by yourself.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Deer hunting is also what I love about whitetails is
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you're hunting the same animal whether you're in Maine or
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Saskatchewan or Texas. And I like to travel around and hunt,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and so I think I think those are my favorite
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: things about deer hunting.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to put any of you on the
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: spot to actually do a call, but Jeremiah's wondering what's
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: the best call each of you can do if you have,
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: if you're proud of anything, any skills you have, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: you can show them off if you like to.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: You don't have to.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, Johanna, you got the far away out call right.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: If you can do a spot on weed eat or call,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it doesn't help much in the woods.
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: Uh huh.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I'd like to hear that. What's my best call? I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Probably Steve always hypes up your far away elk call.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's it's just like a fun.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I thought, look at doing a spot on
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: weed eater. That's just a fun thing as well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: One time I called in heard though by whistling. It
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: only happened once. I've tried tried it since, but no results.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably an elk or a turkey would
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: be my best call.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like I can do an okay, uh hen
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: turkey call with with just my mouth with no calling.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, Corey. You got any uh any
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: calls at your best?
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: At man?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like just estrous cow calls. I can't do
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it with just my mouth a diaphragm, and I have
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: called in a pretty sizable bull elk with a blade
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: of grass. Oh, I didn't have any calls on me?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah? And then what happened?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: It wasn't seasoned yet unfortunately too, so we just watched
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: him walk five years.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: That's why he's the best elk hunter in the office.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Chris is asking if you would cut around suspected tapeworm
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: CIS and a deer liver or just pitch it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I I don't know enough about tapeworm CIS, but yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'm probably not keeping that, you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Know, that's funny. We just got a text from can
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I do I have enough time to find it?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: You can address it later in the show.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, you can.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: You can look for the text now.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll look for the text now.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Corey and any thoughts getting rid of that thing? Yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: not risk it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: A lot of Yanni Central content people are asking about
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: getting some fuzz here on if anyone's phone is near
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: the mics.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: We're live, folks getting something. I'll try to I'll try
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to find I'm just on internet. We'll troubleshoot. Great.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: Danish I'm guessing is asking if we could get some
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: gear talk segments on radio live. And I'm mainly throwing
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: this out there because we've I think it's a great idea.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: That idea, Yeah, it's a I don't know if you're
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: aware this, honest, but we've actually talked about maybe doing
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: something like this. We're pitching the show is bringing gear
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: talk stuff back. So is that something you'd be interested in?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, future segment we're gonna have Yanni talking gear.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Quick five minute gear and we will do one more. Mainly,
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: this is going to be a promo. I'm setting you up,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: be honest, Yannis, what's the hunting fishing, like in Latvia.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: He's visited family in Lithuania before and they got a
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: few yellow perch. Is there anywhere this person could go
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Villius Vilius to find some quality Latvia and hunting content.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well I've made two episodes about hunting in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Latvia which are on meter YouTube channel now, and there's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: also an upcoming episode. I don't know, it'll probably be
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: out sometime in twenty twenty five where I hunted this
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: past summer. But it was It's great hunting. It's not
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: as difficult, I would say, as most hunting here. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's just it's a small place in Critics
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: just don't seem to be able to get away from you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: They're allowed to use thermals.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You described it for like it's some gloves off situation. Yeah,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Like the goal is.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: To kill an animal, yeah, for sure, for sure. But
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: yeah I've hunted red deer there and pigs and raccoon,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: dogs and road deer, which I killed one this summer
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: which was cool, kill a full grown buck that was
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: only fifty pounds. You can do that, Cameron Haynes thing,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you throw them on your shoulders and walk
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: out really easily with those little road deer.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Did you do that?
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: I did.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: The other thing I know about hunting in Latvia is
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that Yanni smoked a cigarette. There was that a celebratory
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: cigarette or was just like it was part of the culture,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: so you thought you should have one.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: So that was my first trip ever there. It was
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: literally my first five hours, maybe three hours of being
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: in Latvia. And so yes, I was celebrating sort of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a homecoming in a way, and.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: You wanted to smell like Latvian.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: We were sitting outside of this, you know, late night
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Pete's joint, and joined some beers with some friends I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen in a decade or more, and uh, you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: my crew from meat Eater was there. We're having a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: great time and some gals next to us are smoking
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: up cigarettes one after another, and I just thought, you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: when in Riga, h have a cigy was it satisfying? No,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it was a bad decision. I also told you take
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: me four days to brush that taste out of my mind.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He might get mad at me for bringing this up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: When we went to uh to Venice for the for
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: the Mediat Experiences, Randall was technically on vacation. So the
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: first thing we did on the way to the marina
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: was stop at a store so Randall will get a
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: pack of cigarettes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think he told me he smoked too, And then
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: through the rest of the back way.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Content that's vacation behind the sea we need on media radio.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: I'm just going to chime in for two things really quickly,
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: Vilious shout out to you my paternal grandfather's Lithuanian. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: then also, I want to go back to the tape
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: worm larvas cyst. So a friend of mine, Kristen, shot
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: deer and sent me a photo of you know, it
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: looks gross little white cists like rice looking things in
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: her liver, and she wasn't sure what that was. So
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: I sent a picture to Jim Heffelfinger and he said
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: that the tapeworm larvas cysts are harmless to humans, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: don't let your dog eat it. Okay, I mean you
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: may not be wanting to eat that stuff.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But if you trust the world's best to your biologists,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: then go ahead and enjoy that liver, but don't let
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: your dog. All right, Moving on, our next segment is
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: one minute fishing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Do I feel lucky?
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: We'll do you unk, go ahead, make my cast.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: donate to a conservation group. This week, our angler is
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Seth Morris who's on the Gallatin River in Montana and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: he's fishing for a donation to Whileyes Unlimited. Seth, Welcome
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to the show.
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: How's it going, guys?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Going good? Seth had to go to a river today
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: because all of the still water in Bozeman is now
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: frozen up. Seth, Uh, what's the tactic we're using today
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: to catch a trout?
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: Well, I got the old trusty spinning rod again. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: got a spoon on. It's called a nitty one. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: don't hope you can.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: See that made in Pennsylvania.
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: I used to catch a lot of trout in Pennsylvania
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: on this thing, So we're gonna give it a shot.
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: I will admit we have been fishing here for the
• 33:42
  Speaker 11: last twenty minutes and haven't caught anything.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna keep doing the same thing, or you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: trying something different. For one minute fishing.
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: I just recently switched up to this made a couple
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: of casts. So okay, well see there's actually risers right now.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I should have but yep, heard that.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we see what we can do.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Corey. Uh it's now winter in Montana. You've got rising
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: fish there on the gallats. And what would you be
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: doing if you were trying to catch one of these things?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, tie on a little size twenty blueing olive.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, dry fly, m.
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: I will say there there has been fly fishermen here
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: the whole time we've been here.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: They haven't caught anything.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Oh all right, well, Seth is they're gonna show them
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: up right now. Seth, you're one minute of fishing starts
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: when you make your first cast. Go ahead, all right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: let's do it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: They're getting fooled by those risers. You know, there's like
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: ten percent of the fish or eating those bugs on
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the surface, the other ninety percent or eating the the
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: uh emerging emerging bugs in the water column.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just seeing the tails go back down. Perhaps
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: maybe you'll hook a big old mountain white fish for something.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Sex snagg it in the tail.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Twenty seconds in one cast down, he's not jerking at all.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's fishing a little slower water off of.
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: The main current.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Here, nice little back eddie.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Twenty five seconds to go before you, seth. He's e fishing.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: He's not like Randall getting his lure hung up in
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the trees. Ten seconds to go, seth.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: That's a good angle. It's tough.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Time is up. No donation today for Walleyes Unlimited.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a whole lot of hope.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: But we're dry.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Well. Next time we're gonna send Corey out there. He's
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: gonna have his fly rod and he's gonna show you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and those other fly fishermen how it's done.
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: No, I think next time we should punch a few
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: holes in some ice there you go.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I imagine on the mead theater pond there's like what
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: inch and a half of ice right now. So we're
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: gonna have to wait another a couple of weeks.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, it'll freeze up quick.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you for joining us, seth.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe catch one of those and send us a photo.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: We'll do.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks you guys, you made that look way too easy.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: In Louisiana a couple weeks ago, Yanni, you.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Were you were definitely chumming the water before that, right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean that's we're fishing at a fish cleaning station.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Water is constantly chummed.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, yeah, That'll probably the only time we
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: have somebody catch like six fish in the one minute
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: fishing segment.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Well, we also had two anglers going after it. But yeah,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: if there was a place where it was just about guaranteed,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that was it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: All right. Our next segment is from Chester Floyd. This
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: is Chetticutt c g T qu you.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: E t t E find out. Bud means to me
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: c g t A c you t T take care of.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: This week, Chester is answering a listener's question about finders
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: keepers rules in the Alaskan backcountry.
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  Speaker 15: Take it away, chet, Hello, everybody, my name is Chester
• 37:08
  Speaker 15: Floyd and I'm coming at you from a basement in Wisconsin.
• 37:12
  Speaker 15: And this week's Chettikit comes to us from Cooper, and
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: Cooper writes, I've been an Alaskan hunting and fishing guide
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: for twelve years, and I'm generally against do it yourself
• 37:24
  Speaker 15: moose hunts for various reasons. In September of twenty twenty three,
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: a group of three men did a DIY moose hunt
• 37:32
  Speaker 15: on a remote river. They successfully harvested a legal bowl,
• 37:37
  Speaker 15: but due to their inexperienced navigating, they hit several log
• 37:41
  Speaker 15: jams and in the end had to call for a
• 37:43
  Speaker 15: helicopter rescue in Alaska. That meant leaving all their gear
• 37:48
  Speaker 15: and even the moose behind. In August twenty twenty four,
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: I took my jetboat up the same river, found the
• 37:56
  Speaker 15: rafts and even spotted the moose racks still attached to one.
• 38:00
  Speaker 15: Just as I was about to give up, I noticed
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: something red sticking out of a log jam, and after
• 38:06
  Speaker 15: scavenging the area, I recovered about ten thousand dollars worth
• 38:10
  Speaker 15: of gear, including optics, a bone my size, and other equipment,
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: though no rifles. Both items were still in working condition
• 38:21
  Speaker 15: and I split them up amongst the guys and packers.
• 38:25
  Speaker 15: Now I'm wondering should I have made an effort to
• 38:28
  Speaker 15: contact the hunters and return their gear or does finders
• 38:32
  Speaker 15: keepers apply here?
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: We Cooper's getting.
• 38:46
  Speaker 16: Tired of moose trip guys saying that they can roll.
• 38:51
  Speaker 16: It's only DIY and float trip guys are always rolling
• 38:55
  Speaker 16: rafts in the river holes.
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: Super is a hunting who in Flora yet bull ride.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: Believe it or.
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: Not, you found those raps and I'll be damn the
• 39:09
  Speaker 16: moose racks still attached. When you're on a moose trip bowl,
• 39:17
  Speaker 16: you better keep the damn thing a float. Oreo by
• 39:22
  Speaker 16: Rite of Tears, handsome guy named Cooper will be drinking.
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: You're still cold?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Why.
• 39:35
  Speaker 15: I think it's wonderful that you went in there and
• 39:38
  Speaker 15: got all that inevitable trash off the river. I think
• 39:42
  Speaker 15: if you want to keep that stuff, you shouldn't feel bad.
• 39:46
  Speaker 15: But I'm going to tell you what I would do.
• 39:49
  Speaker 15: I would call that guy or try and contact those
• 39:52
  Speaker 15: fellas and let him know what you got. There's a
• 39:57
  Speaker 15: chance that those guys might say keep some of it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 15: There's a chance they might say they want it all back.
• 40:02
  Speaker 15: Who knows. They were inexperience. They probably shouldn't have been
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: doing what they were doing. But I don't know if
• 40:09
  Speaker 15: I could live with myself with all that stuff of
• 40:14
  Speaker 15: theirs and not be thinking about it for a long
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: time to come. If I found a wallet in a bar,
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: no matter how drunk the guy was or something, I'd
• 40:25
  Speaker 15: call the guy and try and give it back. This
• 40:27
  Speaker 15: is way different, and it was like a year later,
• 40:31
  Speaker 15: and it would have been just left there for trash.
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: So, like I said, you want to keep that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: Stuff, I don't think you should feel too bad about it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: They left it there, but I would call him personally.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you Chester a beautiful and clever song from him
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to recap. We had some DIY moose hunters in Alaska
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: who got in a bad place, had to call for
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a helicopter rescue. And then it sounds like a year later.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Like a year later, a guide went in there and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: found their gear and moose rack and took some of
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it with him. Thoughts on that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I pretty much agree with Chester. But if I was
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: gonna call him and they were like, oh, we'd like
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: our gearbag, I'd be like, Okay, well this is what
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you. Otherwise I wouldn't give it back
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Corey, you guided some days in your life. What do
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you think about this?
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I found a lot of river booty in my
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: time on the rivers, and I give you some examples. Well,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: let's see, I used to guide in the Bob Martial
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Wilderness and we would do seven day pack trips and
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: saw a guy lose all his stuff. He slipped on
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: a rock, lost stuff including his rod, and he was
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: like flagging us down like, hey, help me look for
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: my rod. And we never found it that day. But
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: a week later, when we came back in and threw
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: down on the river, we knew that there was going
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: to be fishing stuff there. The river had dropped quite
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a bit late summer, and so between myself and another
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: guide we were kind of racing to get down there
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: to see who could find anything. And sure enough, there
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: was the tip top of a flod sticking right there
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and I was able to grab it. Beautiful sage rod.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I still have it to this day. Hell yeah, And
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I just put out a Craigslist notification that I found
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: this in the middle of the Bob Marsha Wilderness and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: anybody wants it back. I got it and never heard anything.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And then I found rods in the Gallatin or along
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the Gallatin on Highway one ninety one and put out
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: a Craig Craigslist ad and the guy got back to me.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Damn gave me fifty dollars for finding easily two thousand
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of gear sitting on the side of the highway.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think in all of those instances that's
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the right thing to do.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: This one's different, though, but again.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Here it's like these boys should have the right thing
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: they should have done is to hire somebody to go
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: back in there and get their junk out of the woods.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: They just left it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I think this guy said he came back in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: August to get him. We don't know when those moose
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: hunters were there, but probably the fall before. Yeah, so
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: he You know, those guys had all summer to either
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: come back themselves or send someone else in there to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty frustrating, little wanton waste too, leaving all
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: that moose meat back there.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a unique chettiquette, right, And normally the
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: chettiqut questions like what happens if someone sits one hundred
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: yards from me on public land? We're never going to
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: get another one like what we just had.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I do think I would like to add that I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: don't think that the guy should be too upset or
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: or not. You know, pro DIY moose hunts sure because
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of events like this. I mean, it's events like this
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to actually make a DIY moose hunt the adventure that
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it is, because there is the chance of this happening
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and you have to go in there and face those
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: hurdles and face those challenges, and you know, some people
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: may not be prepared for it, and they're gonna have
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to get you know, air lifted out or whatever. But
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I hope that people go and keep trying to do
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: adventures like that forever, you know, and hopefully some will fail.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, like the guy we interviewed the other day
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: on the Meter podcast. Do you try to live in
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the woods on a river near him? Found him dead?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Not, everybody's cut out for it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Sneak sneak peak for an episode that won't be airing
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: for several weeks.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: All right, Thank you Cooper, Thank you Chester. Joining us
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: out on the line. Last is author Jared Sullivan, who
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: just released his new book, Valley So Low. It's about
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: the Kingston, Tennessee Fossil Plant disaster, which was the worst
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: coal ash spill in American history. Jared, Welcome to the show.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Hey, y'all, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: First thing, Jared, give us some background on the Kingston
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: fossil Plant.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: It's a huge Colpire power plant built by the Tennessee
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Valley Authority, which is like an cornerstone of the New
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Deal created by FDR TVA helped lift the South out
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: of poverty during the Great Depression by basically throwing up
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: all these hydroelectric dams than coldpire power plants brought industry here.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: So over several decades, coal ash is like the what's
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: left over when you're burning cold the electricity. It's like
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: a city sandy gross stuff. It's full of arsenic and
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: silica and radium, just like nasty gross stuff. So this
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: a big pile of it had accumulated over five or
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: six decades. And this pile was six stories tall and
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: eighty four acres around, and in the middle of the
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: night in December of two thousand and eight, this big
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: thing just collapsed into the middle of the river or
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: cover it into a river, but also covered a bunch
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: of land. It covered three hundred acres in this gross
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: coal sludge. So my book, that's kind of where it starts,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: is this big mountain of coal sludge collapsing it kind
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: of it kind of goes from there and follows some
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: of these some of these workers in an attorney who
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: get involved in the fray and with this coal ash.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: What impacts does that have on soil, water plants, animals.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's it's like nasty stuff.
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: It's like you wouldn't you don't want any anywhere near you.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I found old newspaper dispatches from our local paper here
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: in Nashville or fishermen and back in the sixties complaining
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: that it's killing fish tied to their stringers as there
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: as they're going down the lake and fishing and stuff. Yeah,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: it's like it's just full gross stuff. So basically what
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: happened after this big mountain of bash collapsed, nine hundred
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: men and women from a cost the country to send
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: on the site to help clean it up. These blue
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: collar workers and TVA Tennessee Valley Authority and one of
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: the contractors basically just didn't supply them with respirators and
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: dust masks, and so these workers over a number of
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: years are just as are just inhaling this coal ash
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: stuff that's in the air. Because it started off really
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: mucky and sludgey all over the ground. But eventually in
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Tennessee's hot, this stuff after a year or so under
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: the sun, it starts blowing around the job site. These
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: workers start inhaling it. They're inhaling arsenic and radium and
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: all this really really nasty stuff. So they fall sick
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: really really fast. And they approached this local personal injury
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: attorney and Knoxville named Jim Scott, who was kind of
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: the only person who would hear them out. He he's
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: not like a big hot shot lawyer binding me. He
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: has a little office in Knoxville, like in a strip mall,
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: and he he's not the most like organized attorney, but
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: he had a lot of heart, and he listened to
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: these blue collar workers and went to bat for them
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: to try to get them damages. So my book's kind
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: of like a legal thriller in that regard.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Give us some examples of the fallout for these people
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: who worked to clean up that coal ash man.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: I should say a lot of these people were sportsmen,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: like one worker I followed in particular name. His name
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: is Ansel Clark. He's passed away. He's like a big
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: squirrel hunter. He liked to go a shoot. Squirrell took
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: a twenty two magnum on the Cumberland Plateau here in
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: East Tennessee or in East Tennessee. Within a couple of years,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Ansel heart failure, canest of heart failure, lung problems. He
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: eventually gets He eventually got this really rare form of
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: blood cancer, and he had a stroke in twenty twenty
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: one and died. So more than fifty of these workers
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: who helped clan up this this big mess are dead now.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: So I really think it's American tragedy. TVA has done
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: a lot of good for this part of the country.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: It's created a lot of beautiful reservoirs that are great
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: for fishing and all this stuff, but it has not, been,
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: in my view, a very good environmental steward in recent years,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: which is a real shame.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And why wasn't this a bigger story when it happened.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: If this was the country's worst coal catastrophe ever, why
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: sixteen years are most of us just hearing about it now?
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean it was not only like the largest,
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: one of the largest coal disasters, one of the one
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: of the largest environmental disasters full stop in the United States,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: one hundred times larger than Excellent Valide's. This coal last
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: sludge was a billion gallons. It could have filled the
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Empire State Building four times over. I mean, it was
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: biblical in scope what happened, but it was this happened
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: days before Christmas, two thousand and eight, the New I
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: think the news media was slow to respond. Also, like
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: the there's a lot of other stuff happening in the country.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: The economunists on its knees because of the financial meltdown,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Barack Obama was about to become president.
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: It was people.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: I think people were just distracted, right, I mean, it
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: just people didn't have their arm, you know, we just
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: weren't falling with that closely. So And also like TVA,
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: they came out and said after this big, after this
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: all the sludge got everywhere, that it was not it
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: didn't pose a threat to the public. So I think
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: the media kind of went, Okay, great, like this isn't
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: this isn't that toxic, We won't worry about it. Well,
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: it turns out that that was not truthful at all.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I found memos from the National Archives that show that
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: TVA has known since nineteen sixty four that this coal
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: ash slough stuff can peel the pant off your car
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: and get you away at vegetables and your vegetable guard
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: if it falls over it. So it's just just nasty,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: nasty stuff.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: And you're a local to that area, Jared, what do
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you remember in two thousand and eight when this happened
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: about the cold catastrophe.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: That's a good question. I grew up in south of Nashville,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: and I remember watching on the news and there's I
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: would recommend your viewers go listen to pull the helicopter
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: footage from that day. Man, it will stick with you.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: A billion downs of sludge over three hundred acres. So
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I remember, I remember watching this footage. I remember TVA
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: people coming on television saying this stuff, Yeah, I can
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: might contain some arsenic, but it's like it's like not
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: a big deal. I remember them saying that. Then jump
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: ahead ten years. I was an editor. First, I was
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: an edit filming stream, but in twenty eighteen I was
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: an editor at Men's Journal. I remember I came across
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: these courtroom dispatches where these sick workers went to trial
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: to try to get damages for their illnesses. So when
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: when I read those dispatches, I knew exactly what the
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: story was. I mean, I knew I remember the spill happening,
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: and I just thought, this is a story I want,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: I want to dive deep into. So yeah, I spent
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: five years reporting a book about what happened, and I
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: kind of wrote it as a, like I said, a
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: legal thriller following this kind of like small town lawyer
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: trying to do right by his by his neighbors and
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: by his community, and trying to seek damages for these
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: for these workers. So yeah, the book's called Valley Solo,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: and I hope y'all hope your listeners check it out.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And when viewed through the courtroom store that plays out
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: in the book, do you feel saddened by our country's
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: legal system or was it the opposite and you're encouraged
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: because people like Jim Scott exist.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: No, it's pretty I'm pretty like No, it's I was
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: already like pretty sally cynical, but when I started this project,
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: it made me very cynical about the EPA, about their
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: ability to monitor, protect to protect folks from from hazards.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: The EPA has had a good idea for a long time.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: But this coal lash stuff is toxic too, but it's
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: not technically considered a hazards waste by the EPA, which
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: is a shame because this stuff is nasty, It hurts
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: the environment, it hurts people, It contaminates thousands of miles
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: of American rivers each year. This coal lash stuff. There's
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: seven hundred and fifty of these pawns throughout the United States.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: It's not just a Tennessee problem. It's a national problem.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: But EPA has been hasn't regulated it well enough to
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: the detriment of wildlife into people. But yeah, it's also
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: just a tragic legal tale. Like I mean, this is
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: not a shocker, I guess, but like blue collar workers
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: going up against huge, billion, multi billion dollar organizations, you
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: know that billion dollar organization is going to win even
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: if they even if the workers, even if the jury
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: sides with the worker. These billion dollar companies they hire
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: these slick lawyers and they can just appeal and appeal
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: and appeal and appeal forever and basically and force you
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: to capitulate. Basically like force forced the They forced the
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: workers in my case to take a settlement that was
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: in my viewway below what they deserved because they can
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: just drive the case out forever. That's what happened in
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Exon Valadies too. You know the Excellon Validees wrecked that
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Alaska fishery. Well, a jury ruled against Exon in that case,
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: but ex all went out and hired these slick lawyers,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: the same lawyer, and they could just drive the cass
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: up forever. So eventually these Alaska fishermen just capitulated and
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: they just took whatever because after a decade or so,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: they're like, we have to move on with our lives,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: you know, we have to. I can't keep fighting exellon
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: court in the same very similar story would happen with
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: my book. Our system is not set up deal with
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: disasters like this, in my view.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I saw a lot of reviews from people from Tennessee
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: who thanked you for writing this book because it was
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a story that needed to be told. So I'm want
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: to thank you again for giving a voice to those
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: people who are impacted by the disaster. Valley Solo is
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: available right now wherever books are sold. Jared, thanks for
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: joining us in. Congrats on the book.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Thanks y'all going to see it. Spencer, Thanks Jared.
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Our next segment is Tattoos. I regret.
• 53:34
  Speaker 14: Hello Darkness, my old friend. I've looked at my tattoo again.
• 53:43
  Speaker 14: It really seemed such a good id when I was
• 53:48
  Speaker 14: drunk last summer and the pizza tattoo says the first
• 53:53
  Speaker 14: ander that will always find more bees.
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: What the does that mean.
• 54:02
  Speaker 14: It's a tattoo.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: We just need to come up with more segments.
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: So Phil, that is just amazing.
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: No, you gotta you just gotta put every single jingle
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: like in one audio record.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Phil said he had people complaining about the usual sound
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: that we use for tattoos. I regret so.
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: Person.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name him.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, Yeah, that was beautiful.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: This is his first name start with S and the
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: last name to start with R.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: It's very possible.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Today's regrettable tattoo comes from Austin Tarby. If you have
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: a hunting or fishing related tattoo that you regret, email
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: us at radio at the Medeater dot com. All right,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Phil has now pulled up the picture of Austin's tattoo.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Here is his story. I have a hunting tattoo that
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I I regret. This tattoo was done on a drunken,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: irresponsible New Year's Eve. For some reason, my buddy Kyle's
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: parents thought that it would be a great idea to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: get him a tattoo machine for Christmas that year. Kyle,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: who is one of the worst artists I've ever met,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: suggested that somebody should get new ink that night. His
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: girlfriend then piped up by saying that she would love
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to tattoo somebody. I, being drunk, young and dumb, it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: a dangerous combo, decided that I wanted a tattoo.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I present to you my seagulls or penguins, which were
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: supposed to be cupping ducks. Luckily, this tattoo didn't cost
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: me anything, but it gets a lot of questions.
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: Wow, where's the placement, guys.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I was describing this beforehand. This is like a very
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: masculine tattoo to get of cupping ducks that you're about
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: to shoot in the face in a very feminine spot
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: like kind of on his hip on the front side,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: lower than his name like appendixes.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Is that about the spot? Sure? Yeah, between the hip
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: bone and the belly button, leaning towards the hip bone
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's got four ducks there that are supposed
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: to be cupping. But as Austin described it, it looks
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: more like penguins or seagulls.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think the tat looks that bad, just the placements, don't.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of negative space that isn't
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: really working, like the one on the top right especially
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: looks like a deformed penguin.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of looks like a petroglyph, which you know,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: like those people. Those people were taking rocks and carving
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: things into other rocks, and.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Close enough that if you didn't know the contacts and
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: someone just showed you that, you would say, hey, it's bad,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: but it's cupping ducks, right, Sure.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Costume is dignity. Yeah, that's the it's pretty expensive. Kyle
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: is exactly the kind of person who would get a
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: tattoo gun from his parents for Christmas. If I were
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: picking one name, it would be that's totally a Kyle
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: thing to do.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: The nice thing about his cupping ducks. I think that
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: he could probably go to another tattoo artist with maybe
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: some better art skills and fix them up a little bit,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: add the feet dropping down, you know, maybe widen him
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: out a little bit, and maybe add another one to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: fill in that negative space that Phil was talking about.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: And I actually don't mind the location. I think when
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you like hide a tattoo, it's like why did you
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: get one? When it's in a place where it's hidden.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's pretty hidden. Well, I don't know if he lives
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: in a warm place where he's walking around without a
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: shirt on all the time.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Plays a lot of shirts and skins basketball.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: It would be worse if he had it like above
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: his butt crack yah, yeah, on his back.
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: You girls get butterflies and flowers.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I think if there was a shotgun maybe on the
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: other side of the hip, Oh sure, with some you know, scatterblasting, or.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Even better, below the waistline, there'd be a dude coming
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: up out of a yeah. Yes, this is.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Free advice for you, Austin. So if you know other
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: folks out there in.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: The bush, like you would say, yeah, oh no.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: If other people have tattoos, they regret. We're just handing
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: out wisdom here on how you can make it better.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Yanni had some silver linings and and Corey pointed out
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: before the show that, uh, Santa Claus isn't carrying around
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of tattoo guns on Christmas Eve. So good
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: good on Kyle for for asking for that that year.
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, unique gift.
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: But there's some funny comments from the audience. There should
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: be reeds coming up out of the waistline, and Nick says,
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: get appendus and have the doctors remove the.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Keep it and you can see a
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: picture of this tattoo on YouTube. So if you want
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: to enjoy looking at Kyle's waistline, which she's not Kyle's
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Austin's waistline with us, you can go over to the
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: meat Eater YouTube channel.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. Phil,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: what do we have from the live chat today?
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yiannis.
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: This guy Troy has asked multiple times if you specifically
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: are coming to Wisconsin for the whitetail opener on Saturday.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir Troy, we'll fly in there tomorrow with my
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: oldest daughter. We'll be getting into camp about eight pm
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and quickly packing our bags, making lunch and hitting the sack.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: And we got a thirty minute walk to our stand.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll be there right.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: And squirrely, as they say on the internet, username checks out.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: Canadian Hunter says listening to trivia is great, but sometimes
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: as a Canadian it's hard to answer a lot of
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: the American quot questions. I would love an episode or
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: two of Canadian focused questions. Is that something you would do?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Spencer?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Canadian Hunter, I recently wrote a question for an episode
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: will record in a few weeks. That is all about Canada,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: so I think you'll get that one right. Another thing
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: is we have crossword puzzles on our website now and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I did one that was just for Canada, So Canadian
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Hunter twenty one, you should go play that Canadian crossword puzzle.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: But to answer your question about a Canadian episode, probably
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: not going to happen, but I'll throw you little bones every.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 16: Now and then.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: Brent Reeves is bragging about some chili he made and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: disappointed that he couldn't enter it into the contest we
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: had at the office yesterday.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had twelve entries yesterday and our winner was
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: bree I think we had Logan get second and Tresa
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: get third. So I came back to defend my title
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: and it did not happen this year.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Brent on some of your bourbon cornbread with the chili,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: it would have been delicious.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: That could have won it for him.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Luke is asking Giannis, since you're in the process of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: creating deer habitat, what trees would you recommend planting to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: balance both longitivity and habitat or longitivity longeitivity of habitat
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: and timeliness of production within your own life longevity, that longrivity.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Boy, I haven't gotten that far along in my deer
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: habitat creation process. Man, But if I had I think
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, I know, and we've certainly talked
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit about it is I'd probably just go
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: with some fruit trees of some sort and probably some
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: apples and find some apple trees that grow well in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: my part of Wisconsin.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whitetail hunters habitat managers will always talk about plugging
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the lowest hole in the bucket that is your property.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: So if your property is lacking fruit trees, then that's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: probably your answer. If your property is an area that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: historically has a horns, but you don't have any there
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: right now, plant some oak trees look with at whatever
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: you're lacking. That would be my advice.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Was I saying, longitivity you are?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: I didn't even realize I was saying that, Wow, okay,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: I think it might just keep also little stick with that,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: see how it works.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna bring it up, Phil.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Please correct me.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: I'd rather have someone correct me on the spot than
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: me look like an idiot for the rest of my life.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: Let's seego was asking if we're going to do any
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: more Meat Eater.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Movie Clubs because it's been a while.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, next week we will not be live on
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Thursday because it's Thanksgiving, but we will still drop an
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: episode of Meat Eater Radio on Thursday at eleven am
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Mountain Time on YouTube, with the podcast coming the next day.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: And on that episode there will be the return of
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: the Meat Eater Movie Club. Randall and the crew will
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: be reviewing the nineteen ninety seven thriller The Edge, which
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: you can stream on Amazon Prime, so mogor go watch
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: it before Thursday's episode if you want to join in
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: on the discussion.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and really quick. Unlike the last pre taped episode
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: we did when we were in Louisiana, we couldn't stream
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: that one live. Even though this is going to be
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: pre recorded, we will be streaming it live, so the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: live chat will be active. It'll be treated like a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: normal show that's happening currently. So I'm going to try
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: to be in the live chat if i can get
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: away with it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: So I was going to say, if you don't like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: your family, that would be a good place to hang out.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it'll come to your own conclusion.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: I'm going to have a very special guest.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, a very special guests.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, from the human species.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: For the Thanksgiving episode. What could it be?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Bart the Bear? Probably a monkey?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Anything else?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: Fell Uh, you know what, I kind of use that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: as sort of a way to transition to the outro here.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: So also, you know, Black Friday is happening right now
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: at Meat Eater. It goes through December second, it's our
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: biggest sale of the year at First Light, FHF. Phelps,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Dave Smith, Decoy's Meat Eater. And and this is new
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: for this year, there's a photo contest starting on Monday,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: November twenty fifth, where people can submit their favorite hunting
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: photos for a chance to win a bunch of sweet gear.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: So Black Friday sales happening right now.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Go over to I think that's very shirt I'm wearing
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: right now? Is half off?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Half off?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Is that right, Corey?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: I believe so it's a discount, But yeah, I believe
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: you're right.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: And he got a real compliment from that before we
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: even knew it was it was half off.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: It's a slick shirt.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Slick shirts for sale right now for Black Friday. Anything
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: else today, I.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: Don't know, No, you want to talk about anything else,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: you guess feeling.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Big football game in Montana this Saturday. Cat Grizz Go Grizz,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: right everybody.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm a Cats fan.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm from Western Montana. So m hmm, grizz
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: or die baby.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I'll be there first, drow. I'm gonna storm the field
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: when we win.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Again, are for every game?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Every game I'm there, they win, they storm in the field. Well,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I don't start storming of the field, right, It's like
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: the student section that floods out there. And then I'm like, yeah,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: I'll get in on that. So are you too old
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: for that, Spencer?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, wonder if you'll be tearing down
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: the goal post and taken downtown.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I've been to three games. Would they storm in the field?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I think too? Brawl of the wilds and did they
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: beat SDSU in the playoffs a few years ago? It's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: fun time.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've never been that into the college football thing.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: But when we were in for the live tour, we
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: were in Penn State at in State College. I interviewed
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a couple folks and I really got to experience just
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: the level of fandom and the passion there. One kid
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: told me. He's like, we're gonna win, and when we win,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: we're gonna storm the field. Then we're gonna pull down
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the goal post, and then we're gonna carry that goal
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: post downtown.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I love the passion.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: That's what's fun about college football. Best fan in the country.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: What happened at that football game?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Ohio State beat them? Yeah, I was born, but it
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: was so fun to see fun game.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Well, Montana, we don't have a professional team, of course,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: so this college football brawl of the wild is as
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: big as it gets.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: Yah.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I'll see you there on Saturday, Corey.
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  Speaker 3: Good day to go hunting too, because a lot of
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: people be watching the football game.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You boys have fun, all right.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: That brings this to the end of today's show. We'll
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: see you back here in the same time and place
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: in a week.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: Watch Mediata rough cuts.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 14: Bye.