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David Kaplan on the Bears win over the Packers at matchup vs. the Rams & Cubs talk, NFL Divisional Round thoughts & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I'm Hillary Condon, welcome back.
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  Before we get out of here right now, let's head to Chicago.
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  guests. These David Kaplan.
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  How are you Capper? I'm doing awesome.
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  Great to be with all of you. My Chicago Bears are still
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  alive, moving on, so we'll see. Indeed they are in a home game
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  and it sounds like it's going to be cold and perfect.
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  Perfect setup for for your Bears.
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  Well let let's go back and relive it in some respects
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  because it was a phenomenal game.
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  Hard to believe Jordan Love threw 4 touchdown passes in that
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  game, but he did came out on the short end of the 625 six.
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  They outscored the the Packers in the fourth quarter.
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  Caleb Love making just an unbelievable 4th and 15 play
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  cap. That's one of those plays that
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  Chicago sports fans, you know, I'm sure that just you can come
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  up with something the Cubs did, whether it be a big postseason
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  home run. I think that 4th and 15 play is
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  going to be talked about for a long time.
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  When he found a Doonese. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah, 4th and 8th with 5 is. That what it.
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  Was 7 to go, 4th and 8th, five O 7.
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  And somehow, some way as he's getting dragged down, he finds
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  Roma Dunze for 27 yards. That's probably the most
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  impactful play I have ever seen a Bears quarterback make in my
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  lifetime. Yeah.
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  That's saying something. It's not a stretch.
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  Absolutely the. Incredible.
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  The culmination of that people imposing the Michael Jordan jump
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  man at him, going to his left, making that throw, contorting
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  his body in that way, getting it in that tight window over the
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  people in front. Just an incredible play is at
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  that moment that it's suddenly it's everybody now that
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  everybody's jumping aboard and and the naysayers and there's
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  plenty of them out there still nationally that everybody now in
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  Chicago. Look, there's no more questions.
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  This is going to be our guy. This is the guy.
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  This is something in almost everybody's lifetime, unless you
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  watch Sid Luckman play. We've never seen a quarterback
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  like this. Is the time now getting there
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  for everybody, at least Bears fans as it pertains to Caleb
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  Williams? Oh, he owns the city.
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  When he was grating cheese and contorting his face on the
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  Amazon Prime set after the game. I mean, that was just, you know,
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  a cold, vicious move that the city is in love with this guy.
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  And anybody that watches him that does not believe that he's
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  a franchise quarterback. I don't know what you're
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  watching. I don't.
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  I'm with you and I don't know if anybody's watching.
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  As good as Tyler Warren is, will still criticize that draft pick
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  as both Trent and I kinda did. You didn't because Loveland Cap
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  was out of his mind in that football game.
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  I got that he played. I think he is, yeah.
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  Then Tyler Warren and that does not mean that Tyler Warren's a
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  bad player. Not saying that in any way,
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  shape or form. I'm just telling you that when
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  you look at what Colston Loveland has been able to do, he
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  has become probably the number one receiving option for Kayla
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  Williams. I mean, I'm just being honest.
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  He's he's a beast man. This guy is just an incredibly
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  talented kid and he is a tight end in a wide receiver's body.
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  That's what he is. And he's just been magnificent.
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  We keep playing the audio of the guys from ESPN Milwaukee when
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  the draft. Was in green.
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  Bay last year and they're laughing.
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  Oh, Can you believe it? Typical Bears.
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  What a terrible pick. They should have taken time at
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  once. And now this kid goes out and
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  gets 137 yards in a playoff game as they beat the Packers and
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  they they're just devastated up there.
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  And I think it's hilarious. It wasn't hilarious during the
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  first half, so we were honest. Last week I had the Mia Culpo as
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  we talked about Loveland and how wrong I was with him against
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  Warren. Now, how are you feeling down
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  21, three at the half? I had to start to crack into the
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  beers a little bit, something I rarely do at home alone.
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  But it was time to start slugging back some beers and
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  trying to change the the luck of the Bears.
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  How are you at halftime cap? So I live that the Bears at
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  halftime, you did, I did. And I also live that a two leg
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  parlay, Caleb 20 or more yards rushing and Caleb 225 or more
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  yards passing. And yeah, made a nice score.
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  Absolutely. Was I going to bet my life that
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  they would come back and win? No.
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  Was I kicked off? Yeah.
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  I kicked the coffee table. And our son was watching with
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  me, as were some neighbors. And when I kicked the table and
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  dropped an F bomb, our son took his hat off and threw it and
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  dropped an F bomb. And my wife was right.
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  There she goes. Just because he's a moron
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  doesn't mean you happen to be not going to be allowed here.
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  He said it. So was I 1000% supremely
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  confident we were winning? No.
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  I did think we'd come back. I did think we'd battle.
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  There was no way we were going down to that team in that
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  fashion. And then when Kevin Buyer told
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  me last night that he said it was not a pleasant place to be
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  in our locker room at halftime, but he said we came out and
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  immediately I think it was a nation, right?
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  Tyler Gordon Blitz and it completely changed the what the
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  way the look that the Packers saw from the Bears.
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  They started trying to run the football.
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  They averaged with Jacobs .9 yards per carry in the
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  second-half. And then the Bears were able to
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  finally get Caleb and everybody rolling.
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  And Owen Cruz told me, and he's a master of breaking down the
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  film. He said he broke down the film
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  and he said, I I really thought Caleb played a really good game
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  the entire night. He said there was just some
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  things that the offensive line wasn't great and Green Bay was
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  clicking offensively, he said, but he believed they could come
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  back. It was unbelievable cap just to
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  watch it and you're right about the defense into the adjustments
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  that they made because Green Bay had no no idea what they were
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  doing defensively to start the second-half as the Bears owned
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  it. So let's get your confidence
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  factor going into this week. We talked about Loveland and the
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  damage that he did. The weakness on the Rams is is I
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  watched this Rams team is their secondary.
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  They are not good against the pass cap.
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  I I have to believe that there's a lot of confidence and even
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  though they're going to go into the game as an underdog to the
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  Rams, the Bears should be able to move the football through the
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  air. Weather dependent, of course.
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  Yeah. They should be.
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  That's going to be very, very cold, but that's that.
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  Rams offenses, as Tommy Waddle called it, a wagon.
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  They are Devante Adams, Puka Nakua, 3 tight ends, Tyron
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  Williams, the main, and obviously Matthew Stafford.
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  That team's a wagon offensively. So in my world, the key to the
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  game is whether it's through the run or the pass, you've got to
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  contain their offense by keeping your offense.
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  Run the field, run it effectively, play action, pass,
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  take your shots when you get an opportunity.
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  I still think it's going to be a high scoring game because when
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  Stafford gets the ball in his hands, it's very tough to stop
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  those guys. Now how will Puka Nakua play if
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  it's wind chill? Is you know, zero that I can't
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  answer for you? Had a good game last year
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  against Philadelphia as they were right there late in that
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  one. The only team that was able to
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  push the Eagles in the playoffs a year ago.
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  They're loaded over there. Yet their past defense is kind
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  of their their weak point if you will.
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  Is it as simple as Caleb Williams?
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  Do they need 4 quarters of good Caleb Williams?
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  Can they get by with two good quarters of Caleb in this one?
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  Or do we need to see a complete 60 minute effort?
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  Well, it depends. Like the first drive the Bears
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  had, they took seven and. 1/2 did.
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  Rock. They just didn't get in the end
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  zone, but they kicked the field goal and then the Bears defense
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  did a lousy job in that first half.
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  I didn't think it was on Caleb. I thought it was the defense not
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  allowing the Bears offense to, you know, have chance to get out
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  on the field again because Green Bay was grinding out these
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  possessions and getting 7 out of all of them.
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  So for me it you're going to run the ball with Swift and Menon
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  guy and then you've got to hit your big shots.
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  When you get a shot to hit DJ Moore, you got to hit him.
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  He had a big drop late in the game on Saturday.
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  He redeemed himself with the game-winning touchdown.
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  Really did good stuff anymore. Football TC.
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  Yeah, I don't want to talk about baseball.
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  Baseball will come in April. I want to talk baseball.
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  Coming in 5 minutes, I've been. On the air for 20 years, on 21
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  years now on the radio, the bears have been good twice.
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  Can we talk about the bears? For five more minutes, but I'm
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  doing some Cubs. But fire away, alright?
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  I've got to get your perspective on the Ben Johnson Lafleur
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  thing. There's been plenty of
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  misinformation out there. The first blow by that we saw in
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  the first meeting all the way back to Ben Johnson's initial
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  press conference. So you got to fill us on the
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  details cap. Obviously, you're keeping a
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  close eye on that. I'm sure it's been a huge
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  conversation piece over there. Ben Johnson.
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  Silverman. Oh, absolutely, beloved, give us
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  your perspective on what has been transpiring not just on
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  Sunday, Saturday night between these two coaches.
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  They don't like each other, and I think that's great for the
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  sport and great for the rivalry. I had zero problem with Ben
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  Johnson saying F the Packers, F the Packers.
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  I had zero problem with that because you're talking to
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  someone who was a college coach. I was an NBA scout.
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  This stuff has been set in locker rooms.
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  Over 40 years, it has and. Probably way before that, but
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  that's as far back as I go. It just wasn't recorded and put
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  on social media. That's just a fact I heard.
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  JJ Waco. Why do people have a problem
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  that he said that? Because somebody said, well, my
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  kid heard that. And what?
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  Ben Johnson's job is not to parent your children.
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  Sorry. His job is to try and win
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  football games and beat his arch rival.
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  Your job is to parent your kids, so I had zero problem with it.
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  I heard JJ Watts say the same thing.
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  I heard Boomer Sison say the same thing.
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  Good for the sport, good for the rivalry.
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  They don't like each other. I think that's awesome.
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  It's great. And, and it's dovetailed into a
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  media. I don't know if it's a battle or
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  not, but your colleague Mark Silverman went off on Chuck
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  Schwersky. Is that his name?
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  Yeah. He's the boy for the.
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  Bulls, the Bulls announcer, he went off on him yesterday.
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  Cap. He did.
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  He did. Look, Sylvie's my teammate.
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  He's also my neighbor. He was my intern and my producer
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  at WGN before he left to start his great career at ESPN.
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  Sylvie does not suffer fools lightly.
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  I'm just telling you, Sylvie heard Chuck Swersky firing on
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  Ben Johnson and said, OK, that's it.
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  I'm going to air The Dirty laundry that I know about you
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  and I get I don't really deal with Chuck.
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  I'm not around the bulls, but I if I see him, I'm cordial, say
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  hello. But Sylvie had receipts and he
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  wanted to play those receipts. They were legit.
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  And so I have 0 issues what Sylvie does.
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  I got to, I got to bring up your owner because he takes a lot of
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  arrows. I'm not sure which which bear
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  was hurt, but I think it was Edwards when he was down in the
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  tunnel and. George Mccaskey ran his helmet.
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  Yes, I thought you know what, you don't see too many owners
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  doing that thing. Now the owner of the of the
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  Niners went and got a bottle for Kittle, which you know was in
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  and of itself. But, and apparently Mccaskey
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  spent, I don't know if he bought everybody's Uber that was going
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  to the game, but apparently, you know, dipped into his own
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  pockets and granted they are deep, but Mccaskey was some with
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  some PR points this past weekend Cap.
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  You know, it's funny that the perception of the organization
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  had always been the Bears are cheap and actually wasn't
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  exactly true. Because we want to sign Julius
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  Peppers for 92,000,000, get it done.
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  We want to do this, get it done. He he's just the every man.
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  He sits in coach and the team charter.
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  He's in the middle of the plane instead of in first class.
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  And then this dude, Kevin Warren, who I like, rolls in as
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  the new team president. Kevin Warren said it's not a
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  badge of honor that we fly Dan Quinn in the interview and put
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  him in a middle seat in the last row in coach.
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  Dan Quinn's a big man. He's 65.
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  That is not how an 8 to $10 billion corporation comports
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  itself. The other 31 teams, either the
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  owner has his own jet or they charter a plane.
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  And here the Bears put him on Southwest in coach, I mean.
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  With the C ticket. Yeah, he's in the back of the
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  plane, in the last row, in the middle.
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  He's going to interview for, you know, a $7,000,000 job.
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  Just stupid. And I like George.
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  I think George is all about wanting to win, just not knowing
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  how to win. And Kevin Warren said those days
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  are over. That's it.
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  And so Darnell Wright is sick. We're going to play in San
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  Francisco a few weeks ago. And guess what?
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  Darnell Wright stayed home, slept Sunday morning and they
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  got him on a chartered jet and flew him to California so that
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  he could play in the game that night.
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  Business is being done differently, perception of the
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  organization is different and George is a very good person.
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  That's important. They're actually being a billion
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  dollar corporation and actually acting like 1.
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  And that goes a long ways 2. Different things.
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  Two injury questions for you want to start, what they're
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  going to do. Ozzie Trapillo, who played
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  really well before the injury, How about him getting off the
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  field, too, just limping his way over so they didn't have to use
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  that final time out. He's lost, though, for the
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  season with the ruptured patellar tendon.
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  What does the offensive line look like now this week?
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  And then secondly, Garden Johnson coming back from the
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  concussion, Anticipate he's going to play.
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  Have not yet heard that he's cleared the protocol in terms of
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  being able to play Ozzie Trippillo.
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  He's done for a long time. Torn patellar tendon, ruptured
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  is a bad injury, really tough injury.
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  I would think Theo Benedette will get the start at left
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  tackle. I also believe this offseason
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  they will upgrade at left tackle.
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  They have to. The window now to win a Super
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  Bowl is open with that quarterback and that coach and
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  that old line and some really good skill position players.
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  They're going to have to upgrade at left tackle and I expect that
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  to happen. Braxton Jones is off IR and he's
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  back. He's not a great player either.
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  So they are going to have to go out this offseason and get a big
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  time left tackle. Fascinating stuff.
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  What are you doing? You're laying the points, taking
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  the taking the points. What are you going to bet the
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  game? Of course I will.
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  So damning and why I am going to take the points with the Bears.
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  I'll put a same game together without an outcome just off of
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  prop bets won't go crazy and I'll sit back and relax and
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  watch. Good stuff.
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  Cubs Con this weekend as well. Let's talk Cubs.
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  We got that in the middle of the game of all things, the Bregman
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  news breaks. I get it, What's a different
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  sport? But it's just kind of felt the
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  odd that you're making that big splash because that's what Cubs
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  fans have been bitching about. They haven't made a big splash.
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  They did this past week. So the trickle down, so two
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  party, your thoughts on Bregman and now what the infield is
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  going to look like? Assuming Nico is going to be
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  there, is he going to be there? Does it make sense for them to
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  trade them? How about those two, Cap?
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  So on the Bregman thing, I think it's awesome.
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  Love it. They've long wanted this guy
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  acting like a multi billion dollar franchise, a big market
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  team. Super cool to see.
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  That's AB Nico Horner wants an extension.
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  His contract is up after the 2026 season and I've been told
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  that the number he's asking for is 5 for 90 million.
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  If you are not going to give that to him, and I'm not sure I
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  would, you have your #1 prospect as a position player in Matt
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  Shaw. He was a Gold Glove finalist for
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  third base. Bregman's now got his spot.
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  If you move Matt Shaw a second and you trade Horner, that also
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  he makes 11,000,000. Matt Shaw makes 850 grand.
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  That should allow you to spend to get another outfielder,
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  whether that's Cody Bellinger or somebody less expensive.
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  You should be able to get somebody to play right field
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  because you really don't have a right fielder.
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  Suzuki, I like him as my DH, but you got by a stereo stair as
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  well. They need another outfielder.
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  Yeah, and, and, and what would the whole, what would you get
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  for Nico Horner prospects? It means you want prospects.
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  Depends how good the prospect is.
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  Depends. So if you told me I can get him
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  and I was a really good outfielder that I can get in
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  return, that can come in and play right away.
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  All right, I'm interested. If it's just prospects, OK, then
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  I'm going to go take the savings and I want to spend them.
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  Cubs have been known to be pretty cautious with injuries
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  here with this front office and the way they've done things.
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  Certainly recently we've talked a lot about Justin Steele and
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  his return. I know it might be dependent
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  also on the way things are going, the way the staff is
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  going, if there's injuries and and the like there.
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  But if they could in a perfect world don't have to deal with
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  injuries, the starters are all doing fine.
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  What is the perfect setup for Justin Steele and bringing him
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  back this season? Sometime in mid June you know
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  he's already throwing. Says he feels good.
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  I just I would rather he not come back throwing in cold
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  weather to get started. Yeah.
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  Good point. So if you said, you know what,
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  it's June 10th and it's 82°, let's if the doctors have
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  cleared them, let's go. They've got, by my count, at
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  least nine guys that could make a Major League start for them.
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  I'm not saying all belong in the rotation, but if you count up
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  Steel and Wiggins and Ben Brown and Javier Assad and Matthew
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  Boyd and Colin Ray and Shota Imanaga and Cade Horton and
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  Edward Cabrera, there's a lot of dudes that can start there.
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  So I think they've done a really good job at adding to their
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  depth. I'm looking at a picture right
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  now, Justin Steele in Arizona at the complex actually throwing
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  right now. As we speak.
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  Love it. Yeah, absolutely.
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  I mean, not it's, it's not amount or anything.
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  He's playing long toss, but he's throwing the ball so that that
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  that's that's something good stuff buddy.
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  Appreciate it. Good luck to your squad.
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  Mainly, it's not without the realm of possibility that the
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  NFC goes through Chicago next weekend.
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  Which is. Yeah, if San Francisco beats
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  Seattle and the Bears beat the Rams, we're hosting the NFC
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  title game. Unbelievable good stuff, Capper.
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  Thank you pal. Hey, boy.
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  Good to talk to you, David Kaplan.
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  And that would mean we would get that rematch.
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  Yes. Of Niners and Bears, which I
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  think we both think is maybe the most entertaining game, how many
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  of it did we come up with? A180107, Not 81?
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  Two. 172. 270, yes, 272 regular season games throughout the
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  year. Good stuff with Cappy.
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  We shall see. 3 1/2 is the number.
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  Is that what we're at right now? Saw some fours in the market
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  when I was looking earlier today.
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  Hadn't taken a peek lately at WADRI.
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  Well, I'm doing so as we speak. 3 1/2 There are there is a four
• 20:45
  super books of four, so is Caesar's, but yeah, everybody
• 20:49
  else is 3 1/2. 4 of that teaser looks a little more enticing
• 20:55
  when you get the Bears plus 10, yeah.
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  I don't know what to think. You can throw the ball on this
• 21:00
  team. I will not be shocked at all if
• 21:02
  your Bears are hosting the NFC Championship.
• 21:05
  I wouldn't. I won't be.
• 21:06
  Not at all. This team that was tooth and
• 21:11
  nail to beat the Raiders, Yeah. Right.
• 21:13
  Has helped played in many ones and here we are and it's special
• 21:18
  over there. And even if they're not hosting,
• 21:20
  they could be very easily jumping on a plane going
• 21:22
  Seattle. Sign up for that.
• 21:25
  I think anybody would have taken that before the year.
• 21:27
  God, yeah. By the way, at one point this
• 21:29
  summer, he could have got Seattle to win the Super Bowl at
• 21:31
  60 to 1. No way in the summer, I think.
• 21:34
  It was that. Big of a price.
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  I think it was maybe shortly after the draft.
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  Do you have one? No, I got the Rams 1 though that
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  you talked me into. Thank you for that.
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  Yeah. I think I am at 3028 maybe?
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  It was 28 when I finally jumped aboard after you talked about it
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  for about a week. Like OK, OK, OK.
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  But I don't. You didn't buy any chargers, did
• 21:56
  you? No, thank goodness.
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  You're not kidding. Bengals.
• 22:00
  Nope. I got lots of those too.
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  What? Do you do with those tickets?
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  You know what those are? Not kidding aside, I can't wait
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  to bet them again. You're jumping out the Chargers?
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  No, I'm going to bet the Lions. Yeah, Ian.
• 22:11
  No. OK, I'm going to bet the
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  Bengals. Why?
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  Because they Joe Burrell cannot be injured again.
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  Really. No, Nope.
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  He's he's had his fill. I thought you said that last.
• 22:22
  Year I probably did, but now I mean it and.
• 22:26
  They're fixing the offensive line.
• 22:27
  They're going to do that. They are OK.
• 22:29
  They're going to do that for sure.
• 22:32
  The Cincinnati Bengals, those Cincinnati inept organization,
• 22:35
  they're going to figure it out this time.
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  But I've divorced myself from the LA Chargers.
• 22:39
  No you haven't. Don't lie to people.
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  Probably not but but I'm I. Can hear it already.
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  Justin Herbert and I are divorced, Little Puff.
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  us as we get into the divisional games with Vinny Miller and
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  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  I'm Hillary Congdon, Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 23:34
  Trenton Ken with you until 2:00. Dante Moore is live on Sports
• 23:39
  Center. We have no sound because we're
• 23:43
  doing a radio show. Breaking news.
• 23:45
  Is he going? Staying is.
• 23:47
  What does it say? We'll return to Oregon next
• 23:50
  season. So what does this mean for
• 23:51
  Rayola? He'll do what Dante Moore did,
• 23:55
  sit for a year, learn behind a guy that's on his way to the
• 23:58
  NFL, cool your jets and move on. But you saw all the jokes out
• 24:03
  there. As soon as Mahomes had to put on
• 24:05
  that Texas Tech jersey after or had to put out the Oregon
• 24:09
  jersey, you knew where your role is going to end up.
• 24:13
  The portal's not closed yet and I don't know if he has signed
• 24:15
  his financial. Agreement.
• 24:16
  Not tomorrow, it's Friday. But he hasn't.
• 24:18
  If he hasn't signed that agreement, he.
• 24:20
  Can still move on, should he? Or does it make more sense for
• 24:24
  this guy that we see? He's got an incredible arm, but
• 24:27
  there is a lot of development that is needed for Rayola, for
• 24:30
  him to become an NFL quarterback.
• 24:31
  It's got to be incredibly difficult, though.
• 24:34
  To go from being the guy from the time he set foot on campus
• 24:37
  and starting every start to knowing that all of a sudden
• 24:41
  you're going to sit and watch. That's got to be tough.
• 24:44
  Sure, but you can talk to the guy that did it.
• 24:48
  He's right there. Dante Moore very well could be a
• 24:52
  top three, top five selection in this draft, but he's coming
• 24:55
  back. But to do that, he learned.
• 24:57
  I'm sure it was difficult for Dante Moore, who everybody had
• 25:00
  targeted for Michigan and then he went to UCLA and he played as
• 25:03
  a freshman there. But he knew for the betterment
• 25:06
  of him and now he's put himself in position for an incredible
• 25:09
  payday. Sitting for a year made the most
• 25:12
  sense. Swallow your pride.
• 25:13
  Don't go to a terrible situation where you're going to get hurt
• 25:17
  behind a bad offensive line, you're going to be injured
• 25:19
  again. Do what's the betterment of your
• 25:22
  football future. That might be a developmental
• 25:25
  gear for Eola. I don't think what what we have
• 25:28
  learned about his personality, though.
• 25:29
  I don't think it's going to happen.
• 25:31
  I don't think it is either. I just, I, I can't.
• 25:34
  I would be very surprised if that's the case that he's
• 25:37
  willing to to do that. I, I, I don't know.
• 25:41
  We'll see. What do you think?
• 25:43
  He's an NFL quarterback. Who?
• 25:45
  Dante Morgan, I mean, if he, he would be probably the
• 25:48
  presumptive second pick in the draft by a quarterback needy
• 25:52
  team. If you are that team, if you're
• 25:54
  The Jets, is this the guy you want?
• 25:56
  Well, it's The Jets. Well, it's The Jets, right?
• 25:59
  They could draft whoever. They'd probably find a way to
• 26:03
  screw it up. You talk yourself into a lot of
• 26:06
  things. See, I don't, I don't think he's
• 26:08
  an NFL quarterback personally. I don't think the guy he sat
• 26:12
  behind last year isn't NFL quarterback Gabriel.
• 26:16
  Right, I never saw that. I didn't either.
• 26:18
  It's 5 foot 9. That's just it.
• 26:21
  I just he never had that feeling.
• 26:24
  It was completely different than even Bo Dicks.
• 26:26
  And and Colin Murray doesn't. He's 59 and he's way more
• 26:29
  athletic than this cast. Yeah, yeah, Dylan Gabriel, he
• 26:32
  can move a little bit, but in the NFL, small guy, that
• 26:36
  stature, you got to be a different kind of mover.
• 26:37
  I don't think that. I don't think he is.
• 26:39
  I think he's making the right decision.
• 26:40
  Oh, absolutely, yeah. But I'm not so sure.
• 26:43
  He's, like I said, the same about Brock Purdy, right?
• 26:46
  Well, a lot of people did, yes. Yeah.
• 26:47
  You were not alone on No, no, no, of course not.
• 26:51
  And even plenty in Story County didn't think that he was going
• 26:54
  to be playing Yeah, at that level.
• 26:56
  No, I'm with you. Well, we'll see, but more coming
• 26:58
  back. So Riola, what does this mean
• 27:00
  for him? It doesn't look as though we're
• 27:02
  going to get Vinny Iyer. So let's you and I tackle these
• 27:05
  games on their own. Which one are you more confident
• 27:08
  in? Which one have you figured out
• 27:10
  there's no doubt in your mind X is going to win this game and
• 27:13
  move on? None of them.
• 27:14
  None of. Them I have no confidence in any
• 27:17
  of these four games at this moment that is definitive put in
• 27:20
  a bet, lock it in. I'm going to dig in my heels
• 27:23
  this week and there's nothing that's going to change my
• 27:25
  opinion. Same to Arnold, there's nothing
• 27:27
  so. That's why the Niners can beat
• 27:28
  the the Seahawks. Absolutely.
• 27:31
  Go back to the 13, three-game. He made two big third down
• 27:35
  throws in that game. Not.
• 27:36
  Very many. That was it.
• 27:38
  It was bad. Problem for the 49ers is their
• 27:41
  offense was bad, and the Seattle defense had a lot to say about
• 27:44
  that too. Seattle's defense elite.
• 27:47
  I trust Shanahan too, I really do that I like McDonald.
• 27:50
  Though. I do too.
• 27:51
  Yeah, absolutely. But Shanahan, what he did last
• 27:55
  week in Philly against that defense, and we know that
• 27:57
  defense is still really good. And to be able to know you're
• 28:00
  limited and then in the middle of the game, you lose Kittle,
• 28:02
  one of your few remaining weapons this side of Christian
• 28:05
  McCaffrey, you lose that. To be able to manufacture some
• 28:09
  scores, you go with the wide receiver pass.
• 28:11
  We're going to do some different things here.
• 28:13
  I just thought it was a master class of not putting up 600
• 28:18
  yards in total offense, but understanding your limitations,
• 28:21
  yet still being able to do enough to find ways to move the
• 28:24
  football, get your guys out there, making a few plays and
• 28:28
  doing just enough to get there. And I think he can do it again.
• 28:31
  And better job certainly than they did.
• 28:33
  They looked just dead in the water.
• 28:35
  And I was on the way back from Iowa City listening to that
• 28:38
  game. But you can just hear like the
• 28:41
  Westwood one, guys are like questioning kind of what what
• 28:43
  was happening with the 49ers that night.
• 28:45
  You saw it a lot closer than I did.
• 28:48
  I don't anticipate we're going to see the same kind of
• 28:49
  performance out of San Francisco.
• 28:51
  By the way, Speaking of Westwood one, we will broadcast two games
• 28:54
  this weekend, the early game which is Buffalo and Denver and
• 28:57
  then the nightcap we'll have the Rams and the Bears on Des Moines
• 29:02
  Sports Station. One O 6.3 kicks.
• 29:04
  You know, you mentioned Kyle Shanahan, that 2013 Mike, Mike
• 29:09
  Shanahan tree. Have you seen the coaches that
• 29:11
  come off of that tree? Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel,
• 29:15
  Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan were all assistant coaches on
• 29:19
  that team. Not.
• 29:20
  Too shabby 2. 1013 and superimposed that off and I
• 29:24
  don't know if this is true or not, but I couldn't come up with
• 29:27
  anybody. Somebody posted yesterday, 19
• 29:30
  years Mike Tomlin was the was the head coach of the Pittsburgh
• 29:34
  Steelers. Does he have a branch of a of a
• 29:36
  coaching tree? I don't know.
• 29:38
  I guess I don't follow assistance that closely to
• 29:41
  really know what it looks like. But in comparison to that, yeah,
• 29:45
  we hear about that tree often, certainly not no comp there.
• 29:49
  And there's nobody that makes a whole lot of sense.
• 29:51
  But I, but to just to your point on Kyle Shanahan, he's a he's,
• 29:55
  he's a brilliant coach. Yes, he's a brilliant coach.
• 29:59
  It's a big number, man, 7 1/2. It's almost, it's almost.
• 30:04
  You almost have to take the points, don't you?
• 30:07
  Speaking of the Steelers, and there's something I want to get
• 30:11
  to, but also think back, here's the offensive coordinators that
• 30:14
  Tomlin had. Arthur Smith, Matt Canada, Randy
• 30:19
  Fincher, Todd Haley, Brazarians. There you go, there's one.
• 30:25
  And he left there to become a head coach.
• 30:27
  He did. Ken Wizenhunt also left to be a
• 30:30
  coach. Mike Malarkey.
• 30:31
  He got an opportunity. Kevin Gilbride, Tennessee.
• 30:35
  Ray Sherman. Now we're going way back and
• 30:37
  we're going back before the Tomlin days.
• 30:38
  Chan Gailey still offensive lately, though, as more than
• 30:43
  anything. It's been the quarterback she's
• 30:45
  had kind of or hasn't. Had right.
• 30:48
  Do you blame the offensive coordinator?
• 30:49
  Do you blame the quarterback? Plenty of blame to go all
• 30:52
  around. The way to end.
• 30:54
  I think Pittsburgh Steelers fans are in for rude awakening
• 30:58
  because this team, the way it's constructed, they need a rebuild
• 31:02
  in the worst way. Because when you take a look at
• 31:05
  what's left, A, the secondary is old.
• 31:08
  B, they don't have a quarterback again.
• 31:11
  The offensive line was not great by any means.
• 31:15
  Jalen Warren, They found a running back.
• 31:16
  Gainwell, you like him? DK Metcalf, Apparently he's not
• 31:19
  a very good route runner. That's the knock on him.
• 31:22
  Well, when you're 240 lbs. Right.
• 31:23
  And you can run like that. But Valdez, again, he's, you
• 31:26
  know, obviously in an upgrade at the receiver position.
• 31:29
  I see Thielen just retired today.
• 31:31
  Not that he was the answer, but but he walked out.
• 31:34
  I wonder how Vikings fans feel about him because he crapped on
• 31:37
  the organization when he walked out the door.
• 31:39
  How so? Because he got to Pittsburgh and
• 31:41
  he said I was finally, I'm paraphrasing here.
• 31:43
  I wish I had the quote, but he crapped on Minnesota because
• 31:47
  he's oh, it's he's finally in a place that I don't know,
• 31:49
  believes in football. He left a a team that finished
• 31:53
  8:00 and 9:00 to go to a team that finished nine and eight
• 31:57
  right and caught what, 5 passes maybe in his time there.
• 32:00
  But he could have walked out the door in his home state, A state
• 32:03
  where he paid his dues, paid his dues to get on the team, worked
• 32:07
  his way into a star on that football team, went to Carolina,
• 32:11
  came back and you're going to retire with your state, state
• 32:15
  you grew up in NFL franchise and you crapped on them in the way
• 32:19
  out the door. How do you feel about a Vikings
• 32:21
  fans? This is the quote, and maybe I
• 32:23
  read it differently when he was asked about leaving Minnesota.
• 32:27
  Extremely tough. It really wore on me mentally.
• 32:30
  Just excited to have an opportunity.
• 32:31
  I'm very thankful for this organization.
• 32:33
  Speaking of the Steelers, the people in the locker.
• 32:36
  Room. See, there's more to it there.
• 32:38
  There was more to it than the one that I'm thinking of.
• 32:40
  There was more to it. He he went on to extol the
• 32:43
  virtues of Pittsburgh, seemingly at the expense of Minnesota.
• 32:47
  He'll be blowing that stupid horn in a couple of years.
• 32:50
  It'll be fine. What do they call that thing?
• 32:52
  I don't know. The stupid horn.
• 32:52
  That's what I called the stupid horn.
• 32:55
  He'll be blowing the stupid horn and he'll be back out there.
• 32:57
  He's one of them. As much as we love Iowans here
• 33:00
  and any connection to the state of Iowa, we, we use it all the
• 33:03
  time. Those people up north, they take
• 33:06
  it to another level. They take those long connections
• 33:09
  and they, he's one of them. He is going to be welcomed back.
• 33:12
  He is going to be beloved. He's going to get a loud cheer
• 33:15
  and he'll blow the stupid horn and.
• 33:16
  He'll blow the stupid horns. And who will be the quarterback
• 33:19
  that takes the field? He's probably in high school
• 33:22
  right now. He's.
• 33:24
  He's certainly not getting his male in Minnesota.
• 33:26
  Let let me ask this question differently.
• 33:28
  Who will be whoever blows the stupid horn in week one?
• 33:31
  Who will be the quarterback that takes the field or their first
• 33:33
  home game? Scott Studwell will be the one
• 33:35
  blowing the stupid horn. Let's see who's.
• 33:38
  Going to be the They're moving on.
• 33:40
  They are. They're bringing in a veteran,
• 33:43
  maybe not a very good one, but like a Justin Fields type
• 33:46
  somebody. Oh my God, I know.
• 33:47
  But it'll be something like that, somebody that is not the
• 33:52
  automatic starter, going to push JJ, a veteran, her cousins.
• 33:57
  Well, does Atlanta want to watch watch him?
• 33:59
  Leave. I don't think so.
• 34:00
  I don't think, I think they have their starter.
• 34:02
  I think they do and it's not the one they drafted. 10th overall
• 34:05
  and Michael Panics. The injuries are piling up and
• 34:08
  the GM has been fired and the head coach has been fired.
• 34:12
  We will see. One final note, you're talking
• 34:14
  about coaching trees and the Steelers shot.
• 34:17
  Bill Cower was 37 when he was hired, though he looked like he
• 34:19
  was like 52. He was 37 when he was hired.
• 34:22
  Mike Toblin, he was young. He was 37.
• 34:24
  Also, there's a young coach that is getting a lot of interviews
• 34:28
  there are with connections to this state.
• 34:30
  Speaking of connections, Nate Shield House, new coach of the
• 34:35
  Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, they hire you.
• 34:37
  What did you say? You.
• 34:37
  I didn't know this. Noel was young.
• 34:40
  And in his 30s, they were all the 30s.
• 34:42
  Yes, I believe. I believe Noel was, and I know
• 34:44
  the last two were 37 when they were hired.
• 34:48
  She'll house. But they've gone.
• 34:49
  But they've gone defense, have they not?
• 34:51
  It's been defensive coaches. And it maybe they're ready for a
• 34:54
  change. Well, they need a quarterback,
• 34:56
  right? And somebody to develop.
• 34:59
  And the quarterback's not in this year's draft.
• 35:01
  I just don't think it is Nate. Shield House, Pittsburgh
• 35:04
  Steelers head coach. Clip and save.
• 35:06
  If I would have told you that three years ago, I've been left
• 35:10
  off the airwaves. Yeah, you would have.
• 35:11
  And here we are. Uh huh.
• 35:13
  Is that the that list that you came up with the the prices to
• 35:20
  be the the odds to become the next?
• 35:22
  Steelers. Oh yeah.
• 35:22
  Yeah. Was he on it?
• 35:23
  He was not. No, this was from offshore.
• 35:26
  Let me pull it up here. It was.
• 35:28
  Remember who is the betting favorite in that, by the way?
• 35:30
  Yeah, Brian Flores. Oh, yeah, Flores was the betting
• 35:32
  favorite. Marcus Freeman was on the list
• 35:33
  again. He's not.
• 35:34
  I don't think he's. Leaving the no, no, and it's
• 35:36
  offshore. What can he get down?
• 35:39
  Can he actually get paid? Who knows about that?
• 35:42
  Some other names on the list, Jesse Minter, a lot of buzz
• 35:44
  there. Speaking of defensive guys,
• 35:46
  Chris Shula, he's 5 to 1. Defensive guy in his 30s.
• 35:50
  Robert Sala 8 to 1. I like Antoine Randall L again,
• 35:55
  with an offensive guy like the way that he's built him way up.
• 35:58
  Mike McDaniel 18 to 1 take a long shot.
• 36:00
  It doesn't seem exactly like a Pittsburgh.
• 36:02
  Type of guy. You're not sure when you if
• 36:04
  you're going to get paid when you bet over there.
• 36:06
  So we shall see. All right, Trent, plays of the
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  in here real quick. Joe, before we got to go to
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  break. How are you?
• 36:35
  Hey, perfect. First off, it's good to see SGA
• 36:38
  get up, climb the ladder and he sure went in the next week last
• 36:40
  night. Hey, if Matt Ryan wants to get
• 36:43
  in there and straight Kirk Cousins and maybe package him
• 36:46
  with the Tyler Algier, keep in mind they don't have a first
• 36:48
  round draft pick and they're going to need to get one.
• 36:52
  Tenex isn't the guy, but if you want to package Cousins with an
• 36:54
  Algier and a future draft pick to get a first round draft pick,
• 36:57
  I'm OK with that. Yeah, if they gave it up for two
• 36:59
  guys that started right, they traded with the Rams, they got a
• 37:03
  third round pick and they drafted somebody in the first
• 37:05
  round, I can't remember his name, and they threw in the 3rd
• 37:07
  and both of them turned in to be starters, correct?
• 37:10
  Yeah, the the kid. The kid from Tennessee?
• 37:12
  Pierce. That's the guy they drafted high
• 37:14
  and then they go in. So a guy in the secondary maybe
• 37:17
  is. I don't.
• 37:19
  Remember, yeah, the, the, the, the kid from Kansas, Kobe
• 37:22
  Bryant. Bryant, right, Yep, you're
• 37:23
  right. Both of them turned out to be
• 37:25
  pretty good, pretty good picks and we shall see good stuff Joe,
• 37:28
  thank you. Appreciate the call and you're
• 37:30
  right, you're your Thunder back in the win column after the
• 37:34
  Spurs have been taking it to him.
• 37:36
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  I'm guessing you'll be watching Michigan and and Washington
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  late, yes? What are you betting on tonight?
• 38:10
  More importantly. Well, I grabbed Purdue right
• 38:12
  when the opener came out at 9 1/2.
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  Too much ugliness in Mackie historically for me to get real
• 38:17
  excited about this one. I know there was what Fran had a
• 38:20
  couple of good games there, but for the most part it's been
• 38:22
  blowout after blowout. What about the total in that
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  That seems like a big number to me.
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  That's pretty is I were going to score in the 70s, No 60s.
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  Probably. Maybe a high 50s.
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  I mean, maybe top. Purdue might score 80.
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  I mean, then they'll probably hit 15 threes.
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  Well then and and actually the last few games, the Purdue
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  defense has not been very good. They just gave up what, 85
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  against Penn State at home? Purdue defense not.
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  Glad I don't bet games. Not a vintage Matt Painter
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  defense up until this point. How do you see this one going?
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  Well, not well. Not well, I think that's right.
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  I think this thing is going to get very, very ugly this
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  evening. Got a couple of plays for you
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  along with the Boil Makers here tonight.
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  I'm going to play Cal late night against the Dookies.
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  There's another fun late night game for you.
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  Going to grab the price there. The 12 1/2 that is out there.
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  Give me Missouri on the money line basically, even against
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  Auburn at home tonight. And finally, fade the doggies,
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  Drake. Yeah, give me SIU.
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  Minus the five and a half all. Right, so that will do it for
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