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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for April eighth.
- 0:04As a reminder, RADIOI is a reading service intended for
- 0:07people who are blind or have other disabilities that make
- 0:11it difficult to read printed material. Your reader for today
- 0:15is Chris Greco. Today's front page headlines from The Washington
- 0:19Post are strike on playground shatters a city. Russian attack
- 0:24on Crivia Writh is the worst against children since it
- 0:28launched its full scale war. Trump opened to tariff deals,
- 0:33but no delay threatens new duties As China responds. CEO's
- 0:41boosters express doubts over trade war. Pundits, GOP legislators among
- 0:47Trump allies beginning to speak out. High Court lifts hold
- 0:51on Venezuelan deportations, but the justices also say detainees must
- 0:56be given due process rights. As social secure site crashes,
- 1:01doze slashes, Musk's team pushes to downsize the agency's IT
- 1:06staff amid tech issues, this time a muted Miasle's response.
- 1:15The first article from the front page of today's edition
- 1:18is entitled A Russia strike on a playground leaves Zelenski's
- 1:22hometown in anguish, by Lizzie Johnson and Serhil Korochuk. The
- 1:29priests arrived at the children's playground with a teddy bearer,
- 1:31swinging incense and chanting the names of the nine children
- 1:34who died here on Friday. Timofi Tavestuk, the three year
- 1:38old who loved hunting for ladybugs, Oleina Kutsenko and Daniel Nikositsi,
- 1:45fifteen year olds who had just started dating, telling their
- 1:47friends that it was serious armand triplets, a nine year
- 1:51old who had recently presented a book report at a
- 1:54school on one of his favorite reads about a fantastical
- 1:57land for children. Only to enter they had to sacrife
- 2:00some memory. Three days had passed since Russia struck the
- 2:03playground of the ballistic missile, killing twenty people, among them
- 2:07nine children in injuring ninety and what the United Nations
- 2:10Commissions on Human Rights said was the worst attack on
- 2:13juvenile since the beginning of Russia's full scale invasion to
- 2:16crid by leaders around the world would happen here at
- 2:19first draw as a muted response to the United States
- 2:22u S Ambassador to Ukraine, bridget A. Brink, initially did
- 2:25not mention mention Russia's role in the strike, before changing
- 2:31course on Sunday, saying that the US stood in solidarity
- 2:34with Ukraine. Kre Free, the hometown of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky,
- 2:41had barely begun to mourn its dead when Moscow falsely
- 2:44claimed the attack was a successful strike on a quote
- 2:47military target, as medic zipped the bodies of children into bags.
- 2:52On Friday, the Russian Defense Ministry claimed that it had
- 2:55killed eighty five officers at a meeting between commanders of
- 2:58the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Western instructors at a restaurant.
- 3:02The Washington Post reviewed security footage from the restaurant near
- 3:04the park, which showed employees cleaning up after an afternoon
- 3:07beauty industry forum hosted by a local business association. No
- 3:12military members were present, the video shows, and local officials
- 3:16and witnesses said only civilians were killed. To compare that
- 3:20statement with the reality seeing the bodies of all the kids,
- 3:23said Zivana Tolmach, thirty six, who attended the beauty forum
- 3:27and was hospitalized for a serious head injury from the strike.
- 3:30It haunts me. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov doubled down on
- 3:35Russia's claims during a Monday news conference rushing off a
- 3:39question about whether Moscow might have made a mistake with
- 3:41inaccurate intelligence. I suggest that we focus here on the
- 3:45statements of our Ministry of Defense, Peskov said. Our military
- 3:49hits exclusively military and near military targets. On Monday morning,
- 3:54the priest stood in the damp spring grass a soccer
- 3:56balls kick away from where the missile buried five feet
- 4:01burrowed five feet into the earth, and prayed for the
- 4:03strike's victims. They included seven year old Ratislavatsko, who was
- 4:08sitting in the back seat of his parents car near
- 4:10the playground with his ba sister, who survived, also killed
- 4:15with seven year old Arena Samadina, who was playing on
- 4:18the swings with her four year old cousin, who was
- 4:20undergoing her second life saving surgery. Ariana's grandfather, watching from
- 4:25a park bench, died as well. There are no words
- 4:28that we can find for families who lost the most
- 4:30sacred thing, said the head priest, Mercury Scorhoud to a
- 4:35gathering of neighbors bundled in winter coats and wool hats,
- 4:38faces drawn like a bitter april sky. His stepped past
- 4:42two ribbons of caution tape placing the teddy bear on
- 4:45the sandbox. The Iskander missile, launched from Russia's Tagarong region
- 4:51about two hundred and fifty miles away, reached the playground
- 4:54within minutes. Ukrainian authority said it exploded grenade sized bomblets
- 4:59in the showering the area with shrapnel and eviscerating everything
- 5:03in their path. Razor sharp shards of metals stripped back
- 5:07bark from the trees. They shattered windows, snapped the chains
- 5:11off the swing set, punctured corticized holes in the metal slide,
- 5:14and poundered holes in the pavement. And they sliced through
- 5:17small bodies, leaving blood stains in the sand by the
- 5:19merry go round. The hardest part is to explain to
- 5:22the parents that they don't have a kid anymore, said
- 5:25Nazar Mesura and an antithesiologist at a local hospital who
- 5:30treated so many victims after the strike that he knew
- 5:32them only by triage number, not name. The playground has
- 5:37become a repository for the city's grief. Every surface now
- 5:40covered in spring flowers, plush animals, candy bars, and toy cars.
- 5:44The teeter tutter tipped under the weight of gifts candles burned,
- 5:48the smell sweet and overpowering, as nearby neighbor sliced plywood
- 5:52to cover their gaping windows. A thirteen year old boy
- 5:56in a blue shirt hoodie pulled up over his brown
- 5:59hair a fist sized chunk of shrapnel from the soil
- 6:02to show his friends. Approaching the swing set, they pushed
- 6:05their fingers through the jagged holes in the metal frame. Already,
- 6:09neighbors were debating what would become of the playground. I
- 6:13think this place needs to be bulldozed, said vlad Eumicrin,
- 6:16a twenty nine year old medic who lives near by.
- 6:19He gripped his three year old daughter in his arms,
- 6:21her pink velcrow sneakers kicking into his side with a
- 6:25bouquet of flowers in his hand. Their long afternoons on
- 6:28the swing set were over another piece of her childhood
- 6:30lost to war. The cease fire is laughable, he added,
- 6:34They just want to destroy us. By Monday morning, third
- 6:38grade teacher and Ntelia Freelik still hadn't decided how to
- 6:42explain to her students why Hermann wouldn't be in classed
- 6:45that day. He was six years old when full scale
- 6:48war began nine when it ended his life. While the
- 6:51children had grown accustomed to violence, they weren't used to
- 6:54being targeted in the sandbox. Since January, Russia has struck
- 6:58their city twelve times, probably related to its proximity to
- 7:02the front lines, leaving thirty two people dead and one
- 7:05hundred and seventy three injured, including those killed. Friday, hours
- 7:09after the attack on the playground, drones killed another person,
- 7:12an injured seven and creevy re official said Felicks had
- 7:18spent hours texting with Hermann's classmates. They were struggling. She said.
- 7:23Three days of morning were set to begin the most
- 7:26Crievore has ever had, with the first funerals beginning that day.
- 7:30Some children were being buried together in joint memorials, including
- 7:33the fifteen year old couple, their open caskets side by
- 7:36side in the church. I'm very sad and scared, wrote
- 7:40one girl to Friedlik. He was a friend to me,
- 7:42said another. I don't know how to react, Freelich said,
- 7:46wondering if class should be canceled. Should I put an
- 7:48end to this? But I understand kids have to grieve
- 7:51in their own way. Ultimately, she didn't have to decide
- 7:55the air siren. The air alert siren again canceled. Class
- 8:00held in a bomb shelter beneath the school when it
- 8:02wasn't online. Felix's third floor classroom is no longer deemed safe.
- 8:07Hours later, once the threat had passed, the school held
- 8:10a special ceremony for the children and their parents to
- 8:13honor Herman and two of his schoolmates who had also
- 8:16died in the strike. The small white cloth table held
- 8:20portraits of the two boys and girl, nestled amide a
- 8:23cluster of bouquets. We are gathered here because of tragic
- 8:27events that happens on a sunny day like this, said
- 8:29Headmaster Andre Rogel. Russians are taking not only the best
- 8:33of our sons and daughters, but our future. After a
- 8:37moment of silence, children carried flowers to the memorial for
- 8:40other children, before returning to him to the arms of
- 8:42their mothers. Across Creevy ree, Hermann's family were preparing for
- 8:47their final goodbye. The boy who loved legos and roeblocks
- 8:51had been measured for his casket and dressed in nice clothes.
- 8:54When a person is born, you see how fragile life
- 8:57is in that moment, said his father, Valerie Tripple, those
- 9:01who start wars, they need to be present in these
- 9:03moments to see that vulnerability of human life. I was
- 9:07changed after the birth of my son. I changed my
- 9:09opinions on the world. I saw how he was born,
- 9:12and I saw how he died. He paused a washing grief.
- 9:17How do we go on? The next article from the
- 9:22front page of today's edition is titled Trump suggests openness
- 9:26to deals threatens new tariffs in China by Jeff Stein,
- 9:31Aaron greg and Taylor Telford. President Donald Trump on Monday
- 9:36signaled that he was open to cutting deals with countries
- 9:38around the world to yeize tariffs, partially stabilizing markets that
- 9:42had been rattled by an intensifying trade war. While Trump
- 9:46and many White House advisors continued to suggest there would
- 9:48be no quick and to new import duties, the President
- 9:52also fueled optimism that deals with individual countries could avert
- 9:55worst case economic scenarios. Major stock index has closed largely
- 10:00flat after sinking for several consecutive days since the White
- 10:03House unveiled major new tariffs last week. After a dizzying session,
- 10:07the S and P five hundred ended down just zero
- 10:09point two percent Monday, While the tech heavy in ASDAK
- 10:13Composite Index was barely positive, the Dow Jones Industrial Average,
- 10:17which contains just thirty stocks, closed down just shy up
- 10:20one percent. We're going to get fair deals and good
- 10:24deals with every country, and if we don't, we're going
- 10:26to have nothing to do with them, Trump said in
- 10:28a joint Oval Office appearance with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
- 10:31Nett Yahoo. They're not going to be allowed to participate
- 10:34in the United States still, Trump and his advisors also
- 10:38gave numerous indications that the trade war could intensify before easing.
- 10:43The president rejected the idea of pausing tariffs before they
- 10:46were implemented to allow agreements to be reached. It's the
- 10:49only chance our country will have to reset the table,
- 10:52because no other president would be willing to do what
- 10:54I'm doing, or to even go through it, he said. Now,
- 10:57I don't mind going through it because I see a
- 10:59beautiful picture at the end. Through interviews in social media posts,
- 11:04Trump and his team made clear over the weekend and
- 11:06on Monday that there would be no speedy end to
- 11:08the import duties announced last week. Peter Navarro, a senior
- 11:12White House aide, dismissed conciliatory gestures by Vietnam as insufficient
- 11:16to reach a deal. The White House quickly shot down
- 11:19rumors on social media Monday that a delay in implementing
- 11:22the tariffs was under consideration, and Trump threatened additional fifty
- 11:26percent tariffs on China in response to the retaliatory measures
- 11:29introduced by Beijing, which would take duties on some Chinese
- 11:33made goods above one hundred percent. Over the weekend, he
- 11:37amplified claims on social media that he was intentionally crashing
- 11:40the stock market. Economists say lasting damage is likely unless
- 11:45Trump quickly reverses the measures he imposed last week, adding
- 11:48a ten percent tariff on all imports to the United
- 11:51States and much higher tax rates for goods from dozens
- 11:54of specific countries. All indications from the President and his
- 11:58advisors or that they are not down that is shocking
- 12:02given the performance of financial markets and imminent economic damage,
- 12:05said Michael Strain and economists at the American Enterprise Institute,
- 12:09a center right think tank. They will have to change
- 12:12course if they want to avoid severe economic damage and
- 12:14don't want to be wiped out in the twenty twenty
- 12:17six and twenty twenty eight elections. Some analysts have remained
- 12:21optimistic that the White House could still reach agreements with
- 12:23foreign trading partners, paving the way to lower tariffs. Trump
- 12:27said last week that tariffs give us great power to negotiate,
- 12:30and his advisors over the weekends stressed that more than
- 12:32fifty countries have reached out seeking deals. These messages have
- 12:37added to the overall economic confusion while also providing some
- 12:40hope for investors that the tariffs may prove short lived.
- 12:45It's really hard to see how we get out of this.
- 12:47But the silver lining is that these things were put
- 12:49on with a flip of a switch and can be
- 12:51taken off with the flip of a switch, said Scott Linsecombe,
- 12:55director of General economics at the Cato Institute, a center
- 12:59right think tank. That's really cold comfort for everyone right now.
- 13:03It's just uncertainty on steroids. At this point. The objective
- 13:06is totally unclear. Trump threatened the new fifty percent tariff
- 13:10for Chinese goods after Beijing on Friday matched the thirty
- 13:13four percent tax rate that Trump had announced for imports
- 13:16from China. The president said the higher total was a
- 13:19response to the retaliation if China does not withdraw its
- 13:23thirty four percent increase above their already long term trading
- 13:26abuses by tomorrow April eight, twenty twenty five. The United
- 13:31States will impose additional tariffs on China a fifty percent,
- 13:34effective April ninth, the President posted on truth Social Additionally,
- 13:38all talks with China concerning their requested meanings with US
- 13:41will be terminated. Other signs emerged Monday of intensifying trade hostilities.
- 13:48Vietnam offered to take its tariff barriers to zero, but
- 13:51Nabarro said such a move means nothing to us because
- 13:53the White House wants the country to address its non
- 13:56tariff cheating, which he identified as intellectual property theft and
- 13:59other mechanisms. Trump announced a forty six percent reciprocal tariff
- 14:04rate for Vietnam last week, using a formula that many
- 14:07economists say is badly flawed. Investors seeking conciliatory signs from
- 14:12the White House had their hopes dashed early. Stock condexes
- 14:16suddenly rose in the morning on reports that Kevin Hasset,
- 14:19a top Trump advisor, said that the White House would
- 14:22consider a pause on all countries, but China markets quickly
- 14:25retreated yet again as it became clear that the speculation
- 14:28was based on a Fox News interview in which Hassar
- 14:31did not make that suggestion. The White House dismissed the
- 14:34report as fake news. Markets fell after the administration clarified
- 14:38has its comments, rose again and fell once more after
- 14:42the Trump Trump's Truth social post. The extraordinary voluntarity captured
- 14:48the unease on Wall Street. Stocks were facing another week
- 14:52of elevated uncertainty about tariffs, their duration, and the potential
- 14:55far for more retaliation, said Carrol Schleife, chief market strate
- 15:00at them Private Wealth in Minneapolis. She noted that investors
- 15:04are puzzling through what makes sense under new teriff regimes.
- 15:08While the past few days in marks have been unsettling,
- 15:10market readjustments to unexpected events are often swift and brutal
- 15:14as traders search for a new floor and work new
- 15:16information into their models, Shlief said Monday in comments email
- 15:20to The Washington Post. This current volatility was exacerbated since
- 15:24stocks were trading at record highs and elevated valuations back
- 15:28in February. Heading into this market correction, Trading volume on
- 15:33the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday and Friday was
- 15:35about eighty percent higher than the daily background. According to
- 15:38DC based stock analyst Michael Farr in April twenty twenty,
- 15:42by comparison, early in the coronavirus pandemic, trading volume was
- 15:46forty percent higher. Tremor's continued Monday, as markets across the
- 15:50Asia Pacific region and Europe traded sharply lower. The Hang
- 15:54Sang Index in Hong Kong fell by thirteen point two percent,
- 15:58its worst one day plunged since nineteen nine twenty seven.
- 16:01Japan's benchmarked Nickay two hundred twenty five fell seven point
- 16:05eight percent, the lowest ince October of twenty twenty three.
- 16:09In Europe, Germany's dacks fell by nearly ten percent at
- 16:12the open before trimming losses, while the stocks six hundred
- 16:15was down more than four percent. The CBOE Volatility Index,
- 16:20known as Wall Street's fear gauge, climbed nearly seven percent
- 16:23Monday to reach its highest level of volatility since twenty twenty.
- 16:28Richard Sapristin, chief investment officer of Treasury Partners in New York,
- 16:32attributed the swift and sudden market decline to investor efforts
- 16:35to reprise amid and impending recession from the burden of tarofts.
- 16:41The uncertainty of trading partner retaliation is still weighing on
- 16:44the markets, Sapristine told the Post. Markets won't rebound until
- 16:48tariffs are negotiated and reduced, until valuations move even lower
- 16:52to very compelling levels, and until fundamentals improve, and none
- 16:56of these factors are in the cards at this time.
- 16:59Relief come from the Federal Reserve in the form of
- 17:02emergency policy easing of economic conditions deteriorate and unemployment spikes,
- 17:08Sapristine noted, but the Central Bank faces a quandary due
- 17:12to the rising inflationary pulse that could occur from tariffs.
- 17:16Larry Tentarelli, Chief Technical Strategies for the Blue Chip Daily Report,
- 17:20warned investors to keep more cash on the sidelines amid
- 17:23the volatility. There was no real blueprint to model current
- 17:27market conditions against, Tentarelli said in a note. As stocks
- 17:32keeps slipping, Wall Street has begun pushing back on Trump's
- 17:35economic agenda and his annual letter to shareholders. J P.
- 17:39Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond warned that tariffs are likely
- 17:43to increase inflation have led many to consider a greater
- 17:46probability of a recession at a time when prices are
- 17:49already elevated. He also cautioned that a trade war could
- 17:52damage economic relationships that have been vital to the nation's
- 17:56extraordinary standing of world affairs. Bill Ackman, a billion hedge
- 18:00fund manager, called for a ninety day time out on
- 18:02tariffs and an ex post over the weekend, arguing that
- 18:06waging economic war on the whole world at once could
- 18:08destroy confidence in the United States as a trading partner,
- 18:12as a place to do business, and as a market
- 18:14to invest capital. There are early signs the stock tumult
- 18:18is causing investors to reassess stakes and riskier assets, a
- 18:21trend that could eventually make it more expensive for everyday
- 18:24Americans and businesses to borrow money. On Friday, investors withdrew
- 18:29one point three billion dollars from exchange traded funds holding
- 18:33corporate loans with adjunk credit ratings, a record outflow, according
- 18:37to JP Morgan Chase Research note. At the same time,
- 18:41the spread, or difference in yield widened between junk bonds
- 18:45and safe assets such as treasury securities. Junk spreads should
- 18:49be considered the cannery in the coal mine, said Joseph
- 18:52brucellis chief economist at RSM. Widening credit spreads are often
- 18:57a harbender of a general credit crunch. If it were
- 19:00to spill over into the real economy, would cause a recession.
- 19:05The next article from the front page of today's edition
- 19:08is titled Cracks Appear among Trump's Cheerleader's mid market Turmoil
- 19:14by kat zak Ruski, Sarah Ellison and Theodoric Meyer. As
- 19:21the world reels from President Donald Trump's trade war, JP
- 19:24Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond is alerting shareholders that the
- 19:27talis will slow down growth. Podcaster Ben Shapiro is warning
- 19:31that the president's vision of international trade is mistaken, and
- 19:35Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, is advising that the
- 19:38tariff's strategy carries enormous risk. Trump's terrists are increasingly alienating
- 19:43some of the corporate titans influencers in the even Republican
- 19:47lawmakers who served as his boosters. As the president plows
- 19:51ahead with a trade strategy that has prompted wild swings
- 19:54in the markets, the criticism criticism is an early sign
- 19:58that the economic turmoil caused by his trade war could
- 20:01leave lasting political scars for Trump, who doubled down on
- 20:04the strategy by threatening new tariffs against China on Monday morning.
- 20:09The Chining marks our departure from the general acquiescence among
- 20:12Trump's allies during the first two and a half months
- 20:14of his shock and awe presidency. Influential leaders in many
- 20:18spheres largely remained silent or cautiously supported the White House
- 20:22as it slashed the federal workforce, strained alliances with Europe,
- 20:25and unleashed an immigration crackdown during the first seventy days
- 20:28in office. World leaders who have sought to appease Trump's
- 20:32America First agenda amid wars in Ukraine and Gaza are
- 20:35also coming to the negotiating table, as Israeli Prime Minister
- 20:39Benjamin Natanniahu makes a last minute visit to the White
- 20:42House amid the economic threats, and while Trump fields calls
- 20:45from other worried heads of state. Trump appeared undeterred by
- 20:49the public pressure on Monday, saying that he would not
- 20:52pause the tariffs, but major stock indexes closed largely flat
- 20:55after he suggested that he was open to striking deals
- 20:58with countries seeking him mitigate the tariff fallout. We're going
- 21:02to get fair deals and good deals with every country,
- 21:05and if we don't, we're going to have nothing to
- 21:07do with them, Trump said. The cracks and Trump's clout
- 21:10were most visible in corporate America, as the executives who
- 21:14once touted Trump's policies as good for business raced to
- 21:17measure the impact of the tariffs on their portfolios and
- 21:20supply chains. Executives who sounded the alarm on Trump's plans
- 21:24for tariffs during his final first term had minimized the
- 21:27impact of the duties during the early weeks of his administration. Diamond,
- 21:32widely viewed as one of the most influential leaders on
- 21:35Wall Street, told CNBC in January that the terroriffs were
- 21:38a valuable economic weapon and to quote, get over it.
- 21:42But on Monday, he used his influential Annual Shareholder's Letter
- 21:45to warn that Trump's menus of levies would result in
- 21:48inflationary outcomes both on imports and prices in the United States.
- 21:53The recent terrorists will likely increase inflation and are causing
- 21:56many to consider a greater probability of a recession, he wrote.
- 22:00Bill Ackman, a billionaire hedge fund manager who endorsed Trump
- 22:03after the July assassination attempt, wrote on ex on Sunday
- 22:07that going ahead with the new tariffs was tantamount to
- 22:10launching an economic nuclear war. He pressed the White House
- 22:13to slow down an institute a pause on the levees.
- 22:17This is not what we voted for, he wrote. On Friday,
- 22:20Eli Lily CEO David Rix delivered a grim assessment of
- 22:23the impact of Trump's tariffs on corporate America, warning that
- 22:26companies would probably have to slash research or staff. It's
- 22:30a pivot in nuance policy, and it feels like it'll
- 22:33be hard to come back from here, he said during
- 22:35an interview Friday with the BBC. His tone was starkly
- 22:39different from the optimistic disposition in late February when he
- 22:42joined with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and other top administration
- 22:46officials in Washington to announce that Eli Lilly would invest
- 22:49at least twenty seven billion dollars in expanding manufacturing in
- 22:52the United States. Some CEOs are breaking their silence after
- 22:56largely betting that the Trump White House would be good
- 22:59for business. Many CEOs have been wared to criticize any
- 23:03of the president's policies for fear that they would lose
- 23:05their seats at the table or become a target for
- 23:07the President's attacks, just as law firms, universities, and other
- 23:11institutions have done. Last week, major trade groups, including the
- 23:15National Association of Manufacturers, criticized Trump's trade policies as companies
- 23:20sought power and numbers in voicing their concerns to the
- 23:23Trump administration. Trade associations speaking up as a toe in
- 23:27the water, said one industry lobbyist, who spoke on the
- 23:30condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the discussions. Tesla's CEO,
- 23:35Elon Musk, one of Trump's top advisers, broke with Trump's strategy,
- 23:39saying at an event Saturday they had hoped to see
- 23:41a zero tariff situation between North America and Europe. He
- 23:45also took swipes at Trump's trade advisor Pina Navarro, who
- 23:48has been a key advocate for the tariffs. A PhD
- 23:52in econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a
- 23:54good thing. Results in the ego brains is part one problem,
- 24:00Musk wrote. In one post. He also wrote that Lutnik's
- 24:03defense of tariffs on uninhabited islands was funny, adding a
- 24:06smiley emoji. Many of Trump's other surrogates and industry have
- 24:10been notably silent as the stock market slides. Venture capitalist
- 24:15Marc Andreesen, Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman, and other business leaders
- 24:19who endorsed Trump for president have not commented on the tariffs,
- 24:22after previously boosting Trump's economic policy throughout the campaign and
- 24:28the early weeks of his presidency. A cohort of podcasters
- 24:31and online influencers have helped boost Trump to their millions
- 24:34of followers, but in recent days some of them began
- 24:37to lash out. Shapiro, who initially supported Florida Governor Ron
- 24:42DeSantis in the Republican presidential primary before switching his support
- 24:46to Trump, spent much of his recent episodes highlighting the
- 24:49flaws in Trump's tariff push to his audience. The President's
- 24:53vision of international trade is, I'm sorry to say, mistaken,
- 24:57he said this week on The Ben Shapiro Show. So
- 25:00this is a massive tax increase on American consumers. That's
- 25:04what this is, and it is designed to be so,
- 25:06he said, adding that it is probably unconstitutional, one of
- 25:10the biggest tax increases on consumers in history, which he
- 25:14said was predicated on a bad idea of how international
- 25:16trade works. The emerging criticism had not been limited to tariffs.
- 25:23Joe Rogan, the influential podcast host who endorsed Trump on
- 25:27the eve of the election, called the administration error in
- 25:30inadvertently deporting legal immigrants horrific. The thing is, like, you
- 25:35got to get scared that people who are not criminals
- 25:38were getting like lassoedop and deported and sent to like
- 25:41El Salvador prisons, Rogan said on a recent podcast episode.
- 25:46Rogan was referring to Andre Jose Hernandez Romero, a Venezuelan
- 25:50makeup artist who was deported to El Salvador after the
- 25:52Trump administration identified him as a trend des Arguis gang
- 25:56member through his tattoos, which family members have said have
- 26:00nothing to do with the gang. Rogan had already derided
- 26:03Trump's fight with Canada. This is so ridiculous. I can't
- 26:07believe that there's like anti American, an anti Canadian sentiment
- 26:12going on, he said. I think it's ridiculous, and I
- 26:15don't really think they should be our fifty first state,
- 26:17he added. Barstools Sports founder Dave Portney criticized the tariff's
- 26:22and a video recorded last week, Portneuf Fortney Portnoy a
- 26:27supporter of Trump, said that he has down seven million
- 26:29bucks in stocks and crypto and it's tariff city. Trump
- 26:33has put his terraffs all over the place. I've been
- 26:35trying to understand them. I don't like it's more like
- 26:38a trade deficit tariff. Senate Republicans, including Trump allies and critics,
- 26:43have grown increasingly concerned about the tariffs Trump announced Wednesday.
- 26:47As the stock market dived, people are going to panic
- 26:50of this continues, and they're in a bit of a
- 26:52panic now, said Kevin Kramer, Republican of North Thepe North Dakota,
- 26:58describing the mood among center rep Republicans. Still concerns about
- 27:02the tariffs haven't led Trump supporters to sour on him yet,
- 27:05he said. If the tariffs start hurting individuals and they
- 27:09start feeling not hurt in substantial ways, even Donald Trump's
- 27:12strongest supporters may second guess, Kramer said, but I don't
- 27:16think we're at the second guessing stage yet. Cruz, another
- 27:20Trump loyalist, warned that Trump's tariff's strategy carries enormous risks.
- 27:24I love President Trump, the senator from Texas, said Friday
- 27:27on his podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz, I am his
- 27:31strongest supporter in the Senate. I think he's doing incredible
- 27:34things as president. But here's one thing to understand. A
- 27:37tariff is a tax, and it is attaxed principally on
- 27:40American consumers. Even as Republican senators worried about Trump's tariffs, though,
- 27:46fifty one of them voted Saturday morning for a budget
- 27:48framework that would allow them to start drafting his top
- 27:51legislative priority, a big, beautiful bill to cut taxes and
- 27:55increased border funding. Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louis, said
- 28:00he would vote yes in part because of the economic
- 28:03uncertainty caused by Trump's tarots. The stock market has had
- 28:06two successive days of greater than fifteen hundred points decline,
- 28:09Cassidy said on the Senate floor ahead of the vote.
- 28:12This kind of crashing stock market creates uncertainty, which makes
- 28:15companies less likely to invest, which makes it less likely
- 28:18than new jobs will be created. The next article from
- 28:23the front page of today's edition is titled Supreme Court
- 28:26lifts hold on Venezuelan deportations to El Salvador for now
- 28:30by Justin Juvenal and Anne E. Marimo. A divided Supreme
- 28:35Court on Monday cleared the way for the Trump administration
- 28:37to use a controversial wartime authority to deport alleged members
- 28:41of a Venezuelan gang, but said detainees must first have
- 28:44an opportunity to challenge their deportations. The five to four
- 28:48rulings did not touch on the underlying legal questions about
- 28:51the government's use of the Alien Enemies Act, one of
- 28:54the most high profile and contentious immigration enforcement actions so
- 28:58far in President Donald Trump's second term. Instead, the majority
- 29:01of ruling that the five Venezuela and immigrant immigrants who
- 29:04challenged the policy did so in the wrong court, leaving
- 29:09open the possibility that those targeted for deportation could refile
- 29:12their case in Texas or other jurisdictions where they are detained.
- 29:17The detainees are confined to Texas, so venue is improper
- 29:21in the District of Columbia, the justices wrote of the
- 29:24challenge in U S District Court in DC. As a result,
- 29:28the government is likely to succeed on the merits of
- 29:31this action. The ruling said detainees are entitled to notice
- 29:34within a reasonable time frame and must have an opportunity
- 29:37to challenge their removal. Including the government's use of the
- 29:41Wartime Act. The decision appears to take the central legal
- 29:46issue of the case away from Judge James E. Busberg
- 29:48of U. S. District Court in Washington, whose temporary restraining
- 29:52order blocking the deportations prompted impeachment calls from Trump and
- 29:57his allies and triggered a showdown between the p president
- 30:00and the Judiciary. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Junior and
- 30:04Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Junior, Neil M. Gore Sutch,
- 30:08and Brent M. Kavanaugh were in the majority on the ruling.
- 30:12Kavanaugh defended their decision in a brief statement, saying the
- 30:15majority's disagreement with the other four justices is not over
- 30:18whether the deteenees received judicial review of their transfers. All
- 30:22nine members of the court agreed that judicial review is available.
- 30:25The only question is where that judicial reviews should occur.
- 30:29The court's three liberal justices forcefully dissented, joined in part
- 30:33by Justice Amy Coney Barrett. The liberals warned of potential
- 30:38life or death consequences from the majority's order and criticized
- 30:41their colleagues, saying the ruling flouts well established limits creates
- 30:45new law on the emerging doctet emergency doctet, and it
- 30:49leads the serious threat our intervention poses to the lives
- 30:54of individual deteenings. They emphasize that the court's order on
- 30:58Monday means the government cannot again and usher any detainees
- 31:01onto planes in a shroud of secrecy and without a hearing,
- 31:05as it did on March fifteenth, Nor can the government
- 31:08immediately resume in removing individuals without notice, wrote Justice Sonya Sodemayer,
- 31:13joined by Justices Elaine Kagan, to Tanji Brown, Jackson and Baron.
- 31:18To the extent the government removes even one individual without
- 31:21affording him notice and a meaningful opportunity to contest a
- 31:24planned deportation, she added, it does so indirect contravention of
- 31:29an edict by the United States Supreme Court. Trump last
- 31:33month declared the presence of the Venezuelan trende a gang
- 31:36in the United States, an invasion and invoked the seventeen
- 31:39ninety eight Alien Enemies Act, which is aimed at removing
- 31:42citizens of a nation with which the United States is
- 31:45at war. The government then rushed to deport Venezuelans to
- 31:48a notorious mega prison in al Salvador using the Wartime
- 31:52Act to justify sending deportees to a country where they
- 31:56are not citizens. Bosburg halted the deportations and re response
- 32:00to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties a
- 32:03liberties union, which said Trump can't invoke the Act to
- 32:06the port Venezuelans because the United States is not at
- 32:09war with the country. They called the president's use of
- 32:11the Act unprecedented. The Act was meant solely to address
- 32:15military hostilities directed at the United States, not criminal activity
- 32:19by a gang during peacetime. ACLU attorneys wrote in a filing,
- 32:24But more than one hundred and thirty Venezuelans were removed
- 32:26on the same day. Vosburg issued his order without advanced
- 32:29notice or a chance to challenge the government's assertion that
- 32:33they were part of the gang. US officials later acknowledged
- 32:37that many of the deportees did not have criminal records
- 32:39in the United States. Government attorneys called Bosberg's block on
- 32:44such deportations while litigation continues as unconstitutional imposition on the
- 32:49president's broad authority to deal with national security issues and
- 32:52conduct foreign policy. They claimed the gang is operating in
- 32:56the United States at the behest of Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro,
- 33:00an idea disputed by government intelligence agencies. This case presents
- 33:04fundamental questions about who decides how to conduct sensitive national
- 33:08security related operations in this country, the president or the judiciary.
- 33:13Acting Solicitor General Sarah M. Harris wrote in court filings,
- 33:17the constitution supplies a clear answer the president. The Republic
- 33:21cannot afford a different choice. Homeland Security Secretary Christy L.
- 33:27Noam celebrated the Supreme Court's ruling in the social media
- 33:30post Monday evening President Trump was proven right once again.
- 33:34Scotus confirms our commander in Chief, Donald J. Trump has
- 33:39the power to stop the invasion of our country by
- 33:41terrorists using wartime powers. Leave now, or we will arrest you,
- 33:45lock you up, and deport you, she wrote. The ACLU
- 33:50called the justices ruling that migrants are entitled to challenge
- 33:53the government's claim that they are gang member is a
- 33:55huge victory. We are disappointed that we will need to
- 33:58start the court process over again in a different venue,
- 34:01but the critical point is that the Supreme Court said
- 34:03individuals must be given due process to challenge their removal
- 34:06under the Alien Enemies Act. Lead ACLU attorney Lee Gallerant
- 34:12said in a statement. Jackson also wrote separately from the
- 34:16other liberals, sharply criticizing the majority for handling a complex
- 34:20matter through the court's emergency docket rather than with the
- 34:23usual lengthy briefing. In oral argument, she invoked the Court's
- 34:27infamous decision during World War II to allow the end
- 34:30tournament of thousands of Japanese immigrants in Japanese American citizens,
- 34:34and said Trump is leaning on a century's old wartime
- 34:37statute to risk people away to a notoriously brutal foreign
- 34:41run prison. For lovers of liberty, this should be quite concerning.
- 34:45With more and more of our most significant rulings taking
- 34:48place in the shadows of our emergency docket, today's court
- 34:51leaves less and less of a trace, Jackson wrote, But
- 34:54make no mistake, we are just as wrong now as
- 34:56we have been in the past, with similarly devastating consequences.
- 35:00It just seems we are now less willing to face it.
- 35:04The Alien Enemies Act has been invoked three times three
- 35:07other times in the nation's history, and only during war time,
- 35:10including World War II, when it was used to hold
- 35:13tens of thousands of people, including U. S. Citizens of
- 35:15Japanese descent. A three judge panel on the US Court
- 35:19of Appeals for the d C's Circuit upheld Bosberg's pause
- 35:22on deportations two to one, emphasizing that it was a
- 35:25temporary decision and not the final word on the legality
- 35:28of Trump's use of the Act. Bosberg called the Trump
- 35:31administration's use of the Act problematic and concerning. He also
- 35:36questioned whether Trump officials purpurposely defied his March fifteenth order
- 35:41blocking deportations under the Act when he told the government
- 35:45it should return any planes already carrying deportees from the
- 35:48United States. Trump officials have since said the Venezuelans who
- 35:52were deported under the Act were beyond u S air
- 35:55space at the time of Bosburg's order and therefore could
- 35:58not be returned. Al Salvador's president, Naive Bukell, who agreed
- 36:03to jail the deportees in exchange for payment from the
- 36:05United States, appeared to celebrate their arrival in his country
- 36:08in the wake of Bosberg's ruling UPSI too Late, Mukelly
- 36:12posted on x with a crying from laughter emoji and
- 36:15an image of a newspaper headline above about the order.
- 36:19The case also spurred Republicans on Capitol Hill to seek
- 36:22ways to reign in federal judges who put temporary blocks
- 36:26on many of Trump's initiatives while lawsuits challenging their legality proceed.
- 36:31Representative darryl Issa, a Republican of California, said in opening
- 36:36remarks at a House Judiciary Committee hearing that it was
- 36:39a major problem when a judge believes that he can
- 36:41order a full plane of criminal aliens back to US soil,
- 36:45essentially saying that two hundred years of statute is to
- 36:48be overturned by his quick order. Democracy Forward, which is
- 36:52representing the migrants along with the ACLU, said the Supreme
- 36:56Court ruling affirms what we have long known. The Trump
- 36:59administration acts it unlawfully when it removed people from this
- 37:02nation with no process. We are disappointed at the court
- 37:06sought to intervene in this matter at the preliminary stage
- 37:09and before the district court could hear further argument. We
- 37:12will continue to use all legal tools to protect our
- 37:14clients and people across the nation from removal without process.
- 37:18Sky Perryman, the group's president and chief executives, said in
- 37:22a statement. The next article from the front page of
- 37:25Today's edition is titled Social Security Website keeps Crashing as
- 37:30DOGE demands cuts to it staff by Lisa Rain, Hannah Nattinson,
- 37:36and Elizabeth Weskin. Retirees and disabled people are facing chronic
- 37:41website outages and other access problems as they attempt to
- 37:44log in to their online Social Security accounts, even as
- 37:48they are being directed to do more of their business
- 37:50for the agency online. The website has crashed repeatedly in
- 37:54recent weeks, with outages lasting anywhere from twenty minutes to
- 37:57almost a day, according to six current and formal officials
- 38:00with knowledge of the issues. Even when the site is
- 38:03back online, many customers have not been able to sign
- 38:06into their accounts or have logged in only to find
- 38:08information missing. For others, access to the system has been slow,
- 38:12requiring repeated tries to get in. The problems comes the
- 38:16Trump administration's cost cutting team, led by Alan Musk, has
- 38:20imposed a downsizing that's led to seven thousand job cuts
- 38:23and preparing to push out thousands more employees at an
- 38:26agency that served seventy three million Americans. The new demands
- 38:30from Musk's US DOGE service include a fifty percent cut
- 38:33to the technology division. Responsible for the website and other
- 38:36electronic access. Many of the network outages appear to be
- 38:40caused by an expanded fraud check system imposed by the
- 38:43DOGE team. Current and FORM officials said the technology staff
- 38:48did not test the new software against a high volume
- 38:50of users to see if the servers could handle the rush.
- 38:52These officials said the technology issues have been particularly alarming
- 38:57for some of the most vulnerable social security customers. For
- 39:00almost two days last week, for example, many of the
- 39:03seven point four million adults and children receiving monthly benefits
- 39:06under the anti poverty program known as Supplemental Security Income,
- 39:10or SSI, confronted a jarring message that claimed they were
- 39:14currently not receiving payments. Agency officials acknowledged in an internal
- 39:18email of staff. The error messages set off widespread panic
- 39:22until recipients discovered that their monthly checks had still been
- 39:26deposited in their bank accounts. Another breakdown disabled the SSI
- 39:30system for much of the day on Friday, prompting claimed
- 39:34staff to cancel appointments because they could not enter new
- 39:36disability claims in the system, and blocking some already receiving
- 39:40benefits from gaining access to their accounts. Social Securities response
- 39:45has been oops, said Darcy Milburn, director of Social Security
- 39:48and health care Policy at the arc A National Security,
- 39:53a national nonprofit that advocates for people with disabilities. The
- 39:57group filled dozens of calls last week from nervous clients
- 39:59who saw the inaccurate message and assume their monthly check,
- 40:02usually paid on the front first of the month, would
- 40:05not arrive. It's woefully insufficient when we're talking about a
- 40:08government agency that's holding someone's lifeline in their hands. Milburn said.
- 40:13The disruptions are occurring as Acting Commissioner Leland Dudek and
- 40:16the Doze team moved to layoff large swaths of the
- 40:20workforce in a new phase of downsizing. Thousands of employees
- 40:24already have been pushed out, many in customer facing roles,
- 40:27others with expertise, and the agency's cumbersome technology systems. At
- 40:32least eight hundred of the three thousand employees left in
- 40:34the division that manages all of the Social Security databases
- 40:38face layoffs, a senior official set on Friday, the newly
- 40:42named Chief Information Officer, Scott Colter, a MUSC aligned private
- 40:45equity analyst, has demanded a cut of fifty percent. The
- 40:48official said. The network outages are won in a cascade
- 40:52of blows to customer service that have also hobbled phone
- 40:55systems and field office operations. As the workforce shrinks, a
- 41:00surgeon visitors to the website is overwhelming the computer systems
- 41:03as customers nervous that the rapid changes that the agency
- 41:06will compromise their benefits, download their benefit in earning statements,
- 41:10and attempt to file claims. President Donald Trump has said
- 41:14that his administration will were not reduce Social Security benefits.
- 41:18The chaos could accelerate starting April fourteenth, when new identification
- 41:22measures are set to take effect that will require millions
- 41:25of customers applying for benefits to authenticate their identity online,
- 41:29part of the administration's campaign to root out allegedly fraudulent claims.
- 41:35We're just spiking like crazy, said one senior official, who,
- 41:38like others in this article, spoke on the condition of
- 41:40anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about
- 41:44agency operations. It's people who are terrified that dog is
- 41:48messing with our systems. It's the sheer mass of volume
- 41:51freaked out people. The Social Security Press Office said in
- 41:54a statement that officials are actively investigating the root cause
- 41:57of the incidents, which they called brief death disruptions, averaging
- 42:01about twenty minutes each, with the exception of the SSI
- 42:03error message, but on several occasions, including during an outage
- 42:08last Monday, customers were shut out of the website for hours.
- 42:11The system was back online last Monday after two hours,
- 42:14but lingering issues lasted throughout the afternoon while all backlog
- 42:18queries were processed. Current and former officials said, and a
- 42:24system upgrade on Saturday in late March took several hours
- 42:28longer than anticipated and un knocked out the network three times.
- 42:32In a recent ten days stretch, the online systems the
- 42:35field office staff rely on to serve the public have crashed,
- 42:38said one employee in an Indiana office. The down programs
- 42:42included tools employees used to schedule visits, to see who
- 42:46has booked an appointment, and to check who has arrived.
- 42:48The employee said. It is unheard of for the system
- 42:51to fail this often, and each outage has led to chaos.
- 42:54They said. Suddenly forced offline as they were taking claims,
- 42:58the staff members scribbled down client information then had to
- 43:01wait until later to load it into the computer, doubling
- 43:04or tripling the amount of time in work involve the
- 43:06employee said. In other instances, managers or security guards improvised
- 43:11a solution after the online scheduling system failed. The employee
- 43:15said they walked out to the reception area, wrote down
- 43:18numbers on paper slips, and started handing them out to
- 43:21people waiting in line. The network crashes appear to be
- 43:24caused by an expansion initiated by the Trump team of
- 43:27an existing contract with a credit reporting agency that tracks names, addresses,
- 43:31and other personal information to verify customer's identities. The enhanced
- 43:36fraud checks were now done earlier in the claims process
- 43:39and have resulted in a boost in the volume of
- 43:41customers who must pass the checks, but the technology staff
- 43:45did not test the software against the high volume of
- 43:48users to see if the servers could handle the rush.
- 43:51Current and former official set connectivity issues and bugs with
- 43:55the expanded system have caused the portal that manages logins
- 43:57and authentication for many Social security applications to go down,
- 44:01Officials said at a Weekly Operations meeting on March twenty eighth.
- 44:05It was made public last week. Wayne Lemon, Deputy Chief
- 44:09Information Officer for Infrastructure and IT Operations, acknowledged the network
- 44:13crashes and said while they had been brief, we prefer
- 44:16no outages. He said the outages were under investigation and
- 44:20may involve challenges we've experienced with a number of partners.
- 44:23Part of the problem may be that the outages have
- 44:25occurred during high volumes use of the network. Is there
- 44:30a spike in demand or something in the environment causing
- 44:32the issues, Lemon said Customers, Meanwhile, they're growing more frustrated.
- 44:37In Upland, California, seventy two year old Kathy's Stetcher and
- 44:41began trying to apply for retirement benefits more than a
- 44:44week ago. One of her first steps was to visit
- 44:46the Social Security website to book a required appointment at
- 44:49her local field office because she believed she had to
- 44:52authenticate her identity and purpose in person first. But over
- 44:56several days stretching from last month through Wednesday, the website
- 45:00wouldn't let Stetcher's schedule a visit. The site displayed a
- 45:03small bar reading make an appointment, she said, but whenever
- 45:06she clicked on it, nothing happened. When she finally reached
- 45:10someone on the phone, the website's booking tool wasn't working,
- 45:12she said. The employees sighed and told her that similar
- 45:16problems had become routine, forcing customers to wait on hold
- 45:19for hours. So much was changing so fast that the agency,
- 45:22the employee said. In recent weeks, Robert Renilo, sixty seven,
- 45:27retired financial analyst in New York, found himself stuck when
- 45:31he tried to update his emergency contact by designating his
- 45:35niece instead of his wife, who has dementia. Since he
- 45:38began receiving retirement benefits five years ago, Niolo has never
- 45:43missed a payment or had trouble getting online. He said
- 45:46that this time he got an error message and kept
- 45:48getting them bad request When read one notification, according to
- 45:52a screenshot he provided to The Washington Post, there has
- 45:56been an unexpected system error. Read another. He was directed
- 45:59to try again during regular service hours on the East Coast.
- 46:03So Randi Yellow kept trying three to five times a
- 46:06day every day for the next five days. He tried
- 46:09at different times. He tried using his phone instead of
- 46:11his Chromebook. He tried different internet browsers, Chrome, Edge, Duck,
- 46:15dot Go. Nothing worked. By last Monday evening, he still
- 46:19had not managed to get into his account to change
- 46:21his emergency contact. He has begun to imagine the worst.
- 46:25What if something happens to him overnight, leaving his wife
- 46:28the only person authorized to communicate with Social Security on
- 46:31his behalf. She probably wouldn't know how to call nine
- 46:34one one if he collapsed on the floor. Ranniello said.
- 46:37She certainly wouldn't understand how to manage or consider financial matters.
- 46:42If you were to call her right now, she wouldn't
- 46:44know how to answer the phone. Ranniello said, That's why
- 46:47it's so frustrating to me. I can't make a simple
- 46:49transaction on the Social Security website. In Westborough, Massachusetts, outside Boston,
- 46:55last Monday, Chris Hubbard checked the Facebook feed, where the
- 46:58statewide community of parents of disabled children receiving SSI benefits
- 47:02post news and information, and saw that a friend logging
- 47:05into the Social Security website was notified that her child
- 47:09was not receiving benefits. Hubbard and her husband Tom have
- 47:12a profoundly autistic son. The monthly check to pay for
- 47:15the group home where he where he lives, was ready
- 47:18to go into the mail the next morning, the first
- 47:21of the month, when his SSI check always hits his
- 47:23bank accounts. When Hubbard logged in his son's account, also
- 47:27showed no history of payments. My mind was racing, she recalled.
- 47:31She envisioned going through the agonizing process of reapplying for
- 47:34benefits for her son. She couldn't sleep and continued to
- 47:37check the website until two point thirty am, same message.
- 47:41On Tuesday, the check had finally been deposited by nine am,
- 47:44but the message, now clearly in error, was still up
- 47:47on the website that afternoon. The whole thing was very alarming,
- 47:50Hubert said. The next article from the front page of
- 47:54today's edition is titled Trump has faced measles before the
- 47:59difference this time RFK JR. By Lauren Weber, Lena H's
- 48:04son Finnet Naphel, and Rachel Rubin. Six years ago, as
- 48:11measles outbreaks cropped up across the country, President Donald Trump
- 48:15was asked what parents should do. They have to get
- 48:18the shots, He said, the vaccinations are so important. On Sunday,
- 48:23Trump was asked about the growing measles outbreak in Texas
- 48:25and New Mexico. In so far a fairly small number
- 48:29of people, he said, though the outbreaks were similar in
- 48:31size at the time of both interviews. This is not
- 48:34something new. Two children have died of measles related complications,
- 48:38and a third death has been linked to the infections.
- 48:40So far this year. No one died in the twenty
- 48:43nineteen outbreaks. Public health experts and former officials are bemoaning
- 48:48the current lack of action, noting the clear difference between
- 48:51the government's response then and now. With Robert F. Kennedy
- 48:54Junior as Health and Human Services Secretary and increasing public
- 48:58hesitancy over a vaccine, the centers for disease control and
- 49:02prevention have been muzzled, messaging has been muddled, and public
- 49:05health funding has been slashed. This response does an incredible
- 49:10disservice to what public health could be in this country.
- 49:12It would actually be difficult to even call it an
- 49:15anemic response. At Peter Marx, who is the Food and
- 49:17Drug Administration's top vaccine regulator until the Trump administration pushed
- 49:21him out last month, Kennedy, who has a long history
- 49:24of disparaging vaccines, initially underplayed the severity of the outbreak
- 49:28and promoted unproven treatments while stressing that vaccination is a
- 49:32personal choice. Kennedy has contended that he is simply seeking
- 49:36good data about vaccines, and is said during his confirmation
- 49:39hearing that he supports the measles vaccine. The Trump administration
- 49:43has cut coronavirus pandemic funding to states, resulting in the
- 49:47reductions to staff who are tackling outbreaks, and has often
- 49:50not countered misinformation promoted by the anti vaccine nonprofit group
- 49:54that Kennedy founded. In a typical measles response, the CDC
- 49:58would hold multiple news briefings, issue more health advisories, and
- 50:02release analysis of the measles cases and a forecast of
- 50:05the outbreaks trajectory, according to Anne Schuchchad, a former top
- 50:10CDC official. Instead, the CDC, which takes the lead on
- 50:13outbreak responses, has not held a single briefing for experts,
- 50:17for experts or reporters, nor has the agency received permission
- 50:21to update clinicians about the outbreak. There has been no
- 50:25concerted federal government push for vaccination comparable with the upport
- 50:28in twenty nineteen. Decades of scientific research have proved there
- 50:33is no link between the MMR vaccine and autism, despite
- 50:36previous claim from Kennedy, the anti vaccine group he founded,
- 50:39and the anti vaccine movement that has been emboldened by
- 50:42his new authority. Only after a second child died of
- 50:45measles in Texas, and Senator Bill Cassidy, the Republican of Louisiana,
- 50:50leader of the Senate Health Committee, called on top health
- 50:52official Sunday to promote vaccination. To Kennedy posts that the
- 50:56most effective way to present to prevent the spread of
- 50:59measles of the U S MMR vaccine. It's shocking that
- 51:02it's in April when the Secretary of HHS finally acknowledged
- 51:06that vaccines are the best way to prevent measles. Shutecott
- 51:09said Texas reported its first case in late January. When
- 51:14leaders are so confused or even malicious, it's really scary,
- 51:17she said. The weaker the message to parents and clinicians,
- 51:20the worse it's going to be, said Shutchod, who fought
- 51:24several major disease outbreaks in her thirty three years at
- 51:26the CDC. Secretary Kennedy has consistently and vocally endorsed vaccination
- 51:32as the most effective tool against measles. White House spokesman
- 51:35Cushed de Size said in an emailed statement. Under his leadership,
- 51:40HSS has facilitated measles vaccinations and deployed CBC resources to
- 51:45respond to the ongoing measles outbreak, He added, the Washington
- 51:48Post opted to ignore the facts and cherrypick expert sources
- 51:52to rate a partisan hit piece. HHS did not immediately
- 51:56return a comment return a request for comment on the
- 51:59differences and the government's approached to the measles outbreak in
- 52:02twenty nineteen and twenty twenty five, the CDC has conducted
- 52:07a forecast for this measle's outbreak, according to two federal
- 52:10health officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for
- 52:12fear of retaliation, it was sent to HHS officials for approval,
- 52:17but it has not been publicly release. The official set
- 52:20there are more than six hundred cases in the United States.
- 52:23In additional cases in Mexico, the forecast suggests that one
- 52:26will occur for two to three months, which spread from
- 52:29the Mennonite community in Texas, the epicenter of the outbreak,
- 52:32to the general population. The worst case scenario envisions unchecked
- 52:37spread for six more months. As of Friday in Mexico
- 52:40at one hundred and twenty six confirmed cases, almost all
- 52:43in the state of Chihuahua, with no fatilities fatalities. Since
- 52:49Trump has withdrawn the United States from the World Health Organization,
- 52:52the CDC is not able to talk directly to other countries,
- 52:55delaying the flow of information to the U. S Public
- 52:57Health Agency, According to federal health officials who spoke on
- 53:01the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. As a
- 53:05result of the pause on external communications imposed by HHS
- 53:09in January, the CDC often has asked for permission to
- 53:13update websites or join telephone calls, except for emergency and
- 53:17outbreak responses. The CDC has deployed multiple teams to Texas
- 53:22and has been updating its measles website every week. A
- 53:25core group on the response has been working even while
- 53:27twenty four hundred people at the agency were laid off
- 53:30last week. Three staff members working on the measles outbreak
- 53:33in Texas and New Mexico were among those who received
- 53:36layoff notices, including one employee who was part of an
- 53:39outreach team to under vaccinated communities. According to two staff
- 53:43members who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear
- 53:46of retaliation, the Faberal government also is plying back billions
- 53:50of dollars in coronavirus funds that local and state health
- 53:52departments were using to help address outage responses. Outbreak responses. Normally,
- 53:58when a state invites the seat ABC's assistance, the agency
- 54:01help state and local health officials identify clusters, speed up testing,
- 54:05and pushed messaging out, said Andrew Pavia, a pediatric infectious
- 54:10disease expert at the University of Utah. But their ability
- 54:13to respond has been limited and their ability to get
- 54:15the message out has been severely hampered. Pavious CDC has
- 54:21been uncharacteristically quiet and slow to get out data, which
- 54:25suggests that they are being restricted by political actors. In
- 54:28twenty nineteen, then Health in Humans Services Secretary Alex Hazzar
- 54:33set on Fox News that some communities have been the
- 54:35subject of massed disinformation campaigns they need to get their
- 54:40kids vaccinated. That stands in sharp contrast to what Kennedy
- 54:44has said. He has claimed that the measles shot causes
- 54:47deaths every year, touted lifetime protection against measles after an infection,
- 54:52and directed the CDC to add language to its Measles
- 54:55Care Guide guidance endorsing the new use of vitamin A,
- 54:58which has been touted by anti vaccin activists as an
- 55:01alternative to vaccination. Covenant Children's Hospital in Lubbic texts which
- 55:06has treated many of the children hospitalized with measles during
- 55:09the outbreak, has reported patients with signs of vitamin A
- 55:12toxicity after their parents reported using the nutrient for treatment
- 55:16and prevention. Before those reports, Kennedy stated in an interview
- 55:20that the toxicity issue is no longer an issue. The
- 55:23current administration and RFK have created uncertainty and people are dying,
- 55:28said north Of Sanders Saunders, executive director of the Safe
- 55:32Communities Coalition, which advocates for vaccines. If we continue to
- 55:36let misinformation shape policy, it's just going to get worse.
- 55:40On Sunday, shortly after he called the MMR vaccine effective
- 55:43in stopping the spread of measles, Kennedy posted photos with
- 55:46the families of the two children who had died and
- 55:49two doctors who have treated Meazel's patients using aerosolized buddhisonide,
- 55:54a steroid treatment, and clarothromian, an antibiotic. The doctors, whom
- 55:59Can Kennedy called extraordinary healers, are prominent critics of vaccines,
- 56:04and the drugs Kennedy touted are not recommended measles treatments
- 56:07and can be harmle infectious disease doctors say, my jaw
- 56:12just dropped, and I said, Wow. Unbelievable that within the
- 56:14span of just a few hours he speaks out of
- 56:16both sides of his mouth, said Craig Spencer, an associate
- 56:20professor of public health and emergency medicine at Brown University.
- 56:24Ben Edwards, one of the doctors, has been critical of
- 56:27measles vaccines and has spread debunct claims about shots leading
- 56:30to autism. In an episode of his podcast, You're the Cure,
- 56:35Edwards described the outbreak as God's version of Measle's immunization.
- 56:39Everards did not return a request for comment. A handful
- 56:43of GOP senators, such as Cassidy, have strongly supported the
- 56:46need for vaccinations in this outbreak, but most have not
- 56:50directly addressed the government response or Kennedy's role in it.
- 56:54When asked last month on CNN whether he was comfortable
- 56:57with the Health Secretary's Measle's response under James Langford, Republican
- 57:01of Oklahoma, said to Kennedy's testimony when he went through
- 57:04the confirmation process and said Kennedy has been clear on
- 57:07his support of vaccines. Due to time constraints, we will
- 57:12need to end that item at this time. This concludes
- 57:15the reading of the Washington Post for today, April eighth.
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