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Trade Deadline PREDICTIONS · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Shnook Sidri. This is episode 553.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corwin. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Casey, how are we at all? How are we?
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We have fun one today. I'm looking forward to this.
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This is going to be good the trade deadline predictions
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episode. For those of you wondering,
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we're not necessarily on the eve of the trade deadline or
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anything of that matter, but we're quickly, I think this
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stuff's. Going to start happening this
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week. I really do some of the early
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moves. Yeah, we are rapidly
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approaching. I I think I was actually
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thinking about today. I think we're we're quickly
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approaching Dugout watch season. Love good dugout watch.
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I think we're approaching early splash season, so we figured,
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you know what, let's just let's just lump it all together.
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Let's get out in front of the yeah, in front of the momentum
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and and dive into some moves that we think could happen and
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presumably will happen for some of these guys.
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I think we can say almost without a doubt that a handful
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of these names will be on the move.
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It's a matter of where. But then I think we may even
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sprinkle in a few names that could could go either way, maybe
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maybe stay and put, but also could be on the move as well.
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So with that said, how do you want you want to start by just
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maybe running through the standings here real quick and
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then sort of getting a feel because now we're on the other
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side of the All Star break. Right.
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I think that's like a good time to kind of check back in, you
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know? Sort of, you know, we had, we
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had a little bit time off. We've most teams are, are
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wrapping up their first series post All Star break.
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So I think now is a good time to check in on the status of some
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of these teams, see where, see where they may be at in terms of
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approach, in terms of moves to be made or, you know, whether
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buying or selling. So let's let's let's take a look
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around the league, shall we? Where you want to start.
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Let's start in the NL. We always start in the NL.
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Let's give the NL some love. All right, lead the way for us.
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I think the NL W is kind of a fun story just because it's been
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a little back and forth. It's it's got some good teams in
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there. It's got teams that are very
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much in the wild card hunt. It's got buyers, it's got
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sellers. So the Nos is a is a very
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interesting situation right now. Obviously the Dodgers are at the
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top. We got the Padres 4 1/2 back at
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the moment, Giants in 3rd at 6 1/2 back and then a very the
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very disappointing year in in the Arizona Diamondbacks 9 games
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back. Currently a game under 500.
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Just a very talented roster that underperformed.
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I know some injuries were part of the mix, but like I I think
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this is a very strange team this year.
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Underperforming is a is a good word to, you know, slap on the D
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backs this year. Yeah, yeah.
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Where it's like you're not going to see like a fire sale.
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I think they still have a very good core.
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They have a lot of good pieces, but I think there's going to be
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some big names because there's a lot of talent on their roster
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that are moved. Well, here's the quick, here's a
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quick question though. You said you don't think they'll
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be a fire sale, but I've seen, I mean, I think I don't short of
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them going public with the exact list of names, I think we've
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heard enough names that are quote, UN quote available that
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should they go could amount to some variation of a of a fire
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sale. I think fire, I I don't know.
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For me, fire sale means like the that no one remains untouchable.
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I look at, you know, Corbin Burns, I look at Corbin Carroll,
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I look at Katel Marte. Sure.
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Those guys aren't going anywhere.
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Perdomo, those guys aren't going anywhere.
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I think Gabby Moreno just went on the 60 day, so obviously he's
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not going anywhere. So a fire light sale?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing.
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Like it's like a, we're not, it's not like a liquidation
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sale, but it is like we're closing some stores, we're
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closing a bunch of locations, you know, not all locations, but
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we're closing locations. It's, it's, it's one of those
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sales, those going out of business sales that you see just
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about on every street corner where it's we're going out of
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business, everything must go. You drive past the same store,
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right. The next year, they're still
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there. They're saying, right,
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everything must go. Yeah, kind of a similar
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situation there. Right.
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Like you're like I, I need to swing by this store.
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I think there's one up here on the corner.
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Next thing you know, it's that Halloween costume place and
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you're like, oh wow, I guess I got to go to the other one on
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the other side of town, which is still there, but like, it's just
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inconvenient. That's the situation that
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Arizona Diamondbacks are in. That's fair.
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Yeah. Do you want to you want to start
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with them because? No disrespect.
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The Rockies are in last, by the way.
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Yeah, no, we. 33 1/2 games out of.
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The essentially, I mean over 30 games.
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Good night at the. Break that's crazy currently 50
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games under 500 dear Lord, insane let well, I I know we're
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going to bounce around the league, but do you just want to
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well let me ask you, do you want to just jump in right now since
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we're talking to you backs or do you want to continue our our our
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bird's eye view around the league and then come.
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Back No, I I like this. Let's just kind of hop around,
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which would when tossing in some players relevant to that team.
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So I think we mentioned the untouchables, but there's some
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clear names that have been a lot of rumors.
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I think leading the pack is Gino Suarez.
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That has been the most conversation about him.
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Some other names in there is is Lourdes Garrio and then an
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interesting situation with like a very underperforming Zach
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Allen, who is set to be in a walk year and then Merrill
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Kelly. I think those are like the most
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common names. And then little bit of a
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conversation with Josh Naylor too, because he is only in a one
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year deal. So he's set to be a free agent
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at the end of the year. So this is there's like a good
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batch of names that have control but are also rentals that I
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could see being moved and and I think it'd be smart for the
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Diamondbacks to eat off those names.
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So where you want to start? Which which name?
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Let's start with Gino. He's first on my list and I
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think first on the list of many hopeful fans, not just with some
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of these popular trade targets, but I think there's a lot of
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fans out there that maybe, even if incorrectly viewing the
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situation, would want Gino Suarez on their team right now.
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I, however, have not gone with one of those far fetched teams.
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I think this fit makes a lot of sense and I'm curious if we have
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the same destination. What you got, pal?
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I've got Eugenio Suarez going to the Detroit Tigers.
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Really, I don't have that, but I don't hate it.
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Eugenio Suarez going back I back to the Tigers, some forget some
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forget 2014, 2014 Tigers legend Eugenio Suarez.
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Mind you, his look, his strikeout numbers are down and
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even I mean for much of his career, but I I feel like,
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especially the start to the year that he had this year, my it was
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still my primary focus of like he just seems like a very
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singular dimensional player. And he's he's made some some
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changes to his approach at the plate this year has resulted in
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some of the I'd have to go back and check.
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But I think some of the lower strikeout numbers of you know,
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in terms of rates in his career, at least going back to, you
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know, late twenty 10s. But I just think with him being
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one of the top names at the deadline, you've got the Tigers
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as one of the top teams in baseball.
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Have been and you and you mentioned it off off here before
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hopped on that they have apparently the number one farm
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system. Deep in the farm system, I just
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feel like this is a chance for the Tigers to make a splash that
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maybe not too many other teams would be willing to make.
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Yeah. And really solidify yourself in
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what we have continued to call a weak American League.
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Yeah, And really separate yourself from the rest of the
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pack. Yeah, I like that.
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I don't have Gino Suarez going to Detroit, but I do have him
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going to the Central in the form of the NL Central.
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I have him going to the Chicago Cubs.
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Really. Yeah, I think that's one of the
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few holes that the that the Cubs have is that third base.
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I think they're going to do some other fun stuff, which we can
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get to later. But yeah, man, I think that team
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needs some pop. They're pretty much middle of
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the road in a lot of offensive categories and I think they
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could use a little bit of of stuff, but there's really not a
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ton of holes that they have. I just think they're going to
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make a smart move and and go get the one guy that they need to go
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get. So I'm putting Gino Suarez at
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the top of that list for them. I think there's a lot of teams,
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like you were saying, Gino Suarez is is being looked at by
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a lot of different teams. But I just think like the Cubs
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don't need a ton. I don't think they're going to
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make a bunch of moves and might as well just go all in on like
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one move. And we've talked about it
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before, like having Kyle Tucker, this is like the year where you
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got to, you got to really go for it.
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So that's a good move for them. But I don't hate the Tigers
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pick. You don't.
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I do not hate that. No, no love for Matt Shaw, you
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think? I like Matt Shaw, but I.
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Did enough of the experiment. Yeah, I, I don't, I think
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there's a good future there, I really do.
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But you're saying double down now while you got the chance?
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Yeah, like double down now while the pieces are in place.
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Like I don't think it's, it eliminates the future of Matt
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Shaw being the guy or moving forward.
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I just think it's kind of a piece that's needed right away.
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So but. Let's talk about the arms in in
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Arizona, you mentioned Merrill, Kelly, Zach Gallon.
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Look, I've seen, believe it or not, both names attached to the
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Boston Red Sox. But hear me out.
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I think with the track record for the Boston Red Sox, you're
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either going to get, if you're the Red Sox, you're going to get
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a an uninspiring name and maybe roll the dice to where you don't
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have to take as big of a big of a risk in terms of what you're
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what you're sending back or pain.
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Where, you know, whether we're talking deadline or offseason
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with, I mean, obviously a couple exceptions as of late, but track
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record over the the over the years has has proven that you're
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either going to take that route or you're going to go get the
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guy. I don't think the Red Sox are
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going to be willing to go after a guy like Zach Gallon, who has
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shown you what he can do but is having, for all intents and
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purposes, a not great year. Yeah.
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So I don't think the Red Sox are are going if if it wasn't going
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to require the price tag that I think Zach Gallon is going to
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carry with him at the deadline at that might be a guy that
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they'd roll the dice on. But I think because of the name,
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that's not necessarily going to be a place they they they look
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to Merrill Kelly, however, having the undoubtedly better
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year. Yeah.
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But what does that? What is the?
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What is the return for Merrill Kelly look like?
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Well, I don't think anything crazy.
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I think it's high. I actually would say the return
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for Merrill Kelly is higher than than Zach Gallon just because of
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the performance they're both said to be at the end of the
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year. So I think Kelly's going to ask
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for a little bit more and getting into that conversation
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because you've already brought them up.
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I actually have the Red Sox landing 2 Arizona Diamondbacks.
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I have them getting Merrill Kelly and I also have them
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getting Josh Naylor. Really.
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I have them getting both. Again.
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It's just one of those things were like, you look at a team
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like the Red Sox, so you can speak to this better than I can,
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but you look at a team that has like a really good young core
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offensively hasn't necessarily been a struggle, but first base
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has just been a little weird. But they're still like, hey, we
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have a great future, but we're winning now.
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How do we get some names in here right away that don't
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necessarily log jam the future? And those are two names that are
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going to come in that they're going to probably leave this
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offseason to go elsewhere. So yeah, I have them getting
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both. I know, I know Abraham Toro's on
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a little bit of a slide. I think he's like one for his
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last 20 years or something to that effects.
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But All in all, I think the Red Sox have been happy with the
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platoon of Toro and Romo Gonzalez.
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It's been serviceable. It's been in some instances
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better than what they could have expected.
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So I I'm not saying that they would be out on Naylor, but it
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would lead me to lead me to believe rather that their focus
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would be more so on the pitching side.
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Yeah, just because they're getting it done from a
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positional perspective at first base.
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But I do like your pick of of Merrill Kelly.
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And in my head, and the reason I brought up the red I.
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I looks like a Red Sox, doesn't he?
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Yeah. The reason I brought up Kelly
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and Gallon being both being linked to the Red Sox is I feel
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like I feel like they would get they would be interested in
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going after one of those two because you're, you're starting
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to see more of these reports about the Red Sox.
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You know, the now that they went on this 10 game heater, granted
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they're knocking on the door of a sweep at the hands of the
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Cubs. So that sort of negates the good
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vibes that we're rolling out of the break with you're, you're
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still seeing these reports resurfacing.
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You're starting to see a little bit of the momentum saying that
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they're they're back to being a legitimate World Series
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contender with when when all things are clicking.
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So I think they they go out and try to add to that rotation.
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So I think they would get one of these two guys.
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But I also feel like whichever guy that they do get, the other
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guy, believe it or not, I feel like I have going to the
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Yankees. Yeah, yeah.
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And to me, Mary Kelly makes more sense for the Red Sox because he
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just seems to fit the profile more of the type of move they
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would make. As I was mentioning, maybe not
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so willing to roll the dice on a on a very iffy Zach Gallon right
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now. And correct me if I'm wrong,
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though, the Yankees have made moves like that where maybe it's
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a guy who had a run, maybe having a little bit of a down
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year, and they're like, let's see if we can get out of this
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guy. Definitely because they look at
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they look at a specific pitch or a specific pitch ability and
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say, hey, like your usage has been down, but we have you being
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very successful with that pitch. Let's ramp that usage up and
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just kind of change your philosophy.
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A lot like a Clay Holmes with the Pirates, when he comes over,
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he's like, let's go heavy sinker and you saw a lot of success
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from him. So that's not a bad story at
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all. I have another move that the
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Yankees are going to do that. I'm not sure if they have the
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prospect capital to do that plus this and the Yankees.
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I mean, I did think about Gino Suarez being packaged with a
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Zach Allen to the Yankees. But my problem with these names
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are and, and I'd think where the Yankees typically find
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themselves that they're not willing to move on from
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prospects without having some control.
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And the fact that Gino Suarez and Zach Allen and Merrill Kelly
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are all set to be free agents in the offseason.
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The Yankees don't love going all in on just Reynolds.
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They like having a little bit of control.
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I think Spencer Jones, by the way, is, is absolutely going in
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whatever deal they do. And it would need control.
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It would need control. So that's why I kind of backed
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out a little bit on that. But I don't hate that pick.
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I actually have Zach Allen staying put.
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I I think, I just don't think the teams are going to value him
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as high as the D backs value him.
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And I, I have a feeling D backs just don't get the offer that
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they're looking for for that name, just how bad he's been
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this year. Yeah, they're they're not in a
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position of much leverage right now with right the way he's been
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thrown at this year. That's fair.
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Yeah, where are we at with the oh, I have my last D back name
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and then we can move on. I don't know if you had Lourdes
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Guriel. I did not, but I'm I'm curious
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to hear. I'm going to the Giants
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actually. I think that they have like a
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little bit of a rotation with their corner outfield in DH.
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If Devers can start to get some time at first.
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I don't know if that's just that's the end of the story with
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it. I'm not really totally sure, but
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yeah, either way you can kind of rotate between Elliot Ramos, Yaz
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and I think Lourdes Guriel. So I had that as a as a little
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fun name going there, but I think that kind of rounds out my
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D back talk. Keep it in the West.
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I'm just sort of bounced around my list here.
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The National like W that is. Yeah.
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I have American League DH representative shout out Raphael
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Devers. Thanks for this honor on behalf
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of Ryan O'hearn. Ryan O'hearn to the Giants.
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This, this fit just makes a lot of sense to me because
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currently, right now, your first base situation for the Giants is
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Dom Smith and Wilmer Flores platooning.
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Why not go get one of the and you know, we, no disrespect, we
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make we, we've been making jokes about Ryan O'hearn, you know,
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pre post All Star, All Star break talking about like, is
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this really one of the best bats that's going to be available?
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But the reality of it is he's hitting 282 with 11 jacks, OPS
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135 or OPS plus of 135. I think it'll, I think it's
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going to play in Oracle and I, I think that'll bring a little bit
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of. You know, I'm, I'm a
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traditional, this may age me, I don't know, but I feel like I'm
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a, I'm a traditional positional guy.
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I understand the value of the, the increasing value of platoons
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and matchups and everything, but I think we've gone a little too
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far with platoons and trying to, you know, fine tune every single
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match up instead of letting guys just be.
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Athletes, man, they used to just be like 1 platoon position per
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team. They used to just be like, hey,
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like our third base is kind of a hole.
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Let's just figure out the position.
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Now it's like. Every position, yeah, it's
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crazy. So I'm like, let's bring a
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little bit of consistency to the first base position for a
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Giant's team. That's playing well.
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I mean, they're only two games out of the wild card, 6 1/2 back
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out of the division. So I mean, definitely not a a
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giant leap in either of those races, even with, you know, the
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Dodgers leading the way there. But I've got Ryan Ahern going to
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the Bay. I like that.
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I like that. Do you want to keep talking a
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little Giants buying? Because I do have one more name
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that I have on my list outside of Lourdes Curielle.
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We got. I got.
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Luis Severino going to the Giants I.
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Let's just cut, let's just sort of snake this episode, you know,
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like if there's a connection made.
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Let's just let's just kind of just.
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Ride the wave. Yeah, because I've, I've got
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Luis Severino on my list, but you've got him going, going to
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the Bay. I've got him going to the Bay.
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Staying in the Bay, I I get, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, kind of. Well, former.
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Former yeah. Former Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, I, I think just, you know, Birdsong has been OK.
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Verlander has been, you know, not what they were hoping for.
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I think they're going to have to look at this postseason as
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needing more than just more than just the top 2 starters in, in
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Robbie Ray and, and what's his face?
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Why can't I think of his name? Who's their ace?
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I can picture his face right now.
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Oh, Logan Webb. Logan Webb, thank.
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You sorry, I was looking at, I was looking at his numbers with
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the. Yeah, I think they need AI,
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think they need a third arm. And I think I'd be excited with
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the fact that like what Luis Severino's done on the road this
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year and you know, being polar opposite, basically going from
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the most extreme hitter's park in Sacramento to a pretty
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difficult hitter's park in in San Francisco.
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So I got him going as a giant all.
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Right. Well, if we're going to snake
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this thing, if we're adjusting our approach to this episode,
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that's. Fine, let's.
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Keep it riding with Luis Severino.
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I've got Luis Severino going back to the Mets.
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I saw that. I've seen that a little bit back
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to the Met. Real interesting.
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If you're the Mets, you, you just need innings.
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I mean, let's, let's call a spade a spade.
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You're a team that needs innings right now and, you know, is as
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excited as I was about the Clay Holmes edition.
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Who has been? I'm delighted.
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Solid. Solid, but I think you have.
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To running out of innings. Yeah.
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I was going to say you, you're going to have to anticipate a
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little bit of having to pump the brakes a little bit there to
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just sort of bring that train to a stop because you you're just
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going to be able to ride it for so long.
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Luis Severino last year with the Mets gave you 182 innings.
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We went 11 and seven with a 391. So it's not going to be, it's
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not necessarily going to be a, a front end fix that you might be
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looking for, but bringing a guy that made it work there.
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And you know, if, if you're Severino and you're looking to
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get out, while you're very clearly looking to get out of
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Sacramento. And I think Sacramento is very
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clearly looking to get him out of there.
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So this just see, I, I think Severino is going to be on the
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move. That relationship went bad
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quick, didn't it? Real quick.
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And if you're Severino talk about a fleece man, you you you
24:39
get you get the the largest A's contract in history and then
24:44
you're gone before the deadline back to a place where you
24:50
ultimately made that contract happen because A saw what you
24:53
did in in Queens and and liked what they saw.
24:56
So I've got him going back to the Mets.
25:00
So by snaking do you are you saying like team like we should
25:04
stay on the Mets right now because I got a couple of names
25:07
if. You want, if you want, if you
25:08
want to go Mets, let's go with the Mets.
25:11
All right, Well, just to kind of stay with a little bit of our
25:16
theme started out the Mets are currently a game and a half back
25:20
from the Phillies and then at least and hold the second wild
25:27
card spot then that no game and a half up on that.
25:32
I am going to give the Mets a couple names.
25:36
I'm going to go more low key with names, but I think
25:41
impactful first name being Andrew Heaney.
25:46
You said they need innings. I think this is a fairly
25:50
affordable name that has has been pretty solid this year.
25:57
So I don't really have the ton of feel behind that.
26:01
It's kind of just like a gut, you know, shoot from the hip
26:04
kind of name. But my other name has gotten a
26:11
lot of attention, which I don't know how I feel about.
26:16
I'm I feel like it's kind of misplaced, but I I guess it's
26:19
been better. Is Johan Moncada from the
26:23
angels? I have him also going to the
26:26
Mets. You want Moncada being in trade
26:31
rumors in the year 2025 as crazy baffles me.
26:36
Crazy absolutely baffles me. He's gotten a lot of attention,
26:39
man and I I think the Mets are just kind of at this weird place
26:46
at third base, man. Like it it's, I know Vientos
26:50
started off, you know, in, in the system trying to figure some
26:55
stuff out. There's some injury involved
26:57
there, but like him and Brett Beatty haven't necessarily been
27:00
impressive. And it's another one of those
27:03
situations where like look like we got a we can let those guys
27:07
develop and and continue to be our guys down the road, but like
27:10
we need to find some security now.
27:12
I feel like Moncada brings that a little bit so.
27:16
Have you heard much of anything about Moncada to the Yankees?
27:20
Because I know they're looking for an established guy, 1/3.
27:22
So yeah, yeah. Definitely heard that name to
27:25
the Yanks quite a bit. I like I, I don't know what it
27:29
is. I think I just have a bad taste
27:31
in my mouth for him in general. Well, I think it's the
27:38
underperformance. I think it's the, the health.
27:40
I mean it, it's a myth of things, but I think it's certain
27:43
people aren't necessarily drawn to this name as much as they
27:47
would have been years ago for any one of the OR multiple
27:51
reasons. And I mean, it's like it's very
27:54
interesting. He's got he's got an 853 OPS, 8
28:01
Jacks. He's I'm not that.
28:07
Into it. I'm just not that into it.
28:09
He's only played 37 games this year and it's just like, I
28:16
don't. I think we all know what the
28:17
back of that baseball card looks like.
28:19
So that's why I think like the the Mets get a guy who maybe
28:24
you, maybe you just strike with lightning in a bottle and like
28:28
you get something good there. But at the same time, you can
28:31
still bounce back over to your Vientos and and Brett Beatty
28:37
solution. And what's nice is that you have
28:39
flexibility in those names. You know, you've seen Vientos,
28:43
you know, slide over to first base and give Pete Alonzo 1/2 a
28:46
day off. So I think it just gives them
28:48
some some depth in the infield. You had the Mets buying anyone
28:55
else? Was that it?
28:57
No, I didn't. I didn't have.
28:59
I mean, I know the Mets are are attached to a bevy of people,
29:03
but I didn't have much activity there.
29:07
I did have some other National League movement though,
29:11
specifically the East. I mean, if we want to keep in
29:13
the East a name, a name that I think could.
29:16
I think, I think you and I are going to say the same name, same
29:19
place right here. I, I don't know, this is a
29:22
little lower on the on the totem pole in terms of I agree in
29:27
terms of. It's not sexy.
29:29
It's not sexy. Is it a national?
29:33
It is not a national. OK, well, there we're free to
29:36
take it. I'm going Kyle Finnegan.
29:42
I do have him. To the Phils.
29:44
All right. To the Phils, because your
29:47
court, your current solution at Closer right now is Jordan
29:52
Romano. Yeah, who's been brutal, by the
29:55
way? Brutal.
29:56
He's got an ERA of seven O 8. What's with that guy's hair?
30:01
I don't ask questions, but what I do know is that this is not
30:06
the solution. And even with Alvarado
30:08
situation, you have to take into account the lack of eligibility
30:12
for the postseason. That's a huge factor for
30:15
Philly's team that I think has every every intention of making
30:18
the postseason this year. You, you just, you want to you
30:22
want to find that solution now because this is the time to do
30:27
it. And like I said, not exactly the
30:31
sexiest of picks, but it's a guy that could.
30:35
I like that. I mean, I he's a stud.
30:38
Well, he's had, he's had a, a rough couple last outings and
30:43
I'm not, I'm not going to say that that's representative of
30:46
his entire year. But I think over the last few
30:48
years it's been pretty impressive.
30:50
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I think he was.
30:53
He's been on the. NL save leader last year, wasn't
30:55
he? He was in that conversation,
30:57
yeah. And then he was like homeless in
31:00
terms of a job there for a minute, right?
31:01
Because we're thinking where we were talking.
31:03
I remember having the conversation of like, why?
31:05
Why is there not as much activity for Kyle Finnegan?
31:09
And I think he ended up, what was it?
31:10
He came back on a one year deal or something.
31:12
Something like that, I don't know.
31:14
I think this is this is his time to to to get out of town.
31:21
I think the Phillies go and get this guy.
31:22
I like said, you need a solution.
31:25
I like your thought process. I'm actually going to go a
31:29
different direction to fill that closer role for the Phillies.
31:32
I'm saying David Bednar. Seen his name floated around?
31:38
Yeah, and I just, I don't know, I'm just same thing, kind of
31:45
shooting from the hip. But I think we're on this right
31:47
page of knowing that the Phillies need to secure the end
31:50
of that bullpen. But for my Kyle Finnegan pick, I
31:54
haven't gone to the to the Cubs. All right, yeah, I think it's
31:59
been a little bit of a hodgepodge back end from the
32:03
from the Cubs closing games down.
32:05
So I got him going to the Cubs, but sticking with the Phillies.
32:10
Do you have them buying anyone else?
32:13
I'm curious if there is a name that you and I are going to land
32:17
on that we agree on. Well, I think you your list
32:21
entails just more names generally.
32:24
Yeah, but we've talked about this name and I don't think it's
32:27
a very surprising pick because a lot of people have had this.
32:30
Cedric Mullins. Yeah, Cedric Mullins and that's
32:33
the one. I like that.
32:35
I like that. Pick yeah, just a veteran that I
32:38
think can very much slide into a little bit of a platoon roll.
32:46
And I don't know, I was just going to give you quality
32:49
baseball anytime he's on the field, I feel like may not be an
32:53
everyday guy, but like, I don't think they need that right now,
32:56
but they do need, they just need more production out of center
33:00
field. That's been the story for the
33:02
Phillies for a few years, I think.
33:04
At what point do we give up on them this sort of a separate
33:07
conversation? At what point do we give up on
33:10
the Mike Trout back to Philly conversation?
33:13
Oh yeah, I gave up on that a little bit ago.
33:15
Few years. I guess it's so socially
33:17
acceptable to be holding though, holding on to that dream.
33:21
Would have been cool but would have loved to see Bryce Harper
33:24
and my child in the same uniform.
33:25
I think that'd be. That would have been that would
33:29
have been a chapter of baseball that I think we would have
33:31
looked back on so fondly. Like with the narrative, with
33:34
the narrative like their. Individual narratives is it?
33:38
No, it's not. But I'm I'm just asking when
33:40
it's So what? Like how?
33:42
How much longer will it be socially acceptable to be
33:44
holding on to that dream? Because I feel like that could
33:46
have been such a cool chapter in this game, man.
33:49
I respect the dream. You look back, I mean, it was it
33:52
was Trout versus Harper. It was what is he doing that the
33:55
others not and vice versa. Yeah.
33:58
And, and we had a moment in time where I feel like it could have
34:03
happened if the Phillies wanted to really make a splash.
34:07
But I'm just wondering if we're if we're out of time on that if
34:10
if, if if the sand pebbles have fallen to the bottom.
34:15
I think they have. I think they have.
34:18
Sad day it is. Wrapping it up for the Phillies.
34:23
Is that Cedy Mullins? Cedy Mullins, That's all I got
34:26
for the Phills, but I again, just two holes.
34:30
They're in a good spot. They're leading the division,
34:31
obviously playing good ball. It's I I don't think it needs a
34:35
ton of help, but those are two names that I don't think are
34:37
super expensive that can plug holes for them.
34:45
Let's jump over to the central. You, you, Yeah, you may want to
34:53
start Cubs. I actually I think I want to
34:54
start Brewers here. That's good because I don't have
34:57
any Brewers. A name you already mentioned,
35:00
actually, you had Josh Naylor going to the Red Sox.
35:04
I've got Josh Naylor going to the Brewers because currently.
35:07
The never ending hole at first base.
35:09
Oh my goodness, man. Andrew Vaughn.
35:12
Andrew Vaughn. Who has looked OK?
35:15
Hasn't he? As a Brewer, all I saw is it I
35:17
saw a highlight of him hitting a Homer in his first AB.
35:20
If 2O5 with 7 jacks is OK and on Brewer though on an on base at
35:26
2:43. I mean, does it matter like this
35:28
is it's his 2025 campaign? No disrespect, no following any
35:34
of those, no. It's just statistical data.
35:37
I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not necessarily taking a narrative
35:41
here. I'm just sharing numbers.
35:42
I hear you. As a Brewer 2 Jacks, he's
35:48
hitting 350 / 7 games. Hey, come on.
35:52
I, I mean, sure like it's, it, has it been a, a, a good start
35:58
to his tenure there? Sure.
36:00
Is this a guy you want to take into October?
36:05
No, but I like that pick. It gives them a little attitude
36:09
too. They need a little chip on their
36:11
shoulder. That's what I'm saying.
36:12
I like that pick. We've we've.
36:15
Maybe at times disliked Josh Naylor for said chip, but in
36:19
this situation, I think we might be a fan of it if it if it means
36:23
giving the Brewers a little little bit of little bit of
36:26
juice. He's the quintessential guy you
36:30
you hate to play against but love to have on your team.
36:33
That's what he is, and I think the Brewers need a low attitude.
36:37
Josh Naylor on the year, hitting 291 with 11 jacks, 58 ribs.
36:42
He's getting on base of the clip of 360 OPS, 813 OPS plus A-125.
36:48
Good for you. So that's, that's my pick.
36:50
Can I just, can I knock out one more central pick real quick?
36:54
Please do. While I'm while I'm riding this
36:56
train. Let's go.
37:03
I think I've actually said this on here before, but my my pick
37:06
hasn't really changed. Although I'd I want to talk, I
37:09
want to, I want you to talk me through this.
37:11
OK, I've still got Sandy Alcantra going to the.
37:14
Cubs, as do I. Cubs currently sit at 20 games
37:19
over 500. They're 59 and 39.
37:23
But let me ask you, this is sandy enough of a splash for a
37:32
Cubs team that is having such a dominant year?
37:35
Because we talk all the time. I'm a huge proponent of putting
37:39
your foot down on the throat of the rest of the division, the
37:42
rest of the league. But you know, based on where
37:45
you're at in the grand scheme, like the landscape of the rest
37:48
of the league. If you have a chance to put your
37:51
foot down on the throat of the rest of the division, the rest
37:53
of the league, or even all of baseball, like if you're the
37:55
Dodgers, for example, or maybe even the Tigers, I feel like you
38:01
got to do it. And I feel like the Cubs really
38:04
have a chance here, given the way that they've been playing
38:06
this year, to really make a statement at the deadline.
38:11
And I'm just wondering if this is it.
38:13
I I don't know if this is enough.
38:15
Well, that's why I paired it with these other moves, I think.
38:18
I think if you get Gino Suarez, if you get a Kyle Finn again,
38:21
and if you then followed up by getting a Sandy Alcantra, like
38:25
you have filled every spot and I think you can kind of get by
38:32
with one of those three names maybe not performing fully.
38:37
But Sandy, I mean, he's got control.
38:40
He's we know what he's capable of based on his history.
38:45
I I think it's a little bit of a weird year.
38:47
I don't think it's been terrible.
38:49
I don't think it's been like as low as a Zach Gallon, but it
38:53
hasn't been great. And that's why I have them
38:57
saying like, this isn't our one sexy splashy move.
39:00
I think it's paired with something else like a Gino
39:02
Suarez. So I don't know if you have the
39:04
Cubs doing anything else outside of Sandy, but that's my logic
39:09
behind it. Let's go get Sandy.
39:11
Let's also go get somebody that we know is a little more secure.
39:16
Not me. He just hasn't had the turn
39:21
around that I think the the Marlins were really hoping for.
39:24
Like I said, we we, we touched on it briefly, I think maybe a
39:29
month or two back where we're like, you've got a limited
39:31
amount of time if you're the Marlins where you can really
39:34
bank on him turning things around and getting that stock
39:37
back up. Dude, he's had one, maybe two
39:42
starts that I think would pass as al contrast.
39:47
Very good. Yeah.
39:49
One of one of which being against the Pirates.
39:53
That's why. No disrespect.
39:55
It's that's why it's interesting for me because like, and I have
40:02
another name that I can kind of tie into this conversation.
40:05
I'll visit down the road, but there's nothing if you're the
40:09
Marlins, which they mismanage nearly every possible
40:14
opportunity. But they don't have to move him
40:18
this year. Like, if if you feel like it,
40:21
you're not getting offers you want, you still have three more
40:25
years to try again. You know what I mean?
40:28
So I think that's why the Cubs make sense to me because it is a
40:37
it is a let's push chips in the middle of the table now.
40:41
And it's also, hey, Kyle Tucker, look what we're trying to do to
40:45
continue building this thing up, to bring it back.
40:49
So I think that's why Sandy checks that box.
40:51
I think that's why the Cubs are one of the few teams that will
40:54
likely be able to answer the asking price that the Marlins
40:59
will have for him. I don't know what their farm
41:01
looks like, but it's just it to me, it seems like the Cubs don't
41:06
really have any other choice but to be strong buyers.
41:11
And that's why I see it happening.
41:14
And I think I don't know who knows.
41:16
And and even if he doesn't become the ace Sandy Alcantra,
41:19
at least there's some there's some rotational depth.
41:23
And again, you're checking that box of showing Kyle Tucker.
41:26
Hey, we're also in on the future.
41:27
It's not just this year. So, yeah, and one to clarify my
41:33
comment from earlier about he's, he's had one, maybe two stars
41:36
that have passed as like very good.
41:38
That's, that's only going back to the beginning of June.
41:41
So I'm really just looking over like the last month and a half,
41:44
like really, really zeroing in on that, that time frame I was
41:47
talking about where we were hoping for a turn around as we
41:50
approach the deadline over the course of the season, though
41:53
obviously not great. But if you really look at the
41:56
last month, month and a half to where, like I said, I think the
41:59
Marlins were hoping to bump up that value as high as they
42:03
possibly could until it became time to ship them out.
42:07
You just haven't you haven't gotten much from them.
42:09
So I don't know it. I'll be curious to see.
42:11
I'm with you though. I don't.
42:12
I don't think you have to do it, and I think they'd be wise not
42:16
to. But they're they mismanage
42:18
everything. They right do the opposite of
42:21
what everyone thinks. Yeah, which is what, you know, I
42:23
was like the Marlins very could very, very well could ship him
42:27
out. So I at least want to have a
42:29
team attached to him, you know, if we're going predictions.
42:31
But I think if you're looking at a smart business move or a smart
42:35
move if you're the Marlins, it would be to not.
42:38
Yeah, but that's just me. I'm with you.
42:40
I'm with you. You got anything else going on
42:43
in the NL Central or you want to slide to the AL Central?
42:46
Because I feel like there's a lot to talk about.
42:49
There is. We I'm just now realizing I
42:53
forgot to slide in one National League West pick.
42:58
Then I think we can we can jump over to the AL.
43:03
Oh yeah, I think we probably have the same one.
43:06
I have a lot more NL picks actually.
43:08
So maybe that's good that we don't move on yet.
43:12
I've got. Wow, I have a lot more NL than
43:16
AL. So you may have to you you can
43:18
lead the way in the American League, but I've got Johann
43:22
Duran being acquired by the Los Angeles Dodgers because when you
43:29
look we're we're we talk all the time this time of year about is
43:32
this is your solution. If you are a contending team, is
43:36
your solution at this position or position group viable?
43:44
I don't know if the back end of the rotation as as many options
43:50
as they have. I don't know if they if they
43:52
have a guy. You saying bullpen?
43:55
Yeah, you said rotation. So I'm just excuse.
43:58
Me, bullpen, Tanner Scott, Kirby, Yates.
44:02
Not the combo they're looking for right now.
44:05
Maybe. Maybe shift them to some higher
44:07
leverage situations and then allow Duran to come in and be
44:10
the guy that locks it down for you.
44:12
Yeah, understandable. Lot of control left.
44:16
They obviously have pieces to move, so I don't think that's a
44:19
crazy pick. Top five farm system if I'm not
44:22
mistaken. Yeah, and like very, very much
44:26
like big league ready guys, names that can move, you know,
44:30
and Andy Paw has, I could very much see leading the charge in
44:34
in a move at some point. I have the Dodgers focusing more
44:38
on their rotation and less on their bullpen.
44:42
So I have the Dodgers buying 2 rotation names.
44:48
One sexy 1 not so sexy 2. I say Dodgers, you say Kikuchi
44:57
to the Dodgers. Wow, you like that?
45:00
Well done. Yeah, well done.
45:03
Thanks. Yeah dude, just an inning eater.
45:14
Just but a typical name that is probably, you know, middle of
45:20
the road and it's kind of solid elsewhere.
45:21
But then all of a sudden you just see him have a ridiculous
45:25
run down the stretch for the Dodgers.
45:26
That's just I, I, they always find somebody like that.
45:31
So I have him staying in town, but just walking across the
45:34
street and then my other name that the Dodgers are going to
45:38
get is a little more sexy. And going back to the point I
45:41
made earlier of having a lot of names that are big league ready,
45:47
ready to roll. Here's a team that needs some
45:51
big league ready names in the Pittsburgh Pirates.
45:56
I've Mitch Keller going to the LA Dodgers because they can
46:02
afford it. They can afford to make that
46:04
move. And I think they're similar
46:08
where like maybe the Pirates don't answer calls for too many
46:13
teams and and are willing to offer Mitch Keller up to too
46:18
many teams, but the Dodgers just have like a lot of big league
46:21
ready to roll guys. So I see that happening.
46:28
And in a weird way, I almost wonder if if if a phone call
46:32
that features the Pirates and the Dodgers, if the Pirates
46:36
almost are in a position of leverage.
46:39
Because I think with that name, yes, yeah.
46:41
Because like we talked about there, you're talking about a
46:44
daughter scene that has a top five farm system where the
46:47
pirates are going. We may, we may mismanage guys
46:52
from time to time or maybe more so often than not, but we have
46:58
eyes and we can see how deep you're rolling right now.
47:02
So we're not we're, we're hanging up the phone.
47:05
If it's less than fill in the blank and you know, the Dodgers
47:08
may have to pony up because I don't think if you're any other
47:12
team in baseball right now, you're not, I don't think you're
47:14
just going to roll over to the Dodgers.
47:17
You know, ideally, if you're any team in baseball, you wouldn't
47:20
want to roll over generally. But I, I think, you know, as
47:24
the, as the Dodgers continue to build this dynasty that they've
47:27
got working, I, I don't think anybody that has a competitive
47:30
fiber in their body. If you're in an ownership
47:33
position or a decision making position with another team
47:37
around the league, if you're going to want to just, you know,
47:40
you know, kiss the ring and, and roll over when it comes to
47:43
negotiating with the Dodgers. So I think the Dodgers have a
47:45
little bit of a target on their back when it comes to these
47:48
discussions. Be interesting to see how it.
47:50
Plays with you, too, the deadline.
47:51
I Yeah, there's very much, like I said, I think there's teams
47:54
that are like when you're saying, willing to roll over,
47:58
it's like that you got to meet this asking price.
48:01
I know what you have. I know what you're capable of
48:03
giving. And these are what I what I need
48:05
and what I want from you. And I think the Pirates very
48:08
much have that leverage in the Miss Keller conversation.
48:10
So. And the Dodgers are, I think,
48:14
more capable of meeting that asking price than any other team
48:17
in baseball. You got any more Dodgers?
48:21
I got my last NL. Let's hear it.
48:24
And I'll pick and I'm going to, I'm going to throw it in there.
48:28
But you're going to have to talk about it more than I am.
48:32
Jared Duran to the Padres. Oh.
48:34
Oh, I thought we're still talking Dodgers.
48:35
I was like, don't say that. Yeah, I've.
48:38
I've heard a lot of Jared Duran to the Padres and I was actually
48:41
this was a name I wanted to talk through with you because I know
48:44
I'd mentioned probably A to I guess at this point two to three
48:48
weeks ago where I was like, you know, I feel like they they end
48:51
up doing this because they don't now that Duran's I mean, going
48:54
back to the start of this month, since July 1st Jan, Duran's
49:00
hitting three O 411 ribbies, seven runs scored.
49:05
He is at a place now, you know, talking about that turn around
49:10
time leading up to the deadline. I think the Red Sox were
49:13
hopeful, assuming that the conversations were being had
49:16
internally about is this a guy we want to move out?
49:18
They were probably hopeful that he would turn things around
49:20
because he had, he had a less than impressive first half when
49:26
you compare it to last year, which I know is a tough standard
49:28
because, I mean, he was a great year last year, yeah, an insane
49:31
year last year. But still comparatively, you
49:34
know, all things considered, even for his Sanders, I don't
49:37
think was having the greatest start to the year.
49:40
So he was able to turn things around.
49:42
However, it coincides with the fact that the Red Sox, as I
49:47
mentioned, went on a little bit of a heater.
49:50
You know, 10 game win streak heading into the break.
49:52
You know, you lose the first two out of the break.
49:54
Coming out of the other side of the break to the Cubs, it looks
49:57
like they're going to. Looks like they're going to take
49:59
the last game this. Looks like they're going to seal
50:00
the deal. Salvage, salvage a win here so
50:04
you're not getting swept because that would have been a real
50:07
vibes killer again, especially when you stack it up against
50:10
that 10 game win streak going into the break.
50:12
So I'm in a I'm in a weird spot with this Jaron Duran thing
50:15
because I'm like. I get that, you know.
50:19
Does this, how much of an impact does this have on the clubhouse?
50:23
How much of an impact does this have on the remainder of the
50:25
season? I know you can't.
50:26
You have to think of, you have to think of macro to some degree
50:30
with these moves, especially with the with the control that
50:34
he has left. Here's a vibe killer though for
50:38
sure as a vibe killer. So I'm, I'm just, I'm wondering,
50:41
did the Red Sox say no, we have to stick with the plan.
50:45
Our plan was to ship out an. Outfielder, that's what I was
50:49
going to ask you because like how much of this organization
50:52
have you seen just kind of like stick to the plan no matter what
50:58
the performance is saying do. It's it's tough because you you
51:02
have to give away, you have to ship out an outfitter.
51:04
There's we have too many out dealers.
51:07
And personally I've really, I've really come around Jay and
51:12
Duran. I yeah, I'm out on, I'm out on,
51:15
I'm out on a break. Not nothing personal.
51:18
I like William Brayu, but I'd rather hang on to Jay and Duran
51:22
because of the just the tools that he brings to the.
51:26
Table him and Jackson Merrill in the same line up is insane.
51:29
This. I don't want to talk about that.
51:32
Good night. That's exciting.
51:34
Padres can have William Bray if that's if they want an, if they
51:37
want an outfielder from the Red Sox, they can take William Bray.
51:39
But I need, I need Jaron Duran. I think I've decided.
51:43
I think I want to understand. Put that's fair.
51:46
That's fair. All right.
51:47
Well, that rounds out my my NLU, at least for the buyer side of
51:55
things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:01
And if I miss anybody, I'll, I'll be sure to come back.
52:03
But. Gino Suarez with another tater,
52:07
that's three and two games, by the way.
52:10
Price just goes up and up. Everyone he hits, oh, where do
52:16
we go? Where do we go?
52:20
Who? Q Let's talk.
52:25
And then a team that we were we were sort of, you know, talking
52:28
about before we hopped on. Let's let's talk with the
52:30
Guardians because you said that you would be shocked if Emmanuel
52:35
Claus has moved. I would be.
52:39
So you don't even have you have him going nowhere, you have him
52:42
staying put. Yeah, I do.
52:45
I do. I don't really have any guardian
52:47
stuff of note at all. Interesting.
52:49
OK, yeah, because I I saw the report that said they're ready
52:53
to listen to offers for all but four guys.
52:56
That includes J Ram, Stephen Kwan, Klaus A and Kate Smith.
53:02
Yeah, yeah, I'm with that. I think those are the names you
53:08
got to hold onto. And no disrespect, I just
53:12
there's not really other names that I think are worthy of put
53:15
on this list for today's episode.
53:17
I think may have some impacts elsewhere at some point.
53:20
But like, I don't know if one of those four names gets moved,
53:28
then maybe. But like, I I don't know.
53:32
Jay Rams, obviously your future. I love what Stephen Kwan brings
53:36
to the game in class AI. Don't I just, it's weird to me
53:43
for them to have the success they did last year and and get
53:49
rid of any of those names and think that it's like it's time
53:52
to completely burn it down. I don't think so.
53:55
I think it's just, hey, you know, we kind of ran into a buzz
53:58
saw with the Tigers this year and we don't need to fully
54:02
unpack everything. Just run it back next year, see
54:05
if we can do it a little different.
54:08
No need to overreact, just retool and.
54:12
And readjust, yeah, that's where I'm at with them.
54:14
So I don't, I don't have any guardians on here.
54:16
Buy or sell? Interesting.
54:19
All right, How about out West? I think we've mentioned the
54:24
Mariners. You got anybody?
54:26
Astros, Mariners. I got, I got some good Astros,
54:30
Mariners stuff. Actually, you mentioned a name
54:35
earlier in Ryan O'hearn. I have him going to the Mariners
54:41
like that. It's been a little weird at
54:43
first base I I think I saw Rowdy Tilez getting a BS.
54:48
Yeah, yesterday I had to do a double take.
54:50
I was like I I completely forgot that this.
54:52
Was the reality. Yeah.
54:55
I it's just, it's just a strange spot.
54:57
I I think that makes a lot of sense.
55:01
I don't have thems doing much else, but I we know how they
55:06
kind of operate. It's just they don't, they don't
55:08
really get too sexy with it. Can I throw out a name for the
55:11
Mariners? Are you getting sexy with it?
55:13
Depends. All right, hit me.
55:17
How do we feel about Marcelo Zuna?
55:20
To the I have that name, but I don't have them going there.
55:25
Like I hey, I said this right before we hopped on.
55:27
I was I it had been a minute since I checked in on the the
55:31
current state of the Seattle Mariners offense.
55:35
We talked about this. We had been talking about this
55:39
for a while. Will your Bray you by the way, 2
55:42
jacks on the day. So you want to talk about the
55:46
you want to talk about the the price, the price going up.
55:49
What let's let's keep this rolling.
55:52
Get a haul back for a Bray you and and we'll keep the vibes
55:56
rolling. But the Seattle Mariners
56:00
offense, dude, ninth most runs scored in all of baseball.
56:07
They've got the six most homers in all of baseball.
56:10
And I think adding. That's Mr. Mr. Raleigh, but.
56:15
I mean, sure, but it like we, we talked about, we're at the point
56:19
of the year where certain certain statistical categories I
56:23
think are, are you have to be more reflective of a team effort
56:29
than just to say like it's not we're not we're not in May
56:32
anymore where that could be more impactful.
56:34
And I, yes, I know Cal Raleigh's having a career, but still, the
56:38
fact they've scored the 9th 9th most runs is speaking to their
56:41
production. At the very least, even if you,
56:43
even if you take Raleigh out of the equation, you have to you
56:45
still have to be scoring runs to some degree to be in the top 10.
56:49
But if you had a certified bopper like Marcelo Ozuna, that
56:55
could help. I don't want to say eliminate
57:00
grumblings of baseball fans like you and I who are we'll just
57:08
stay down on the Mariners. Like how, how could you let what
57:12
happened in the American League West over the last month
57:14
happened to me? Making a move like that could
57:20
help at the very least, a piece of your fan base and show that
57:26
you're not just going to the the classic When I I hate when teams
57:30
do this. Something, something has
57:33
happened where you've who knows, maybe you've drastically
57:37
underperformed or you've let a division lead slip away and then
57:41
the only thing you get out of the front office is we're happy
57:46
with the team that we have. I don't for the sake of the
57:49
Mariners, I don't want that to be the case this year.
57:53
I don't want you to just say, well, we let the division out of
57:57
our out of our grip, but we really like the team that we
58:00
have here. You can't ride, you can't ride
58:03
the Cal Raleigh train the entire season.
58:05
It's very true. That's going to be enough.
58:07
Is it like I said, is he is he having an MVP caliber year?
58:10
Yes, but you're going to need to add more supplement the offense
58:14
that, like I said, is having a good having a good run right
58:18
now. But you don't want to just rest
58:19
on on those laurels and think that that's that's going to get
58:23
it. Done.
58:24
How dare they? Well, the team they're playing
58:27
right now, the team they're chasing, the division, the
58:31
Houston Astros, I think they're going in and I think they're
58:37
going to make one big bomber of a move.
58:40
And I think they take this division because, again, I just
58:46
don't have a ton of faith in the Mariners and they've never shown
58:49
us that they can come back and and you know what I mean?
58:53
Well, let's just, let's call like it is, they're taking the
58:55
division even without whatever move that you're about to share,
58:58
because I know I, I'm with you, I don't have, I don't have that
59:03
much faith in the Mariners that I think they can, one, close the
59:05
gap and two, hold the hold the lead.
59:08
I think the I think the Astros get real sexy and arguably the
59:12
best trade at the deadline. I think they pull all the
59:17
strings. I think they go get Joe Ryan and
59:19
Byron Buxton from the Twins. Wow.
59:22
Yeah, I think they get both of them.
59:25
Are we, are we hearing rumours of a package deal like that
59:28
though? I think the Twins are going to
59:31
sell. I think Joe Ryan is having a
59:33
spectacular year. I've heard Joe Ryan rumours to
59:37
the Astros, I've heard Byron Buxton rumours to the Astros.
59:40
I haven't heard anything of them being packaged together, but
59:43
they need both. They need both.
59:46
The Astros need some some consistency in in the outfield.
59:52
And I know you look at Byron Bucks and you're like, well,
59:54
it's far from consistent, but the dudes having a really good
59:57
year an All Star. I, I I think it makes sense.
1:00:03
I think it does. But aren't they like the bottom
1:00:05
of the list when it comes to their their farm?
1:00:07
Like do they have the capital for this?
1:00:09
I don't know. We'll see.
1:00:12
We'll see. But they need the rotation help
1:00:15
because it's it's a lot of Framber and and Hunter Brown and
1:00:19
then it's kind of a big gap before some of those other names
1:00:23
have shown up in in done what the Astros rotation has done in
1:00:29
the past. And I think every team needs to
1:00:32
look at the rotation and say we need 3 bonafide starters minimum
1:00:38
to make a run and they need to go all in.
1:00:41
I don't know what that looks like.
1:00:44
I don't know who they move on from.
1:00:49
I mean that I have them go does. That mean Cam Smith is out of
1:00:51
the picture. I think Cam Smith might have to
1:00:55
be involved in that. I don't know.
1:00:56
We'll see. That's what I'm saying like you
1:00:58
think. But I mean, I think he's had a
1:01:02
good year, but like him and Chaz McCormick and, you know,
1:01:05
whatever else they've been doing in the outfield just isn't
1:01:07
getting it done. Boy, what's a heck of a what?
1:01:15
Do you think of that it it's a gut punch where I where you look
1:01:20
at it and you're like, man, the Astros are here.
1:01:22
They come again. Yeah, they, I mean, they're, you
1:01:24
know, dropping the hammer with a move like that.
1:01:26
And, and I'm sick of, I've said it before, I'll say it again,
1:01:31
I'm sick of the Astros just continually being there like,
1:01:36
yeah, either I don't know, man, like hand over the reins or, or,
1:01:43
or or something. But it's just every year, OK, is
1:01:47
this the year? And this has been the narrative
1:01:49
for I don't know how long, but it's is this going to be the
1:01:54
year where we finally see the the the fall off for the Astros?
1:02:00
That's what we thought. They lose a guy here, they ship
1:02:03
a guy out there. Then the summer comes and
1:02:06
they're have a a nice little lead on the division.
1:02:10
Every time. Yeah, gets old.
1:02:14
But yeah, I mean, I, I like those names.
1:02:16
Moving on from the Mets or excuse me, from the from the
1:02:19
Twins and another name you mentioned earlier just to kind
1:02:24
of wrap up the Twins, but I wanted to bring it back a
1:02:27
different direction. Johann Duran, I think we'll be a
1:02:30
Yankee. I think that he's got some
1:02:36
control. He's still in arbitration, I
1:02:37
believe. I just looked it up.
1:02:41
That's your big Luke Weaver guy. Not as of late, man, it's been,
1:02:45
it's been looking rough. Devin Williams not being what
1:02:50
they thought he would be. He's been closing up games and
1:02:53
it's been OK, but it hasn't been like fully confident in that
1:02:58
rotation or, excuse me, in that bullpen where we can say, all
1:03:02
right, lock down, we're going to win this game because he's in
1:03:06
just doesn't feel that way. And I don't know what it is
1:03:09
about his attitude. It drives me nuts.
1:03:11
But I talked earlier about the Yankees giving up their
1:03:15
prospects for control for for guys that they believe in that
1:03:18
have control. Yuan Duran still has two more
1:03:22
years of arbitration after this. So I think that kind of allows
1:03:28
them to move on from Devin Williams come this offseason
1:03:31
because there's no reason you've seen anything to bring him back.
1:03:36
And Luke Weaver, they've said it before, like they like using
1:03:39
Luke Weaver as the firefighter man.
1:03:41
Just like whenever there's a fire, we want to bring him in
1:03:44
and he's capable of doing multiple innings.
1:03:47
They like seeing him in the sixth, they like seeing him in
1:03:49
the 7th, the 8th. Like they like using him that
1:03:51
way and I think that's a really good piece to have, especially
1:03:55
in the postseason. But you still need the
1:03:57
confidence in a closer and Duran's looked pretty good.
1:04:01
So that gives you 3 options to just go with whatever the hot
1:04:05
hand is during the postseason. When there is a fire, that is
1:04:10
when you typically need the firefighter.
1:04:13
Most of the time, most. Of the time, every of the time.
1:04:19
Every single moment of those times, I've got the Yankees
1:04:25
doing another move you did, and we can move on.
1:04:29
You did extra credit. I I, I mean I have to double
1:04:32
check but I think I'm coming up on or at the the the near end of
1:04:37
my list. So I got some, I got a lot of
1:04:39
names, so I'll spitball. With you as we go.
1:04:43
But I, these were these were the moves that I, I was feeling good
1:04:46
about. So let's let's keep it rolling
1:04:49
with what you've got left in the AL.
1:04:51
Well, I've got the Yanks doing one more move.
1:04:55
I've talked about control. I've talked about that's who
1:04:58
they're going to give up prospects for.
1:05:01
I liked Gino Suarez. I think there's a lot of
1:05:04
conversation there. But like, it goes against what
1:05:06
they've tried to get away from this year.
1:05:09
And it's not great at third base, lot of strikeout, but
1:05:14
brings pop. I think they've tried to move on
1:05:17
from that, hopefully. So where I'm looking the other
1:05:21
way is I'm looking at the Rockies and I'm looking at a
1:05:25
package deal with Ryan McMahon and Jake Bird.
1:05:33
Not a super sexy pick. And this is to who?
1:05:37
To the Yanks, I think with the control of Ryan McMahon, very
1:05:43
good defense, very much above average defense, Jake Bird
1:05:49
quietly solid over the last couple years.
1:05:52
They need bullpen help desperately and they're
1:05:57
obviously not going to go without plugging the third base
1:06:05
hole this trade deadline. So I think Ryan McMahon gets it
1:06:09
done. I do think Spencer Jones is
1:06:12
probably going to be in a rocky uniform in order to get that
1:06:17
done because there is a lot of control with Ryan McMahon.
1:06:20
And I don't know, that lefty swing in Yankee Stadium just
1:06:23
kind of makes sense. So I'm sure they do some type of
1:06:29
rotational help. Maybe it is a Zach Allen like
1:06:32
you said, but I don't really know.
1:06:36
I don't know if they go super much more splashy than that.
1:06:39
I think, I think Johann Duran is the one that like kind of leads
1:06:42
the charge for the Yankees deadline.
1:06:46
Speaking of the Rockies, I've got them going after Juan Soto,
1:06:55
really making really willing to eat the entire contract, willing
1:06:59
to eat the the entire contract and then some.
1:07:02
They're actually going to pay him a bonus.
1:07:04
Really looking to make a splash in this league and and really
1:07:07
take take over baseball by storm.
1:07:10
Yeah, and they really know what they're doing when it comes to
1:07:12
their front office, so I, I like that.
1:07:14
They really know about locking down long term guys that are
1:07:19
really going to be a centerpiece for their future.
1:07:22
That's right. And when they say they're going
1:07:24
to keep a guy around long term, they do it.
1:07:27
They sure do. And what better guy to do it
1:07:30
with than the Juan Soto? Juan Soto, you are a Colorado
1:07:34
Rocky. There it is.
1:07:36
It's done. Put it in Sharpie, keep it in
1:07:41
the AL East if you want to keep spitballing here.
1:07:47
Their division leader. They are going to have to prove
1:07:52
that they are legit. So the Blue Jays are going to
1:07:54
buy. You mentioned one name already,
1:07:59
but let's talk about a name we haven't mentioned yet.
1:08:02
How about Seth Lugo from the Royals bouncing over to the Blue
1:08:08
Jays, really just giving them a very legitimate, strong
1:08:13
rotation. And then the name that you have
1:08:18
mentioned, who I think can very much slide in and just
1:08:22
immediately fit the vibes is Marcela Zuna.
1:08:26
Oh I really like that pic. Yeah, I'm pretty confident with
1:08:30
that. It's not that I it's not that I
1:08:32
don't like your Seth Lugo pick, but it's set when, when, when in
1:08:36
the conversation. I don't know when you're talking
1:08:39
Seth Lugo and Marcel. Yeah, that that's obviously a
1:08:41
sexy pic. Yeah, but I think they I think
1:08:46
their bullpen looks to be in pretty good shape, especially on
1:08:49
the back end rotation. You know, still some question
1:08:54
marks there, but I think they've been better this year than in
1:08:56
the past. But I don't know something
1:08:58
about, you know, solidifying that.
1:09:01
And then Marcelo Zuna just feels like a, I don't know why that
1:09:06
seems so fitting to me, but it really, really does.
1:09:11
My my brain is struggling a little bit today.
1:09:14
Am I? Am I forgetting something?
1:09:17
Do they just have a revolving door at the DH spot?
1:09:19
Kinda, kinda, yeah. They've been kind of rotating
1:09:25
that a little bit. I looked up there.
1:09:32
Springer, Alejandro Kirk. See what I mean?
1:09:36
And that's like, even. Yeah, it.
1:09:38
Feels like Alejandro Kirk's mainly just like, hey, let's so
1:09:41
we can get Danny Jansen some some ABS.
1:09:47
But yeah, I mean the the the flexibility of some of these
1:09:54
other names. No, not Danny Jansen.
1:09:56
He's with the Rays. Not Danny Jansen, Who does.
1:09:59
Who was I thinking of? Heineman.
1:10:00
Heineman. Heineman, yeah, used to be a a
1:10:05
Blue Jay. Red Sox legend Danny.
1:10:06
Jansen yeah, but I mean like Hyneman coming into the mix, you
1:10:09
know, hitting looks good, but Kirk is just an excellent
1:10:14
defender. So and then the barger kid at
1:10:18
third base, like they've had like some delightful surprise.
1:10:21
But Santander, I, I don't know if you have time to, to allow
1:10:27
this to get figured out, Man, I, I don't know, I, it just feels
1:10:32
to me that Marcel Ozuna comes in immediately with right-handed
1:10:36
pop and like, I, I mean, what the order looks like.
1:10:42
But if you had, you know, Vlad and then Barger and then as a
1:10:46
Zuna like 2-3, four or three, 4-5.
1:10:51
Could Marcel Ozuna to the Jays be the twenty 20s version of
1:10:55
Edwin and Car and Carnacion? I think that checks out in.
1:11:00
Terms of vibes. I think that checks out.
1:11:03
Yeah, that's very much good. A good pull.
1:11:09
Throw up the parrot. We'll see.
1:11:12
We'll see. I've got a few minutes left.
1:11:15
You got a, you got, You got a couple that you went around out
1:11:18
with, Yes. Not to cut off your research
1:11:23
because I know. You.
1:11:24
I'm done. I mean this, this, these, the
1:11:26
last names finish it out. So we're good, not, no need to
1:11:31
spend a ton of time on it. But similar to the Sandy
1:11:34
Alcantara Alcantra, whatever conversation of hey, you don't
1:11:39
have to. You don't have to move them.
1:11:41
I think Louise Roberts stays with the White Sox just for how
1:11:44
bad it's been this year, there's no real sense of urgency to move
1:11:49
him right now. Might as well sell high.
1:11:51
And he is not at a moment of selling high right now.
1:11:55
So I think the White Sox sit on him.
1:11:57
I think the lasting take away with the Louise Robert Market
1:12:02
was when he came out himself and it was like, yeah, that this is
1:12:06
not really the the time, the year, the season for me right
1:12:10
now. And I think nothing's really
1:12:13
changed. So why, if you're the White Sox,
1:12:15
why would you try to force the issue?
1:12:16
Yeah, exactly. And then some of my favorite
1:12:21
picks, we we kind of briefly talked about them earlier in the
1:12:26
episode, but I have my favorite pick for last.
1:12:30
The first move that the Detroit Tigers make is Zac Eflin.
1:12:35
I think they go and get him from the O's ace.
1:12:38
Zac Eflin. Yeah, the the top tier saviour
1:12:43
of Baltimore. Upper echelon front and star Zac
1:12:48
Eflin from the O's. Yeah, I think they get some
1:12:51
innings out of him, but my favorite pick?
1:12:55
For last, I have all your picks. Of all my picks.
1:12:59
I like this, what do you got? The Detroit Tigers are going to
1:13:02
go get a Cy Young candidate in Jacob degrom.
1:13:07
The Tigers. Yeah, buddy.
1:13:11
Imagine Scooble 1. And healthy degrom.
1:13:16
Jacob degrom coming in Game 2. Talk me through this, what I
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mean? What sparked this?
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You sparked it when you started talking about their farm, what
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how deep they are and how much they're in a position to to push
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the chips in. And I think like.
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Is this is this the pick right before we hopped on, you were
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congratulating yourself and you're like, that's a great
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pick, Nate. Way to think of that.
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This is the OK this. Is the one.
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This is why I saved it for last. I like it.
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I, I don't, I'm not saying I disagree with your Gino pick.
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I I could see them doing both, but again, with Gino being a
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free agent, like that's just a rental.
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I I think there is some, I think it Stamps future.
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I think it's Stamps were legit. I think it's it says to the
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league and to the AL Central, this isn't a fluke.
1:14:13
We're having a great year, but this is our division for the
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foreseeable future. And I think this kind of move
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puts that puts that in line. I don't know if I hear you.
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Look at what my own you realize degrom is now I think third in
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in odds to win the Syon. Dude, he's put up a three war,
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three war season right now. I'm not.
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No, no. Look, I'm not doubting what he's
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done, but I don't. My only rebuttal would be that
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your your point about this stamping future at 37.
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I don't know. But I think it I'm not saying
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like he is the answer moving. I'm, I'm not saying like, oh,
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you look at the Tigers going on a dynasty run with degrom in
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that conversation. I think it it's what the move
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says, saying that like we are winning now we have the farm to
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move and we're willing to make these types of moves at the
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deadline. I think that's what it does and
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I think it turns around what they what they did last year,
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you know, and it's crazy to look at at a calendar year and say
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that right around this time they shipped out Jack Flaherty and
1:15:36
and it's like snuck into the post season and like kind of did
1:15:39
a little bit of a scare and maybe they regretted making that
1:15:44
move. I think this death dying says
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it's going to happen a little bit differently.
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I think this deadlines going to say now we're getting after it.
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And I like that 1-2 punch. I mean, who wouldn't?
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Who wouldn't? Wow, a real.
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Phone might end it, huh? Real bomb to drop there at the
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end. Where to, hey, where to round it
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out for us. That's that's saucy.
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That's real saucy. Those are all my names.
1:16:13
Perfect. Well, there you have it, the the
1:16:17
trade deadline predictions on behalf of the three O take look.
1:16:22
I'm looking forward to seeing when the when the wheels start
1:16:25
moving, when the wheels start turning for the league, when we
1:16:28
start get seeing some of these notifications pop up.
1:16:31
It's a fun time of year. Yeah, it is.
1:16:34
I think there's going to start. I think there's going to be a
1:16:36
little something, something this week, Be great.
1:16:39
If it happened before Wednesday's episode, that'd be
1:16:41
nice that. 'D be excellent.
1:16:43
Yeah. But if not, we'll still see you
1:16:45
guys Wednesday. Bring in episode 554 to you
1:16:53
coming Wednesday. But other than that, that's all
1:16:56
I've got. You got anything else before we
1:16:57
get out of here? Nope, Nope, that's all I got.
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I'm going to make some fajitas. Little early din din.
1:17:05
Love a good fajita. Yeah, I got nothing else.
1:17:08
So I guess we'll see you all Wednesday.
1:17:11
Keep an eye out for the vlog. Vlog will be dropping this week
1:17:15
so subscribe to the YouTube so you don't miss it.
1:17:20
I'll have that out this. Week recap and hop over to a
1:17:26
Philly podcast, Hey Catch Catch my boy KC making a guest
1:17:30
appearance. Here in just a few minutes
1:17:32
beyond the bank. Shout out our guy Henry.
1:17:35
We'll I'll be hopping over there previewing some socks fills,
1:17:39
maybe a little talk about our young sweet Prince, a whole lot
1:17:43
of talk about our young sweet Prince.
1:17:45
But yeah, the vlog wrapping up the thing about the vlog
1:17:48
recapping our our whole experience at All Star week.
1:17:52
So that'll be fun. I've had a lot of fun working on
1:17:54
it so. I'm excited to watch it man I
1:17:56
really am. I got like all of my family
1:17:58
asking about it too. Like obviously Co workers be
1:18:01
like send me a link when it comes out.
1:18:03
I yeah, I think the goal is by Tuesday, so like a week from
1:18:07
when the All Star game happened. So I'm hoping to have that So
1:18:11
plan to set aside. You may have to swap out like if
1:18:15
you're if you're ATV watcher, maybe swap out one of your 45
1:18:19
like 3045 minute episodes that you usually indulge in.
1:18:22
Maybe make plans this week to set aside some time for the vlog
1:18:25
because. There we go.
1:18:26
It's. Going to be, it's not going to
1:18:27
be a 10 minute vlog. It's going to be a little little
1:18:29
lengthier because we did a lot and in a 4/4 and 1/2 day span.
1:18:34
So yeah, keep an eye out for that.
1:18:37
I'll I'll post it on the Socialist, but it'll be it'll be
1:18:40
up on on YouTube. So go ahead and subscribe as I
1:18:43
mentioned. So don't miss it.
1:18:45
Other than that, that's all I got.
1:18:47
Don't go say some curveballs. We love you and as always,
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looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:18:52
Until next time, stay filthy.